Q3 2023 Unum Group Earnings Call

Good morning, My name is Brianna and I will be your conference operator today.

I'd like to welcome you to the Unum group third quarter 'twenty twenty-three earnings results and conference call.

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I will now turn the call over to Matt Royal Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you Breanna.

Good morning, and welcome to the third quarter 2023 earnings call for Unum group or.

Our remarks today will include forward looking statements, which are statements that are not of current or historical fact, as a result actual results may differ materially from the results suggested by these forward looking statements.

Information concerning factors that could cause results to differ appears in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and are also located in the sections titled cautionary statement regarding forward looking statements and risk factors in our annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31 2002.

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Our SEC filings can be found in the investors section of our website at Unum Dot com.

I'll remind you that the statements in today's call speak only as of the date. They are made and we undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements.

A presentation of the most directly comparable GAAP measures and reconciliations of any non-GAAP financial measures, including included in todays presentation, including recast financials for the long duration targeted improvements accounting pronouncement can be found in our third quarter statistical supplement.

On our website in the investors section further all references to or which include Unum International sales in premium results are presented on a constant currency basis, yes.

Yesterday afternoon, Unum reported third quarter 2023, net income of $202 million or $1.02 per diluted common share a decrease from $510 3 million or $2 53 per diluted common share in the third quarter of 2022.

Net income for the third quarter of 2023 included the after tax amortization of the cost of reinsurance of $8 7 million or four cents per diluted common share. The after tax impact of noncompete contemporaneous reinsurance of $7 3 million or four cents per diluted common share.

Net after tax investment loss in the Companys investment portfolio of approximately $24 4 million or 13 cents per diluted common share and a net after tax reserve increase related to assumption updates of $139 3 million or <unk> 71 per diluted common share.

Net income for the third quarter of 2022 included the after tax amortization of the cost of reinsurance at $9 3 million or four cents per diluted common share.

The after tax impact of non contemporaneous reinsurance at $1 4 million or one cent per diluted common share.

Net after tax investment loss on the company's investment portfolio of $3 4 million or two cents per diluted common share and an after tax net reserve decrease related to the assumption updates of 190 to $2 1 million.

We're 95 cents per diluted common share.

Excluding these items after tax adjusted operating income in the third quarter of 2023 was $381 7 million or $1.94 per diluted common share an increase from $332 3 million or $1.65 per diluted common share in the year ago quarter.

Participating in this morning's conference call, our unions, President and CEO, Rick Mckenney Chief.

Chief Financial Officer, Steve Zabel, Chief operating Officer, Mike Simonds, as well as Tim Arnold who heads our colonial life and voluntary benefit lines and Mark <unk>, who heads our unum international business.

Now I'll turn to Rick for his comments.

Thank you Matt.

It's good to be here with all of you. This morning, and we appreciate you joining us.

Three quarters of the way through 2023, our year has shaped up to be a good one and we have a number of favorable trends that set up for a continuation of positivity.

Specifically for our business the macro picture remains favorable.

A strong employment atmosphere higher interest rates and a benign credit environment are all positives.

In this environment and it is also clear that our teams continued to execute against our plans to protect more people and deliver on our core business results.

They are highlighted by exceptional core premium growth strong sales levels solid margins and consistent performance from our investment portfolio, all resulting in record levels of capital.

The third quarter was also a milestone quarter in that we expect the premium deficiency reserve has been fully funded with our current quarter contribution.

As we said at our Investor day, completing this in 2023 will mean that we don't expect contributions required tabak, our long term care business for the next five years.

With ongoing strong capital generation from statutory earnings. This provides a capital picture going forward that provides ample flexibility.

It is where that confidence that we have increased our share repurchase authorization to $500 million for 2024.

The third quarter was also our first reserve assumption update filed under long duration targeted improvements.

While net impacts are muted, especially given that we cannot incorporate sharp the sharp increase in interest rates. This new accounting guidance introduces dynamics that will impact go forward quarterly GAAP earnings most notably in the closed block.

We will get into the GAAP assumption review for the drought or discussion, but the steps we have taken and continue to take to Derisk and strengthen the closed block have improved its position.

And as we have reiterated the GAAP accounting does not impact views on our capital and capital deployment plans.

In addition, we expect around $3 billion in statutory reserves over our best estimate at year end.

As we look to the details of the third quarter for our business. We had another very strong quarter of performance.

From the topline to the bottom line to capital generation, we continued to deliver on very strong trends of growing a growing customer base and profitability.

Starting with the top line in the third quarter earned premium growth exceeded 6%.

This is a level we have not seen in several years and included growth across all core operation products from solid sales as well as generally stable persistency that remained within our expectations.

We are pleased with the premium growth across the core segments, including six 5% in Unum U S over 12% and international and nearly 2% in colonial life.

Colonial life continues to see momentum building in sales and premium growth aided by success in agent recruiting and the positive customer reception, we're seeing for our gathered platform.

All in all we expect to meet our colonial life premium target in 2023 and continue to be optimistic for higher growth rates in the future.

Current and future premium growth is fueled by sales, which continued to grow on top of a strong prior year results.

Core operation sales grew nearly 2% highlighted by eight 5% in Unum U S and close to 5% of colonial life.

Underlying UK results were also good absent very high sales comparable in the year ago quarter.

We're also pleased with the robust year to date levels of growth. The U K business has brought to the franchise.

The grocery in our topline is amplified by the success, we've seen in key technology initiatives, such as HR connect and total leave where we continue to differentiate creating and maintaining deep connections with both existing and new employers and their employees, who value a high quality digital experience backed up by.

The knowledge of our team and the AI tools, we are equipping them with.

Our success is also a result of the breath of our team's strong execution, providing operational excellence and taking care of employees at time of need.

Employers are putting increasing value on our service and offerings.

Our discipline in pricing and customer engagement combined with our consistent execution translate to solid product returns as we continue to see attractive margins across our lines.

Consolidated ROE V was a very healthy 12, 7% and our before tax operating earnings and return on equity in our core operations were well above the top end of our most recent outlook ranges into.

In total after tax operating earnings of $381 7 million increased 15% from the same time last year.

Looking to our balance sheet, our investments continue to perform very well.

We have derisked, our balance sheet increased the credit quality profile of our portfolio and are well positioned for future market cycles.

In addition, we continue to build out our interest rate hedging program and sold a portion of our shorter duration bonds in the LTC portfolio extending duration for cash flow matching purposes.

The results across the board continue to support and strengthen our already robust capital position.

With statutory earnings over $500 million, our holding company liquidity ended at $1.2 billion and our RBC was 470% both at levels well north of our targets.

The capital generation provides tremendous flexibility to pursue our strategy and continue to return capital to shareholders through dividends and share repurchase.

The new board authorized share repurchase program I mentioned supports our greatly accelerated capital deployment strategy heading into next year.

Beginning in the first quarter of 'twenty 'twenty four we expect to begin repurchases repurchasing shares at a rate that we have not seen in many years.

The path we are on has us well positioned for earnings per share growth towards the upper end of our outlook and capital metrics well in excess of our targets.

Underpinning strong financial results is our purpose that is in our purpose that drives us to protect more people.

Meeting the needs and exceeding the expectations of our customers.

Our digital first and disciplined approach is capitalizing on the favorable trends in the operating environment as we advance our market leading positions.

Our formula for creating shareholder value is straightforward.

Grow our high margin businesses at an accelerated pace drive greater certainty around our closed block and effectively return capital to shareholders. We have made excellent progress on all three of these areas through the first nine months of 2023 now.

Now, let me turn it over Steve for details of the quarter, Steve Great. Thank you Rick and good morning, everyone. The third quarter was another very good quarter for the company as we saw the continuation of our strong first half operating performance, particularly across all of our disability product lines.

Ability results in the third quarter were highlighted by strong sales and underwriting performance across the board.

Including benefit ratios of 57.5% for Unum U S group disability 45, 4% for Unum U S individual disability and 67.4 per cent for Unum U K all below our long term expectations.

Sales were strong across most areas of the company, specifically with our various disability products performing very well.

Holiday sales grew one 8% across our core operations highlighted by 8.5% growth in Unum U S and 4.7% growth in colonial life, while the third quarter is a relatively small quarter for sales. We are pleased with the growth path that we are that we are on and our positioning for our biggest sales quarter of the <unk>.

Fourth quarter core operations premium grew at a healthy rate of six 1% in the third quarter as we continue to see tailwind from natural growth.

Natural growth continued to exceed our historic levels, but fell below the 5% Mark that we experienced for the past few quarters.

Persistency was generally improved from two key results and within our expectations.

Year to date core operations earned premium grew 4.9% just below the top end of our full year outlook of 3% to 5%, which we now expect to exceed.

As I review our results by segment I will describe our adjusted operating income results and benefit ratios, excluding the impacts from the annual GAAP reserve assumption updates in the third quarter of 2023 and 2022.

Starting with Unum U S. Adjusted operating income increased 27.4% to $357 $8 million in the third quarter of 2023 compared to $288 million in the third quarter of 2022 results finished above prior year, primarily due to favorable benefits experience.

And long term disability and higher premium income, partially offset by higher operating expenses.

The group disability line reported another robust quarter with adjusted operating income of $171 million compared to $137 million in the third quarter of 2022 with the increase driven by higher earned premium and a strong benefit ratio of 57, 5%.

The improvement from second quarter was driven by lower average claim size, coupled with continued strength in both recoveries and incidents.

Looking ahead to the fourth quarter, we expect the benefit ratio in the low 60% range.

Results for Unum U S group life in a D and D increased compared to the third quarter of last year with adjusted operating income of $52 million for the third quarter of 2023 compared to $28 $2 million in the same period a year ago.

Benefit ratio decreased to 73, 3% compared to 78% in the third quarter of 2022 due to lower COVID-19 related mortality and lower average claim size.

Adjusted operating income for the Unum us supplemental and voluntary lines in the third quarter was $135.7 million, an increase from $121 $9 million in the third quarter of 2022.

Good morning.

Brianna: My name is Brianna and I will be your conference operator today. I'd like to welcome you to the Unum Group third quarter 2023 earnings results and conference call. Please note that this call is being recorded. All participants are in listen only mode at this time. After the speakers remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad to withdraw your question, press star one again. Thank you.

The increase was primarily was driven predominantly by improved voluntary benefits results. The voluntary benefits loss ratio of 39, 1% was favorable to the prior year, primarily due to lower benefits in both the disability and life product lines.

The individual disability benefit ratio of 45, 4% was unfavorable to the prior year, mainly driven by higher average size of submitted claims, but still favorable to our expectations.

Matt Royal: I will now turn the call over to Matt Royal, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Thank you, Brianna.

Matt Royal: Good morning and welcome to the third quarter 2023 earnings call for Unum Group. Our remarks today will include ward looking statements, which are statements that are not of current or historical fact. As a result, actual results may differ materially from results suggested by these ward looking statements. Information concerning factors that could cause results differ appears in our filing with the securities and exchange commission and are also located in the sections titled cautionary statement regarding forward looking statements and risk factors in our annual report on form 10k for the fiscal year ended December 31st, 2022.

Turning to premium trends Unum U S. Resolved included strong year over year premium growth of 6.5% supported by a declining rate of natural growth.

Sales trends for Unum U S were also solid with sales increasing eight 5% year over year in the third quarter.

Persistency for total group of 89, 8% remained stable in the third quarter with similar stable results within most of our supplemental and voluntary lines.

Now moving to Unum International the segment continued to show strong trends and its underlying earnings power with adjusted operating income for the third quarter, increasing to $36 $8 million from $24 $9 million in the third quarter of 2022.

Matt Royal: Our SEC filings can be found in the investors section of our website at Unum.com. I remind you that the statements in today's call speak only as the date they are made, and we undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward looking statements. A presentation of the most directly comparable gap measures and reconciliations of any non-gap financial measures, including included in today's presentation, including recast financials for the long duration targeted improvements accounting pronouncement can be found in our third quarter's statistical supplement on our website in the investor section. Further, all references to or which include Unum International sales and premium results are presented on a constant currency basis.

Adjusted operating income for the Unum UK business improved in the third quarter to $28 4 million pounds compared to 23.3 million pounds in the third quarter of 2022 the.

The reported benefit ratio for Unum U K decreased to 67, 4% in the third quarter compared to 78, 7% in the same period a year ago.

As you May recall, a portion of our policies in the U K have an inflation writer, which are backed by inflation linked gilts the.

The inflation linked benefits are capped but the income Reis. We received from linked gilt is not which does increase earnings levels in periods of very high inflation. This inflation that benefit has dissipated from recent highs.

Matt Royal: Yesterday afternoon, Unum reported third quarter 2023 net income of 202 million or $1.02 per diluted common share a decrease from $510.3 million or $2.53 per diluted common share in the third quarter of 2022 net income for the third quarter of 2023 included the affertax memorization of the cost of reinsurance of 8.7 million or 4 cents per diluted common share. The affertax impact of non-contemporaneous reinsurance of 7.3 million or 4 cents per diluted common share a net after tax investment loss on the company's investment portfolio of approximately 24.4 million or 13 cents per diluted common share and a net after tax reserve increase related to assumption updates of 139.3 million or 71 cents per diluted common share.

Without this impact in the third quarter Unum U K adjusted operating income was in the mid 20 million pound range, reflecting another quarter of strong underlying claims performance.

So then looking ahead to the fourth quarter, we expect underlying earnings at a similar level with the inflation benefit at or maybe slightly below third quarter levels.

International premiums continue to show strong growth Unum UK generated premium growth of nine 9% on a year over year basis in the third quarter.

Our Poland Operation grew 27, 3% UK sales in the third quarter were $18 2 million pounds down from third quarter of 2022 sales of $30 9 million pounds, which did include a higher than normal amount of large case sales.

Unum, Poland sales in the third quarter were nearly twice the year ago period.

Matt Royal: Net income for the third quarter of 2022 included the affertax memorization the cost of reinsurance of 9.3 million or 4 cents per diluted common share. The affertax impact of non-contemporaneous reinsurance of 1.4 million or 1 cent per diluted common share a net after tax investment loss on the company's investment portfolio of 3.4 million or 2 cents per diluted common share. And an after tax net reserve decrease related to the assumption updates of 190 to 2.1 million or 95 cents per diluted common share, excluding these items after tax adjusted operating income in the third quarter of 2023 was 381.7 million or $1.94 per diluted common share, an increase from $332.3 million or $1.65 per diluted common share in the year ago quarter.

So then moving to colonial life adjusted operating income for this segment was $102 $9 million in the third quarter compared to $117 $9 million in the third quarter of 2020 to.

The decrease was driven primarily by higher DAC amortization due to increased lapses.

The benefit ratio of 49, 1% increased from 48, 7% in the year ago period, but did remain within our expectations.

Colonial premium income of $431 $2 million finished one 9% higher than the prior year, primarily driven by higher sales, partially offset by lower persistency compared to the year ago period.

Momentum has been building for colonial topline growth throughout the year and with a year to date premium growth just under 1%. We are positioned to meet our growth outlook for this segment of 1% to 3% for the full year.

Rick Mckenney: Participating in this morning's conference call are Unum's president and CEO Rick McKenney, Chief Financial Officer Steve Zabel, Chief Operating Officer Mike Simonds, as well as Tim Arnold, who heads our colonial life and voluntary benefit lines and Mark Till, who heads our Unum International Business. Now I'll turn to Rick for his comments. Thank you, Matt.

Sales in the third quarter of $121.3 million increased four 7% from the prior year with sales across all product lines.

So then in the closed block segment adjusted operating income excluding adjustments related to the closed block individual disability reinsurance transaction was $34 $2 million compared to $42 $1 million in the third quarter of 2022. The decline was driven primarily by higher long term care benefits experience.

Rick Mckenney: It's good to be out with all of you this morning and we appreciate you joining us. Three quarters of the way through 2023, our year has shaped up to be a good one and we have a number of favorable trends that set up for a continuation of positivity. Specifically for our business, the macro picture remains favorable. A strong employment atmosphere, higher interest rates, and a benign credit environment are all positives. In this environment it is also clear that our teams continue to execute against our plans to protect more people and deliver on our core business results.

And a lower long term care earnings trajectory post assumption update, which I will describe in more detail in a moment.

So quickly wrapping up my commentary on the quarter's financial results. The adjusted operating loss in the corporate segment was $41.5 million compared to a $49 $5 million loss in the third quarter of 2022, primarily driven by higher net investment income and lower expenses.

Rick Mckenney: They are highlighted by exceptional core premium growth, strong sales levels, solid margins, and consistent performance from our investment portfolio, all resulting in record levels of capital. The third quarter was also a milestone quarter in that we expect the premium deficiency reserve has been fully funded with our current quarter contribution. As we said at our investor day, completing this in 2023 will mean that we don't expect contributions required to back our law on-term care business for the next five years.

For the fourth quarter, we expect the segment's operating loss to remain generally consistent with this level.

So reflecting on these results as well as those from the first and second quarter. The first nine months of the year have been very strong and we continue to have confidence in our ability to grow our full year operating earnings per share towards the upper end of our expected range of 20% to 25% over historically reported results.

Now, let me dive into the assumption update and provide additional details on updates made to LTC, including the L. DTI dynamics that Rick had mentioned earlier.

Rick Mckenney: With ongoing strong capital generation from statutory earnings, this provides a capital picture going forward that provides ample flexibility. It is with that confidence that we have increased our Sherry Purchase Authorization to $500 million for 2024. The third quarter was also our first reserve assumption update filed under long duration target improvements. While net impacts are muted, especially given that we cannot incorporate sharp the sharp increase in interest rates, this new accounting guidance introduces dynamics that will impact go forward quarterly gap earnings, most notably in the closed block.

We completed our annual review assumption in the third quarter with a generally modest impact on financial results. This resulted in a net increase in reserves of $177 $2 million or approximately $139.3 million after tax.

Most products product lines saw changes this year's assumption updates were highlighted by favorable adjustments in our group disability line and for colonial life for group disability since last year's GAAP Reserve review continued high levels of performance and investment in our operations give us confidence the current recovery.

Rick Mckenney: We'll get into the gap assumption review for the throughout our discussion, but the steps we have taken and continue to take to de-risk and strengthen the closed block have improved its position. And as we have reiterated, the gap accounting does not impact views on our capital and capital deployment plans. In addition, we expect around $3 billion in statutory reserves over our best estimate at your end.

<unk> are sustainable leading to $121 million favorable adjustment before tax.

For colonial life favorable claims experience as well as lapse trends drove reserve releases of $80.7 million before tax.

In addition, with two prior updates to our group disability GAAP recovery assumption in both 2021 and 2022 and the continued favorability. We are seeing we made an update to our statutory reserve recovery assumption, which led led to a statutory reserve release of $205 million pre tax.

Rick Mckenney: As we look to the details of the third quarter for our business, we had another very strong quarter of performance. From the top line to the bottom line to capital generation, we continue to deliver on very strong trends of growing a growing customer base and profitability. Starting with the top line, in the third quarter, earned premium growth exceeded 6%. This is a level we have not seen in several years, and included growth across all poor operation products from solid sales, as well as generally stable persistency that remained within our expectations.

An incremental source of capital to further boost our strong financial position.

Moving to LTC, the GAAP assumption updates resulted in an increase in reserves of $368 $1 million before tax reform, reflecting strengthening of lapse and mortality assumption in the older age population within the active life reserve, which was partially offset by a refresh of our premium rate increase pre.

Rick Mckenney: We are pleased with the premium growth across the core segments, including 6.5% in Unum US, over 12% in international, and nearly 2% in colonial life. Colonial life continues to see momentum building in sales and premium growth, aided by success in agent recruiting, and the positive customer reception we're seeing for our gathered platform. All in all we expect to meet our colonial life premium target in 2023 and continue to be optimistic for higher growth rates in the future.

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It is important to note that under current GAAP, our LTC reserve update reflects locked in interest rate assumptions as of year end 2020, as such the L. T. C assumption updates do not reflect changes in interest rate margins since the L. D. T. I adoption date of January one 2021.

Rick Mckenney: Current and future premium growth is fueled by sales, which continue to grow on top of strong prior year results. Core operation sales grew nearly 2%, highlighted by 8.5% in Unum US, and close to 5% in colonial life. Underlying UK results were also good, absent very high sales comparable in the year ago quarter. We are also pleased with the robust year-to-date levels of growth the UK business has brought to the franchise. The growth seen in our top line is amplified by the success we've seen in key technology initiatives such as HR Connects and Total Leave, where we continue to differentiate, creating and maintaining deep connections with both existing and new employers and their employees, who value a high quality digital experience backed up by the knowledge of our team and the AI tools we are equipping them with.

Thus unlike prior years changes in interest margins cannot offset changes in liability assumptions for reporting financial reporting purposes. As an example, using a 4.5% 30 year treasury yield as our long term expectation for new money in setting reserving levels. It would have nearly all.

Set the entire LTC assumption update impact.

Furthermore, consideration of today's long term rates would indicate additional margins.

While interest margin is no longer reflected in our GAAP reserve analysis, we will still see the benefit of higher earned portfolio yields compared to the locked in discount rates as interest margins and earnings over the life of the block.

The assumption updates also impacted both the future lifetime loss ratio expectation or net premium ratio and a buffering effects of periodic experienced volatility.

Rick Mckenney: Our success is also a result of the breadth of our team's strong execution, providing operational excellence, and taking care of employees at time of need. Employers are putting increasing value on our service and offerings. Our discipline and pricing and customer engagement combined with our consistent execution translate to solid product returns as we continue to see attractive margins across our lines. Consolidated ROE was a very healthy 12.7% and our before tax operating earnings and return on equity in our core operations were well above the top end of our most recent outlook ranges.

The new reserve basis includes an increase of future expected benefits.

As a result of the net premium ratio or MTR for the block is now in the low to mid Ninety's. In addition, we will experience less quarterly buffering driving increased quarterly volatility.

These dynamics can be seen in our third quarter results.

The quarterly LTC interest adjusted loss ratio was 105, 3% compared to the new net premium ratio in the low to mid nineties. This elevated interest adjusted loss ratio was due to claims incidents remaining at a higher level higher than expected levels, but were favorable compared to the second quarter.

Rick Mckenney: In total, after tax operating earnings of 381.7 million increased 15% from the same time last year. Looking to our balance sheet, our investments continue to perform very well. We have de-risked our balance sheet, increased the credit quality profile over our portfolio, and our well-position for future market cycles. In addition, we continue to build out our interest rate hedging program and sold a portion of our shorter duration bonds in the LTC portfolio, extending duration for cash flow matching purposes.

While the overall claims experienced in this period was improved from the second quarter less of the unfavorable impact was buffered in the third quarter.

Given the increase in MPR to the low to mid nineties, we expect GAAP earnings in the closed block to be in the $30 million to $40 million range per quarter going forward compared to prior expectations of $45 million to $55 million.

To be clear this assumption update does not impact our plan for capital deployment or lower our expectations of significant margins between our statutory reserves and best estimate of approximately $3 billion at year end.

Rick Mckenney: The results across the board continue to support and strengthen our already robust capital position with statutory earnings over $500 million. Our holding company liquidity ended at $1.2 billion and our RBC was 470%. Both at levels well north of our targets. The capital generation provides tremendous flexibility to pursue our strategy and continue to return capital to shareholders through dividends and sharey purchase. The new board authorized sharey purchase program I mentioned supports our greatly accelerated capital deployment strategy heading into next year.

We remain on track to fully recognize the premium deficiency reserve by year end without contributing an additional capital into fair wind in the fourth quarter as we benefited from actions taken to Derisk the block in today's higher rate environment.

Then from a subsidiary perspective first Unum holds a greater proportion of reserves impacted by the underlying assumption updates as a result, we do expect an increase to our asset adequacy adequacy reserve in that entity in the fourth quarter. Therefore, we expect to reallocate $2 million to $300 million of expected capital.

Rick Mckenney: Beginning in the first quarter of 2024, we expect to begin repurchasing shares at a rate that we have not seen in many years. The path we are on has us well positioned for earnings per share growth towards the upper end of our outlook and capital metrics well in excess of our targets.

Contributions from fair win two first unum for the full year 2023.

Importantly, while this changes of the geography of our planned capital contributions it does not impact our overall capital deployment plans of contributing $8 million to $900 million to L. T. C for the full year followed by no further contributions as we detailed at our outlook meeting in February.

Rick Mckenney: Underpinning strong financial results is in our purpose that drives us to protect more people, meeting the needs and exceeding the expectations of our customers. Our digital first and disciplined approach is capitalizing on the favorable trends in the operating environment as we advance our market leading positions. Our formula for creating shareholder value is straight forward, grow our high margin businesses and an accelerate pace, drive greater certainty around our closed block and effectively return capital to shareholders. We have made excellent progress on all three of these areas through the first nine months of 2023.

Moving now to investments we continue to see good.

Good environment for new money yields and risk management.

Purchases made in the quarter were yet again at levels above our own portfolio yield, which was 4.45% for the first nine months of 2023.

In addition, our interest rate hedge program for LTC is performing as expected since inception of the program last year. We've now entered into nearly $2 $6 billion of treasury forwards, including hedges entered into since quarter end.

Steve Zabel: Now let me turn it over Steve for details of the quarter Steve. Great, thank you Rick and good morning everyone. The third quarter was another very good quarter for the company as we saw the continuation of our strong first half operating performance, particularly across all of our disability product lines. Disability results in the third quarter were highlighted by strong sales and underwriting performance across the board, including benefit ratios of 57.5% for Unum US group disability.

Steve Zabel: 45.4% for Unum US individual disability and 67.4% for Unum UK all below our long term expectations. Sales were strong across most areas of the company, specifically with our various disability products performing very well and solidated sales grew 1.8% across our core operations, highlighted by 8.5% growth in Unum US and 4.7% growth in colonial life. While the third quarters are relatively small quarter for sales, we are pleased with the growth path that we are on and are positioning for our biggest sales quarter the fourth quarter.

Given favorable market conditions, we have expanded the horizon of the hedged cash flows from five to seven years.

In addition, we took the opportunity to further derisk the balance sheet by selling over $700 million of shorter duration bonds in our LTC portfolio and reinvesting these proceeds in higher credit quality higher yielding and longer duration bonds that better match our liability profile.

While this was capital neutral it did generate after tax GAAP realized losses of $35 million in the quarter.

While these are prudent risk management and economic decisions. The benefits are not reflected in the current GAAP treatment of interest margins.

So to round out the investment discussion Miss miscellaneous investment income increased in the third quarter to $24 million compared to $18 million a year ago as alternative investment income increased.

Income from our aura, our alternative invested assets was $22 $6 million within our longer term expectation of $20 million to $25 million.

Steve Zabel: Core operations premium grew at a healthy rate of 6.1% in the third quarter as we continue to see tailwinds for natural growth. Natural growth continued to exceed our historic levels, but fell below the 5% mark that we experienced for the past few quarters. Persistency was generally improved from two few results and within our expectations. Year-to-date core operations earned premium grew 4.9%, just below the top end of our full year outlook of 3-5%, which we now expect to exceed.

So I'll wrap up my commentary with an update of our capital position, which remains very strong the weighted average risk based capital ratio for our traditional U S. Insurance companies is approximately 470% and holding company liquidity remains robust at $1.2 billion cap.

Capital metrics again benefited in the third quarter from the strong statutory results with statutory after tax operating income of $532 $7 million, which includes the impact from the L. T D. Statutory reserve release described earlier.

Steve Zabel: As I review our results by segment, I will describe our adjusted operating income results and benefit ratios excluding the impacts from the annual gap reserve of function updates in the third quarter of 2023 and 2022. Starting with Unum US, adjusted operating income increased 27.4% to $357.8 million in the third quarter of 2023 compared to $280.8 million in the third quarter of 2022. Results finished above prior year primarily due to favorable benefits experience in long-term disability and higher premium income partially offset by higher operating expenses.

This brings year to date statutory after tax operating income to $1.1 billion, which will enhance dividend capacity in 2024.

Our strong cash generation model drives our ability to return capital to shareholders and in the third quarter, we paid $71.4 million in common stock dividends and repurchased 1.5 million shares at a total cost of $74.8 million, an increase to the pace of share repurchase from the first half of the year.

Steve Zabel: The group disability line reported another robust quarter with adjusted operating income of $170.1 million compared to $130.7 million in the third quarter of 2022. With the increased driven by higher earned premium and a strong benefit ratio of 57.5%. The improvement from second quarter was driven by lower average claim size, coupled with continued strength in both recoveries and incidents. Looking ahead to the fourth quarter, we expect a benefit ratio in a low 60 percent range.

As Rick mentioned, the pace will increase again in 2024 as our board recently authorized a new share repurchase program of $500 million beginning on January one 2024.

As planned we contributed $200 million of capital and a fair one in the third quarter, bringing the full year total to $600 million. Our expectation is that this amount is sufficient to fully recognize the premium deficiency reserve in 2023 without additional capital contributions give.

Given the impact of our LTC best estimate assumption changes on the first unit block as described earlier, we plan to contribute $200 million to $300 million of capital to first unum.

Steve Zabel: Results for Unum US Group Life and AD&D increase compared to the third quarter of last year, with adjusted operating income of $52 million for the third quarter of 2023 compared to $28.2 million in the same period a year ago. The benefit ratio decreased to 73.3 percent compared to 78 percent in the third quarter of 2022 due to lower COVID-related mortality and lower average claims size. Adjusted operating income for the Unum US supplemental and voluntary lines in the third quarter was $135.7 million, an increase from $121.9 million in the third quarter of 2022.

In total our 2023 capital contributions to support LTC will total $800 million to $900 million consistent with our expectations coming into the year.

Full recognition of the premium deficiency reserve is expected to result in significant excess margin of approximately $3 billion over our updated best estimate for the entire block and supports our plans have not contributed capital for LTC in the coming years.

Our focus in 2023 has been completing the accelerating accelerated recognition of the PDR as outlined at our February outlook meeting considering our position today with a strong year to date earnings robust capital position and clarity on our premium deficiency reserve balance we're pleased with our ability to put the PDR funding bill.

Steve Zabel: The increase with primary was driven predominantly by an improved voluntary benefits results. The voluntary benefits loss ratio of 39.1 percent was favorable to the prior year primarily due to lower benefits in both the disability and life product points. The individual disability benefit ratio of 45.4 percent was unfavorable to the prior year mainly driven by higher average size of submitted claims, but still favorable to our expectations. For endopremium trends, Unum US results included strong year-over-year premium growth of 6.5 percent supported by a declining rate of natural growth.

Hind us and to increase free cash flow available for deployment in 2024 and beyond.

Now I'll turn the call back to Rick for his closing comments and I look forward to your questions. Thank.

Thank you Steve.

So there's plenty to discuss this quarter, but I would like to reiterate before we get to questions that in total the strength of the franchise the strength of the balance sheet and the strength of the capital generation provides tremendous opportunity as we look to the last quarter and into 2024.

Steve Zabel: Sales trends for Unum US were also solid with failed increasing 8.5 percent year-over-year in the third quarter. Persistency for total group of 89.8 percent remained stable in the third quarter with similar stable results within most of our supplemental and voluntary lines. Now moving to Unum International, the segment continued to show strong trends in its underlying earnings power with adjusted operating income for the third quarter increasing the $36.8 million from $24.9 million in the third quarter of 2022.

So the team is here to respond to your questions I'll ask brianna to begin the Q&A session.

Yeah.

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Our first question comes from Sami <unk> with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Thanks. Good morning, just wanted to start on LTC can you just talk a little bit more about what changed in terms of the assumptions and how your new assumptions compare to what youre using on a statutory basis.

Steve Zabel: Adjusted operating income for the Unum UK business improved in the third quarter to 28.4 million pounds compared to 23.3 million pounds in the third quarter of 2022. The reported benefit ratio for Unum UK decreased to 67.4 percent in the third quarter compared to 78.7 percent in the same period a year ago. As you may recall, portion of our policies in the U.K, have an inflation rider which are backed by inflation link guilds.

Yes. This is Steve I can take that question. So as I said in my comments really the vast majority of the financial impact of those changes it was related to the strengthening of the assumption for both mortality and lapse specifically for the older age population. It also was more focused to on those policies with the <unk>.

Richard benefits and so what we've seen over the past few years.

Steve Zabel: The inflation link benefits are capped, but the income we receive from link guilds is not, which does increase earnings levels in periods of very high inflation. This inflation benefit has dissipated from recent highs. Without this impact in the third quarter, Unum UK adjusted operating income within the mid 20 million pound range reflecting another quarter of strong underlying claims performance. So then looking ahead to the fourth quarter, we expect underlying earnings at a similar level with the inflation benefit at or maybe slightly below third quarter levels.

Is that that that experience set for those older age policyholders, we practically doubled the data that we have over the past several years. The other thing that we had to work through obviously was the impact of Covid and as Youll recall, we had a lot of volatility in our experience during the COVID-19 years, both in claim of mortality.

As well as in incidents, but what we did see were.

Trends in what we saw in our active life terminations, we wanted to really wait until we got to stability over that period of volatility.

And then we also looked at some outside industry information and between that really those three dynamics. We thought that this was the right time to go ahead and adjust those assumptions. So that those are really the major kind of benefit assumptions that were changed and then we also updated our rate increase program as part of this assumption change.

Steve Zabel: International premiums continue to show strong growth. Unum UK generated premium growth of 9.9 percent on a year over your basis in the third quarter, while our Poland operation grew 27.3 percent. UK sales in the third quarter were 18.2 million pounds down from third quarter 2022 sales of 30.9 million pounds, which did include a higher than normal amount of large case sales. Paul and Sales in the Third Quarter were nearly twice the year ago period.

And then how do those compare to what you have on what you are using under stat.

Yeah, it's kind of hard to compare but I think a good indicator of that is our view of the premium deficiency reserve and really the the needs of the recognition there really did not change as we went through the <unk>.

Steve Zabel: So then moving to Colonial Life, adjusted operating income for this segment was $102.9 million in the Third Quarter compared to $117.9 million in the Third Quarter of 2022. The decrease was driven primarily by a higher DAC amortization due to increased lapses. The benefit ratio of 49.1% increased from 48.7% in the year ago period but did remain within our expectations. Colonial premium income of $431.2 million finished 1.9% higher than the prior year primarily driven by higher sales partially offset by lower persistency compared to the year ago period.

The GAAP assumption review.

Got it and then I guess.

As we think about first unum in that two to 300 million contribution.

I guess I was a little surprised is going into <unk>, because you guys have done so much hedging there.

So can you just kind of maybe explain that a little bit more what's causing that increase within first unum.

Yeah, I'd, probably just the way to think about it is our first unum block tends to be mostly individual policyholders. They are higher richer benefits and so when we looked at our assumption review and we had to overlay that across the different blocks. It did add a little bit of an outsized impact on those policy.

Steve Zabel: Momentum has been building for Colonial top line growth throughout the year and with the year-to-date premium growth just under 1%, we are positioned to meet our growth outlook for the segment of 1 to 3% for the full year. Sales in the Third Quarter of $121.3 million increased 4.7% from the prior year with sales across all product lines.

The holders within first Unum, we do continue to be very pleased with our hedge program within the first Unum block. It provides a really good protection against downside scenarios, we've seen that play out as we've gone through our asset adequacy review, but but given that these new assumptions. We do think we're going to need to strengthen the asset adequacy reserve going into year end and.

Steve Zabel: So then in the close block segment, adjusted operating income, excluding adjustments related to the close block, individual disability reinsurance transaction, with $34.2 million compared to $42.1 million in the Third Quarter of 2022. The decline was driven primarily by higher long-term care benefits experience and a lower long-term care earnings trajectory, post-assumption update which I will describe in more detail in a moment. So quickly wrapping up my commentary on the quarter's financial results, the adjusted operating loss in the corporate segment with $41.5 million compared to a $49.5 million loss in the Third Quarter of 2022, primarily driven by higher net investment income and lower expenses.

So we are going to put a little bit more capital down into that legal entity.

Okay got it thanks.

Thanks, Denise Thanks Denise.

Our next question comes from Tom Gallagher with Evercore ISI. Your line is open.

Thanks, a couple more on long term care, Steve how much was the offset on <unk>.

Increased future rate assumptions that you just referenced.

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Yeah. The answer was we made an adjustment to our rate increase assumption of about $900 million and just to kind of put that into context, we've achieved over $4 billion of rate increase approvals over the years. So we think that's a very reasonable amount, we clearly have great relationships with regulators.

Steve Zabel: For the fourth quarter, we expect the segments operating loss to remain generally consistent with this level. So reflecting on these results, as well as those from the first and second quarter, the first 9 months of the year have been very strong. And we continue to have confidence in our ability to grow our full year operating earnings per share towards the upper end of our expected range of 20 to 25% over historically reported results.

And we've had quite a bit of success over the years. So I feel very confident about our ability to execute on that going forward.

So you're assuming an incremental $900 million future rate increases versus your prior okay.

Gotcha.

And the next question is just a portion of your long term care block.

Steve Zabel: Now, let me dive into the assumption update and provide additional details on updates made to LTC, including the LDPI dynamics that Rick did mention earlier. We completed our annual review assumption in the third quarter with a generally modest impact on financial results. There's resulted in an net increase in reserves of $177.2 million or approximately $139.3 million after tax. While most product lines thought changes, this year's assumption updates were highlighted by favorable adjustments in our group disability line and for colonial life.

That gets recognized immediately versus the higher.

In terms of higher loss ratio cohort versus the better part of the block that gets smoothed what does that mix look like.

Yeah, the way to think about it is that you go through the the liability assumption review and kind of reset your thinking about the needed economic reserve there and then you do need to let it go through the mechanics of L. D T I and so what's going to happen. There is there is going to be a porsche.

<unk> of it that really gets buffered away into the reserve amount theres going be a portion that youre going to recognize in the current period now that portion that gets buffered is going to impact your net premium ratio, which is an indicator of your go forward loss ratio and so if you kind of break that down to the numbers, we had about 900 million.

Steve Zabel: For group disability, since last year's gap reserve review continued high levels of performance and investment in our operations, give us confidence the current recovery trends are sustainable, leading to $121 million favorable adjustment before tax. Tax for Colonial Life, Favourable claims experience as well as lapse trends drove reserve releases of $80.7 million before tax. In addition, with two prior updates to our group disability gap recovery assumption in both 2021 and 2022 and the continued favorability we're seeing, we made an update to our statutory reserve recovery assumption, which led to a statutory reserve release of $205 million pre-tax, an incremental source of capital that further boosts our strong financial position.

Net of liability change or some impact of assumption change, we buffered about $500 million of that into the reserve that resulted in about a 7% increase in the net premium ratio, which sets going to impact. Our go forward earnings and that's why we've kind of re forecast.

What the margins are going to look like on LTC, and then about 400 million or the exact number is 368 million fell through to the bottom line and was reported in third quarter earnings I think the other thing that's important about the dynamic series, we implement these GAAP assumption changes as of the beginning of the quarter. So it was really effective.

Steve Zabel: Moving to LTC, the gap assumption updates resulted in an increase in reserves of $368.1 million before tax, reflecting strengthening of lapse and mortality function in the older age population within the active life reserve, which was partially offset by a refresh of our premium rate increase program. It is important to note that under current gap, our LTC reserve update reflects locked in interest rate assumptions as of year and 2020. As such, the LTC assumption updates do not reflect changes in interest rate margins since the LDPI adoption date of January 1, 2021.

Seven one and so that go forward expectation of the loss ratio was really in effect during the third quarter. So when you think about what our reported loss ratio was in the third quarter. The starting point was really that new net premium ratio, which was in the low to mid nineties.

Got you that's really helpful. If I can sneak in one more.

If rates were to stay where they are now into 2025 at the long end of the curve how much and I think now you have a 1 billion six PDR.

Keeping score correctly of the 1 billion sex of the 1 billion six how much would become redundant would that be all of it or most of it and is it fair to assume that even if it technically is redundant that you'd probably leave it in fair wind.

Steve Zabel: Thus, unlike prior years, changes in interest margins cannot offset changes in liability assumptions for reporting financial reporting purposes. As an example, using a 4.5% 30-year treasury yield as our long-term expectation for new money in setting reserving levels, it would have nearly offset the entire LTC function update impact. Furthermore, consideration of today's long-term rates would indicate additional margins. While interest margin is no longer reflected in our gap reserve analysis, we will still see the benefit of higher earn portfolio yields compared to the locked in discount rates as interest margins in earnings over the life of the block.

Considering your ultimate goal of risk transfer.

Yes, Tom It's correct, let me Yeah, let me address that when you talked about where interest rates are today and take your background, the PDR and the dynamics around interest rates as we've talked before and its a three year look back rolling average and so spot rates. Today are clearly have moved up moved up even more throughout the year.

So the money that we've put in there today is predicated on that three months or three year rolling average as it rolls to spot rates if interest rates stay where they are a significant amount of those reserves become redundant over time. So it's not going to happen, it's going to happen on that same three year trajectory that those reserves would in that scenario turn into capital.

Steve Zabel: The assumption update also impacted both the future lifetime loss ratio expectation or net premium ratio and the buffering effects of periodic experience volatility. The new reserve basis includes an increase of future expected benefits. As a result, the net premium ratio or MPR for the block is now in the low to mid-90s. In addition, we will experience less quarterly buffering driving increased quarterly volatility. These dynamics can be seen in our third quarter results.

Got that capital down and we think that although we have the ability to move it around to other parts of the entity for it for other purposes, we would like to keep a lot of it there to make sure that we can live up to our five year no more capital going into our our fairway and entity and I think that's that's the clear message there. So although we have the ability.

Steve Zabel: The quarterly LTC interest adjusted loss ratio was 105.3%, compared to the new net premium ratio in the low to mid-90s. This elevated interest adjusted loss ratio was due to claims incidents remaining at higher level, higher than expected levels, but were favorable compared to the second quarter. While the overall claims experience in this period was improved from the second quarter, less of the unfavorable impact was buffered in the third quarter. Given the increase in MPR to the low to mid-90s, we expect gap earnings in the closed block to be in the 30 to 40 million range per quarter going forward compared to prior expectations of 45 to 55 million dollars, to be clear, this assumption update does not impact our plan for capital deployment or lower our expectations of significant margins between our statutory reserves and best estimate of approximately $3 billion the year end.

Two.

Giving surety to investors around not needing to put more money behind long term care. We think has shareholder value. So that's that's our intent going forward.

That's helpful. Thanks, Rick.

Our next question comes from Joel Horowitz with Dowling and partners. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning.

Another one on OTC can you just talk about the opportunities for further portfolio duration extension in any way to quantify the benefit from that in the right hedges that you put on.

Yes. This is Steve yeah that probably the point that I would make around that is just where we're really happy about both the hedge program that we've put in place we're up to about $2 6 billion of notional amount on that hedge program, we've already seen the benefit but it also just protects us from some of those downside scenarios, we took the opportunity to reposition.

Part of the LTC portfolio selling out of some short duration bonds and being able to increase both duration credit quality and frankly, the annual earnings coming off of that block.

Steve Zabel: We remain on track to fully recognize a premium deficiency reserved by year end without contributing additional capital into fair wind in the fourth quarter as we have benefited from actions taken to de-risk the block in today's higher rate environment. And from a subsidiary perspective, first Unum holds a greater proportion of reserves impacted by the underlying assumption updates. As a result, we do expect an increase to our affidatic, adequacy reserve in that entity in the fourth quarter.

We will continue to roll that program forward from a hedging perspective as I mentioned before it's really a ladders in based on quarterly cash flows. So we will continue as those hedges mature quarter by quarter. We will continue to extend that so we think that will be really good protection in the future. I also mentioned in my my script that we've kind of extend.

In that time horizon for those cash flows from five to seven years and so we took the opportunity to extend as far as scenarios and that sort of thing you know, we'll have a guidance call coming up here in the next several months to talk about 2024 in our Investor Day last year, we gave some scenarios, which really gave you an idea of what.

Steve Zabel: Therefore, we expect to reallocate to 300 million of expected capital contributions from fair wind to first Unum for the full year 2023. Importantly, while this changes with the geography of our plan capital contributions, it does not impact our overall capital deployment plans of contributing $8 to $900 million to LTC for the full year, followed by no further contributions as we detailed at our outlook meeting in February. Moving now to investments, we continue to see a good environment for new money yields and risk management.

The downside protection as I think that's the best way to articulate it and so we'll probably just wait until we refresh that going into next year and give you a little bit more guidance just how much protection, we do have against the PDR again, given that the actions that we've taken.

Steve Zabel: Purchases made in the quarter were yet again at levels above our own portfolio yield, which is 4.45% for the first nine months of 2023. In addition, our interest rate hedge program for LTC is performing as expected. Since inception of the program last year, we've now entered into nearly $2.6 billion of Treasury forward, including hedges entered into since quarter-end. Given favorable market conditions, we've expanded the horizon of the hedged cash flows from five to seven years.

And Joel I think you were asking a little bit about the repositioning trade that we did as well and so the team did a really nice job looking at cash flows throughout the cycle and thinking about how we put those cash flows in the REIT space. That's what that trade was as well that he did in the quarter and so is there more opportunity to do that we were feeling pretty good about the cash flow match not just in general as we're talking about the hedging but I'll.

So as we look at specific durations throughout the curve and so Martha Lieber, Steve and the team did a really nice job of positioning us for that.

Okay. That's helpful.

And then shifting to group disability can you just provide an update on expectations moving forward and in terms of pricing for one one how is it being affected by the continued favorable experience that youre seeing.

Steve Zabel: In addition, we took the opportunity to further de-risk the balance sheet by selling over 700 million of shorter duration bonds in our LTC portfolio and reinvesting these proceeds in higher credit quality, higher yielding and longer duration bonds that better match our liability profile. While this was capital neutral, it did generate aftertax gap realized losses of $35 million in the quarter. While these are prudent risk management and economic decisions, the benefits are not reflected in the current gap treatment of interest margins.

Okay.

Yes, thanks, and good morning Joel.

You're right we continue to.

Feel good about the group disability benefit ratio of 57 and a half this quarter continues to benefit I think from a favorable macro environment like Rick highlighted paid incidents has been favorable recoveries both in count and average size continue to be strong for us and I do think that.

The actuarial underwriting teams the renewal delivery over the last couple of years through sales and client management and ultimately our benefits team is a big contributor to.

Steve Zabel: So to round out the investment discussion, miscellaneous investment income increased in the third quarter to $24 million compared to $18 million a year ago as alternative investment income increased. Income from our alternative invested assets was $22.6 million within our longer term expectation of $20 to $25 million. So I'll wrap up my commentary with an update of our capital position, which remains very strong. The weighted average risk-based capital ratio for our traditional US insurance companies is approximately 470% and holding company liquidity remains robust at $1.2 million.

To that end as you said certainly that favorable experience.

Will and has begun to flow into renewal conversation as we sit here having worked through the large employer inventory for January 1st effective kind of working down into the middle and smaller end of the market, we feel really actually quite good about the persistency levels that we're achieving.

Like we've talked about over time, we would expect a gradual increase back towards longer term targets for our group disability loss ratio.

Steve Zabel: Capital metrics again benefited in the third quarter from the strong statutory results with statutory aftertax operating income of $532.7 million, which includes the impact from the LPD statutory reserve release described earlier. This brings year-to-date statutory aftertax operation income to $1.1 billion, which will enhance dividend capacity in 2024. Our strong cash generation model drives our ability to return capital to shareholders, and in the third quarter we paid 71.4 million dollars in common stock dividends and repurchased 1.5 million shares at a total cost of 74.8 million dollars. An increase to the pace of share repurchase from the first half of the year.

But again the dynamics are such that we would see that happening.

Pretty gradually over the coming six 810 quarters and feel like this high 50% low C C.

Percentage or is it pretty good target here for the short to midterm.

Okay. Thank you.

Thanks, Joe Thanks Joel.

Our next question comes from Ryan Krueger with <unk>. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning.

Unfortunately, one more question on long term care I guess in terms of the capital contribution there'll be the same for the year, but the $2 million to $300 million of birth.

What was the what was the cause for what drove the offset.

Steve Zabel: As Rick mentioned, the pace will increase again in 2024 as our board recently authorized a new share repurchase program of 500 million dollars beginning on January 1, 2024. As planned, we contributed 200 million dollars of capital in the fair when in the third quarter bring in the full year total to 600 million dollars. Our expectation is that this amount is sufficient to fully recognize the premium deficiency reserve in 2023 without additional capital contributions.

In terms of lower capital contributions to <unk>.

Great and of higher rates or is there something out there.

Yeah.

Basically Ryan it is the greater of higher rates that that's the main thing driving and it's really the combination of that but also the hedging program and some of the Derisking that we did in the portfolio folio that that gives us downside protection the future, but it also does give us a little bit of benefit it kind of in the current calculation. So I'd say, it's a combination of those two things that higher rate.

Steve Zabel: Given the impact of our LTP best estimate assumption changes on the first Unum block as described earlier, we plan to contribute 200 to 300 million dollars of capital to first Unum. In total, our 2023 capital contributions to support LTC will total 800 to 900 million dollars consistent with our expectations coming into the year. Full recognition of the premium deficiency reserve is expected to resolve in significant excess margin. We plan to provide $1 million of approximately $3 billion over our updated best estimate for the entire block and supports our plans of not contributing capital for LTC in the coming years.

Bleeding in to kind of the new money assumption, we're able to use and also the derisking.

Okay makes sense.

And then.

In terms of the four Q sales pipeline can you give any color on early read on how that's shaping up so far.

Good morning, Ryan It's Mike Thanks for the question.

So we talked a little bit about.

Unum U S group business the January 1st renewals coming in.

At or favorable to expectations, which is which is really good I would say the same thing about the new sales pipeline in rig count a few things in his opening comments, but the investments that we have continued to make over the last couple of years, particularly around our leave management offering and our HR connect into leading HRS platforms or <unk>.

Steve Zabel: Our focus in 2023 has been completing the accelerated recognition of the PDR has outlined at our February Outlook meeting, considering our position today with the strong year-to-date earnings, robust capital position and clarity on our premium deficiency reserve balance.

Really paying off we're seeing really good sales growth very high attachment rates of our group insurance premiums to those services.

Rick Mckenney: We're pleased with our ability to put the PDR funding behind this and to increase free cash flow available for deployment in 2024 and beyond. Now I'll turn the call back to Rick for his closing comments and I look forward to your questions. Thank you Steve. So there's plenty to discuss this quarter, but I would like to reiterate before we get to questions that in total the strength of the franchise, the strength of the balance sheet and the strength of the capital generation provides tremendous opportunity. As we look to the last quarter and into 2024.

I mentioned last quarter. It is a good time to be in group disability and I think that's both because of risk dynamics, but also lead management has presented a real opportunity for us to differentiate ourselves in the market. It's a it's a top concern for HR teams and having a really strong digital solution backed by.

Rick Mckenney: So the team is here to respond to your questions.

Brianna: I'll ask Brianna to begin the Q&A session. Thank you. As a reminder, in order to ask a question, please press star one. We kindly ask that you limit yourself to one question and one follow up.

Our great people.

<unk> allowed us to kind of move off the spreadsheet and a lot of instances.

Has us feeling good about the January one implementations that are already.

We're already beginning to occur in and maybe we'll just take a minute and check in on January one and sales growth in our voluntary and international businesses.

Sanit Hamas: Our first question comes from Sanit Hamas with Jeffries. Your line is open. Thanks. Good morning. Just wanted to start on LTC. Can you just talk a little bit more about what changed in terms of the assumptions and how your new assumptions compare to what you're using on a statutory basis? Yeah, this is Steve. I can take that question. So as I said in my comments, really the vast majority of the financial impact of those changes.

Yes, Tim Thanks, Mike So we'll start with the Unum brand, Mike mentioned attachment rates for group insurance to our HRC and leaf solutions and we see opportunity to continue to drive the adoption there as well.

We're seeing good sales growth in the <unk> business in 2023 through the third quarter and we expect to continue to build momentum in that business. As we look to continue to benefit from those solutions, Mike mentioned around HRC at Lee that also just cross selling into our existing group business on the unit Brad.

Sanit Hamas: It was related to the strengthening of the assumption for both mortality and labs specifically for the older age population. It also was more focused to on those policies with richer benefits. And so what we've seen over the past few years is that that experience set for those older age policy holders. We practically doubled the data that we have over the past several years. The other thing that we had to work through obviously was the impact of COVID.

The colonial life brand. This year's not worked out as we had expected at Investor day from a sales perspective, but we do see a number of very encouraging trends. One is we see building momentum each quarter of 2023 has seen progressive sales growth over the prior year quarter.

In addition, there are a lot of encouraging signs are business public sector business is the most profitable business for colonial life, and that's grown 13% through the first three quarters.

Sanit Hamas: And as you'll recall, we had a lot of volatility in our experience during the COVID years, both in claim of mortality as well as in incidents. But what we did see were trends in what we saw in our active life terminations. We wanted to really wait till we got to stability over that period of volatility. And then we also looked at some outside industry information and between really those three dynamics, we thought that this was the right time to go ahead and adjust those assumptions.

Certainly new agents are the future pipeline for colonial life sales new H.

<unk> are up 28% through the third quarter sales from those new agents up 15% through the third quarter, we have 12% more 10, 99 sales managers and we did a year ago.

In addition were really excited about the progress we're seeing with our gatherer platform, which is a benefits administration enrollment platform primarily for small employers well.

Sanit Hamas: So those are really the major kind of benefit assumptions that were changed. And then we also updated our rate increase program as part of this assumption, and Change. And then how do those compare to what you have on what you're using under stat? Yeah, it's kind of hard to compare, but I think a good indicator of that is our view of the premium deficiency reserve and really the needs of the recognition there really did not change as we went through the gap assumption review.

Well ahead of expectations. There, we're seeing very good traction with colonial life, selling Unum group insurance through our cross brand sales initiative and that's also helping with colonial life sales as well and the sales from our new districts are up very significantly. This year. So those things are encouraging we're still seeing a good bit of headwind in the large case market.

On the colonial life brand and we have plans to begin addressing that in 2024.

Are you wanting a sense for international.

Sanit Hamas: Got it. And then I guess as we think about first unum in the two to three hundred million contribution, I guess I was a little surprised it was going into AAP because you guys have done so much hedging there. So can you just kind of maybe explain that a little bit more what's causing that increase within first unum? Yeah, I probably just the way to think about it is our first unum block tends to be mostly individual policyholders.

Yes.

I'm positive about.

We look forward based on the strong performance we've had so far this year. So I think sales in the international business this year up about 24%.

The U K accounts for about 15% of that.

The trends are looking positive. We've we've had some market data that shows our share of new business has been rising slightly and we've been the largest writer of business in the first half of the year. So I think we feel good about the momentum going into 2020 for the the tailwind still look favorable.

Sanit Hamas: They are higher richer benefits. And so when we looked at our assumption review, we had to overlay that across the different blocks that it had a little bit of an outsized impact on those policy holders within first unum. We do continue to be very pleased with our hedge program within the first unum block. It provides a really good protection against downside scenarios. We've seen that play out as we've gone through our asset adequacy review, but given that these newest functions we do think we're going to need to strengthen the asset out of fee reserve going in the year end. And so we are going to put a little bit more capital down into that legal entity. Okay, got it. Thanks. Thanks, Annie.

So yeah, we're feeling pretty confident at the moment of the growth.

So there you have it I'd say in general pretty much across products and segments. We've got not only good results year to date, but feeling pretty good actually about accelerating momentum across the business lines Ryan.

Great. Thanks, a lot.

Thank you Sir.

Our next question comes from Alex Scott with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Hey, apologies I'm going to go back to long term care for one and then I have one on the core business.

Tom Gallagher: Our next question comes from Tom Gallagher with Evercore ISI. Your line is open. Thanks a couple more on long-term care. Steve, how much was the offset on increased future rate assumptions that you just referenced? Yeah, the offset was we made an adjustment to our rate increase assumption of about $900 million. And just to kind of put that in the context, we've achieved over $4 billion of rate increase approvals over the years.

First one on long term care I was just interested toward extent. These changes had to do with the individual versus group and just with group being less seasoned and just didn't like.

How the actual to expected trends are.

Coming in.

Yes, I mean, that's just what I was just interested in sort of geography and seasoning of group.

Yeah, probably just a couple of foundational things first for a lot of kind of our claims assumptions and as we think about that we don't necessarily think about individual and group.

Tom Gallagher: So we think that's a very reasonable amount. We clearly have great relationships with regulators and we've had quite a bit of success over the years. So feel very confident about our ability to execute on that going forward. So you're assuming an incremental 900 million of future rating increases versus your prior.

Currently they do have different kind of richness of benefits, which will just cause differences in severity, but by and large we look at those claims consistently.

Probably by and large the same with mortality lapse assumptions are going to be a little bit different but what I'd say is this reserve assumptions.

Tom Gallagher: Okay. And the next question is just the portion of your long-term care block that gets recognized immediately versus the higher, you know, in terms of higher loss ratio cohort versus the better part of the block that gets moved. What does that mix look like? Yeah, the way to think about it is that you go through the liability assumption review and kind of reset your thinking about the needed economic reserve there. And then you do need to let it go through the mechanics of LDTI.

Focused on older Ages.

And so I would say our data set would be predominantly individual just because of the relative age of the block of business that I mentioned earlier you know what we're.

We're talking about very old age 90, plus kind of in that range.

Data set has doubled in the last five years in those cells.

That's going to be predominantly individual policyholders that reached that age.

Got it.

But I guess some of those changes you made your comments sort of suggested that you made those adjustments to both individual and group because of the assumptions are more or less the same.

Tom Gallagher: And so what's going to happen there is there's going to be a portion of it that really gets buffered away into the reserve amount. There's going to be a portion that you're going to recognize in the current period. Now that portion that gets buffered is going to impact your net premium ratio, which is an indicator of your go for loss ratio. And so if you kind of break that down to the numbers, we had about 900 million net of liability change or some impact of a function change.

That's right yeah as appropriate we would make them across the whole block.

Got it alright, that's helpful and then in the core business can you talk about net investment income benefits, you're seeing from higher rates, maybe remind us of.

The trajectory that that can have an and also interested if youre doing anything around reallocation.

They could accelerate some of the benefits.

Tom Gallagher: We've offered about 500 million of that into the reserve that resulted in about a 7% increase in the net premium ratio, which that's going to impact our go forward earnings and that that's why we've kind of re forecast what the margins are going to look like on LTC. And then about 400 million or these back numbers, 368 million fell through to the bottom line and was reported in third quarter earnings. I think the other thing that's important about the dynamic series, we implement these gap assumption changes as of the beginning of the quarter.

Yeah, I would say generally speaking we've had a pretty consistent asset allocation over time, and we've talked about this a little bit in the past over the three three or four years, we probably reallocated a little bit of our new money away.

Away from high yield investments more in your investment grade corporate bonds behind LTC put it behind alternative asset portfolio a bit more than maybe historically speaking we feel good about our trends I mean our portfolio.

Right basically has increased over the last two or three quarters as we were able to invest at rates higher than what's in the current portfolio.

Tom Gallagher: So it was really effective. And so that go forward expectation of the loss ratio was really in effect during the third quarter. So when you think about what our reported loss ratio was in the third quarter, the starting point was really that new net premium ratio, which was in the low to mid 90. Gacha, that's really helpful.

The other thing I guess that I would think about as you know when we think about products like long term disability. We are able to look at the types of rates that we're getting in the market and you know that's going to have an influence on how we think about pricing.

The under L. D T I the the accounting regime is a little bit different than what we maybe did in the past where we looked at our portfolio and kind of created this interest margin that we would wanted to be consistent between discount rates and what we were earning on the portfolio that that's changed a little bit with LD Ti, where it's a little bit more prescribed with the <unk>.

Rick Mckenney: If I can sneak in one more, just if rates were to stay with air now into 2025 at the long end of the curve, how much, and I think now you have a billion sex pdr, if I'm keeping score correctly, of the billion sex, of the billion sex, how much would become redundant? Would that be all of it or most of it? And is it fair to assume that even if it technically is redundant?

Count rate is but I'd say overall, we still feel really good about the margins that we're earning there obviously feel really good about the yields were putting money to work behind the LTC portfolio.

Rick Mckenney: And that you'd probably leave it in fair wind, continuing your ultimate goal of risk transfer? Thanks. That's all right. Let me address that. When you talked about where interest rates are today, and take you back around the pdr and the dynamics around interest rates, as we've talked before, and it's a three year look back rolling average. And so spot rates today are clearly moved up, moved up even more throughout the year.

So we're pretty optimistic going going forward.

Got it thank you.

Thanks, Alex.

Rick Mckenney: So the money that we put in there today is predicated on that three months or three year rolling average as it rolls two spot rates, if interest rates stay where they are, the significant amount of those reserves become redundant over time. So it's not going to happen. It's going to happen on that same three year trajectory that those reserves would in that scenario turn into capital. We've got that capital down, and we think that although we have the ability to move it around to other parts of the entity for other purposes, we would like to keep a lot of it there to make sure that we can live up to our five year, no more capital going into our fair wind entity.

Our next question comes from Joshua Shanker with Bank of America. Your line is open.

At the risk of being repetitive my question is about long term care policies.

Look we're still far far away from the large claiming period for the.

For the book.

That helps a little bit, but I love more information as we go into the future we're going to have more information and the amount of <unk> now.

Now is much less than what you're knowing the future is there a reason to believe especially given post <unk>.

Would be making more adjustments could go either direction to the <unk>.

<unk> assumptions mortality in the future and the volatility around.

Around accurately marking that book.

Greater as you get better information about cleaning habits.

Rick Mckenney: And I think that's that's the clear message there. So although we have the ability to, you know, giving shorty to investors around not needing to put more money behind long term care, we think has shared our older value. So that's that's our intent going forward. That's helpful. Thanks Rick.

Yeah, I think I'd go back just on the comments that I made before we really did not make significant adjustments are around kind of our younger age population, whether it would be claim counts were incidents mortality.

We feel pretty good about those assumptions, we have very robust datasets.

Joel Hurwitz: Our next question comes from Joel Hurwitz with Dowling and partners. Your line is open. Hey, good morning. Another one on LTC. We just talked about the opportunities for further portfolio duration extension in any way to quantify the benefit from that and the rate edges that you put on. Yeah, this is Steve. Yeah, probably the points that I would make around that is just we're really happy about both the hedge program that we've put in place.

This last change was really around where there was a little bit of uncertainty.

Certainly just because of the level of data that we had in the population.

It will age into having better data in those cells and we just got to the point this year as we're going through our experience study, where we thought we have credible data to say that we needed to make the adjustment. It was validated by other industry information that I would say had more robust information in those older age populations.

Joel Hurwitz: We're up to about 2.6 billion of noional amount on that hedge program. We've already seen the benefit, but it also just protect us from some of those downside scenarios. We took the opportunity to reposition part of the LTC portfolio spelling out of some short duration bonds and being able to increase both duration, credit quality and frankly the annual earnings coming off of that block. You know, we'll continue to roll that program forward from a hedging perspective.

So the thing that I'd, probably leave it with is your point about positive or negative adjustments going forward LD T. L. DTI does require you to look at really every assumption individually.

And when do you think it's appropriate adjust those assumptions individually.

Former construct was more of a looking at overall reserve adequacy and have an only make adjustments. When you felt like your AGR aggregate reserve was no longer appropriate and you really saw that in colonial this quarter as we went through and we looked at those assumptions, we did see some assumptions where our experience was running favorable.

Joel Hurwitz: As I mentioned before, it's really ladders in based on quarterly cash flows. So we will continue as those hedges mature quarter by quarter will continue to extend that so we think that will be really good protection in the future. I also mentioned in my script that we've kind of extended that time horizon for those cash flows from five to seven years. And so we took the opportunity to extend as far as scenarios and that sort of thing.

Two the assumption built into our active life reserves. So we made those adjustments for the assumption, even though in aggregate that we would view that reserve is being more than sufficient.

Joel Hurwitz: You know, we'll have a guidance call coming up here in the next several months to talk about 2024 in our investor day last year. We gave some scenarios, which really gave you an idea what the downside protection is. I think that's the best way to articulate it. And so probably just wait until we refresh that going into next year and give you a little bit more guidance, just how much protection we do have against the PDR given the actions that we've taken.

We actually chose to go ahead and release reserves based on the current accounting guidance. So yes, I would say it could go both ways, but I would also say.

We've compiled a lot more data than we had several years ago and we'll just continue to monitor that as we go forward.

And how many years into the future would we need to go before we can make some.

Joel Hurwitz: And Joel, I think you're asking a little bit about the repositioning trade that we did as well and so the team did a really nice job looking at cash flows throughout the cycle and thinking about how we put those cash flows in the right space. That's what that trade was as well that we did in the quarter and so is there more opportunity to do that we were feeling pretty good about the cash flow match, not just in general as we're talking about the hedging but also as we look at specific durations throughout the curve and so Martha Lieber, Steven the team did a really nice job about positioning us for that.

Joel Hurwitz: Okay, that's helpful and then shifting to the group disability can you just provide enough data on expectations moving forward and in terms of pricing for for one one how is it being affected by the continued favorable experience that you're seeing. Right. Yeah, thanks and good morning, Joel, you're right we continue to feel good about the group disability benefit ratio of 57 and a half this quarter continues to benefit I think from a favorable macro environment like Rick highlighted paid incidents has been favorable recoveries both encountered upward size continue to be strong for us.

Joel Hurwitz: And I do think that the actual aerial underwriting teams the renewal of delivery over the last couple of years through sales and client management and ultimately our benefits team is a big contributor to that and as you said certainly that favorable experience will and has begun to flow into renewal conversation as you know we sit here having worked through the large employer inventory for January 1st effective and kind of working down into the middle and smaller end of the market we feel really actually quite good about the persistency levels that we're achieving. You know like we've talked about over time we would expect the gradual increase back towards longer term targets for group disability loss ratio.

I was just kind of wondering if you could discuss the landscape for risk transfer and have to imagine that actions between the PDR first contributions and then the credit sort of repositioning I dunno at the margin does that change the profile at all sign you up there.

There.

Yeah happy to do that Mike. Thanks for the question is you know when you think about this transfer options, we talked about the market has been consistent so there's no news there, but I think when you talked about the dynamics. So you know it really is about how a potential buyer a reinsure might look at the different dynamics, we see so many of the things you talked about many of the changes.

They're gonna be more from our side of the equation when they look at it from the other side I think that's gonna be very consistent so many things you've talked about in terms of funding levels P. D. R that would just change how we recognize such a transaction it doesn't change the ability of somebody else to come in or the ability for us to be able to do the <unk>.

Joel Hurwitz: But again the dynamics are such that we would see that happening pretty gradually over the coming six 810 quarters and feel like this, you know high 50% low 60% is a pretty good target here for the short the midterm. Okay, thank you. Thanks, Joel, thanks Joel.

<unk>, So I think that world is pretty consistent as it would've been prior to the third quarter.

Ryan Kruger: Our next question comes from Ryan Kruger with KBW your line is open. Hey, good morning. Unfortunately one more question on long term care I guess in terms of the capital contributions still being the same for the year but but doing the two to 300 million in first year. What was the what was cause or what drove the offset in terms of lower capital contributions and fair and exemptions that the grade in the higher rates or something else there.

Okay. Thanks, guys.

Our next question comes from well not Berdache with Raymond James Your line is open.

Hey, good morning could you talk about the last screen assumption on the L. T C block.

Ryan Kruger: Yeah, basically Ryan it is the grade in the higher rates that that's the main thing driving and it's really the combination of that but also the hedging program and some of the de risking that we did in the portfolio. That that gives us downside protection the future but it also does give us a little bit of benefit kind of in the current calculation. So I'd say it's a combination of those two things that higher rates bleeding in to kind of the new money assumption we're able to use and also the de risking.

10 minutes pretty close to zero and the older block with richer benefits.

Yeah, you know when when we we haven't disclosed that and probably won't we already had a fairly low lapse rate on those so it's it's it's it's a reasonable assumption to assume we're we're getting pretty close to zero.

Okay, just trying to see if there's any potential for future last.

Assumption.

And then right <unk> David this is a very.

Obvious question, but should we assume the $500 million a share repurchase authorization to represent our run rate in 24 and beyond.

And if so yeah I think.

Ryan Kruger: Okay, nice that's thank you.

Oh, Okay, yeah well.

Rick Mckenney: So then in terms of the 4Q sales pipeline can you can you give any color on an early read them on how that's shaping up so far. Thanks for the question. And I say we talked a little bit about the UW-US Group business, the January 1st renewals coming in at our favorable expectations, which is really good. I take the same thing about the new sales pipeline, a few things in his opening comments, but the investments that we have continue to make over the last couple of years, particularly around our lead management offering and our HR connect into leading HRIS platforms are really paying off, we're seeing really good sales growth, very high attachment rates of our group insurance premium to those services.

Just just to just to give you a little bit of history. So last year, we came into the year at a run rate of 200 million we up to.

The 300 million kind of halfway through the year and you can look at this is we're offering that run right again. So the authorization goes in one 124, but I think it's a reasonable assumption that that double complete that throughout the course of the year.

Okay.

If I can get one follow up on that could you talk about what did you need the confidence to move that up to 500 I think it was around 400 kind of pre pandemic pre teen.

T R. So it's pretty.

Pretty meaningful bumped up there.

Yeah, I I think it really goes back to the fall of capital generation model that we have and you know a big move that we talked about this quarter is the PDR being fully funded so there's not capital of it is going to be going behind longterm care and when you think of our statutory generation also the robust physicians that we have both RBC and cash all those we feel very good about moving that.

Rick Mckenney: You know, I mentioned last quarter is a good time to be in group disability, and I think that's both because of risk dynamics, but also lead management has presented a real opportunity for us to differentiate ourselves in the market. It's a top concern for HR teams, and having a really strong digital solution backed by great people has allowed us to kind of move off the spreadsheet in a lot of instances and has us feeling good about the January 1 implementations that are already beginning to occur, and maybe we'll just take a minute and check on January 1 and sales growth in our voluntary and international businesses.

Up to 500, and we think even with that we're gonna still have good flexibility too to execute on our strategy. So a lot of confidence about moving that up and and also the other opportunities that we have out there to deploy that capital.

Okay. Thank you.

Our next question comes from West Carmichael with Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Hey, good morning, Uhm I just had one follow up on clothes block and I guess, just curious I think with the assumption review you reset the net premium ratio to the low mid nineties, but the the LPC loss ratio was 105 around there in the quarter. So just curious if you expect the same level of earnings roughly in the fourth quarter should we expect that loss ratio to be in that near one.

Rick Mckenney: Sure, yeah, this is Tim. Thanks, Mike. So we'll start with the Unum brand. Mike mentioned attachment rates for group insurance to our HRC and lead solutions, and we see opportunity to continue to drive BB adoption there as well. We're seeing good sales growth in the Unum BB business in 2023 through the third quarter, and we expect to continue to build momentum in that business as we look to continue to benefit from those solutions Mike mentioned around HRC and lead, and also just cross-selling into our existing group business on the Unum brand.

105 per cent range or I'm, just curious if it comes down towards the towards the N P. R.

Yeah. This is Steve I I can take that the the guidance that I gave as far as setting different expectations for go forward earnings and longterm care that would be more resetting the loss ratio from the previously expected 85 up.

Up to that level, where the new net premium ratio is in the low to mid nineties I would I would say is you know we did continue to see elevated claims incidents in third quarter and so we need to see how that plays out in the fourth quarter, but short of those types of variations, we would expect that that low nine.

Rick Mckenney: For the quality-like brand this year's not worked out as we had expected at investor day from the sales perspective, but we do see a number of very encouraging trends. One is we see building momentum. Each quarter of 2023 has seen progressive sales growth over the prior year quarter. In addition, there are a lot of encouraging signs. Our business, public sector business, is the most profitable business for colonial life, and that's grown 13% through the first three quarters.

The low to mid nineties to be our loss ratio going forward in the guidance that I gave around earnings would've been based on that a longterm care or for the total closed <unk>.

Got it thanks to you.

Yep.

Our next question comes from kidney Black with J P. Morgan Your line is open.

Rick Mckenney: Certainly new agents are the future pipeline for colonial life sales. New agents are up 28% through the third quarter. Sales from those new agents are 15%. Through the third quarter, we have 12% more to 99 sales managers than we did a year ago. In addition, we're really excited about the progress we're seeing with our gather platform, which is a benefit administration and enrollment platform, primarily for small employers, well ahead of expectations there.

Okay I had a couple of questions along the lines of what's already been discussed on the call, but on longterm care.

Specific assumption that you changed that led to the.

Increase in I'm, assuming there's some puts and takes but what are the main ones.

Yeah, I I would say just kind of reiterate the comments that I've made it was very focused on laps and mortality assumptions for our active life policyholders. So those policyholders that are still in force and not on claim it was very focused on older age policyholders, where we've built a lot.

Rick Mckenney: We're seeing very attraction with colonial life selling Unum group insurance through our cross-brand sales initiative, and that's also helping with colonial life sales as well. And the sales from our new districts are up very significantly this year. So, those things are encouraging.

More data over the last three four to five years and then it was also focused on those with Richard benefits. So those that would have policyholder benefits that were you know a lot of lifetime benefits are higher inflation. So just Richard <unk> within the policies. So so that that would be one major category and then as I meant.

Tim Arnold: We're still seeing a good bit of headwind and the large case market on the colonial life brand, and we have plans to begin addressing that in 2024.

Mark Till: Mark, can one of you stands for International? Yeah, I mean, we've been positive about the look forward based on the strong performance we've had so far this year. So I think styles in the international business to share up about 24%. The UK accounts for about 15% of that, the trends are looking positive. We've had some market data that shows our share of new business has been rising slightly and we've been the largest writer of business in the first time. So I think we feel good about the momentum going into 2024. The tailwind still look favorable. So yeah, we're feeling pretty constant at the moment of the growth.

And the other would be we we did modify than our rate increase program assumption in the value that we do think we're gonna get from that because we're basically gonna incorporate these others liability assumption changes into how we think about actuarially justified rate increases with the regulator so that those would be the big areas.

And on laps assumptions and some of the other key assumptions how are those on a statutory basis horses, they're you've gone on gap, because I realized you'd overall reserves and stabbed or higher but are those assumptions more conservative as well the ones you changed or not.

Rick Mckenney: So there you have it. I'd say in general, pretty much cross products and segments. We've got not only good results here today, but feeling pretty good actually about accelerating momentum across the business lines, right?

Yeah. So.

Rick Mckenney: Great.

The I think the key thing there is for the premium deficiency reserved for the fair wind block.

This change to assumptions did not change our view.

The level of reserves statutory reserves needed related to the premium deficiency reserved for first you're limited to change our view a little bit and that's why we're going to need to strengthen our acid adequacy reserved and why we are gonna put a little bit more money down in the first unit <unk>. So I think that's the way to think about it.

Alex Scott: Thank you. Our next question comes from Alex Scott with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Hey, apologies. I'm going to go back to long-term care for one and then I have one on the core business. First on long-term care, I was just interested to what extent these changes had to do with individual versus group. And just with group being less seasoned, interested in like, you know, how the actual expected trends are coming in. Yeah, I mean, that's the just, but I was just interested in sort of geography and season in a group.

And would that have been aimed locations on a go forward basis as well in terms of earnings generation or cash cash flow generation from the block.

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No because really these two blocks are ones that have not been cash generating you know historically, we've had to contribute capital to support them and N. As we've stated you know we believe coming out of 2023, we're not gonna have to do that over the next five years. So I would say just a cat.

Steve Zabel: Yeah, probably just a couple foundational things. First, for a lot of kind of our claims assumptions, and as we think about that, we don't necessarily think about individual and group separately. They do have different kind of richness of benefits, which will just cause differences in severity, but by and large, we look at those claims consistently. Probably mind-lars is same with mortality laps functions are going to be a little bit different, but what I'd say is this reservist function was pretty focused on older ages.

Vital needs physician nothing has changed in our view based on these assumptions changes.

Yeah, what I meant was this is sort of a one time injection and that you're viewing or at least in the next few years as opposed to ongoing that'd be it yeah, I just think about it as a one time injection.

And then just lastly on disability your margins have been very good everybody else has it been good as well why isn't that resulting in more of a production and pricing as companies are doing their renewals and are recognized on all the the entire block doesn't get replaced every year, but the stuff that is getting to be priced is it.

Steve Zabel: And so I would say our data set would be predominantly individual, just because of the relative age of the block of business. And I mentioned earlier, you know what we're talking about very old age 90 plus kind of in that range. Our data set is doubled in the last five years in those cells, and you know, that's going to be predominantly individual policyholders that reach that age. Got it, but I guess some of those changes you made, you know, your comments sort of suggested that you made those adjustments to both individual and group because the assumptions are more or less the same. That's right. Yeah, as a program, we would make them across the whole block. Got it. All right, that's helpful.

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That's my <unk> I'll take you to me I would say in general.

You're seeing is that good experience coming through and like you said, it's coming through on the portion of the book that is is being renewed and for <unk> for most of the <unk> that's a.

About a third every year that it's coming through I'd also say one of the things that you said a little bit as well Jimmy is your typically using two to three years of experience. So what we've encountered for instance here in the last four quarters would just be part of what goes into that renewal and it would extend back you know a year or two.

Steve Zabel: And then in the core business, can you talk about net investment income, you know, the benefits you're seeing from higher rates may be reminded us of the trajectory that that can have. And also interested if you're doing anything around reallocation, they could accelerate some of the benefits. Yeah, I would say generally speaking, you know, we've had a pretty consistent asset allocation over time, and we've talked about this a little bit in the past.

And so then that is gonna slow a little bit of experience coming through as well and in general. It is a good time to be in group benefits of group disability in particular.

You know to the extent.

Client is up for renewal, we're gonna we're gonna pass along good experience. We still will have sales were frankly, <unk>, where she can read increases and a balance of the two we think puts that group disability loss ratio kind of.

Steve Zabel: You know, over the three or four years, we probably reallocated a little bit of our new money away from high yield investments more in, you know, your investment grade corporate bonds behind LTC, put it behind alternative asset portfolio. A bit more than maybe historically speaking, we feel good about our trends. I mean, our portfolio rate basically has increased over the last two or three quarters, as we're able to invest in rates higher than what's in the current portfolio.

Low sixties as we look forward to hearing the short term enter.

Alright, thank you.

Our final question comes from Maxwell for a chat with can I Securities. Your line is open.

Good morning, I'm, calling in today for Mark Hughes. So you mentioned the pressure in large case, there was a colonial life.

Can you expand on that and maybe the steps that you pointed to that you plan to take in 2024.

Steve Zabel: The other thing I guess that I would think about is, you know, when we think about products like long term disability, we are able to look at the types of rates that we're getting in the market, and you know, that's going to have an influence on how we think about pricing. The under LDTI, the accounting regimes a little bit different than what we maybe did in the past, where we looked at our portfolio and kind of created this interest margin that we wanted to be consistent between discount rates and what what we were earning on the portfolio, that's changed a little bit with LDTI where it's a little bit more prescribed what the discount rate is.

Yep. That's all thanks this is tomorrow.

For the past couple of years, we've seen some pressure in large case and we've been pretty consistent in saying that at colonial life, We're gonna be opportunistic and that segment 75 per cent of our customers have fewer than 100 employees and we feel really good about our value proposition that space we're seeing.

Nice growth this year in the 509 99 segment of 1000 segment, where we're feeling the most pressure there are a couple of capabilities that we're developing in the second half of 23 and early 24 that we think will physicians effectively for sale soon 24 25.

Steve Zabel: But I'd say overall we still feel really good about the margins that we're earning there obviously feel really good about the yields we're putting money to work behind the LTC portfolio, and so we're pretty optimistic going going forward. Thank you. Thanks, Alex.

Alright, thank you.

This concludes I Q and a session I will now turn the call back directly Kenny for any closing remarks.

Joshua Shanker: Our next question comes from Joshua Shanker with Bank of America. Your line is open. At the risk of being repetitive, my question is about long-term care, apologies. We're still far, far away from the large, claiming period for the, for the book. Matt helped us a little bit, but I'd love more information. As we go into the future, we're going to have more information and the amount you know is much less than what you're going to know in the future.

Thank you I appreciate everybody stay in over a few extra minutes. It was a few things to get through this quarter, but I just reiterate designate wrap up this year and headed the 20th 24 lots of confidence Cross company in terms of what we're going to be able to execute on we're here for follow up questions. I'd also say will be out at a couple of conferences and hope to see you around.

Through the rest of this year and early into 2024, and I think that concludes our call today. Thanks for joining.

Thank you everyone. This concludes today's conference you may now disconnect.

Joshua Shanker: Is there a reason to believe, especially given post-LDPI, that you would be making more adjustments, could go either direction to the last assumptions and mortality in the future, and that the volatility around, around accurately marking that book will get greater as you get better information about cleaning habits. Yeah, I think I'd go back to some of the comments that I made before, you know, we really did not make significant adjustments around kind of our younger age population, whether it be claim counts, where, you know, incidents, mortality.

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Joshua Shanker: We, we feel pretty good about those assumptions. We have very robust data sets. This last change was really around where there was a little bit of uncertainty, uncertainty just because of the level of data that we had in the population. And, you know, we'll, it will age into having better data in those cells. And we just got to the point this year, we were going through our experience study where we thought we had credible data to say that we needed to make the adjustment. It was validated by other industry information that I'd say had more robust information in those older age populations.

Steve Zabel: And so the thing that I probably leave it with is your point about positive or negative adjustments going forward, LDT, LDTI does require you to look at really every function individually. And when you think it's appropriate, adjust those assumptions individually, the former construct was more of looking at overall reserve adequacy and have an only make adjustments when you felt like your aggregate aggregate reserve was no longer appropriate. And you really thought that in colonial.

Steve Zabel: This quarter, as we went through and we looked at those assumptions, we did see some assumptions where our experience was running favorable to the assumption built in or active life reserves. So we made those adjustments for the assumption, even though in aggregate that we know we would view that reserve as being more than sufficient. And we actually chose to go ahead and release reserves based on the current accounting guidance. So yeah, I would say I could go both ways, but I would also say, you know, we've compiled a lot more data than we had several years ago, and we'll just continue to monitor that as we go forward.

Steve Zabel: And how many years in the future would we need to go before we can make some comments with confidence about the role COVID mortality might have on the LTC book? Yeah, it's a good question. I think as we think about climate mortality, we have pretty good confidence that we've probably kind of run our course as far as.., and how COVID might have impacted that, because we're seeing climate mortality back to pretty much expected levels.

Steve Zabel: I would say the adjustment that we made this quarter around policyholder mortality and lapses in the older age wasn't necessarily based on any volatility that we maybe thought during COVID, it was just building a better data set, a more robust data set, and then being able to with confidence make adjustment there. But as you know, I mean, this is a very, very long-tailed business, and so we'll just have to continue to monitor experiences as it comes in over time.

Joshua Shanker: Thank you for the answers. Yep. Thanks, Jess.

Mike Ward: Our next question comes from Mike Ward with City Group. Your line is open. Hey guys, thanks for squeezing me in.

Rick Mckenney: I was just kind of wondering if you could discuss the landscape for risk transfer. And I have to imagine the actions between the PDR first Unum contributions and then the credit sort of repositioning, I don't know, at the margin, does that change the profile at all, any update there? Yeah, happy to do that, Mike. Thanks for the question. You know, when you think about risk transfer options, we talked about the market has been consistent.

Rick Mckenney: So there's no news there, but I think when you talked about the dynamics, you know, it really is about how a potential buyery, you know, if you're not sure, might look at the different dynamics we see so many of the things you talked about, many of the changes are going to be more from our side of the equation when they look at it from the other side, I think that's going to be very consistent. So many things you talked about in terms of funding levels, PDR, that would just change how we recognize such a transaction.

Rick Mckenney: It doesn't change the ability of somebody else to come in or the ability for us to be able to do the transaction. So I think that world is pretty consistent as it would have been prior to the third quarter. Okay, thanks guys.

Wilma Burdis: Our next question comes from Wilma Bertis with Raymond James. Your line is open. Hey, good morning.

Wilma Burdis: Could you talk about the lapse rate assumption on the LTC block? Should we assume that it's pretty close to zero on the older block with richer benefits? Yeah, you know, we haven't disclosed that and probably won't we already had a fairly low lapse rate on those. So it's it's a reasonable assumption to assume we're we're getting pretty close to zero.

Wilma Burdis: Okay, just trying to see if there's any potential for future labs rate assumption you created there.

Rick Mckenney: And then should we maybe this is a very obvious question, but should we assume the 500 million of sharing purchase authorization to represent a run rate and 24 and beyond? And it's so good.

Rick Mckenney: Yeah, well, just just to just to give you a little bit of history. So last year we came into the year at a run rate of 200 million, we opted to 300 million kind of halfway through the year and you can look at this as we're up and that run rate again. So the authorization goes in 1124, but I think the reasonable assumption that that will complete that throughout the course of the year.

Rick Mckenney: Okay, if I could get one follow-up on that, could you talk about what gives you the confidence to move that up to 500? I think it was around 400 kind of pre-pandemic, pre-PDR, so it's pretty meaningful bump up there. Yeah, I think it really goes back to the full capital generation model that we have. And you know, a big movie we talked about this quarter is the PDR being fully funded. So there's not capital is going to be going behind long-term care.

Rick Mckenney: When you think of our statutory generation, also the robust positions that we have, both RBC and cash levels, we feel very good about moving that up to 500. And we think even with that, we're going to still have good flexibility to execute on our strategy. So a lot of confidence about moving that up and also the other opportunities that we have out there to deploy that capital. Thank you.

Wesley Carmichael: Our next question comes from Wes Carmichael with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Hey, good morning.

Steve Zabel: I just had one follow-up on closed block. And I guess just curious, I think with the assumption review, you reset the net premium ratio to the low mid 90s. But the the LPC loss ratio was 105 around there in the quarter. So just curious if you expect the same level of earnings roughly in the fourth quarter, should we expect that loss ratio to be in that near 105% range or I just curious if it comes down towards the towards the NPR.

Steve Zabel: Yeah, this is Steve, I can take that the guidance that I gave as far as setting different expectations for go forward earnings in long-term care. That would be more resetting the loss ratio from the previously expected 85 up up to that level where the new net premium ratio is in the low to mid 90s. What I would say is, you know, we did continue to see elevated claims incidents in third quarter.

Steve Zabel: And so we need to see how that plays out in the fourth quarter. But short of those types of variations, we would expect that that low nine low to mid 90s to be our loss ratio going forward. And the guidance that I gave around earnings would have been based on that in long-term care for the total closed block. Got it. Thanks Steve. Yep.

Jimmy Boehler: Our next question comes from Jimmy Boehler with JP Morgan. Your line is open. I had a couple of questions along the lines of what's already been discussed on the call, but on long-term care, over the specific assumptions that you changed that led to the reserve increase. And I'm assuming there's some puts and takes before the main ones. Yeah, I would say just kind of reiterate the comments that I've made. It was very focused on lapse and mortality assumptions for our active life policyholders.

Jimmy Boehler: So those policyholders that are still in force and not on claim. It was very focused on older age policyholders where we've built a lot of more data over the last three four to five years. And then it was also focused on those with richer benefits. So those that would have policyholder benefits that were, you know, a lot of lifetime benefits or higher inflation. So just richer benefits within the policies. So that would be one major category.

Jimmy Boehler: And then as I mentioned, the other would be what we did modify then our rate increase program assumption and the value that we do think we're going to get from that because we're basically going to incorporate these other oversupplyability assumption changes into how we think about actually justified rate increases with the regulators. So those would be the two big areas. And on lapse assumptions and some of the other key assumptions, how are those on a statutory basis versus where you've gone on gap because I realize you're overall reserves in stat or higher, but are those assumptions more conservative as well.

Jimmy Boehler: The one few change turns out. Yeah, so I think the key thing there is for the premium deficiency reserve, for the fair wind block, this change to assumptions and not change our view of the level of reserve, statutory reserve needed related to the premium deficiency reserve. For first unit, it did change our view a little bit, and that's why we're going to need to strengthen our asset adequacy reserve and why we are going to put a little bit more money down in the first unit.

Jimmy Boehler: So I think that's the way to think[inaudible] All right, thank you.

Rick Mckenney: This concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the call back to Rick McKenney for any closing remarks. Thank you, Briana. I appreciate everybody staying over a few extra minutes. A few things to get through this quarter, but I just reiterate that as we wrap up this year and headed to 2024, lots of confidence across the company in terms of what we're going to be able to execute on. We're here for follow-up questions. I'd also say we'll be out at a couple of conferences and hope to see you around through the rest of this year and early into 2024.

Brianna: And I think that concludes our call today. Thanks for joining. Thank you, everyone.

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