Q1 2024 Corning Inc Earnings Call

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Operator: Welcome to the Corning Incorporated Quarter 1 2024 earnings call. To place yourself into the Q&A queue, please push star 11. It is my pleasure to introduce to you Ann Nicholson, Vice President of Investor Relations. Thank you, and goodbye.

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It is my pleasure to introduce to you Ann Nicholson, Vice President of Investor Relations.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: Thank you and good morning everyone. Welcome to Corning's first quarter 2024 earnings call. With me today are Wendell Weeks, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Ed Schlesinger, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. I'd like to remind you that today's remarks contain forward-looking statements that fall within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These statements involve risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: Thank you and good morning, everyone. Welcome to Corning's first quarter 2024 earnings call with me today are Wendell weeks, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Ed Schlesinger Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: I'd like to remind you that today's remarks contain forward looking statements that fall within the meaning of the private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

These statements involve risks uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: These factors are detailed in the company's financial report. You should also note that we'll be discussing our consolidated results using core performance measures unless we specifically indicate our comments related to gap data. Our core performance measures are non-gap measures used by management to analyze the business. For the first quarter, the difference between GAAP and CORE EPS primarily reflected constant currency adjustment, translated earnings contract gains, and translation gains on Japanese yen-denominated debt. As a reminder, mark-to-market accounting has no impact on our cash flow.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: Factors are detailed in the company's financial reports.

You should also note that we'll be discussing our consolidated results using core performance measures unless we specifically indicate our comments relate to GAAP data. Our core performance measures are non-GAAP measures used by management to analyze the business for the first quarter. The difference between GAAP and core EPS, primarily reflecting constant currency adjustment translated earnings contract gains.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: And translation gains on Japanese yen denominated debt as a reminder, the market Mark to market accounting has no impact on our cash flow a reconciliation of core results to the comparable GAAP value can be found in the Investor Relations section of our website at Corning Dot Com you May also access core results on our website with downloadable financials in the interactive animal.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: A reconciliation of CORE results to the comparable GAAP value can be found in the investor relations section of our website at corning.com. You may also access CORE results on our website with downloadable financials in the Interactive Analyst Center. Supporting slides are being shown live on our webcast. We encourage you to follow along, and they're also available on our website for download. Now, I'll turn the call over to Wendell.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: Center supporting slides are being shown live on our webcast.

Encourage you to follow along and they're also available on our website for downloading.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: And now I'll turn the call over to Windows.

Windows: Thank you Ann.

Wendell P. Weeks: Today we announced our first quarter 2024 results. Sales were nearly $3.3 billion, and EPS was $0.38.

Windows: Good morning, everyone.

Windows: Today, we announced first quarter 2024 results.

Sales were nearly $3 3 billion and EPS was <unk> 38 cents.

Wendell P. Weeks: Year over year, gross margin grew 160 basis points to 36.8%, and free cash flow improved by $300 million. These results were at the high end of our guidance. More importantly, we're seeing encouraging signs of improving market conditions. We continue to expect that the first quarter will be the lowest quarter for the Air.

Windows: Year over year gross margin grew 160 basis points to 36, 8% and free cash flow improved by $300 million.

Speaker Change: These results were at the high end of our guidance.

Speaker Change: More importantly, we're seeing encouraging signs of improving market conditions.

Speaker Change: We continue to expect that the first quarter will be the low quarter for the year.

Wendell P. Weeks: We are executing our plans to add more than $3 billion in annualized sales within the next three years, and we already have the required capacity and capabilities in place. As a result, we're poised to deliver powerful incremental profit in cash flow and generate substantial shareholder value. Last quarter, we outlined a framework under which we expect to drive stronger returns on our existing innovation and capacity investments. And we shared our expectation that these returns will begin in 2024. The framework has three primary components. First, we believe that the first quarter will be the lowest quarter for the year.

Speaker Change: We are executing our plans to add more than $3 billion in annualized sales within the next three years and we already have the required capacity and capabilities in place.

Speaker Change: As a result.

Speaker Change: We're poised to deliver powerful incremental profit and cash flow.

Speaker Change: And generate substantial shareholder value.

Speaker Change: Last quarter.

Speaker Change: We outlined the framework under which we expect to drive stronger returns on our existing innovation and capacity investments.

Speaker Change: And we shared our expectation that these returns will begin in 2024.

Speaker Change: The framework has three primary components first we believe that the first quarter will be the lowest quarter for the year, we will improve from here.

Wendell P. Weeks: We will improve from here. Second, we expect to grow by more than $3 billion in annualized sales in the midterm, which we define as within the next three years. The outlook in each of our markets remains positive, and our market positions are quite strong. As we capture this growth, we expect to deliver powerful incrementals. We already have the required production capacity and technical capabilities in place, and the cost and capital are already reflected in our financials.

Speaker Change: Second we expect to grow by more than $3 billion in annualized sales in the mid term, which redefined as within the next two years.

Speaker Change: The outlook in each of our markets remains positive.

Speaker Change: And our market positions are quite strong.

Speaker Change: Third.

Speaker Change: As we capture this growth we expect to deliver powerful incrementals, we already have the required production capacity and technical capabilities in place and the cost and the capital are already reflected in our <unk>.

Wendell P. Weeks: This is a tremendous opportunity for our shareholders. In the three months since our last call, our confidence in these three components has only increased. We expect our sales to grow from here, and we have reflected this in our second quarter guidance. Today, I'd like to review each component of the framework and share some of the reasons why our confidence has grown. Let me begin with the first component, our expectation that quarter one will be the lowest quarter of 2024.

Speaker Change: Financials.

Speaker Change: This is a tremendous opportunity for our shareholders.

Speaker Change: Yeah.

Speaker Change: In the three months since our last call our confidence in these three components has only increased.

Speaker Change: We expect our sales to grow from here and we have reflected this in our second quarter guidance.

Speaker Change: Today I'd like to review each component of the framework and share some of the reasons why our confidence has grown.

Speaker Change: Let me begin with the first component our expectation that quarter, one will be the lowest quarter of 2024.

Wendell P. Weeks: Near term, we expect optical and display to be the biggest drivers of our improvement. In optical communications, carrier inventory drawdowns have been the primary source of our below-trend sales. Once carrier inventory starts returning to a more normal level, and our customers resume purchasing to support their deployment rates, we would expect to see our order book grow. And that's exactly what is happening.

Speaker Change: Near term, we expect optical and display to be the biggest drivers of our improvement.

Speaker Change: In optical communications carrier inventory drawdowns have been the primary source of our below trend sales.

Speaker Change: Once carrier inventory starts returning to more normal levels and our customers resume purchasing to support their deployment rates, we would expect to see our order book growth.

And that's exactly what is happening our order book grew nicely from fourth quarter levels.

Wendell P. Weeks: Our order book grew nicely from fourth-quarter levels. This and our regular conversations with large carrier customers indicate that the gap between our sales and customer deployments is moderated. As a result, we expect carrier sales to increase from first quarter levels. Additionally

Speaker Change: And our regular conversations with large carrier customers indicate that the gap between our sales and customer deployments is moderating.

Speaker Change: As a result, we expect carrier sales to increase from first quarter levels.

Wendell P. Weeks: In the enterprise portion of our optical business, we expect that our recent wins for AI data centers will translate into orders and sales during the year. In display, panel makers increased their utilization rates late in the first quarter, and we expect the higher utilization to continue into the second quarter. Driven by expected growth in retail demand resulting from the Midyear Promotion, for the full year 2024, our expectations for the retail glass market remain unchanged from our January view and consistent with industry expectations.

Speaker Change: Additionally, in the enterprise portion of our optical business, we expected a recent wins for AI data centers will translate into orders and sales during the year.

Speaker Change: In display panel makers increased their utilization rates late in the first quarter and we expect the higher utilization to continue into the second quarter driven by.

Speaker Change: By expected growth in retail demand, resulting.

Speaker Change: From mid year promotions.

Speaker Change: Yes.

Speaker Change: For the full year 2024, our expectations for the retail glass market remain unchanged from our January view and consistent with industry expectations.

Wendell P. Weeks: We anticipate relatively flat television unit volume, another year of television screen size growth and some recovery, and PC Demand. This leads to mid-single-digit percent growth in glass volume at retail versus 2023. As a result, we expect our financial performance on display to improve significantly from our first quarter run rate. Ed will share more details on that in just a few moments. Now, let's move to the second component of our framework, our expectation that we will add more than $3 billion in annualized sales within the next three years.

We anticipate relatively flat.

Speaker Change: <unk> unit volume another year of TV screen size growth and some recovery.

Speaker Change: In PC demand.

Speaker Change: This leads to mid single digit percent growth in glass volume at retail versus 2023.

Speaker Change: As a result, we expect our financial performance in display to improve significantly from our first quarter run rate.

Speaker Change: Ed will share more details on that.

Edward A. Schlesinger: And just a few moments.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Now, let's move to the second component of our framework are.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Expectation that we will add more than $3 billion in annualized sales within the next three years.

Wendell P. Weeks: Our positive outlook for each of our market opportunities results from our leadership positions and the power of the secular trend that we're addressing through innovation and close collaboration with customers. There's a lot more Corning to be had in our market.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Our positive outlook for each of our market opportunities results for my leadership positions and the power of the secular trends that we're addressing through innovation and close collaboration with customers.

Edward A. Schlesinger: There's a lot more corning.

Wendell P. Weeks: In optical communications, fiber is the ascendant technology, and we're the clear market leader. However, as I've covered in the last two calls, fiber shipments are more than 30% below trend. We fully expect that gap to close, adding more than 40% to our overall optical communication sales. In conversations with our large carrier customers during the quarter, they reinforced their commitment to increasing fiber deployments in 2024 and beyond. Additionally, we expect bead-related projects for network builds in underserved areas to add to our addressable market for the next several years. The industry expects funding approvals to begin late this year, leading to spending in 2025.

Edward A. Schlesinger: To be had and our markets.

In optical communications fiber is the ascendant technology and we are the clear market leader as I've covered in the last two calls fiber shipments are more than 30% below trend, we fully expect that gap to close adding more than 40% to our overall optical communication sales.

Edward A. Schlesinger: In conversations with our large carrier customers during the quarter they reinforced their commitment to increasing fiber deployments in 2024 and beyond.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Additionally, we expect bead related projects for network builds in under served areas to add to our addressable market for the next several years.

Edward A. Schlesinger: The industry expects funding approvals to begin late this year, leading to spending in 2025.

Wendell P. Weeks: Next, generative AI is an especially attractive opportunity for us. It creates significant demand for passive optical connectivity and strengthens our value proposition and our competitive advantage. All data centers consist of a front-end network connecting racks of CPUs.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Next generative AI is an especially attractive opportunity for us it creates significant demand for passive optical connectivity solutions and strengthens our value proposition and our competitive advantages.

Edward A. Schlesinger: All data centers consists of our front end network connecting racks of Cpus.

Wendell P. Weeks: To meet the computational demands of AI, customers are building a new fiber-rich second network to connect GPUs, which increases our market opportunities. Now we'll see this in our financials as customers begin to build large GPU clusters and adopt our latest high-density innovation. Customers want fast deployment. Our pre-connectorized structured cabling solutions offer a big installation time advantage. And GPU clusters, which pack a very large amount of computing power per rack, require smaller tensor cables, making connector size and cable diameter important requirements.

Edward A. Schlesinger: To meet the computational demands of AI customers are building, a new fiber rich second network to connect Gpus, which increases our market opportunity.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Now, we'll see this in our financials as customers begin to build large GPU clusters and adopt our latest high density innovations.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Customers want fast deployment, our pre connector is structured cabling solutions offer big installation time advantages.

Edward A. Schlesinger: And the GPU clusters, which pack a very large amount of computing power per rack require smaller denser cables, making connector size and cable diameter input requirements.

Wendell P. Weeks: To meet these high-density requirements, we've introduced new-to-the-world fiber, cable, and connectivity products. At OSC, a few weeks ago, we introduced Rocket Ribbon Cable with Flow Ribbon technology that can reduce cable diameter by 60 percent, with fibers per cable approaching 7,000. A key part of delivering this innovation is our Contour Optical Fiber, which has a 40% smaller cross-sectional area than legacy fiber.

To meet these high density requirements, we've introduced new to the world fiber cable and connectivity products at OFC, a few weeks ago, we introduced rocket ribbon cable with flow ribbon technology that can reduce cable diameter, but 60% with fibers per cable approaching 7000.

Edward A. Schlesinger: A key part of delivering this innovation is our contour optical fiber, which has a 40% smaller cross sectional area the legacy fibers.

Wendell P. Weeks: Now, our ability to integrate innovations across fiber, cable, and connectors to create end-to-end solutions is a unique competitive advantage, and we're accumulating significant customer wins for upcoming AI data centers. In our recent customer wins, our revenue is below single-digit hundreds of dollars per GPU. We believe that customer density needs, combined with our technology's superior performance, will sustain these attractive sales attach rates long term. Now, let's turn to the automotive industry. The U.S. EPA announced new multi-pollutant standards last month. They include a strong particulate emissions limit that will require gasoline particulate filter adoption on U.S. gasoline vehicles, including hybrids, as early as 2026 for model year 2027.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Now our ability to integrate innovations across fiber cable and connectors to create end to end solutions is a unique competitive advantage and we're accumulating significant customer wins for upcoming AI data center builds.

Our recent customer wins, our revenue is low single digit hundreds of dollars per GPU.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Believe the customer density needs combined with our technology is superior performance, we will sustain these attractive sales attach rates long term.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Let's turn to automotive.

The U S EPA announced new multi pollutant standards last month.

They include a strong, particularly emissions limit that will require gasoline particulate filter adoption on U S gasoline vehicles, including hybrids.

Edward A. Schlesinger: As early as 2026 for model year 2027.

Wendell P. Weeks: We are the inventors and the clear market leader in GPF, and these standards increase our environmental technology's content opportunity by two to three times per U.S. ice vehicle. This adoption offers hundreds of millions of dollars of growth for us in the U.S. alone, even in the face of BEB adoption. Keep in mind, we're also pursuing additional Corning content opportunities in the automotive industry by introducing our automotive glass solutions, which are building success and momentum and are being adopted by both ICE and BEV platforms.

Edward A. Schlesinger: We are the inventor.

Edward A. Schlesinger: And the clear market leader in GPS and these standards increase our environmental technologies content opportunity by two to three times per U S ice vehicle.

Edward A. Schlesinger: This adoption offers hundreds of millions of dollars of growth for us in the U S alone even in the face of <unk>.

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Edward A. Schlesinger: Keep in mind, we're also pursuing additional more corning content opportunities in the automotive industry, but.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Introducing our automotive glass solutions, which are building success and momentum in it.

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Wendell P. Weeks: In mobile consumer electronics, our goal is to outpace the market by increasing the content we provide for each device. Our sales have consistently outpaced the market over the last decade, and we expect that to continue to be the case going forward. We've done this by advancing the state-of-the-art for cover materials and adding more content per device. A classic Moore-Corning play.

Edward A. Schlesinger: In mobile consumer electronics, our goal is to outpace the market by increasing the content we provide for each device.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Sales have consistently outpaced the market over the last decade, and we expect that to continue to be the case going forward.

We've done this by advancing the state of the art recover materials and having more content per device a classic more according play.

Wendell P. Weeks: We have a strong innovation portfolio in support of our close collaborations with leading OEMs, and we expect to continue delivering new products that increase our value production. We expect volume growth at retail to be driven mainly by television screen size growth. In fact, in the first quarter, sales of 85-inch TVs increased by more than 50% year over year.

Edward A. Schlesinger: We have a strong innovation portfolio in support of our close collaborations with leading Oems and we expect to continue delivering new products that increase our value per device.

Edward A. Schlesinger: In display we expect volume growth at retail to be driven mainly by TV screen size growth.

Edward A. Schlesinger: In fact in the first quarter sales of 85 inch Tvs increased by more than 50% year over year.

Wendell P. Weeks: Overall, we expect to capture growth in display because we are the undisputed technology leader. Our successful development of Gen 10.5 and advanced capabilities align with the continued move to larger screen TVs produced on the lowest cost platform, for large. Finally, we continue to build entirely new product platforms to capture opportunities in new categories. Examples include automotive glass solutions to support high autonomy systems and the growing opportunity to localize U.S. solar supply. Pharmaceutical Pack

Edward A. Schlesinger: Overall, we expect to capture growth in display because we are the undisputed technology leader by a successful development of Gen 10, and a half and advanced capabilities aligned with the continued move to larger size Tvs produced on the lowest cost platforms.

Large displays.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Finally, we continue to build entirely new product platforms to capture opportunities in new categories. Examples include automotive glass solutions to support high autonomy systems, the growing opportunity to localize U S solar supply.

Edward A. Schlesinger: And pharmaceutical packaging.

Wendell P. Weeks: In sum, we expect the power of our market leadership and more Corning innovations to allow us to go faster than our market, allowing us to take advantage of our $3 billion-plus opportunity. Now I'd like to move to the third component of the framework, our expectation for powerful incrementals as we add sales. In the fourth quarter of 2022, we initiated a set of actions to restore historic productivity ratios and also to raise prices to share the impact of inflation more equitably with our customers. Since we initiated these activities, we have expanded our gross margin by 320 basis points, despite sales being down almost $400 million.

In sum, we expect the power of our market leadership positions.

Edward A. Schlesinger: And more Corning innovations to allow us to grow faster than our markets and advanced our $3 billion plus opportunity.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Now I'd like to move to the third component of the framework our expectation for powerful Incrementals as we add sales.

Edward A. Schlesinger: In the fourth quarter of 2022, we initiated a set of actions to restore historic.

Edward A. Schlesinger: <unk> ratios and also to raise price to share the impact of inflation more equitably with our customers.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Since we initiated these activities we have expanded our gross margin by 320 basis points, despite sales being down almost $400 million.

Wendell P. Weeks: Our actions have established significantly stronger profitability and cash flow, even while our P&L includes the costs and technical capabilities necessary to support $3 billion plus in additional sales. We have put processes and governance mechanisms in place to generate operating leverage as we grow. So, as I close today, here's what I'd like to leave. Our first quarter results show encouraging signs of improving market conditions. However, we continue to expect that this quarter will be the lowest quarter for the year.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Our actions have established a significantly stronger profitability and cash flow base.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Even while our P&L includes the costs and technical capabilities necessary to support $3 billion plus an additional sales.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Importantly, we have put processes and governance mechanisms in place to generate operating leverage as we grow sales.

Speaker Change: So as I close today curious what I'd like to leave you with.

Speaker Change: Our first quarter results show encouraging signs of improving market conditions.

Speaker Change: We continue to expect that this quarter will be the lowest quarter for the year.

Wendell P. Weeks: Additionally, we've established a higher profitability and cash flow base, as our markets improve. We have the opportunity to increase our annualized sales by more than $3 billion. As we capture that growth, we expect to deliver powerful incrementals. Acquired Capacity. Technical Capabilities are already in place, and the cost for Already, and our finance. Disrepresents a terrific opportunity for our shareholders. Our second quarter guidance reflects higher sales and strong incremental profit

Speaker Change: Additionally, we have established a higher profitability and cash flow base.

Finally.

Speaker Change: As our markets improve we have the opportunity to increase our annualized sales by more than $3 billion.

Speaker Change: As we capture that growth.

Speaker Change: We expect to deliver powerful incrementals because of the required capacity.

Clinical capabilities are already in place and the costs are already.

In our financials.

Speaker Change: This represents a terrific opportunity for our shareholders.

Speaker Change: Our second quarter guidance reflects higher sales.

Speaker Change: And strong incremental profit.

Wendell P. Weeks: And you'll hear more about this from Ed. We will continue making progress on this opportunity. Think of us as continuing to march on.

And Youll hear more about this from head.

Head: We will continue making progress on this opportunity in 2024.

Head: Each of US has continually to my job.

Wendell P. Weeks: I look forward to updating you at investor conferences in the next few months. Now, before I turn the call over to Ed, I'd like to take a moment to recognize Jeff Evenson, Executive Vice President and Chief Strategy Officer, who will retire at the end of May. I want to thank Jeff for his 13 years of outstanding leadership in our company. During his tenure, he's helped grow the company, develop frameworks that define our priorities and guide our actions, and raise awareness of glass as a key enabling material. He has also increased Corning's focus on sustainability. Jeff, we wish you the very best. With that, I'll turn things over to Ed.

Head: I look forward to updating you at investor conferences in the next few months.

Speaker Change: Now before I turn the call over to Ed I'd like to take a moment to recognize Jeff Evenson Executive Vice President and Chief strategy Officer, who will retire from Coty at the end of May.

I want to thank Jeff for his 13 years of outstanding leadership at our company.

Edward A. Schlesinger: During his tenure he has helped grow the company developed frameworks that define our priorities and guide our actions and raised awareness of glass as a key enabling materials.

Speaker Change: He also increased corning's focus on sustainability Jeff.

Speaker Change: Wish you the very best.

Speaker Change: With that I'll turn things over to Ed.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Thank you, Wendell, and good morning, everyone. Our first quarter sales were $3.26 billion, and EPS was $0.38, at the high end of our guidance. Our actions to increase price and improve productivity ratios are paying off. In the first quarter, despite lower year-over-year sales, we grew gross margin by 160 basis points.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Thank you Wendell and good morning, everyone.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Our first quarter sales were $3 to $6 billion and EPS was <unk> 38.

At the high end of our guidance.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Our actions to increase price and improved productivity ratios are paying off in the first quarter. Despite lower year over year sales. We grew gross margin by 160 basis points. We also grew free cash flow by more than $300 million versus the first quarter of 2020.

Edward A. Schlesinger: We also grew free cash flow by more than $300 million versus the first quarter of 2023. Overall, we have established a significantly stronger profitability and cash flow base, and we expect to grow from first quarter levels. In the second quarter, we expect sales of approximately $3.4 billion, with strong incremental profit and EPS in the range of 42 to 46 cents. Now, let's take a closer look at our segment results. In optical communications, sales for the first quarter were $930 million, down 17% year-over-year, reflecting temporarily lower carrier demand as customers continued to draw down inventory. Net income for the quarter was $100 million, down 37%, year-over-year, reflecting the lower volume.

Ed Schlesinger: Three.

Ed Schlesinger: Overall, we have established a significantly stronger profitability and cash flow base and we expect to grow from first quarter levels in the second quarter, we expect sales of approximately $3 $4 billion with strong incremental profit and.

Ed Schlesinger: And EPS in the range of 42 to 46 cents.

Let's take a closer look at our segment results.

Ed Schlesinger: In optical communications sales for the first quarter were $930 million down 17% year over year, reflecting temporarily lower carrier demand as customers continued to draw down inventory net income for the quarter was $100 million down 30.

Ed Schlesinger: 7% year over year, reflecting the lower volume.

Edward A. Schlesinger: We're seeing clear signs of improving market conditions, and we think Q1 represents an inflection point. Sequentially, sales grew in both Carrier and Enterprise in the first quarter, which is more favorable than normal seasonality. And our order rates are steadily increasing as some of our Carrier customers are reaching the end of their inventory drawdown. We believe we're well-positioned to take advantage of the industry's long-term growth drivers, specifically broadband, 5G, cloud computing, and AI. We will also benefit from public infrastructure investments to help connect the unconnected and bring broadband to a much larger share of the U.S. population.

Ed Schlesinger: We are seeing clear signs of improving market conditions, and we think Q1 represents an inflection point sequentially.

Ed Schlesinger: Sequentially sales grew in both carrier and enterprise in the first quarter, which is more favorable than normal seasonality and our order rates are steadily increasing as some of our carrier customers are reaching the end of their inventory drawdowns.

Ed Schlesinger: We believe we're well positioned to take advantage of the industry's long term growth drivers, specifically broadband five G cloud computing and AI.

Ed Schlesinger: We will also benefit from public infrastructure investments to help connect the unconnected and bring broadband to a much larger share of the U S population.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Moving to display technology, as we shared with you in January, panel makers reduced their utilization levels in the fourth quarter in response to a softer retail selling trend. Additionally, as expected, panel makers' utilization levels remained low in the first quarter to align supply to demand.

Ed Schlesinger: Moving to display technologies as.

Ed Schlesinger: As we shared with you in January panel makers reduced their utilization levels in the fourth quarter in response to a softer retail selling season.

Ed Schlesinger: Additionally, as expected panel makers utilization levels remained low in the first quarter to align supply to demand.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Our first quarter sales were $872 million, up 14% year-over-year, and net income was $201 million, up 26% year-over-year. The increase in net income was primarily driven by higher volume and pricing actions taken in the second half of 2023. The first quarter glass price was consistent with the fourth quarter of 2023, as expected. Now, it's worth noting that first quarter net income was negatively impacted by our decision to reduce our production to align with the lower volume we experienced in the fourth and first quarters.

Ed Schlesinger: Our first quarter sales were $872 million up 14% year over year.

Ed Schlesinger: And net income was $201 million up 26% year over year. The increase in net income was primarily driven by higher volume and pricing actions taken in the second half of 2023.

Ed Schlesinger: First quarter glass price was consistent with the fourth quarter of 2023 as expected.

Ed Schlesinger: Now it's worth noting that first quarter net income was negatively impacted by our decision to reduce our production to align to the lower volume we experienced in the fourth and first quarters, our profitability will be higher in the second quarter.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Our profitability will be higher in the second quarter. Looking ahead to the second quarter, we expect panel makers to run at higher utilization rates, driven by growth in retail demand resulting from mid-year promotions, and we will return our production volume to more normal levels. We expect the second quarter glass market and hour volume to increase sequentially as a result of higher panel maker utilization, and we expect glass prices to be consistent with the first. For the full year, our expectations for the retail market remain unchanged from our January view and are consistent with industry expectations.

Ed Schlesinger: Looking ahead to the second quarter, we expect panel makers to run at higher utilization rates driven by growth in retail demand, resulting from mid year promotions and we will return our production volume to more normal levels.

Ed Schlesinger: We expect the second quarter glass market.

Ed Schlesinger: And our volume to increase sequentially as a result of higher panel maker utilization and we expect glass price to be consistent with the first quarter.

For the full year, our expectations for the retail market remain unchanged from our January view and are consistent with industry expectations, specifically, we anticipate relatively flat TV unit volume another year of TV screen size growth and some recovery in PC demand.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Specifically, we anticipate relatively flat television unit volume, another year of TV screen size growth, and some recovery in PC demand. This adds mid single-digit percent growth in glass volume at retail versus 2023. Overall, we expect the pricing environment to remain favorable. Before I move on, I want to take a minute to address currency exchange rates. As a reminder, we have actively hedged our foreign currency exposure over the past decade. This serves as an effective tool to reduce earnings volatility, protect our cash flow, enhance our ability to invest, and protect shareholder returns.

Ed Schlesinger: This adds mid single digit percent growth in glass volume at retail versus 2023 overall, we expect the pricing environment to remain favorable.

Ed Schlesinger: Before I move on I want to take a minute to address currency exchange rates.

Ed Schlesinger: As a reminder, we have actively hedge our foreign currency exposure over the past decade. This serves as an effective tool to reduce earnings volatility protect our cash flow enhance our ability to invest and protect shareholder returns. We're very pleased with our hedging program and the economic certainty it provides and we've.

Edward A. Schlesinger: We're very pleased with our hedging program and the economic certainty it provides, and we've received more than $2.5 billion in cash under our hedge contracts since their inception. Our most significant hedge contracts are for the Japanese yen, which support our yen core rate of 107 through the end of 2024. As we look beyond 2024, our goal is to maintain an appropriate return on our display business through a combination of currency hedges and industrial solutions like pricing.

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Ed Schlesinger: Our most significant hedge contracts are for the Japanese yen, which support our yen core rate of 107 through the end of 2024.

Ed Schlesinger: As we look beyond 2024, our goal is to maintain an appropriate return on our display business through a combination of currency hedges and industrial solutions like price increases.

Edward A. Schlesinger: First, on hedging, we are actively working to improve our hedge coverage for 2025 and into the future. The yen forward curve works in our favor, so if you go out a year, the forward rate is about 8 yen stronger than today's spot rate. Out two years, it's approximately 14, and so on. The current yen spot rate is significantly weaker than the 30-year average of approximately $100,000.

Ed Schlesinger: First on hedging we are actively working to improve our hedge coverage for 2025 and into the future.

Ed Schlesinger: The yen forward curve works in our favor. So if you go out a year. The forward rate is about <unk> and stronger than today's spot rate. Our two years, it's approximately 14 and so on the current yen spot rate is significantly weaker than the 30 year average of approximately 110 yet.

Edward A. Schlesinger: We have made some progress on our hedges and are now partially hedged for 2025, and we'll continue to look for attractive opportunities to increase our hedges. Second, our customers sell panels in U.S. dollars, and they buy glass from us in yen. Hence, they are benefiting from the current weak yen.

Ed Schlesinger: We have made some progress on our hedges and are now partially hedged for 2025, and we will continue to look for attractive opportunities to increase our hedges.

Ed Schlesinger: Second our customer sell panels in U S dollars and they buy glass from us in yet.

Ed Schlesinger: They are benefiting from the current weak yen rate, we plan to share the economics more appropriately with our customers by raising glass prices in yet.

Edward A. Schlesinger: We plan to share the economics more appropriately with our customers by raising glass prices in yen. We successfully took a first step in this direction in the second half of 2023. We will continue to keep you updated as we make progress.

Ed Schlesinger: We successfully took a first step in this direction in the second half of 2023.

Ed Schlesinger: We will continue to keep you updated as we make progress.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Moving to specialty materials, sales in the first quarter were $454 million, up 12% year over year, driven by strong demand for our premium smartphone cover material, as well as semiconductor-related products. Net income was $44 million, up 13% year-over-year, driven by higher bonds. Our more Corning approach will continue to help us win as handheld and IT markets recover. Additionally, over time, we anticipate growth from new innovations such as bendable glass and augmented reality as they are adopted more broadly.

Ed Schlesinger: Moving to specialty materials sales in the first quarter were $454 million up 12% year over year, driven by strong demand for our premium smartphone cover materials as well as semiconductor related products.

Ed Schlesinger: Net income was $44 million up 13% year over year, driven by higher volume.

Ed Schlesinger: Our more Corning approach will continue to help us win as handheld and it markets recover. Additionally, overtime, we anticipate growth from new innovations such as Bendable glass and augmented reality as they are adopted more broadly.

Edward A. Schlesinger: In environmental technologies, first quarter sales were $455 million, up 6% year over year, driven by increased GPF adoption in China, which more than offset a decline in heavy duty diesel in North America, an impact we expect to continue through 2024. Net income was $105 million, up 28% year-over-year, driven by higher volume and improved operations in Life Sciences. Sales in the first quarter were $236 million, down 8% versus the first quarter of 2023, as customers in North America and Europe continue to draw down their income.

Ed Schlesinger: Environmental Technologies' first quarter sales were $455 million up 6% year over year, driven by increased GPS adoption in China, which more than offset a decline in heavy duty diesel in North America and impact we expect to continue through 2002.

Ed Schlesinger: 24 <unk>.

Ed Schlesinger: Net income was $105 million up 28% year over year, driven by higher volume.

Ed Schlesinger: And improved operating performance.

Ed Schlesinger: In life Sciences sales in the first quarter were $236 million down 8% versus the first quarter of 2023 as customers in North America, and Europe continue to draw down their inventory net.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Net income was $13 million, up 44% year-over-year, reflecting improved productivity. Turning to Hemlock and emerging growth businesses, sales in the first quarter were $311 million, down 19% year-over-year, reflecting lower pricing for solar-grade polysilicon and lower sales in pharmaceutical technologies from the completion of volume commitments for COVID-related products.

Ed Schlesinger: Net income was $13 million up 44% year over year, reflecting improved productivity.

Ed Schlesinger: Turning to hemlock and emerging growth businesses sales in the first quarter were $311 million down 19% year over year, reflecting lower pricing for solar grade polysilicon and lower sales in pharmaceutical technologies from the completion of volume commitments for Covid related products.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Now let's turn to our Outlook. Last quarter, we shared our expectation that the first quarter would be the lowest quarter of the year, and we're even more confident that that is the case. In the second quarter, we expect sales to grow sequentially to approximately $3.4 billion with strong incremental profits and EPS in the range of 42 to 46 cents. We also anticipate free cash flow to grow sequentially by approximately $300 million in the second quarter, and we expect CapEx of approximately $1.2 billion for the year.

Ed Schlesinger: Now, let's turn to our outlook last quarter, we shared our expectation that the first quarter would be the low quarter of the year and we're even more confident that that is the case in the second quarter, we expect sales to grow sequentially to approximately $3 4 billion with strong incremental.

Ed Schlesinger: Profit and EPS in the range of 42 to 46 cents. We also anticipate free cash flow to grow sequentially by approximately $300 million in the second quarter, and we expect capex of approximately $1 2 billion.

Ed Schlesinger: For the year.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Wendell outlined our framework to drive strong returns on our existing innovation and capacity investment and shared our expectations for powerful incremental profit and cash flow. Given this opportunity, we've begun to think about our approach to the allocation of that cash going forward. As a reminder, we prioritize investing for organic growth. And as we've shared today, in the midterm, we have the capabilities and capacity in place to add more than $3 billion in annualized sales with minimal cash investment.

Ed Schlesinger: Wendell outlined our framework to drive strong returns on our existing innovation and capacity investments and shared our expectations for powerful incremental profit and cash flow.

Ed Schlesinger: Given this opportunity we've begun to think about our approach to the allocation of that cash going forward.

Ed Schlesinger: As a reminder, we prioritize investing for organic growth opportunities.

Ed Schlesinger: And as we've shared today in the midterm, we have the capabilities and capacity in place to add more than $3 billion in annualized sales with minimal cash investment.

Edward A. Schlesinger: You can see that reflected in our CapEx expectations for 2024. This contributes to the strong free cash flow we expect to generate. Additionally, we maintain a strong and efficient balance sheet, and we're in great shape. We have one of the longest debt tenors in the S&P 500. Our current average debt maturity is about 23 years, with about only $1 billion in debt coming due over the next five years. And we have no significant debt coming due in any given year.

Ed Schlesinger: You can see that reflected in our capex expectations for 2024.

Ed Schlesinger: This contributes to the strong free cash flow, we expect to generate additionally.

Ed Schlesinger: Additionally, we maintain a strong inefficient balance sheet and we're in great shape, we have one of the longest debt centers in the S&P 500, our current average debt maturity is about 23 years with about only $1 billion in debt coming due over the next five years and we have no <unk>.

Ed Schlesinger: Significant debt due coming due in any given year.

Edward A. Schlesinger: So, as our cash flow increases... We remain committed to providing returns to our shareholders. We have grown our dividend by 40% since 2019, and our dividend yield is in the top quartile of the S&P 500. And we will continue to be opportunistic on Sherry. I look forward to sharing more in the coming months as we continue to make progress building a solid foundation for durable, profitable, long-term growth. Now I'll turn things back over to Ann.

Ed Schlesinger: So as our cash flow increases we remain committed to providing returns to our shareholders. We have grown our dividend, 40% since 2019, and our dividend yield is top quartile in the S&P 500, and we will continue to be opportunistic on shore.

Ed Schlesinger: Share repurchases.

Ed Schlesinger: I look forward to sharing more in the coming months as we continue to make progress building a solid foundation for durable profitable long term growth.

Ed Schlesinger: Now I'll turn things back over to Ann Great. Thank you and we are ready for our first question.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: Great. Thank you, Ed. We're ready for our first question.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, please press star 11 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 11 again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from the line of Wamsi Mohan with Bank of America. Your line is now open.

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Ann H. S. Nicholson: Okay.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: Our first question comes from the line of <unk> Mohan with Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Wamsi Mohan: Yes, thank you so much. If I could, one for Wendell and one for Ed.

Wamsi Mohan: Yes. Thank you so much if I could one for Wendell one for Ed.

Wamsi Mohan: Wendell, on the commentary around the data center opportunity around AI, I was wondering if you could just share some color on when you think these incremental orders and revenue will flow into Corning and these hundreds of low hundreds of dollars per GPU. Can you just break that down into maybe just a little bit more color on where exactly that's coming from? Is this rack-to-rack connections in the optical and data center? And how long do you think the time for that is? And I will follow up for Ed.

Wamsi Mohan: Wendell on on the commentary around the data center opportunity.

Mohan: Around AI was wondering if you could just share some color on when you think these incremental orders.

Wamsi Mohan: And revenue will flow into Corning and these hundreds of low hundreds of dollars per GPU can you just break that down into maybe maybe just a little bit more color on where exactly that's coming from is this rack direct connections in optical and data center and how large.

Speaker Change: Do you think the Tam for that is and I have a follow up for etsy.

Wendell P. Weeks: So the timing of when we'll start to see it in our financials. So we start with a pretty large business, and Enterprise, all related to the sort of front end. Think about it as a foreman, which is all connecting. So off over that base, you'll start to see sort of relatively robust revenue growth, assuming the orders that we've closed here all ship in the back half of this year. You're going to start to see that momentum begin to build. Where does it come from?

Wamsi Mohan: Oh.

Speaker Change: So the timing of when we'll start to see it in our financials.

Speaker Change: So we start with a pretty large business.

Speaker Change: Enterprise all related to the sort of front end.

Speaker Change: Do you think about it as a front end network, which is all connecting the Cpus.

Wamsi Mohan: Sure.

Wamsi Mohan: So off over that base, you'll start to see sort of relatively robust revenue growth assuming the orders that we've closed here.

Wamsi Mohan: Our ship.

Wamsi Mohan: In the back half of this year.

Wamsi Mohan: Going to start to see that momentum begin to build.

Speaker Change: Where does it come from.

Wendell P. Weeks: Well, the simplest way to think about this is let's just start at the rack level. A typical front-end rack filled with CPUs has about 32 fibers that sort of come into that top of the rack switch. 16 ports, two fibers per port. There are different ways to do it.

Speaker Change: The simplest way to think about this as let's just start at the rack level.

Speaker Change: A typical front end rack.

Speaker Change: Filled with Cpus has about 32 fibers sort of.

Speaker Change: Come into that top of the rack switch right <unk>.

Speaker Change: <unk> puds to $5 per foot.

Wendell P. Weeks: But assuming one of these backend network GPU racks will tend to have on the order of a couple of H100 servers, to service those, you need more like 256 fibers on that same rack. So you've got about an eight times increase in bandwidth.

Speaker Change: There's different ways to do it but assuming one of these back end network GPU.

Speaker Change: <unk> will tend to have on the order of a couple of H 100 servers to service those.

Speaker Change: Need more like 256 fibers.

Speaker Change: That same rack, so you've got about an eight times.

Wendell P. Weeks: Increase in the amount of fibers per rack. This is what leads to the demand for us to do more Corning innovation. How do you fit?

Speaker Change: Increase in the amount of fiber as per rack.

Speaker Change: So.

Speaker Change: This is what leads to the demand for us to do a more Corning innovation, how do you fit.

Wendell P. Weeks: And that's why all of our new product innovation, what we've been working on the last few years, is aimed at that. So as you start to see those large cluster GPU installations begin is when you should start to see it, in our numbers. Wamsi, did that answer your question?

Speaker Change: <unk> eight times as many light pipes into fundamentally the same area.

Speaker Change: That's why you see all of our new product innovation and what we've been working on it.

Speaker Change: Last few years is aimed at that.

Speaker Change: So as you start to see those large cluster.

Speaker Change: <unk> installations peak in is when you should start to see it.

Speaker Change: And our numbers <unk> was that.

Wendell P. Weeks: Yeah, I did. I wonder, Wendell, if you might also comment on the B100, which seems to be a much higher density solution than the H100, and the need for bandwidth is probably an order of magnitude higher between racks.

Speaker Change: Did that answer your question.

Speaker Change: Yes that I Wonder Wendell if you might also comment on the B 100, which seems to be a much more higher density solution than the eight 100 and the need for bandwidth probably order of magnitude higher between racks.

Wendell P. Weeks: So that is a great observation, and it is in line with the sort of secular trend that we see that basically says we have plenty of innovation left to get done because density continues to increase, as well as bandwidth requirements. And so what that does is it reduces the amount of distance with which you can travel in an electric vehicle and therefore pushes the photons closer and closer, sort of the beachfront of those GPUs, which is opening up an entire new set of categories for us, for our flat glass, for our ability to couple light into various formats. So in a way, what you're doing is, in a way, what you're doing is, Describing is what's leading to a whole new family of innovation upon which we are working.

Speaker Change: Yes.

Speaker Change: <unk>.

Wendell P. Weeks: That is a great observation and it is in line with the sort of secular trend that we see.

Wendell P. Weeks: That basically says we have plenty of innovation left.

Wendell P. Weeks: To get done.

Wendell P. Weeks: Because density continues to increase.

Wendell P. Weeks: As well as the bandwidth requirements increase and so what that does is.

Wendell P. Weeks: Is it reduces the amount of distance with which you can travel in an electron.

Wendell P. Weeks: And therefore pushes the photons closer and closer.

Wendell P. Weeks: The beachfront of those Gpus.

Wendell P. Weeks: Which is opening up an entire new set of categories for us.

Wendell P. Weeks: Black glass.

Wendell P. Weeks: Four our ability to couple light into various formats and so in a way where you are.

Wendell P. Weeks: Describing is.

Wendell P. Weeks: What's leading to a whole new family of innovations upon which we are working diligently biopsy.

Wamsi Mohan: Okay. Thank you, Wendell. I appreciate the answer. And maybe quickly for Ed.

Speaker Change: Okay. Thank you I know I appreciate the answer and maybe quickly for Ed.

Edward A. Schlesinger: I appreciate the yen commentary here as we look into 2025. There seem to be a lot of moving pieces for display between the yen rate and the pricing you alluded to. How large is the partial hedge, or where do you expect to exit as you exit this year? Where do you think you will be hedged for 2025? What do you think is the sort of, you know, core rate that if we were to shift next year to a different core rate, where would you think that would be using all the tools that you have?

Speaker Change: I appreciate the commentary here as we look into 2025 and there seem to be a lot of moving pieces for display between generated enterprising you alluded to.

Speaker Change: How large is the partial hedge or where do you expect to.

Edward A. Schlesinger: As you exit this year.

Speaker Change: Where do you think you will be hedged for 2025.

Speaker Change: What what do you think is the sort of.

Speaker Change: All right.

Speaker Change: If we were to shift next year to a different core rate.

Speaker Change: What do you think that would be using all the tools that you have and if you could perhaps just roll it up at the high level, including the price changes that you spoke about how should we think about display at sort of the topline level given given all these.

Edward A. Schlesinger: And if you could perhaps just roll it up at the high level, including the price changes that you spoke about, how should we think about display at sort of the top line level, given all these different changes? Yeah, thanks.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Thanks for the question Wamsi, and I understand the desire to have all that information. I think the simplest way to think about it is that we are committed to generating an appropriate return in this business, and we think we will do that in 2024. We did that in 2023, and our goal is to get the economics to be similar as we go forward, regardless of where the yen winds up and you know where we are able to hedge.

Speaker Change: Different changes.

Speaker Change: Yes. Thanks for the question <unk> I understand the desire to have all that information.

Speaker Change: Nick.

Speaker Change: Simplest way to think about it is we.

Speaker Change: Our committed to generating an appropriate return in this business and we think we will do that in 2024, we did that in 2023 and our goal is to get the economics to be similar as we go forward, regardless of where the yen winds up and where we are able to hedge will be.

Edward A. Schlesinger: We'll be, you know, we're good at hedging, we've got a long-standing program, we will look for attractive opportunities to build our 2025 hedge portfolio, and if the yen breaks our way, we'll go out beyond that. I think it's too early to talk about core rates or that kind of discussion, but I think you should just think about our display economics that we'll deliver in 2024 as being the way to think about our display business.

Speaker Change: Good at hedging we've got a long standing program, we will look for attractive opportunities to build our 2025 hedged portfolio and if the yen breaks our way we will go out beyond that.

Speaker Change: I think it's too early to talk about core read or that kind of discussion, but I think you should just think about our display economics that will deliver in 2024 as being a way to think about our display business. So we will raise price to offset the impact of the yen and the net of those two.

Edward A. Schlesinger: So we'll raise the price to offset the impact of the yen, and the net of those two things gets you to the same place. That's the way we're thinking about it; we've made some nice progress on hedging, and we'll continue to keep you updated as we go. I think that's the way you all should think about it, too.

Speaker Change: Things get you to the same place. So that's the way we're thinking about it we've made some nice progress on hedging and we will continue to keep you updated as we go.

Speaker Change: I think that's that's the way you all should think about it.

Operator: Operator, we're ready for our next question.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Okay. Thank you Ed.

Speaker Change: Operator, we're ready for our next question.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Meta Marshall with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Speaker Change: Our next question comes from the line of meta Marshall with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Meta A. Marshall: Great, thanks. Maybe a question for me, you know. You noted that you have the capacity kind of today with the capital you've already built to have $3 billion of additional revenue, yet you noted that you expect to kind of grow over the next three years by more than that $3 billion. And so just trying to get a sense of where you think that the biggest opportunities or investments will be over the next couple of years.

Meta A. Marshall: Okay, great. Thanks.

Meta A. Marshall: Maybe a question for me.

Meta A. Marshall: Did that.

Meta A. Marshall: You have the capacity today with capital if you're already belt to have $3 billion of additional revenue.

Meta A. Marshall: That you expect to kind of grow over the next three years by more than that $3 billion.

Meta A. Marshall: Just trying to get a sense of where you think that the biggest opportunity is our investments will be over the next couple of years.

Meta A. Marshall: And then maybe a second question. You know, there's been, obviously, a lot made of bead timing and understanding that you're seeing kind of improving demand trends on service providers as they come out of inventory digestion, but just kind of what your latest thoughts are around bead timing as an enhancement to the optical business. Thanks.

Speaker Change: And then maybe a second question.

Speaker Change: It's been.

Speaker Change: A lot made of the timing.

Speaker Change: And understanding that youre seeing kind of improving demand trends on service provider as they come out of inventory digestion, but just kind of what your latest thoughts are around kind of bead.

Speaker Change: Timing as an enhancement to the optical business. Thanks.

Wendell P. Weeks: Start with the second one and then maybe you can discuss the first. So on bead timing, we tend to be relatively conservative in our Outlook of How Effective is the Government and allocating resources to build. We're in strong support of this. It requires U.S. content.

Speaker Change: I'll start with the second one and then maybe you can discuss the first.

Speaker Change: And the timing.

Speaker Change: We tend to be relatively conservative.

Speaker Change: In our outlook.

Speaker Change: Of how effect.

Speaker Change: The government can be and allocating resources to build networks.

Speaker Change: We are in strong support of this requires U S content.

Wendell P. Weeks: And we think it's aimed well, and it will be done. The funds have been allocated. But the process, we would tend to be a little... Our expectations will be a little slower than what you see as the industry overall. We think they'll get allocated this year, and you won't really start to see spending until... next year. That's our current point of view meeting. Does that answer your question?

Speaker Change: And we think it's aimed well and it will be done.

Speaker Change: The funds have been allocated.

Speaker Change: But the process, we would tend to be a little.

Speaker Change: Our expectations would be a little slower than what you see as the industry overall.

Speaker Change: I think they'll get allocated this year and you won't really start to see spending until.

Speaker Change: Next year, that's all occurred.

Speaker Change: Places you read it does that answer your question.

Wendell P. Weeks: Yeah, that's helpful. Yeah, Mita, on your other question...

Speaker Change: Yeah, that's helpful. Okay.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Yeah, Meta, on your other question, you know, first I would start with we actually have the capacity to do, you know, much more than three billion dollars in sales. I think we're framing it up as we see it.

Speaker Change: You had me to on your on your other question. So first I would start with we actually have capacity to do.

Speaker Change: Much more than $3 billion in sales I think we're framing it up as we see it.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Where those sales come from, where those opportunities come from, will depend on, you know, whether we need to add, you know, anything, beyond what we have in place today, but we feel very confident in supporting a number well above three billion. You know, there are certainly a few places where we might spend a little money, but it's all encapsulated in the CapEx guide we gave for 2024, and we ramped our capital spend down in the back half of 2023, so sitting here today, I don't see any need for a significant amount of capital.

Speaker Change: Where those sales come from where those opportunities come from will depend on whether we need to add anything beyond what we have in place today, but we feel very confident and supporting a number well above 3 billion. There are certainly a few places where we might spend a little money, but its all and capsulate. It in the Capex guide.

Speaker Change: For 2024, and we ramped our capital spend down in the back half of 2023, so sitting here today I don't see any need for significant amount of capital a good example might be as we build out our auto glass business and we continue to win there we might need to spend a little bit, but not the kind of capital.

Edward A. Schlesinger: A good example might be as we build out our auto glass business, and we continue to win there, we might need to spend a little bit, but not the kind of capital you're used to when you build, like, melting capacity for glass more on the finishing side. So I think our goal is to generate a significant amount of cash flow off of the existing capacity we have.

Speaker Change: We're used to when you build like melting capacity for glass more on the finishing side so.

Speaker Change: We our goal is to generate a significant amount of cash flow off of the existing capacity we have in place.

Speaker Change: Great. Thank you.

Speaker Change: Next question.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Martin Yang with Oppenheimer. Your line is now open.

Speaker Change: Our next question comes from the line of Martin Yang with Oppenheimer. Your line is now open.

Zhihua Yang: Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my question.

Speaker Change: Yes.

Zhihua Yang: Hi, Good morning. Thank you for taking my question I would like to ask.

Wendell P. Weeks: I would like to ask you about the newly announced subsidy programs for home appliance trading in China. I know your retail estimates on TV sales this year haven't changed. Do you think this could be a new catalyst to drive upside to the retail TV market and your glass volume in 24?

Zhihua Yang: About your opinion regarding.

Zhihua Yang: Newly announced.

Zhihua Yang: Subsidy programs for.

Zhihua Yang: Home appliance trading in China.

Zhihua Yang: I know your retail estimates on television sales this year Hasnt changed.

Zhihua Yang: Do you think this could be a new catalyst to drive.

Zhihua Yang: Upside to retail TV market and Europe glass volume in 'twenty four.

Wendell P. Weeks: That's a great question, but they're relatively recent, and we're still in the midst of trying to understand how that will play out when it hits the consumer. Our expectations have been for Chinese retail demand to be relatively muted this year. You're right to point it out. We're just a little early in being able to analyze and predict what its impact will be. We'll get back to you on that, as per our understanding

Speaker Change: That's a great question, but they are relatively recent and we're still in the midst of.

Zhihua Yang: Trying to understand how that will play out when it hits the consumer.

Zhihua Yang: Our expectations have been for China retail demand to be relatively muted this year.

Zhihua Yang: Youre right to pointed out we're just a little early and being able to analyze.

Speaker Change: And predict what its impact will be we will get back to you on that.

Zhihua Yang: Got it. Thank you so much.

Zhihua Yang: Our understanding evolves.

Speaker Change: Got it.

Speaker Change: Thank you so much.

Operator: Next question.

Speaker Change: Thanks Mark.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Samik Chatterjee with J.P. Morgan. Your line is now open.

Speaker Change: Next question.

Speaker Change: Our next question comes from the line of Sumit chatter with Jpmorgan. Your line is now open.

Samik Chatterjee: Hi. Thank you for taking my question. Maybe to sort of ask you another one on display, just a bit longer term. I know you have a strong position in the display market with the display class. But traditionally or historically, the problem with this market has been the short-cycle nature of the swings and the volume cycle. When you think about the duration of this current cycle, do you think about it any differently?

Samik Chatterjee: Oh, hi, Thank you for taking my question.

Samik Chatterjee: Maybe to sort of ask you another one on display.

Samik Chatterjee: A bit more longer term I know you have a strong position in the display market with the display Clos, but.

Samik Chatterjee: Traditionally or historically the problem with this market has been the short cycle nature of the swings in the volume cycle. When you think about the duration of this current cycle, you're thinking about it any differently.

Samik Chatterjee: How does the cycle track relative to some of the sort of volatility we've seen in the past? And then, more near term, I know you mentioned you're expecting a step-up in terms of industry volume into 2Q. But any more color there? Because that does seem like 1Q panel maker utilization. Thank you.

Samik Chatterjee: Does the cycle track relative to some of the sort of volatility we've seen.

Samik Chatterjee: And the boss and then a bit more.

Samik Chatterjee: Tom I know you mentioned, you're expecting a step up in terms of industry volume into Q, but any more color there because it does seem like <unk> panel maker utilization improve.

Wendell P. Weeks: Wait, that's a, let me take the first question. That is a wonderful deep question, Samik, on the first, mainly because the locus of panel manufacturing has begun to shift from Korea-Taiwan into China, and that high concentration has begun to lead to some sort of different behavior between set makers and panel makers. One of the things that led to the, you know, sort of classic crystal cycles is that A, you had a very strongly growing market, which meant predicting how much capacity you would need was challenging because you had to get than the second one. [inaudible] Set makers would tend to have very strong back-half demand.

Samik Chatterjee: Late in the quarter more than you expected so how you're thinking about Q now based on this sort of stronger exit off on queue. Thank you.

Samik Chatterjee: Right.

Speaker Change: Let me take the first question that is a wonderfully.

Speaker Change: Deep question SME come the first one.

Speaker Change: Mainly because.

Speaker Change: As.

Speaker Change: The locus of panel manufacturing.

Speaker Change: Shifted.

Samik Chatterjee: From Korea, Taiwan into China.

Samik Chatterjee: And that high concentration there.

Samik Chatterjee: Has begun to lead to sort of different behavior between set.

Samik Chatterjee: Set makers and panel makers.

Samik Chatterjee: One of the things that led to the sort of classic crystal cycles would be.

Samik Chatterjee: That <unk> had a very strongly growing market, which meant predicting how much capacity you would need was challenging because you have to.

Samik Chatterjee: The right way.

Samik Chatterjee: But then the second was that.

Samik Chatterjee: Set makers with tend to have very strong back half demand panel makers would tend to want to make pretty consistently.

Wendell P. Weeks: Panel makers would tend to want to make pretty consistently. And therefore, you'd have buildups of value chain inventory that added volatility to the market. Two things have changed. First, we're now in the mature stage of the display market, at least until such time as a very new format arrives here. So that end market has become easier to penetrate. Second, what we're seeing with the behavior of the new, very strong panel makers is that they're seeking to optimize panel prices, and they are reducing their utilization to match more closely with the actual orders from set makers.

Samik Chatterjee: And therefore as you would have build hubs value chain inventory that added volatility.

Samik Chatterjee: To the markets.

Samik Chatterjee: Two things have changed.

Samik Chatterjee: We're now in the mature stage of the display market at least until such time as something like.

Samik Chatterjee: Very new format displays start to move.

Samik Chatterjee: So that end market has become easier to predict.

Samik Chatterjee: Second what we're seeing with the behavior.

Samik Chatterjee: The new very strong panel makers is.

Samik Chatterjee: They're seeking to optimize panel price and they are reducing their utilization to match work closely with the actual orders from set makers.

Wendell P. Weeks: So this has begun to change that dynamic of how much inventory gets built up in the value chain. Now, this has only been, you know..., a couple of quarters, a couple of three-quarters, and so it's too early to tell if this is going to be a more longer-term change. If it is a longer-term change, that will reflect well on the health of the industry and the smoothing out of these cycles that you are pointing out.

Samik Chatterjee: So this has begun to change that dynamic of how much inventory gets built up into value chain. Now this is only been.

Samik Chatterjee: No.

Samik Chatterjee: A couple of quarters.

Samik Chatterjee: Couple of three quarters and so it's too early to tell is this going to be.

Samik Chatterjee: More longer term change.

Samik Chatterjee: If it is a longer term change.

Samik Chatterjee: That will reflect well on the health of the industry.

Samik Chatterjee: And the smoothing out of these cycles that you.

Samik Chatterjee: Hi.

Wendell P. Weeks: The pandemic was sort of a mega-cycle, and we're sort of still dealing with some of the things that happened during that period. So that may be more color than you're looking for, Samik, but it is a question upon which, obviously, we are pondering.

Samik Chatterjee: Pointing out.

Samik Chatterjee: The pandemic was sort of mega cycle, and we're sort of still dealing with some of the things that happened during that period.

Samik Chatterjee: So that may be more color than you are looking towards to make but it is it is.

Samik Chatterjee: <unk>.

Samik Chatterjee: Upon which obviously we are pondering.

Wendell P. Weeks: And any thoughts on 2Q, the step up from 1Q to 2Q, just given the exit run rate was higher in 1Q?

Samik Chatterjee: And any thoughts on Q.

Samik Chatterjee: The step up from <unk>, just given the exit run rate was higher in Q.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Yeah, Samik, you know, as you articulate, panel maker utilization was low generally in Q1. We certainly saw a step up towards the end of the quarter. We're expecting them to run, you know, at higher levels through the second quarter and really through the year because if retail is flat, just to meet that flat unit demand, they would have to run at significantly higher levels for the remaining three quarters of the year to meet that demand. We're not guiding a specific volume increase from Q1 to Q2, but I think it's pretty meaningful.

Speaker Change: Yes <unk>.

Speaker Change: As you articulate panel maker utilization was low generally in Q1, we certainly saw a step up towards the end of the quarter were expecting them to run at higher levels through the second quarter and really through the year, because if retail is flat.

Speaker Change: Just to meet that flat unit demand they would have to run at significantly higher levels for the remaining three quarters of the year to meet that demand, we're not guiding specific.

Speaker Change: Volume increase from Q1 to Q2, but I think it's pretty meaningful.

Samik Chatterjee: Thank you. Thanks for all the insights.

Speaker Change: Alright. Thank you thanks for all that it takes.

Speaker Change: Next question.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Tim Long with Barclays. Your line is now open.

Speaker Change: Our next question comes from the line of Tim Long with Barclays. Your line is now open.

Tim Long: Thank you. Maybe just a two-potter on the optical comms business. First, on the telco side, you talked about inventory normalization, but there's also a lot of chatter out there and weakness given 5G hasn't seemed to work all that successfully for the telco. So could you just talk about that business in the context of 5G not being really successful and what that means for some of these longer-term contracts that you have with some of the larger players?

Tim Long: Thank you.

Tim Long: Maybe just a two parter on the the optical comms business first on the telco side.

Tim Long: <unk> talked about the inventory normalization, but theres also a lot of chatter out there weakness given <unk> hasnt seem to work all that successfully to the telcos. So could you just talk.

Tim Long: Talk about that business in the context of.

Tim Long: <unk> isn't really successful and what that means for some of these longer term.

Tim Long: Contracts that you have with some of the larger players.

Tim Long: And then secondly, on the enterprise side, could you touch on the opportunity for a lot of chatter about GPUs kind of chasing where there happens to be spare capacity for energy? Do you see an opportunity for your enterprise business with large data centers popping up in new areas that will need to be connected? Thank you.

Tim Long: Secondly on the enterprise side could you just touch on the opportunity for a lot of chatter about gpus kind of chasing where there happens to be spare capacity for energy.

Tim Long: You see an opportunity for your enterprise business with large data centers popping up in new areas that will need to be connected thank you.

Tim Long: Okay.

Wendell P. Weeks: Thank you, Tim. On the 5G piece, I think that the... The challenge that our customers at Telco have faced is that 5G, you move from 4G, which is very wireless, right, to 5G, which therefore takes wireless and starts to make it more wired, and therefore takes a good amount of infrastructure to put in place. Now, interestingly, what they've taken advantage of is that if they're going to do that, you see them combining their networks from wireline and wireless into one.

Speaker Change: Thank you Tim.

Speaker Change: On the <unk> piece I think that.

Speaker Change: The <unk>.

Speaker Change: And our customers and telco that faced us.

Speaker Change: That.

Speaker Change: <unk> you move from.

Speaker Change: A technology for GE, which wireless is very wireless rate to five G, which therefore, it takes wireless and starts to make it more wireline.

Speaker Change: And therefore, taking a good amount of infrastructure to put in place.

Speaker Change: Now interestingly, what they've taken advantage of if theyre going to do that you see them combining.

Speaker Change: Their networks from wireline and wireless into one.

Wendell P. Weeks: And that allows them some significant cost savings and offers many different potential revenues and opportunities for a given deployment. Now, so in a way, you're seeing their cost productivity improve, their ability to serve. There is the challenge of how much revenue, incremental revenue, 5G at this stage has generated, and that is something they have wrestled with. What you see reflected in our thoughts for the year is a relatively muted deployment.

Speaker Change: And that allows them some significant cost savings and offers.

Speaker Change: Many different potential revenue.

Speaker Change: Opportunities for a given deployment of network.

Speaker Change: So in a way youre seeing there.

Speaker Change: Cost productivity improve.

Speaker Change: Their ability to serve.

Speaker Change: Improve.

Speaker Change: There is the challenge of how much revenue incremental revenue to <unk> at this stage has generated and that is something they have wrestled with.

Speaker Change: What you see reflected in our <unk>.

Speaker Change: <unk> for the year is a relatively muted deployment.

Wendell P. Weeks: Outlook

Wendell P. Weeks: but that we'll still see the pickup because what's pushing us below sort of long-term deployment rates of fire has been this eating through of the inventory largely purchased during the pandemic and dealing with that step. And then, but it does incorporate a lower deployment rate. So that's what we've sought to do for that. Does that address your question on that? Yes.

Speaker Change: Outlook.

Speaker Change: But that will still see the pick up because what's pushing us below sort of long term deployment rates of fiber.

Speaker Change: <unk> been.

Speaker Change: Eating through.

Speaker Change: The inventory largely purchased during the pandemic and dealing with that.

Speaker Change: Step up.

Speaker Change: And then but it does incorporate a lower deployment outlook. So that's what we've sought to do for that Tim does that address your question on that piece.

Wendell P. Weeks: Yes. Yes. And then just on the data centers popping up in other places and their impact.

Speaker Change: Yes, Yes, and then just on the data centers popping up in other places the impact.

Speaker Change: Uh huh.

Wendell P. Weeks: The answer to your question is yes, it is an interesting opportunity, and it is. Coming back to...

Speaker Change: The answer to your question is yes.

Speaker Change: It is a.

Speaker Change: Interesting.

Speaker Change: Opportunity.

Speaker Change: Ed.

Speaker Change: It is.

Wendell P. Weeks: It's enhancing a capability we have that others don't, which is this ability for us to actually respond globally across a really big geographic footprint, not only in the U.S. but across the globe, because this search for energy is more than just finding the exact right communities here. And so, yes, it does offer a significant opportunity for us for both innovation as well as volume. But it's too early to factor that in because they haven't found all the energy sources yet that will be required, and they're still dealing with the infrastructure ramifications there.

Speaker Change: Coming back to it.

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Speaker Change: Hey capability, we have that others don't which is this ability for us to actually respond globally across a really big geographic footprint not only in the U S food across the globe because this search for energy.

Speaker Change: <unk> is more than just finding the exact rate communities here and so yes. It does offer cigna.

Speaker Change: Significant opportunity for us for both innovation as well as volume.

Speaker Change: But it's too early to factor that in because they haven't found all the energy sources yet.

Speaker Change: It will be required and there is still dealing with the infrastructure ramifications are there.

Tim Long: Thanks, Tim. Now, our next question.

Speaker Change: Okay, great. Thank you.

Speaker Change: Thanks, Tim next question.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Asiya Merchant with Citi. Your line is now open.

Speaker Change: Our next question comes from the line of <unk> merchant with Citi. Your line is now open.

Asiya Merchant: Oh great, and apologies if this question has been answered, but I did notice inventory was a little higher this quarter, and op-ex tracked a little bit higher as well. Just if you could provide some clarity on that. Thank you. Sure. Thanks, Asiya.

Merchant: Oh, great and apologies if this question's been answered, but I did notice inventory was a little higher this quarter.

Merchant: And opex attract a little bit higher as well just if you can provide.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Sure. Thanks, Asiya.

Asiya Merchant: Clarity on that thank you sure. Thanks Assia on inventory just think of it as we had a very low volume quarter in general our volume will go up through the year. So we still view inventory as an opportunity.

Edward A. Schlesinger: On inventory, just think of it as we had a very low volume quarter in general. Our volume will go up through the year, so we still view inventory as an opportunity to take it down from the level we're at, and we think that'll be a catalyst for cash flow in 2024. With respect to OPEX, I'm going to answer your question, but I'm going to reframe it a little bit as well.

Speaker Change: To take it down from the level, we're at and we think that'll be a catalyst for cash flow in 2024.

Speaker Change: With respect to Opex.

Assia: I'm going to answer your question, but I'm going to reframe it a little bit as well so sequentially. Our opex was up the simplest way to think about it is that our variable compensation in 2003 was lower than normal because we didn't perform to target in 2023. So we just didn't pay out at target, we're set where we.

Edward A. Schlesinger: So, sequentially, our OPEX was up. The simplest way to think about it is that our variable compensation in 2023 was lower than normal because we didn't perform to target in 2023, so we just didn't pay out. We've reset our targets.

Edward A. Schlesinger: We expect to perform in 2024, so our variable compensation is at a normal level. But what I think is important to take away from OPEX is that we are committed to keep our OPEX relatively flat to where it is. It'll move around in any given quarter. I think we were about 700 million in the first quarter. It could be in the 7 to 7.25 range. But if we're able to do that over time, it creates another leverage point for us as our sales grow, and that's why we talk about powerful incrementals: gross margin expands, and operating margin expands as well, or profitability expands more than sales. So I feel good about OPEX overall.

Assia: Reset our targets, we expect to perform in 2024, so our variable compensation is at a normal level.

Assia: But what I think is important to take away on Opex is we're committed to keep our opex relatively flat to where it is they don't move around in any given quarter I think where we were about $700 million in the first quarter. It could be in the 7% to 725 range, but if we're able to do that over time at Cree.

Assia: Rates another leverage point for us as our sales grow and Thats why we talk about powerful incrementals gross margin expands and operating margin expands as well where profitability expands more than sales. So I feel good about opex overall.

Asiya Merchant: Great. And thank you. Thank you. Well, I was just gonna ask, I know there was commentary on the yen earlier, but investors have been asking when Corning would feel comfortable sharing sort of the new yen. Hedges. And perhaps this question's already been answered, but I did join late. So apologies if this is a repetitive question. But any color on this?

Speaker Change: Okay, great and thanks.

Speaker Change: Alright, okay.

Speaker Change: Well I was just going to ask I know there was commentary on yen earlier, but investors have been asking when Corning would feel comfortable sharing.

Speaker Change: The new Yang.

Speaker Change: Hey, Jay and perhaps my question's already been answered, but I did join late so I'll call that apologies. If this is repetitive question.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Yeah, no apologies necessary, Asiya. Yeah. You know, what I shared earlier was the most important thing is to think about the return we generate in this business. Our goal is to generate an appropriate return. You could think of that as what we will deliver in 2024 or what we will deliver. We're going to use yen hedging and raising prices in combination to generate that economics or those economics... generate that return. And so we have made progress on our hedges; we've made some nice progress, opportunistic throughout the year, and we'll look to hedge at attractive rates.

Speaker Change: Any color on that yes, no apologies necessary ostia yeah.

Speaker Change: What I shared earlier was the most important thing is to think about the return we generate in this business. Our goal is to generate an appropriate return you could think of that is what we will deliver in 2024 or what we delivered in 2023.

Speaker Change: We're going to use yen hedging and raising price in combination to generate that economics are those economics to generate that return.

Speaker Change: We have made progress on our hedges, we've made some nice progress and will be.

Speaker Change: Opportunistic throughout the year, and we will look to hedge at attractive rates, we're not sort of discussing the details and I think it's too early to think about how to frame up core rate for 2025. So we'll keep you posted on that but just think of it as the overall profitability level or cash generation level in the display business.

Edward A. Schlesinger: We're not sort of discussing the details, and I think it's too early to think about how to frame up the core rate for 2025, so we'll keep you posted on that, but just think of it as the overall profitability level or, you know, cash generation level.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Joshua Spector with UBS. Your line is now open.

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Speaker Change: Thank you.

Speaker Change: The next question.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Joshua Spector with UBS. Your line is now open.

Joshua David Spector: Hey guys, congrats on a solid quarter. This is James Cannon. I'm for Josh.

Speaker Change: Hey, guys. Congrats on a solid quarter. This is James on for Josh.

James Cannon: I just wanted to poke at the powerful incrementals you described when talking about the $3 billion sales opportunity. I mean, if I look back at the last couple of quarters, your gross margin has held pretty steady despite sales declining. I think there's some noise with display pricing coming through. Can you just give me some color as to, uh... how we should think about the cadence of gross margins as we go through the rest of the year? Yeah, thanks for the question.

James Cannon: I just wanted to poke on.

James: The powerful Incrementals, you've described we're talking about the $3 billion sales opportunity.

James Cannon: I mean, if I look back at kind of last couple of quarters. Your gross margin has held in pretty steady despite sales declining I think theres, some noise with display pricing coming through.

James: Can you just give me some color as to.

James: How we should think about the cadence of gross margins as we go through the rest of the year.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Yeah, thanks for the question. You know, I think the way to think about it is if you go back to Q2 of, sorry, Q4 of 2022, that was our low. We've expanded our gross margin 300 basis points while our sales have come down almost $400 million. We've done that by improving our productivity ratios, running our factories better, and by raising prices. So we're actually at a very nice baseline of 37%, and I remind you that 37% is closer to 39% when you think about the old map before we absorbed inflation and raised prices, right?

Speaker Change: Yes. Thanks for the question I think the way to think about it is if you go back to Q2 of I am sorry, Q4 of 2022 that was our low point, we've expanded our gross margin 300 basis points, while our sales have come down almost $400 million, we've done that by improving our productivity.

Edward A. Schlesinger: <unk> is running our factories better and by raising price. So we're actually at a very nice baseline of 37% and I'd remind you that 37% is closer to 39%. When you think about the old math before we absorbed inflation and raised price right. So we're starting from a <unk>.

Edward A. Schlesinger: So we're starting from a very nice base, and we have the capacity in place to support a lot higher sales, which is not normally the way we would grow. So as sales come back, we would expect our gross margin to march up along with those sales nicely each quarter. And then, as I mentioned just before, we also believe OPEX, or the operating margin line, is another leverage point for us. So that's how we think about those powerful incrementals. I think you should just think of it as we will march up as our sales grow from 37%.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Nice space and we have the capacity in place to support a lot higher sales, which is not normally the way we would grow.

Edward A. Schlesinger: So as sales come back we would expect our gross margin to March up along with those sales nicely each quarter and then I mentioned just before we also believe opex or on the operating margin line is another leverage point for us. So that's how we think about those powerful Incrementals I think you should just think of it as we will March up as our.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Sales grow from 37%.

James Cannon: Okay, I guess just another way to think about it is... As that $3 billion comes through, I think $40 billion has typically been your target. Has that changed, or is that still where you think you can get to? Yeah, so, you know,

James Cannon: Okay.

James Cannon: Another way to think about it is.

James Cannon: As my 3 billion comes through.

James Cannon: I think fortinet has typically been your target.

James Cannon: Has that changed or is that where you think.

Speaker Change: So where do you think you can get to.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Yeah, so you know, I think we can get there. But just as a reminder, you know, the 40. If you go back in time, we've absorbed a significant amount of inflation and raised prices, which brings our margin percentage down. So, you know, 38% is sort of the new 40% in old math. But I still think, despite that new base, we can get back to that 40% level as we accelerate our sales.

Speaker Change: Yes so.

James Cannon: I think we can get there, but just as a reminder.

Edward A. Schlesinger: 40, if you go back in time, we've absorbed a significant amount of inflation and raised price, which brings our margin percentage down so 38% as sort of the new 40%.

Edward A. Schlesinger: In old math, but I still think despite that new base, we can get back to that 40% level as we accrete our sales up.

James Cannon: James. Next question. Our next question comes from the line of Steven Fox with Fox Advisors. Your line is now open. Hi, good morning. I guess I was just wondering about the specialty materials business. If you can provide some more detail,

Speaker Change: Got it thanks.

Steven Bryant Fox: Thanks, Jamie next question.

James Cannon: Our next question comes from the line of Steven Fox with Fox Advisors. Your line is now open.

Steven Bryant Fox: Hi, Good morning, I guess I was just wondering on the spin.

Steven Bryant Fox: Specialty materials business, if you could provide some more detail.

Steven Bryant Fox: From my seat it looks like it did much better than I would've thought for Q1.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of Steven Fox with Fox Advisors. Your line is now open.

Steven Bryant Fox: How much of that was due to gorilla glass, how do you sort of look at the rest of the year given sort of.

Steven Bryant Fox: Mixed results in Q1 on the phone side like what kind of seasonality et cetera will be looking at thanks.

Steven Bryant Fox: Yeah, I think, you know, it was more or less in line with how we would have expected it. I think it's a business that will grow as we add more Corning content. That's the way we think about it for the year. You know, we don't see the smartphone market being up that much in units, maybe a point or two for the year. There certainly can be some growth in the IT space. But even that is, you know, single digit, maybe mid single digit level. So I think the growth catalyst here is for us to add content to the market, and we just don't.

Steven Bryant Fox: Yes, I think.

Steven Bryant Fox: It was more or less in line with how we would have expected it.

Steven Bryant Fox: I think it's a business that will grow as we add more corning content. That's the way we think about it for the year, we don't see smartphone market being up that much in units, maybe a point or two for the year. There certainly can be some growth in the it space, but even that is single digit maybe mid single.

Steven Bryant Fox: <unk> digit level. So I think the growth catalyst here is for us to add content into the market.

Edward A. Schlesinger: And we just don't see a lot of that happening this year. Most of our newest innovation will be aimed at the model year following this. So, we're not looking at MC as being a big catalyst for near-term growth in terms of persistence. You want it right for this year, but the future it won't.

Steven Bryant Fox: And we just don't see a lot of that happening this year, Steve will be this is.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Most of our newest innovation will be aimed at the model year. Following this so.

Edward A. Schlesinger: No.

Edward A. Schlesinger: We're not looking at <unk>. He has been a big catalyst for near term growth.

Edward A. Schlesinger: In terms of versus.

Edward A. Schlesinger: Q1 rate for this year, but future.

Steven Bryant Fox: Super. We've got time for another question.

Speaker Change: That's helpful. Thank you.

Speaker Change: We've got time for another question.

Operator: Our next question comes from the line of George Notter with Jeffreys. Your line is now open.

Steven Bryant Fox: Our next question comes from the line of George Notter with Jefferies. Your line is now open.

George Charles Notter: Hi there. Thanks very much, guys.

George Charles Notter: Hi, there thanks very much guys.

George Charles Notter: I guess I'm curious about your comments on display. I think you mentioned an appropriate level of profitability. You know, I understand what that is. But when you go out and re-up the hedging portfolio, obviously, there's a cost that comes with that. Do you still insist? I think if I go back in the past, you guys looked at the hedging portfolio as being pretty neutral in terms of cost between what you were long and what you were short.

George Charles Notter: I guess I'm curious about your comments on display I think you mentioned an appropriate level of profitability again, what that is.

George Charles Notter: But when you go out and re up the hedging portfolio. Obviously, there is a cost that comes with that.

George Charles Notter: Do you still I think if I go back in the past you guys looked at the hedging portfolio as being pretty neutral in terms of cost between what you were long and what you were short.

George Charles Notter: Is that still gonna be the case as we re-up the hedges going forward? And then when you talk about an appropriate level of profitability, are you including the cost of that hedging program when you make that statement?

George Charles Notter: Is that still going to be the case as we re up the hedges going forward and then when you talk about an appropriate level of profitability are you, including the cost of that hedging program. When you when you make that statement. Thanks.

George Charles Notter: Thanks.

Wendell P. Weeks: The appropriate level of profitability would include any cost of hedging. We're long the yen, right? Hurd, and Edge reporting out sort of over the sweep of time, generated on the order $2.5 billion of cash, positive cash arising from our hedges, us hedging that long-end position.

George Charles Notter: The appropriate level of profitability would include any cost of hedging.

Wendell P. Weeks: We're long yen rate.

Wendell P. Weeks: Ed.

Wendell P. Weeks: So.

Wendell P. Weeks: You've heard and as Youre, putting out sort of over the sweep of time.

Wendell P. Weeks: We generated are on the order of $2 5 billion of cash positive cash arising from our hedges right.

Wendell P. Weeks: That our us hedging that long yet position.

Wendell P. Weeks: And the way we think about this is that position is coming from the fact we sell, And so. We will resolve this either in the currency markets, should the end come back to more sort of reasonable levels, right? But if not... Our customers are picking up the game, in terms of lower-cost glass because we sell in yen. And so what we will do is just raise our price in yen to share some of that volatility that we're experiencing. Does that make sense, George? Yes, it does. I assume it's like that.

Wendell P. Weeks: And the way we think about this is.

Wendell P. Weeks: That position is coming from the fact, we sell in yen.

George: And so.

Wendell P. Weeks: We will resolve this either in the currency market should the yen.

George: Come back to more sort of reasonable levels, right and we'll be opportunistic about that but if not.

Wendell P. Weeks: Our customers are picking up the game in terms of lower cost glass, because we sell in yen.

Wendell P. Weeks: And so what we will do is raise our price in yen.

George: To share some of that volatility.

Speaker Change: We're seeing in the.

George Charles Notter: It does. I assume it's still fair to say that the cost of the hedging program is... It's pretty minimal for the shareholders, or pretty balanced in terms of the two sides.

Wendell P. Weeks: Does that makes sense George.

George: It does I assume I assume it's still fair to say that the cost of the hedging program as.

George: It's pretty minimal to shareholders, we're pretty balanced in terms of the two sides.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: Thanks, George. And thank you, everybody, for joining us today. Before we close, I wanted to let you know that we will hold our annual meeting of shareholders on May 2. In addition, we'll also attend the JPMorgan Technology Conference on May 21. And finally, we'll be hosting management visits to investor offices. There will be a web replay of today's call on our site starting later this afternoon. Thank you all for joining us. Shannon, that concludes our call. Please disconnect all lines.

George Charles Notter: Yes.

Shannon: Thanks, a lot I appreciate it.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: Yep.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: Thanks, George and thank you everybody for joining us today before we close I wanted to let you know that we will hold our annual meeting of shareholders on May 2nd. In addition, we'll also attend the Jpmorgan technology conference on May 21.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: Finally, we'll be hosting management visits to investor offices in select cities.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: A web replay of today's call on our site starting later this morning.

Ann H. S. Nicholson: Thank you all for joining us Shannon that concludes our call. Please disconnect all lines.

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