Q4 2023 Four Corners Property Trust Inc Earnings Call
Operator: www. FourCornersPropertyTrust.com www.fourcorners.com Ladies and Gentlemen, thank you for standing by. The FCPT Fourth Quarter 2023 Financial Results Conference Call will begin shortly. If you would like to submit a question at any time, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. Thank you. Robert Stevenson, RJ Milligan, Collin Mings, Four Corners Property Trust Inc. Robert Stevenson, RJ Milligan, Collin Mings, Four Corners Property Trust Inc. Hello and welcome to the FCPT fourth quarter 2023 financial results conference call. My name is Elliot, and I'll be coordinating your call today.
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Hello, and welcome to the <unk> fourth quarter 2023 financial results Conference call. My name is Andrew and I'll be coordinating your call today.
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Gerry Morgan: Thank you, Elliot. During the course of this call, we will make forward-looking statements, which are based on our beliefs and assumptions. However, actual results will be affected by factors that are beyond our control or ability to predict.
Thank you Elliot during the course of this call we will make forward looking statements, which are based on our beliefs and assumptions actual results will be affected by factors that are beyond our control or ability to predict our assumptions are not a guarantee of future performance and some will prove to be incorrect for a more detailed description of potential risks. Please refer to our SEC filings, which can be found on our web.
Gerry Morgan: Our assumptions are not a guarantee of future performance, and some will prove to be incorrect. For a more detailed description of potential risks, please refer to our SEC filings, which can be found on our website. All of the information presented on this call is current as of today, February 15, 2024. In addition, reconciliation to non-GAAP financial measures presented on this call, such as FFO and AFFO, can be found in the company's supplemental report. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Bill. Thank you, Jerry. Good morning.
All of the information presented on this call is current as of today February 15 2024. In addition reconciliation to non-GAAP financial measures presented on this call such as <unk> and <unk> can be found in the Companys supplemental report and with that I'll turn the call over to Bill.
Thank you Gerry good morning, Thank you for joining us to discuss our fourth quarter results I will make introductory remarks, Patrick and Josh will comment further on the acquisition market and Jerry will conclude the discussion of our financial results and capital position.
Bill: Thank you for joining us to discuss our fourth quarter results. I will make a few introductory remarks. Patrick and Josh will comment further on the acquisition market, and Jerry will conclude the discussion of our financial results and capital position. We reported fourth-quarter AFFO of 43 cents per share, which is up 2 cents or 4.9% from Q4 last year. Our existing portfolio is performing exceptionally well, with 99.8% rent collections for the quarter and 99.8% occupancy at quarter end. FCPT had a record acquisitions year with $333 million of capital deployed in 2023. That was up 16% from a full year of 2022, which was also a previous record acquisition year. We are benefiting from establishing verticals in medical retail, auto services, and other retail in addition to restaurants, our historical core area of focus.
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Our existing portfolio is performing exceptionally well with 99, 8% rent collections for the quarter and 99, 8% occupancy at quarter end.
<unk> had a record acquisitions here with $333 million of capital deployed in 2023 that was up 16% from a full year of 2022, which was also a previous record acquisition here.
We are benefiting from establishing verticals and medical retail auto services and other retail in addition to restaurants, our historical core area of focus.
Bill: These transactions were primarily funded with equity raised in late 2022 and early 2023 at an average price of $27 per share, and with our June debt offering, where we benefited from hedge gains to lock in a 5.4% yield to maturity. After utilizing these funds, we slowed down acquisition activity in the second half of the year to reflect the impact of higher interest rates on equity and debt sources of capital.
These transactions were primarily funded with equity raised in late 2022, and early 'twenty three at an average price of about $27 per share and with our June debt offering where we benefited from hedge gains to lock in a five 4% yield to maturity.
After utilizing these funds we slowed down acquisition activity in the second half of the year to reflect the impact of higher interest rates on equity and debt sources of capital.
Bill: I would also highlight that an impact of purposely slowing down acquisition activities in 2023 was an elevated level of broken deal costs, which increased property expenses by approximately $250,000 compared to the 2022 level. While these impacted 2023 AFFO, it was the right decision to terminate transactions if they were no longer accretive, year-over-year for the restaurant sector as a whole remains positive in the fourth quarter in the four percent range, according to Baird Research. Although the casual dining sector is seeing small declines off strong levels in the prior year period,
I would also highlight that in impact of purposely slowing down acquisition activities. In 2023 was an elevated level of broken deal costs, which increased property expenses by approximately 250000 versus the 200 to 2022 level. While these impacted 2023 <unk>. It was the right decision to turn.
Nate transactions, if they were no longer accretive.
Year over year for the restaurant sector as a whole remained positive in the fourth quarter in the 4% range. According to Baird research.
Although the casual dining sector is seeing small declines off strong levels in the prior year period.
Bill: Garden was a standout from that trend, reporting same-store sales growth of 4.1% and 4.9% for Olive Garden and Longhorn, respectively, for their quarters ending November 26th. And Chili's saw same-store sales rise 5% for the most recent quarter ending December 27th. All three brands saw margins expand as well as commodity and labor inflation easing. Our EBITDA rent coverage in the fourth quarter was 4.9 times for the significant majority of our portfolio that reports this figure. This remains amongst the strongest coverage within the net lease industry. Turning to capital sources, we issued $25.4 million of equity in the fourth quarter at an average price of $25.34. We start the first quarter of 2024 with $234 million of available capacity on our revolving credit facility, very minimal near-term debt maturities, and highly attractive properties to sell to 1031 buyers if we choose to access that source of liquidity. However, as we look ahead, the current capital market environment is making it challenging to deploy capital creatively. I want to restate something I said last quarter.
<unk> was a start standout from that trend reporting same store sales growth of four 1% and four 9% for olive garden and longhorn respectively.
For the quarters, ending November 26, and Chile saw same store sales rose 5% for the most recent quarter ended December 27, all.
All three brands saw margins expand as well as commodity and labor inflation easing.
Our EBITDAR to rent coverage in the fourth quarter was four nine times for the significant majority of our portfolio that reports. This figure this remains amongst the strongest coverage within the net lease industry.
Turning to capital sources, we issued $25 4 million of equity in the fourth quarter at an average price of $25 34.
We start the first quarter of 2024 with $234 million of available capacity on our revolving credit facility very minimal near term debt maturities and highly attractive properties to sell to 10 31 buyers if we choose to access that source of liquidity.
As we look ahead, the current capital market environment is making it challenging to deploy capital Accretively I want to restate something I said last quarter in this environment, we remain disciplined allocators.
Bill: In this environment, we remain disciplined allocators of capital. Since our inception in 2015, we have established mental models and structured our team incentives to discourage deploying capital just to grow the company's overall size without also increasing per share metrics of earnings or intrinsic value. Our investment team does not work on commission, and their goal is not tied to acquisition volumes, as we have never given acquisition or earnings guidance.
Since our inception in 2015, we established mental models and structure our team incentives to discover to discourage deploying capital just to grow the company's overall size without also increasing per share metrics of earnings or intrinsic value.
Our investment team does not work on commission and their goal is not tied to acquisition volumes as we have never given acquisition our earnings guidance. Finally, we benefit from low absolute and relative overhead and can be nimble and modulate our investment activities up and down without negatively impacting the organization or employee morale.
Bill: Finally, we benefit from low absolute and relative overhead and can be nimble and modulate our investment activities up and down without negatively impacting the organization or employee morale. All that said, the team is laser-focused on building an accretive pipeline while minimizing risk. Cap rates have widened, and we have found interesting investment opportunities that Pat will elaborate on. We believe that we are prepared to operate successfully in today's environment and expect to ratchet up activity when we believe it is appropriate to do so. With that, I'll turn it over to Patrick to further discuss the investment environment. Thanks, Bill. As Bill mentioned, our cost of capital rose in 2023. And while market cap rates did improve, the shift was not commensurate with the movement in interest rates.
All that said the team is laser focused on building an accretive pipeline, while minimizing risk cap rates have widened.
And we have found interesting investment opportunities that Pat will elaborate on.
We believe that we are prepared to operate successfully in today's environment and expect to ratchet up activity. When we believe it is accretive to do so with that I'll turn it over to Patrick to further discuss the investment environment.
Thanks Bill.
As Bill mentioned, our cost of capital Rose in 2023, and while market cap rates did improve the shift was not commensurate with the movement in interest rates as such we moderated our acquisitions volume down in Q4. Despite the last few months historically being our busiest time of the year.
Patrick: As such, we moderated our acquisition volume down in Q4, despite the last few months historically being our busiest time of the year. In total, we closed on $12.8 million across six properties for the quarter. We spent years building out our platform and team, and our continued progress and outpacing prior years' volume reflects our growing capacity. Additionally, while it's not reflected directly in the numbers, the quality of these properties was also particularly strong in 2023 versus prior years, given the reduced number of active net lease buyers in the market, which allowed FCPT to be very selective. Our overall cap rate for the year was 20 bps higher than our previous year's acquisitions, despite a large, long-term, investment-grade transaction with Darden as the tenant. We would also like to note that our average initial lease term for the acquired properties this year was four years longer at 12 years compared to eight years last year.
In total we closed on $12 8 million across six properties for the quarter we.
We spent years building out our platform and team and our continued progress and outpacing prior year's volume reflects our growing capacity.
Additionally, while it is not reflected directly in the numbers. The quality of these properties was also particularly strong in 2023 versus prior years, given the reduced number of active net lease buyers in the market to allow <unk> to be very selective.
Our overall cap rate for the year was 20 bps higher than our previous year's acquisitions. Despite a large long term investment grade transaction with darden at the tenant.
I'd also like to note that our average initial lease term for the acquired properties. This year was four years longer at 12 years compared to eight years last year.
Patrick: It's worth pointing out that the cap rates for Q4 were higher than our full year figure and today we're pricing acquisitions above a 7% cap rate. Most of 2023's volume was closed in Q2 and early Q3 of this year and priced two to three months prior to that. For the year, our acquisitions have been roughly split between restaurants at 39 percent, medical retail at 36 percent, and auto service at 23 percent. We continue to monitor the market and expect to have more favorable opportunities and more attractive pricing in 2024 compared to 2023. However, we know that the bid-ask spread between buyers and sellers, while converging, still exists. As mentioned earlier, though, we believe that our team is entirely equipped to transact where it meets our underwriting criteria and is still attractive. The macro backdrop continues to be uncertain.
It's worth pointing out that the cap rates for Q4 were higher than our full year figure and today, we're pricing acquisitions above the 7% cap rate.
A 2020 threes volume was closed in Q2 and early Q3 of this year and priced two to three months prior to that.
For the year, our acquisitions have been roughly split between restaurant at 39% medical retail, 36% and auto service at 23%.
We continue to monitor the market and expect to have more favorable opportunities at more attractive pricing in 2024 compared to 2023. However, we note that the bid ask spread between buyers and sellers, while converging still exists as mentioned earlier that we believe that our team is entirely equipped to transact where it meets our underwriting criteria and it's still accretive.
The macro backdrop continues to be uncertain. We are focused on what we know purchasing accretive in high quality real estate leased to credit worthy tenants operating service based retail businesses.
Patrick: We've focused on what we know, purchasing accretive and high quality real estate, leased to credit worthy tenants, and operating service-based retail businesses. Josh, I'll turn it over to you to discuss dispositions, release, and our portfolio. Thanks, guys. We sold one Red Lobster property in October of Q4 last year that was underperforming versus brand average for $3.8 million, representing a small gain.
Josh I'll turn it over to you to discuss dispositions re leasing in our portfolio.
Thanks, Patrick we sold one red lobster property in October of Q4 last year that was underperforming versus brand average for $3 $8 million.
Representing a small gain.
Josh: Over the course of the past 14 months, we have sold six of our weakest Red Lobster properties at a weighted average cap rate of 6.5%, and we have reduced our exposure from 2.9% of annual base rent last year down to less than 1.7% today. Currently, most of our reb officers are masked, and the ones that are not in the master lease are reporting rent coverage in line or better than the rest of our portfolio. We are fortunate that even our weakest performing stores are able to be sold at attractive cap rates and recycled into our investments. It reminds us that even if the capital markets continue to be challenging, our portfolio has immense value that can be unlocked through selective distribution. Turning to leasing, we had five leases expire in Q4, with all five renewing above the current rental.
Over the course of the past 14 months, we have sold six of our weakest red lobster properties at a weighted average cap rate of six 5% and have reduced our exposure from two 9% of annual base rent last year down to less than one 7% today.
Currently most of our Red lobster's or master lease and the ones that are not in the master lease of reporting rent coverage in line or better than the rest of our portfolio.
We are fortunate that even our weakest performing stores are able to be sold at attractive cap rates and recycled into our investments accretively.
Reminds us that even if the capital markets continue to be challenging our portfolio has immense value that can be unlocked through selective dispositions.
Turning to leasing we had five leases that expire in Q4 with all five renewing above the current rent levels. This reinforces our confidence that rents are set at attractive levels for the tenants in our portfolio.
Josh: This reinforces our confidence that rents are set at attractive levels for the tenants in our portfolio. Our portfolio today stands at 99.8% occupancy and remains well positioned with only 1.3% and 2.2% of the annual base rent maturing in 2024 and 2025. And with that, Jerry, I'll turn it back over to you. Thanks, Josh. For the fourth quarter, our cash rental revenues grew 15.8% on a year-over-year basis, including the benefit of rental increases and the $333 million of acquisitions that were closed in the last 12 months. We reported $57 million of cash rental income for the fourth quarter after excluding $0.6 million of straight line and other non-cash rental adjustments.
Folio today stands at 99, 8% occupancy and remains well positioned with only one 3% and two 2% of annual base rent maturing in 2024, and 2025, respectively and with that Jerry I'll turn it back over to you.
Thanks, Josh for the fourth quarter, our cash rental revenues grew 15, 8% on a year over year basis, including the benefit of rental increases and the $333 million of acquisitions that were closed in the last 12 months, we reported $57 million of cash rental income for the fourth quarter.
After excluding $6 million of straight line and other noncash rental adjustments and on a run rate basis. Our current annual cash base rent for leases in place as of December 31 is $218 2 million and our weighted average five year annual cash rent escalator remains at one 4% as Bill mentioned we collected.
Jerry: And on a run rate basis, our current annual cash base rent for leases in place as of December 31st is $218.2 million, and our weighted average five-year annual cash rent escalator remains at 1.4%. As Bill mentioned, we collected 99.8% of base rent in the fourth quarter, and there were no material changes to our collectability or credit reserves nor any balance sheet impairments. Cash G&A expense excluding stock-based compensation was $4.1 million, representing 7.1% of cash rental income for the quarter, down and compared to 8% for Q4 2022.
99, 8% of base rent in the fourth quarter and there were no material changes to our collectability or credit reserves, nor any balance sheet impairments cash G&A expense, excluding stock based compensation was $4 1 million, representing seven 1% of cash rental income for the quarter down.
Compared to 8% for Q4 2022.
For your modeling purposes, we expect cash G&A will be approximately $17 million for 2024 as a reminder, we take a conservative approach to G&A and expense, 100% of costs associated with our internal investment team with respect to the balance sheet at quarter end, we had $259 million of liquidity comprised of six.
Jerry: For your modeling purposes, we expect cash G&A to be approximately $17 million for 2024. As a reminder, we take a conservative approach to G&A and expense 100% of costs associated with our internal investment team. With respect to the balance sheet, at quarter end, we had $259 million of liquidity comprised of $60 million of unrestricted cash, $8 million of 1031 proceeds available to redeploy, and $236 million of undrawn revolver capacity.
$8 million of unrestricted cash of $8 million or $2 31 proceeds available to redeploy in $236 million of Undrawn revolver capacity with respect to overall leverage our net debt to adjusted EBITDA in the fourth quarter was five five times and our fixed charge coverage ratio was a healthy four four times.
Our only near term debt maturity is a $50 million private note due in June of 2024, otherwise our next debt obligation is $150 million of bank term debt due in November of 2025, while we won't comment on specific timing or strategy. We expect to address this small maturity well prior to its expiration.
Jerry: With respect to overall leverage, our net debt adjusted EBITDA in the fourth quarter was 5.5 times, and our fixed charge coverage ratio was a healthy 4.4 times. Our only near-term debt maturity is a $50 million private note due in June of 2024. Otherwise, our next debt obligation is $150 million of bank term debt due in November of 2025. While we won't comment on specific timing or strategy, we expect to address this small maturity well prior to its expiration in June. And based on our strong credit profile and recent conversations with multiple banks in our lender, we expect that the bank market will remain open to us at an attractive cost of capital amongst the many options we have available when thinking about this maturity. We remain committed to layering and using conservatism in our debt maturity stacking.
<unk> in June and based on our strong credit profile in recent conversations with multiple banks and our lender group, we expect that the bank market remains open to us at an attractive cost of capital amongst the many options we have available when thinking about this maturity. We remained committed to layering in using conservatism in our <unk>.
Maturity stacking and with that I'll turn it back over to Elliot for Investor Q&A.
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Yes, thanks, good morning.
I was just wondering if you could talk about just what.
What what you think is a good deal today, whether it's just a higher yield or what.
The lease length or real estate basis, like how you're sizing up the things that you like.
Anthony Paolone: The first question today comes from Anthony Paolone with J.P. Morgan. Your line is open, please go ahead. Yeah, thanks. Good morning. I'm just wondering if you could talk, Bill, about just what you think is a good deal today, whether it's just a higher yield or what's, you know, maybe the lease length or, or real estate basis, like how you're sizing up the things that you like versus, you know, not doing anything. You know, I'd invert the question.
Versus not doing anything.
I'd invert the question I look at net lease more of.
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But.
Having selection bias excluding attributes so we're now.
Very focused on having truly triple net leases even in industries, where it's not.
Always the case like medical and auto service, it's being focused on having longer lease term higher credit tenants and we're still getting pricing.
<unk> north of a seven cap so.
Bill: I look in at least more of having selection bias excluding attributes. So we're now focused on having, you know, truly triple net leases, even in industries where it's not always the case, like medical and auto service. It's being focused on having longer lease terms, higher credit tenants, and we're still getting pricing in, you know, north of a seven cap. So, We've always been quite selective, as Pat mentioned, and the more recent environment allows us to be even more so. So it really is being able to very quickly ignore properties that we still see every once in a while that are priced, you know, very aggressively, or have very high rents or have small, unproven tenants.
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We've always been quite selective as Pat mentioned, the more recent environment allows us to be even more so so it really is.
Being able to very quickly ignore properties.
We still see every once in a while that are priced.
Very aggressively or have very high rents or have small unproven tenants.
Yes.
That's the way I would look at it.
Youre seeing more.
Investment grade Triple net new construction medical retail on our pipeline would be one example.
Yes.
Bill: That's the way I would look at it. You're seeing more investment grade, triple net, new construction, medical retail in our pipeline. Thank you. Thank you. And you mentioned in the sevens, like, I think the couple deals you've done so far this year, I think we're like a six, nine, and you talked to sevens. Do you think that's, you know, good enough, versus where you think your capital costs are right now? Or do you think there should be some more movement upwards? Or how should we think about that? I think the trend seems to be in our direction, obviously the recent Fed commentary has sent the market up and down seemingly on a daily basis, but I would say that the cap rates, We're seeing good stuff to do in the low sevens, and, you know, that http://TheBusinessProfessor.com. Okay, thank you. We now turn to Conor Szebeski with Wells Fargo. Your line is open, please go ahead. Good morning.
Okay, and you mentioned in the Sevens like is that I think the couple of deals you've done. So far this year I think we are I guess six nine and you talked to <unk> do you think thats.
Good enough versus like where you think your capital costs are right now or do you think there should be some more movement upwards or how should we think about that.
I think the trends seems to be in our direction.
Obviously, the recent fed commentary has sent the market up and down seemingly on a daily basis, but I would say that the cap rates.
We're seeing good stuff to do in the low sevens.
That <unk>.
Kind of works with our current cost of capital is certainly would be a lot more obvious if we had a couple more bucks on our stock price.
Okay. Thank you.
Thanks.
We now turn to cornerstone for Skinny with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Good morning, Thank you for the time.
Conor Szebeski: Thank you. In the opening remarks, you mentioned the elevated level of broken deal costs that impacted acquisition volumes. You know, I'm just curious if you could extrapolate on that point a little bit. Is that just due to pricing dislocations? FCPT in the cellar, or are there any other factors?
In the opening remarks, you mentioned the elevated level of broker deal costs that impacted acquisition volumes I'm. Just curious maybe if you could extrapolate on that point a little bit is that just due to pricing dislocations between.
CPP and the seller or are there any other factors to consider in those broken deals.
Bill: Yeah, I would just, I mean, maybe to get one level more detailed, it's not that we're walking away from deposits. We haven't been doing that. It's that, you know, when you're working on an LOI or you have legal costs, you know, perhaps you've engaged some third-party experts to look at the environmental or to analyze a structural issue with the building. And, you know, historically, that's part of our business. If we're going to buy, you know, north of 100 buildings a year, there are times when you get down the road with a building, and then you find something that dissuades you from buying it. But just in this environment, we're making sure that we don't get wedded to a property and make bad long-term decisions to avoid dead deal costs. So it was notable in 23, but wasn't really notable in the years past. I thought it was worth mentioning. Okay, that's a good color.
Yes, I would just add.
I mean, maybe to get one level more detailed it's not that we're walking away from deposits.
Haven't been doing that it's that when you are working on an LOI or.
Legal costs.
Perhaps you even gave some third party.
Experts to look at environmental or to analyze a structural issue with the building.
And historically.
As part of our business, if we if we're going to buy.
North of a 100 buildings a year there are times when you get down the road with a building and then you find something that dissuade you from buying it.
But just.
In this environment, we're making sure that.
We don't get wed to our property.
And.
My bad long term decisions to avoid dead deal costs. So it was notable in 'twenty three.
Wasn't really notable in year's past I thought it was worth mentioning.
Okay.
Good color I appreciate the context there.
Bill: And then just quickly on the watch list, I mean, Red Lobster at, You know, is there anything else in the portfolio that you have eyes on right now or, you know, maybe, in the context of the choppy macro? considering changing any of the criteria on AWOT. No, I think that's a definitive no. Maybe the, add to my comments and segue this to Anthony's previous question, we're very happy that we didn't do a novel net lease in the last handful of years. What do I mean by novel in at least Carvanhaas?
And then just quickly on the watch list I mean appreciate the work.
Getting out of some of those red lobster assets.
Is there anything else in the portfolio that you advise on right now or maybe in the context of the choppy macro environment are you considering changing any of the criteria.
To put something on a watch list.
No.
I think.
That's a definitive no.
Maybe to.
Add to my comments.
Segue this to Anthonys previous question.
We're very happy that we didn't.
Do novel net lease.
And the last handful of years and what do I mean by novel net lease Carvana is $9 million car washes.
Bill: You know, $9 million car washes, bowling alleys, things like that that you could get higher yields on, and we could certainly be doing those right now, you know, with an eight handle on it. But the credit is much more tenuous than what we've been doing. So one of the.
Bowling alleys things.
Things like that that you could get higher yields and we could certainly be doing those right now.
With an eight handle on it.
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The credit is much more tenuous than what we've been doing so.
Bill: One of the important factors of having a consistent model that errs on being conservative is when you have choppy macro, your portfolio hangs in there better than your peers. Okay, I'll leave it there. Thank you. As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad now, now turn to Alec Fagan with Baird. Your line is open, please go ahead.
One of the.
Important factors of having a consistent model.
Errors on being Conservative is when you have choppy macro your portfolio hangs in there better than than your peers.
Okay I'll leave it there. Thank you for the time.
Yes.
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Now turn to Alex Hagan with Baird. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning. Thank you for taking my question first one is what is the investment pipeline look at like how likely will.
Alec Fagan: Thank you for taking my question. The first one is, what is the investment pipeline looking like? How likely will we see an even higher percentage of medical and auto service assets as part of that investment total in 2024? You know, hard to predict full-year volumes because you'll still be sourcing deals for seven, eight more months before you know exactly what's gonna happen in 24. I would imagine that the percentages.
We see an even higher percentage of medical and auto service assets as part of that investment total in 2024.
Hard to predict.
Full year volumes because.
You'll still be sourcing deals for 74 months before.
Lastly, what's going to happen in 'twenty four.
I would imagine that the percentages absent chunky portfolio will remain relatively consistent with what we've done in the past.
Bill: Apps and Chunky Portfolio will remain relatively consistent with what we've done in the past. The pipeline is quite decent. I would say that, you know, we look at the pipeline in a green, yellow, orange, red, color-coded way, green being deals that we intend to close in the near-term, yellow being that we're negotiating LOIs, orange being on the radar, and red being out there in the ether. We don't know whether they're going to happen, but they're certainly not close.
The pipeline is quite decent I would say that we look at the pipeline and a green.
Yellow orange Red.
Color coded way green being deals that we intend to close in the near term yellow.
That were negotiating LOI is orange being on the radar.
Red being out there in the ether, we don't know whether theyre going to happen, but they are certainly not close.
Bill: I would say we've got a lot of things in the orange pipeline right now that if we had a little bit better cost of capital and could lean into, we think would actually have pretty sensible ROAs associated with them or unlevered IRRs, however you want to look at it. It's just that all of these things, in addition to funding through the current equity and debt capital markets, make it a little bit harder. It's really as much a function of sources of capital as it is what we could deploy that capital for.
I would say, we've got a lot of things in the Orange pipeline right now that if we.
I had a little bit of better cost of capital and could lean into we think would have actually pretty sensible roadways.
And associated with them or Unlevered IRR. However, you want to look at it it's just.
Funding with the current equity and debt capital markets makes it a little bit harder so.
It's really as much a function of.
Yes.
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Bill: Thanks for the color and actually on the potential for any big portfolio deals. Are there any that are interesting that Four Corners is currently looking at? Oh, we're always, you know, we're always looking at deals of various sizes, and you've seen throughout our history, there's been, oh, I don't know, a half dozen deals, whether it's the original Chili's portfolio or Pat's Cheddar's deal last summer or large out parcel transactions. We're always working on something. But this is, as we mentioned in the remarks, this is And so we're seeing more deals where the seller pulls their assets from the market than we have in the past.
Sure.
Yeah.
Got it thanks for the color actually on the potential for any big portfolio deals are there any ones that are interesting. The four corners is currently looking at.
Oh, we're always we're always looking at.
Deals.
Various sizes and Youll, you've seen throughout our history there has been.
I don't know a half dozen deals whether it's the original chili's portfolio or.
Pat's shutters deal last summer or large parcel transactions, we're always working on something.
But this is.
As we mentioned in the remarks, this is a market where buyers and sellers are.
30, 40 basis points apart on where they are willing to transact and so we're seeing more deals.
The seller pools.
Their assets from the market than we have in the past.
Bill: Got it. That's it for me. Thank you. This concludes our Q&A. I'll now hand back to Bill Lenihan for final remarks. Thank you, Elliot. Well, I'm pleased to have the call conclude at about the 20 minute mark, as we were able to accomplish in our early days. Hopefully, we can get back to that.
Got it.
Thank you.
Great.
This.
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Thank you Elliot well I'm pleased to have the call conclude in about the 20 minute Mark.
We're able to accomplish in our early days hopefully we can get back to that.
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