Q1 2024 American Woodmark Corp Earnings Call
Good day and welcome to the American Widmark Corporation first fiscal quarter of 2024 conference call. Today's call is being recorded August 29 2023.
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Senior Vice President President and CFO . Please go ahead Sir.
Good afternoon, and welcome to American <unk> first fiscal quarter conference call.
Thank you for taking the time today to participate joining me is Scott Culbreth, President and CEO .
Scott will begin with a review of the quarter and I'll add additional details regarding our financial performance.
After our comments, we'll be happy to answer your questions.
Thank you Paul and thanks to everyone for joining us today for our first fiscal quarter earnings call.
Our teams delivered net sales of $498 3 million, representing a decline of eight 2% versus the prior year.
Within new construction, our business declined six 4% versus prior year.
Builders continue to buy down rates to drive sales and are shifting to a ready to move and build strategy.
Cancellations are holding and more historic norms, and the 14% to 16% range.
The long term fundamentals of the market remained strong and there continues to be a deficit in the number of homes built falling short of household formations.
We plan to continue to grow our share with new and existing customers.
Looking at remodel, which includes our home center and independent dealer and distributor businesses revenue declined nine 5% versus the prior year.
Within this our home center business was down 12, 8% versus the prior year.
Demand trends have slowed for a made to order in stock kitchen business due to lower in store traffic rates and consumers are choosing smaller size projects.
Our stock Bath business was positively impacted by a promo versus the prior year, but that was more than offset by inventory destocking efforts at our customers.
With regards to our dealer distributor business, we were up 0.1% versus the prior year.
Incoming order trends improved at the end of the prior fiscal quarter, allowing for stronger shipments in the first in the fiscal first quarter.
Our adjusted EBITDA increased 33% to $75 2 million or 15, 1% for the quarter.
Reported EPS was $2 28, and adjusted EPS was $2 78.
The improvement performance is due to pricing better matching inflationary impacts mix and improved efficiencies in the manufacturing platforms.
Our ops team continues to drive excellence in our plants.
Our cash balance was $89 $7 million at the end of the first fiscal quarter and the company has access to an additional $323 $2 million under its revolving credit facility.
Leverage was reduced to one nine times adjusted EBITDA in the company repurchased 328000 shares in the quarter.
Our outlook for fiscal year, 'twenty, four assuming market declines in both new construction and repair and model and our view has not changed but we do view repair and model demand is softer versus our original outlook was slightly better demand in new construction.
Our expectation for sales remains unchanged with a low double digit decline.
Due to the strong fiscal first quarter performance, our adjusted EBITDA expectation is increasing to a range of 225 million to $245 million.
Our team continues to execute against our strategy that has three main pillars growth.
Digital transformation and platform side.
Growth is benefiting from our summer launches included several new finishes and new door styles enhancements to our internal organization accessories within our made to order platform.
Digital transformation efforts over the last this quarter include the conclusion of our global design workshops for the next implementation area for the ERP and Monterey go lives.
Our CRM tool went live in August across through model channel and will be followed by the new construction channel in September .
Platform design work is accelerating with over 70% of the wall panels installed Monterrey, Mexico, and all of the wall panels or install in hamlet North Carolina.
We expect both sides to be on a roof in the next 60 days.
As a reminder, this expansion will deliver additional capacity, our stock kitchen, and Bath cabinetry product lines.
In closing I'm proud of what our team has accomplished in our first fiscal quarter and I look forward to their continued contributions during fiscal year 'twenty four.
I will now turn the call back over to Paul for additional details on the financial results for the quarter.
Thank you Scott.
Net sales for the first quarter of fiscal year, 2024, or $498 3 million, representing a decrease of eight 2% over the same period last year.
The combined home center, and independent dealer and distributor net sales decreased nine 5% for the first fiscal quarter with home centers, decreasing 12, 8% and dealer distributor increasing zero <unk>, 1%.
New construction net sales decreased six 4% in the first fiscal quarter compared to the prior year.
The company's gross profit margin for the first quarter of fiscal year 2024 was 22% of net sales versus 16% reported in the same quarter of last year representing.
Representing a 600 basis point improvement.
Gross margin in the first quarter of the current fiscal year was positively impacted by our pricing better matching inflationary impacts.
Operational improvements in our manufacturing facilities and stability in the supply chain.
Partially offset by the $4 $9 million tariff charge incurred within the quarter.
As we discussed in our previous earnings call. We are returning to our normal performance cycles, where our fiscal Q1 and Q4 are higher performance levels due to the seasonality of our industry.
Total operating expenses exclusive of any restructuring charges was 12% of net sales in the first quarter of fiscal year 2024, compared with 10, 3% of net sales for the same period in fiscal year 2023.
The ratio increased 170 basis points due to increases in our incentives profit sharing and digital spend.
Adjusted net income was $46 2 million or $2 78 per diluted share in the first quarter of fiscal year 2024 versus $28 4 million or $1 71 per diluted share last year.
Adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter of fiscal year, 2024 was $75 2 million or 15, 1% of net sales.
Compared to $56 5 million or 10, 4% of net sales for the same quarter of the prior fiscal year, representing a 470 basis point improvement year over year.
And matching the performance gain that we had in our fourth fiscal quarter of fiscal year 2023.
Commerce made a final determination in the plywood case and the company's two Vietnamese plywood suppliers were included within the quarter, we took a $4 $9 million pre tax charge.
We plan to vigorously appeal. The determination. However, this will take time to recover from.
For context, our last order with either supplier was placed in June of 2022.
The strong performance. This year is a direct result of the hard work and efforts. Our team has put into re establishing our operating efficiencies stabilizing our supply chain and controlled spending and the SG&A functions offset by.
Creases in our incentive compensation and profit sharing and the $4 $9 million pretax tariff charge.
Free cash flow totaled a positive $72 5 million for the current fiscal year compared to $32 7 million in the prior year.
The $39 8 million increase in free cash flows was primarily due to changes in our operating cash flows specifically higher net income and lower inventories.
Net leverage was 1.09 times adjusted EBITDA at the end of the first quarter.
First fiscal quarter of 2024, representing a $1 seven one times an improvement from the two eight times in the prior fiscal year.
As of July 31, 2023, the company had $89 7 million of cash and cash equivalents on hand, plus access to $323 2 million of additional availability under its revolving facility.
Under the current share repurchase program the company purchased $222 1 million or 328000 shares in the first quarter, representing about 2% of <unk> outstanding shares being retired.
The remaining share repurchase authorization is $52 9 million.
Our outlook for fiscal year 2024 remains unchanged from a net sales perspective, and we continue to expect low double digit declines in net sales versus fiscal year 2023 the.
The change in net sales is highly dependent upon overall industry economic growth trends material constraints labor impacts interest rates and consumer behaviors.
Our EBIT expectation for fiscal year, 2024 is being increased $20 million from our prior outlook to a range of 225 million to $245 million.
The increase in our expected outlook is due to the stabilized operational performance and the positive start we had to our fiscal year 2024.
Reiterating our outlook from the past quarter, we are still on track for starting a new operational locations in hamlet North Carolina, and Monterrey, Mexico This fiscal year.
This will negatively impact the results as we have as we will be incurring the operational expenses without offsetting full revenue performance of those locations.
The total impact of these charges is approximately $8 1 million in the full fiscal year of 2024.
Our capital allocation priorities for fiscal year 2024 remain unchanged.
We will first be focused on investing back into the business for the plant expansion in Monterrey, Mexico Hamlet, North Carolina, and continuing our path on our digital transformation with investments in our ERP and CRM solutions.
And lastly, investing in our automation efforts.
Next we will continue our share repurchasing as a reminder, we still have $52 $9 million remaining.
And lastly, we have our debt position at a leverage ratio, we wanted to achieve and will be will be de prioritizing paying down debt in fiscal year 2024.
In closing the business continues to build off the progress made through the past fiscal year.
We fully expect these improvements to read through the financials throughout this year.
This is a testament to the commitment hard work and efforts of our employees invest in the company to achieve our results and the direct alignment to the GDP strategy.
I am grateful for what the team has accomplished and thank all of our team members at American water Mark for their continued efforts they are the ones who make it happen daily.
This concludes our prepared remarks, we'll be happy to answer any questions you have at this time.
Thank you.
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Okay.
Our first question comes from Julio Romero with Sidoti <unk> Company. Please go ahead.
Thanks, and hey, good good afternoon.
Good afternoon.
Okay.
So I guess can you maybe start on the sales guide you talked about a little bit better new construction outlook, but a little bit.
Worse R&R outlook can.
Can you just talk about the repair and remodel side you mentioned.
Smaller sized projects.
Does that just mean youre selling less less volume per home remodel and maybe just talk about what's driving lowering store traffic rates.
Sure I'll take a couple of questions in there, let's first talk about our expectations as we think about calendar year 'twenty three I don't want to step into 'twenty four yet at this point, but certainly we're expecting to see sales decline in both channels.
Say the range for single family starts is has widened from high single digit to low double digits, depending on the source and Theyre looking and starts data that just came out January to July we averaged down 17% nationally with July up 10, and then remodel it's been trending in that mid single digit range home centers just rip.
<unk> in the last two weeks they shared an outlook of down mid single digits and.
And in their most recent quarter showed that our particular category was performing below the average store count.
They did attributed that to two factors one slowing traffic in the outlets and then also just smaller jobs. So we're taking all that into consideration as we look at our business and predict and projections going forward. We just think it's a reallocation between the two channels for us, but ultimately the same sales guide we have.
Last quarter.
Okay I appreciate the color there and then just wanted to ask about the free cash flow figure, which was pretty impressive for the first quarter.
What's what's your sense of inventory levels today should they continue to trend lower and just how do you think about free cash flow overall, the rest of the year, yes, Julio really we havent inventories kind of starting to get stabilized we still have room for improvement in that and we're not going to continue our efforts on those avenues free cash flow started off much stronger than we.
Paid in the first part of the year, primarily due to our outperformance, but also we have some delays still in regards to our manufacturing facility is coming online with the Oems not from a lack of desire to do these projects, which is timing of that but we will have a strong free cash flows for the year.
Really helpful. Thanks, a lot guys.
Yes. Thanks.
Our next question comes from Adam Baumgarten with Zelman. Please go ahead.
Hey, good afternoon.
I guess just on the input cost side I don't know if you had touched on that but just kind of what youre expecting for the balance of the fiscal year.
Yes on the inflation side at this point, we are seeing relief in hardwood lumber specifically, so we've seen declines there, but we still see upward pressure on other categories from a year over year standpoint, such as plywood paint hardware.
Certainly labor continues to be an increasing input costs, along with domestic transportation don't.
Don't see that changing materially between now and the end of the calendar year, even the really the end of our fiscal year.
Okay got it and then just on the softness in the.
On the R&R side, just kind of maybe talk about promotional activity and how that's trending.
Yes, we've seen a slight uptick in promo activity I think we message the same last quarter again, principally in the remodel channel so both.
Hello distributor space as well as the home centers, so slight uptick but nothing of concern.
So kind of back to normal is a good way to think about it.
I still would say it's below the historic norm.
Got it thank you.
Our next question comes from Steven Ramsey with Thompson Research Group. Please go ahead.
Hi, good evening.
On gross margins being strong again for the second consecutive quarter, you've called out the drivers there could you maybe walk through the order of magnitude on the drivers helping gross margin in the quarter and then maybe just order of magnitude how you see that evolving going through the rest of the year on those drivers.
Yes, Stephen Good question really we talked about pricing better matching inflation. So we really have caught up to that kind of commentary that's out there. So from our first from a magnitude perspective that is the first and foremost that's out there and you look at the other opportunities that are out there operationally efficiencies really matching better from what we did the stability of supply.
Chain those two for canon hands, so as our supply chain really stabilized it does allow our operations to get back to their normal operating cadences, which increases our overall plant efficiencies and those are the I would say kind of stack one and then two with those two being combined together.
And the only thing I would add to that is just on the pricing piece I would tell you that we've really lapped the increases that we put into the business a year ago. So we're not expecting additional gains.
And pricing to benefit year over year going forward.
Okay helpful. And then on the new facilities cost of about $8 million. This year is that a pressure that.
Steps down or goes away completely.
The markets normalize over the next year or so or.
Maybe kind of talk to the outlook on that.
Yes, it's basically the ramp up and start up cost.
Pain, a lease and you don't have it fully utilized so we will take that charge. This year has an impact and then our expectation is that we do start to better utilize and leverage both of those facilities going forward.
Yes.
Okay helpful. Thank you.
Your next question comes from Colin Vernon with.
Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Great quarter and thanks for taking my questions I just wanted to start with the guide back into some numbers back into 100 basis point increase in the EBITDA margin from your previous guide can you just give us some more detail around what's driving the increase in the margin guide is it all operational improvements are you seeing that or is it going be lower raw.
Zero cost just so just looking for some more color on the drivers of that.
Yes, it really take it back to Pauls comment a moment ago, certainly the the impact of our first quarter being better than what we had modeled and assumed when we gave that outlook a year ago would be a contributor and as he mentioned pricing was a key piece of that as well as how we're running the factories as we go forward, we expect to continue to run our factories well. So we think we've got.
Some upside for that and we've got that factored in.
The overall equation, we do expect softer demand as it is.
As an offset as we go forward, but when we take all of those considerations together, we're confident with the increase that we've put out there for a range.
Okay. That's helpful. And then in terms of the margin performance through the rest of the year any help in thinking about that.
<unk> of the year, and where you see EBITDA margins bottoming.
So I don't want to get into.
Quarterly outlook view on really quite frankly sales or EBITDA. That's why we give the full year view. The only thing I will comment on specifically is just recall that Q2, a year ago was by far and away our strongest sales comp in the prior year why was that we made considerable headway in reducing our backlog a year ago.
So just as a reminder, that'd be a bit of a tailwind as we think about this upcoming quarter and fiscal year 'twenty four.
Great. That's helpful color and then just the last one here for me.
You talked about some destocking at the home centers can you just talk about how much of a headwind that was for you guys in the quarter and where you guys think that that channel is from an inventory perspective.
After this quarter.
I don't have a specific amount that I'll call out for that column, but we believe there is an opportunity at both of our key accounts to see increases in in store inventory levels to help both.
The Bath kitchen, quite frankly, even storage category. So our teams work hand in hand, with our customers on driving that improvement in stock rates. So that we can assure that we get are in consumers product to be able to purchase.
Great. Thank you and good luck with the rest of the year.
Okay. Thank you. Thank you Colin.
Again, if you'd like to ask a question. Please press Star then one at this time. Our next question comes from Tim <unk> with Baird. Please go ahead.
Hey, guys good afternoon, Sean.
Maybe just my first question just on that one of your last answer there Scott did you say.
It at least had a tailwind did you mean, a headwind from inventory kind of your backlog conversion and in the prior year last year.
So we headed sorry to clarify that comment.
When you compare Q2 to a prior year prior year had the benefit of being able to chew through a pretty substantial amount of backlog. We will not have that this year. So it was a tailwind last year that doesn't repeat itself. This year, thus its a headwind sorry for not being clear.
Yes, I just wanted to make sure I heard that okay got that and then I guess within your builder business. I mean is there are you seeing any differences in terms of kind of order activity or just kind of.
The confidence that your builders have based on based on the size of the builder Im just trying to think I know you do a lot of work with the larger kind.
Builders, but how would you kind of compare and contrast, some of the larger builders to some of the smaller ones.
Yeah, all the all the statements you made are all accurate. So there is a wide range.
It's not only a factor of the builder, specifically, Tim but also the region. So we've seen some weakness out west.
As of late that was sort of the last area of the country to start to rotate down we expect that to come back. So it varies depending on the account, but I would say the larger builders are pretty bullish on their expectations now for the year as opposed to where they were three and six months ago.
Okay, Great and then would you think from a from a lead time perspective, or how we think about kind of lagging starts are kind of comparing to completion.
I know what the supply chain that had kind of got out of whack over the last couple of years, but would you kind of revert back to that kind of.
90 to 100 day lag relative to starts now.
About the new construction market.
Didn't go all the way back to that historic norm, we certainly saw the increase in <unk>.
Paul a quote that moving up I think roughly 30 to 60 days over the past couple of years, we certainly hear about that coming down you even see some of the builders report on that specifically that that time to.
To build has shrunk, but I don't think were back to historic norms, yet we get still pockets of labor challenges again market by market, that's creating some difficulty on builders being able to get the homes to completed status then you get weather things like out west and.
In Southern California that also creates a disruptions in that cycle time.
Okay. Okay very good very good thanks for the time guys. Good luck good luck. Thank.
Thank you Tim.
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Since there are no additional questions. This concludes our call. Thank you for taking the time to participate.
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