Q3 2023 Brinks Co Earnings Call
Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the Brings Company's Dirt Quarter 2023 Arnames Call.
Hello, and welcome to the Brink's company's third quarter 'twenty to 'twenty three earnings call.
Speaker 1: This morning, Brink's issued a press release detailing its third quarter of 2023 results.
This morning at Brink's issued a press release detailing its third quarter 'twenty to 'twenty three results.
Speaker 1: The company also filed an 8K that includes a release and slides that will be used in today's call.
The company also filed an 8-K that includes the release and slides that will be used in today's call.
Speaker 1: The release and slides are available in the investor-relations section of the company's website at investors.brinks.com. At this time, all participants already listen only mode. The question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and will be a-
The release and slides are available on the Investor Relations section of the Companys website at investors Dodd Franks Dot com.
At this time all participants are in a listen only mode.
A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and will be available for replay. This.
This call and the Q&A session will contain forward looking statements actual results could differ materially from projected or estimated results.
Speaker 1: Actual results could differ materially from rejected or estimated results.
Speaker 1: Information regarding factors that could cause such differences are available in the footnote. So today's press release and then the company's most recent SEC fire.
Regarding factors that could cause such differences are available in the footnotes of today's press release and in the company's most recent SEC filings.
Speaker 1: The information presented and discussed on this call is representative of today only. Brings the assumes no obligation to update any forward looking statements.
Information presented and discussed on this call is representative of today only.
<unk> assumes no obligation to update any forward looking statements. The call is copyrighted and may not be used without written permission from brink's I will now turn the call over to your host Jesse Jenkins, Vice President of Investor Relations. Mr. Jenkins you may begin.
Speaker 1: now now turn the call over to your host Jesse Jenkins, vice president on best relations. Mr. Jenkins, you may begin.
Speaker 2: Thanks and good morning. Joining me today are CEO Mark Ubank's and CFO Kirk McMackin. This morning, Brinks reported third quarter 2023 results on a Gap, NonGap, and Constant Currency basis. Most of our comments today will be focused on our nonGap results because we believe these results make it easier for investors to assess operating performance between periods.
Thanks, and good morning, joining me today are CEO, Mark Eubanks, and CFO Kirk Mcmackin. This morning, <unk> reported third quarter 2023 results on a GAAP non-GAAP and constant currency basis. Most of our comments today will be focused on our non-GAAP results because we believe these.
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Speaker 2: Reconciliation of non-GAP results to their most comparable GAP results are provided in the press release, the appendix of the presentation, and in this morning's 8K filing. I'll now turn the call over to bring CEO Mark U-Banks.
Reconciliations of non-GAAP results to their most comparable GAAP results are provided in the press release, the appendix of the presentation and in this morning's 8-K filing I will now turn the call over to brink CEO Mark <unk>.
Thanks, Jessie good morning, all and thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3: Start on slide three. I'm pleased to report another quarter of strong growth in revenue, profit margin, and free cash flow as we execute on our strategy.
Starting with slide three I'm pleased to report another quarter of strong growth in revenue profit margin and free cash flow as we execute on our strategy.
Speaker 3: Total revenue was up 8% including organic growth of 6...
Total revenue was up 8%, including organic growth of 6%.
Speaker 3: Our cash and valuables management business grew organically 4% and the ATM managed services and digital retail solutions customer offerings were up 18% organically. Operating profit of 166 million was up 38% organically with margins expanding 230 basis points to 13.5%. Adjusted EBITDA was up 22% with margins expanding 220 basis points to 18.8%.
Our cash and valuables management business grew organically, 4% in the ATM managed services and digital retail solutions customer offerings were up 18% organically operating profit of $166 million was up 38% organically with margins expanding 230 basis points to 13 five.
5% adjusted EBITDA was up 22% with margins expanding 220 basis points to 18, 8%.
Speaker 3: These margins represent historic highs for the third quarter and reflected discipline of our teams to deliver strong cost per activity and improved price mix as we continue to shift more of our business to AMS and DRS.
These margins represent historic highs for the third quarter and reflect the discipline of our teams to deliver strong cost productivity and improved price mix as we continue to shift more of our business to a M. S N Drs.
Speaker 3: I'm happy to report we're well our way to our year in free cash flow and leverage terms.
I'm happy to report, we're well on our way to our year end free cash flow and leverage targets gas generation continues to accelerate with year to date free cash flow almost 200% from the third quarter, just a year ago the.
Speaker 3: Gas generation continues to accelerate with your-to-date free gas flow up almost 200% from the third quarter just a year ago. The gas generation is strengthening our balance sheet with leverage down two-tenths quarter-on-quarter to three times adjusted EBIDA at quarter-in.
The cash generation is strengthening of our balance sheet with leverage down two tenths quarter on quarter to three times adjusted EBITDA at quarter end.
Speaker 3: Look at the key revenue drivers. We delivered solid volume growth in our AMS and DRS offerings and executed strong pricing actions across all lines of business.
Looking at the key revenue drivers, we delivered solid volume growth in our E. M. S N drs offerings and executed strong pricing actions across all lines of business.
Speaker 3: We've also seen foreign exchange move against us a bit since our last market update with the dollar strengthening considerably across most major currencies where we operate.
We've also seen foreign exchange move against Us a bit since our last market update with the dollar strengthening strengthening considerably across most major currencies, where we operate.
Speaker 3: Margin Expansion was highlighted by good progress in North America, where Margin Expans expanded 240 basis points year on year. As we continue to prioritize customer profitability and efficiency across all of our operations.
Margin expansion was highlighted by good progress in North America, where margins expanded 240 basis points year on year, as we continue to prioritize customer profitability and efficiency across all of our operations.
Speaker 3: We are leveraging the Brinks Business System to further instill our lean culture into our daily work and our operating.
We are leveraging the brinks business system to further instill our lean culture into our daily work and our operating cadence.
Speaker 3: Other profitability drivers in the quarter included price realization, improved revenue mix from AMS DRS, as well as restructuring safety.
Other profitability drivers in the quarter, including price realization improved revenue mix from Ams Drs as well as restructuring savings.
Speaker 3: Our key highlight of the quarter was our execution on cash generation, or the compounding effect of revenue growth and margin expansion are leading to meaningful improvements.
A key highlight of the quarter was our execution on cash generation or the compounding effect of revenue growth and margin expansion are leading to meaningful improvements.
Speaker 3: Precast flow in the third quarter was over $150 million.
Free cash flow in the third quarter was over $150 million.
Speaker 3: You're to date, we have already exceeded the total full year 2022 free cash flow with our seasonally strong fourth quarter still ahead of it.
Year to date, we have already exceeded the total full year 2022 free cash flow with our seasonally strong fourth quarter still ahead of us.
Speaker 3: With the last 12-month conversion rates already over our 40% target, we are well positioned to exceed the midpoint of our previous free cash-woken guidance.
For the last 12 month conversion rates already over our 40% target, we are well positioned to exceed the midpoint of our previous free cash flow guidance.
Speaker 3: As we have consistently discussed, our capital allocation strategy remains focused on capital returns to shareholders with $106 million worth of share repurchases a year to date, which is approximately half of our total free cash flow for the year.
As we have consistently discussed our capital allocation strategy remains focused on capital returns to shareholders with $106 million worth of share repurchases year to date, which is approximately half of our total free cash flow for the year.
Speaker 3: As we turn to the fourth quarter and our full year guidance, we remain committed to the targets that we increased after the first quarter. We expect volume growth in AMS and DRS revenue, strong pricing execution, and continued cost productivity leveraging the brings business.
As we turn to the fourth quarter and our full year guidance, we remain committed to the targets that we increased after the first quarter, we expect volume growth in Ams and Drs revenue strong pricing execution and continued cost productivity leveraging the <unk> business system.
Speaker 3: We are monitoring the macroeconomic risks related to the ongoing wars in Europe and the pressure of high inflation on consumers that could both have an impact on our results.
We are monitoring the macroeconomic risks related to the ongoing wars in Europe, and the pressure of high inflation on consumers that could both have an impact on our results.
Speaker 3: Despite these uncertainties, the structural improvements in working capital and clear line of sight to our remaining cash obligations before you're in, allow us to increase our guidance for free cash flow to the high end of our previous range.
Despite these uncertainties the structural improvements in working capital and clear line of sight to our remaining cash obligations before year and allow us to increase our guidance for free cash flow to the high end of our previous range.
Speaker 3: We believe this guidance accurately balances the opportunities and risks that we see as we close out the year.
We believe this guidance accurately balances the opportunities and risks that we see as we close out the year.
Speaker 3: And finally, as we disclosed last week, the continued progress on our strategy, the strong free cash flow performance, and the recent share repurchase activity has given our board a confidence to authorize a new half a billion dollar share repurchase plan over the next two years.
And finally as we disclosed last week the continued progress on our strategy the strong free cash flow performance and the recent share repurchase activity has given our board the confidence to authorize a new half a billion dollars share repurchase plan over the next two years.
Speaker 3: Kurt will have more and a few slides on both the guidance and our capital allocation priority.
We will have more in a few slides on both the guidance and our capital allocation priorities.
Speaker 3: Turning this slide for, I'd like to provide a few more details when the drivers are our performance and our customer offers.
Turning to slide four I'd like to provide a few more details on the drivers of our performance and our customer offerings.
Speaker 3: The Cash and Vables Management Corp of our business grew 4% organically in the quarter. While pricing growth continues to moderate from the peaks last year and most of the markets we serve, we remain vigilant in our efforts to offset persistent inflationary pressure.
The cash and valuables management core of our business grew 4% organically in the quarter, while pricing growth continues to moderate and the peaks last year and most of the markets. We serve we remain vigilant in our efforts to offset persistent inflationary pressures.
Speaker 3: Our strong pricing actions more than offset the market softness that we saw in our higher margin global services.
Our strong pricing actions more than offset the market softness that we saw in our higher margin global services business.
Speaker 3: As with other shipping and logistics providers, we've seen a macroeconomic slowdown in the handling of precious metals and value.
As with other shipping and logistics providers, we've seen a macroeconomic slowdown in the handling of precious metals and valuables.
Speaker 3: We saw this slow down across all geographies, but it was most pronounced in our rest of World's Seconds.
We saw the slowdown across all geographies, but it was most pronounced in our rest of world segment.
Speaker 3: We expect this trend to continue into the fourth quarter, offset by the growth in AMS and DRS revenue, which I'll touch on in a second.
We expect this trend to continue into the fourth quarter offset by the growth in E. M. S N Drs revenue, which I'll touch on in a second.
Speaker 3: On the cost side, the Brings to Business System continues to drive service improvements and cost efficiencies across all of our segments.
On the cost side, the <unk> business system continues to drive service improvements and cost efficiencies across all of our segments in the North American segment, our lean cultural transformation and operational efficiencies are contributing to improved service levels and customer satisfaction and safety metrics.
Speaker 3: And the North American segment, our lean cultural transformation and operational efficiencies are contributing to improve service levels, customer satisfaction and safety metrics.
Speaker 3: In the third quarter, customer satisfaction improved by approximately 40% over the previous year.
In the third quarter customer satisfaction improved by approximately 40% over the previous year.
Speaker 3: key driver this improvement was sequential and year on your reduction in customer claims, first touch resolution and time to resolution.
A key driver of this improvement with sequential and year on year reduction in customer claims first touch resolution and time to resolution.
Speaker 3: While we're not satisfied with where we are in our business improvement journey, I'm confident our North American leadership team has taken the proper steps to build a predictable improvement roadmap that balances growth, innovation, and profitability. The benefits of these.
While we're not satisfied with where we are in our business improvement journey I'm confident our north American leadership team has taken the proper steps to build a predictable improvement roadmap the balances growth innovation and profitability.
The benefits of these initiatives are clear in the P&L.
Speaker 3: Better customer service, combined with reduced employer turnover and increasing tenure in our employees, is driving meaningful improvement in labor expense as a percent of revenue in North America. In total, North America operating margins are of 200 basis points a year to date, and 240 basis points versus third quarter.
Better customer service combined with reduced employee turnover and increasing tenure in our employees is driving meaningful improvement in labor expense as a percent of revenue in North America.
And total North America operating margins are up 200 basis points year to date, and 240 basis points versus the third quarter.
Speaker 3: Turning to DRS and AMS, 24% organic growth over the last 12 months and 18% organic growth in the quarter was driven by strong volume growth and new customer additions in both product
Turning to Drs in Ams 24, 4% organic growth over the last 12 months and 18% organic growth in the quarter was driven by strong volume growth and new customer additions in both product offerings. This progress and allowed us to achieve our 2023 target of 20% of trailing 12 months.
Speaker 3: This progress has allowed us to achieve our 2023 target of 20% of trailing 12 month revenue, one full quarter in advance of where we originally expected it to be.
The new one full quarter in advance of where we originally expected it to be.
Speaker 3: In DRS, we had thousands of new locations in the quarter across each of the segments in a wide range of end markets, including gas stations, restaurants, grocery stores and retailers.
And D. R. S. We added thousands of new locations in the quarter across each of the segments and a wide range of end markets, including gas stations restaurants grocery stores and retailers.
Speaker 3: These additions include conversions of existing customers, as well as new customers, through both exclusive negotiations and competitive bids, as we expand our addressable mark.
These additions include conversions of existing customers as well as new customers through both exclusive negotiations and competitive bids as we expand our addressable market.
Speaker 3: Our Healthy Back Law of New Locations, Support our Revenue Outlook for future.
Our healthy backlog of new locations support our revenue outlook for future quarters.
Speaker 3: By providing working capital improvements and bank account simplification through our tech and able solutions, we are increasing the value proposition beyond our traditional safety and security offering. We are prioritizing our commercial efforts on upgrading our sales teams with a focus on solution-based selling.
By providing working capital improvements and bank account simplification through our tech enabled solutions, we are increasing the value proposition beyond our traditional safety and security offering.
We are prioritizing our commercial efforts on upgrading our sales teams with a focus on solution based selling.
Speaker 3: We continue to have success growing our DRS pipeline up sequentially and over prior year, representing millions of dollars in potential annual recurring revenue.
We continue to have success growing our Drs pipeline up.
Up sequentially and over prior year, representing millions of dollars in potential annual recurring revenue.
Speaker 3: In AMS, we are leveraging our existing networks around the world to add additional revenue and densities.
In Ams, we are leveraging our existing networks around the world to add additional revenue and density in.
Speaker 3: In France, we're planning the addition of two new banks onto our existing platform in early 2024. And the US were deploying new ATMs in a major regional convenience store chain that will improve both density and transaction volume.
In France, we are planning. The addition of two new banks onto our existing platform in early 2024, and the U S. We are deploying new Atms and a major regional convenience store chain that will improve both density and transaction volumes.
Speaker 3: AMS continues to gain momentum in Europe and the rest of the world. Where revenue mixed benefits of AMS and DRS are clearly visible in our margin.
Ams continues to gain momentum in Europe, and the rest of world, where revenue mixed benefits of a M. S. N. Drs are clearly visible in our margin performance year.
Speaker 3: You today operating margins in Europe are at 90 basis points and rest of world segment margins are up 30 basis points Despite the impact of the lower lower global services revenue. I mentioned earlier
Year to date operating margins in Europe are up 90 basis points and rest of World segment margins were up 30 basis points. Despite the impact of the lower lower global services revenue I mentioned earlier.
Speaker 3: We continue to wrap our pipeline globally with both financial institutions and independent ATM operators.
We continue to ramp our pipeline globally with both financial institutions and independent ATM operators.
Speaker 3: Latin America remains a significant opportunity for AMS in the medium and long term, and our business development teams continue to add multiple customer outsourcing pilot projects for evaluation.
Latin America remains a significant opportunity for Ams in the medium and long term and our business development teams continue to add multiple customer outsourcing pilot projects for evaluation.
Speaker 3: I prove point of our momentum is demonstrated by the recent award from a large multinational banking chile that plans to outsource its entire ATM network to us.
A proof point of our momentum as demonstrated by the recent award from a large multinational bank in Chile that plans to outsource its entire ATM network to us.
Speaker 3: I'm proud of the progress we've made in the operating model in the first nine months of 2023. By growing AMS and DRS and driving cost per activity through the Brinks of Business.
I'm proud of the progress we've made in the operating model in the first nine months of 2023 by growing Ams and Drs and driving cost productivity through the brakes business system.
Speaker 3: While the improvements in the business are clear in the financial results, I believe we're still in the early stages of our transformation and excited about the prospects that remain in front of us.
While the improvements in the business are clear in our financial results I believe we're still in the early stages of our transformation and excited about the prospects that remain in front of us.
Speaker 3: Before I head off to Kurt, I'd like to quickly recap our consolidated results on Slide 5.
Before I hand, it off to Curt I'd like to quickly recap our consolidated results on slide five.
Speaker 3: Organic growth of 6% was supplemented by 3% growth from acquisitions. FX was a headwind in the quarter of 1%, slightly more impactful than was expected given the strength of the dollar since their last earnings call.
Again, a growth of 6% was supplemented by 3% growth from acquisitions FX was a headwind in the quarter of 1% slightly more impactful than was expected given the strength of the dollar since our last earnings call.
Speaker 3: At the segment level, in North America, organic growth was slightly down due to lower revenue from our global services business, profitability enhancing customer portfolio optimization, and the impact of customer conversions from traditional CIT to DRS.
At the segment level in North America organic growth was slightly down due to lower revenue from our global services business profitability enhancing customer portfolio optimization and the impact of customer conversions from traditional sit to drs.
Speaker 3: Latin America delivered 24% growth and Europe was up organically 6% behind strong AMS and DRS growth.
Latin America delivered 24% growth in Europe was up organically, 6% behind strong Ams Drs growth.
Speaker 3: The rest of the world's segment had strong AMS and DRS growth as well. They did not fully offset the organic decline driven by the global services headwinds I mentioned earlier.
The rest of World segment had strong Ams and Drs growth as well that did not fully offset the organic decline driven by the global services headwinds I mentioned earlier.
Speaker 3: Operating profit margins were up 230 basis points, and adjusted EBITDA was up 220 basis points, driven by benefits from productivity, pricing, and better mix from volume growth in April .
Operating profit margins were up 230 basis points and adjusted EBITDA was up 220 basis points, driven by benefits from productivity pricing and better mix from.
From volume growth in Ams and Drs.
Speaker 3: $1.92 of EPS reflects higher operating profit and the benefits for better cash management, partially offset by higher interest.
$1.92 of EPS reflects higher operating profit and the benefits for better cash management, partially offset by higher interest expense.
Speaker 3: We remain on plan for the year and continue to deliver consistent operating results and build upon the momentum in AMS and DRS.
We remain on plan for the year and continue to deliver consistent operating results and build upon the momentum in Ams and Drs.
Speaker 3: I'm encouraged by our progress in the quarter and I'm excited about the future as we transform our business to a higher margin faster growing offerings and a performance driven culture that's focused on consistent operational improvements in service quality delivery and cost.
I'm encouraged by our progress in the quarter and I'm excited about the future as we transform our business to higher margin faster growing offerings and a performance driven culture that is focused on consistent operational improvements in service quality delivery and cost productivity.
Speaker 3: I'll now hand over Kurt who will lead us through the financial details in addition to more specifics on our free cash whip performance, capital allocation plans, and our rest of your guidance. I'll then return for a few closing...
I'll now hand, it over Curt who'll lead us through the financial details. In addition to more specifics on our free cash flow performance capital allocation plans and our rest of your guidance.
I will then return for a few closing comments.
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Speaker 4: Beginning on slide 6, organic growth was split roughly evenly between cash and valuables management and AMS DRF.
Beginning on slide six organic growth was split roughly evenly between cash and valuables management and Ams Drs.
Speaker 4: As a reminder, customers will move between these two organic lines as legacy customers convert from traditional CIT and ATM replenishment offerings into AMS and DRS offerings.
As a reminder, customers will move between these two organic lines as legacy customers convert from traditional CIT and ATM replenishment offerings into Ams Drs offerings. So.
Speaker 4: This was also the final quarter of acquisition revenue from Note Machine, which will roll into the organic result of AMS DRS starting next quarter.
So it was also the final quarter of acquisition revenue from note machine, which will roll into the organic result of Ams Drs starting next quarter.
Speaker 4: Organic revenue growth from pricing and AMS DRS volume was partially offset by translational FX headwinds, primarily in Latin America.
Organic revenue growth from pricing and Ams Drs volume was partially offset by translational FX headwinds primarily in Latin America.
Speaker 4: Shifting to operating profit, 72 million of organic revenue became 49 million of organic operating profit for an incremental margin of 68% in the quarter. The high flow through was driven by three main items.
Shifting to operating profit $72 million of organic revenue became $49 million of organic operating profit for an incremental margin of 68% in the quarter.
The high flow through was driven by three main items.
Speaker 4: First, cost productivity initiatives, leveraging the Brinks business system. Second, the benefits of revenue mix, now with 20% of revenue coming from AMS and DRS. And finally, the continued benefits of the restructuring program we announced in 2022.
First cost productivity initiatives, leveraging the <unk> business system.
Second the benefits of revenue mix now with 20% of revenue coming from Ams and Drs and finally, the continued benefits of the restructuring program, we announced in 2022.
Speaker 4: The court are also benefited from the lapping of a large loss event and other corporate expenses in the prior year that we don't expect to repeat in the coming quarter.
The quarter also benefited from the lapping of a large loss event and other corporate expenses in the prior year that we don't expect to repeat in the coming quarters.
Speaker 4: FX translation reduced operating profit by 15 million. The high flow through impact from currency was due to headwinds in the higher margin, Latin America segment, partially offset by benefits in the Europe segment.
FX translation reduced operating profit by $15 million the high flow through impact from currency was due to headwinds in our higher margin Latin America segment, partially offset by benefits in the Europe segment.
Speaker 4: Looking at the current effects rates, we expect this high margin flow through from effects to continue into the fourth quarter. Turning the eva-
Looking at the current FX rates, we expect this high margin flow through from FX to continue into the fourth quarter.
Turning to EBITDA and EPS on slide seven.
Speaker 4: Starting with our operating profit and walking left to right, third quarter interest expense of 54 million was up 19 million versus last year. Primarily due to expected higher interest.
Starting with our operating profit of walking left to right third quarter interest expense of 54 million was up 19 million versus last year.
Primarily due to expected higher interest rates year over year.
Speaker 4: Tax expenses were $41 million, with an effective tax rate of 30% in the quarter, down 30 basis points from our full year 2022 rate.
<unk> expenses were $41 million with an effective tax rate of 30% in the quarter down 30 basis points from our full year 2022 right.
Speaker 4: The category other of $18 million primarily relates to higher interest income as well as gains on the sale of certain marketable securities in the period as we position our assets to generate the best returns for our shareholders.
The category other of $18 million, primarily relates to higher interest income as well as gains on the sale of certain marketable securities in the period as we position our assets to generate the best returns for our shareholders.
Speaker 4: 91 million of income from continuing operations on a reduced weighted average share count of 47.1 million shares equates to $1.92 of earnings per share, up 39% over last year.
$91 million of income from continuing operations on a reduced weighted average share count of $47 1 million shares.
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Speaker 4: On the right side of the page, working back to EBITDA, depreciation and amortization were 53 million, up 8 million versus the prior year, do primarily to increase amortization from the Note Machine Act.
On the right side of the page working back to EBITDA, depreciation and amortization were $53 million up $8 million versus the prior year due primarily to increased amortization from the note machine acquisition.
Speaker 4: non-CAS stock-based compensation expense and other include the elimination of the marketable security gains I mentioned earlier as well as lower stock-based ?? nochke Platz das erstes.
Noncash stock based compensation expense and other includes the elimination of the marketable security gains I mentioned earlier as well as lower stock based compensation in the quarter.
Speaker 4: Third quarter adjusted EBITDA of 231 million and margin of 18.8% was the best third quarter in our recent history. As we continue to drive EBITDA margins towards our midterm goal of 20%.
Third quarter, adjusted EBITDA of $231 million and margin of 18, 8% was the best third quarter in our recent history as we continue to drive EBITDA margins towards our mid term goal of 20%.
Turning to free cash flow on slide eight.
Speaker 4: Looking at the chart on the left hand side of the slide, you can see that we are driving a step change in free castle generation.
Looking at the chart on the left hand side of this slide you can see that we are driving a step change in free cash flow generation.
Speaker 4: Training 12 month free cash flow is approximately 100 million better than any of the prior five years with conversion that is already over 40% of a just a deba-dot.
Trailing 12 month free cash flow was approximately $100 million better than any of the prior five years with conversion that is already over 40% of adjusted EBITDA.
Speaker 4: On the right hand side of this slide, you can see the drivers. At the midpoint of our guidance, Yvita is expected to grow about 100 million or 13% on the year. Margins have expanded 80 basis points year to date as we drive cost productivity through the Brink's businesses.
On the right hand side of this slide you can see the drivers at the midpoint of our guidance EBITDA is expected to grow about 100 million or 13% on a year.
Margins have expanded 80 basis points year to date as we drive cost productivity through the <unk> business system.
Speaker 4: As we execute our strategy for AMS and DRS, we are targeting capital expenditures that remain flat and dollar amount to the prior year. With over 20% of our revenue already under AMS and DRS contracts, we can leverage our asset base more efficiently, reducing stops, and increasing the capacity of our network without ramping investments in capital.
As we execute our strategy for Ams and Drs, we are targeting capital expenditures that remained flat in dollar amount to the prior year.
With over 20% of our revenue already under Ams and Drs contracts, we can leverage our asset base more efficiently, reducing stops and increasing the capacity of our network without ramping investments in capex.
Speaker 4: One of the areas we have seen the most progress this year is in working capital man.
One of the areas, we have seen the most progress this year and working capital management with.
Speaker 4: With the addition of free cash loads to our annual incentive plan, for the top 200 plus leaders in the organization, we have seen a shift in focus across most areas of working capital.
With the addition of free cash flow to our annual incentive plan for the top 200 plus leaders in the organization, we have seen a shift in focus across most areas of working capital.
Speaker 4: The primary of progress has been reducing accounts receivable by driving down day-sales outstanding or DSOs.
The primary of progress has been reducing accounts receivable by driving down days sales outstanding or Dsos.
Speaker 4: The ESOs were down sequentially and year over year in each of our segments of this quarter. Despite your-to-date revenue growth of 9%.
Dsos were down sequentially and year over year in each of our segments. This quarter despite year to date revenue growth of 9%.
Speaker 4: Our progress in these areas and the visibility we have to our cash interest and tax payments coming in the fourth quarter, give us the confidence to raise our full year expectations for free cash flow and conversion above the midpoint of our previous guidance.
Our progress in these areas and the visibility we have to our cash interest and tax payments coming in the fourth quarter gives us the confidence to raise our full year expectations for free cash flow and conversion above the midpoint of our previous guidance.
Speaker 4: I'm proud of the hard work that our teams are doing to deliver these results, and I'm confident that we have more opportunities in the coming years to continue to improve our free cash flow profile.
I am proud of the hard work that our teams are doing to deliver these results and I'm confident that we have more opportunities in the coming years to continue to improve our free cash flow profile.
Speaker 4: Turning to slide nine, let's review our capital allocation framework designed to maximize value creation for our shareholders.
Turning to slide nine let's review our capital allocation framework designed to maximize value creation for our shareholders.
Our priorities remain unchanged.
Speaker 4: Starting at the top, we have an attractive menu of organic investments that will increase revenue growth, profitability, and ultimately future free cash flow.
Starting at the top we have an attractive menu of organic investments that will increase revenue growth <unk>.
Profitability and ultimately future free cash flow.
Speaker 4: These investments are primarily optics related and are handled within our broader profit guys.
These investments are primarily opex related and are handled within our broader profit guidance.
Speaker 4: We are targeting cash cap-ex to remain below 4% of revenue for 2023. And as we discussed with AMS DRS growth, we believe we can leverage our existing assets across less stops and increase our capacity as we add new customers.
We are targeting cash capex to remain below 4% of revenue for 2023.
And as we discussed with Ams Drs growth, we believe we can leverage our existing assets across less stops and increase our capacity as we add new customers.
Speaker 4: Our leverage target remains two to three times adjusted EBITDA. In the third quarter, we reduced net debt by about 60 million, and our leverage by two tenths to reach the top end of our target of three times.
Our leverage target remains two to three times adjusted EBITDA.
In the third quarter, we reduced net debt by about $60 million and our leverage by two tenths to reach the top end of our target of three times.
Speaker 4: We expect to be below three times at the end of the year through additional EBITDA growth and continue free cash flow to money level4.
We expect to be below three times at the end of the year through additional EBITDA growth and continued free cash flow generation.
Speaker 4: In capital returns, your date we have completed 106 million of share.
And capital returns year to date, we have completed $106 million of share repurchases, which represents about half of the $216 million in free cash flow, we have generated so far this year.
Speaker 4: which represents about half of the 216 million and free cash flow we have generated so far this year.
Speaker 4: We plan to balance repurchases against our leverage target as we end the year, which will likely translate to fourth quarter repurchases slightly below the $88 million we completed in the third quarter.
We plan to balance repurchases against our leverage target as we end the year, which will likely translate to fourth quarter repurchases slightly below the 88 million, we completed in the third quarter.
Speaker 4: We continue to see share prefortuses at our current valuation as attractive. And we plan to remain active with our refurchase activities in the fourth quarter and beyond.
We continue to see share repurchases at our current valuation is attractive and we plan to remain active with our repurchase activities in the fourth quarter and beyond.
Speaker 4: The new 500 million authorization from our board supports our commitment to share repurchases beyond 2023. And we plan to execute the program through a combination of systematic purchases, as well as opportunistically when prices are attractive. On the M&A side.
The new 500 million authorization from our board supports our commitment to share repurchases beyond 2023, and we plan to execute the program through a combination of systematic purchases as well as opportunistically when prices are attractive.
On the M&A side, our philosophy remains the same.
Speaker 4: Given our size and brand presence in our industry, we are always evaluating strategic opportunities that can improve our business.
Given our size and brand presence in our industry, we are always evaluating strategic opportunities that can improve our business.
Speaker 4: Most of our targets are prioritized in the AMS-DRS space.
Most of our targets are prioritized in the Ams Drs space.
Speaker 4: These potential deals will be focused on acquiring digital capabilities that expand our organic growth opportunities in DRS or that add customers and expertise in ATM-managed service.
These potential deals will be focused on acquiring digital capabilities that expand our organic growth opportunities in drs or that add customers and expertise in ATM managed services.
Speaker 4: We expect these deals to fit within our current capital allocation priorities and free cash flow profile.
We expect these deals to fit within our current capital allocation priorities and free cash flow profile.
Speaker 4: In summary, we remain focused on the capital allocation priorities in our business that drive profitable growth and compound cash generation and ultimately maximize shareholder value.
In summary, we remain focused on the capital allocation priorities in our business that drive profitable growth and compound cash generation and ultimately maximize shareholder value.
Speaker 4: Turning to slide 10, you can see our guidance. The guidance accurately reflects our remaining opportunities in the year, balanced by economic uncertainty, the strengthening US dollar, and impacts of the dual wars in Europe .
Turning to slide 10, you can see our guidance.
<unk> accurately reflects our remaining opportunities in the year balanced by economic uncertainty the strengthening U S dollar and impacts of the dual awards in Europe.
Speaker 4: We expect revenue to be around the midpoint of our guidance with organic growth of approximately 9%.
We expect revenue to be around the midpoint of our guidance with organic growth of approximately 9%.
Speaker 4: Strong growth in AMS and DRS is expected to offset the impact of increasing foreign currency and BGS head.
Strong growth in Ams and Drs is expected to offset the impact of increasing foreign currency and Bds headwinds.
Speaker 4: Operating profit EBITDA and EPS improvement is driven by strong pricing, mixed benefits from AMS and DRS growth, cost productivity, and the benefits of restructuring actions announced in 2022.
Operating profit EBITDA and EPS improvement is driven by strong pricing mix benefits from Ams and Drs growth.
Cost productivity and the benefits of restructuring actions announced in 2022.
Speaker 4: These are expected to be partially outstepped by the margin impact from increasing FX translation head.
These are expected to be partially offset by the margin impact from increasing FX translation headwinds.
Speaker 4: The structural work and capital management improvements well underway and better line of sight to any additional cash payments in the fourth quarter. Precash flow is now expected to be between 350 and 375 million with conversion of at least 40%. With that, I'll turn it back over.
The structural working capital management improvements well underway and better line of sight to any additional cash payments in the fourth quarter free cash flow is now expected to be between 350 and $375 million with conversion of at least 40%.
With that I'll turn it back over to Mark for a few closing comments.
Speaker 3: As we approach the last few months of the year, we remain focused on fulfilling our commitment in the near term while continuing to advance our long-term strategy.
Thanks, Kurt as we approach the last few months of the year, we remain focused on fulfilling our commitments in the near term, while continuing to advance our long term strategy.
So far this year.
Speaker 3: We've improved the quality of our revenue with over 20% of our base now being in higher margin, AMS and DRS revenue. Second, we've improved our profitability to the global deployment of the Brinx business system, leveraging our lean culture.
We've improved the quality of our revenue with over 20% of our base now being in higher margin Ams Drs revenue second we.
We've improved our profitability through the global deployment of the <unk> business system, leveraging our lean culture.
Speaker 3: resulting in continued repeatable efficiency initiatives across our global business operations.
Resulting in continued repeatable efficiency initiatives across our global business operations and.
Speaker 3: And third, we've improved our cash generation by delivering cap exefficiency and diligent working capital management.
And third we have improved our cash generation, delivering capex efficiency and diligent working capital management.
Speaker 3: We continue to consistently deliver our commitments and I'm confident we remain on the right path. I look forward to building on the momentum we've generated and execute on our strategy into 2024 and beyond. Now. Now.
We continue to consistently deliver on our commitments and I am confident we remain on the right path I look forward to building on the momentum we've generated and execute on our strategy into 2024 and beyond.
Now, let's open up for questions.
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And the first question comes from George Tong with Goldman Sachs Hi.
Speaker 5: Hi, thanks. Good morning. You saw 4% organic growth in your cash and valuables management business in the quarter. Can you discuss how much of that growth came from pricing actions and how volumes progressed over the course of the quarter?
Hi, Thanks. Good morning, you saw 4% organic growth in your cash and valuables management business in the quarter can you discuss how much of that growth came from pricing actions and how volumes progressed over the course of the quarter.
Hey, George it's Curt.
Speaker 1: Uh, let me just kind of address the kind of the price volume mix, you know, we, and I think, you know, as we typically target the 50, 50 range for price, price, volume, and last year, we saw what we're seeing consistent this year is that we're heavier on the price versus the volume piece.
Let me just kind of address kind of the price volume mix.
And I think he knows we typically target the 50 50 range for price price volume.
And last year, we saw what we're seeing.
This year is that were heavier on the price versus the volume piece.
Speaker 4: We expect that to be the case for the full year. So it's really a consistent message. You know, in what's driving that as we continue to see inflation and the business that we are working overcome with price and make sure that we're not only overcoming the inflation but maintaining margins. I'd say too we continue to have, you know, really a lot of opportunities with strategic pricing going forward as we've talked about. And so we think that, you know, this continues going forward as we look ahead.
And we expect that to be the case for the full year.
So it's really a consistent message.
And what's driving that as we continue to see inflation in the business.
We are working to overcome with price and make sure that we're not only overcoming the inflation, but maintaining margins.
I'd say too we continue to have really a lot of opportunities with strategic pricing going forward as we've talked about and so we think that this continues going forward as we look ahead.
Speaker 3: hey jordice is mark on the other thing i would say is you know we think about the strategic pricing piece
Hey, Jordan. This is mark the only other thing I would say is as we think about the strategic pricing piece.
Speaker 3: You know, that's going to be, you know, as we look at different segments within specific markets.
That's going to be as we look at different segments within specific markets to ensure that we're getting equivalent returns customer to customer.
Speaker 3: to ensure that, you know, we're getting equivalent returns, you know, from customer to customer. I think the other thing that Kurt mentioned is, you know, inflation does continue to be, you know, persistent, you know, globally, and that's why, you know, our pricing posture continues to be strong there.
Curt mentioned inflation does continue to be persist.
Persistent.
Globally, and that's why our pricing posture continues to be strong there and frankly, we thought like most of that.
Speaker 3: And frankly, we thought, like most, that inflation would subside, and we thought, as we talked about in Q2 and in Q1, that our pricing might subside, but we would remain vigilant in the market in the event that inflation continued, and it has, and so have we.
Inflation would subside.
And we thought as we talked about in Q2 and in Q1 that our pricing might subside, but we would remain vigilant in the market in the event that inflation continued and it has and so heavily.
Speaker 5: Okay, got it. Just to clarify, of the 4% growth, is it the 50-50 split between price and volumes currently?
Okay got it just to clarify of.
The 4% growth is at the 50 50 split between price and volumes currently.
Speaker 5: No, it's not. It's skewed more heavily toward price. I think that was the same discussion we had in Q2. So, this is a takeaway, George. It's a consistent message. We haven't seen really a change. We expect that to be that way for the full year. Okay. And then what about the volume trends over the course of the quarter? Were they stable, improving, or inflecting lower? Sure.
No it's not.
Skewed.
More heavily toward price I think that was the.
The same discussion we had in Q2.
So the takeaway, Georgia consistent.
Message, we haven't seen really a change and we expect that to be that way for the full year.
Okay, and then what about the volume trends over the course of the quarter were they stable improving or.
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Speaker 3: just to do that. Maybe I can spend a little bit around the region George the regions to give you some color. You know first you know in North America we continue to see real good momentum in DRS.
Just to do that maybe I can spend a little bit around the region George the regions to give you some color.
First.
In North America.
We continued to see good momentum in Drs.
Speaker 3: and continue to have a healthy pipeline there. Pipelines I mentioned up 20%. And those activity and bookings continue to exceed prior quarter and prior year. So that's all good.
And continue to have a healthy pipeline there our pipeline as I mentioned up 20%.
And those add activity and bookings continue to exceed prior quarter and prior year. So that's all good obviously very strong margin improvements, we're very happy with that 200 bps year to date and 240 basis points.
Speaker 3: Obviously very strong margin improvements were very happy with that. You know 200 dips here today and 240 basis points. You know Q3 .
Q3 on Q3.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say we've seen demand change much in North America in the marketplace.
I wouldn't say, we've seen demand change much.
In North America in the marketplace although.
Speaker 3: Although I think what we did see was a very strong GDP print, which maybe in some cases you can see a little bit counterintuitive some of the retailers that you've seen out there. But from our side, we really haven't seen much demand change. The other good thing here is our leadership team is clicking very well here in the region. LATAM, again, a good pricing market, you know, a lot of inflation in that market, particularly as you think about
I think what we did see was a very strong GDP print.
Which may be in some cases, you can see a little bit counterintuitive some of the retailers that you've seen out there, but from our side, we really haven't seen much demand change.
Thing here is our leadership team is is clicking very well here in the region Latam again, a good pricing market.
A lot of inflation in that market, particularly as it is.
Think about.
Speaker 3: you know, for an exchange and the impacts there. But certainly, you know, we're seeing markets that, you know, have really good penetration, DRS continues to be healthy. We've got several large customers or doing AMS pilots with us today where we actually have, you know, full stack services in pilot of multiple ATM units.
Foreign exchange and the impacts there, but certainly we're seeing markets that have really good penetration Drs continues to be healthy we've got several large customers or do at Ams pilots with us today, where we actually have full stack services in pilot of multi.
ATM units two to continue to drive there we are seeing a little bit as we mentioned in Q1 and Q2 continue to see some.
Speaker 3: to continue to drive there. We are seeing a little bit, as we mentioned in Q1AQ2, continues to see some economic headwinds, let's say in Brazil, been well documented, I think, as they've lowered interest rates and continued to...
Economic headwinds lets say in Brazil been well documented I think.
Sure.
And interest rates and continue to.
Speaker 3: you know, try to manage, you know, their physical policies there. You know, some obviously some.
Try to manage their physical policies there.
Some obviously some continued as I mentioned in the comments continued weakness in our global services business, which is really precious metals around the world.
Speaker 3: I mentioned in the comments continued weakness in our global services business, which is really precious metals around the world. That's been equally, let's say, soft, our softer than we expected.
It's been equally let's say.
Soft or softer than we expected.
Speaker 3: You know, with the movement of gold, silver, you know, kind of central bank movements. But but again, those are all, you know, ebbs and flows that we see in this business from time to time in Europe , things going very well, despite some of the reports, I'd say, on, you know, their GDP, DRS, AMS continue to grow. Well, we continue to, as I talked about, we're adding two new banks on to our network in France, which is, you know, again.
With the movement of gold silver kind of central bank movements, but but again those are all.
Ebbs and flows that we see in this business from time to time in Europe things going very well. Despite some of the reports I'd say on that.
Their GDP Drs Ams continued to grow well we continue to.
As I talked about we're adding two new banks onto our network in France, which is again.
Speaker 3: really good reinforcement of our strategy, but also of our execution. And I think that's something we're going to be proud of.
Really good reinforcement.
Our strategy, but also of our execution and I think thats something.
We are going to be proud of.
Speaker 3: And in rest of the world, that segment, again, probably the highest mix of global services business in that region, whether that's mining or central bank movements of currency and also exchange is moving gold and silver. And so that's one area where, again, we've seen the kind of macro weakness with that. All that being said,
And then rest of world that segment again.
Probably the highest mix of global services business in that region, whether that's mining or central bank movements of.
Of currency and also exchange is moving gold and silver and so that's one area, where again, we've seen the kind of macro weakness.
All that being said largely China has been a big big player.
Speaker 3: you know, largely China's been a big, big player of impact, let's say, on all of the movements.
Impact, let's say on <unk>.
All of the movements in the region.
Speaker 3: Unbalanced though, we feel like from what we can see looking into fourth quarter, and you've seen our guidance reflects that. We think we've got the right amount of AMS and DRS growth as well as our core business growth to offset that softness to again continue in the documentment.
On balance, though we feel like.
From what we can see looking into fourth quarter.
And you've seen our guidance reflects that we think we've got the right amount of Ams Drs growth as well as our core business growth to offset that softness to again continue to meet our commitments.
Speaker 5: Got it very helpful. And then a quick follow up on the cost side, productivity cost initiatives contributed to 200 bits of margin expansion in the quarter. Can you elaborate on additional levers to drive productivity gains in which geographies you're focusing most of your efforts on to improve March?
Got it very helpful. And then a quick follow up on the cost side productivity and cost initiatives contributed.
200 bps of margin expansion in the quarter can you elaborate on additional levers to drive productivity gains and in which geographies youre focusing most of your efforts on to improve margins.
Speaker 3: Sure, I'd say we're focused everywhere, George, and one of the biggest levers for us, again, as we've talked about, is this shift of our business model from a...
Sure I'd say, where we're focused everywhere, Georgia and one of the biggest.
Levers for US again as we've talked about is this shift of our business model from a scheduled pickups in services to managed services environment, whether that's with Atms or whether thats in the in the retail environment with Drs. Those are as we drive more penetration there we continue to not only create more productivity.
Speaker 3: pickups and services to a managed services environment. Whether that's with ATMs or whether that's in the retail environment with DRS.
Speaker 3: Those are, as we drive more penetration there, we can continue to...
Speaker 3: not only create more productivity, i.e. more revenue across our existing cost base, but also allows us to be more efficient with our CapEx as we go forward.
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Speaker 3: significant lever. Again, we've mentioned last quarter is the stabilization of our of our labor force. And that really is
Significant lever again, we've mentioned last quarter is the stabilization of our.
Of our Labor force and that really is predominantly a north America issue, but we see that in other markets as well, where we've been able to create more tenure with employees that allows us to drive more productivity and frankly avoid the churn of hiring and retraining of employees.
Speaker 3: predominantly in North America issue, but we see that in other markets as well, where we've been able to...
Speaker 3: create more tenure with employees uh... that allows us to drive more productivity and and frankly you know avoid the churn of hiring and uh... retraining uh... employees
Speaker 5: Got it. Very helpful. Thank you. Great. Thanks, George.
Got it very helpful. Thank you.
Great. Thanks George.
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And our next question comes from Tobey Sommer with Trust.
Speaker 6: Hey, good morning. This is Jack Wilson on for Toby Summer. Hey, good morning. Morning. So I have a quick question about a couple of sort of one-time events, sort of the heist in Canada went on. Would that be a 4Q impact? And then sort of looking at the 2024 with sort of the additions made in France, can we expect the Olympics to be a sort of one-time driver in the summer?
Hey, Good morning. This is Jack Wilson on for Tobey Sommer.
Hey, good morning.
So quick question a couple of sort of one time events sort of the highest in Canada went on would that be up for Q impact and then sort of looking at the 2024 with sort of the additions made in France can we expect the olympics to be sort of one time driver in the summer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Jack, let me make sure I understand the question on the Toronto situation. So that was something that impacted our Q2 result.
Yes, So Jack let me make sure I understand the question on the on the Toronto situations. So that was something that impacted our Q2 results.
Speaker 4: We had an event last year in Q3 that was in Los Angeles that impacted our Q3 results. So we have a year over year lower loss impact. One reason why you're seeing a lower corporate cause come through on the quarter. But I want to make sure I'm addressing your question.
We had an event last year in Q3 that was in Los Angeles that impacted our Q3 results. So we have a year over year lower loss impact.
One reason why youre seeing a lower corporate cost come through in the quarter, but I want to make sure I'm addressing your question.
Speaker 6: So I was more and more reers to the ill lawsuit that those was filed in.
So it was more in reference to the lawsuit that was filed in October.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so simply with that is, you know, like we do in every situation, we're really just trying to, you know, pursue recovery, but we don't comment on ongoing cases.
Yeah, so simply what that is.
Like we do in every situation and we're really just trying to.
Pursue recovery, but we don't comment on ongoing cases.
Speaker 4: But maybe to answer, any costs that would be a part of that are fully contemplated in our outlook for Q4. And we do not have any recovery in our outlook for Q4.
But maybe to answer any cost it would be our <unk>.
Part of that are fully contemplated in our and our outlook for Q4, and we do not have any recovery in our outlook for Q4.
Okay that makes sense.
Second one for Neil.
Speaker 3: Yeah, second question was the Olympics. Yeah, I'll I'll take down. This is mark. Uh, yeah, certainly we would expect, you know, more, um,
Second question was the Olympics, yes, I'll take that and this is mark.
Yes, certainly we would expect more.
Speaker 3: you know, more traffic, more travel, um, you know, into France, particularly as a localized impact for our business, you know, I don't know how much that would impact the broader, uh, continent, but certainly in France, we would expect to see, um, yeah, increased activity and increased volumes, um, you know, during those periods and leading up to those periods.
More traffic more travel.
Into France, particularly as a localized impact for our business I don't know how much that would impact the broader continent, but certainly in France, we would expect to see.
The increased activity and increased volumes.
During those periods and leading up to those periods.
Speaker 3: Thank you. Particularly around the ATM managed services space.
Thank you.
Particularly particularly around the ATM managed services space.
Speaker 6: Thank you for that color there. I'm in sort of on the AMS and DRS front. So we've mentioned it reached a over 20% in the twilight trailing 12 month revenue. Is there sort of a ceiling on that that you see in the near term and maybe the long term as a share of total revenue?
Okay. Thanks for that color, there and then sort of on the Ams Drs front. So you mentioned <unk> reached a point over 20% in the trailing 12 months revenue is there sort of a ceiling on that that you see in the near term and maybe the long term and the share of total revenue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't see that. In fact, we, we expect to continue to march that number up as we, you know, that's, that's our focused area. It's where our preferred services, you know, would be, listen, we'd love to be. A hundred percent. Uh, I don't know that that's, uh, you know, always going to be possible because certain customers will, will want certain, you know, some of these specific services.
Yes, no I don't see that in fact, we expect to continue to March that number up as we.
Our focused area, where our preferred services would be listen we'd love to be 100%.
Don't know that Thats.
You're always going to be possible because certain customers will once some of these specific services, but we expect that number to continue to grow and maybe it bumps up and down along the way.
Speaker 3: But we expect that number to continue to grow, and maybe it bumps up and down along the way.
Speaker 3: a point or two up, a point or two down, but we think that the continued upward trajectory you know would be you know again going up and penetrating a higher percentage of our business. You know maybe you could see some
A point or two off a point or two down, but we think that the continued upward trajectory would be.
Again going up in penetrating a higher percentage of our business, maybe you could see some seasonality in Q4 just given.
Speaker 3: Seasonality in Q4, just given...
Speaker 3: you know the retail environment there's not a whole lot of work it's done in stores you know during the the shopping season of around Christmas you know maybe in particularly in in you know Latin America you you know North America in Europe maybe in Asia similar around Chinese New Year that you might see that you know bump around but but nothing that we would say would would be that wouldn't continue to take us upward.
The retail environment Theres not a whole lot of work gets done in stores during the shopping season around Christmas.
Maybe any particularly in.
Latin America, North America, and Europe, maybe in Asia, similar around Chinese new year that you might see that bump around but but nothing that we would say would be.
That wouldn't continue to take us upward trajectory.
So no ceiling.
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