Q4 2023 Driven Brands Holdings Inc Earnings Call
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Operator: Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Joel Arnau, Senior Vice President of Finance. Joel, you may begin your conference. Good morning, and welcome to Driven Brands' fourth quarter and 2023 earnings conference. The earnings release and the leverage ratio reconciliation are available for download on our website at investors.drivenbrands.com. On the call today with me are Jonathan Fitzpatrick, President and Chief Executive Officer. Danny Rivera, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer, and Gary Ferrera, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.
Good morning, and welcome to driven brands fourth quarter, and 2023 earnings conference call.
The earnings release, and the leverage ratio reconciliation are available for download on our website at investors got driven brands Dot com.
On the call today with me are Johnathan Fitzpatrick, President and Chief Executive Officer.
Danny Rivera Executive Vice President and Chief operating Officer, and Gary Ferrera, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.
Joel Arnau: In a moment, Jonathan, Danny, and Gary will walk you through our financial and operating performance for the quarter and fiscal year 2023. Before we begin our remarks, I'd like to remind you that management will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. You can find the reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures on the company's investor relations website and in its filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. During the course of this call, we may also make four forward-looking statements in regards to our current plans, beliefs, and expectations. These statements are not guarantees of future performance and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results and events to differ materially from the results and events contemplated by these forward-looking statements.
In a moment, Jonathan Danny and Garry will walk you through our financial and operating performance for the quarter and fiscal year 2023.
Before we begin our remarks I would like to remind you that management will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures.
You can find the reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures on the company's Investor Relations website and in its filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
During the course of this call. We May also make forward looking statements in regards to our current plans beliefs and expectations. These statements are not guarantees of future performance and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results and events to differ materially from the results and event.
As contemplated by these forward looking statements.
Joel Arnau: Please see our earnings release and our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission for more information. Today's prepared remarks will be followed by questions and answers. We ask you to limit yourself to one question and one follow-up.
Please see our earnings release, and our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission for more information today's prepared remarks will be followed by a question and answer session.
We ask you to limit yourself to one question and one follow up now I'll turn it over to my partner Jonathan.
Jonathan Fitzpatrick: Now I'll turn it over to my partner, Jonathan. Good morning, we appreciate everyone joining us to discuss Driven Brands' fourth quarter and full year 2023 financial results. I want to acknowledge the hard work and strong execution by our more than 10,000 Driven Brands team members and our amazing franchisees for how they continue to navigate an extremely dynamic macroeconomic environment. Now, it's been several months since we last communicated, and I'm pleased to report that we delivered on our latest guidance for Q4 and fiscal year 2023. Let me review some of our fiscal year 2023 highlights before turning it over to Danny, who will discuss our operating segments, and Gary, who will detail our fourth quarter financial results and full year 2024 outlook.
Good morning, we appreciate everyone joining us to discuss driven brands fourth quarter and full year 2023 financial results.
Want to acknowledge the hard work and strong execution by our more than 10000, driven brands team members and our amazing franchisees for how they continued to navigate an extremely dynamic macroeconomic environment.
Now it's been several months since we last communicated and I am pleased to report that we delivered on our latest guidance for Q4 and fiscal year 2023.
Let me review some of our fiscal year 2023 highlights before turning it over to Danny who will discuss our operating segments and Gary who will detail our fourth quarter financial results and full year 2020 for outlook.
Jonathan Fitzpatrick: For fiscal year 2023, we delivered 13 percent revenue growth versus the prior year, supported by 7% same store sales growth and 4% net store growth, achieving adjusted diluted EPS of $0.93. We continue to be pleased by the performance of our Take 5 oil change and franchise businesses, all being key contributors to fiscal year 2023 growth. I want to take a few moments to speak about one of the key drivers of our performance. Take five, all.
For fiscal year, 2023, we delivered 13% revenue growth versus prior year.
Supported by 7% same store sales growth and 4% net store growth achieving adjusted diluted EPS of <unk> 93.
We continue to be pleased by the performance of our take five oil change and franchise businesses all being key contributors to fiscal year 2023 growth I want to take a few moments to speak about one of the key drivers of our performance take five oil change.
Jonathan Fitzpatrick: We have grown this business from less than 60 solely company-operated locations in 2016 to over 1,000 locations today, comprised of approximately 65% company stores and approximately 35% franchises. Looking back on some 2023 milestones for Take 5 Oil Change. We celebrated our 1,000th store opening, our 300th franchise store opening, and we exceeded $1 billion in annual system-wide sales, all while maintaining an industry-leading net promoter score of approximately 77%. Take 5 All Change system-wide sales grew by 26% year-over-year, driven by 14% same-store sales and 18% unit growth. We opened 98 franchise locations and 59 company locations in fiscal year 2023.
We have grown this business from less than 60 solely company operated locations in 2016 to over 1000 locations today comprised of approximately 65% company stores and approximately 35% franchise stores.
Looking back on some 2023 milestones for take five oil change we celebrated our 1000 store opening or 300 franchise store opening and we exceeded $1 billion in annual system wide sales.
All while maintaining an industry, leading net promoter score of approximately 77%.
Take five oil change system wide sales grew by 26% year over year drew.
Driven by 14% same store sales and 18% unit growth.
We opened 98 franchise locations and 59 company locations in fiscal year 2023.
Jonathan Fitzpatrick: Now looking ahead, between company and franchise stores, we have a pipeline of over 1,000 stores expected to open in the coming years, approximately 75% of which will be franchised. Some additional highlights for Driven in 2023 include building out our U.S. glass platform and strong performance from our asset-light, high-margin franchise business. Additionally, our fleet team delivered our best ever year with approximately $470 million in system-wide sales. Now, our total commercial business represents approximately 50% of total system-wide sales when you include sales from our insurance partners in glass, collision, and paint. Commercial sales are incredibly important to Driven because our franchisees like the business, and the sales are predictable and sticky. This is a great balance to our retail. Now, we are turning to 2024.
Now looking ahead between company and franchise stores, we have a pipeline of over 1000 stores expected to open in the coming years.
Approximately 75% of which will be franchised.
Now some additional highlights for driven in 2023 include building out our U S glass platform and strong performance from our asset light high margin franchise businesses.
Additionally, our fleet team delivered our best ever year with approximately $470 million of.
System wide sales.
Now our total commercial business represents approximately 50% of total system wide sales. When you include sales from our insurance partners in glass collision and paint.
Commercial sales are incredibly important to driven because our franchisees liked the business and the sales are predictable and sticky.
This is a great balance to our retail sales.
Now turning to 2024.
January was a challenging month with sales being impacted by multiple storms flooding and freezing temperatures across many of our markets.
Jonathan Fitzpatrick: January was a challenging month, with sales being impacted by multiple storms, flooding, and freezing temperatures across many of our markets. And we estimate this could negatively impact performance in Q1. However, we don't see this having a material impact on the full year. We have made and continue to make progress to improve the underperformance in our U.S. car wash and U.S. glass business. Now, let me give you an update on our full car wash segment. The headline is that we improved margins from approximately 17% in Q3 to over 23% in Q4. This approximate 600 basis point improvement was primarily from our U.S. operations. This is the result of great work from Danny, who has been focusing on the U.S., and continued performance from Tracy and our international team.
And we estimate this could negatively impact performance in Q1, However, we don't see this having a material impact on the full year.
We have made and continue to make progress to improve the underperformance in our U S Carwash and U S glass businesses.
Now let me give you an update on our full Carwash segment.
The headline is that we improved margins from approximately 17% in Q3 to over 23% in Q4.
This approximate 600 basis point improvement was primarily from our U S operations.
This is the result of great work from Danny who has been focusing on the U S and continued performance from Tracy and our international team.
As mentioned on our previous earnings call. We have stopped all growth capital and we will not open new U S. Carwash stores until we determine the base business is performing up to our expectations.
Additionally, the team is making good progress on divesting any pipeline properties, we owned when we made this decision.
Jonathan Fitzpatrick: As mentioned in our previous earnings call, we have stopped all growth capital and will not open new U.S. car wash stores until we determine the base business is performing up to our expectations. Additionally, the team is making good progress on divesting any pipeline properties we owned when we made this decision. And we expect that during fiscal year 2024, we will likely see a meaningful return of capital from selling these pipeline sites. Now switching to U.S. Glass, as of today, the integration of all the acquisitions is behind us.
And we expect that during fiscal year 2024, we will likely see a meaningful return of capital from selling these pipeline sites.
Now switching to U S glass as of today the integration of all of the acquisitions is behind us.
The team is now focused on improving performance and positioning for future growth.
And Danny will provide further color in his remarks.
The main focus for 2024 is delivering our guidance, reducing debt and finally active portfolio management, which means making sure that driven has the right assets to execute on our short medium and longer term goals.
In conclusion, we have a platform that generates high steady state returns with a long runway for reinvestment at exceptional returns.
Jonathan Fitzpatrick: The team is now focused on improving performance and positioning for future growth, and Danny will provide further color in his remarks. Now, my focus for 2024 is delivering on our guidance, reducing debt, and finally, active portfolio management, which means making sure that Driven has the right assets to execute on our short, medium, and longer-term goals. In conclusion, we have a platform that generates high steady-state returns with a long runway for reinvestment at exceptional returns.
And we are incredibly motivated to see our valuation mirror our results overtime.
Now, let me hand, it over to Danny our Chief operating officer to discuss our key business segments.
Thanks, Jonathan.
During the fourth quarter, our team really rolled up their sleeves and got to work on the commitments. We made to finish 2023 strong and set the foundation for growth in 2024.
I'd like to thank our team members and franchisees for all their hard work and for a strong fourth quarter as Jonathan has said driven as growth and cash.
When it comes to running the businesses I think and manage them accordingly.
Businesses like take five oil change auto glass now and platforms like driven advantage, our managed to deliver accelerated growth in terms of revenue adjusted EBITDA and new units.
Danny Rivera: And we're incredibly motivated to see our valuation mirror our results over time. Now, let me hand it over to Danny, our Chief Operating Officer, to discuss our key business segments. Thanks, Jonathan.
Cash businesses like Meineke, Mako car Star and one 800 radiator are managed to deliver strong margins and cash flow.
With that background, let's dive into take five oil change homeowners stay in your car 10 minute all change this.
Danny Rivera: During the fourth quarter, our team really rolled up their sleeves and got to work on the commitments we made to finish 2023 strong and set the foundation for growth in 2024. I'd like to thank our team members and franchisees for all their hard work and for a strong fourth quarter. As Jonathan has said, driven is growth and cash. When it comes to running the businesses, I think about and manage them accordingly. Businesses like Take 5 Oil Change, Autoglass Now, and platforms like Driven Advantage are managed to deliver accelerated growth in terms of revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and new units. Cash businesses like Meineke, Mako, Carstar, and 1-800-RADIATOR are managed to deliver strong margins and cash flow. With that background, let's dive into Take 5 Oil Change, home of the Stay-In-Your-Car 10-Minute Oil Change.
This quarter on a year over year basis take five delivered over 9% revenue growth same store sales growth of about 7% adjusted EBITDA growth of almost 14% and we expanded adjusted EBITDA margins by about 150 basis points.
Moreover, take five opened an additional 54 stores in the fourth quarter 2008 company locations and 26 franchise locations once.
Once again take five oil change has met or outpaced our competition.
Take five oil change has delivered positive same store sales growth for 14 quarters in a row by delivering fast friendly and simple oil changes with a net promoter score and the upper seventies.
We also remain poised to continue to grow take five oil change by over 150 units per year for the foreseeable future with a majority of those sites being asset light franchise locations.
Congratulations to <unk> president of take five oil change and our take five team members and franchisees on opening their 1000th location and 300 franchise location in 2023.
Danny Rivera: This quarter, on a year-over-year basis, Take 5 delivered over 9% revenue growth, same store sales growth of about 7%, adjusted EBITDA growth of almost 14%, and we expanded adjusted EBITDA margins by about 150 basis points. Moreover, Take 5 opened an additional 54 stores in the fourth quarter, 28 company locations and 26 franchise locations. Once again, Take 5 Oil Change has met or outpaced our competition. Take 5 Oil Change has delivered positive same-store sales growth for 14 quarters in a row by delivering fast, friendly, and simple oil changes with a net promoter score in the upper 70s. We also remain poised to continue to grow Take 5 by over 150 units per year for the foreseeable future, with the majority of those sites being AssetLite franchise locations.
Within our <unk> segment I want to provide more color on our auto glass now business I'm happy to say that as of today the integration is behind us.
Aldo glass now is operating as one brand with one operating playbook.
We have implemented our core systems and processes, including one point of sale system, one phone and lead management system, one payroll system and comp plan and we've centralized purchasing.
I would like to thank Michael Macaluso, EVP of our <unk> segment, and the entire business and shared services team for working diligently to position auto glass now for improved performance in 2024.
Moving onto our platform services segment, which is comprised of our distribution and procurement businesses.
We delivered a strong year with double digit growth in both revenue and adjusted EBITDA, while simultaneously increasing margins.
Launched in 2023, driven advantage is an Amazon like marketplace, where managers or owners of automotive businesses can purchase everything they need to run their shop.
This includes everyday items like pens, and computer paper to industry specific products like oil and paint.
Danny Rivera: Special congratulations to Mo Khalid, president of Take 5 Oil Change, and our Take 5 team members and franchisees on opening their 1,000th location and 300th franchise location in 2023. Within our P, C, and G segment, I want to provide more color on our Auto Glass Now business. I'm happy to say that as of today, the integration is behind us. Autoglass Now is operating as one brand with one operating plate.
Driven advantaged truly is a win win win.
Franchisees win by leveraging driven scale and buying power to lower their cost and increase their profits.
Vendors win by generating revenue more efficiently across a captive audience.
And driven wins by capturing margin on sales that flow through the platform without holding any inventory.
How Marshall EVP of platform services and his team have done a great job in a short period of time.
As of December 32023 over 'twenty, 300 locations, including over half of eligible U S driven locations have generated over $240 million and transactions.
Danny Rivera: We have implemented our core systems and processes, including one point-of-sale system, one phone and lead management system, one payroll system and comp plan, and we've centralized purchasing. I'd like to thank Michael Macaluso, EVP of our PC&G segment, and the entire business and shared services team for working diligently to position AutoglassNOW for improved performance in 2024. Moving on to our Platform Services segment, which is comprised of We delivered a strong year with double-digit growth in both revenue and adjusted EBITDA, while simultaneously increasing margins. Launched in 2023, Driven Advantage is an Amazon-like marketplace where managers or owners of automotive businesses can purchase everything they need to run their shops. This includes everyday items like pens and computer paper to industry-specific products like oil and paint.
I'll wrap up my overview with our car wash segment.
Our main focus in Q4 was to improve the variable cost structure of the U S business.
Thanks to a lot of focus and diligence by our field teams. We successfully grew our segment adjusted EBITDA margins by over 600 basis points sequentially with most of the improvement coming from our U S business, mostly due to our continued focus on detergent costs and labor.
Although we continued to see softer retail volumes in the U S, particularly in January due to the winter storms and freezing temperatures across the country. We feel good about the improvements we've made to the variable cost structure of our U S car wash business.
Our international car wash business under the leadership of Tracey gallon continues to deliver quarter after quarter of solid business performance with the fourth quarter being no exception.
Historically, we haven't discussed our legacy franchise businesses too often but these businesses are an important part of driven with DNA.
Businesses like Meineke Mako in car Saar are amazing businesses run by Amazing franchisees.
These are efficient cash generating businesses that perform to expectations quarter after quarter in.
In 2023, each of these businesses delivered positive revenue and double digit adjusted EBITDA growth.
Danny Rivera: Driven Advantage truly is a win-win-win. Franchisees win by leveraging Driven's scale and buying power to lower their costs and increase their profits. Vendors win by generating revenue more efficiently across a captive audience, and Driven Wins by capturing margin on sales that flow through the platform without holding any inventory. Kyle Marshall, EVP of Platform Services, and his team have done a great job in a short period of time. As of December 30, 2023, over 2300 locations, including over half of eligible U.S.
So because these are capital light franchise businesses. They produced the adjusted EBITDA margins in excess of 50%.
Lastly, I'm thrilled to say that we've recently made some strategic hires within the businesses.
Within the next 60 days Youll see press releases from us announcing a new president of our U S car wash business, an SVP of operations for take five oil change and a new chief revenue officer for auto glass now.
Thrilled with these hires and believe each of these individuals will be instrumental in growing these important businesses.
I'll now turn it over to my partner and CFO Gary.
Danny Rivera: Driven locations have generated over $240 million in transactions. I will wrap up my overview with our car wash segment. Our main focus in Q4 was to improve the variable cost structure of the U.S. business. Thanks to a lot of focus and diligence by our field teams, we successfully grew our segment-adjusted EBITDA margins by over 600 basis points sequentially, with most of the improvement coming from our U.S. business, mostly due to our continued focus on detergent costs and labor. Although we continue to see softer retail volumes in the U.S., particularly in January due to the winter storms and freezing temperatures across the country, we feel good about the improvements we've made to the variable cost structure of our U.S. car wash business. Our international car wash business, under the leadership of Tracy Gellin, continues to deliver quarter after quarter of solid business performance, with the fourth quarter being no exception. Historically, we haven't discussed Businesses like Meineke, Mako, and Carstar are amazing businesses run by amazing franchisees.
Thanks, Danny and welcome everyone before diving into our results I would like to start out by discussing two administrative points first we are making a change to how we report our non-GAAP financial measures.
Starting with the filing of our 10-K, we will no longer add back straight line rent to arrive at adjusted EBITDA adjusted income and adjusted EPS.
As a reminder, this adjustment consisted of the noncash portion of rent expense.
This adjustment in FY 2023 was $18 2 million.
And the approximate quarterly breakout is as follows Q.
Q1, $4 4 million.
Q2, $4 6 million.
Q3, $5 2 million.
And in Q4 $4 million.
We estimate that in FY 2020 for the adjustment would approximate $15 million.
We are using this earnings release as an opportunity to smoothly transition to a revised reporting.
You will see it reported both ways in our earnings release for both total company and segment adjusted EBITDA.
Gary W. Ferrera: These are efficient, cash-generating businesses that perform to expectations quarter after quarter. In 2023, each of these businesses delivered positive revenue and double-digit adjusted EBITDA growth, also because these are capital light franchise businesses. Lastly, I'm thrilled to say that we've recently made some strategic hires within the business. Within the next 60 days, you'll see press releases from us announcing a new president of our U.S. car wash business, an SVP of operations for Take 5 Oil Change, and a new Chief Revenue Officer for Auto Glass Now. I'm thrilled with these hires and believe each of these individuals will be instrumental in growing these important businesses. I will now turn it over to my partner and CFO, Gary. Thanks, Danny, and welcome, everyone.
Million dollars and we generated slightly more we said we would deliver approximately $535 million, an adjusted EBITDA and we delivered $535 $1 million.
A just a diluted EPS came in at 93.
Which is just above the outlook of 92 cents per share that we provided.
I want to thank all our team members for their efforts in getting us across the finish line this year.
I will now dive a little deeper into our full year results system wide sales for the year, where six $3 billion up 12.1% versus prior year. This.
This growth was driven by both the addition of 183 net new stores and seven 4% same store sales growth.
Gary W. Ferrera: Before diving into our results, I would like to start out by discussing two administrative points. First, we are making a change to how we report our non-GAAP financial measures. Starting with the filing of our 10K, we will no longer add back straight-line rent to arrive at adjusted EBITDA.
Reported revenue for the year was $2 $3 billion, an increase of $13 3%.
We delivered adjusted EBITDA of $535 $1 million for the year, an increase of 4.2%.
And Justin EBITDA margin was 23.2% approximately 200 basis points below the prior year, primarily driven by U S. Carwash store growth and increased rent from sale leasebacks related to that store growth as well as the impact of working through the integration of multiple use glass acquisitions.
Gary W. Ferrera: Adjusted Income, and Adjusted EPS. As a reminder, this adjustment consisted of the non-cash portion of rent expense. This adjustment in FY 2023 was $18.2 million, and the approximate quarterly breakdown is as follows. Q1, $4.4 million. Q2 $4.6 million, Q3 $5.2 million, and in Q4 $4 million. We estimate that in FY 2024, the adjustment would approximate $15 million.
Margin was also impacted by the increase in company owned stores versus franchise stores.
Now I will focus on some key components below adjusted EBITDA.
Depreciation and amortization expense totaled $175 million for the full year.
Reflecting of $28 million increase from the prior year, mainly due to company owned store growth.
Additionally, interest expense was $164 million, a $50 million increase from 2022, driven by the full year impact of the 2022 notes the.
Gary W. Ferrera: We're using this earnings release as an opportunity to smoothly transition to our revised reporting. You will see it reported both ways in our earnings release for both Total Company and segment-adjusted EBITDA. To minimize confusion, I will primarily use the previous methodology in my remarks until I start discussing the full year 2024 outlook. Second, we will no longer be providing the same store sales growth metric for the platform services segment as it only applied to 1-800-RADIATOR, a small portion or approximately 15% of the segment's revenue for the fourth quarter, and therefore is not a representative indicator of the segment's performance. However, system-wide sales for 1-800-RADIATOR are still available in our filing.
The higher interest rates on our variable rate debt and increased utilization of the revolver.
Are effective tax rate for the year was approximately 12%. This is significantly lower than FY 2002, primarily due to the impact of the goodwill impairment recorded in Q3 of FY 2003.
We delivered adjusted net income of $155 $9 million and adjusted diluted EPS of 93.
Which were down 25% in 2003, 0.8% year over year, respectively.
The change year over year is driven primarily by the increased depreciation and interest expense.
You can find a reconciliation of adjusted net income adjusted EPS and adjusted EBITDA in today's earnings release.
For clarity our results under our revised reporting which will no longer add back straight-line rent expenses are as follows adjusted EBITDA of $516 $9 million adjusted.
Gary W. Ferrera: Now I will discuss our results. I joined Driven Brands just over nine months ago, and we've been laser focused on delivering the outlook we provided in early August, while also stabilizing parts of the business in order to set ourselves up to deliver a strong 2024. I am pleased to say that we met or exceeded all the financial metrics that we provided in our updated 2023 outlook. We guided for revenue of approximately $2.3 billion, and we generated slightly more. We said we would deliver approximately $535 million in adjusted EBITDA, and we delivered $535.1 million. Adjusted Diluted EPS came in at $0.93, which is just above the outlook of $0.92 per share that we provided. I want to thank all our team members for their efforts in getting us across the finish line this year.
Justin net income of $142.5 million and adjusted diluted EPS of 85.
In 2023, we delivered $235 million in cash flow from operating activities, an increase of 19.3% are up $38 million versus 2022.
This is after spending approximately $20 million towards the development of a new ERP system during the year.
Capital expenditures for the year, where $596 million offset by $195 million of proceeds from sale leaseback activity.
Net leverage at year end with $4 96 times.
Now moving on to the fourth quarter as a reminder, FY twenty-three with a 52 week year, but FY 2002 was a 53 week here.
Therefore in Q4 2023, we are comparing against the prior year quarter that had one additional week.
On a consolidated basis versus Q4 2022, our system wide sales were $1.5 billion, representing a 3% increase from the prior year period.
Driven by a 3.9% increase in same store sales.
Gary W. Ferrera: I will now dive a little deeper into our full year results. System-wide sales for the year were $6.3 billion, up 12.1% versus the prior year. This growth was driven by both the addition of 183 net new stores and 7.4% same-store sales growth.
Q for represented R 12 straight quarter of same store sales growth.
This translated into reported revenue for the quarter of $554 million, an increase of 2.6%.
This growth was primarily led by our maintenance and <unk> segments.
Adjusted EBITDA was $129 million down slightly versus $130 million in the same quarter last year, but in line with expectations provided on our last earnings call.
Fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA margin was 23, 3% down 87 basis points versus last year, primarily due to R. U S carwash and use glass businesses.
Gary W. Ferrera: Our reported revenue for the year was $2.3 billion, an increase of 13.3%. We delivered adjusted EBITDA of $535.1 million for the year, an increase of 4.2%. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 23.2%, approximately 200 basis points below the prior year, primarily driven by U.S. car wash store growth and increased rent from sale leasebacks related to that, as well as the impact of working through the integration of multiple U.S. glasses. Margin was also impacted by the increase in company-owned stores versus franchises. Now I will focus on some key components below adjustment, appreciation and amortization expense totaled $175 million for the full year, reflecting a $28 million increase from the prior year, mainly due to company-owned store, Additionally, interest expense was $164 million, a $50 million increase from 2022, driven by the full year impact of the 2022 notes, higher interest rates on our variable rate debt, increased utilization of the revolver, our effective tax rate for the year was approximately 12%.
Adjusted net income was 31 million for the quarter, resulting in adjusted diluted EPS for the quarter of 19 <unk>.
Versus 25% in the prior year period.
I will now focus on our queue for performance by segment.
We are pleased with the same store sales growth of 4.7% in maintenance our largest segment.
Revenue from this segment grew 8.9% over the prior year period.
This was primarily driven by our take five oil change business, which continues to perform strongly across both our franchise and company owned locations.
Maintenance segment, adjusted EBITDA margin increased by over 140 basis points versus Q4, 2000 2000 to.
Due to flow through from strong topline performance as well as continued focus on operational efficiency.
This drove an increase in the segment adjusted EBITDA of $13, 3% or $10.3 million to $87.5 million.
And our Carwash segment, we experienced the same store sales decline of 3.3% versus the prior year period.
This decline was driven by our use carwash operations.
Total segment revenue decreased 1% the.
The Carwash segment, adjusted EBITDA margin decreased to 23.2% in the quarter from $2006, 9% in Q4 2022, resulting in segment adjusted EBITDA of $38 million.
And our paint collision in glass segment, we achieved positive same store sales of $6, 4%, representing 11th straight quarters of same store sales growth.
Gary W. Ferrera: This was significantly lower than FY22, primarily due to the impact of the goodwill impairment recorded in Q3 of FY23. We delivered adjusted net income of $155.9 million and adjusted diluted EPS of $0.93, which were down 25% and 23.8% year-over-year, respectively. The change year over year is driven primarily by increased depreciation and interest. You can find a reconciliation of Adjusted Net Income, Adjusted EPS, and Adjusted EBITDA in today's earnings.
Segment, adjusted EBITDA margin was 27% versus 28.2% in Q4 2022.
Resulting in a $2.9 million decline and adjusted EBITDA.
This decline is directly to attributable to R. U S glass business, where we were working through the operational challenges Danny previously mentioned.
And our platform services segment revenue increased five 6% over the prior year period.
That form services segment, adjusted EBITDA was $18.6 million.
Margin decreased to 36.7% from 37.6% in Q4 2022 due to a positive one time item in the prior year period.
Gary W. Ferrera: For clarity, our results under our revised reporting, which will no longer add back straight-line rent and expenses, are as follows: adjusted EBITDA of $516.9 million, adjusted net income of $142.5 million, and adjusted diluted EPS of $0.85. In 2023, we delivered $235 million in cash flow from operating activities, an increase of 19.3% or up $38 million versus 2022. This was after spending approximately $20 million towards the development of a new ERP system during the year. Capital expenditures for the year were $596 million, offset by $195 million of proceeds from sale leaseback activities. Net leverage at year end was 4.96 times. Now, moving on to the fourth quarter.
I will now turn to our fiscal 2024 full year financial outlook.
As a reminder, or 2024 outlook no longer includes the straight line rent add back to adjusted EBITDA adjusted net income and adjusted EPS that I mentioned earlier.
Historically the company is provided point outlook, but going forward, we will use ranges.
For the full year, we expect revenue to be between 235 and $245 billion a growth rate of approximately 2% to 6% over 2023.
Adjusted EBITDA will be between 535 and $565 million a growth rate of approximately 4% to 9% over 2023.
And adjusted diluted EPS is expected to be between 88.
To one dollar a growth rate of approximately 4% to 18%.
The bottom end of our outlook reflects potential impacts from macroeconomic uncertainty and weather.
Gary W. Ferrera: As a reminder, FY23 was a 52-week year, but FY22 was a 53-week year. Therefore, in Q4 2023, we are comparing against a prior year quarter that had one additional week. On a consolidated basis versus Q4 2022, our system-wide sales were $1.5 billion, representing a 3% increase from the prior year period. Although driven by a 3.9% increase in same-store sales, Q4 represented our 12th straight quarter of same-store sales growth. This translated into reported revenue for the quarter of $554 million, an increase of 2.6%.
As Jonathan previously mentioned, we've seen significant storm activity across the nation. So far this year.
The range also reflects various rates of improvement in our U S carwash and use glass operations throughout the year.
The top end of our outlook is consistent with what we shared at our Investor day, the slight difference in revenue outlook versus what we shared that day is driven primarily by Refranchising enclosures of company owned stores and other asset dispositions since September of 2023.
However, we have held adjusted EBITDA as we continue to focus on cost efficiencies.
We expect same store sales growth of 3% to 5% for 2024.
Which primarily reflects continued growth in our maintenance segment as well as improvements and both are carwash and <unk> segments.
We expect net store growth of approximately 205 to 220 stores during the year.
Maintenance should be approximately 165% to 185% net new stores of which approximately 65% will be franchise.
Gary W. Ferrera: This growth was primarily led by our maintenance and PC&G segments. The adjusted EBITDA was $129 million, down slightly versus $130 million in the same quarter last year but in line with expectations provided on our last earnings call. But our margin, with 23.3 percent, down 87 basis points versus last year, primarily due to our U.S. Car wash and U.S. Glass business, adjusted net income was $31 million for the quarter, resulting in adjusted diluted EPS for the quarter of $0.19 versus $0.25 in the prior year period.
And our <unk> segment, we expect net store growth of 25% to 35 stores with 85% franchise.
And finally in our Carwash segment. We currently anticipate net store growth of five to 10 stores all in the international portion of the business.
We expect depreciation and amortization expense of approximately $175 million and we expect interest expense of approximately $170 million.
Are effective tax rate is expected to be approximately 35% in 2024, which is in line with our FY 2022 effective tax rate.
Gross capital investments are expected to be approximately $260 million, which is less than half of the amount spent in 2023 <unk>.
Gary W. Ferrera: I'll now focus on our Q4 performance by segment. We are pleased with the SameStore sales growth of 4.7% and maintenance, our largest segment. Revenue from this segment grew 8.9% over the prior year period. This was primarily driven by our Take 5 oil change business, which continues to perform strongly across both our franchise and company-owned locations. Maintenance segment adjusted EBITDA margin increased by over 140 basis points versus Q4 2022 due to flow through from strong top-line performance as well as continued focus on operational efficiency. This drove an increase in segment-adjusted EBITDA of 13.3%, or $10.3 million, to $87.5 million. In our car wash segment, we experienced a same store sales decline of 3.3% versus the prior year. This decline was driven by our U.S. car wash operation. Total segment revenue decreased 1%.
Capex spend is expected to be partially offset by approximately $40 million of sale leasebacks of our own real estate, primarily in our maintenance segment.
This results in net Capex of approximately $220 million, which is in line with what we shared our investor day in September.
As I mentioned at our Investor Day in September we have embarks on an enterprise resource planning or ERP project.
We are early in the process of replacing multiple legacy ERP systems with Oracle fusion. This is very similar to a successful implementation that we executed at a previous company, where I was CFO about five years ago.
While this is a significant investment in the future of our business use gap does not consider investments in cloud computing to be a capital investment.
Therefore, the ERP investment flows through cash flows from operating activities instead of cash used in investing activities.
We will spend approximately $30 million in 2024 on upgrading our ERP system.
Let me wrap up our discussion of our 2024 outlook by talking about the distribution of adjusted EBITDA throughout the year.
While we don't provide specific quarterly outlook, we thought it best to offer some direction as we expect significant variability in growth by quarter.
As I mentioned on previous calls we expect to see most of our adjusted EBITDA growth to come in the second half of the year as we lap weaker comparable and see continued improvement in our use carwash and use glass businesses.
Gary W. Ferrera: The car wash segment adjusted EBITDA margin decreased to 23.2% in the quarter from 26.9% in Q4 2022, resulting in segment adjusted EBITDA of $30.8 million. In our paint, collision, and glass segment, we achieved positive same-store sales of 6.4%, representing 11 straight quarters of same-store sales. The segment adjusted EBITDA margin was 27% versus 28.2% in Q4 2022, resulting in a $2.9 This decline is directly attributable to our U.S. glass business, where we were working through the operational challenges that Danny previously mentioned. In our platform services segment, revenue increased 5.6% over the prior year period. Platform Services Segment Adjusted EBITDA was $18.6 million; the margin decreased to 36.7% from 37.6% in Q4 2022 due to a positive one-time item in the prior year period.
We currently anticipate that approximately 80% of our total year over year dollar growth will fall in the second half.
Similar to 2023, we expect adjusted EBITDA to Peek in Q2, and then declined sequentially throughout the remainder of the year.
Additionally, as Jonathan mentioned earlier, we had major storms impacting large swath of the country in January.
Therefore, I am anticipating that even with maintaining strong cost controls over the next few weeks, we expect Q1 adjusted EBITDA to be in line with our queue for 2023 results and only slightly above R. Q1 2023 results.
In FY 2024, we will be laser focused on generating free cash flow and reducing debt as we move throughout the year.
Therefore, we currently estimate driving leveraged down to below four five times by year end with most of the reduction occurring in the second half of the year.
With that I will now turn it back over to the operator.
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Gary W. Ferrera: I will now turn to our fiscal 2024 full-year financial outlook. As a reminder, our 2024 outlook no longer includes the straight-line rent add back to adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income, and adjusted EPS that I mentioned earlier. Historically, the company has provided a point outlook, but going forward, we will use a range. For the full year, we expect revenue to be between $2.35 and $2.45 billion, a growth rate of approximately 2 to 6 percent over 2023. Adjusted EBITDA will be between $535 and $565 million, a growth rate of approximately 4% to 9% over 2020, and Adjusted Diluted EPS is expected to be between 88 cents and $1, a growth rate of approximately 4% to 18%. The bottom end of our outlook reflects potential impacts from macroeconomic uncertainty and weather. As Jonathan previously mentioned, we've seen significant storm activity across the nation so far this year.
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Your first question comes from the lineup Peter Pan.
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Oh, Hey, guys. Good morning, Thanks for thanks for taking the question.
First maybe Gary just as you think about the 2004.
EBITDA guidance growth in the range of $20 million to $50 million roughly.
Maybe talk about the buckets driving that.
I would assume the majority of that is coming from maintenance, but just maybe it's great.
Write that down a little bit more.
And as you think about Carwash.
Do you think that that EBITDA is down year over year or cannot be flat just any any color around that would be would be helpful. Thank you.
Yep got it.
So we don't guide specifically to segment EBITDA, we haven't in the past, we don't plan on going forward, but when.
Seems we've talked about so far obviously a lot of our growth is coming from take five oil right. So maintenance you'd expect obviously to be a little bit higher.
And.
Carwash.
Carwash and use collapses I mentioned are probably going to come along stronger as the year progresses.
So I don't Daniel if you have anything you want to add there, but I think that as far as I want to get with the segment.
Projections.
Nothing answer.
Okay now that's fine and then just.
Gary W. Ferrera: The range also reflects various rates of improvement in our U.S. car wash and U.S. glass operations throughout the United States. The top end of our outlook is consistent with what we shared at our investment meeting. The slight difference in revenue outlook versus what we shared that day is driven primarily by refranchising and closures of company-owned stores and other asset dispositions since September 2023. However, we have held adjusted even as we continue to focus on cost efficiency. We expect same-store sales growth of 3% to 5% for 2024, which primarily reflects continued growth in our maintenance segment as well as improvement in both our car wash and PC&G segments. We expect net store growth of approximately 205 to 220 stores during the year. Maintenance should be approximately 165 to 185 net new stores, of which approximately 65% will be franchised.
Second question would be really around the capital you guys expect from the.
From from monetizing the Carwash pipeline I don't know if you can speak to the timing of that magnitude.
An update on that that process and when do you think we have that kind of wrapped up thank you.
It's Jonathan Yeah, we kick that off into the queue late Q3 early early Q4 last year.
We've divested the first of those pipelines sites in early this year.
It will happen throughout the course of the year and meaningful.
For me, it's north of $100 million up.
Capital that should come back over the course of the year, but it will be fairly.
Spread out throughout the course of the year.
Okay. Thanks charts and good luck guys.
Thanks.
Your next question comes from the line upset Sigman come back. Please your line is open.
Hey, good morning, everyone I wanted to focus on the maintenance segment and the profitability. The margins there had been impressive they've generally exceeded I think expectations that you laid out from the very start can you just elaborate on the drivers and remind us how you think about the opportunities from here.
Hey, this is Danny thanks for the question so look.
Super Happy with the take five business as Jonathan mentioned in his opening remarks <unk>.
<unk> and the team has done an amazing job not just driving revenue, but also to your point kind of managing the middle of the P&L. So look most of the major drivers. There. We continued to manage labor quite effectively that's been a practice that's been going on for probably a year and a half now known the team have done a really nice job managing labor.
Gary W. Ferrera: In our PC&G segment, we expect net store growth of 25 to 35 stores, with 85% franchises. And finally, in our car wash segment, we currently anticipate net store growth of five to ten stores, all in the international portion of the business. We expect depreciation and amortization expense of approximately $175 million. We expect interest expense of approximately $170 million.
Also managing our our commodity costs in the middle of the P&L or something that the team has been focus on and.
And we've been using price quite effectively for the course of the last 18 months. So.
Really happy with that business really happy with the work that that Mo has been doing and also really happy with the the ship that we've been seeing MP mix right. So we've been seeing.
Customers kind of buying the upper end of our of our offerings there and that trend has continued for some time now so just really happy with the work that the team has been doing.
Gary W. Ferrera: Our effective tax rate is expected to be approximately 35% in 2024, which is in line with our FY 2022 effective tax rate. Gross capital investments are expected to be approximately 260 million, which is less than half of the amount spent in 2023. CapEx spend is expected to be partially offset by approximately $40 million of sale lease backs of our owned real estate, primarily in our maintenance segment. This results in net capex of approximately $220 million, which is in line with what we shared at our Investor Day in September. As I mentioned at our Investor Day in September, we have embarked on an Enterprise Resource Planning, or ERP, project. We are early in the process of replacing multiple legacy ERP systems with Oracle Fusion, very similar to a successful implementation that we executed at a previous company, where I was CFO for about five years. While this is a significant investment in the future of our business, U.S. GAAP does not consider investments in cloud computing to be a capital investment. Therefore, the ERP investment flows through cash flows from operating activities instead of cash used in investing activities.
Okay very helpful. So then I'll give pieters question. Another shot here as we think about the guidance.
I realize you don't want to break down the segments, but it would seem like based on the performance of maintenance and based on the trajectory that pretty much drives all of the EBITDA growth. So if that's right can you just help us frame some of the offsets. Thank you.
Seth Jonathan I'll I'll try and take this one really if you look at the EBITDA growth for 2024, it's very much in line with so that the three year outlook that we gave that Investor day, where the majority of the growth was coming from maintenance.
Supported by U S class and then supported by our procurement efforts and driven advantage. So those are the three areas that are consistent with the Investor day, as we think about growth in 2024, which obviously supports the thesis on the three year outlook as well.
Okay. Thanks, guys.
Thank you and your next question comes from the line of priests they'll call kind of <unk>.
Yeah. Thanks Dana.
Gaining image and take five comps were up 7% I'm just curious how much of that is coming from car count growth versus check growth and how do you expect that comp will breakdown over the course of this year for that business. And then also is there could be any new services offered in 24 to kind of help grow the check.
Hey, Chris. Thank you for the question so look as far as comp growth is concerned we don't get into the details of exactly which part you know how much of it is traffic versus Chuck.
Gary W. Ferrera: We will spend approximately $30 million in 2024 on upgrading our ERP. Let me wrap up our discussion of our 2024 Outlook by talking about the distribution of adjusted EBITDA throughout the year. While we don't provide specific quarterly outlook, we thought it was best to offer some direction as we expect significant variability in growth by quarter. As I mentioned on previous calls, we expect most of our adjusted EBITDA growth to come in the second half of the year as we pass weaker comparables and see continued improvement in our U.S. car wash and U.S. glass business. We currently anticipate that approximately 80% of our total year-over-year dollar growth will fall in the second half. Similar to 2023, we expect adjusted EBITDA to peak in Q2 and then decline sequentially throughout the remainder of the year. Additionally, as Jonathan mentioned earlier, we had major storms impacting large swaths of the country in January.
But suffice it to say the team's been growing both sides of that equation pretty healthily here for a long period of time. So we feel really good about the fact that number one we're growing comps and number two that we have a healthy balance and that growth.
Both car count and Chuck size.
From Ah New services perspective, we continue to really focusing on P mix I would say and then big five attachment. So <unk> for US you know think in terms of the types of oil that folks are buying so.
Whether it's kind of the lower end of the spectrum or the upper end of the spectrum for some time now we've been delivering successfully growing that payments into the upper end of the spectrum. So Mo and the team has done a really nice job of that and I see that continuing through 2024.
Towards the end of last year, we did add one item, which is which is a fuel additive service, hence, we're calling a big five now as opposed to big for historically.
That has been a nice kind of growth lever for us. This year. So it's an easy service it fits in really nicely with our fast friendly and simple model. So the team has done a nice job driving that and will continue to drive that through 2025 and the team also starting Q4 of last year started to focus in a little bit more on coolant, which is an existing service that we've been doing for some time.
And we've seen nice growth out of that service and that's a that's a really healthy margin service for us so.
Gary W. Ferrera: Therefore, I am anticipating that even with maintaining strong cost controls over the next few weeks, we expect Q1 Adjusted EBITDA to be in line with our Q4 2023 results and only slightly above our Q1 2023 results. In FY 2024, we will be laser focused on generating free cash flow and reducing debt as we move throughout the year. Therefore, we currently estimate driving leverage down to below 4.5 times by year-end, with most of the reduction occurring in the second half of the year.
We'll see more of that continue in 2025.
That's helpful. And then just quickly on Carwash can you help us understand what the margin recovery potential is from variable saving a variable cost savings I'm, just trying to understand where the cost savings kind of Max out and sales recoveries needed to get back to that 30 plus percent wash margin.
Yeah, Chris is Jonathan I'll take a shot at that we're pleased with the progress the sequential progress at a segment level from 17% to north of twenty-three in Q3 Q for.
As we think about 2024.
At a minimum we'd expect to sort of hold onto that sort of 23% consolidated margin and then obviously is Danny continues to work on the business hopefully get that expanded again, that's on a total carwash segment. So.
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I would hope that 23% is sort of a floor number and that will continue to chip away at that throughout the year.
Thanks, guys.
Thank you and your next question comes from the lineup <unk> from Bank of America miserable.
Hey, good morning, and thank you for taking my questions, maybe something with a Carwash segment interest if we could hear a little bit more on on what's being done what's needed to be done to get those those comps back positive.
I don't know if you could give us a timeline I'm curious if that's a possibility.
This year.
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Sure Jason Hey, this is Danny so look I'd say number one.
We look at Q for for those specifically enough for the U S. Carwash business, we really focused in on the variable cost structure that business, we wanted to get that right and we set out from the outset that we're going to focus on on that part of the business I think the team did a really nice job with a laser focus on mostly let's say labor and detergent costs and we saw that 600 bip improve.
Men sequentially there in Q4.
Coming into 2024, we're going to do two things right is the number one is let's hold onto that variable cost structure improvement that we that we.
Peter Jacob Keith: Thanks for taking the question. First, maybe Gary, just as you think about the 24 EBITDA guidance, growth in the range of 20 to 50 million, roughly, maybe talk about the buckets driving that. I'd assume the majority of that is coming from maintenance, but maybe if you could break that down a little bit more. And as you think about car washes, do you think that EBITDA is down year over year, or can that be flat? Just any color around that.
Delivered in Q4, and then shift our focus into really driving predictable revenue both on the retail side and the membership side. So so more to come in 2024, as we really lean into that part of the of the business.
That's great. Thank you and then at the follow up punch that I missed it but I wanted to pull up on platform services. It looks like the franchise sales were down quite a bit.
Four Q I think the revenue was actually up year over year. So I wasn't sure exactly what sort of dynamic was there apologize but was there any commentary on on what was driving that that system wide. Sarah My name is driven by the franchise sales means being down.
Yeah, I mean, that's the one 800 radiator business, which is a small piece of that I said I think in my script about 15% of the revenue of that of that segment.
Gary W. Ferrera: Yeah, Peter, got it. Yeah, so we don't guide specifically to segment EBITDA, we haven't in the past, and we don't plan on going forward. But when, you know, based on the themes we've talked about so far, obviously, a lot of our growth is coming from Take 5 Oil, right? So, maintenance, you'd expect, obviously, to be a little bit higher.
Got it okay, great with growth and everything else.
Mmm, Okay. That's helpful. Thanks.
Thank you and your next question comes from the line of Christian kind of email from J P. Morgan and your line is open.
Hi, good morning, Thanks for taking our questions.
I was wondering if you could talk about how membership penetration has been tracking and the carwash business and have you seen any improvement in there since the locations had been rebranded to take five and you've done some of the cross marketing work there.
And then to clarify when you talk to improvement in car wash and glass comps is is the expectation that they should come up positive or just lessen negative within in 2023.
Gary W. Ferrera: And car wash, US car wash, and US collapse, as I mentioned, are probably going to come along stronger as the year progresses. So, I don't, Danny, I don't know if you have anything you want to add there, but I think that's as far as I want to get with segment EBITDA, projections. I'm not going to answer that. Okay, no, that's fine.
Hey, Chris Danny again, so as far as the the Carwash membership question look we don't get into specific kpis on the membership side I will say, we're happy with the fact that in 2023, we did grow members. So that's good we are right now we're really focused on making sure that we have the right membership structure.
So it's less about the number of members that we have but having the right members at the right price you're going to see US continue to experiment with that here in the beginning of 2024 once we feel like we've got the right structure and program in place and you'll see as accelerate that through the back half of the year.
Jonathan Fitzpatrick: And then the second question would be really around the capital you guys expect from the monetization of the carwash pipeline. I don't know if you can speak to the timing of that or the magnitude, just an update on that process and when you think we'd have that that kind of wrapped up. Thank you. Hey Pete, it's Jonathan.
Got it that's helpful. And then could you talk about the path forward for glass and you still expect to be able to pick up some of the regional insurance business. Later this year or is that more of the 2025 storey.
And.
You've talked about 10% calibration penetration.
<unk> looking for guidance specific guidance here, but what where could you see this realistically going over the next year.
Jonathan Fitzpatrick: Yeah, we kicked that off in late Q3, early Q4 last year. We've divested the first of those pipeline sites early this year. I think it'll happen throughout the course of the year and be meaningful. For me, it's north of $100 million of capital that should come back over the course of the year, but it'll be fairly spread out throughout the course of the year. Okay. Thanks, Charlton.
Yes, great.
So from a glass perspective look I think first and foremost super excited about the fact that is Jonathan mentioned in his opening remarks as of today.
The integration work is behind US right. So very excited that the team can actually focused now on growing the business into 2024.
I think the path forward looks really good if we talk about the revenue side of the business. We've talked about this before there is basically three sites without <unk> got retail <unk> got commercial and insurance.
We grew all of those 2023, and we're going to really lean in and since 2024 and grow that side of the business.
Peter Jacob Keith: Good luck, guys. Your next question comes from the line of Seth Sigman from Barclays. Your line is open. Yeah, hey, Seth. This is Danny.
Particularly excited about seeing auto glass now really lean into the insurance side to your point with the regional insurers, particularly of 2024.
Danny Rivera: Thanks for the question. So look, yeah, we're super happy with the Take 5 business, as Jonathan mentioned in his opening remarks. Mo Khalid and the team have done an amazing job, not just driving revenue but also, to your point, kind of managing the middle of the P&L. So look, most of the major drivers there; we continue to manage labor quite effectively. That's been a practice that's been going on for probably, you know, a year and a half now.
From a calibration perspective calibration continues to be a tailwind for us. So part of the integration work that we did was really making sure that we had the stores outfitted with the right equipment that the team was trained and now we are able to capitalize on that part of the business. That's been a nice tailwind for us in 2023, and we we expect it to continue to be a nice too.
Wind for us going into 2024.
Got it thank you very much and best of luck.
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Mm.
Hi, Thanks, Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking the question.
Focusing on the take five I don't want to scoff at a 7% comp, but it did slow rather meaningfully sequentially from from Q3, it up 14, and I'm wondering if you're just slapping price increases or if you could give any color on continued to celebration are we going to settle adhered about 7%.
Danny Rivera: And Mo and the team have done a really nice job managing labor. Also, managing our commodity costs in the middle of P&L is something that the team has been focused on. And we've been using price quite effectively through the course of the last 18 months. So really happy with that business, really happy with the work that Mo has been doing. And also, really happy with the shift that we've been seeing in PMIX, right? So we've been seeing customers kind of buying the upper end of our offerings there. And that trend has continued for some time now.
Hey, Peter Thanks. Thanks for the question you look you hit it on the head right. So really the majority of that slowdown with just lapping over price increases that we took Q4 of 2022.
So.
Nothing systemic they're just lapping over some some price increases.
Okay very good and.
And then just on the 850 EBITDA target.
Maybe you can you can put some context around the straight line rent adjustment.
Does that make it harder to reach the target and it sounds like the guidance for this year is a little bit below what your thoughts because of some divestiture. So how does that kind of play into the the three year 850 target.
Hey, Peter Jonathan here, Yeah, I think the guidance for 2024 is literally exactly what we said it would be at Investor day. So if you could go back and look at that.
Danny Rivera: So, just really happy with the work that the team has been doing. Thanks guys. Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Jason Hans from Bank of America. Your line is open. That's great. Thank you.
The notes and comments from that I think it's very much in line with that in terms of the 850, the only change would be the whatever it is the $15 million of rent rent.
Jason Hans: And then as a follow-up, I apologize if I missed it, but I wanted to follow up on platform services. It looks like the franchise sales were down quite a bit in 4Q, but I think the revenue was actually up year over year. So I wasn't sure exactly what sort of the dynamic was there.
Rent adjustment that would be the only change to how we think about the 850 at this point yeah. Peter is the only place where that.
The EBITDA I said, we would hold the only place where they are.
<unk> you mentioned impacts was on the revenue side, some sales and stuff. So that did have revenue slightly lower but EBITDA is that.
Cost savings it'll make sure that we will get to the 24 number.
Okay very good thanks, so much.
Gary W. Ferrera: Apologies if I missed it, but was there any commentary on what was driving that system-wide sales? I think it was driven by the franchise sales being down. Yeah, I mean, that's the 1-800 radiator business, which is a small piece of that. I said, I think in my script about 15% of the revenue of that segment. Got it, okay. With growth and everything else.
Thank you Andy our next question comes from the lineup Zion Mcnamara Canaccord Genuity your lines Okay.
Good morning, this is Nancy.
Thanks to taking your questions.
Criminals and those are the currency.
<unk> and <unk> and wishing I could say the most fascinating and how many more location can't expect to close.
That is in your line was a little choppy, but I'll do my best to answer what I think your question was.
I think.
Broadly what we've said on prior calls as we expect sort of new unit growth in the U S market sort of in that.
700 range in 2023, we expect sort of a similar number in 2024.
Operator: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking our question. I was wondering if you could talk about how membership penetration has been tracking in the car wash business, and have you seen any improvement since the locations have been rebranded to take five and you've done some of the cross-marketing work there. And then to clarify, when you talk about improvement in car wash and glass comps, is the expectation that they should be positive or just less negative than in 2023? Hey, Chris, Danny again.
So I think there's definitely some markets generally not necessarily for us that have some saturation characteristics.
In terms of I think your next question was store closures.
Other than normal day to day management of our multi unit retail businesses, we don't foresee at this point in time any sort of wholesale closures.
Within our U S Carwash business at this point.
Thanks, so much.
Thank you Andy our next question comes from the lineup Simeon Gatlin Morgan Stanley at my New cell phone.
Hey, guys. Good morning, my questions first on EBITDA margin.
If the masters right on the adjustments it looks like the implied margins should grow by about 50, Bips and that's not rights and corrected and can can we think about that.
Danny Rivera: So as far as the Car Wash membership question, look, we don't get into specific KPIs on the membership side. I will say we're happy with the fact that, in 2023, we did grow our membership. So that's good. Right now, we're really focused on making sure that we have the right membership structure. So it's less about the number of members that we have but having the right members at the right price. You're going to see us continue to experiment with that here in the beginning of 2024, and once we feel like we've got the right structure and program in place, then you'll see us accelerate that through the back half of the year. I got it.
Relatives or proportionate to the sales growth by each business or is there a disproportionate.
Given cost savings or efficiency in one or more of the segments.
Yeah, Okay. That's a good question.
Work early this morning.
The when if I think of the different segments. I mean, you can expect just start with corporate go bottoms up.
See that being.
A big change from year to year. So that then then obviously the maintenance segment would be the biggest driver as we mentioned and then in the middle.
It's just a matter of how it how it falls outside I can't guide you to specific segments for the year, but as we mentioned before the biggest driver will be maintenance and and if you look through the thing all the way down to corporate corporate will probably it won't detract, but it probably won't add necessarily in the year.
Operator: That's helpful. And then could you talk about the path forward for Glass? Do you still expect to be able to pick up some of the regional insurance business later this year? Or is that more of a 2025 story?
But I mean, just to put a fine point on it you are 50 bps expansion is correct.
Okay, and then one follow up on Carwash I wanted to ask about this premiumization that's happening not everywhere. Obviously, one competitor is doing it but there do seem to be higher price points out in the marketplace curious does that help you.
Peter Jacob Keith: Thanks for taking the question. Just focusing on the Take 5, I don't want to scoff at a 7% comp, but it did slow rather meaningfully sequentially from Q3 at up 14, and I'm wondering if you're just lapping price increases or if you give any color on continued deceleration, or are we going to settle out here at about 7%? Hey, Peter, Jonathan here.
And that you are price points may be lower or are you are you, creating new services to match that from a differentiation perspective like how does that play into the Carwash business in the next year or so.
Jonathan Fitzpatrick: Yeah, I think the guidance for 2024 is literally exactly what we said it would be at Investor Day. So if you go back and look at that, the notes and comments from that, I think it's very much in line with that. In terms of the 850, the only change would be the, whatever it is, the $15 million rent adjustment. That would be the only change to how we think about the 850 at this point. Yeah, Peter, the only place where the EBITDA I said we would hold, the only place where the adjustment you mentioned impacts revenue, some sales, and stuff. So that did have revenue slightly lower, but EBITDA I said, you know, we'll have cost savings that will make sure that, Thank you. And your next question comes from the line of Brian McNamara from Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open. Good morning, this is Madison Kalanick. I'm not going to go in.
Yes, the pricing and the industry has been pretty consistent siemian over the last number of years that we've been in this space and we have not seen any major movement certainly in terms of lowering price. We've seen the addition of.
Premium premium products in there so you've seen at the top end of the range higher price points I think that it's important that we have a solid barbell strategy. When it comes to pricing. So that we've got the right entry level pricing that will drive trial and acquisition, which is obviously the feeder for getting people to become members. So I think we are continuing to sort of focus.
On a barbell strategy there and is Danny mentioned, we're working on some tests right now, which we think could be interesting to leverage pricing in a creative way to make sure that we have the right members in place in that car wash business. So I would say, we constantly look at it but again sort of this barbell approach is how we're thinking about it.
Okay. Thanks, guys. Good luck.
Thank you.
Thank you and your next question comes from the line can be lethal William.
William Daria 90 seconds.
Hi, This is Sabrina on <unk>. Thanks for taking my question, how do you view the house of the retail customer in the fourth quarter and then what are some of the key growth drivers for improvement in 2024.
Gary W. Ferrera: Thanks for taking your questions. How much industry capacity is expected to come online for car washes in 2024 and the next few years? Which markets are the most saturated, and how many more locations do you have?
Thanks, Sabrina I would say that were.
Continue to be pleased with the overall health of our.
Or retail customer again.
Again, I think it's important to remember the balance of the system wide sales and driven in that 50% of our customer bases commercial or.
Operator: In terms of, I think your next question was store closures, you know, other than normal day-to-day management of our multi-unit retail businesses, you know, we don't foresee at this point in time any sort of wholesale closures within our U.S. car wash business at this. Thank you, Andy. Our next question comes from the line of Simeon Gutman from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. If that's not right, then correct it.
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We have not seen anything that would tell us that we've got stress coming with the U S consumer retail consumer however.
We watch it very closely.
But at this point, we're sort of not seeing any any major major signs major movement inside of the health of the U S consumer at this point.
Okay. Thank you that's helpful. And then a quick follow up your guide for the new car wash openings around only international. So can you talk to us about the performance and growth factors of that segment going forward.
Yeah, we don't we.
Simeon Ari Gutman: And can we think about that in the marketplace? Curious, does that help you in that your price points may be lower? Or are you creating new services to match that, you know, from a differentiation perspective? Like, how does that play into the car wash business in the next year or so?
We don't split out sort of thing.
The details on U S versus an international all I will tell you is that Tracy on the team in Europe have done an exceptional job over the last three years in terms of managing that business and there is a lot of white space in Europe, and I think that we are putting some capital to work there to open I think we got it.
Operator: Okay, thanks guys. Good luck. Thank you. And your next question comes from the line by Philip Bleed from William Blair.
About five to 10, new store openings this year so.
Obviously that business continues to perform very strongly and we are not.
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Not going to put incremental capital into the U S business until we feel that businesses performing to the expectations we expect.
Got it helpful. Thank you.
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