Q3 2023 Donegal Group Inc Earnings Call - Pre-Recorded
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Speaker 1: Please be advised that today's conference was prerecorded and all participants are in listen only mode.
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Please be advised that today's conference was pre recorded and all participants are in listen only mode.
Operator: Please be advised that today's conference was prerecorded and all participants are in listen only mode. After management's prepared remarks, there will be a prerecorded question and session for responses to several questions submitted ahead of the call. Note that we have incorporated responses for many of the questions we received directly into management remarks.
After management's prepared remarks, there'll be a prerecorded question and answer session for responses. Just several questions submitted ahead of the call note that we have incorporated responses for many of the questions we receive directly into management's remarks.
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Speaker 1: After management's prepared remarks, there will be a prerecorded question and antistration for responses to several questions submitted ahead of the call. Note that we have incorporated responses for many of the questions we received directly into management's remarks.
Speaking today will be president and Chief Executive Officer, Kevin Burke, Chief Financial Officer, Jeff Miller, Chief Underwriting Officer, Jeff, Hey, and Chief Investment Officer, Tony B Aussie.
Operator: Speaking today, we'll be president and chief executive officer Kevin Burke, chief financial officer Jeff Miller, chief underwriting officer Jeff Hay, and chief investment officer Tony Villazi. Please be aware that statements made during this call that are not historical facts are forward looking statements and necessarily involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results too very materially. These factors can be found in Donnagle Group's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including its annual report on form 10K and quarterly reports on form 10Q.
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Speaker 1: Speaking today, we'll be president and chief executive officer Kevin Burke, chief financial officer Jeff Miller, chief underwriting officer Jeff Haye, and chief investment officer Tony Villazi.
Please be aware that statements made during this call that are not historical facts are forward looking statements and necessarily involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to vary materially. These factors can be found in Donegal group's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including its annual report on form.
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Speaker 1: Please be aware that statements made during this call that are not historical facts are forward looking statements and necessarily involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to very materially.
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Speaker 1: These factors can be found in Donable Group's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including its annual report on Form 10K and quarterly reports on Form 10Q.
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Speaker 1: The company disclaims any obligation to update or publicly announce the results of any revisions that they may make to any forward-looking statements to reflect the occurrence of anticipated or unanticipated events or circumstances after the date of such statement.
Operator: The company disclaims any obligation to update or publicly announce the results of any revisions that they may make to any forward looking statements to reflect the occurrence of anticipated or unanticipated events or circumstances after the date of such statements.
With that it's my pleasure to turn it over to Mr. Kevin Burke Kevin.
Kevin Burke: With that, it's my pleasure to turn it over to Mr. Kevin Burke. Kevin? Thank you, Karen, and welcome, everyone.
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Speaker 1: With that, it's my pleasure to turn it over to Mr. Kevin Burke. Kevin?
Thank you Karen and welcome everyone.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Chairman, and welcome, everyone. We are pleased to provide an update today on many of the strategic initiatives we have in flight, as we execute an intentional strategy to improve our financial performance, modernize our operations, and put us in a position to grow profitably as economic conditions begin to stabilize.
We're pleased to provide an update today on many of the strategic initiatives we have in flow.
Kevin Burke: We are pleased to provide an update today on many of the strategic initiatives we have in flight as we execute an intentional strategy to improve our financial performance, modernize our operations, and put us in a position to grow profitably as economic conditions begin to stabilize. Donnagle's third quarter of 2023 showed significant disparity between business segments. While we saw significant improvement in our commercial line segment, our personal line segment results continue to reflect the ongoing impact of inflationary pressures in several lines of business, with the largest impact in personal automobile.
As we execute an intentional strategy to improve our financial performance modernize our operations and put us in a position to grow profitably as economic conditions begin to stabilize.
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Speaker 2: Donables 3rd quarter of 2023 showed significant disparity between business segments. While we saw significant improvement in our commercial line segment, our personal line segment results continue to reflect the ongoing impact of inflationary pressures in several lines of business, with the largest impact in personal automobile. As claims severity remained at historical high levels, due primarily to higher repair and replacement costs. We experienced an increase in the frequency of severe weather events throughout our regions during the quarter.
Severity remained at historical high levels, due primarily to higher repair and replacement costs.
Kevin Burke: As claims severity remained at historical high levels due primarily to higher repair and replacement costs. We experienced an increase in the frequency of severe weather events throughout our regions during the quarter. None of these events generated an accumulation of losses that exceeded our catastrophic retention level. But the active weather patterns coupled with ongoing inflationary impacts on repair and labor costs generated the highest weather-related loss ratio we reported in any quarterly report going back to 2018.
We experienced an increase in the frequency of severe weather events throughout our regions during the quarter. None of these events generated an accumulation of losses that exceeded our catastrophic retention level, but the active weather patterns, coupled with ongoing inflationary impacts on repair and labor costs generated the highest weather related loss ratio we.
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Speaker 2: None of these events generated an accumulation of losses that exceeded our catastrophic retention level. But the active weather patterns coupled with ongoing inflationary impacts on repair and labor costs generated the highest weather-related loss ratio we reported in any quarterly report going back to 2018.
Reported in any quarterly report going back to 2018 on a positive note. We saw a significant decline in large commercial fire losses in the third quarter of 2023 as well as an improvement in our core loss ratios in each of the major commercial lines of business, Jeff Hey, We will provide further details on our individuals' segment.
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Speaker 2: On a positive note, we saw a significant decline in large commercial fire losses in the third quarter of 2023, as well as an improvement in our core loss ratios in each of the major commercial lines of business. Jeff Hay will provide further details on our individual segment and line of business results later in the call.
Kevin Burke: On a positive note, we saw a significant decline in large commercial fire losses in the third quarter of 2023, as well as an improvement in our core loss ratios in each of the major commercial lines of business.
Kevin Burke: Jeff Hay will provide further details on our individual segment and line of business results later in the call. Moving to business drivers impacting premium revenues, we began non-renewing all commercial policies in the states of Georgia and Alabama during the third quarter, which was the start of a process that will continue over the next several quarters that we expect will have significant favorable impact on our operating results moving forward. The primary strategy we are deploying to offset the loss of top line revenue in those states is to emphasize and promote our brand new bot product and modernize commercial auto and commercial umbrella products, which are available on our new technology platform in all the 22 states in which we offer commercial lines.
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Moving to business drivers impacting premium revenues, we began non renewing all commercial policies in the states of Georgia, and Alabama during the third quarter, which was the start of a process that will continue over the next several quarters that we expect will have significant favorable impact on our operating results moving forward.
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Speaker 2: Moving to business drivers impacting premium revenues, we began non-renewing all commercial policies in the states of Georgia and Alabama during the third quarter, which was the start of a process that will continue over the next several quarters that we expect will have significant favorable impact on our operating results moving forward. The primary strategy we are deploying to offset the loss of top-line revenue in those states is to emphasize and promote our brand new bot product and modernize commercial auto and commercial umbrella products, which are available on our new technology platform in all the 22 states in which we offer commercial lines.
Their primary strategy, we are deploying to offset the loss of top line revenue in those states is to emphasize and promote our brand new BOP product and modernized commercial auto and commercial umbrella products, which are available on our new technology platform and all the 22 states in which we offer commercial lines. We are actively monitoring code.
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Speaker 2: We are actively monitoring code activity, engaging with our agents and refining our pricing and straight through processing guidelines to increase our writings of small commercial accounts, and targeted geographies, industries, and classes that we believe will be the primary driver of profitable growth over the next few years.
Activity engaging with our agents and refining our pricing and straight through processing guidelines to increase our writings of small commercial accounts and targeted geographies industries and classes that we believe will be the primary driver of profitable growth over the next few years.
Kevin Burke: We are actively monitoring code activity, engaging with our agents and refining our pricing and straight through processing guidelines to increase our writings of small commercial accounts in targeted geographies, industries and classes that we believe will be the primary driver of profitable growth over the next few years. In the last quarter, I mentioned our commercial under any team would begin to shift their attention to the development of our last major commercial systems modernization initiative that will include a new commercial package policy and modernize the other commercial products remaining on our legacy systems.
In the last quarter I mentioned, our commercial under any team will begin to shift their attention to the development of our last major commercial systems modernization initiative that will include a new commercial package policy and modernize the other commercial products remaining on our legacy systems preliminary planning meetings have already begun in preparation for that major software release.
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Speaker 2: In the last quarter, I mentioned our commercial under any team would begin to ship their attention to the development of our last major commercial systems modernization initiative. That will include a new commercial package policy and modernize the other commercial products remaining on our legacy systems.
Kevin Burke: Preliminary planning meetings have already begun in preparation for that major software release with the start of development activities planned for early 2024 for the deployment in the second half of 2025. Conversion of legacy personal lines renewals to the new operating platform will begin in early 2024 and continue incrementally over the next few years. We conducted our third annual state strategy sessions in August and we had excellent participation and engagement by our home office and regional leadership as we evaluated our performance and developed specific action plans at a state level and in some cases at a county level.
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Speaker 2: Preliminary planning meetings have already begun in preparation for that major software release. With the start of development activities planned for early 2024, for the deployment in the second half of 2025. Conversion of legacy personal lines for NULES to the new operating platform will begin in early 2024 and continue incrementally over the next few years.
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Conversion of legacy personal lines renewals to the new operating platform will begin in early 2024 and continue incrementally over the next few years.
We conducted our third annual state strategy sessions in August and we had excellent participation and engagement by our home office and regional leadership as we evaluated our performance in developed specific action plans at a state level and in some cases at a county level. This information will be used as the basis to form our 2024.
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Speaker 2: We conducted our third annual state strategy sessions in August , and we had excellent participation and engagement by our home office and regional leadership. As we evaluated our performance and developed specific action plans at a state level and in some cases at a county level, this information will be used as the basis to form our 2024 business plan that will guide highly coordinated marketing and underwriting activities in each region.
Kevin Burke: This information will be used as the basis to form our 2024 business plan that will guide highly coordinated marketing and underwriting activities in each region. We also hosted an event for our top performing agents in September to inform them of our business plan and growth strategies and to solicit their feedback and perspectives as we collectively navigate challenging market and economic conditions. We walked away with solidified commitments to deepen our relationships and to continue to grow our premium with these key agency partners.
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We also hosted an event for our top performing agents in September to inform them of our business plan and growth strategies and to solicit their feedback and perspectives as we collectively navigate challenging market and economic conditions.
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Speaker 2: We also hosted an event for our top-reforming agents in September to inform them of our business plan and growth strategies and to solicit their feedback and perspectives as we collectively navigate challenging market and economic conditions. We walked away with solidified commitments to deepen our relationships and to continue to grow our premium with these key agency partners.
We walked away with solidified commitments to deepen our relationships and to continue to grow our premium with these key agency partners.
As we plan ahead for 2024 and beyond we have all the building blocks in place to achieve and maintain rate adequacy and to begin to capture additional market share within our current geographical footprint, we have a clear view of our target classes and customers in both commercial and personal lines and we have significant analytical reporting tools.
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Speaker 2: As we plan ahead for 2024 and beyond, we have all the building blocks in place to achieve a maintained rate adequacy and to begin to capture additional market share within our current geographical footprint.
Kevin Burke: As we plan ahead for 2024 and beyond we have all the building blocks in place to achieve a maintained rate adequacy and to begin to capture additional market share within our current geographical footprint. We have a clear view of our target classes and customers in both commercial and personal lines and we have significant analytical reporting tools to help us monitor and manage our growth versus our plans and expectations in order to optimize our risk profile and improve consistency in our underwriting profitability over time.
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Speaker 2: We have a clear view of our target classes and customers in both commercial and personal lines. And we have significant analytical reporting tools to help as monitor and manage our growth versus our plans and expectations in order to optimize our risk profile and improve consistency in our underwriting profitability over time.
To help us monitor and manage our growth versus our plans and expectations in order to optimize our risk profile and improved consistency in our underwriting profitability over time.
We recently held an all employee meeting at which I emphasized to our entire team over the past several years, we have developed detailed strategies and successfully built an infrastructure, including talent systems and tools to enable our future growth and margin expansion.
Kevin Burke: We recently held an all-employee meeting at which I emphasized to our entire team over the past several years we have developed detailed strategies and successfully built an infrastructure, including talent systems and tools to enable our future growth and margin expansion. Now it's all about execution and the level of success we achieve over the next few years will be determined by our team's collective ability to execute on our strategies using all of the tools and capabilities at our disposal.
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Speaker 2: We recently held an all-employee meeting at which I emphasized to our entire team over the past several years, we have developed detailed strategies and successfully built an infrastructure, including talent, systems, and tools to enable our future growth and margin expansion. Now it's all about execution. In the level of success we achieve over the next few years, we'll be determined by our team's collective ability to execute on our strategies, using all of the tools and capabilities at our disposal. I look forward to updating you on our progress in future calls. At this point I'll turn a call over to Jeff Miller for a review of our financial results.
Now, it's all about execution and the level of success, we achieve over the next few years will be determined by our team's collective ability to execute on our strategies using all of the tools and capabilities at our disposal I look forward to updating you on our progress in future calls.
Kevin Burke: I look forward to updating you on our progress in future calls.
At this point I'll turn the call over to Jeff Miller for a review of our financial results.
Jeff Miller: At this point I'll turn a call over to Jeff Miller for a review of our financial results. Thanks, Kevin. Net premiums earned increased 8.9% to $224.4 million for the third quarter of 2023. Net premiums written increased by 6.3% with accelerating premium rate increases and strong retention offset partially by lower new business volume and planned attrition in states we are exiting or have targeted for profit improvement. Rate increases achieved during the third quarter were in double digit percentages for all major lines of business except workers' compensation, averaging 11.8% overall and 13.4% excluding workers' comp.
Thanks, Kevin net premiums earned increased eight 9% to $224 $4 million for the third quarter of 2023.
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Speaker 3: Thanks, Kevin. Net premiums earned increased 8.9% to $224.4 million for the third quarter of 2023. Net premiums retains increased by 6.3% with accelerating premium rate increases and strong retention offset partially by lower new business volume and planned attrition in states we are exiting or have targeted for profit improvement. Rate increases achieved during the third quarter were in double digit percentages for all major lines of business except workers compensation averaging 11.8% overall and 13.4% excluding workers comp.
Net premiums written increased by six 3% with accelerating premium rate increases and strong retention offset partially by lower new business volume and planned attrition in states, we are exiting or have targeted for profit improvement.
Rate increases achieved during the third quarter were in double digit percentages for all major lines of business, except workers' compensation, averaging 11, 8% overall and 13, 4% excluding workers' comp.
The combined ratio of 104, 5% for the third quarter of 2023 was a significant improvement from the 109, 6% combined ratio for the prior year quarter with both periods, reflecting elevated weather related losses.
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Speaker 3: The combined ratio of 104.5% for the third quarter of 2023 was a significant improvement from the 109.6% combined ratio for the prior year quarter with both periods reflecting elevated weather-related losses. Our core loss ratio decreased by over 4 percentage points from the prior year quarter, and the remaining improvement related to a significant decline in large commercial fire losses was partially offset by higher weather-related losses. Weather-related losses were 25.7 million dollars or 11.5% of the loss ratio for the third quarter of 2023 compared to 19.4 million dollars or 9.4% for the third quarter of 2022.
Jeff Miller: The combined ratio of 104.5% for the third quarter of 2023 was a significant improvement from the 109.6% combined ratio for the prior year quarter with both periods reflecting elevated weather related losses. Our core loss ratio decreased by over 4 percentage points from the prior year quarter and the remaining improvement related to a significant decline in large commercial fire losses that was partially offset by higher weather related losses. Weather related losses were 25.7 million dollars or 11.5 percentage points of the loss ratio for the third quarter of 2023 compared to 19.4 million dollars or 9.4 percentage points for the third quarter of 2022.
Our core loss ratio decreased by over four percentage points from the prior year quarter and the remaining improvement related to a significant decline in large commercial fire losses that was partially offset by higher weather related losses.
Weather related losses were $25 7 million or 11, five percentage points over the loss ratio for the third quarter of 2023 compared to $19 4 million or nine four percentage points for the third quarter of 2022.
The weather impact was heavily weighted toward the homeowners line of business with $16 1 million of losses, contributing 49, two percentage points to the third quarter homeowners' loss ratio.
Jeff Miller: The weather impact was heavily weighted toward the homeowners line of business with 16.1 million dollars of losses contributing 49.2 percentage points to the third quarter homeowners' loss ratio. The impact commercial property was 8.8 million dollars or 17.5 points of that line's loss ratio. Our insurance subsidiaries did not incur losses from any single event that exceeded their $3 million catastrophe re-insurance retention with donical mutual during the third quarter. Higher frequency of localized storm events drove the total quarterly weather claim impact higher than the previous five-year average of 9.3 percentage points for the third quarter.
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Speaker 3: The weather impact was heavily weighted toward the homeowner's line of business with $16.1 million of losses contributing 49.2 percentage points to the third quarter homeowner's loss ratio. The impact commercial property was $8.8 million, where 17.5 points of that line's loss ratio.
The impact commercial property was $8 8 million or 17, five points of that lines loss ratio or.
Our insurance subsidiaries did not incur losses from any single event that exceeded their $3 million catastrophe reinsurance retention with Donegal mutual during the third quarter.
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Speaker 3: Our insurance subsidiaries did not incur losses from any single event that exceeded their $3 million catastrophe-reinsurance retention with Donnacle Mutual during the third quarter. Higher frequency of localized storm events drove the total quarterly weather claim impact higher than the previous five-year average of 9.3 percentage points for the third quarter.
Higher frequency of localized storm events drove the total quarterly weather claim impact higher than the previous five year average of nine three percentage points for the third quarter.
Large fire losses, which we define as over $50000 in damages contributed four nine percentage points to the loss ratio for the third quarter of 2023, which was substantially lower than eight four percentage points for the prior year quarter.
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Speaker 3: Large fire losses, which we define as over $50,000 in damages, contributed 4.9 percentage points to the loss ratio for the third quarter of 2023, which was substantially lower than 8.4 percentage points for the prior year quarter. A large decline in commercial fire losses resulted from lower claim frequency and severity compared to the prior year quarter.
Jeff Miller: Large fire losses, which we define as over $50,000 in damages, contributed 4.9 percentage points to the loss ratio for the third quarter of 2023, which was substantially lower than 8.4 percentage points for the prior year quarter. A large decline in commercial fire losses resulted from lower claim frequency and severity compared to the prior year quarter. Our insurance subsidiaries experienced net favorable development of reserves for losses incurred in prior accident years of $7.3 million or a 3.3 point reduction in the loss ratio for the third quarter of 2023 compared to $6.2 million or a 3.0 point reduction in the loss ratio for the prior year quarter. Specific line of business detail included favorable development of $3.4 million for commercial auto, $2.7 million for personal auto, and $1.3 million in other commercial, which is primarily commercial umbrella. Spread across accident years 2019 through 2022.
A large decline in commercial fire losses resulted from lower claim frequency and severity compared to the prior year quarter.
Our insurance subsidiaries experienced net favorable development of reserves for losses incurred in prior accident years of $7 $3 million for a three three point reduction in the loss ratio for the third quarter 2023, compared to $6 $2 million or a 3.0 point reduction in the loss ratio for the prior.
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Speaker 3: Our insurance subsidiaries experienced net favorable development of reserves for losses incurred in prior accident years of $7.3 million or a 3.3 point reduction in the loss ratio for the third quarter of 2023 compared to $6.2 million or a 3.0 point reduction in the loss ratio for the prior year quarter. Specific wine of business detail included favorable development of $3.4 million for commercial auto, $2.7 million for personal auto, and $1.3 million in other commercial, which is primarily commercial umbrella. Spread across accident years 2019 through 2022.
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Specific line of business detail included favorable development of $3 4 million for commercial auto $2 $7 million for personal auto and $1 $3 million in other commercial which is primarily commercial umbrella spread across accident years 2019 through 2022.
The expense ratio of 34, 1% for the third quarter of 2023 increased modestly compared to 33, 4% for the prior year quarter.
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Speaker 3: The expense ratio of 34.1% for the third quarter of 2023 increased modestly compared to 33.4% for the prior year quarter.
Jeff Miller: The expense ratio of 34.1% for the third quarter of 2023 increased modestly compared to 33.4% for the prior year quarter. The increased primarily reflected higher technology costs related to our ongoing systems modernization initiatives. As I've mentioned in prior calls, we expect the expense ratio impact of our multi-year systems modernization project to peak in 2024, representing around 1.5 percentage points of our expense ratio next year, and then beginning to subside gradually in subsequent years.
The increase primarily reflected higher technology costs related to our ongoing systems modernization initiatives.
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Speaker 3: The increased primarily reflected higher technology costs related to our ongoing systems modernization initiatives. As I've mentioned in prior calls, we expect the expense ratio impact of our multi-year systems modernization project to peak in 2024, representing around 1.5 percentage points of our expense ratio next year, and then beginning to subside gradually in subsequent years.
As I've mentioned in prior calls we expect the expense ratio impact of our multi year systems modernization project to peak in 2024, representing around one five percentage points of our expense ratio next year, and then beginning to subside gradually in subsequent years, starting in 2020, our insurance subsidiaries have rich.
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Speaker 3: Starting in 2020, our insurance subsidiaries have received allocations of their proportions share of the cost Donaco Mutual has incurred based on their respective premium revenues. The costs related to a major software release are spread evenly over a five-year period, beginning at the point when the software release is first deployed into production.
Jeff Miller: Starting in 2020, our insurance subsidiaries have received allocations of their proportions share of the cost. Donagle mutual has incurred based on their respective premium revenues. The costs related to a major software release are spread evenly over a five-year period beginning at the point when the software release is first deployed into production.
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Costs related to a major software release are spread evenly over a five year period, beginning at the point when the software releases first deployed into production.
In summary, we essentially had a breakeven quarter as the underwriting loss, we incurred offset investment income earned for the third quarter of 2023.
Jeff Miller: In summary, we essentially had a break even quarter as the underwriting loss we incurred offset investment income earned for the third quarter of 2023. While far from our targeted level of profitability, the quarterly result was a significant improvement compared to the $10.4 million net loss for the third quarter of 2022.
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Speaker 3: In summary, we essentially had a break even quarter as the underwriting loss we incurred offset investment income earned for the third quarter of 2023. While far from our targeted level of profitability, the quarterly result was a significant improvement compared to the $10.4 million net loss for the third quarter of 2022.
While far from our targeted level of profitability. The quarterly result was a significant improvement compared to the $10 $4 million net loss for the third quarter of 2020 to.
Last week, our board of directors declared a regular quarterly cash dividend of <unk> 17 per share of our class a common stock and $15 25 per share of our class B common stock. The dividends are payable on November 15th to stockholders of record as of the close of business on November one.
Jeff Miller: Last week, our board of directors declared a regular quarterly cash dividend of $0.17 per share of our class A common stock and $0.15.25 per share of our class B common stock.
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Speaker 3: Last week, our Board of Directors declared a regular quarterly cash dividend of $0.17 per share of our Class A common stock and $0.15.25 per share of our Class B common stock. The dividends are payable on November 15th to stockholders of record as of the close of business on November 1st.
Jeff Miller: The dividends are payable on November 15th to stockholders of record as of the close of business on November 1st.
With that I will turn the call over to Jeff Hey to provide more details about our commercial and personal lines segment results Jeff.
Jeff Hay: With that, I will turn the call over to Jeff Hay to provide more details about our commercial and personal line segment results. Jeff? Thanks, Jeff. During the third quarter of 2023, we continued to navigate a challenging environment facing both ongoing economic headwinds and an increased frequency of severe weather events. Our results for the quarter reflected a continuation of strategic initiatives to run off targeted underperforming accounts while selectively writing new accounts. We're continuing to push rate increases in numerous underwriting initiatives to improve the profitability of the overall business.
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Speaker 3: With that, I will turn the call over to Jeff Hay to provide more details about our commercial and personal line segment results. Jeff?
Thanks, Jeff.
During the third quarter of 2023, we continue to navigate a challenging environment facing both ongoing economic headwinds and an increased frequency of severe weather events are.
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Speaker 4: Thanks, Jeff. During the third quarter of 2023, we continue to navigate a challenging environment, facing both ongoing economic headwinds and an increased frequency of severe weather events. Our results for the quarter reflected a continuation of strategic initiatives to run off targeted underperforming accounts while selectively writing new accounts. We're continuing to push rate increases in numerous underwriting initiatives to improve the profitability of the overall business.
Our results for the quarter reflected a continuation of strategic initiatives to runoff targeted underperforming accounts, while selectively writing new accounts, we're continuing to push rate increases in numerous underwriting initiatives to improve the profitability of the overall business. While this effort is underway, we are actively positioning donegal for future growth.
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Speaker 4: While this effort is underway, we are actively positioning Donnagle for future growth, particularly as market trends return to normal and we're achieving target profit level.
Jeff Hay: While this effort is underway, we are actively positioning Donagle for future growth, particularly as market trends return to normal and we're achieving targeted profit levels. We intend to remain an active market participant for profitable new business with an intense focus on prudent risk selection and margin expansion as we utilize our advanced analytics to appropriately price risks and optimize our mix of business. We've identified the most profitable opportunities from an industry, geographic, line of business and customer segment perspective with target mix percentages for each and where it poised to grow in these profitable market segments as overall conditions improve.
Particularly as market trends returned to normal and were achieving targeted profit levels.
We intend to remain an active market participant for profitable new business with an intense focus on prudent risk selection and margin expansion as we utilize our advanced analytics to appropriately price risks and optimize our mix of business.
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Speaker 4: We intend to remain an active market participant for profitable new business with an intense focus on prudent risk selection and margin expansion as we utilize our advanced analytics to appropriately price risks and optimize our mix of business.
We've identified the most profitable opportunities from an industry geographic line of business and customer segment perspective with target mix percentages for each and were poised to grow in these profitable market segments as overall conditions improve.
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Speaker 4: We've identified the most profitable opportunities from an industry, geographic, line of business, and customer segment perspective with target mix percentages for each, and where it poised to grow in these profitable market segments as overall conditions improve.
Commercial net written premiums decreased by approximately 2% during the quarter, reflecting in large part the non renewal of commercial accounts located in Georgia, and Alabama, as Kevin mentioned earlier as well as other intentional actions by our frontline underwriters to move away from underperforming individual accounts and classes of business.
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Speaker 4: Commercial net-written premiums decreased by approximately 2% during the quarter, reflecting in large part the non-renewal of commercial accounts located in Georgia and Alabama, as Kevin mentioned earlier, as well as other intentional actions by our frontline underwriters to move away from underperforming individual accounts and classes of business. Excluding the impact of our strategic non-renewal actions in Georgia and Alabama, commercial net premiums written increased approximately 7% in the quarter, primarily due to significant increases in rate averaging nearly 13% excluding workers' compensation.
Jeff Hay: Commercial net-written premiums decreased by approximately 2% during the quarter, reflecting in large part the non-renewal of commercial accounts located in Georgia and Alabama, if Kevin mentioned earlier, as well as other intentional actions by our frontline underwriters to move away from underperforming individual accounts and classes of business. Excluding the impact of our strategic non-renewal actions in Georgia and Alabama, commercial net premiums written increased approximately 7% in the quarter, primarily due to significant increases in rate averaging nearly 13% excluding workers' compensation.
Excluding the impact of our strategic non renewal actions in Georgia, and Alabama commercial net premiums written increased approximately 7% in the quarter, primarily due to significant increases in rate, averaging nearly 13% excluding workers' compensation, that's coupled with strong retention and modest levels of conservatively underwritten new business.
Jeff Hay: That's coupled with strong retention and modest levels of conservatively underwritten new business premiums. We'll continue to emphasize property rate increases in the fourth quarter of 2023 and into 2024, as well as driving the highest rate levels in the areas where the intersections of class, line of business and geography are most challenging from a profit perspective. Our commercial line statutory combined ratio was a 97.5 in the quarter compared to a 112.1 in the prior year period, primarily driven by lower core losses and a significant decrease in large fire losses.
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Speaker 4: That's coupled with strong retention and modest levels of conservatively underwritten business premium. We'll continue to emphasize property rate increases in the fourth quarter of 2023 and into 2024. As well as driving the highest rate levels in the areas where the intersections of class, line of business and geography are most challenging from a profit perspective.
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We'll continue to emphasize property rate increases in the fourth quarter of 2023 and into 2024.
As well as driving the highest rate levels in the areas, where the intersections of class line of business and geography, our most challenging from a profit perspective.
Our commercial lines statutory combined ratio was $97 five in the quarter compared to $112. One in the prior year period, primarily driven by lower core losses, and a significant decrease in large fire losses.
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Speaker 4: Our commercial line statutory combined ratio was a 97.5 in the quarter compared to a 112.1 in the prior year period.
Our core commercial loss ratio decreased eight four percentage points with improvements across all major lines of business, indicating that our rate and underwriting actions that have been underway for some time now are beginning to take effect.
Jeff Hay: Our core commercial loss ratio decreased 8.4 percentage points with improvements across all major lines of business, indicating that our rate and underwriting actions that have been underway for some time now are beginning to take effect. The 49% reduction in large fire losses accounted for approximately 5.5 percentage point improvement in the commercial loss ratio. So while our business will always have exposure to fire losses, we do have specific actions underway to perform an in-depth review of our large property portfolio to identify key fire risk factors and also to drive underlying improvements in our risk selection process to reduce the likelihood and frequency of large fire losses.
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Speaker 4: ratio decreased 8.4 percentage points with improvements across all major lines of business, indicating that our rate and underwriting actions that have been underway for some time now are beginning to take effect. The 49% reduction in large fire losses accounted for approximately 5.5 percentage point improvement in the commercial loss ratio. So while our business will always have exposure to fire losses, we do have specific actions underway to perform an in-depth review of our large property portfolio to identify key fire risk factors and also to drive underlying improvements in our risk selection process to reduce the likelihood and frequency of large fire losses. Similar to what we've seen in announcements by others in our industry, we had a busy weather quarter from a claims perspective.
The 49% reduction in large fire losses accounted for approximately five five percentage point improvement in the commercial loss ratio.
So while our business will always have exposure to fire losses, we do have specific actions underway to perform an in depth review of our large property portfolio to identify key fire risk factors and also to drive underlying improvements in our risk selection process to reduce the likelihood and frequency of loss.
Fire losses.
Similar to what we've seen in announcements by others in our industry, we had a busy weather quarter from a claims perspective, an increase in frequency of smaller storms, particularly affected the results of the commercial multi peril line of business as the weather related loss ratio impact in that line increased to 17 five percentage points compared to.
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Speaker 4: Similar to what we've seen in announcements by others in our industry, we had a busy weather quarter from a claims perspective. An increase in frequency of smaller storms, particularly affected the results of the commercial Montlaugherr line of business, as the weather-related loss ratio impact in that line increased to 17.5 percentage points compared to 9.7 points in the prior year quarter. The majority of the weather-related losses stemmed from local, convective storm activity across our regions with only nominal losses from hurricanes Idaalia and Ophelia and the 2023 Duretio event in Midwest.
Jeff Hay: Similar to what we've seen in announcements by others in our industry, we had a busy weather quarter from a claims perspective. An increase in frequency of smaller storms particularly affected the results of the commercial multi-paralline of business as the weather-related loss ratio impact in that line increased to 17.5 percentage points compared to 9.7 points in the prior year quarter. The majority of the weather-related losses stem from local convective storm activity across our regions with only nominal losses from hurricanes, idelia, and ophelia and the 2023-DRHU event in Midwest.
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The majority of the weather related losses stem from local convective storm activity across our regions with only nominal losses from Hurricanes, Vidalia, and Ophelia and the 2023 to reach a event in Midwest.
Our research and experience indicates not only an increase in the frequency of recent storm activity, but also an increase in the geographical areas that storms are now affecting we have specific actions underway to manage our exposures and optimize our geographic spread of risk identifying down to the county level.
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Speaker 4: Our research and experience indicates not only an increase in the frequency of recent storm activity, but also an increase in the geographical areas that storms are now affecting. We have specific actions underway to manage our exposures and optimize our geographic spread of risk, identifying down to the county level where we want to grow or reduce commercial property exposure.
Jeff Hay: Our research and experience indicates not only an increase in the frequency of recent storm activity, but also an increase in the geographical areas that storms are now affecting. We have specific actions underway to manage our exposures and optimize our geographic spread of risk, identifying down to the county level where we want to grow or reduce commercial property exposures. As Kevin mentioned earlier, we have now completed our entire country-wide rollout of a new agency facing portal with enhanced small commercial products, straight through processing capabilities, and online bindability that we believe will significantly improve our positioning within the small commercial market.
We want to grow or reduce commercial property exposures.
As Kevin mentioned earlier, we have now completed our entire country wide rollout of a new agency facing portal with enhanced small commercial products straight through processing capabilities and online buying the ability that we believe will significantly improve our positioning within the small commercial market.
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Speaker 4: As Kevin mentioned earlier, we have now completed our entire countrywide rollout of a new agency-facing portal with enhanced small commercial products, straight-through processing capabilities, and online bindability that we believe will significantly improve our positioning within the small commercial market. We consider ourselves a generalist carrier with a broad appetite for profitable accounts across a spectrum of industries, including contractors, retail, professional services, and real estate, just to name a few. Early results are promising, and feedback from our independent agents has been positive as we look to grow in the small commercial segment. Now turning to personal lines, nearly 18% net premiums written growth in the third quarter reflected 14% average renewal rate increases and minimal exposure increases. Our actual numbers of policies in force continues to remain close to flat year over year, indicating that the premium growth was almost entirely driven by rate achievement in the quarter. Rate increases averaged 11% for personal auto and almost 20% for homeowners. As I stated in previous calls, we expect these percentages to continue to increase in the near term. Retention remains strong at 89% for the quarter, indicating that policyholders are accepting higher renewal premiums, with nearly every carrier in the market striving for rate increases to offset ongoing lost-cost inflation trends. We continue to limit new business in personal lines, seeking to stabilize our profitability as our highest priority. The personal lines statutory combined ratio increased to 119.4%, compared to 107.8% for the prior year period, primarily as a result of the same weather events I mentioned for our commercial lines of business that had a significant impact to our homeowners line, as Jeff Miller mentioned in his earlier comments. A key part of our strategy in personal lines is to diversify the geographic footprint of our property exposures to improve the loss-ratio performance on the homeowners line of business. We've identified down to the county level where we're looking to grow and where we need to reduce exposures in order to optimize our risk profile for the property line. We've already made a beneficial shift in our exposures, as policies in force are growing modestly in targeted profitable counties and shrinking in counties identified for profit improvement.
We consider ourselves a generalist carrier with a broad appetite for profitable accounts across the spectrum of industries, including contractors retail professional services and real estate just to name a few.
Jeff Hay: We consider ourselves a generalist carrier with a broad appetite for profitable accounts across the spectrum of industries including contractors, retail, professional services, and real estate just to name a few. Early results are promising, and feedback from our independent agents has been positive as we look to grow in a small commercial segment.
Early results are promising and feedback from our independent agents has been positive as we look to grow in the small commercial segment.
Now turning to personal lines nearly 18% net premiums written growth in the third quarter reflected 14% average renewal rate increases and minimal exposure increases.
Jeff Hay: Now turning to personal lines. Nearly 18 percent net premiums written growth in the third quarter reflected 14 percent average renewal rate increases and minimal exposure increases. Our actual numbers of policies and forests continues to remain close to flat year-over-year, indicating that the premium growth was almost entirely driven by rate achievement in the quarter. Rate increases averaged 11 percent for personal auto and almost 20 percent for homeowners. As I stated in previous calls, we expect these percentages to continue to increase in the near term.
Our actual numbers of policies in force continues to remain close to flat year over year, indicating that the premium growth was almost entirely driven by rate achievement in the quarter.
Rate increases averaged 11% for personal auto and almost 20% for homeowners as I stated in previous calls we expect these percentages to continue to increase in the near term.
Retention remains strong at 89% for the quarter, indicating the policyholders are accepting higher renewal premiums with nearly every carrier in the market striving for rate increases to offset ongoing loss cost inflation trends.
Jeff Hay: Retention remains strong at 89 percent for the quarter, indicating that policyholders are accepting higher renewal premiums with nearly every carrier in the market, striving for rate increases to offset ongoing loss cost inflation trends. We continue to limit new business and personal lines seeking to stabilize our profitability as our highest priority. The personal line statutory combined ratio increased to 119.4 percent compared to 107.8 percent for the prior year period. Primarily as a result of the same weather events I mentioned for our commercial lines of business that had a significant impact to our homeowners line as Jeff Miller mentioned in his earlier comments.
We continue to limit new business in personal lines seeking to stabilize our profitability as our highest priority.
The personal lines statutory combined ratio increased to 119, 4% compared to 107, 8% for the prior year period, primarily as a result of the same weather events I mentioned for our commercial lines of business that had a significant impact to our homeowners line as Jeff Miller mentioned in his earlier comments.
A key part of our strategy in personal lines is to diversify the geographic footprint of our property exposures to improve the loss ratio performance on the homeowners line of business.
Jeff Hay: A key part of our strategy in personal lines is to diversify the geographic footprint of our property exposures to improve the loss ratio performance on the homeowners line of business. We've identified down to the county level where we're looking to grow and where we need to reduce exposures in order to optimize our risk profile for the property line. We've already made a beneficial shift in our exposures as policies and force are growing modestly in targeted profitable counties and shrinking in counties identified for profit improvement.
We've identified down to the county level, where we're looking to grow and where we need to reduce exposures in order to optimize our risk profile for the property line. We've already made a beneficial shift in our exposures as policies in force are growing modestly and targeted profitable counties and shrinking in counties identified for profit improvement.
At this time I'd like to turn it over to Tony <unk> for an update on our investment portfolio Tony.
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Speaker 4: Now at this time I'd like to turn it over to Tony Biazzi for an update on our investment portfolio. Tony?
Tony Villazi: Now at this time I'd like to turn it over to Tony Biasi from update on our investment portfolio. Tony. Thank you Jeff. We are happy to report $10.5 million of net investment income for the third quarter of 2023, which is our sixth consecutive quarter of higher investment income. This 23% increase from the same period last year was primarily reflective of an increase in average investment yield as compared to the prior year period.
Thank you, Jeff we are happy to report $10 5 million of net investment income for the third quarter of 2023, which is our sixth consecutive quarter of higher investment income. This 23% increase from the same period last year was primarily reflective.
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Speaker 4: Thank you, Jeff. We are happy to report $10.5 million of net investment income for the third quarter of 2023, which is our sixth consecutive quarter of higher investment income. This 23% increase from the same period last year was primarily reflective of an increase in average investment yield as compared to the prior year period.
Of an increase in average investment yield as compared to the prior year period.
During the third quarter of 2023, the average tax equivalent yield was three 2% up from 266% from the same period in 2022, and reaching the highest level of yields we have seen in the last decade.
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Speaker 5: During the third quarter of 2023, the average tax equivalent yield was 3.22%. Up from 2.66% from the same period in 2022, and reaching the highest level of yields we have seen in the last decade.
Tony Villazi: During the third quarter of 2023, the average tax equivalent yield was 3.22% up from 2.66% from the same period in 2022 and reaching the highest level of yields we have seen in the last decade. Short-term cash rates close to 5.25% were higher than we achieved in both the preceding quarter and the third quarter of 2022. Of note, the average bond re-investment yield was 5.46% or approximately 175 basis points higher than the bond yields coming off the books in the third quarter.
Short term cash rates close to five 5% were higher than we achieved in both the preceding quarter and the third quarter of 2022 of note. The average bond reinvestment yield was 546% or approximately 175 basis points higher than the bond yields coming off.
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Speaker 5: Short-term cash rates, close to 5.25%, were higher than we achieved in both the preceding quarter and the third quarter of 2022.
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Speaker 5: Of note, the average bond reinvestment yield was 5.46% or approximately 175 basis points higher than the bond yields coming off the books in the third quarter. We continue to strategically shift our investment mix from equities, corporate bonds, and municipal bonds into U.S. treasuries and agencies, as well as mortgage-backed securities.
The box in the third quarter, we continued to strategically shift our investment mix from equities corporate bonds municipal bonds into U S treasuries and agencies as well as mortgage backed securities. This shift will provide a more favorable risk return profile and should perform well in both the short.
Tony Villazi: We continued to strategically shift our investment mix from equities, corporate bonds and municipal bonds into US treasuries and agencies as well as mortgage back securities. This shift will provide a more favorable risk return profile and should perform well in both the short and long term. Net investment losses were $1.2 million for the third quarter of 2023 compared to $2.4 million in the prior year period. Losses in both periods were primarily related to unrealized losses in the fair value of equity securities we held at September 30.
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Speaker 5: This shift will provide a more favorable risk return profile and should perform well in both the short and long term. Net investment losses were $1.2 million for the third quarter of 2023 compared to $2.4 million in the prior year period.
And long term.
Net investment losses were $1 2 million for the third quarter of 2023 compared to $2 4 million in the prior year period.
Losses in both periods were primarily related to unrealized losses in the fair value of equity Securities. We held at September 30, as a reminder, our equity portfolio continues to represent a very modest two 7% of our total investments in line with our equity holdings at December 31, two.
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Speaker 5: Losses in both periods were primarily related to unrealized losses in the fair value of equity securities we held at September 30.
Tony Villazi: As a reminder, our equity portfolio continues to represent a very modest 2.7% of our total investments in line with our equity holdings at December 31, 2022 but down from 3.6% of our portfolio one year ago. We will maintain our conservative investment approach limiting our equity exposure due to the current volatile nature of the US equity markets amid current world events.
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Speaker 5: As a reminder, our equity portfolio continues to represent a very modest 2.7% of our total investment.
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Speaker 5: in line with our equity holdings at December 31, 2022, but down from 3.6% of our portfolio one year ago. We will maintain our conservative investment approach, limiting our equity exposure due to the current volatile nature of the U.S. equity markets amid current world events.
And 'twenty, two but down from three 6% of our portfolio one year ago, we will maintain our conservative investment approach limiting our equity exposure due to the current volatile nature of the U S equity markets amid current world events. During the first nine months of the year.
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Speaker 5: During the first nine months of the year, after-tax unrealized losses within our available-for-sale bonds lowered our book value per share by 32 cents, leading to book value per share of $14.26 at September 30, 2023, compared to $14.79 at December 31, 2022.
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Tony Villazi: During the first nine months of the year after tax unrealized losses within our available for sale bonds lowered our book value per share by 32 cents leading to book value per share of $14.26 at September 30, 2023 compared to $14.79 at December 31, 2022.
Leading to book value per share of $14 26 at September 32023, compared to $14 79 at December 31 2022.
With that I will now turn it back to Kevin for closing remarks.
Kevin Burke: With that, I will now turn it back to Kevin for closing remarks. Thanks Tony. I would like to take a moment to thank our dedicated staff members for their ongoing tireless efforts during this time of strategic transformation at Donugle and of course thanks to our stockholders for your continued interest and support.
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Speaker 5: With that, I will now turn it back to Kevin for closing remarks.
Thanks, Tony.
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Speaker 2: Thanks, Tony. I would like to take a moment to thank our dedicated staff members for their ongoing tireless efforts during this time of strategic transformation at Donegal. And of course, thanks to our stockholders for your continued interest and support. I look forward to speaking to you in the next call in February 2024. I will now turn the call back to Karen.
I would like to take a moment to thank our dedicated staff members for their ongoing tireless efforts. During this time of strategic transformation that Donegal and of course, thanks to our stockholders for your continued interest and support I look forward to speaking to you in the next call in February 2024, I will now turn the call back to Karen. Thank you Kevin.
Kevin Burke: I look forward to speaking to you in the next call in February 2024.
Operator: I will now turn a call back to Karen. Thank you Kevin.
I would like to move into our question and answer session.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Kevin. I would like to move into our question and answer session. In advance of today's call, we requested and received questions from interested parties, and while we answered many of the questions within management's prepared remarks, we will address a few of the questions directly.
Operator: I would like to move into our question and answer session.
For today's call, we requested and received questions from interested parties and while we answered many of the questions with management's prepared remarks, we will address a few of the questions directly.
Operator: In advance of today's call we requested and received questions from interested parties and while we answered many of the questions within management's prepared remarks, we will address a few of the questions directly.
The first question is related to workers compensation can you talk more broadly about your updated view on the workers comp mark that both from a pricing competitive landscape and paired with loss cost trends.
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Speaker 1: The first question is relating to workers' compensation. Can you talk more broadly about your updated view on the workers' comp market, both from a pricing competitive landscape and paired with lost cost trends?
Jeff Hay: The first question is relating to workers' compensation. Can you talk more broadly about your updated view on the workers' comp market, both from a pricing competitive landscape and paired with lost cost trends?
This is Jeff Hey, I can take that one workers' compensation continues to be the most profitable line of business for us in fact, we're taking specific actions to grow the mix of workers compensation within our commercial segment.
Jeff Hay: This is Jeff Hay. I can take that one. Workers' compensation continues to be the most profitable line of business for us. In fact, we're taking specific actions to grow the mix of workers' compensation within our commercial segment. Now while medical inflation remains largely in check, we have seen some recent upward pressure on indemnity severity due to higher wage inflation. But since wages are the exposure base for premiums in this line of business, we believe we are well positioned for this upward pressure on severity. The market itself for workers come remains highly competitive as we are far from the only carrier to be experiencing profit within the line and looking for ways to write more of it.
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Speaker 4: This is Jeff Hay, I can take that one. Workers' compensation continues to be the most profitable line of business for us. In fact, we're taking specific actions to grow the mix of workers' compensation within our commercial segment. Now, while medical inflation remains largely in check, we have seen some recent upward pressure on indemnity severity due to higher wage inflation. But since wages are the exposure base for premiums in this line of business, we believe we are well positioned for this upward pressure on severity. The market itself for workers' comp remains highly competitive as we are far from the only carrier to be experiencing profit within the line and looking for ways to write more of it.
Now while medical inflation remains largely in check we have seen some recent upward pressure on indemnity severity due to higher wage inflation.
But since wages or the exposure base for premiums in this line of business. We believe we are well positioned for this upward pressure on severity.
The market itself for workers' comp remains highly competitive as we are far from the only carrier to be experiencing profit within the line and looking for ways to write more of it.
The second question relates to commercial auto can you provide an update on where the commercial auto line of Adam.
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Speaker 4: The second question relates to commercial auto. Can you provide it up to you on where the commercial auto line is from a rate adequacy perspective? We've made pretty good progress in commercial auto profitability over the past several years. And this has been the result of a lot of hard work to regain rate adequacy in a line of business that's been very challenging for the entire industry over the last decade.
Jeff Hay: The second question relates to commercial auto. Can you provide an update on where the commercial auto line is from rate adequacy perspective? We've made pretty good progress in commercial auto profitability over the past several years and this has been the result of a lot of hard work to regain rate adequacy in a line of business that's been very challenging for the entire industry over the last decade.
Quick perspective.
We've made pretty good progress in commercial auto profitability over the past several years and this has been the result of a lot of hard work to regain rate adequacy in our line of business, that's been very challenging for the entire industry over the last decade and.
And we expect our exit from the commercial market in Georgia, We will further improve our commercial auto results over time.
Jeff Hay: And we expect our exit from the commercial market in Georgia will further improve our commercial auto results over time. We're very pleased with the progress that we've made but will continue to take rate and non-rate actions to stay ahead of the continuing inflationary trends in both liability and physical damage losses.
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Speaker 4: And we expect our exit from the commercial market in Georgia will further improve our commercial auto results over time. We're very pleased with the progress that we've made, but will continue to take rate and non-rate actions to stay ahead of the continuing inflationary trends in both liability and physical damage loss.
Very pleased with the progress that we've made but we'll continue to take rate and non rate actions to stay ahead of the continuing inflationary trends in both liability and physical damage losses.
And one last question on the investment portfolio can you remind us how much of your portfolio you would expect to be reinvested over the next 12 months Tony.
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Speaker 1: And one last question on the investment portfolio. Can you remind us how much of your portfolio you expect to be reinvested over the next 12 months? Tony?
Tony Villazi: And one last question on the investment portfolio. Can you remind us how much of your portfolio you expect to be reinvested over the next 12 months? Tony?
Tony.
Sure Karen looking at our current cash flow projections for 2024, we estimate that approximately $94 million of our bond portfolio will become available for reinvestment during the next calendar year.
Tony Villazi: Sure, Karen. Looking at our current cash flow projections for 2024, we estimate that approximately $94 million of our bond portfolio will become available for reinvestment during the next calendar year. Those investments are currently yielding around 3.60%. So we should be able to reinvest those funds at higher yields if market interest rates remain higher for longer as many now expect.
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Speaker 5: Sure, Karen. Looking at our current cash flow projections for 2024, we estimate that approximately $94 million of our bond portfolio will become available for reinvestment during the next calendar year. Those investments are currently yielding around 3.60%. So we should be able to reinvest those funds at higher yields if market interest rates remain higher for longer as many now expect.
Those investments are currently yielding around 360%. So we should be able to reinvest those funds at higher yields if market interest rates remain higher for longer as many now expect.
Thank you for those responses.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for those responses. If there are any additional questions, please feel free to reach out to us. This now concludes the Donnacle Group 3rd quarter, 2023 earnings webcast. Thank you and have a great day.
Operator: Thank you for those responses. If there are any additional questions, please feel free to reach out to us.
Any additional questions. Please feel free to reach out.
This now concludes the Donegal group third quarter 2023 earnings webcast. Thank you and have a great day.
Operator: This now concludes the Donnacle Group 3rd quarter 2023 earnings webcast. Thank you and have a great day.