Q4 2024 PagerDuty Inc Earnings Call

Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us to discuss Peter Judy's fourth quarter and full fiscal year 2024 results.

Operator: Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us to discuss PagerDuty's fourth quarter and full fiscal year 2024 results. With me on today's call are Jennifer Tejada, PagerDuty Chairperson and Chief Executive Officer, and Howard Wilson, our Chief Financial Officer.

Speaker Change: With me on today's call are Jennifer to Hot Tea, Judy's, Chairperson, and Chief Executive Officer, and Howard Wilson, Our Chief Chief Financial Officer.

Operator: Before we begin, let me remind everyone that statements made on this call include forward-looking statements based on the environment as we currently see it, which involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause our actual results, performance, or achievements to be materially different from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statement. These forward-looking statements include our growth prospects, future revenue, operating margins, net income, cash balance, and total addressable market, among others. These statements represent our management's beliefs and assumptions only as of the date such statements are made, and we undertake no obligation to update them. During today's call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which are in addition to, and not a substitute for, or superior to, measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP.

Speaker Change: Before we begin let me remind everyone that statements made on this call include forward looking statements based on the environment as we currently see it.

Speaker Change: Which involve known and unknown risks and uncertainties that may cause our actual results performance or.

Speaker Change: Our achievements to be materially different from those expressed or implied by the forward looking statements.

Speaker Change: These forward looking statements include our growth prospects future revenue operating margins net income.

Speaker Change: Cash balance and total addressable market among others.

Speaker Change: And represent our management's beliefs and assumptions only as of the date such statements are made and we undertake no obligation to update these.

Speaker Change: During today's call, we will make we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which are in addition to and not a substitute for or superior to measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP.

Operator: A reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures is available in our earnings release. Further information on these and other factors that could cause the company's financial results to differ materially is included in filings we make with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our most recently filed Form 10-K, as well as other subsequent filings made with the SEC. With that, I will turn the call over to Jennifer. Thank you, Tony. Good afternoon.

Speaker Change: A reconciliation between GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures is available in our earnings release.

Speaker Change: Further information on these and other factors that could cause the companys financial results to differ materially are included in filings, we make with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including our most recently filed Form 10-K as well as other subsequent filings made with the SEC.

Speaker Change: With that I will turn the call over to Jennifer.

Jennifer: Thank you Tony Good afternoon, and thank you for joining US today Patronize you delivered a solid fourth quarter to cap off another year of growth and substantial operating margin expansion, we demonstrated operating efficiency throughout the year and completed our second consecutive year of non-GAAP.

Jennifer G. Tejada: And thank you for joining us today. Pagerduty delivered a solid fourth quarter to cap off another year of growth and substantial operating margin expansion. We demonstrated operating efficiency throughout the year and completed our second consecutive year of non-gap profitability. On a full year basis, revenue grew 16% year over year, and non-gap operating margin expanded by over 1200 basis points to 13%. In the fourth quarter, revenue grew 10% to $111 million at the top end of our guidance range. Non-GAAP operating margin of 10% exceeded the high end of guidance with a year-over-year expansion of nearly 400 basis points.

Jennifer: GAAP profitability on a full year basis revenue grew 16% year over year and non-GAAP operating margin expanded by over 200 basis points to 13%.

Jennifer: In the fourth quarter revenue grew 10% to $111 million at the top end of our guidance range non-GAAP operating margin of 10% exceeded the high end of guidance with a year over year expansion of nearly 400 basis points.

Jennifer G. Tejada: Our steady progression up market underpinned our solid results. Expansion ARR, $100,000 transaction volume, and average deal size each improved sequentially. And with a higher mix of ARR coming from our enterprise segment, the visibility and predictability of our business also continue to improve. We achieved dollar-based net retention one point above our expectation, and we see it improving in FY25, along with total ARR growth. We added $13 million of net new ARR in Q4 and grew total ending ARR 10% to $452 million. Customers with two or more products contributed 62% of the total, an increase of four percentage points over the prior year.

Jennifer: Our steady progression up market underpinned our solid results expansion are our $100000 transaction volume and average deal size, each improved sequentially and with a higher mix of ore coming from our enterprise segment, the visibility and predictability of our business also continues to improve.

Jennifer: We achieve dollar based net retention one point above our expectation and we see it improving in FY 'twenty five along with total AOR growth.

Jennifer: We added $13 million of net new <unk> in Q4, and grew total ending <unk>, 10% to $452 million.

Jennifer: Customers with two or more products contributed 62% of the total an increase of four percentage points over the prior year.

Jennifer G. Tejada: To a large extent, the growth in both metrics was driven by increasing momentum in enterprise engagements, resulting in several multi-year operations cloud deployments within the Global 2000. During the fourth quarter, we gained traction within our enterprise segment, demonstrated by annual net new additions to our cohort of customers who spend more than $100,000, which doubled quarter over quarter. On an annual basis, our $1 million cohort increased 16% to 58%.

Jennifer: To a large extent the growth in both metrics driven by increasing momentum in enterprise engagements, resulting in several multiyear operations cloud deployment within the global 2000.

Jennifer: During the fourth quarter, we gained traction within our enterprise segment demonstrated by annual net new additions to our cohort of customers, who spend more than $100000, which doubled quarter over quarter.

Jennifer: On an annual basis or $1 million cohort increased 16% to 58. These results demonstrate the strong market that are paid to do these operations cloud for the world's leading brands seeking to modernize their operations.

Jennifer G. Tejada: These results demonstrate the strong market fit of PagerDuty's Operations Cloud for the world's leading brands seeking to modernize their operations. ARR from both new and existing customers exceeded Q3 levels in Q4, and we remain confident in delivering accelerated net new ARR growth in FY25. We shipped innovation across all four of our product pillars in FY24 and started FY25 with a markedly higher pipeline across automation, AIOps, incident management, and customer service operations, representing a strengthening demand signal from CIOs and CTOs with mandates to protect revenue, increase innovation velocity, improve productivity, and mitigate risk. For example, our AIOps solution introduced during the first half of FY24 is designed specifically for centralized IT teams and A complement to our developer-focused solution that was already in the market, AIOps uses machine learning to reduce noise, surface real-time content, and automate a wide variety of manual activities.

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Jennifer: We shipped innovation across all four of our product pillars in FY 'twenty, four and started FY 'twenty five with markedly higher pipeline across automation.

Jennifer: Incident management and customer service operations, representing a strengthening demand signal from CIO to the Cts with mandates to protect revenue increase innovation velocity improved productivity and mitigate risk.

Jennifer: For example, our AI solution introduced during the first half of FY 'twenty. Four is designed specifically for centralized teams and network operations site reliability engineering, and ATF, which comprised approximately $21 million global professionals.

Jennifer: Complement to our developer focused solution that was already in market.

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Jennifer G. Tejada: Unlike other AIOps solutions in the market, PagerDuty's solution is integrated into automated workflows, enabling customers to auto-remediate more and more of their ecosystem, reducing reliance and the cost of manual processes and people. Our cloud-based process automation solution reached functional parity with our self-managed on-prem offering during FY24, addressing numerous new IT use cases across service management and IT operations. In addition, several new features enable teams to leverage runbook automation in zero-trust environments, mitigating cybersecurity risks for enterprises, a large and growing investment area for our customers. Customer service operations added workflow automation capabilities from Salesforce Service Cloud, ServiceNow CSM, and Zendesk, unifying customer service teams and agents with technical teams that manage critical services and customer-facing applications.

Jennifer: Unlike other app solutions in market Pedro duty solution is integrated to automated workflows, enabling customers to auto remediate more and more of their ecosystem, reducing reliance and the cost of manual processes and people.

Jennifer: Our cloud based process automation solution reached functional parity with our self managed or on Prem offering during FY 'twenty for addressing numerous new <unk> use cases across service management and it operations. In addition, several new features enable teams to leverage Runback automation in zero Trust environment mitigate.

Jennifer: Cyber security risks for enterprises, a large and growing investment area for our customers.

Jennifer: Customer service operations added workflow automation capabilities from Salesforce service Cloud service now CSN and Zen desk unifying customer service teams and agents with technical teams that manage critical services and customer facing applications private status pages, along with Pedro duties generative AI based co pilot.

Jennifer G. Tejada: Private status pages, along with PagerDuty's generative AI-based co-pilot, enable companies to consolidate point solutions to save significant time and more effectively manage communications while responding to an incident. The acquisition of Jelly further differentiates our automated incident management solution from low-value, price-led on-call solutions and less scalable workflow tools. Today, our robust combined offering enables organizations to rapidly transform the learnings from incidents into a knowledge base for timely informed operational decisions. End-to-end incident management includes AI-assisted automated post-incident analysis and learning integrated into the CICD process, which helps customers continuously improve the efficiency with which they respond to and prevent further incidents.

Jennifer: <unk> enable companies to consolidate point solutions to save significant time and more effectively manage communications, while responding to an incident.

Jennifer: The acquisition of Jelly further differentiates our automated incident management solution from low value price led oncall solutions and less scalable workflow tool.

They are robust combined offering enables organizations to rapidly transform from learning rapidly transform the learnings from incidence into a knowledge base for timely informed operational decisions.

Jennifer: And to an incident management includes AI assisted automated posted incident analysis and learning integrated to the ICD process, which helps customers continuously improve the efficiency with which they respond to and prevent further incidents.

Jennifer G. Tejada: The innovation we've delivered across the Operations Cloud Platform addresses some of the enterprise's highest priority budgeted business initiatives, including digital business resilience, modern service management, customer experience management, and network operations center modernization. In fact, several Q4 wins validate our platform to problem fit, namely seven-figure CIO and CTO sponsored multi-year platform engagements at Global 2000 Companies. For instance, a customer within our software and technology vertical expanded to the full operations cloud footprint with us. Already a million-dollar customer, this well-known enterprise doubled down on Pagerduty when they understood the opportunity to protect revenue and mitigate risk by connecting their customer support team with their infrastructure, site reliability engineering, and business technology units. Before Pagerduty, and despite significant investments in observability, over 20% of incidents were still being reported by customers, putting their customer SLAs and retention at risk.

Jennifer: The innovation, we delivered across the operations pad platform addresses some of the enterprises highest priority budgeted business initiatives, including digital business resilience Modern service management customer experience management and network operations Center modernization in fact, several Q4 wins validate our platform.

Jennifer: To problems fit, namely seven figure CIO and CTO sponsored multiyear platform engagements at global 2000 companies.

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Jennifer: A customer within our software and technology vertical expanded to the full operations cloud footprint with us already a million dollar customer is well known enterprise doubled down on page 80, when they understood the opportunity to protect revenue and mitigate risk by connecting their customer support team with their infrastructure site reliability engineering and business Tech.

Jennifer: <unk> units before Pedro duty and despite significant investments in observer ability over 20% of incidents are still being reported by customers, putting their customer SLA and retention at risk.

Jennifer G. Tejada: They recognized the need to transform their customer experience while reducing operational risk, replacing point solutions to address fragmented operational gaps. Today, this customer has deployed all four product pillars of the Operations Cloud in a multi-year commitment, expanding to nearly twice the ARR. Another entertainment and media company with a significant global presence increased its ARR beyond two million dollars per year on a three-year term.

Jennifer: They recognize the need to transform their customer experience, while reducing operational risk, replacing point solutions to address fragmented operational gaps.

Jennifer: Today. This customer has deployed all four product pillars of the operations cloud in a multi year commitment expanding to nearly twice the IRR.

Jennifer: And entertainment and media company with a significant global presence increase that they are beyond $2 million per year on a three year term. This is a large global enterprise managing operational complexity across a diverse set of use cases from retail operations and on property experiences to digital streaming and of course.

Jennifer G. Tejada: This is a large global enterprise managing operational complexity across a diverse set of use cases from retail operations and on property experiences to digital streaming in a corporate culture where customer experience is at the very heart of their brand. In navigating top-down pressure to reduce costs and consolidate platforms, PagerDuty's proven ROI was central to the customer's decision to expand with us. They are now using the full operations cloud to improve digital resilience across all of their major business units and to protect their customer experience. Our partnership with AWS and the ability for customers to leverage the AWS marketplace were another key factor in this multi-year, multi-million dollar win. In Q4, we also expanded on a win we mentioned in Q2, the global semiconductor supplier who selected Pagerduty's workflow offering to standardize and better orchestrate their enterprise-wide automation efforts. This has become a common enterprise challenge, islands of automation that pop up across teams and functions, hindering a company's ability to scale efficiently.

Jennifer: The culture, where customer experience is at the very heart of their brand.

Jennifer: In navigating top down pressure to reduce costs and consolidate platforms Pedro <unk> proven ROI with central to the customer's decision to expand with US. They are now using the full operations cloud to improve digital resilience across all of their major business units and to protect their customer experience.

Jennifer: Our partnership with AWS and the ability for customers to leverage the AWS marketplace was another key factor in this multiyear multimillion dollar win.

Jennifer: In Q4, we also expanded on our way and we mentioned in Q2, the global semiconductor supplier, who selected Pedro duties workflow offering to standardize and better orchestrate their enterprise wide automation efforts. This is become a common enterprise challenge islands of automation that pop up across teams and functions hindering <unk>.

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Jennifer G. Tejada: In Q4, we expanded our relationship with this multibillion-dollar company, and we now support them with enterprise-grade incident management seamlessly integrated with automated workflows. Our fast time to value in Q2 earned us the right to solve even bigger problems with the operations cloud as they navigate ever-increasing complexity in pursuit of capturing an outsized share of the generative AI market. This customer use case is an appropriate analog for the long-term tailwind generative AI presents for our business. With the added complexity caused by both the volume of software created and the frequency of code updates that generative AI enables, we see generative AI fostering demand for the operations cloud, as it improves efficiency for developers, but also proliferates complexity and risk.

Jennifer: In Q4, we expanded our relationship with this multibillion dollar company and we now support them with enterprise grade incident management seamlessly integrated with automated workflows are fast time to value in Q2 earned us the right to solve even bigger problems with the operations cloud as they navigate ever increasing complexity in pursuit.

Jennifer: Of capturing an outsized share of the generative AI market.

Jennifer: These customers use case is an appropriate analog for the long term tailwind generative AI presents for our business with the added complexity caused by both the volume of software created and the frequency of code updates that generative AI enabled we see generative AI fostering demand for the operations cloud as it improves efficiency.

Jennifer: <unk> for developers, but also proliferates complexity and risk.

Jennifer G. Tejada: In turn, we continue to expand our own generative AI offerings with PagerDuty co-pilot features across our platform slated for general availability in the first half of this year and expected to contribute pipeline in the second half. These capabilities augment our existing AI and machine learning functionality, which is built on our proprietary and foundational data set and has been part of our value proposition for nearly a decade. In line with our mission to lead the market in innovation in order to revolutionize customer operations, we welcome Jeff Hausman as our Chief Product Development Officer. His extensive enterprise product development experience in service management, ITOM, and cybersecurity and deep domain expertise in enterprise position us well to continue our rapid innovation cadence and platform expansion. During the year, we also progressed our FedRAMP status to in-process, and we expect FedRAMP certification in the first half of FY25. In support of our expansion into the U.S. public sector and our ongoing focus on enterprise, we are thrilled to welcome Teresa Carlson, a former longtime AWS public sector business leader, to our board of directors.

Jennifer: In turn we continued to expand our own generative AI offerings with Pedro duty co pilot features across our platform slated for general availability in the first half of this year and expect it to contribute pipeline in the second half these capabilities augment our existing AI and machine learning functionality, which built on our proprietary and foundational.

Jennifer: Dataset had been part of our value proposition for nearly a decade.

Jennifer: In line with our mission to lead the market in innovation in order to revolutionize customer operations, we welcome Jeff housing as our Chief product Development Officer.

Jeff Housing: His extensive enterprise product development experience and service management item and cyber security and deep domain expertise in enterprise position us well to continue our rapid innovation cadence and platform expansion.

Jeff Housing: During the year, we also progressed, our fed Ram status to in process and we expect fed ramp certification in the first half of FY 'twenty five.

Jeff Housing: In support of our expansion into the U S public sector and our ongoing focus in enterprise. We are thrilled to welcome Teresa Carlson former longtime AWS public sector business leader to our board of directors.

Jennifer G. Tejada: By efficiently controlling the controllable elements of our business, we have solidified a scalable structure for growth, demonstrated enterprise platform fit, and entered the year with healthy go-to-market capacity poised to accelerate growth. The operations cloud platform resonates with executives due to its proven ability to reduce operational expenses, protect revenue, mitigate risk, all while improving innovation velocity. Developers remain at the forefront of both the customer experience and operational resilience. Our customers continue to face pressure to grow margins while also accelerating time to market in the face of an ongoing skills shortage. And developers confront the challenge of doing more with less yet managing increasingly fragile tech stacks.

Jeff Housing: By efficiently controlling the controllable elements of our business, we have solidified a scalable structure for growth demonstrated enterprise platform fit and entered the year with healthy go to market capacity poised to accelerate growth.

Jeff Housing: The operations cloud platform resonates with executives due to its proven ability to reduce operational expenses protect revenue mitigate risks all while improving innovation velocity.

Jeff Housing: Developers remain at the forefront of both the customer experience and operational resilience our customers continue to face pressure to grow margins. While also accelerating time to market in the face of an ongoing skills shortage and developers confront the challenge of doing more with less yet managing increasingly fragile tech stacks.

Jennifer G. Tejada: Not surprisingly, operational complexity is rising, and automation and generative AI are becoming core to operating speed at scale. We expect developer experience and efficiency to continue to be critical to business success for the world's most important brands, remaining a long-term tailwind for PagerDuty as we set the standard for developer best practices. Our leadership position continues to be validated and reinforced by industry analysts. Earlier this year, Forrester and GigaOM named PagerDuty AIOps a leader in their wave and radar reports in the fast-growing AIOps market. In Q4, GigaOM also named PagerDuty the overall leader in their radar evolution or evaluation of incident management platforms. Additionally, Gartner highlighted the PagerDuty Operations Cloud in a new market category in their market guide for artificial intelligence applications in IT service management. Lastly, our process automation offering is consistently ranked number one overall by users on G2 in their workload automation category and grid report.

Jeff Housing: Not surprisingly operational complexity is rising and automation and generative AI are becoming core to operating the speed at scale.

Jeff Housing: We expect developer experience and efficiency to continue to be critical to business success for the world's most important brands remaining long term tailwind for Pedro duty as we set the standard for developer best practices inherent in our platform.

Jeff Housing: Our leadership position continues to be validated and reinforced by industry analysts earlier this year Forrester and Giga AUM named paid your duty <unk> a leader in their wave and radar reports in the fast growing Iot market in Q4 Giga AUM also named paid your duty the overall leader in their radar evolution or evaluation of <unk>.

Jeff Housing: Incident management platforms. Additionally, Gartner highlighted the pager duty operations cloud and a new market category in their market guide for artificial intelligence applications in it service management.

Jeff Housing: Lastly, our process automation offering is consistently ranked number one overall by users on <unk> and their workload automation category and grid report.

Jeff Housing: Investing in and supporting our communities through social impact programs is a mainstay in our culture in FY 'twenty four was no different Pedro duty dot org and more than $1 million in grants to impact partners, including our partners in the time critical health space.

Jennifer G. Tejada: Investing in and supporting our communities through social impact programs is a mainstay in our culture, and FY24 was no different. Pagerduty.org made more than $1 million in grants to impact partners, including our partners in the time-critical health space. These impact partners leveraged Pagerduty's platform to advance their operations to drive improved health outcomes within their communities. Additionally, almost 100% of our employees volunteered or donated to a cause last year, representing a third consecutive year of greater than 90% participation.

Jeff Housing: In fact partners leverage paid your duties platform to advance their operations to drive improved health outcomes within their community. Additionally, almost 100% of our employees volunteered or donated to a cause last year, representing a third consecutive year of greater than 90%, 90% participation.

Jennifer G. Tejada: While the volatile economic environment was challenging during FY24, we have emerged stronger, more profitable, and well poised for accelerating growth during FY25. Our confidence is founded in improving leading indicators like large deal pipeline and conversion rates, stabilizing customer retention in mid-market and enterprise, an increased mix of multi-product, multi-year ads and expansion, and improved sales productivity. Our cost structure enables continued growth in both profitability and cash flow, reinforcing our position as a durable, profitable growth business. In my daily engagements with our largest customers, I see increased budget certainty and confidence in more strategic long-term investments in our platform. If we learn nothing else this year, we must anticipate the unexpected, and our customers' demand for our integrated platform, combining automation, AIOPs, incident management, and customer operations, is increasing. With that, I'll turn the call over to Howard, and I look forward to your questions. Thank you, Jen, and good day to everyone joining us on this afternoon's call.

Jeff Housing: While the volatile economic environment was challenging during FY 'twenty four we have emerged stronger more profitable and well posed poised for accelerating growth during FY 'twenty five.

Jeff Housing: Our confidence is founded in improving leading indicators like large deal pipeline and conversion rates stabilizing customer retention in midmarket and enterprise and increased mix of multi product multi year adds an expansion and improved sales productivity or cost structure enables continued growth in both profitability and cash flow.

Jeff Housing: Reinforcing our position as a durable profitable growth business at my daily engagements with our largest customers I see increased budget certainty and confidence and more strategic long term investments in our platform. If we learn nothing else. This year, we must anticipate the unexpected and our customers demand for our integrated platform.

Jeff Housing: Combining automation AI ops incident management and customer operations is increasing with that I will turn the call to Howard and I look forward to your questions.

Owen Howard Wilson: Thank you Jane and good day to everyone joining us on this afternoons call.

Owen Howard Wilson: Unless otherwise stated, all references to our expenses and operating results are on a non-GAAP basis, and I'll reconcile to our GAAP results in the earnings release that was posted before the call. Our enterprise motion continued to show strength in the fourth quarter. Customer commitments lengthened across our base as our go-to-market team leveraged flexible enterprise pricing and increased attach rates at AIOps and our other products. These efforts resulted in our best quarter of new and expansion ARR for the year. Companies with less than $50 million in revenue, our SMB segment, accounted for 16% of ARR at the end of FY24.

Owen Howard Wilson: Unless otherwise stated all references to our expenses and operating results are on a non-GAAP basis.

Owen Howard Wilson: And I'll reconcile Tau Kathryn Hall, and the earnings release that was posted before the call.

Owen Howard Wilson: Our enterprise motion continued to show strength in the fourth quarter customer commitments under cross shop base as our go to market teams Enbridge flexible enterprise pricing and increased attach rates of AI ops and other products.

Owen Howard Wilson: These efforts resulted in our best quarter of new and expansion are off in Q4.

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Companies with less than $50 million in revenue SMB segment accounted for 16% of air or at the end of FY 'twenty four.

Owen Howard Wilson: While a relatively small mix of our business, a decline in net new customers and dollar-based net retention was a headwind to both quarterly and annual results this fiscal year. This adverse trend persisted in the fourth quarter, but we believe the headwind will be less severe in FY25. Revenue was $111 million in the fourth quarter, up 10% year-over-year. The contribution from International was 28% of total revenues, an increase from 24% compared to FY23.

Owen Howard Wilson: While they're relatively small mix of our business a decline in net new customers and dollar based net retention was a headwind to both quarterly and annual results this fiscal year.

Owen Howard Wilson: This adverse claim persistent in the fourth quarter, but we believe the headwind will be less severe in FY 'twenty five.

Owen Howard Wilson: Revenue was $111 million in the fourth quarter up 10% year over year. The contribution from international was 28% of total revenues an increase from 24% compared to FY2023.

Owen Howard Wilson: Annual recurring revenue exiting Q4 grew 10% year over year to $452 million.

Owen Howard Wilson: Annual recurring revenue exiting Q4 grew 10% year-over-year to $452 million. We delivered 107% dollar-based net retention, one point above our expectation in Q4 and compared to 120% in the same period one year ago. Our DBNR expectation for Q1 is approximately 106% and is expected to mark the floor for this metric moving higher in the second half of FY25. Customer spending over $100,000 in annual recurring revenue grew to 804, up 7% from a year ago. The total customer count of 15,039 declined year over year by 1%, primarily due to the challenging environment for subscale business.

Owen Howard Wilson: We delivered 107% dollar based net retention one point about expectation in Q4 and campaigns to the 120% in the same period one year ago.

Owen Howard Wilson: Our DB and our expectation for Q1 is approximately 106% and is expected to mark the floor of this metric moving higher in the second half of FY 'twenty five.

Owen Howard Wilson: Customers spending over $100000 in annual recurring revenue grew to 800 fold up 7% from a year ago.

Owen Howard Wilson: Total customer count of 15039 declined year over year by 1%, primarily due to the challenging environment for subscale businesses.

Owen Howard Wilson: Free and paid customers on our platform grew to over 28000, an increase of approximately 17% compared to Q4 of last year.

Owen Howard Wilson: Free and paid customers on our platform grew to over 28,000, an increase of approximately 17% compared to Q4 of last year. In terms of metrics that we provide on an annual basis, customers with ARR over a million dollars increased to 58, up 16% compared to Q4 of last year. ARR from customers using two or more paid products was 62%, up from 58% in FY23. And to provide additional transparency on product mix, the AR contribution from incident management was 73% of the total compared to 77% in FY23, as customers adopted multiple products in our operations cloud platform. Q4 growth margin was 85% and within our 84 to 86% target range; operating income was $11 million, or 10% of revenue compared to $6 million, or 6% of revenue, in the same quarter last year. In terms of cash flow for the quarter, cash from operations was $22 million, or 20% of revenue, and free cash flow was $20 million, or 18% of revenue.

Owen Howard Wilson: In terms of metrics that we provide on an annual basis customers. What they are over a million dollars increased to 58 up 16% compared to Q4 of last year.

Owen Howard Wilson: They are all from testaments, using two or more paint products was 62% up from 58% in FY2023.

Owen Howard Wilson: And to provide additional transparency on product mix. The <unk> contribution from incident management was 73% of the total compared to 77% in FY2023 as customers adopt multiple products operations platform.

Owen Howard Wilson: Q4, gross margin was 85% and with an 84% to 86% target range.

Owen Howard Wilson: Operating income was $11 million or 10% of revenue compared to $6 million or 6% of revenue in the same quarter last year.

Owen Howard Wilson: In terms of cash flow for the quarter cash from operations was $22 million or 20% of revenue and free cash flow was $20 million or 18% type revenue.

Owen Howard Wilson: For the full fiscal year revenue was $431 million up 16% year over year gross margin was 86% up slightly year over year operating income was $56 million or 13% of revenue compared to $3 million or 1% of revenue a year ago.

Owen Howard Wilson: For the full fiscal year, revenue was $431 million, up 16% year over year; growth margin was 86%, up slightly year over year; operating income was $56 million, or 13% of revenue compared to $3 million or 1% of revenue a year ago; operating cash flow was $72 million compared to $17 million a year ago. Free cash flow was $64 million compared to $9 million in fiscal 2023, and headcount increased to 1,182, up 1% year over year. Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $571 million in cash, cash equivalents, and investments.

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Owen Howard Wilson: Operating cash flow was $72 million compared to $17 million a year ago.

Owen Howard Wilson: Free cash flow was $64 million compared to $9 million in fiscal 2023.

Owen Howard Wilson: And head count increase to 1182 up 1% year over year.

Turning to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $571 million in cash cash equivalents and investments.

Owen Howard Wilson: On a trailing 12 months basis billings were $450 million, an increase of 10% compared to a year ago and in line with our estimates.

Owen Howard Wilson: On a trading 12-month basis, Billings were $450 million, an increase of 10% compared to a year ago and in line with our estimates. With respect to Q1 FY25, we expect trading 12-month Billings Growth to be approximately 10%. To provide some context before turning to guidance, as I mentioned, annual recurring revenue ended FY24 at 10%. We expect ARR growth to accelerate in FY25, particularly in the second half. Our guidance reflects this gradual growth acceleration. Importantly, we have made a change from monthly to daily revenue recognition, which creates a shift in revenue out of Q1 to the rest of the year. We expect to continue to expand operating margin in what will be our third year of non-GAAP profitability. And our EPS guidance, for the first time, includes a non-GAAP tax rate of $23.

Owen Howard Wilson: With respect to Q1 FY 'twenty five we expect training 12 month billings growth to be approximately 8%.

Owen Howard Wilson: To provide some context before turning to guidance as I mentioned annual recurring revenue ended FY 'twenty four at 10% plus.

Owen Howard Wilson: We expect <unk> growth to accelerate in FY 'twenty five, particularly in the second half.

Owen Howard Wilson: Guidance reflects the gradual growth acceleration.

Owen Howard Wilson: Importantly, we have made a change from monthly to daily revenue recognition, which creates a shifting revenue out of Q1 to the rest of the year.

Owen Howard Wilson: We expect to continue to expand operating margin and what will be our third year of non-GAAP profitability and.

Owen Howard Wilson: And our EPS guidance for the first time it includes a non-GAAP tax rate of 23%.

Speaker Change: So looking at our guidance for the first quarter of fiscal 2025, we expect revenue in the range of 110, and a half to 112 and a half million dollars.

Owen Howard Wilson: So looking at our guidance for the first quarter of fiscal 2025, we expect revenue in the range of $110.5 to $112.5 million, representing a growth rate of 7% to 9%, and net income per diluted share attributable to Pagerduty Inc. in the range of $12 to $13. This implies an operating margin of 9 to 10%. For the full fiscal year 2025, we expect revenue in the range of $470 to $478 million, representing a growth rate of 9 to 11%, and net income per diluted share attributable to Pagerduty Inc. in the range of $65 to $75. This implies an operating margin of 13 to 14 percent. Before moving to questions, I would like to provide assistance with modeling FY25.

Speaker Change: Representing a growth rate of 7% to 9%.

Speaker Change: And net income per diluted share attributable to page due to ink in the range of 12 to 13 cents. This implies an operating margin of 9% to 10%.

Speaker Change: For the full fiscal year 2025, we expect revenue in the range of 472 $478 million, representing a growth rate of 9% to 11%.

Speaker Change: And net income per diluted share attributable to pinch duty Inc. In the range of 65 to 70 cents. This implies an operating margin of 13% to 14%.

Speaker Change: Before moving to questions I would like to provide assistance with modeling FY 'twenty five.

Speaker Change: We changed from Ratably, recognizing subscription revenue on a monthly basis to a daily basis in FY 'twenty five the impact of this is approximately $3 million less revenue in Q1 and $3 million higher revenue in the remainder of the year due to Q1, having fewer days.

Owen Howard Wilson: We change from relatively recognizing subscription revenue on a monthly basis to a daily basis in FY25. The impact of this is approximately $3 million less revenue in Q1 and $3 million higher revenue in the remainder of the year due to Q1 having fewer days. Our EPS guidance now incorporates a non-gap tax rate of 23% for each quarter of FY25, which represents approximately 4 cents of EPS in Q1 and 21 cents in FY25.

Our EPS guidance now incorporates a non-GAAP tax rate of 23% each courtroom FY 'twenty five which represents approximately four cents of EPS in Q1, and 21 cents in FY 'twenty five.

Speaker Change: non-GAAP gross margin is expected to remain within our target range of 84% to 86%, but trying towards the low end of the range as we invest in our services capacity for enterprise customers.

Owen Howard Wilson: Non-GAAP gross margin is expected to remain within our target range of 84 to 86 percent but trend towards the low end of the range as we invest in our services capacity for enterprise, for reference to one of the prior fiscal year incremental AR with $12 million. And as a reminder, interest payments on our 2028 convertible notes are made semi-annually in arrears in Q1 and Q3. The business momentum we carry into FY25 is a direct result of the long-term-oriented investments in the operations cloud to solve the complex operational issues of large enterprises, accelerating our move up market. The annual increase in multi-product customer ARR and multi-year commitments, the increasing volume of large deals, and improved annualized gross retention this past quarter give me confidence in our ability to accelerate growth. With that, I will open up the call for Q&A. Thank you, Howard. And as we turn to questions, we'll hear first from Sanjit Singh. Sanjit, I don't know.

Speaker Change: For reference Q1 of the prior fiscal year incremental <unk> was $12 million.

Speaker Change: And as a reminder, interest payments on our 2028 convertible notes I'll made semi annually in arrears in Q1 and Q3.

Speaker Change: The business momentum we carry into FY 'twenty five is a direct result of the long term oriented investments in the operations cloud to solve the complex operational issues of large enterprises accelerating our move up market.

Speaker Change: The increase in multi product customer IRR and multiyear commitments, the increasing volume of large deals and improved annualized gross retention. This past quarter gives me confidence in our ability to accelerate growth this year.

Speaker Change: With that I will open up the call for Q&A.

Speaker Change: Thank you Howard and where as we turn to questions for you.

Speaker Change: Your first from Sanjay Singh.

Sanjit Kumar Singh: So I'm just a few.

Sanjit Kumar Singh: Go ahead and on mute.

Sanjit Kumar Singh: Great can you hear me go.

Jennifer G. Tejada: Great, can you hear me? It was awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you for taking the time to answer the question. Jennifer, on the sort of rubric or the topic of things that are under the team's control, definitely on the operating margin side and the profitability side of the equation, you guys had a pretty fantastic year. I wanted to get your assessment, you know, when we look back at fiscal year 24, on the sales execution side, if we look at sort of the slowdown in growth, is that just, we just put it on macro, or were there other things where the team could execute better, and how does that inform your growth expectations going into next year because I think you mentioned sales productivity might be improving as we exit this fiscal year and enter fiscal year 25. So just wanted to get your assessment of where execution is strong and where execution could be better. Sure.

Sanjit Kumar Singh: Go ahead.

Sanjit Kumar Singh: Awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you for taking the question Jennifer.

Speaker Change: Sort of rubric or the topic of things.

Speaker Change: Things that are under the team's control definitely on the operating margin side and the profitability side of the equation you guys had a pretty fantastic here I wanted to get your assessment you know when you look back at fiscal year 'twenty four unlike the sales execution side, if we look at sort of the slowdown in growth was that just we just put it out.

Speaker Change: Macro or was it other things where the team could execute better and how does that inform.

Speaker Change: Your growth expectations going into next year, because I think he mentioned like sales productivity might be improving as we as we exited this fiscal year going into fiscal year 'twenty. Five. So just wanted to get like just curious assessment of where execution is strong and we're actually just could be better.

Jennifer G. Tejada: Well, first of all, I appreciate the comment; we have been working for several years to put a structural set of programs in place to improve the efficiency and the operational resilience of the company through both profitability and cash flow. And I think we've done a good job there of controlling the controllables. In addition, we also invested quite a bit of time in enabling Salesforce to move up market selling to a new type of buyer. So one of the shifts we saw in the macro was this move away from bottom-up buying through the developer community to a top-down, centralized procurement-led purchasing process, and we had to enable Salesforce to manage that effectively. Fortunately, we're in sort of the right place at the right time with the operations cloud platform, which is really directed towards business objectives of improving productivity, improving cost efficiency, while increasing time to market and protecting the customer experience and growth.

Speaker Change: Sure well first of all I. Appreciate the comment you know we have been working for several years to play at a structural set of programs in place to improve.

Speaker Change: The efficiency and the operational resilience of the company through both profitability and cash flow and I think we've done a good job there of controlling the controllable and in addition, we also invested quite a bit of time in enabling the sales force to move upmarket selling too.

Speaker Change: A new type of buyer. So one of the shifts we saw on the macro was this move away from bottoms up buying through the developer community to a top down a more centralized procurement led purchasing process and we had to enable the sales force to manage that effectively Fortunately, we're in sort of the right place at the right.

Speaker Change: Time with the operations cloud platform, which is really directed towards business objectives of improving productivity.

Improving cost efficiency, while increasing time to market and protecting the customer experience and growth I think what we really saw in the first half of the year.

Jennifer G. Tejada: I think what we really saw in the first half of the year was a pretty significant change in the demand signal as customers retrenched thinking through their headcount investments, their budget investments, but what we've seen stabilized towards the back half of the year is more confidence around the budget envelope that our enterprise customers have to work within and more of a willingness to engage with us in multi-year, multi-product deals. And you can see that in some of the examples that we've mentioned, and we've seen a real improvement and sort of shift in the sales organization's behavior to go from that transactional created in a quarter sort of expansion motion to really a top-down value-driven sales motion that really supports and underpins the better together story for the platform. And so I would say it's less about execution and more about making that transition, which was where the requirement was accelerated by the change in the macro. That's a great context sentence.

Speaker Change: Does a pretty significant change in the demand signal as customers retrenched thinking through their head count investments their budget investments, but what we've seen stabilize towards the back half of the year is more confidence around the budget envelope that our enterprise customers have to work within and more of a willingness to engage with us.

Speaker Change: In multi year multi product deals and you can see that in some of the examples that we've mentioned and we've seen a real improvement and sort of shift in the sales organization's behavior to go from that transactional created in quarter sort of expansion motion to really a top down.

Speaker Change: <unk> driven sales motion that really supports and underpins the the better together story for the platform and so I would say, it's less about execution and more about making that transition, which was you know where the requirement was accelerated by the change in the market and the macro.

Owen Howard Wilson: I'd like to add, I might just add to that, in terms of the progress that we've seen with being able to do these larger seven-figure deals with large companies, where it's CIO and CTO sponsored deals, has led to a more strategic relationship with our customers. And those multi-year agreements are showing up in our RPO. RPO grew over 30% this quarter.

Speaker Change: That's great context, I'd, just add I might just add to that in terms of the progress that we've seen with being able to do these larger seven figure deals with large companies, where it's CIO CTO sponsor deals has led to a more strategic relationship with our customers and those multi year agreements are showing up.

Speaker Change: RPI RPI grew over 30% this quarter.

Owen Howard Wilson: So that is a sign that the move that we're making in that direction is yielding the right kind of results. It also gives us reasonable confidence because we look at the pipeline, and now we have pipeline visibility beyond just next quarter. So the deals that our sales team is working on now stretch out multiple quarters ahead. So we're getting a better view of the deals that are being developed and being worked on because they're more strategic in nature, and they have higher value, and they are going to deliver higher value to the customer. That gives us a better view of how things will play out in the, Just one more follow-up, Howard, and then I'll give the floor. In terms of marking a market, the timing of the re-acceleration, which I think you're sort of pointing to the second half, how much of that is sort of dependent on like hiring, right? We've seen software development projects sort of come back online, but the hiring environment still seems out there in tech and non-tech, still pretty sluggish.

Speaker Change: That is a sign that the moves that we're making them that direction.

Speaker Change: Yielding the right kind of results. It's also.

Speaker Change: Gives us reasonable confidence because we look at the pipeline and now we have pipeline visibility beyond just next quarter. So the deals that our sales team are working on now stretch out multiple quarters ahead. So we're getting a better view of the deals that are being developed and being worked on because they are more strategic in nature and they have higher.

Speaker Change: Value and they are going to deliver higher value to the customer that gives us a better view on how things will play out in the year.

Speaker Change: And just one more follow up Howard and then I'll see the floor in terms of marking to market the timing of the Reacceleration in which I think you sort of pointed you to the second half how much of that is sort of dependent on like.

Speaker Change: Hiring right like we seen software developer projects sort of come back online, but the hiring environment still seems out there in tech and non tech I'm still I'm still hum pretty sluggish and so do we need to see that come back in a material way before Pedro duty starts to.

Owen Howard Wilson: And so do we need to see that come back in a material way before Pagerduty starts to reap the benefit of that, of better growth? Yeah, in fact, Sanjit, we haven't factored in improvement in the macro environment through, you know, incremental hiring; we've assumed that the macro stays as it is. And, and in fact, the value that we or the approach that we're taking is allowing us to position value for the customer that's independent of their headcount, right? So we're really attaching to business value. And I take that one step further and say, if the macro did improve, we would see that as upside. Okay, that's a great way to frame it. Thank you, Jen. Thank you, Howard. Okay, thank you.

Speaker Change: Reap the benefit of that of that better growth.

Speaker Change: Yes in fact centered we haven't factored in improvement in the macro environment through incremental hiring intake we've assumed that the macro stays as it is.

Speaker Change: And in fact, the the value that we will the approach that we're taking is allowing us to position value for the customer that's independent of the head count. So we really attaching to to the business at all.

Speaker Change: And actually if I take that one step further and say if the macro did improve we would see that as upside. Okay. That's great. My favorite. Thank you Ted Thank you Howard.

Speaker Change: Okay. Thank you next we'll hear from Joel Fishbein that trust.

Jennifer G. Tejada: Next, we'll hear from Joel Fishbein. Thank you for taking my question. And I have a follow-up to Sanjit's question about some of these large customers that you signed. I thought that was one of the most interesting takeaways.

Joel P. Fishbein: Thank you for taking my question.

Joel P. Fishbein: I have a follow up to <unk> question about some of these large customers that you've signed.

Joel P. Fishbein: That was one of the most interesting takeaways.

Jennifer G. Tejada: If you can, like, peel the onion back just a little bit on the, you know, seven-figure multi-year deals that, you know, CETO sponsored. Did these involve the entire operations cloud, number one? What were the competitive dynamics around those deals? And then, thirdly, were there any tools that you could say that you've consolidated as part of that? I know a lot of it's DIY, you know, but if there's anything you can point to, that'd be really helpful.

Joel P. Fishbein: If you Peel the onion back just a little bit on the on the.

Joel P. Fishbein: On the seven figure multi year deal.

Joel P. Fishbein: T O sponsor does this involve the entire operations cloud number one.

Speaker Change: What where the competitive dynamics around those deals and then the third is were there any tools that you can say that you've consolidated as part of that I know a lot of it's DIY, but if theres anything you can point too that'd be really helpful. Thank you yeah I. Appreciate the question in most of the examples we shared in prepared remarks, the software company that we talked about that expanded in the <unk>.

Jennifer G. Tejada: Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate the question. In most of the examples we shared in prepared remarks, the software company that we talked about that expanded in the quarter, they adopted all four pillars of the operations cloud, that is, automation, AIOps, customer service ops, in addition to incident management. And in that case, we did displace a point solution in the AIOps space.

Speaker Change: Order they adopted all four pillars of the operations side, that's automation AI ops customer service apps. In addition to incident management and in that case, we did displace a point solution in the eye off space and one of the trends that we're seeing as this realization that.

Jennifer G. Tejada: And one of the trends that we're seeing is this realization that insight is just insight if you don't have the ability to act on it. And the fact that our AIOps solution now serves centralized teams like SRE, like Knox or IT operations, but it is also integrated into workflow automation. So you can go from learning to change immediately, which really streamlines the process of improving the resilience of your technology ecosystem. And that has kind of become, I think, a really important sort of characteristic that's driving more demand for the operations cloud. Another example I would point to is the entertainment and media company that we described, where they adopted all of the operations cloud capabilities across multiple use cases.

Speaker Change: <unk> insight is just insight if you don't have the ability to accident and the fact that our <unk> solution now serves centralized teams like esarey like Nox or I T operations, but also is integrated into workflow automation. So you can go from learning to change immediately.

Speaker Change: Really streamlines the process of improving the resilience of your technology ecosystem and that has kind of become I think a really important sort of characteristics, that's driving more demand for the operations cloud.

Speaker Change: Another example, I would point to is the entertainment and media company that we described where there. They are in adopted all of the operations cloud capabilities, but across multiple use cases retail operations on.

Jennifer G. Tejada: Retail operations, on property customer experience, as well as digital resilience, which is something they had been focused on previously with IM. I think what's unique about these two cases, as well as the semiconductor customer we talked about, is they all expanded on top of previous commitments to incident management or incident management plus automation but also took on longer-term commitments. And in many cases, our customers are asking for those.

Speaker Change: On property customer experience as well as digital resilience, which is something they had been focused on previously with I am I think what's unique about these two cases as well as the semiconductor customer we talked about is maybe I'll expand it on top of previous commitments to incident man.

Speaker Change: Man or incident management, plus automation, but also took on longer term commitments and in many cases, our customers are asking for those it's not just us enabling the sales force to position that opportunity, they're doubling down and saying this is going to be my platform for real time operations and that has been super encouraging.

Jennifer G. Tejada: It's not just us enabling Salesforce to position that opportunity. They're doubling down and saying, "This is going to be my platform for real-time operations." And that has been super encouraging. And what we're also seeing in the pipeline, a stronger multi-product pipeline to start the year, capacity, and sales capacity that positions us to exceed targets. So we're still investing in growth, but with, I think, the momentum of some of these proof points with other customers in hand. Yeah, and I'll just add to that, Joel. You asked a question about competition. Yes, we are displacing competition, particularly in the area of AIOps. So since we introduced our new AIOps offering in April of last year with the consumption-based metric, we're actually now at over 250 customers who are using that SKU, and we are displacing other competitors with that. And that's because that's an offering that is really geared towards centralized teams that are managing high volumes of data and information, having to act at speed. And are the margins similar in that skew as to the other skews that you have, Howard?

Speaker Change: What we're also seeing in the pipeline stronger multi product pipeline to start the year.

Speaker Change: Capacity sales capacity that positions us to exceed targets. So we're still investing in growth, but with I think the momentum of some of these proof points with other customers in hand.

Yeah, and I'll just add to that I'm told you asked a question about competition, yes, we are displacing competition, particularly in the area of AI ops since we introduced.

Speaker Change: Our new AI ops offering in April of last year with the consumption based metric. We're actually now at over 250 customers, who are using that SKU and we are we are displacing other competitors with it and that is because that's an offering that is really geared towards centralized teams that are managing high volume.

Speaker Change: <unk> of data and information having to action at speed.

Speaker Change: Are the margins similar and that skew is to the other skus that you have Howard yes. So we managed to even with this consumption base metric, we manage to maintain you sold this quarter with gross margin of 85%.

Owen Howard Wilson: Yeah, so we managed to even with this consumption-based metric, we managed to maintain, you know, you saw this quarter of gross margin of 85. Great. Thank you. I'll cede the floor.

Speaker Change: Great. Thank you I'll cede the floor. Thanks.

Jennifer G. Tejada: Thanks. Okay, next, we'll hear from Rob Oliver at Baird. Rob, please.

Speaker Change: Okay and next we'll hear from Rob Oliver of Baird. Please go ahead, Gregg Hey, good evening Hi, Jan.

Operator: Great. Hey, good evening. Hi, Jen.

Operator: Hi Howard. Thanks for taking my questions. I had two.

Robert Cooney Oliver: Hi, Thanks for taking my questions I had two so so Jim one for you or Howard as well just on.

Operator: So Jen, one for you or Howard as well. Just on the sales pipeline for this year, which clearly you guys are more optimistic about, and sounds like a lot of that is stuff that you guys have put the work into. Can you talk maybe a little bit about how we should think about the breakdown between expansion deals, where it sounds like you guys have a really nice opportunity, versus new logos, recognizing that the headline customer logo numbers are impacted by the low end? Really, I'm just asking about larger customers here. I appreciate the question. In mid-market and enterprise, customer logos actually grew.

Robert Cooney Oliver: The sales pipeline for this year, which clearly you guys are more optimistic about.

Robert Cooney Oliver: And it sounds like a lot of that is stuff that you guys have put the work into control could you talk maybe a little bit of how we should think about the breakdown between expansion deals where it sounds like you guys have a really nice opportunity versus new logos recognizing that the headline customer logo numbers are impacted by the low and really I'm, just asking about kind of larger customers here.

Speaker Change: Okay. I appreciate the question in Midmarket and enterprise customer logos actually grew and we continue to see new customers coming to us looking for the ability to both improve their cost efficiency and at the same time increase our velocity of their innovation or their time to market.

Jennifer G. Tejada: And we continue to see new customers coming to us looking for the ability to both improve their cost efficiency and, at the same time, increase the velocity of their innovation or their time to market. And what makes me very optimistic are a few things that I both see when I'm out talking to customers and spending time with our customers but also can see in our leading indicators. One is that technology has become a value driver as opposed to a cost center in just about every industry, whether it's healthcare, manufacturing, travel, and hospitality, retail, et cetera.

Speaker Change: And what makes me very optimistic is a few things that I I, both see when I'm out talking to customers and spending time with our customers, but also can see in our leading indicators. One is that technology has become a value driver as opposed to a cost center in just about every industry, whether it's a health care manufacturing.

Speaker Change: Travel and hospitality retail et.

Cetera, the the second thing that we're seeing is like I said that certainty around what my budget envelope is and the fact that the operations cloud addresses some of the highest priority already budgeted initiatives that our customers are working on and we're doing a much better job of matching ourselves to those initiatives as is.

Jennifer G. Tejada: The second thing that we're seeing is, like I said, that certainty around what my budget envelope is and the fact that the operations cloud addresses some of the highest priority already budgeted initiatives that our customers are working on. And we're doing a much better job of matching ourselves to those initiatives as opposed to just selling technical features and functions to developers. And that's been a shift for the business. From a leading indicator perspective, the large deal pipeline has improved dramatically. Conversion rates are back to where they were before the macro dislocation.

Speaker Change: Posed to just selling technical features and functions to developers and that's been a shift for the business from a leading indicator perspective large deal pipeline has improved dramatically conversion rates are back to where they were pre the macro dislocation and like I said, we're seeing an increase in both multi product deal.

Jennifer G. Tejada: And like I said, we're seeing an increase in both multi-product deals, so operations cloud deals, as well as multi-year deals kind of underscoring that RPO growing by over 30%. But also, when I look across what needs to happen in this next year, as Howard mentioned earlier, we're not relying on the macro to improve. And in fact, there's an upside. If we were able to attack the federal government more sooner than we currently have in our plan, if generative AI uptake were to come mainstream faster, we see that as a use case that drives more complexity, more software proliferation, and therefore more incidents.

So operations cloud deals as well as multi year deals kind of underscored by that are growing.

Speaker Change: Growing by over 30%.

Speaker Change: We also when I when I look across what needs to happen in this next year as Howard mentioned earlier, we're not relying on the macro to improve and in fact, there's upside if we were able to attack federal.

Speaker Change: More like sooner than you know we currently have in plan if generative AI uptake were to come out on mainstream faster, we see that as a use case that drives more complexity more software publisher proliferation, and therefore more incidents or if the macro were to improve those are all tailwind, we're not factoring into guidance today.

Jennifer G. Tejada: Or if the macro were to improve, those are all tailwinds we're not factoring in to guidance today. Great. That's really helpful.

Hey.

Speaker Change: Great. That's really helpful. Thanks, John and Howard for you.

Owen Howard Wilson: Thanks, Jen, and Howard, for you, just recognizing the sort of dichotomy between the Q1 guide and the applied acceleration for the rest of the year, and you guys have talked about it, and Jen, just in response to my first question, talked about some of what gives you comfort there. You did say that you're not expecting an improvement in macro. I think I also heard you say that the low-end pressures will ease a bit, and if I heard that correctly, I just wanted to understand a little bit better why that is. Is that better free-to-pay conversion, and better visibility into the cohorting of those customers, something you guys are controlling? Any color there would be helpful.

Speaker Change: Recognizing that sort of dichotomy between the Q1 guide or the implied acceleration for the rest of the year and you guys have talked about it and John just in response to my first question talked about some of what gives you. The comfort. There you did say that youre not improvement you're not expecting an improvement in macro I think at all.

Speaker Change: I heard you say that.

Speaker Change: The low end pressures will ease a bit.

And if I heard that correctly I just wanted to understand a little bit better why that is is that better free to paid conversion better better visibility into the cohort to give those customers something you guys are controlling.

Speaker Change: Any any color there would be helpful. Thanks.

Owen Howard Wilson: Thanks. Yeah. Yeah, sure. So when we look at that S&B segment, we've been tracking very carefully what's happening with respect to churn and downgrades in that segment. We saw that really spike, grow, and accelerate through this past year, but we saw that stabilize and get a little bit better in Q4. So that gives us a view that we expect that this year, a lot of that dislocation that happened around subscale enterprises has pretty much happened, and that means that the impact will be less. We've also reduced our exposure to that segment by focusing on our growth in the enterprise and mid-market.

Speaker Change: Yeah sure. So when we look at that SMB segment, we've been tracking very carefully what's happening with respect to churn and downgrade in that same segment, we saw that really spike.

Speaker Change: Grow and accelerate through this past year, but we saw that stabilize and get a little bit better in Q4. So that gives us a view that we expect that this year a lot of that dislocation that happened around sub scale enterprises has pretty much happened and.

Speaker Change: That means that the impact will be live we also reduced our exposure to that segment by focusing on outgrowth in the enterprise and mid market. So whereas that segment has typically been close to 20%. That's now around 16% of our era and we are steadily moving upwards and in fact, even with new customer.

Owen Howard Wilson: So whereas that segment has typically been close to 20%, that's now around 16% of our ARR, and we are steadily moving upwards. And in fact, even with new customer acquisition, you asked that question around enterprise and mid-market. Whilst we have seen impacts of churn in the S&B segment, we've seen high single-digit growth in the enterprise and mid-market segments through this. Great, really helpful. Thanks to you both. Thank you. Okay, next, we'll hear from Kingsley Crane with Conochord Genuity. Kingsley, please go ahead.

Speaker Change: Acquisition.

Speaker Change: Ask that question Rod around enterprise and mid market, whilst we have seen impacts of churn in the in the SMB segment, we've seen high single digit growth in the enterprise and mid market segment through this year.

Speaker Change: Great really helpful. Thanks to you both.

Speaker Change: Thank you.

Speaker Change: Okay next we'll hear from Kingsley Crane with Canaccord Genuity Kingsley. Please go ahead hi, Jay.

Jennifer G. Tejada: Hi Jen. Hi Howard. Thanks for taking the question. So the first one is, it's interesting that in the industry analyst materials provided, self-naming names, I would say you're neck and neck with some really large, traditional IT operations companies. But you've always differentiated yourself in the real-time operations use case.

William Kingsley Crane: Hi, Howard I can't do anything.

William Kingsley Crane: Thanks for taking the question. So the first one is.

William Kingsley Crane: So it's interesting that all the industry analysts materials provided.

William Kingsley Crane: I would say your neck and neck with some really large traditional IC operations companies. So you have always differentiated yourself in the real time operations use case, but as you can.

Jennifer G. Tejada: But as you increasingly sign these $1 million deals, and involve top down selling motions, how often are you running into some of these companies, maybe this is the competition you mentioned earlier, versus still being greenfield? We still, the vast majority of customer lands, regardless of segment, tends to be greenfield because most customers don't have an incident management or automation platform to manage unstructured, unpredictable incidents, and these type of incidents tend to also be high value or mission critical to resolve. The other thing that I would say is that some of these large companies that provide ticketing systems or workflow, they're really designed around longer timeline, lower criticality problems, and so in the time that it would take to raise a ticket, to push that ticket through a command and control approval process, you could be bleeding transactional revenue, you could be exposing yourself to compliance risk, you could be losing customer subscribership in seconds, not minutes or hours, so it really is a very different application to a higher value but shorter timeline use case.

William Kingsley Crane: Creasing, we sign these 1 million dollar deals involve top down selling motion is helping are you running into some of these companies. Maybe this is the competition you mentioned earlier versus still being Greenfield.

William Kingsley Crane: And they were still we still have the vast majority of our customer lands, regardless of the segment tends to be greenfield because most customers don't have an incident management or automation platform to manage.

William Kingsley Crane: Unstructured unpredictable incidents and and these type of incidents tend to also be high value or mission critical to resolve them and the other thing that I would say is that some of these large companies that provide ticketing systems or workflow, they're really designed around longer timeline.

William Kingsley Crane: Lower criticality problems and so in the time that it would take to raise the ticket to push that ticket through a command and control approval process are you.

William Kingsley Crane: It could be bleeding transactional revenue you could be exposing yourself to compliance risk you could be losing customers subscriber ship in seconds not minutes or hours. So it really is.

William Kingsley Crane: A very different application to a higher value, but shorter timeline use case.

Jennifer G. Tejada: You know, I would, like, underneath that definition of that type of real-time work, you could include things like cybersecurity, the risk mitigation associated with certain regulatory compliance, incident management, the management of large language models and AI-based products and services, physical security, all of these things are very time sensitive and are not managed well through that sequential decision-making process or one that requires you to know where the subject matter expertise in an organization is, and so by applying AI and automation in every point in the value chain, from detection of the events to orchestration of the work to either people or an automated runbook to the automation of diagnostic and even safe self-healing or auto-remediation of the technology ecosystem, we're very different in our approach, and at the same time, the market has become much more open to automation than maybe they were a year ago when they were thinking about protecting jobs. Like, most of the leaders we talk to are looking for ways to take people out of these processes and really try and improve the level of automation. One of the questions I get asked is, what percentage of my infra can you help me automate, right, which is not something you can do with a workflow solution that's built around people, knowing who the people are, knowing who owns the approval process. Right. No, very helpful.

William Kingsley Crane: I would.

William Kingsley Crane: Like underneath that definition of that type of real time work you could include things like cyber security the risk mitigation is certain associated with certain regulatory compliance and our incident management. The management of large language models and AI based products and services physical security all of these.

William Kingsley Crane: Things are very time sensitive and are not managed well through that sequential decision, making process are one that requires you to know where the subject matter expertise in an organisation is and so by applying AI and automation in every point in the value chain from detection of the events to orchestration of.

William Kingsley Crane: The work to either people or an automated run back to the automation of diagnostic and even save self healing or auto remediation of the technology ecosystem, we're very different in our approach and at the same time the market has become much more open to automation than maybe they were a year ago.

William Kingsley Crane: When they were thinking about protecting jobs like most of the leaders. We talk to are looking for ways to take people out of these processes and really try and improve the level of automation in one of the questions. I get asked is what percentage of my in front can you help me automate right, which is not something you can do with a workflow solution that is built around people knowing that the people.

William Kingsley Crane: Our newly who owns the approval process.

William Kingsley Crane: Right.

Speaker Change: Very helpful.

Jennifer G. Tejada: Well said. So, Howard, for you, just on the 9 to 11% growth guidance, any way to think about seed growth versus arbor growth within that? Yes, so when we have a look at our model for growth with our customers through this year, we obviously have multiple levers, which is, you know, user or seed growth has been one of the primary mechanisms for us. But increasingly, we've seen customers adopting the operations cloud. So the contribution from new products, if you like, from AIops, from automation, and from customer service operations, we expect that to continue to be a large contributor. And as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, we now have incident management at 73% of our overall ARR. So the contribution from the other products is increasing. Okay, thank you. Very helpful.

Speaker Change: For you just on the 9% to 11% growth guidance any way to think about seat growth versus <unk> growth within that.

Speaker Change: Yes.

Speaker Change: When we have a look at our model all Reits without customers through this year, we obviously have multiple limits, which as usual will seek price as being one of the the primary mechanisms for us, but increasingly we're seeing customers adopting the operations cloud so the contribution from new <unk>.

Speaker Change: <unk>, if you like from AI ops from automation and from customer service hubs, we expect that to continue to be a large contributor and as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, we will not have an incident management and 73% of our overall <unk>.

Speaker Change: Sure.

Speaker Change: So the contribution from the other products is increasing.

Speaker Change: Okay. Thank you very helpful.

Speaker Change: Thank you so much snacks, we're moving to Andrew Sherman with TD Cowen Andrew. Please go ahead. Thanks.

Owen Howard Wilson: Thank you so much. Next, we're moving to Andrew Sherman with TD Cowen. Andrew, please go ahead. Great, thanks. Hey, congrats. Howard, so ARR is going to, it's Andrew on for Derek, by the way.

Speaker Change: Congrats.

Andrew Michael Sherman: Howard So errors, it's Andrew on for Derek by the way Andrew Andrew.

Owen Howard Wilson: Yeah, hi Andrew. Hey Andrew. So ARR is going to be your leading indicator here in the second half. Any color on how much you think that can accelerate as we get into the second half? We haven't provided any specific guidance on that, Andrew, but our view is that we will see acceleration on that in the back half of the year. And part of that is because we have so much that's in place that we've already been able to demonstrate around being able to do these larger six and seven-figure deals, get customers to take multiple products, and have them commit to multi-year arrangements. And in fact, our new ARR this past quarter was the best it's been in six quarters, and our expansion ARR was the best it had been in four quarters.

Andrew Michael Sherman: So they are always going to be youre, leading indicator here in the second half any color on how much you think that can accelerate as we get into the second half.

Andrew Michael Sherman: We haven't provided provided any specific guidance on that Andrew but our view is that we will see acceleration on that in the back half of the year and part of it is because we have so much that's in place that we've already been able to demonstrate around being able to do these larger six and seven figure deals get custom.

Andrew Michael Sherman: To take multiple products have them commit to multiyear arrangements any effect on new R. R.

Last quarter was the base that's been in six quarters and our expansion are always the best in a beta in full quarters and pipeline conversion improved from the real low in Q1 of last year rock through back to the typical levels in Q4. So we believe that the changes in the adjustments that we've made and put us in a good place.

Jennifer G. Tejada: And our pipeline conversion improved from a real low in Q1 of last year right through to the typical levels in Q4. So we believe that the changes and the adjustments that we've made have put us in a good place. Now, obviously, we have a pipeline that goes out much further than we had historically. Instead of just an exporter, we're looking two, three, four quarters ahead now. And that means that our ability to manage that is different, improve visibility, but also the opportunity to drive incremental growth given the gestation of those things. That's great. Thanks. And Jen, you just had a big renewal quarter here. How would you characterize the behavior of that group versus your expectations going in?

Andrew Michael Sherman: Now obviously, we have pipeline that goes out much further than we had historically instead of just the next quarter were looking two three full quarters off now and that means that our ability to to manage that is different.

Andrew Michael Sherman: Prove visibility, but also the opportunity to drive incremental growth given the gestation of those deals.

Andrew Michael Sherman: And John you just had a big renewal quarter here, how would you characterize the behavior of that group versus your expectations go ahead and as the top down C level approach kind of helping you drive these larger deals and it sounds like budgets have improved.

Jennifer G. Tejada: And is the top-down, sea-level approach kind of helping you drive these larger deals? And it sounds like budgets have improved. So you kind of see that continuing in the next couple of quarters. Yeah, I mean, there's no such thing as an overnight success.

Speaker Change: I see that continuing here in the next couple of quarters.

John: Yeah, I mean, there's no such thing as an overnight success and stuff.

Jennifer G. Tejada: And so I don't think that there have been several quarters of working with customers. And, in fact, many of our customers have trusted us for years but just now have the budget capacity and the confidence in managing their own business volatility to make more strategic, longer-term agreements. And they see the platform opportunity as a way to consolidate some of the point solution players that are using them for different things across the business. The other thing that we're seeing customers realize is that despite spending millions of dollars on observability, they're still learning about major incidents from their customers. In some cases, it's 20 percent.

John: But it's been several quarters of <unk>.

John: Working with customers and in fact, you know many of our customers have trusted us for years.

John: But just now have the budget capacity.

John: And the confidence in managing their own business volatility to make more strategic longer term agreement.

John: Agreements and they see it.

John: The platform opportunity as a way to consolidate some of the point solution players that are using for different things.

John: Things across the business. The other thing that we're seeing customers realizes that despite spending millions of dollars on observer ability, they're still learning about major incidents from their customers in some cases, it's 20% in other cases, it's a significantly higher percentage and so they're coming to us for AI ops.

Jennifer G. Tejada: In other cases, it's a significantly higher percentage, and so they're coming to us for AIOps. And just in mid market and enterprise, we now have over 250 customers using our AIOps solution and, in most cases, integrating that as a part of the operations cloud. So from my perspective, when I look at the promise of this change in behavior and kind of willingness to engage with us on a long-term basis, the way I think about it is that it's a huge TAM. It's still a very early market.

John: In the Midmarket and enterprise, we now have over 250 customers using our <unk> solution and in most cases integrating that as a part of the operations cloud.

John: So from my perspective, when I look at the promise of this change no change in behavior and kind of willingness to.

John: Engage with us on a long term basis the way I think about it is it's a huge tam it's still a very early market and you. All know me like I'm not going to be happy with 20% growth like we see ourselves as a growth company, we're putting ourselves in a position to be durable from a profitability perspective to produce cash flow and you know I think.

Jennifer G. Tejada: And you all know me like I'm not going to be happy with 20 percent growth like we see ourselves as a growth company. We're putting ourselves in a position to be durable from a profitability perspective to produce cash flow. And, you know, I think we've emerged from a hard year much stronger and in a much more resilient operational position with the growth investments in place and the capacity to reaccelerate growth. Thank you. Okay, thank you, team. Next, we're going to hear from Jacob Roberge and William Blair.

John: We have emerged from a hard year much stronger and in a much more resilient operational position with the gross investments in place and the capacity to Reaccelerate growth.

Speaker Change: Excellent. Thank you.

Speaker Change: Okay. Thank you team next we're going to hear from Jacob Bearish with William Blair William Blair excuse me.

Jennifer G. Tejada: Hey, thanks for taking the questions. Hi Jacob. Hi, how are you?

Jacob Bearish: Hey, thanks for taking the questions.

Jacob Bearish: Hi.

Jacob Bearish: Hi, how are you just wanted to follow up on that renewal question from Andrew I know you called out some larger customer down cells last quarter in Q3 did that stabilizing in Q4 and kind of at the start of Q1 or were those still present throughout the quarter.

Owen Howard Wilson: Just wanted to follow up on that renewal question from Andrew. I know you called out some larger customer downsells last quarter in Q3. Did that stabilize in Q4 and kind of at the start of Q1? Or were those still present throughout the quarter?

Owen Howard Wilson: Yeah, we definitely saw an improvement, Jacob, in Q4. And that was really as a result of some of the measures we put in place a couple of quarters ago, which were really about engaging with customers earlier in the renewal cycle and ensuring that we were focused more particularly on how they were using the product and how they were getting value. So those changes that we made led to us being able to improve our gross retention in Q4, which is, in fact, our biggest renewal quarter. And so those changes are ongoing. It's not something that we're done with. We're going to continue with that program to ensure that we can sustain high levels of gross, Okay, helpful. And then great to hear that Net New AR was the best in a few quarters.

Speaker Change: Yeah, we definitely saw an improvement Jacob in Q4 and that was really as a result of some of the measures. We put in place a couple of quarters ago, which were really about engaging with customers earlier in the renewal cycle and ensuring that we were focused more particularly on how they were using the product and how they were getting value. So.

Speaker Change: Those changes that we made led to us being able to improve our gross retention in Q4, which is in fact, our biggest renewal quarter and so those obviously those changes are ongoing it's not something that now we're done.

Speaker Change: We're going to continue with that program to ensure that we can sustain high levels of retention.

Speaker Change: Okay helpful. And then great to hear that no new IRR was was the best in the and a few quarters can you talk about what drove that performance was that mainly just stabilization in the core incident management business or was that more driven by some of those larger platform deals.

Jennifer G. Tejada: Can you talk about what drove that performance? Was that mainly just stabilization, the core incident management business? Or was that more driven by some of those larger platform deals that you called out during the quarter? It was definitely driven by an improvement in cross-selling and up-selling. So, I think we mentioned earlier that now 62% of our ARR comes from customers with two or more products. That's a four percentage point improvement over the previous quarter. And I see that as early momentum.

Speaker Change: That you called out during the quarter.

Speaker Change: It was definitely driven by an improvement in cross selling and up selling so I think we mentioned earlier that now 62% of our air or comes from customers with two or more products. That's a four percentage point improvement over the previous quarter and a.

Speaker Change: See that as the early momentum you know when you look at some of these larger deals that we've been able to.

Jennifer G. Tejada: You know, when you look at some of these larger deals that we've been able to close over the last quarter, we feel confident that that is a trend that should continue over time, particularly as we've done a better job, I think, than we have in the past, of driving awareness around what the operations cloud actually is, what it can do, and why bringing those four pillars together in an integrated platform is greater than the sum of the parts And we've also invested in branding around this and invested in enablement and helping our sales reps make that transition from that more transactional, functional, and technical sale to a technical individual or mid-level manager to more of a business-centric, value-driven conversation with a CIO and a CTO.

Speaker Change: Close over the last quarter, we feel confident that that is a trend that should continue over time, particularly as we've done a better job I think than we had in the past of driving awareness around what the operations cloud actually is what it can do and why at bringing those four pillars together in an integrated platform is.

Speaker Change: Greater than the sum of the parts and we've also invested in branding around this and invested in enablement and helping our our sales reps to make that transition from that more transactional functional and technical sale to a technical individual or mid level manager to more of a business centric value driven.

Speaker Change: Asian with the CIO in S E T O and one other thing that I noticed is that the.

Jennifer G. Tejada: And one other thing that I noticed is that the technology leaders that we're working with in the largest companies of the world are more technical than they used to be. So, you know, we deal with a CIO at a large investment bank who actually came out of a cloud-based business, as opposed to somebody who came out of a procurement or program management business.

Speaker Change: The technology leaders that we're working with in the largest companies of the world are more technical than they used to be so.

Speaker Change: We deal with a CIO at a large investment bank, who actually came out of a cloud based business as opposed to somebody who came out of our procurement our program management business and that.

Jennifer G. Tejada: And that is a trend that I like seeing in the customer base. Very helpful. Thank you. Yeah, and I think I'd just add to that, Jacob, that 62% of our errors are coming from customers with more than two products. That was an improvement from 58% a year ago.

Speaker Change: That is a trend that that I I like seeing in the customer base.

Speaker Change: Very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker Change: And I think I'd, just add to that Jacob that's 62%.

Speaker Change: Although there are coming from customers with more than than two products that was an improvement pumps, 58% a year ago and the way that that shows up is that when we look at the net you are all within the quarter, we're seeing a much larger contribution coming from <unk>.

Owen Howard Wilson: And the way that that shows up is that when we look at the net new error within the quarter, we're seeing a much larger contribution coming from products outside of incident management, to the extent that now we're seeing this dynamic as customers adopt the operations card, where the incident management portion is smaller than the portion that's coming from the AI Ops process automation or CS Ops. Great, and thank you. From B of A Securities in for Koji Ikeda, I believe.

Speaker Change: Products outside of incident management and to the extent that now we are seeing this dynamic as customers adopt the operations cod with the incident management portion is smaller than the portion that's coming from.

Speaker Change: So they then from the AI ops process automation will see yourself space.

Bofa Securities: And thank you from Bofa Securities for Kochi cute I believe so let me go ahead and bring you on screen.

Bofa Securities: I think he might be on mute as.

Operator: I think you might be on mute. Oh, is your headset muted? It looks like Zoom has you. Nope, no audio. You can try unplugging it and plugging it back in, maybe.

Bofa Securities: Is your headset muted it looks like zoom has you on muted.

Speaker Change: No no audio you can try unplugging, it and plugging it back and maybe.

Operator: Sorry for the trouble. We want to hear from you. You could mime the question at www.charlesboyk-law.com. Sorry, we're still unable to hear you. I don't think they can hear you.

Speaker Change: Sorry for the trouble.

Speaker Change: We want to hear from you.

Speaker Change: You could minding the question.

Speaker Change: [laughter].

Speaker Change: Sorry, we're still unable to hear you.

Speaker Change: It looks like they can hear us yeah.

Operator: Well, Jennifer, what do you say? Should we close it up? Yeah, I mean, I'm happy to take a question in chat, or we can close it out. Code GRU.

Speaker Change: Well, Jennifer what do you say sort of close it up.

Jennifer: Oh, Yeah, I mean, I'm happy to take a question in chat or we can close it out.

Speaker Change: Oh, Dear you I'm, sorry, we can't hear you.

Jennifer G. Tejada: I'm sorry, we can't hear you. Okay, Jen, over to you for a moment. Thank you so much.

Speaker Change: Okay Jan over it.

Speaker Change: Okay, well already so much well look I I just wanted to thank everybody for joining us today I am really proud of the operational resilience. Our teams continue to demonstrate and I'm encouraged by the stability and the momentum emerging from our enterprise focus more than anything I appreciate the loyalty and our partners and the partnership are cut.

Jennifer G. Tejada: Well, look, I just want to thank everybody for joining us today. I am really proud of the operational resilience our teams continue to demonstrate, and I'm encouraged by the stability and the momentum emerging from our enterprise focus. More than anything, I appreciate the loyalty and the partnership our customers and our users have demonstrated over the last year, and we look forward to building on our long-term vision to revolutionize operations. Thank you very much for joining us today. Goodbye.

Speaker Change: <unk> and our users have demonstrated over the last year and we look forward to building on our long term vision to revolutionize operations. Thank you very much for joining us today.

Speaker Change: Goodbye.