Q4 2023 BRC Inc Earnings Call

Operator: Greetings. Welcome to the Black Rifle Coffee Company fourth quarter 2023 earnings conference. At this time, all participants are on a listen-only basis. A question-and-answer session will follow this. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad.

Greetings welcome to the Black Rifle Coffee company fourth quarter 2023 earnings call. At this time all participants are in a listen only mode a question.

A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference. Please press star zero on your telephone keypad.

Operator: Please note this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Tanner Doss, Vice President of Investigations. You may begin. Good morning, everyone.

Please note this conference is being recorded.

I'll now turn the conference over to your host Sandra Das Vice President of Investor Relations you may begin.

Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining black rightful coffee company's conference call to discuss our fourth quarter 2023 financial results, which were released yesterday and can be found on our website at IR <unk> Black rifle coffee dotcom.

Tanner Doss: Thank you for joining Black Rifle Coffee Company's conference call to discuss our fourth quarter 2023 financial results, which were released yesterday and can be found on our website at ir.blackriflecoffee.com. Before we start, I would like to remind you of the company's Safe Harbor language, which I'm sure you are all familiar with. On today's call, management may make forward-looking statements, including guidance and underlying assumptions. Such statements are based on expectations that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially.

Before we start I would like to remind you of the company's safe Harbor language, which I'm sure you're all familiar with.

On today's call management may make forward looking statements, including guidance and underlying assumptions forward looking statements are based on expectations that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially for further discussion of risks related to our business. Please see our previous filings with the SEC. This call will also contain non-GAAP financial measures such as adjusted EBITDA.

Tanner Doss: For further discussion of risks related to our business, please see our previous filings with the SEC. This call will also contain non-GAAP financial measures, such as adjusted EBITDA. Wherever we refer to EBITDA in our comments, we are referring to adjusted EBITDA, unless otherwise noted.

Wherever we refer to EBITDA in her comments, we are referring to adjusted EBITDA unless otherwise noted reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures are included in the earnings release furnished to the SEC and they're also available on our Investor website. Now if you could please turn to slide three in the presentation that we provided on our Investor Relations website I'd like to turn the call over.

Tanner Doss: Reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures are included in the earnings release, and they are also available on our investor website. Now, if you could please turn to slide 3 in the presentation that we provided on our investor relations website. I'd like to turn the call over now to Chris Mondzelewski, CEO of Black Rifle Coffee Company. Thanks, Tanner, and good morning, everyone.

Now to Chris months' Olesky CEO black rightful coffee company months. Thanks.

Thanks, Tanner and good morning, everyone. Joining me today is Steve could Dennis <unk>, our Chief Financial Officer, and Evan Hafer, our founder and executive Chairman. We've also provided a presentation that we will refer to throughout the call.

Chris Mondzelewski: Joining me today is Steve Kadenacy, our Chief Financial Officer, and Evan Hafer, our Founder and Executive Chairman. We've also provided a presentation that we will refer to throughout, which you can find on our investor website. Please turn to slide four of that presentation. Before I get into the details of our business, I want to reflect for a minute on what it means to lead Black Rifle Coffee. Steve and I will talk about an exceptionally healthy business model that we believe is on the precipice of changing how the wider population thinks about brands in the coffee category. In fact, the data would say we are already doing it, but leading Black Rifle goes much deeper.

Which you can find on our Investor website, Please turn to slide four of that presentation.

Before I get into the details of our business I want to reflect for a minute on what it means to lead black rifle coffee company.

Steve and I will talk about an exceptionally healthy business model that we believe is on the precipice of changing how the wider population thinks about brands and the coffee category.

In fact, the data would say we are already doing that.

But leading black rifle goes much deeper.

Chris Mondzelewski: I have the honor and the responsibility to partner on a mission first set out by Evan Hafer and a founding team that truly understands service to country. Through countless deployments and combat missions, they came to know what sacrifice truly means. And as a Marine, before my career in business, I also saw this sacrifice on a day-to-day basis. In fact, nearly half of our employees at Black Rifle are veterans, and we'd like to believe we have a deeper understanding of what sacrifice and mission mean than most consumer companies. Demonstrating this, Evan is currently in Florida training for a founder-led initiative to commemorate the 80th anniversary of D-Day, an event of profound historical significance. To honor this, Evan organized a training trip for employees and fellow veterans to Florida, where they will prepare for an era-appropriate parachute jump onto the beaches of Normandy during the 80th anniversary.

I have the honor and the responsibility to partner on a mission first set out upon by Evan Hafer, and our founder team that truly understand service to country.

Through countless deployments in combat missions. They came to know was sacrificed truly means.

And as a marine before my career in business I also saw the sacrifice on a day to day basis.

In fact, nearly half of our employees at Black rifle, our veterans and.

And we'd like to believe we have a deeper understanding of what sacrifice emission mean than most consumer companies demonstrating this evidence currently in Florida training for our founder led initiatives to commemorate the 80th anniversary of DDA and.

In event of profound historical significance.

To honor this ebb and organize the training trip for employees and fellow veterans to Florida, where they will prepare for an era appropriate parachute jump onto the beaches of Normandy during the 18th anniversary.

Chris Mondzelewski: This initiative not only pays homage to the bravery and sacrifices of our veterans but also reinforces our ongoing commitment to the veteran community. Americans, more than ever, are demanding that brands they buy stand for something. In a Black Rifle, we stand for those who serve.

This initiative not only pays homage to the bravery and sacrifices of our veterans, but also reinforces our ongoing commitment to the veteran community.

Americans more than ever are demanding the brands they buy stand for something and a black rifle, we stand for those who serve.

Chris Mondzelewski: My team and I firmly believe that success at Black Rifle is a symbiotic marriage of value creation and mission. Through value creation and mission, we enable Black Rifle to form strategic partnerships with the world's most successful companies. This is demonstrated by our ongoing grocery expansion and our recently announced partnership with the U.S. It creates awareness of our brand, enabling sales, and thereby multiplying our mission. We will always measure our success through both shareholder value and the veteran and first responder lives we imagine.

My team and I firmly believe that success at Black rifle is a symbiotic marriage of value creation and mission.

With value creation and mission, we enable black rifle to form strategic partnerships with the world's most successful companies.

This is demonstrated with our ongoing grocery expansion.

And our recently announced partnership with the UFC.

It creates awareness of our brand, enabling sales and thereby multiplying our mission.

We will always measure our success through both shareholder value and veteran and first responder lives, we impact what is enabling us to grow at four times to market an RTD how did we become the fourth largest bagged coffee brand in the world's largest retailer in just one year, it's a steadfast unfaltering commitment to both value creation and mission.

Chris Mondzelewski: What is enabling us to grow at four times the market in RTD? How did we become the fourth largest bag coffee brand in the world's largest retailer in just one year? It's a steadfast, unfaltering commitment to both value creation and mission.

Chris Mondzelewski: What we are seeing right now is a company coming into full stride, maturing, executing with precision, and creating a market through missions in a manner that has never been done in this category. In this discussion, we will speak about how we are becoming more consistent in our delivery, expanding the reach of our brand, and strategically taking market share. We will methodically build our market distribution in both packaged coffee and ready-to-drink beverages, ensuring we stay true to our high level of service to both partners. As should be expected of a super premium mission-oriented company, Black Rifle will also continue to evaluate partnerships to increase our value and further extend our mission. The service of the veteran and first responder communities is not something we will take on alone.

What we're seeing right now as a company coming into full stride maturing executing with precision and creating a market through mission in a manner that was never done in this category. In this discussion we will speak about how we are becoming a more consistent in our delivery expanding the reach of our brand and strategically taking market share we will.

Methodically build our market distribution in both packaged coffee and ready to drink beverages, ensuring we stay true to our high level of service to both partners and consumers.

As should be expected of a super premium mission oriented brand.

Black Rifle will also continue to evaluate partnerships to increase our value and further extend our mission. The service of the veteran and first responder communities is not something we will take on alone 94% of Americans want to find ways to support the veteran community and we are confident that the biggest companies and brands in the world and most.

Chris Mondzelewski: Ninety-four percent of Americans want to find ways to support the veteran community, and we are confident that the biggest companies and brands in the world, and, most importantly, our consumers, will continue to support us in bringing this mission to life. I will now discuss our results and the trends across our business. Steve will then review our financial performance and outlook in greater detail before turning the call over to the question and answer session. Please turn to slide five. We continue to see the company transform on many of our key metrics. We finished the year up 31% in net revenue while also having the most profitable year to date with adjusted EBITDA of $13.3 million. This was primarily due to the remarkable success of our wholesale business, which grew by 89%, and our focus on operational excellence, which Steve will discuss in more detail in a moment. Turning to our channel highlights, please turn to slides. 2023 was the first full year that we entered the FDM, or Food Drug Mass, channel with our bags in a round. The performance was tremendous

Importantly, our consumers will continue to support us in bringing this mission to life.

I'll now discuss our results and the trends across our business units. Steve will then review our financial performance and outlook in greater detail before turning the call over for the question and answer session. Please turn to slide five we continue to see the company transforming on many of our key metrics.

We finished the year up 31% and net revenue while also having the most profitable year to date with adjusted EBITDA of $13 3 million.

This was primarily due to the remarkable success of our wholesale business, which grew by 89% and our focus on operational excellence, which Steve will discuss in more detail in a moment turning to our channel highlights please turn to slide seven.

2023 was the first full year that we entered the F D M or food drug mass channel with our bags and rounds the performance was tremendous.

Chris Mondzelewski: Our success began with our largest customer, where we outperformed the category by over 18 times in the last quarter. We are proud of our partnership with the largest FDM retailers, significantly outpacing the category in our first full year, all while selling a premium price. This continued brand success has allowed us to begin what will be a two-year process of rolling out bagged coffee in rounds into the broader FDM market. It's clear that the market is welcoming this rollout.

Our success began with our largest customer where we outperformed the category by over 18 times over the last quarter.

We are proud of our partnership with the largest F. D M retailers significantly outpacing the category in our first full year, all while selling a premium priced coffee. This continued brand success has allowed us to begin what will be a two year process of rolling out bagged coffee and rounds into the broader F. D M market.

It's clear that the market is welcoming this rollout we introduced new grocery partners throughout Q3, and Q4, ending the year with twenty-three retail partners and in all commodity volume or a C V of 37%.

Chris Mondzelewski: We introduced new grocery partners throughout Q3 and Q4, ending the year with 23 retail partners and an all commodity volume, or ACV, of 37%, up significantly from the beginning of the year, but still only a fraction of the total market. This illustrates that the majority of the opportunity is still in front of us. It is worth pausing for a moment to consider the trends within the bagged coffee and rounds market to understand our success; we're benefiting from a trend towards premiumization, at-home coffee as customers look to replicate the premium experience typically delivered in the out-of-home market. As a result, super-premium brands, particularly Black Rifle, are benefiting.

Significantly from the beginning of the year, but still only a fraction of the total market. This illustrates that the majority of the opportunity is still in front of US. It is worth pausing for a moment to consider the trends within the bagged coffee and rounds market to understand our success.

We're benefiting from a trend towards premium position of at home coffee as customers look to replicate the premium experience typically delivered in the out of home market.

As a result, superpremium brands, particularly black rifle are benefiting.

Chris Mondzelewski: Just a few metrics to highlight these macro trends. We continue to build distribution across the coffee aisle, expanding ACV eight points from 29% to 37%. In a little over a year, we've grown into the eighth largest brand in the coffee aisle, fourth in bagged, and our largest partner. In grocery, more broadly, we have risen to number eight, up from number 10 when we spoke last quarter.

Just a few metrics to highlight these macro trends at work, we continue to build distribution across the coffee aisle expanding a C V eight points from 29% to 37% and a little over a year, we've grown into the eighth largest brand in the coffee aisle fourth and bagged coffee and our largest partner.

And grocery more broadly we have risen to the number eight brand up from number 10, when we spoke last quarter.

Chris Mondzelewski: These early indicators of success are encouraging as we continue to methodically build distribution and availability in 2020. We will do so in an aggressive but measured fashion, ensuring a high level of service and continued super premium positioning. And by the end of 2025, we expect to be present in every major FM.

These early indicators of success are encouraging as we continue to methodically build distribution and availability in 'twenty 'twenty four we will do so in an aggressive but measured fashion.

Ensuring a high level of service and continued super premium positioning and by the end of 'twenty 'twenty five we expect to be present in every major F. D M retailer.

Chris Mondzelewski: Turning to slide eight, we're showing a similar success story within Ready to Drink, or RTD. While the category has been stable to slightly down in 2023, we grew significantly, 32%, taking 90 basis points of market share on the. Our core SKUs remain ranked in the top 20 for RTD coffee, and our ACV continues to climb, ending the year at 43.4%, a 480 basis point jump from a year ago In 2024, we will continue to drive both distribution of our existing six core SKUs, as well as partnership with new retailers, across both grocery and convenience. Black Rifle has been the clear winner across RTD Coffee.

Turning to slide eight we're showing a similar success story within ready to drink or RTD, while the category has been stable to slightly down in 2020. Three we grew significantly 32%, taking 90 basis points of market share on the year. Our core Skus remain ranked in the top 20 for RTD coffee.

Fee and our a C V continues to climb ending the year at 43, 4% a.

A 480 basis point jump from a year ago in 'twenty 'twenty four we will continue to drive both distribution of our existing six core S. Skus as well as partnership with new retailers across both grocery and convenience stores.

Plaque rifle has been the clear winner across RTD coffee consumers are voting for the brand. We will take advantage of this momentum and similar to our bagged coffee and rounds expect our RTD products to be present in most of the country by 2025.

Chris Mondzelewski: Consumers are voting for the brand. We will take advantage of this momentum, and, similar to our bagged coffee and rounds, expect our RTD products to be present in most of the country by 2020. Additionally, we will focus heavily on our RTD business model through strategic cost optimization. Steve will talk more about this in his Beyond our core six SKUs for RTD, we will continue to consider opportunities for strategic innovation. Consumers are increasingly looking for new and interesting alternatives as they drink beverages throughout the day.

Additionally, we will focus heavily on our RTD business model through strategic cost optimization, Steve will talk more about this in his section.

Beyond our core six S. Skus for RTD, we will continue to consider the opportunities for strategic innovation.

Consumers are increasingly looking for new and interesting alternatives as they drink beverages throughout the day with.

Chris Mondzelewski: With our strong brand and coffee credentials, we have the market access and permission to take advantage of trends with new and exciting products. We look forward to sharing more on the timing and specifics of our innovation work later. Moving on to direct-to-consumer, please flip to slide 9. Before discussing our DTC business, it is useful to step back and note the trends in the broader DTC market. The reality is that, post-COVID, the behavior of purchasing direct-to-consumer is down across the board.

With our strong brand and coffee credentials, we have the market access and permission to take advantage of trends with new and exciting products. We look forward to sharing more on the timing and specifics of our innovation work later this year.

Moving onto direct to consumer please flip to slide nine before.

Before discussing our DTC business. It is useful to step back and note the trends in the broader DTC market.

The reality is that post COVID-19 the behavior of purchasing direct to consumer is down across the board.

Chris Mondzelewski: Consumer patterns change over time, so it's absolutely critical to be where the consumer wants to buy. Post-COVID, consumers have shifted back into stores, and that's okay because we are making significant strides in those locations as well. While DTC will not likely drive growth for Black Rifle in 2024, we are smartly optimizing the business, allowing us to stabilize our subscription and revenue. DTC will always be a core piece of our portfolio as it allows us a deeper relationship with our most loyal customers, many of whom are veterans and first responders. We are committed to maintaining the position of the largest and most exciting DTC coffee subscription business in the U.S. As a result, we are investing in our platform to make it better. We recently implemented changes to our website and mobile app, giving our 226,000 Coffee Club subscribers more subscription options and providing them with flexibility and variety with their current subscription.

Consumer patterns change over time, it's absolutely critical to be where the consumer wants to buy.

Post COVID-19 consumers shifted back into stores and that's okay. Because we are making significant strides in those locations as well, while DTC will not likely drive growth for black rifle in 'twenty 'twenty four we're smartly optimizing the business, allowing us to stabilize our subscription and revenue trends D. T C will always be.

Core piece of our portfolio as it allows us a deeper relationship with our most loyal customers many of whom are veterans and first responders themselves.

We are committed to maintaining the position of the largest and most exciting D. T C coffee subscription business in the U S. As.

As a result, we are investing in our platform to make it better we recently implemented changes to our website and mobile app, giving our 226000 coffee club subscribers more subscription options and providing them flexibility and variety with their current subscription offerings on the backend. These optimizations have.

Chris Mondzelewski: On the back end, these optimizations have also helped us with customer retention, satisfaction, and further supply chain optimization. We look to our Direct-to-Consumer Channel as a lab for innovation, as we can rapidly iterate innovative ideas. To our most loyal customers, please move to slide 10. We ended the year with 36 out, our version of coffee.

Also helped us with customer retention and satisfaction and further supply chain optimization.

We look to our direct to consumer channel as a lab for innovation as we can rapidly iterate innovative ideas to our most loyal customer base.

Please move to slide 10.

We ended the year with 36 outposts our version of coffee shops, while we are still in our tactical pause phase without posts and not allocating any growth capital to them in 'twenty 'twenty four we remain bullish that they will be a key element to our long term growth, which we expect will recommence in 2025 and beyond.

Chris Mondzelewski: While we are still in our tactical pause phase with outposts and not allocating any growth capital to them in 2024, we remain bullish that they will be a key element to our long-term growth, which we expect will recommence in 2025. As we've communicated previously, we are analyzing the segment, supporting our franchisees, and maximizing the performance of our existing locations before pushing forward with the rapid expansion of this critical market I am personally spending a lot of time working with our franchise partners and internal Outpost Team to ensure that the next evolution of the Black Rifle Outposts will represent a unique Black Rifle experience.

As we've communicated previously we are analyzing the segment to support our franchisees and maximize the performance of our existing locations before pushing forward with the rapid expansion of this critical market I am personally spending a lot of time working with our franchise partners and internal outposts team to insure.

At the next evolution of the Black rifle outposts will represent a unique black rifle experience.

Chris Mondzelewski: Before Steve dives into more detail about our financial... I want to reiterate how proud I am of our new leadership. I continue to be amazed by the talent our brand attracts, and the team has really gelled in pursuit of a common purpose over the last few years. We have faced a number of challenges head on, and we have been able to navigate our way while implementing processes and procedures to ensure that our business is prepared for a decade of sustainable growth. Our team's commitment to the mission, unmatched CPG and public company knowledge, and tireless effort on focused execution make this possible. I couldn't be prouder to stand alongside you as we build and execute the road map to becoming a billion-dollar company. With that, I'm turning to our financial resources. Steve.

Before Steve dives into more detail about our financial results I want to reiterate how proud I am of our new leadership team.

I continue to be amazed by the talent our brand attract and the team has really gelled and pursuit of a common purpose over the last year.

We have faced a number of challenges head on and we have been able to navigate our way while implementing processes and procedures to ensure that our business is prepared for a decade of sustainable growth.

Our team's commitment to the mission unmatched C. P G and public company knowledge and tireless effort on focused execution make this possible I couldn't be prouder to stand alongside you as we build and execute the roadmap to becoming a billion dollar business.

With that turning to our financial results Steve. Thanks months. Please turn to slide 13 on our last call I told you that our key objectives when joining black rightful team include improving execution against our business plan driving data center decision, making enhancing our focus on investor returns and building a world class.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: Thanks, Mondze. Please turn to slide 13. On our last call, I told you that our key objectives when joining Black Rifle Team included improving execution against our business plan, driving data-centered decision-making, enhancing our focus on investor returns, and building a world-class finance team. With another quarter behind us, I can say that we have made significant progress towards all of these goals, and we are bearing the fruit of this progress in our financial results. In the last 90 days of the year, we took on First, we right-sized our headcount to our market opportunities and focused the company on these key activities. The result is that we are starting the year with 288 fewer employees than a year ago. Second, we also reduced operating expenditures significantly, particularly in the area of outside professional fees, and reduced our marketing spend by allocating those dollars to our highest-growth business and improving its effectiveness by deploying a more analytical approach.

Finance team.

With another quarter behind Us I can say that we have made significant progress towards all of these goals and we are bearing the fruit of this progress in our financials.

In the last 90 days of the year, we took on for critical operational excellence initiatives first we right sized our head count to our market opportunities and focus the company on these key activities.

The result is that we are starting the year with 288 fewer head count than a year ago.

Second we also reduced operating expenditures significantly, particularly in the area of outside professional fees and reduced our marketing spend by allocating those dollars to our highest growth businesses and improving its effectiveness by deploying a more analytical approach.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: Third, we took focused action to ensure inventory oversupply that had been created during the first half of 2023 was dealt with, and we are now Right Sized for the Future. This action resulted in significant non-cash write-downs in Q4, but it's positioned us well for the future. Our inventory levels have now been reduced to $56.5 million.

Third we took focused action to ensure inventory oversupply that had been created during the first half of 2023 was dealt with and.

And we are now right sized for the future.

This action resulted in significant noncash write downs in Q4, but has positioned us well for the future.

Our inventory levels have now been reduced to $56 $5 million, a 38% decrease from Q3.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: 38% decrease from Q3. These issues are behind us now as we're nearing optimal inventory levels driven by healthy demand, strong execution in the business, and the inventory cleanup that we took care of in Q4. Fourth, we established several initiatives to improve our gross margin, which I'll drill into a bit more. Please turn to slide 14.

These issues are behind US now as we're nearing optimal inventory levels, driven by healthy demand and strong execution in the business.

And the inventory cleanup that we took care of in Q4.

Fourth we established several initiatives to improve our gross margin, which I'll drill into a bit more please turn to slide 14 drilling down on the gross margin initiatives. We are expecting continued improvements as our initiatives take hold.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: Drilling down on the gross margin initiatives, we are expecting continued improvements as our initiatives take hold; we're improving efficiency across all facets of the supply chain. While we're seeing the natural benefits from increasing the mix of FDM, which carries a strong gross margin, we're also making improvements in distribution and logistics, manufacturing, and sourcing that will more than offset anticipated inflation and drive us towards our goal of 40 plus percent gross margin. Please turn to slide 15.

We are improving efficiency across all facets of the supply chain.

While we're seeing the natural benefits from increasing mix of F. D M, which carries a strong gross margin. We are also making improvements in distribution and logistics manufacturing and sourcing that will more than offset anticipated inflation and drive us towards our goal of 40 plus percent gross margins.

Please turn to slide 15, turning to the quarter, our total revenue increased 28% to $119 $7 million with the wholesale channel growing by a strong 79%.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: Turning to the quarter, our total revenue increased 28% to $119.7 million, with the Wholesale Channel growing by a strong 79%. The results of the cost savings initiatives are encouraging, and they will be evident in Q4. Our SG&A represented 38% of our revenue compared to 52.3% in the year prior, and our adjusted EBITDA of $12.2 million is both sequentially and annually expansive. This is the highest adjusted EBITDA quarter we have achieved, and I expect strong profitability to continue in 2024 and beyond. Please turn to slide 16.

The results of the cost savings initiatives are encouraging and are evident in Q4, our SG&A represented 38% of our revenue compared to 52.3% in the year prior and our adjusted EBITDA of $12 2 million is both sequentially and annually expansive.

This is the highest adjusted EBITDA quarter, we have achieved and I expect strong profitability to continue in 'twenty 'twenty four and beyond please turn to slide 16.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: For the year, our revenue is up 31%. Adjusted gross margin is up 360 basis points, and adjusted EBITDA improved from a loss of $34 million to a positive $13 million. In terms of our balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $12.4 million in cash and $71 million in long-term debt.

For the year, our revenue was up 31% adjusted gross margin is up 360 basis points and adjusted EBITDA improved from a loss of 34 million to positive $13 million.

In terms of our balance sheet, we ended the quarter with $12 4 million in cash and $71 million in long term debt as.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: As previously discussed, we have reached an inflection point in the business, and we are now forecasting continued and significant improvements in cash flow throughout 2024. Please turn to slide 18. We're excited to give you more details pertaining to our 2024 Outlook. We expect revenue to be between $430 and $460 million.

As previously discussed we have reached an inflection point in the business and we are now forecasting continued and significant improvements in cash flow throughout 'twenty 'twenty four.

Let's turn to slide 18, we're excited to give you more details pertaining to 'twenty 'twenty four outlook, we expect revenue to be between 430 and $460 million gross margins to be between 37% and 40% adjusted EBITDA to be between 27 and $40 million and we expect free cash flow conversion.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: Gross margins to be between 37% and 40%, and adjusted EBITDA to be between $27 and $40 million. And we expect free cash flow conversion of 80% of adjusted EBITDA. A few comments on our guidance. While our revenue growth rate is 16% at the high end of guidance, it's worth noting that revenue of 430 million to 460 million includes approximately $6 and a half million from a barter transaction to right-size our RTD inventory as compared to 395.6 million of revenue in 2023, which included 28.8 million from the same barter transaction. The reduction in one-time barter transactions negatively impacts 2024 revenue by 6 to 8 percent.

<unk> of 80% of adjusted EBITDA, a few comments on our guidance, while our revenue growth rate is 16% at the high end of guidance. It's worth noting that revenue of 430 million to 460 million includes approximately six and a half million dollars from a barter transaction to rightsize, our RTD inventory as compare.

Two $395 6 million of revenue in 2023 which included $28 8 million from the same barter transaction the reduction in onetime barter transactions negatively impacts 'twenty 'twenty four revenue by 6% to 8%.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: Our profitability and cash flow are expected to be markedly better in 2024. Operational efficiencies are driving real improvements here. For example, the low end of our Adjusted EBITDA range is more than double the Adjusted EBITDA of the year we just completed.

Our profitability and cash flow are expected to be markedly better in 'twenty 'twenty four operational efficiencies are driving real improvements here. The low end of our adjusted EBITDA range is more than double the adjusted EBITDA of the year, we just completed and for the first time ever we were guiding to robust cashflow to summarize each quarter.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: And for the first time ever, we are guiding to robust cash flow. To summarize, each quarter, we continue to see revenue growth and sequential improvements in profit. This profitability and cash flow acceleration will enable us to invest in new opportunities, fulfill our mission of serving the shareholders and the veteran and first responder communities while growing our business profitably for the foreseeable future. With that, I'll pass the call over to the operator for the Q&A session. Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone key. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is busy. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue.

We continue to see revenue growth and sequential improvements in profit this profitability and cash flow acceleration will enable us to invest in new opportunities fulfill our mission of serving the shareholders and the veteran and first responder communities, while growing our business profitably for the foreseeable future with that I'll pass the call.

All over to the operator for the Q&A session.

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Operator: For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star two. One moment, please. We poll for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Sarang Vora with Kelsey Group. Please proceed with your. Great. Steve and Chris, and a great job on managing the profits and Outlook for 24.

Your handset before pressing the star keys.

One moment, please at equal or question.

Our first question comes from the line of Sarah Angora with Telsey group.

Please proceed with your question.

Great, Steve and now Chris and they dig job on managing the profits and outlook for 'twenty for.

Sarang Vora: You know, my first question staying on the quarter, can you help us explain a little bit about this barter transaction in the fourth quarter? You know, it was kind of about advertising services. So just curious to know, you know, how it transpired and then will the benefits of advertising services, you know, and brand awareness help you guys in 24 hours from that? And then I have one more question after that. Sure, Sarang. I'll take the first part of the question and then flip it to Mondze. This is Steve.

My first question staying on the up on the quarter can you help us explain a little bit about the BARDA transaction in saltwater.

No. It was tightened up about the advertising services. So just curious to know how it transpired and then will the benefits of advertising services.

You know in brand awareness helped you guys been in bringing forward from that and then I have one more question after that.

Sure right.

I'll take the first part of the question and then flip it Tomorrow. This is Steve.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: The barter transaction was similar to the one that we did in Q3, just more robust. And the intent of it, and ultimately the success of it, was that we were able to write down less of our over-inventory that we had built in the first half. How it works, basically, is we sell them RTD at a discount, and they give us, in return, future marketing dollars. We are already up and running across all platforms using those marketing dollars, so the benefit is really our cash flow going forward, and it's working quite well. And we expect a bit more of that in Q1, and after that, we'll be off of those barter transactions entirely. I'll give you the second half to Mondze.

The transaction the barter transaction was similar to the one that we did in Q3, just a more robust and the intent of it and ultimately the success of it is that we were able to write down less of our over inventory that we had built in the first half are how it works basically as you know we sell them.

Our G D at a discount and they give us in return future marketing dollars.

We are already up and running across all platforms using those marketing dollars. So the the benefit of is really on our cash flow going forward.

And it's working quite well and we expect a bit more of that in Q1 and after that we'll be we'll be off of those barter transactions entirely I'll give you the second half to the month.

Chris Mondzelewski: Yeah, so great to hear from you, Sarang. I think, just to build on that, I think one thing I'd note, as a reminder, we had a fantastic year in RTD, as we talked about. We outgrew the category significantly, but we had that forecasting issue. And so, for us, the barter transaction was a fantastic way to deal with a difficult inventory situation.

Yeah. So a great to hear from you Surang I think just to build on that I think you know one thing I'd note you know.

As a reminder, you know we we had a fantastic year in our T. D. As we talked about we outgrew the category significantly but.

But we had had that forecasting issue and so for us the barter transaction was a fantastic way to deal with a difficult inventory situation.

Chris Mondzelewski: What we've been able to do is, as we've moved into 24, take those credits, and convert them into advertising dollars, which is something that was a big part of our plan anyway. So, as we've talked about, we're on a mission to continue to bring the brand to additional audiences. Advertising is not something that the brand has done a ton of in the past. Instead, we leaned heavily on social media. We're still focusing on social media, but we've now been able to add the advertising component as well.

What we've been able to do is we've been able to now take those credits as we've moved into 'twenty four and.

And convert them into advertising dollars, which is something that was a big part of our plan anyway. So as we've talked about there where we're on a mission to continue to bring the brand to additional audiences advertising is not something that the brand had done a ton of in the past we leaned heavily on social media, we're still pressing on social media.

But we've now been able to add the advertising component as well so in a way the credits were actually a perfect fit for us from a value creation standpoint.

Chris Mondzelewski: So, in a way, the credits were actually a perfect fit for us from a value creation standpoint. That's great. And you know, I have one question on Outlook. When you provide the sales guidance, nine to 16%, can you help us understand, you know, what is inbuilt in that, like the number of new FDM accounts? Or is it the 23 accounts that you have, you know, that those will continue to grow? As well as like, can you talk about RTD innovation? Like, is it built into Outlook?

That's great and you know I one one question on the outlook. When you provided the sale guidance nine to 16 person can you help us understand what is in building that like number of new FDA Mccombs audited waiting three accounts that you have.

That those will continue to grow.

Well like can you talk about our D. D innovation like is it built into the into the outlook and then lost any store plants into the outlook for 'twenty for sales guidance.

Chris Mondzelewski: And then last, any store plans into the Outlook for 24 sales guidance? Thanks. Yeah, no, thanks for that question. I think, so, you know, I'll step back to 23 for a minute. I think, as we've been thinking about, you know, as you would imagine, as a management team, we're really thinking about, you know, the full kind of three-year trajectory for this business and how we want to plan things out to optimally create value, you know, over that period. 23 was an exciting year for us.

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Thanks for that question I think so yeah, I'll step back to 'twenty three for a minute I think as we've been thinking about you know as you would imagine as a management team, we're really thinking about the full kind of three year trajectory for this business and how we want to plan things out to optimally create value you know over that period.

Twenty-three was an exciting year for us it was a chance for us to prove to the market that we can really operate at scale. Our first full year in full distribution with our largest customer in the country.

Chris Mondzelewski: It was a chance for us to prove to the market, you know, that we could really operate at scale, our first full year in full distribution with the largest customer in the country. And, as we have discussed, we did exceptionally well. We're very proud of those results. So, in 24, what that gives us the opportunity to do is to really start to set up what Black Rifle looks like at full national scale.

And as we've discussed we did exceptionally well we're very proud of those results. So in 'twenty four but that gives us the opportunity to do is to really start to set up what black rifle looks like at full national scale and there's a couple of different aspects to that one is as we've talked about we're going to continue to roll our product across the country.

Chris Mondzelewski: And there are a couple of different aspects to that. One is, as we've talked about, we're going to continue to roll out our product across the country, whether you're talking about the bag coffee, the pods, or the RTD business. You know, our goal is to be in almost all retailers by the end of 25. So, that's going to be a methodical rollout for us. And we're going to consider ways to do that either internally or through partnerships. So, all options are on the table.

You're talking about the bag coffee pods or the RTD business.

Our goal is to be in almost all retailers you know by the end of 'twenty five so that's going to be a methodical rollout for us and we're going to consider ways to do that either internally or through partnerships. So all options are on the table.

For us, it's really important so even with the growth rate.

It's very important that we do this the right way, we need to build a super premium business. So as we wrote a new retailers were going to do that in a fashion, where we believe black rifle will be positioned as a super premium coffee as our first retailers have done with US. We also have to be able to deliver an exceptionally high level of service both to our.

Chris Mondzelewski: For us, it's really important. So with the growth rate, it's very important that we do this the right way. We need to build a super premium business. So as we roll out to new retailers, we're going to do that in a fashion where we believe Black Rifle will be positioned as a super premium coffee. As our first retailers have done with us, we also have to be able to deliver an exceptionally high level of service, both to our partners or customers, as well as our end consumers. We pride ourselves on that. Our NPS scores, as we've talked about, are tops in the category. We don't ever want to lose.

<unk>, our customers as well as our end consumers, we pride ourselves on that you know our NPS scores as we've talked about are tops in the category, we don't ever want to lose that.

And thirdly, we have to make money.

We need to be able to deliver value and so we're very proud of what we've been able to do to start the.

The process of increasing our expense controls as well as you know the movement on our margins themselves and so as we put our plan together, we're very proud of the growth number were significantly above the category in all segments, but it allows us to be able to do all the things I talked about and it really methodical fashion. So that we know we're not just bill.

Chris Mondzelewski: And thirdly, you know, we have to make money, you know; we need to be able to deliver value. And so we're very proud of what we've been able to do to start the process of increasing our expense controls as well as, you know, the movement on, you know, our margins themselves. And so as we put our plan together, we're very proud of the growth numbers; we're significantly above the category in all segments, but it allows us to be able to do all the things I talked about in a really methodical fashion so that we know we're not just building a business, but we're building a great business. That's great.

Adding a business, but we're building a great business.

That's great. Thank you good to see a balance of growth and profits together. Thank you.

Thanks, Ron.

Yes.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from the line of Joe After Abella with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question.

Thanks, Hey, guys good morning.

I had a couple of questions on the revenue outlook as well I guess first what what percentage of your 24 revenue are you expecting from the wholesale channel in terms of in terms of growth.

Sarang Vora: Thank you. It's good to see a balance of growth and profits together. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joe Altobello with, Please proceed with your, Thanks. Hey guys, good morning.

We didn't guide at the segment level Joe.

But significant growth within the wholesale channel that's our primary focus right now.

Joseph Nicholas Altobello: I have a couple of questions on the revenue outlook as well. First, what percentage of your $24 revenue are you expecting from the wholesale channel in terms of growth? We didn't guide at the segment level, Joe.

Okay.

Idea of what sort of same store sales might look like in that channel and how much is coming from from from new accounts.

Yeah, we haven't given that level of detail Joe.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: But significant growth within the wholesale channel is our primary focus right now. Any idea what, you know, sort of same-store sales might look like in that channel and how much is coming from new accounts? Yeah, we haven't given that level of detail, Joe. Okay, understood. Second question on the free cash flow guide, the 80% conversion of EBITDA. I guess that would imply about $22 to $32 million. Could you help us break that down between maybe net income, D&A, working capital, and cap back? um, Well, I mean, the big tail. I'll give you the high level, Joe.

Okay understood.

Second question on the free cash flow guide, 80% conversion of EBITDA, yes that would imply about 22 to 32 million could you help us break that down between maybe net income DNA.

Working capital and Capex.

Well I mean, the big tail of I'll give you the high level, Joe I mean, the big tail winds are obviously, our inventory reduction during the year. The other tailwind that we have is the barter transaction, which gives us.

Effectively cash very marketing and advertising those.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: I mean, the big tail wins are obviously our inventory reduction during the year. The other tail win that we have is the barter transaction, which gives us effectively cash-free marketing and advertising. Those would be the big tail wins.

Those would be the big tailwind.

Okay. So on inventory I thought that you said the inventory was sort of at an optimal level at this point, but we should expect another.

Reduction in inventory in 'twenty four.

Yeah, I think you'd come to expect it to come down a bit on the on the net side, but we do have some reserves in there that we put in in the final quarter. So there's a bit more of a tailwind than would show purely on the net reduction that you will see during the year.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: Okay, so on inventory, I thought that you said that inventory was sort of at an optimal level at this point, but we should expect another reduction in inventory in 24. Yeah, I think we expect it to come down a bit on the net side, but we do have some reserves in there that we put in in the final quarter, so there's a bit more of a tailwind than would show purely on the net reduction that you'll see during the year. Okay, and how much cash flow is coming from the barter transaction this year? Uh, we didn't, I don't, we didn't, it's probably about eight million dollars.

Okay.

And how much cash flow is coming from the barter transaction.

This year.

We didn't I don't we didn't it's probably about $8 million.

Okay and last one from me I apologize the other asset of $23 million is that related to the border transaction.

Yes.

Okay.

Got it thank you guys.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: Okay, and last one for me, I apologize. The other asset of $23 million, is that related to the barter transaction? Yeah. Okay. Got it.

Thanks, Joe Thanks, Joe.

Thank you.

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Joseph Nicholas Altobello: Thank you, guys. Thanks, Joe. Thank you. And as a reminder, if anyone has any questions, you may press star one on your telephone keypad to join the question and answer session. Our next question comes from the line of George Kelly with Ross MKM. Please proceed with your question. Hey, everybody.

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Okay.

Our next question comes from the line of George Kelly with Roth.

Please proceed with your question.

Hey, everybody thanks for taking my questions.

So the first one for you is on your gross margin guidance.

You listed a bunch of.

George Arthur Kelly: Thanks for taking my question. So the first one for you is on your gross margin guidance. You listed a bunch of, you know, I understand the sort of primary reason for the gross margin improvement in fiscal year 24. But you mentioned, I think, four different initiatives that you're going through that will also help benefit gross margin. And I'm curious if you could just give a little more detail. And I'm especially curious on the RTD side.

I understand that.

Sort of primary.

The reason for the gross margin improvement in fiscal year 'twenty four but you mentioned I think four different initiatives that you're going through that will also help benefit gross margin and I'm curious if you could just give a little more detail and I'm, especially curious on the RTD side.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: And with respect to RTD, do you anticipate having a significantly higher structural margin in that business now going forward? And, I don't know if there's any way to kind of quantify what RTD's gross margin is, but I would love to learn more, especially on RTD. You know, why don't I take the core question, and Mondez can add color.

And.

With respect to RGD do you anticipate having.

Significantly higher structural margin in that business now going forward.

And.

I don't know if theres any way to kind of quantify what RTD gross margin is but would love to learn more especially on the RTD side.

You know what I take the core questioning and months' can add add color.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: There are a few things impacting gross margin. On an unadjusted basis, our gross margin has been hit pretty significantly by the oversupply that we had during the year. But that goes away.

There's a few things impacting the gross margin.

On a on a.

Unadjusted basis.

Our gross margin has been hit pretty significantly by the oversupply that we had during the year that goes away.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: Second, and this is just part of being a good CPG business, is that you're always refining the supply chain. And our team is working very hard on the market on the logistics side and the manufacturing side to squeeze margin out. Those things all combined are going to give us that significant improvement. And I'll maybe hand it over to Mondze to talk about the RTD side. Yeah, no, thanks for the question.

Second is the natural shift in our total revenue into the F. D. M side of the business is high margin 40, plus.

Third and this is just part of being a good CPG business is you're always refining the supply chain and our team is working very hard on.

Market on the logistics side, and the manufacturing side to squeeze margin out.

Those things all combined are going to give us that significant improvement.

And I'll, maybe hand, it over to Mark to talk about the R&D side.

Yeah no. Thanks for the question I think.

Chris Mondzelewski: I think... You know, there's not a ton of detail I'm going to give you, but I think what I'll tell you is, I'm just going to build a little bit on what Steve said. I think what we've done is, you know, when you launch a business, and again, when you think about the last couple of years, while there have been some operational challenges with RTD, the key for us right now is that we're now sitting with four of the top 20 and six of the top 30 SKUs in the market in total, you know, coffee RTD. So, you know, we now have significant scale across the core portfolio that we have. So, as you recall, a couple of periods ago, I talked about wanting to really simplify our approach down to those six core SKUs, and, you know, we have our sales team driving hard distribution against those six core SKUs.

Yeah, there's not a ton of detail I'm going to give but I think what I'll tell you is I'm just going to build a little bit on what Steve said I think what we've done as you know when you launch a business.

And again when you think about the last couple of years, while there had been some operational challenges on our T D.

The key for US right now as we're now sitting with four of the top 20 and six of the top 30 skus in the market in total you know coffee RTD. So you know we now have significant scale across the core portfolio that we have so as you recall a couple of periods ago I talked about you know wanting to really simplify our approach down to those six core.

Skus and you know we have our sales team driving hard distribution against the six core skus, having scale in those six core Skus now allows us to go optimize the supply chain behind that so yes without going into the details.

Chris Mondzelewski: Having scale in those six core SKUs now allows us to optimize the supply chain behind that. So, you know, without going into the details, clearly, when we're moving more volume through those SKUs, that allows us for cost optimization in different ways, you know, across the different elements of the supply chain. So that's a big component of it. And then the other component, when you start to just think about total, is, you know, for me, it's all about mix, right?

You know clearly when we're moving more volume through those skus that allows us for cost optimization in different ways across the different elements of the supply chain. So that's that's a big component of it and then the other component when you start to just think about total.

It is for me, it's all about mix right, we're going to continue to push what we believe is a healthy mix for the business and we've talked in the past about how our grocery business.

Chris Mondzelewski: We're going to continue to push what we believe is a healthy mix for the business. And, you know, we've talked in the past about how our grocery business works very well in regards to that. You know, our center store coffee business is a 40 plus margin business. And, you know, as we continue to push hard on that, that is going to be a great tailwind. We're going to do the same thing within RTD as well. So I've already alluded to innovation. We're not ready to share specifics on that, but suffice to say, as we continue to expand that business in the future, we will ensure we are doing it in a manner where we are creating a positive mix for us and the ability to drive higher margins. Okay, that's helpful.

It works very well in regards to that our center store coffee business is a 40 plus margin and you know as we continue to push hard on that that is going to be a great tailwind we're going to do the same thing within RTD as well, so I've I've already alluded a bit to innovation, we're not ready to share specifics on that but suffice to say as we continue to expand that business.

In the future we will ensure we are doing it in a manner, where we are creating a positive mix for us and the ability to drive higher margin.

Okay. That's helpful. And then two last quick ones, if I could on the F. T M business.

I'm curious is there an opportunity for continued innovation, there and launching new products that well maybe helped drive sales growth at existing retail partners and then secondly.

George Arthur Kelly: And then two last quick ones if I could on the FDM business. I'm curious, is there an opportunity for continued innovation there and the launch of new products that will maybe help drive sales growth at existing retail partners? And then secondly, as you expand, I think you said everywhere by year-end 25, what's that going to do to the FDM margin? And are these smaller? I think working with distributors and some of these smaller accounts will carry a lower margin profile, but just curious if you could help with that. Thank you. Yeah, no, let me address that.

As you expand I think you said to everywhere by year end 'twenty fives, what's that going to do to the F. T. M margin and are these smaller I think working with distributors in some of these smaller accounts I'm guessing we will carry a lower margin profile, but just curious if you could help with that thank you.

Yeah, No. Let me address that I think first on the innovation piece, yes, absolutely. We will we will bring innovation every year I think it's a really critical component to competing really in any category within the consumer packaged goods space, but certainly in coffee, where consumers are always looking for new experiences.

Chris Mondzelewski: I think first on the innovation piece: yes, absolutely. We will bring innovation every year. I think it's a really critical component to competing in any category within, you know, the consumer packaged goods space, but certainly in coffee, where consumers are always looking for new experiences. So as a super premium business that has had success in our initial year and a half in the market, we're having conversations with the retailers we're in now and some of our new retailers about what we can do to help them to continue to reinvent their coffee aisles. And, you know, one of the reasons we're doing so well is that Black Rifle really, in many ways, mimics the out-of-home experience for consumers who want to have that at home.

So as a super premium business that has had success in our initial a year and a half in the market, we're having conversations with the retailers. We're in now and some of our new retailers about what we can do to help them to continue to reinvent their coffee aisle and you know one of the reasons. We're doing so well is that you know black rifle really in many ways mimics.

The out of home experience for consumers, who want to have that in home. We will continue to drive our innovation in a fashion.

Where we're able to continue to do that and we believe we can do that in a really high margin profile way and then your comment on additional customers.

Yeah, I'll tie that back to the point I made on the previous question, which is around.

Chris Mondzelewski: We will continue to drive our innovation in a fashion where we're able to continue to do that, and we believe we can do that in a really high-margin profile way. And then your comment on additional customers, which I'll tie that back to the point I made on the previous question, which is, around maintaining the profile of a super premium brand. We will roll out our distribution commensurate to being able to do that. So, you know, absolutely, you know, we're not going to allow ourselves to degrade margin. You're right.

Maintaining the profile of a super premium brand we.

We will we will roll our distribution commensurate to being able to do that so.

Absolutely you know, we're not going to allow ourselves to do great margin.

Youre right I think obviously there are different distribution components that go into smaller customers, we're going to make sure we always have.

Things set up in a way, where we can deliver strong service for those customers as well, but there's no reason in my mind as we rolled the majority of the F. D. A market that we can't maintain or even increase the margin profiles that we have now.

Chris Mondzelewski: I think, you know, obviously, there are different distribution components that go into, you know, smaller customers. We're going to make sure we always have things set up in a way where we can deliver strong service for those customers as well. But there's no reason in my mind, you know, as we roll out the majority of the FDM market, that we can't maintain or even increase the margin profiles that we have now. Thank you. Thank you.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jon Andersen with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

Hey, good morning, everybody.

I wanted to start on.

It just didn't F E M.

With your largest partner.

Just if you could give us a bit more detail on kind of where you are now in terms of filling out the assortment.

And being represented in all segments in the aisle.

You've been in there more than a year now so any color on kind of how that.

Core.

A part of the assortment there as kind of Comping now.

Jon Robert Andersen: Our next question comes from the line of Jon Andersen with William Blair. Please proceed with your question. Hey, good morning, everybody.

Now that you're you've been in there a year would be would be helpful. Thanks.

Yeah. Thanks, John.

So let me kind of start with just a quick summarization I think I mentioned Uh huh.

Chris Mondzelewski: I wanted to start with just FEM with your largest partner. If you could give us a bit more detail on kind of where you are now in terms of filling out the assortment and being represented in all the segments in the aisle. And then, you know, you've been in there more than a year now, so any call around kind of how that's..., kind of core. Part of the assortment there is kind of comping, now that you've been in there a year. would be helpful.

How proud we were of that first year and our largest customer.

We continue to build momentum as the best way to I guess summarize where we are now getting to the details of your question here in a second I think what do I mean by that well we continue to advance on a number of statistics. So a few if you look at it across the total business.

We are the number four brand now in total ground bagged coffee.

We are the number eight brand overall in total and to the point you made there are some segments. We're not represented and that's why it's a lower number when you look at total coffee versus the number one I'm sorry, the number four in total bagged. The bottom line is we're going to continue to play where we believe we as a super premium brand should be playing so there are some segments.

Chris Mondzelewski: Yeah, thanks, Jon. So, let me kind of start with just a quick summary. I think I mentioned how proud we were of that first year and our largest customer. Continuing to build momentum is the best way to, I guess, summarize where we are now. I'll get to the details of your question here in a second.

Of the market that are going to be less interesting to us. It doesn't mean that we would never rolled products out into those segments, but we would rather do is continue to compete at a higher and higher level and the segments that we believe the super premium coffee.

Chris Mondzelewski: I think. What do I mean by that? Well, we continue to advance on a number of statistics. So if you look at it, across the total business, we are the number four brand now in total ground bag coffee. We're the number eight brand overall in total. And to the point you made, there are some segments we're not represented in. And that's why it's a lower number when you look at total coffee versus the number one, I'm sorry, number four in total bagged.

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And we do have a canister business, which continues to grow we only have one SKU. There. So again I think for US you know the opportunity is going to be within some of the segments that we compete in now.

Chris Mondzelewski: The bottom line is we're going to continue to play where we believe we, as a super premium brand, should be playing. So there are some segments of the market that are going to be less interesting to us. It doesn't mean that we would never roll products out into those segments, but what we would rather do is continue to compete at a higher and higher level in the segments that we believe a super premium coffee brand should be present in. So we've been very proud of the business that we've built in pods. We're very proud of the fact that we've built, again, the strong number four bagged coffee business. And we do have a canister business, which continues to grow. But we only have one SKU there.

How do we really continue to build our share momentum there and help our retail partners to build their categories, which is something that we've been phenomenal that so far and then yes. We will continue to evaluate so an example of that would be the concentrate that we went into wear now of 13 sure.

Cold brew concentrate that's a small segment, but growing very rapidly. So obviously, we had our eye on the ball on that and we're very pleased with what we've been able to do thus far.

We'll continue to evaluate other segments in coffee as those develop as well and maybe just to add a little bit on the end of that we're seeing similar characteristics on sales and velocity as we break into the rest of the <unk> market as well.

Chris Mondzelewski: So again, I think for us, the opportunity is going to be, within some of the segments that we compete in now, how do we really continue to build our share of momentum there and help our retail partners to build their categories, which is something that we've been phenomenal at so far? And then, yes, we will continue to evaluate. So an example of that would be the concentrate that we went into. We're now a 13 share in cold brew concentrate.

And so you know the product is really resonating and as a result, the diversification of our sales on a customer basis.

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That was helpful that was gonna be by next kind of a follow up question. So I appreciate that tag on.

Chris Mondzelewski: That's a small segment but growing very rapidly. So obviously, we had our eye on the ball on that. And we're very pleased with what we've been able to do thus far. We'll continue to evaluate other segments in coffee as those develop as well. And maybe just to add a little bit on the end of that, we're seeing similar characteristics on sales and velocity as we break into the rest of the FDM market as well. And so the product is really responding. And as a result, the diversification of our sales on a customer basis will be quite significant during the course of 2024. That was helpful. That was going to be my next kind of follow-on question.

In the RTD business could you talk a little bit about.

Where you are I mean, obviously, you've made significant strides from an inventory perspective, it gets skus performing at very high levels.

In terms of top 20 top 38, you mentioned, whereas that business from a gross margin perspective.

Asking you for a absolute figure, but just <unk>.

Relative to where you think it should be down the road and what are some of the levers that you can pull.

Chris Mondzelewski: So I appreciate that tag on. In the RTD business, could you talk a little bit about where you are? I mean, obviously, you've made significant strides from an inventory perspective. You've got SKUs performing at very high levels, in terms of, you know, the top 20 and top 30, as you mentioned. Where is that business from a gross margin perspective? Not asking you for an absolute figure, but just relative to where you think it should be, you know, down the road?

Or planned to poll.

Two two.

Improve the margins in that part of the business.

Yes. Thanks.

So I'd start by saying we've made enormous strides forward. So as you think about the overall margin improvements in the business and what we have planned for 24.

RTD plays a huge role in that right. So we feel great about a lot of the improvements that we've made.

As far.

As I discussed, though you know no. We're not we're not done I mean, we're not pleased necessarily with where we are right now as a final landing spot I think one of the things. We've also discussed in previous calls the RTD operates under a different margin structure than say center store coffee you know their those categories simply compete differently. So we understand that our goal will be.

Chris Mondzelewski: And what are some of the levers that you can pull, or plan to pull, you know, to, you know, improve the margins in that part of the business? Yeah, thanks. So, I'd start by saying, you know, we've made enormous strides forward. So, as you think about the overall, you know, margin improvements in the business and what we have planned for 24, RTD plays a huge role in that, right? So, we feel great about a lot of the improvements that we've made thus far. But, as I discussed, though, you know, no, we're not, you know, we're not done. I mean, we're not necessarily pleased with where we are right now as a final landing spot. I think, you know, one of the things we've also discussed in previous calls is that RTD operates under a different margin structure than, say, center store coffee. You know, those categories simply compete differently.

As a super premium positioned brand, we believe that we should be able to.

Build a margin structure that is at the higher end of the market and so.

That is what we are working towards with that and again.

Just to reiterate and I said before there's two components to that I think we're going to continue to work on the margin profile of existing products that we have and we will consider when we think about innovation and what are some of the areas that we can go that allow us to not only operate you know first and foremost well as a brand but to continue to build that margin further.

Forward and we're looking at all components of this as we do this again, it's not just what we do alone we have a great RTD business.

You have to have partners right, we talked about our distribution partners, we've talked about our manufacturing partners and so we're always considering all of those elements as well you know what are the ways that we partner in.

Chris Mondzelewski: So, we understand that. Our goal will be, as a super premium position brand, we believe that we should be able to, you know, build a margin structure that is at the higher end of the market. And so, you know, that is what we are, you know, working towards with that. And again, just to reiterate, you know, I said before, there's two components to that.

In a way that we can really ultimately create the most overall value in the market.

For the entire supply chain and when and when you look at our a C V of around 43% for our T. D. That's kind of you know.

Stating the obvious but volume creates margin as well so we're kind of poised given the fact that we're growing significantly faster than the RTD coffee category as a whole that as we expand that ACB through to the expansion of our distribution that we're poised to to take margin in.

Chris Mondzelewski: I think we're going to continue to work on the margin profile of the existing products that we have. And we will consider, you know, when we think about innovation, what are some of the areas that we can go into that allow us to not only operate, you know, first and foremost well as a brand but to continue to build that margin further. And we're looking at all components of this as we do this. Again, it's not just what we do alone. To have a great RTD business, you have to have partners, right?

That regard as well.

Great. That's really helpful. And then as you inflect kind of free cash flow positive in 'twenty four.

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Stephen M. Kadenacy: We've talked about our distribution partners. Now, we'll talk about our manufacturing partners. And so, we're always considering all of those elements as well. You know, what are the ways that we partner in a way that we can really ultimately create the most overall value in the market, you know, for the entire supply chain? And when you look at our ACV of around 43% for RTD, that's kind of, you know, stating the obvious, but volume creates margin as well.

Yeah, we don't have significant capex during the year significantly lower because we have put the tactical pause on stores, which was the largest capital expenditure category for us.

Previously so during the year, we expect capex to be somewhere around 8 million significantly lower and Thats I would say that's more routine maintenance capex. So the cash flow the free cash flow that we expect would be.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: So, we're kind of poised, given the fact that we're growing significantly faster than the RTD coffee category as a whole, that as we expand that ACV through the expansion of our distribution, we're poised to take margin in that regard as well. Great, that's really helpful. And then as you inflect kind of free cash flow positive and 20 for any, thoughts on the kind of use of cash or just kind of capital allocation in general. Thanks. You know, we don't have significant capex during the year, significantly lower because we have put the tactical pause on stores, which was the largest capital expenditure category for us previously. So during the year, we expect CapEx to be somewhere around $8 million, significantly lower. And I would say that's more routine maintenance CapEx.

Primarily to Delever and lower interest rate until we determine in our long range plans, how to allocate that capital to growth again.

Very helpful. Thank you.

Youre welcome.

Thank you and we have reached the end of the question and answer session I'll now turn the call back over to.

CEO, Chris modulus gift for closing remarks.

Yeah. Thank you everyone.

Yeah. The piece I wanted to just mentioned on closing I think we always get at appropriately. So some wonderful questions around the financial performance of our business, but I'm going to close by just reminding folks of what I talked about in the beginning as well which is that for us it's always going to be a two pronged strategy, yes value creation is always going to be a key component of our business that's what keeps us.

Stephen M. Kadenacy: So the cash flow, the free cash flow that we expect would be primarily to de-lever and lower our interest rate until we determine in our long-range plans how to allocate that capital to growth again. Very helpful, thank you. You're welcome. Thank you, and we have reached the end of the question and answer session. I'll now turn the call over to you.

Thriving in the market, but our ability to go back and impact veteran of first responder lives is why we all do this and yeah. I'll give you. One example of that I think we did a we.

We did a veteran's day fight in November of last year with the UFC. This was at the very beginning stages of our partnership we brought an organization that is a partner of ours Hunter seven who focuses on.

Chris Mondzelewski: CEO Chris Mondzelewski will make closing remarks. Yeah, thank you, everyone. Yeah, the piece I want to just mention on closing. I think, you know, we always get some wonderful questions around, you know, the financial performance of our business. But I'm going to close by just reminding folks of what I talked about in the beginning as well, which is that for us, it's always going to be a two-pronged strategy. Yes, value creation is always going to be a key component of our business.

Cancer folk cancer victims, who have come back from conflict zones, and one night, we raised $250000.

By bringing them into that fight so it goes to show the incredible impact and the engagement in order to raise that kind of money. We had to have many many consumers and fans around the United States get involved in that and it proves to US that this is a brand proposition that people want to be involved in and if we if we do it correctly.

Chris Mondzelewski: It's what keeps us thriving in the market. But our ability to go back and impact, you know, veteran and first responder lives is why we all do this. And, you know, I'll give you one example of that.

Chris Mondzelewski: I think, you know, we did a Veterans Day fight in November of last year with the UFC. This was at the very beginning stages of our partnership. We brought in an organization that is a partner of ours, Hunter 7, who focuses on cancer victims who have come back from conflict zones. And in one night, we raised $250,000, you know, by bringing them into that fight. So it goes to show the incredible impact and the engagement. In order to raise that kind of money, we had to have many, many consumers and fans around the United States get involved. And it proves to us that, you know, this is a brand proposition that people want to be involved in. And if we do it correctly, we're going to be able to make a massive impact on, you know, a segment of our population, the veterans and first responders who absolutely need our help. So thanks, everyone, very much for your engagement and questions. We appreciate it. And this concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your line. Thank you for your participation. Thanks for watching!

We're going to be able to make a massive impact on.

Segment of our population the veterans and first responders, who absolutely need our help so.

Thanks, everyone very much for your engagement and questions. We appreciate it and everyone have a great day.

And this concludes today's conference and you may disconnect. Your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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