Q1 2024 Eventbrite Inc Earnings Call

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Operator: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Eventbrite's first quarter 2024 earnings call. At this time, all lines are in a listen-only mode.

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Katherine Chen: Good afternoon, and welcome to Eventbrite's first quarter 2024 earnings call. My name is Katie Pickett, Investor Relations. With us today are Julia Hartz, our co-founder and chief executive officer, and Lanny Baker, our chief financial officer.

Katherine Chen: Good afternoon, and welcome to Eventbrite first quarter 2024 earnings call. My name is Katie Pickett Investor Relations with US today are Julia Hartz, our co founder and Chief Executive Officer, and Lanny Baker, our Chief Financial Officer.

Katherine Chen: As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and will be available for replay on Eventbrite's Investor Relations website at investor.eventbrite.com. Please also refer to our investor relations website to find our shareholder letter announcing our financial results, which was released prior to the call. Before we get started, I would like to remind you that during today's call, we will be making forward-looking statements regarding future events and financial performance. We caution that such statements reflect our best judgment as of today, May 2nd, based on the factors that are currently known to us, and that actual future events or results could differ materially due to several factors, many of which are beyond our control.

Katherine Chen: As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and will be available for replay on Eventbrite Investor Relations website at Investor Dot Eventbrite Dot com.

Katherine Chen: Please also refer to our Investor relations website to find our shareholder letter announcing our financial results, which was released prior to the call.

Katherine Chen: For a more detailed discussion of the risks and uncertainties affecting our future results, we refer you to the section titled Forward-Looking Statements in our Shareholder Letter and our filings with the SEC. We undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statements made during the call to reflect events or circumstances after today or to reflect new information or the occurrence of unanticipated events, except as required by law. During this call, we'll present Adjusted EBITDA and Adjusted EBITDA Margin, which are non-GAAP financial measures.

Katherine Chen: Before we get started I would like to remind you that during today's call, we will be making forward looking statements regarding future events and financial performance.

Katherine Chen: We caution that such statements reflect our best judgment as of today may 2nd based on the factors that are currently known to us and that actual future events or results could differ materially due to several factors many of which are beyond our control.

Katherine Chen: For a more detailed discussion of the risks and uncertainties affecting our future results. We refer you to this section titled forward looking statements in our shareholder letter and our filings with the SEC.

Katherine Chen: We undertake no obligation to update any forward looking statements made during the call to reflect events or circumstances after today or to reflect new information or the occurrence of an unanticipated events, except as required by law.

Katherine Chen: During this call well present, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin, which are non-GAAP financial measures.

Katherine Chen: These non-GAAP financial measures are not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles and have limitations as an analytical tool. You should not consider them in isolation or as a substitute for analysis of our results of operations as reported under GAAP. A reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure is available in our shareholder letter. We encourage you to read our shareholder letter, which contains important information about GAAP and non-GAAP results. And with that, I'll now turn the call over to Julia.

Katherine Chen: non-GAAP financial measures are not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles and have limitations as analytical tools.

Julia: You should not consider them in isolation or as a substitute for analysis of our results of operations as reported under GAAP.

Julia: A reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure is available in our shareholder letter. We encourage you to read our shareholder letter, which contains important information about GAAP and non-GAAP results.

Katherine Chen: With that I'll now turn the call over to Julia.

Julia D. Hartz: Thank you, Katie, and welcome everyone to our first quarter call. We've been focused this quarter on executing our strategic transformation toward becoming a consumer marketplace for live events, and I'm pleased to say that we've made great progress. We strongly believe that adopting our two-sided marketplace strategy enhances the value proposition we offer to our customers and positions us well to deliver sustainable financial returns in the long run. I want to hit on some of our financial headlines first and then talk about our product roadmap progress and customer feedback. Lani will then fill in the rest of our financial performance and talk about the outlook.

Julia: Thank you Katie and welcome everyone to our first quarter call. We've been focused this quarter on executing our strategic transformation towards becoming a consumer marketplace for live events and I am pleased to say that we've made great progress. We strongly believe that adopting our two sided marketplace strategy enhances the value proposition we offer to our.

Julia D. Hartz: <unk> and positions us well to deliver sustainable financial returns in the long term.

Julia D. Hartz: First, revenue came in toward the higher end of the range at $86.3 million. Marketplace revenue represented 13% of total revenue, up from just 3% a year ago. Revenue per paid ticket was $4.07, which is up 21% compared to Q1 2023. Operating expenses declined from Q4 into Q1, and adjusted EBITDA margin was 12% for the quarter.

Julia D. Hartz: I want to hit on some of our financial headlines first and then talk about our product roadmap progress and customer feedback Lenny will then fill in the rest of our financial performance and talk about the outlook.

Julia D. Hartz: First revenue came in toward the higher end of the range at $86 $3 million marketplace revenue represented 13% of total revenue up from just 3% a year ago.

Julia D. Hartz: Revenue per paid ticket was $4 seven which is up 21% compared to Q1 2023.

Julia D. Hartz: Operating expenses declined from Q4 into Q1, and adjusted EBITDA margin was 12% for the quarter.

Julia D. Hartz: Paid ticket volume was $21.2 million, 8% below a year ago, consistent with our expectations. We have since seen improved paid ticket volume comparisons as we start Q2 compared to Q1, led by higher value creators and larger events. Accelerating paid ticket growth is our number one operating priority. We discussed in our last call the softness in paid ticket volume that we observed as we transitioned to our new two-sided marketplace model, and I want to reiterate that here before I speak to the actions we've taken to improve the growth trajectory. The paid ticket headwinds are caused by two main factors.

Julia D. Hartz: Paid ticket volume was $21 2 million, 8% below a year ago consistent with our expectations we.

Julia D. Hartz: We have since seen improved paid ticket volume comparisons as we start Q2 compared to Q1 led by higher value creators and larger events.

Julia D. Hartz: Accelerating paid ticket growth is our number one operating priority.

Julia D. Hartz: We discussed in our last call the softness in paid ticket volume that we observed as we transition to our new two sided marketplace model and I want to reiterate them here before I speak to the actions we've taken to improve the growth trajectory.

Julia D. Hartz: The paid ticket headwinds are caused by two main factors first we need a higher visibility events that bring more consumers into the marketplace and second we introduced new pricing and packaging to reflect our enhanced marketing and demand generation capabilities, which had near term negative impact on acquisition.

Julia D. Hartz: First, we need higher visibility events that bring more consumers into the marketplace. And second, we introduced new pricing and packaging to reflect our enhanced marketing and demand generation capabilities, which had a near-term negative impact on the acquisition and retention of smaller customers. Here's where we've been focusing to successfully complete this transition cycle and drive greater growth and volume. First, we increased the size of our sales team and improved productivity within the team using targeted consumer demand data to define our target customers.

Julia D. Hartz: And retention of smaller customers.

Julia D. Hartz: Here's where we have been focusing to successfully complete the transition cycle and drive greater growth in volume.

Julia D. Hartz: First we've increased the size of our sales team and improved productivity within the team using targeted consumer demand data to define our target customers the.

Julia D. Hartz: The aggregate value of new sales-driven bookings in Q1 2024 was up more than 80% from Q1 2023. We added approximately 2 million annual tickets to new large event creators during Q1, most of which are already active and on sale in the Eventbrite marketplace today. These high-value events, which include well-known local venues, music and comedy shows, destination events, and food and drink festivals, are great distribution drivers as they draw large audiences of consumers back into the marketplace for re-engagement.

Julia D. Hartz: The aggregate value of new sales drop in bookings in Q1, 2024 was up more than 80% from Q1 2023.

Julia D. Hartz: We added approximately 2 million annual tickets and new large event creators during Q1, most of which are already active and on sale in the eventbrite marketplace today.

Julia D. Hartz: These high value events, which include well known local venues use it can comedy shows destination events and food and drink festivals are great distribution drivers as they draw large audiences of consumers to the marketplace for reengagement.

Julia D. Hartz: To maximize our sales investment, we're closely managing sales productivity, deal economics, bookings-to-sales live velocity, and the effectiveness of our marketplace promotional efforts through our own unique marketing strategy and product-led growth capabilities like our creator marketing tools and Eventbrite ads. Second, on pricing and packaging.

Julia D. Hartz: To maximize our sales investment we're closely managing sales productivity deal economics bookings to sales lie velocity and the effectiveness of our marketplace promotional efforts through our own unique marketing strategy and product led growth capabilities like our creator marketing tools and Eventbrite ads.

Julia D. Hartz: Breeders have adopted the monthly subscription plan at a faster rate than pay-per-event pricing, which combined with their direct feedback has given us a strong signal on how we can simplify the choice set and lean more into the subscription pathway by offering free trialing, annual discounts, and promotional benefits for things like Eventbrite ads. In response to these changes and clearer communication around the plans, subscribing creators increased by 40% across the first quarter. Further up the funnel, we're improving our self-sign-on experience to make onboarding easier and friction-free. This means a cleaner UX, a more effective product tour, and better experiences for logged-out users and those on mobile devices.

Julia D. Hartz: Second on pricing and packaging breeders have adopted the monthly subscription plan at a faster rate than pay per event pricing, which combined with their direct feedback has given us a strong sick at all on how we can simplify the choice that and lean more into the subscription pathway by offering free Trialing annual discount.

Julia D. Hartz: And promotional benefits for things like Eventbrite ads in response to these changes and clear communication around the plans subscribing creators increased by 40% across the first quarter.

Julia D. Hartz: Further up the funnel, we're improving our self sign on experience to make onboarding easier and friction free. This means a cleaner you ask a more effective product tour and better experiences for logged out users and those on mobile devices.

Julia D. Hartz: We're reinforcing our commitment to streamlining event publishing and ticket sales, which has always been an advantage of Eventbrite. During the first quarter, we reduced the time it takes most creators to sign up for the first time by 45% and increased first event conversion. In addition to these transitions, we're focusing on creator satisfaction and listening carefully to their feedback. For instance, we introduced instant payouts and tap-to-pay in Q1 to give creators faster access to their money and greater convenience to support at-the-door ticket sales. We also delivered a new creator dashboard that provides the reporting clarity they want.

Julia D. Hartz: We're reinforcing our commitment to streamlining event publishing and ticket sales, which has always been an advantage of eventbrite.

Julia D. Hartz: During the first quarter, we reduced the time it takes most creators to sign up for the first time by 45% and increased first event conversion.

Julia D. Hartz: In addition to these transitions, we're focusing on creator satisfaction and listening carefully to their feedback for instance, we introduced instant payouts and tap to pay in Q1 to give creators faster access to their money and greater convenience to support at the door ticket sales.

Julia D. Hartz: We also delivered a new create our dashboard that provides the reporting clarity they want.

Julia D. Hartz: Creators have also asked for greater support and expert guidance, and we responded by expanding customer support and account management. These action plans are the primary levers that position us to reaccelerate paid ticket volume as we move through 2024, but we haven't taken our eye off the longer-term strategy of how we build our marketplace at scale. Our creators tell us their top need is to connect with their community and convert that community into a growing number of event goers.

Julia D. Hartz: Creators have also asked for greater support and expert guidance and we responded by expanding customer support and account management.

Julia D. Hartz: These action plans are the primary levers that position us to Reaccelerate paid ticket volume as we move through 2024, well, we haven't taken our eye off the longer term strategy of how we build our marketplace at scale.

Julia D. Hartz: Our creators tell us their top need is to connect with their community and convert that community into a growing number of event goers in the first quarter. We brought 28 million ticket buyers together with 345000 creators issuing 66 million tickets across a wide variety of 1.4.

Julia D. Hartz: In the first quarter, we brought 28 million ticket buyers together with 345,000 creators, issuing 66 million tickets across a wide variety of 1.4 million events worldwide. Over $850 million in gross ticket sales were transacted in the Eventbrite marketplace in the quarter.

Julia D. Hartz: Events worldwide.

Julia D. Hartz: Over $850 million in gross ticket sales was transacted in the eventbrite marketplace in the quarter.

Julia D. Hartz: Approximately half of the tickets sold in our marketplace were driven by Eventbrite, which was a record high for us and one that confirms the strength of our strategy. Eventbrite Ads is a great example of our unique ability to impact and help drive demand. A record number of creators promoted their events via Eventbrite Ads in the quarter as we improved ad targeting and performance to deliver a lower cost per click for advertisers.

Julia D. Hartz: Approximately half of the tickets sold in our marketplace were driven by Eventbrite, which was a record high for us and one that confirms the strength of our strategy.

Julia D. Hartz: And then probably ads is a great example of our unique ability to impact and help drive demand.

Julia D. Hartz: A record number of creators promoted their events via Eventbrite adds in the quarter as we improved AD targeting and performance to deliver a lower cost per click for advertisers.

Julia D. Hartz: We significantly broadened availability with the launch in 43 new cities worldwide and introduced new incentives to drive greater trials of Eventbrite ads. On the consumer side, more event goers are looking to the Eventbrite website and our mobile app to search, shop, and find things to do. Average monthly active users across our site and app rose to 85 million in the first quarter, with mobile app users up 15% and mobile purchases up 35%.

Julia D. Hartz: We significantly broadened availability with the launch and 43 new cities worldwide.

Julia D. Hartz: And introduce new incentives to drive creator trials of Eventbrite ads.

Julia D. Hartz: On the consumer side more event goers are looking to be Eventbrite website, and our mobile app to search shop and find things to do.

Julia D. Hartz: Average monthly active users across our site and App rose to 85 million in the first quarter with mobile App users up 15% and mobile purchases up 35% in the quarter.

Charles C. Baker: Our Consumer App is the stickiest and highest-conversion experience and the place most people turn to to get their tickets. We see an opportunity to use the app to drive loyalty and repeat purchase behavior among our target consumers, and we plan to invest in this further in 2024. In other product surfaces, we're utilizing generative AI to remove friction and create an event and enhance copy and imagery to drive greater sell-through when used with our marketing tools and demand capabilities.

Julia D. Hartz: Our consumer App is the stickiest and highest conversion experience and the place most people turn to to get their tickets.

Charles C. Baker: We see an opportunity to use the app to drive loyalty and repeat purchase behavior, among our target consumers and we plan to invest here further in 2024.

Charles C. Baker: Another product surfaces were utilizing generative AI to remove friction and creating an event and enhanced coffee and imagery to drive greater sell through when using our marketing tools and demand capabilities.

Charles C. Baker: Through our AI event creation tools, roughly half of new creators have been able to publish their events in a third less time while generating more ticket sales. In Event Discovery, we've deployed AI-powered trending tags to identify trending event themes in real-time, locally, and generate unique editorial event collections, which offers a hyper-local approach at scale across top markets and categories. We're encouraged by our progress in executing our marketplace strategy because it effectively responds to creators' event marketing needs, diversifies our revenue streams, and enhances our unit economics and profit margins.

Charles C. Baker: Through our AI event creation tools, roughly half of new creators have been able to publish their event and a third last time, while generating more ticket sales.

Charles C. Baker: An event discovery, we've deployed AI powered trending tax to identify trending event teams in real time locally and generate unique editorial event collections, which offers a hyper local approach at scale across top markets and categories.

Charles C. Baker: We're encouraged by our progress in executing our marketplace strategy, because it effectively responds to creators event marketing needs Diversifies, our revenue streams and enhances our unit economics and profit margins.

Charles C. Baker: We're working through some natural friction as we execute this transition, and we're hyper-focused on re-accelerating paid ticket growth this year. Thank you for your support, and I look forward to updating you as the year progresses. I'll now turn the call over to Lani for a deeper review of our financial results and our outlook. Lani? Thank you, Julia.

Charles C. Baker: We're working through some natural friction as we execute this transition and we're hyper focused on re accelerating paid ticket growth this year.

Lani: Thank you for your support and I look forward to updating you as the year progresses.

Lani: I'll now turn the call over in Atlanta for a deeper review of our financial results and our outlook Lanny.

Lani: Thank you Julia.

Charles C. Baker: First quarter revenue of $86.3 million was up 11% year-over-year, propelled by strong growth in marketplace revenue, including organizer fees and advertising. Revenue from organizer fees, which were rolled out broadly in Q3 of last year, totaled $8.5 million in the first quarter of 2024, compared to $6.6 million in the preceding quarter. An increase in pro plan subscribers drove the majority of that quarter-to-quarter revenue growth. Revenue from Eventbrite ads was $2.5 million in the first quarter, up nearly 3x compared to a year ago, as creator adoption more than doubled, and spend per advertiser rose 23% year-to-year.

Lani: First quarter revenue of $86 3 million was up 11% year over year propelled by strong growth in marketplace revenue, including the organizer fees and advertising.

Charles C. Baker: Revenue from organizer fees, which were rolled out broadly in Q3 of last year totaled $8 5 million in the first quarter of 2024 compared to $6 6 million in the preceding quarter.

Charles C. Baker: An increase in pro plan subscribers drove the majority of that quarter to quarter revenue growth.

Charles C. Baker: Revenue from Eventbrite ads was $2 5 million in the first quarter up nearly three ARX <unk> compared to a year ago.

Charles C. Baker: Creator adoption more than doubled and spend per advertiser rose, 23% year to year.

Charles C. Baker: Improvements in relevance and targeting led to a lower cost per click and higher return on ad spending for creators, both on a year-to-year and sequential basis in the first quarter. In the core ticketing business, paid creators were down 1%, while events per creator were stable.

Charles C. Baker: Improvements in relevance and targeting led to a lower cost per click and higher return on AD spending for creators both on a year to year and sequential basis in the first quarter.

Charles C. Baker: In the core ticketing business paid creators were down 1%.

Charles C. Baker: Events per creator were stable.

Charles C. Baker: And average ticket price per event was 7% lower year to year. This led to the 8% decline in paid tickets in the first quarter. Meanwhile, average ticket price gains 3% year-to-year, Eventbrite's revenue per ticket increased 21% year-to-year to a record $4.07, and our revenue take rate was 10.1% compared to 8.6% a year ago. As the marketplace strategy capitalizes on demand generation to increase unit economics and monetization, gross margins have shifted higher, reaching a new record of 71% in the first quarter.

Charles C. Baker: And average tickets per event was 7% lower year to year. This led to the 8% decline in paid tickets in the first quarter.

Charles C. Baker: Meanwhile, average ticket price gained 3% year to year.

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Charles C. Baker: And our revenue take rate was 10, 1% compared to eight 6% a year ago.

Charles C. Baker: As the marketplace strategy capitalizes on demand generation to increase unit economics, and monetization gross margins have shifted higher reaching a new record of 71% in the first quarter.

Charles C. Baker: Gross margins also benefited from steps we've taken to reduce the fixed portions of the cost of revenue. Total operating expenses were $68.8 million in the first quarter, including a small expense associated with our 2023 restructuring. We reduced total OPEX between Q4 of last year and Q1 of this year, with reductions in sales and marketing and general and administrative expenses, partially offset by an increase in product development as we invest in the marketplace and the consumer.

Charles C. Baker: Gross margins also benefited from steps, we've taken to reduce the fixed portions of cost of revenue.

Charles C. Baker: Total operating expenses were $68 8 million in the first quarter, including a small expense associated with our 2023 restructuring.

Charles C. Baker: We reduced total opex between Q4 of last year and Q1 of this year.

Charles C. Baker: With reductions in sales and marketing and general and administrative expenses.

Charles C. Baker: Partially offset by an increase in product development as we invest in marketplace and consumer.

Charles C. Baker: Adjusted EBITDA was $10.4 million in the first quarter, a 12% adjusted EBITDA margin, and net income was a loss of $4.5 million for the quarter. Turning to the balance sheet, cash and cash equivalents rose to $580 million at the end of the first quarter, up from $489 million at the start of the quarter. Excluding ticket sale proceeds payable to creators, the company's available liquidity was $378 million at the end of Q1, compared to $391 million three months earlier.

Charles C. Baker: Adjusted EBITDA was $10 4 million in the first quarter, a 12% adjusted EBITDA margin.

Charles C. Baker: Net income was a loss of $4 5 million for the quarter.

Charles C. Baker: Up from $489 million at the start of the quarter.

Charles C. Baker: Excluding ticket sale proceeds payable to creators the company's available liquidity was $378 million at the end of Q1 compared to 391 million three months earlier.

Charles C. Baker: We repurchased 2.6 million shares, or $15 million, of our stock during the first quarter. That's under the $100 million buyback program authorized by our board in March of this year. Finally, we had $358 million in long-term debt outstanding at the end of Q1.

Charles C. Baker: Overall, a solid financial foundation to support our operations and strategy. Finally, we've updated our business outlook. Based on first quarter results and current information, we now anticipate revenue for the full year of 2024 to be within a range of $360 million to $371 million. At the midpoint of this updated and slightly narrower range, our full-year outlook equates to 12% revenue growth over 2023. For the second quarter of 2024, we anticipate that revenue will be within a range of $84 million to $87 million.

Charles C. Baker: Finally, we've updated our business outlook based on first quarter results and current information. We now anticipate revenue for the full year of 2024 to be within a range of $360 million to $371 million.

Charles C. Baker: At the midpoint of the updated and slightly narrower range, our full year outlook equates to 12% revenue growth over 2023.

Charles C. Baker: Paid ticket volume is expected to be down year-to-year in the second quarter, although by a smaller percentage change than in the first quarter of 2024. For the full year, we expect paid ticket volume to be down slightly to up modestly from 2023.

Operator: As comparisons become easier, we move beyond the initial marketplace changes, and we execute on our product, marketing, and sales priorities. We plan to continue to manage expenses tightly with a focus on improving paid tickets and executing the marketplace strategy. We anticipate adjusted EBITDA margins in the low to mid-teens for the full year 2024, which is consistent with the outlook shared earlier this year. In summary, our first quarter financial results were consistent with our expectations.

Operator: And we continue to make significant progress on our two-sided marketplace strategy. We believe we are stabilizing paid ticket trends, and we are listening to creators in order to drive ticket volume improvement as the year progresses. We believe that gains we have made in marketplace revenue, revenue per ticket, and the higher take rate have fundamentally strengthened our business model, and our balance sheet remains strong. We believe we are well-positioned to execute the marketplace transition and unlock Eventbrite's full potential in the live experiences economy. With that, I'll turn the call back to the operator.

Operator: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. Should you have a question, please press the star followed by the 1 on your touchtone phone. You will hear a prompt that your hand has been raised. Questions will be taken in the order received. Would you wish to cancel your request? Please press the star followed by the 2. If you are using a speakerphone, please lift the handset before pressing any key. Your first question is from Youssef Squali from Truist Securities. Please ask your question.

Youssef Houssaini Squali: Thank you very much. Hi Julia. Hi Lenny. A couple of questions.

Julia D. Hartz: Thanks for all the color on the pay ticket sold. But can you maybe just talk about the competitive intensity today versus, say, a year ago? What gives you the confidence that what you're seeing with pay-per-view ticket growth is entirely internal due to internal changes and then maybe not necessarily due to other market dynamics? And then, can you maybe quantify what you've seen so far in April in terms of paid tickets sold?

Julia D. Hartz: Yeah, thanks, Youssef. Great to hear from you. So we're, you know, competing in a very dynamic and fragmented market, and that hasn't changed as we've moved into this year. We're really choosing to shift the point of competition from a commoditized ticketing platform to a driver of demand generation, because that is what our creators tell us is their number one priority. And because of its scale, we think we have an advantage here. We have a far greater scale than our niche competitors.

Julia D. Hartz: We bring 20 million ticket buyers together with 345,000 creators in the quarter alone and sell 66 million tickets to 1.4 million events. That is something that we're proud of and building on, but not any reason for us to remain complacent. So while we believe our ubiquity across the event categories and geographies in our markets is unmatched in this mid-market segment, we remain healthily paranoid about, you know, which new technologies are coming into the market, and which consumer experiences are better than Eventbrite.

Julia D. Hartz: And we use those as points of aspiration and inspiration for us to build a better experience and disrupt ourselves. One of the reasons why we're focused so heavily on consumer engagement is not because it's easy, but because we've built scale and driven demand for over half of, sorry, roughly half the tickets flowing through our Eventbrite-driven channels. And we think that with that scale and that knowledge of how to drive tickets to consumers, we can actually build a much stickier experience for consumers and drive repeat consumer behavior.

Julia D. Hartz: So I would say that competition will always be a factor in our market, particularly because it's so fragmented, but we aren't seeing one player come in and disrupt our market position. And we will continue to look around, particularly in places where we believe, you know, companies could be driving demand for live events in our market.

Julia D. Hartz: I'll talk about your question about the second quarter. We've just started the quarter really, but we are seeing improved paid ticket trends relative to the first quarter. That's been led by higher-value creators and larger events. As we said, bookings of new events through our sales channel, which typically goes after larger events, larger creators, and things that our consumers are telling us they really want to see in our marketplace, were up 80% year to year in the first quarter.

Julia D. Hartz: And that builds on strong sales-driven booking momentum that we established at the tail end of 2023. Those events are starting to populate the calendar now, and they're more on the upcoming months as well. So that's one thing we're starting to see. At the very top of the self-sign on funnel, we are seeing some early signs of improvement. It's too early to impact paid ticket volume in any meaningful way. However, the plan that we have, that we're focused on to drive growth even later into the year, which is adjusting pricing and packaging, focusing on those high-value creators and large events that are so important to the flywheel and the value of our marketplace.

Julia D. Hartz: And then enhancing the value proposition of the Eventbrite marketplace, whether that's Eventbrite ads or marketing tools, or the distribution that we have to consumers. Ask for product features, more service, and support. All those things, we are putting them in the marketplace right now. We are seeing some impact on greater satisfaction already. And that gives us confidence about where we'll be later this year.

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Julia D. Hartz: All those things we are putting them in the marketplace right now we are seeing some impact on greater satisfaction already.

Julia D. Hartz: That gives us confidence about where it will be later on this year.

Youssef Houssaini Squali: Okay, thank you both.

Speaker Change: Okay. Thank you both.

Justin Tyler Patterson: Thank you. Your next question is from Justin Patterson from Quebec. Please ask your question.

Youssef Houssaini Squali: Thank you. Your next question is from Justin Patterson from Keybanc. Please ask your question.

Justin Tyler Patterson: Great, thanks. Good afternoon.

Justin Tyler Patterson: Great. Thanks, Good afternoon could you.

Justin Tyler Patterson: Expense more just on how you are tracking these larger creators and how the cost of service that might be different from the smaller creators. So that's the first question and then second focus quite a bit on the mobile app. Both in the letter in the prepared remarks could you talk about some of the steps you're taking this year to really improve that.

Charles C. Baker: Could you expand some more just on how you're attracting these larger creators and how the cost of serving them might be different from the smaller creators? So that's the first question. And second, you focused quite a bit on the mobile app, both in the letter and in the prepared remarks. Could you talk about just some of the steps you're taking this year to really improve that and just get even more consumers transacting through that piece of the platform? Thank you.

Charles C. Baker: Sure. I'll talk first about the larger accounts, and then I'll let Julia talk about our plans for the mobile app. Our business is one in which there's this head inventory of what we call strategic inventory. It's very large, high-value events and creators who put on some of the most popular events in the local marketplaces. And that's a very clear focus area of ours.

Charles C. Baker: Business is one in which there are there are there is this head inventory of what we call strategic inventory its very large high value events and creators who put on some of the most popular events in the local marketplaces.

Julia: And that's a.

Julia: Very clear focus area of us of ours, we're using the consumer data from our App and from our our web product to determine what people are most interested in seeing in November it marketplace and then we're turning our sales force loose on acquiring those customers our value proposition to them centers around the great performance of the Eventbrite platform the <unk>.

Julia D. Hartz: We're using the consumer data from our app and from our web product to determine what people are most interested in seeing in the Eventbrite marketplace, and then we're turning our sales force loose on acquiring those customers. Our value proposition to them centers around the great performance of the Eventbrite platform, the full-featured nature, and our reputation in the marketplace. We're able to offer pretty competitive financial terms because we also have this long tail of smaller creators where the customer acquisition cost is very, very low, and that gives us a lot of margin to play with as we go after some of those larger creators who are often more demanding.

Julia D. Hartz: Full featured nature, our reputation in the marketplace.

Julia D. Hartz: We're able to offer pretty competitive financial terms, because we also have this long tail of smaller craters, where the customer acquisition cost is very very low.

Julia D. Hartz: The value proposition for them is really about the product and increasingly about demand generation. These creators are some of the earliest and largest uptakers of Eventbrite ads and users of our marketing tools. And so, our value proposition for them, I think, is differentiated in the marketplace, and we're really excited about the progress we've made. We are seeing customers in that cohort who left us a couple of years ago starting to come back to the Eventbrite platform that they know and trust. And feel like we've got some strong momentum in that part of the marketplace. And then on the mobile app side, Justin, we have seen mobile app users.

Julia D. Hartz: And so our value proposition for them I think is differentiated in the marketplace and we're really excited about the progress. We've made we are seeing customers in that cohort, who left US a couple of years ago, starting to come back to the Eventbrite platform that they know and trust.

Julia D. Hartz: And then on the mobile app side, Justin, we have seen mobile app users up 15% in the quarter and mobile purchases up 35% in the quarter, which underpins the theme of the mobile app being a more highly engaged and, quote, unquote, sticky surface area for our consumers. We're currently taking concerted action to drive more consumers and ticket buyers to the app in order to access their tickets as well as be able to be served personalized content and browse for new events, new events to attend.

Julia D. Hartz: Our future plans this year include redesigning that experience to more closely align with our vision around where we want consumers to start considering events, right? As a place to go to seek relevance and to be able to connect with more experiences around them. We have a core customer that we're building for who is more likely the person that is inviting others to events. So we want to make sure that their social graph is something that we can help them connect to as well as create frictionless ways for them to discover experiences and be able to bring other people along with them.

Julia D. Hartz: So, you'll see more of that as we continue on this year, but right now, we're really focused on getting the basics right and making sure that more of the consumers we had 85 million monthly actives in total on event. More and more of them are coming through the app, downloading that app, and using it as their wallet for access to an event.

Matthew F. Farrell: Thank you. Your next question is from Matt Farrell on Piper Sandler. Please ask your question.

Matthew F. Farrell: Thanks for letting me ask a question. My first one is on take rate trends from here. You know, take rate was flat sequentially quarter over quarter after, you know, several quarters of big moves higher. Are there any, how should we be thinking about the expansion, I guess, throughout the rest of 2024? And are there any potential headwinds to take rate moving forward, just as you look to regain some of the creators that have left the platform and maybe a larger focus on the larger creators? Here.

Charles C. Baker: Thanks, Pat. The take rate over the last couple of years has moved up. It was in the high sevens a couple of years ago. It was in the eight percent. Now we've broken through the 10 percent barrier.

Charles C. Baker: In the high Sevens, a couple of years ago. It was in the 8% now we're broken through the 10% barrier.

Charles C. Baker: And, you know, I'd say the first stage of that improvement has really come from deep work that we did a couple of years ago on just the basic performance of the platform, the product market fit for frequent creators who really are the highest value creators in the marketplace. Better product market fit means better pricing and better take rate. The second stage has really been just the earliest stage of our marketplace strategy.

Charles C. Baker: And I'd say the first stage of that improvement has really come from deeper.

Charles C. Baker: Deep work that we did a couple years ago on just the basic performance of the platform the product market fit for frequent creators, who really are the highest value creators in the marketplace not allowed us to.

Charles C. Baker: To improve better better product market fit means better pricing and better take rate.

Charles C. Baker: The second stage has been really reflecting just the earliest open.

Charles C. Baker: The opening of our marketplace strategy in the marketplace strategy revolves around not just being a ticketing platform, but really being a marketing distribution demand generation partner for creators when we look at creators budgets they spend more money on marketing their events and on driving customers.

Charles C. Baker: And the marketplace strategy revolves around not just being a ticketing platform but really being a marketing, distribution, and demand generation partner for creators. When we look at creators' budgets, they spend more money on marketing their events and driving customers and building their communities and bringing in new customers and bringing back loyal event attendees. And we believe, with our consumer scale, with our technological capabilities, with our brand recognition on the consumer side, that's a space that Eventbrite can move into and really play a very differentiated and very, very big role.

Charles C. Baker: Building their communities.

Charles C. Baker: Bringing in new customers, bringing back loyal event attendees and we believe with our consumer scale with our technological capabilities with our brand recognition on the consumer side.

Charles C. Baker: That's a space that eventbrite can move into and really play a very differentiated and very very big role.

Charles C. Baker: So the growth that you've seen over the last, you know, say 12 months, 18 months has come from the earliest stages of that demand generation marketplace strategy. And from here, I think things like the growth of Eventbrite ads, the strength of our distribution, our ability to drive audience are the pathway to moving the take rate higher in the long term. There aren't any major headwinds, as you asked about for the rest of this year. I think we'll stay in this range. And, you know, the growth of our demand generation and monetization of Eventbrite ads will determine where the take rate goes in the long term.

Charles C. Baker: The growth that you've seen over the last say.

Charles C. Baker: 12 months 18 months has come from the earliest stages of that demand generation marketplace strategy and from here I think things like the growth of Eventbrite adds the strength of our distribution our ability to drive audience are the pathway to moving the take rate higher in the long term.

Charles C. Baker: There arent any major headwinds.

Charles C. Baker: You asked about for the rest of this year I think we'll stay in this range and.

Charles C. Baker: The growth of our demand generation monetization of Eventbrite ads will determine where the take rate goes in the long term.

Matthew F. Farrell: And then maybe just touching on the free creators, you know, it seems like based on some of the metrics you put in the press release that, you know, the free creators have left at a greater rate than the paid creators. And so what are some of the things you're looking to do to bring these creators back to the platform? And as we think about the ability to drive consumers to the platform and the dynamics around the advertising business, if these free creators don't come back, is there a risk that we see a slowdown in the ads business, you know, over the next, call it, you know, a couple of quarters or so from a growth perspective?

Charles C. Baker: And then maybe just touching on.

Matthew F. Farrell: The fully creators.

Matthew F. Farrell: It seems like based on some of the metrics you put in the press release that the pre creators have left at a greater pace than the paid creators and so what are some of the things. We're looking to do to bring these creators back to the platform.

Matthew F. Farrell: And as we think about the.

Matthew F. Farrell: The ability to drive consumers to the platform and the dynamics around the advertising business. If these three creators don't come back is there a risk that we see a slowdown in the ads business.

Matthew F. Farrell: Over the next call it couple of quarters or mid term from.

Matthew F. Farrell: From a growth perspective thanks.

Charles C. Baker: Sure. Well, you're right. The free creators have had a greater reaction to the introduction of pricing and packaging. And, you know, let's be clear.

Matthew F. Farrell: Sure.

Charles C. Baker: Thanks. Sure. Well, you're right. The free creators have had

Charles C. Baker: What youre right. The free creators have had a greater reaction to the introduction of pricing and packaging.

Charles C. Baker: For a free creator of an event smaller than 25 attendees, Eventbrite remains free for free. For those creators of larger events on the free side, there is a modest per-event fee. You know, it's between 25 and 100 tickets.

Speaker Change: And let's be clear.

Charles C. Baker: For a free creator of an event smaller than 25 attendees eventbrite remains free for free.

Charles C. Baker: For those creators of larger events on the free side. There is a modest per event fee between 25 and 100 tickets.

Charles C. Baker: $10 fee to list that have entered the eventbrite marketplace. Most free creators have some economic activity going on at that event, whether it's merchandise sales or its memberships or its sponsorship.

Charles C. Baker: It's a $10 fee to list that event in the Eventbrite marketplace. Most free creators have some economic activity going on at that event, whether it's merchandise sales, or it's memberships, or it's sponsorship, and that listing fee has been accepted by the majority of free creators. However, there are other free creators who are sensitive to it, and it has had a greater impact.

Charles C. Baker: Listings fee has been accepted by the majority of <unk>. There are other pre creators who are sensitive to it and it has had.

Charles C. Baker: A greater impact you can imagine a free creators never paid eventbrite before and we're now asking them to.

Charles C. Baker: You can imagine a free creator has never paid Eventbrite before, and we're now asking them to. A paid event creator, you know, sees money flowing through Eventbrite all the time, and it's been easier for us to introduce that, just charging for something on the already commercial paid customers. The disruption that we've seen, we're taking steps to do things like offer discounted rates for nonprofit organizations, seasonal promotions where we can provide discounts to bring people onto the marketplace. You have a good question, though, about the role of that free traffic and those free tickets.

Charles C. Baker: A paid event creator.

Charles C. Baker: She has money flowing through Eventbrite, all the time and it has been.

Charles C. Baker: <unk> for us to introduce that just charging for something on the on the R&D commercial paid customers.

Charles C. Baker: The disruption that we've seen we're taking steps to do things like offer discounted rates for nonprofit organizations seasonal promotions for.

Charles C. Baker: Where we can provide discounts to bring people onto the marketplace. You have a good question, though about the role of that free traffic in those pre tickets. It's an important part of our franchise and we continue to do almost twice as many free tickets as we do paid tickets.

Charles C. Baker: It's an important part of our franchise, and we continue to do almost twice as many free tickets as we do paid tickets. I think when we look at overall MAUs up a couple million year over year, and we look at mobile app users growing by a mid-teens percentage, we continue to feel like, and certainly as we add those high-value creators, they bring so much attractive draw and gravity to our marketplace.

Charles C. Baker: When we look at our overall <unk> up a couple of million dollars year over year, we look at the mobile app users growing by a mid teens percentage.

Charles C. Baker: We continue to feel like and certainly as we add those high value creators that they.

Charles C. Baker: They bring so much attractive draw gravity to our marketplace. We feel like we're in really good position to continue to drive the users that we need to support our demand generation strategy.

Charles C. Baker: We feel like we're in a really good position to continue to drive the users that we need to support our demand generation strategy. There are big opportunities to drive repeat purchase activity amongst the tens of millions of people on our site who we know are ticket buyers, and there is a frequency opportunity there. So, as we turn and you ask about how that connects to Eventbrite ads, well, we're still at a relatively early stage with Eventbrite ads.

Charles C. Baker: Tens of millions of people on our site, who we know our ticket buyers and there is a frequency opportunity. There. So is returning to ask about how that connects to Eventbrite adds while we're still a relatively early stage of Eventbrite ads the penetration of the advertiser base is strong and growing but still emergent.

Charles C. Baker: The penetration of the advertiser base is strong and growing, but still emerging. The coverage of Eventbrite across all of our markets is still being built and being expanded out. The surfaces on which you can advertise, the different pricing options, so there are a lot of levers on Eventbrite ads. I think we remain in a good position on overall traffic, and we do regard that free franchise of ours as a very valuable part of the business, and we're taking steps to move through the transition of having introduced a relatively small listing fee, but that fee stands on top of the value we're delivering for all those creator

Charles C. Baker: The coverage of Eventbrite across all of our markets is still being built and being expanded out the surfaces on which you can advertise a different pricing options. So so there are a lot of levers on Eventbrite ads I think we remain in a good position on overall traffic and we'd be due regard that free franchise of.

Charles C. Baker: Ours is a very valuable part of the business and we're taking steps to move that move through the transition of having introduced a relatively small listings fee, but that fee stands on top of the value we're delivering for all of those graders.

Naved Ahmad Khan: Thank you. Your next question is from Naved Khan from B Riley Securities. Please ask your question. Hi, this is Ryan on behalf of Naved. So we were wondering what

Speaker Change: Thank you. Your next question is from <unk> Khan from B Riley Securities. Please ask your question.

Naved Ahmad Khan: Hi, This is Ryan on for an event. So we are wondering on the buildout of the new sales team. When this should begin having an impact on creator growth and then also on.

Ryan: The stacks and priority of cash usage.

Naved Ahmad Khan: Sure.

Charles C. Baker: Sure. You know, I think that the build-out of the Salesforce platform is more likely to have an influence on paid ticket volume. The average across our entire market is 50 attendees at an event. But Salesforce is going after, you know, creators who are doing 500-person events, 5,000-person events, and even larger. So the play with Salesforce is really about high-value creators rather than sheer volume of creators. The volume play we have is the fact that 98% plus of our creators self-sign on, and the majority of that is brought in organically by the sort of distribution and ubiquity of the Eventbrite platform.

Naved Ahmad Khan: Sure.

Charles C. Baker: The average across our entire market. The average is about 50 attendees at an event, but the salesforce is going after.

Charles C. Baker: Creators, who are doing 500 person events 5000 person events and even larger.

Charles C. Baker: No.

Charles C. Baker: The play with the sales force is really about high value creators rather than sheer volume of creators. The volume play. We have is the fact that 98% plus of our creators self sign on.

Charles C. Baker: The majority of that is brought in organically by the sort of distribution and the ubiquity of <unk> pipeline. So I wouldn't look for the investment in the sales and customer managed account management customer success.

Charles C. Baker: To drive volume of customers as much as high value customers, who bring in the ticket volume.

Charles C. Baker: So I wouldn't look for the investment in sales and customer account management customer success to drive volume of customers as much as high-value customers who bring in ticket volume. On your second question about the share purchase, we repurchased about 2.5 million shares during the quarter. That program was announced and sort of put in place in March. Since the end of the quarter, we've repurchased another 2.5 million shares, bringing us to a little bit more than 5 million shares and about $30 million deployed cumulatively since the start of the program.

Charles C. Baker: On your second question about the share repurchase we repurchased about $2 5 million shares during the quarter that program was announced.

Charles C. Baker: Put in place in March since the end of the quarter, we repurchased another two and a half million shares, bringing us to a little bit more than 5 million shares and about $30 million deployed cumulatively since the start of the program.

Charles C. Baker: $100 million program and our purpose is to manage our balance sheet to maintain flexibility and stability to support our our strategy and our operations. While also taking advantage of the liquidity that we have to return some capital to shareholders to accrete ownership in the company.

Charles C. Baker: It's a $100 million program, and our purpose is to manage our balance sheet, to maintain flexibility and stability, to support our strategy and our operations, while also taking advantage of the liquidity that we have to return some capital to shareholders to accrete ownership in the company at this sort of moment of transition in the business, where we think the company is becoming more valuable. And we'll update you in the future on our future plans there.

Dae K. Lee: Thank you. Your next question is from Dae Lee from J.P. Morgan. Please ask your question.

Speaker Change: Thank you. Your next question is from daily from Jpmorgan. Please ask your question.

Dae K. Lee: Great, thanks for taking my questions back too. So the first one, I mean, it sounds like you guys have enough engagement on your platform for now, but I assume becoming a marketplace means consumer engagement needs to continue to grow. So you could remind us what your strategy is today and whether that needs to be followed up with more?

Dae K. Lee: Great. Thanks for taking my question about Q4, the first one.

Dae K. Lee: Thank you guys have enough engagement.

Dae K. Lee: But I assume be coming to market.

Dae K. Lee: <unk> continues to grow so.

Dae K. Lee: And with what their strategy is today, yes.

Speaker Change: I have a follow up.

Dae K. Lee: Absolutely. So, Dae, it was kind of hard.

Speaker Change: Absolutely so that it was kind of hard to hear you, but I think you're asking about our consumer engagement strategy.

Dae K. Lee: Daye, it was kind of hard to hear you, but I think you're asking about our consumer engagement strategy.

Dae K. Lee: Yes.

Dae K. Lee: What is it today, and does that need to evolve going forward?

Dae K. Lee: What is it today and does that mean to evolve going forward.

Julia D. Hartz: Sure, absolutely. So, as we think about the intelligence we've gathered and the data we have in terms of what consumers want to go to, we're taking a category by category and market by market approach. So, I would describe our current strategy as being more granular today than it has been in the past with an increasing velocity of feedback loops and also ingesting and being able to process through things like generative.

Dae: Sure absolutely. So as we think about the intelligence, we have gathered and data we have in terms of what consumers want to go to we're taking a category by category market by market approach. So I would describe our current strategy as being more granular granular today than it has been in the past with an increasing.

Julia D. Hartz: The velocity of feedback loops and also in.

Julia D. Hartz: Ingesting and being able to process through things like generative AI important information that can allow us to engage more consumers programmatically, what I mean by that just to put it more simply than in Q1 terms is that we rolled out an ability to inge.

Julia D. Hartz: Important information that can allow us to engage more consumers programmatically. What I mean by that, just to put it more simply in Q1 terms, is that we rolled out an ability to ingest the data of searches and inquiries on the consumer side and be able to auto-tag events and create collections that then get spun back out for consumer engagement in curated discovery. We find that consumers are coming to Eventbrite, searching for something to do that's most likely aligned with their interests.

Julia D. Hartz: Ingest the data of searches and inquiries on the consumer side and be able to auto tag events and create collections that then get spun back out for consumer engagement and curated discovery, we find that consumers are coming to eventbrite.

Julia D. Hartz: Searching for something to do that's most likely are aligned with their interests. So we've also rolled out a new feature in our consumer App that allows you to search for events based on mood or revive N.

Julia D. Hartz: So, we've also rolled out a new feature in our consumer app that allows you to search for events based on mood or vibe, and we're using those contextual tags to be able to build out new collections that then we can promote through our SEO channels. So, we're thinking about how we filter the most relevant events for consumers based on their search parameters. But we're also taking advantage of the data that we have in terms of what they're looking for to drive targeted acquisition, meaning we're feeding that data into our sales team.

Julia D. Hartz: And we're using those contextual tags to be able to build out new collections that then we can promote through our Seo channels. So we're thinking about how we filter to the top are the most relevant.

Julia D. Hartz: All event events for our consumers based on their search parameters, but we're also taking advantage of the data that we have in terms of what they're looking for to drive targeted acquisition, meaning we're feeding that data into our sales team. We're having them go often most important consumer popular events and the categories that we know that matter.

Julia D. Hartz: We're having them go after the most important consumer popular events in the categories that we know that matter in the markets that we care about. We're refeeding that into our performance marketing strategy, our SEO strategy, and really driving that self-sign on growth through a more targeted approach. In the future, as we build out more capability and engagement in things like our consumer app surface area, we're going to be looking at how we can lean more heavily on social and network effects to drive more of that increased engagement.

Julia D. Hartz: And our ACO strategy, and really driving that cell phone on growth through a more targeted approach in the future as we build out more capability and engagement in things like our consumer App surface area, we're going to be looking at how we can lean more heavily on social and network effects to drive more of that increased engagement and.

Julia D. Hartz: And that will be measured by frequency of consumer visit and tickets purchased through consumers. So, if I step all the way back and think about our strategy over the next 3 years, it's really to. Amass the amount of intelligence on consumers that we have on the creators that are serving them and be able to drive better demand generation and relevance in that consumer population to really build out the two-sided market. By day, I would just.

Julia D. Hartz: That will be measured by.

Julia D. Hartz: Frequency of consumer visit and tickets purchased through consumer so if I step all the way back and think about our strategy over the next three years, it's really too.

Julia D. Hartz: Masked the amount of intelligence on consumers that we have on the creators that are serving them and be able to drive better demand generation and relevance in that consumer population to really build out the second the two sided marketplace.

Charles C. Baker: Yeah, I would just add to that one of the things that I think [inaudible] marketing, by the shows that they're putting on, by the events that they're putting on, by the franchises that they have. 50% of the ticket buyers are coming in.

Speaker Change: Yeah, I would just add to that that.

Speaker Change: One of the I think.

Speaker Change: Occasionally sort of under recognized attributes of our business is that 50% of the ticket sales in the marketplace are brought in by the creators marketing by the shows that they are putting on by the events that they're putting on by the by the franchises that they have 50% of the ticket buyers are coming in and.

Charles C. Baker: And I guess you could look at that from the consumer side, half of our consumer acquisition has a negative customer acquisition cost because we're generating revenue on each one of those customer introduction opportunities. That's particularly true with the large, high-value creators I was talking about a moment ago. And then our job to be done is, well, we've been introduced to these event-going consumers, and to build a franchise that is the place they come back to or that we can bring them back to for their next experience and to recirculate and re-engage that demand.

Speaker Change: And I guess, you could look at that as almost from a consumer side half of our consumer acquisition is has a negative customer acquisition cost because we're generating revenue on each one of those customer introduction opportunities, that's particularly true with the large high value creators I was talking about a moment ago and then R. R.

Charles C. Baker: Our job to be done then as well we've been introduced to these events going consumers and to build a franchise that is the place they come back to or that we can bring them back to for their next experience and the re circulated and reengage that that demand. So.

Charles C. Baker: So there's an interesting dynamic in our marketplace, and that is that it's the presence of consumers that can draw in the creators. And when the creators come in, they bring more consumers in, and those incremental consumers become potential ticket buyers for everybody else, and you get a flywheel effect. And so I think that's really central to where we are today and where we will be in the future in terms of our consumer strategy.

Charles C. Baker: There's an interesting dynamic in our marketplace and that is that it's the presence of consumers that can draw in the creators and when the creators come in they bring more consumers in and those those incremental consumers become potential ticket buyers for everybody else and you got the fly.

Dae K. Lee: It's very helpful. And then I guess a follow-up for you, Lani. Your growth margins have kind of been at or above your long-term target for two quarters now, so I was curious if there are any updated thoughts on how growth margins should be trending going forward.

Speaker Change: Gross margins its kind of.

Charles C. Baker: We haven't updated our long-term target. But as we said, as we've now surpassed 10% of revenue, 13% in this quarter coming from marketplace, and we've taken some steps to manage the more fixed elements within the cost of revenue, I think we have shifted the gross margins of the business structurally higher. And it's exciting to see because just a few years ago, we were in the low 60s. We've made a tremendous amount of progress.

Charles C. Baker: But as we said as the as we've now surpassed 10% of revenue, 13% in this quarter coming from marketplace and we've taken some steps.

Charles C. Baker: We I think we have shifted the gross margins of the business structurally higher and it's exciting to see because just a few years ago. We were in the low sixty's, we've made a tremendous amount of progress.

Speaker Change: I think as we look across the course of this year the level that we've been at is probably the right place to expect for for coming quarters. That's what we're planning for.

Charles C. Baker: I think, as we look across the course of this year, the level that we've been at is probably the right place to expect for the coming quarters. That's what we're planning for. But I think, looping back to one of the earlier questions about the take rate, the opportunity to drive the take rate higher, and gross margins higher in the long term really is about capitalizing on the marketplace and demand generation problem.

Charles C. Baker: But I think looping back to one of the earlier questions about the take rate.

Charles C. Baker: The opportunity to drive the take rate higher the gross margins higher than the long term really is about capitalizing on the marketplace and demand generation proposition.

Hamed Khorsand: Namaste. Thank you. Thank you. Your next question is from Hamed Khorsand from BWS Financial. Please ask your question.

Hamed Khorsand: Thank you. Your next question is from Amit <unk> from AWS financial Please ask your question.

Hamed Khorsand: Hi, so first off, could you just talk about a little bit more? You know,

Hamed Khorsand: Hi, So first off could you just talk about that.

Hamed Khorsand: A little bit more.

Hamed Khorsand: Stats about the new.

Charles C. Baker: Well, we added about 92,000 new creators during the first quarter. And when you look at a number that that's big, that is that big, it's going to match pretty well the overall nature, just by the law of large numbers, of our creator base. So I don't think there's been any big change in terms of size or scale. I think that one place where we've picked up momentum over the last several quarters is amongst the larger, high-value creators who do the larger events we've been talking about.

Hamed Khorsand: Well.

Hamed Khorsand: So we added about 92000, new creators during the first quarter and the when you look at a number that that's big that is.

Charles C. Baker: It's going to match pretty well the overall nature just by the law of large numbers of our creator base. So I don't think theres been any big change in terms of the size of our scale I think that one place from a where we've picked up momentum over the last several quarters is amongst the larger high value creators, who do the larger events.

Charles C. Baker: And, you know, and those are, we have many of those on our platform; the slight majority of them come through sales; a surprisingly large number of them come as self-sign-on customers, even in that large cohort. But it's an area where we've really made some progress. And what are you seeing as far?

Charles C. Baker: We've been talking about.

Charles C. Baker: Those are we.

Charles C. Baker: Slight majority of them come through sales are surprisingly large number of them come as self sign on customers even in that large cohort.

Charles C. Baker: But it's an area, where we've really made some progress.

Charles C. Baker: And what are you seeing as far as the actual consumers on the marketplace.

Charles C. Baker: Sure, so the ticket fees that we changed on the consumer side were at the beginning of last year, where we made a modest price increase to the overall Eventbrite ticket fee. We averaged about 50 cents per ticket, so it was fairly modest, and it was absorbed well by consumers. About 80% of the ticket fees are paid for by consumers; the other 20% of the time, it's absorbed by the creator, and so, you know, it really is a consumer-facing price, whereas the marketplace fee that we introduced in late 2023 is solely on the creator side.

Speaker Change: Sure. So the ticket fees that we changed on the consumer side. We're at the beginning of last year, where we made a modest price increase to the overall eventbrite ticket fee.

Charles C. Baker: Averaged about 50 cents per ticket. So it was a fairly modest and it was absorbed well by consumers about 80% of the ticket fees are paid for by consumers. The other 20% of the time, it's absorbed by the creator and so it really is a consumer facing.

Charles C. Baker: Price, whereas the marketplace fee that we've introduced in late 2023 is solely on the creator side in terms of consumer behavior not much has shifted over the past quarter or so we're seeing about the same volume of tickets per consumer it's remained.

Julia D. Hartz: In terms of consumer behavior, not much has shifted over the past quarter or so. We're seeing about the same volume of tickets per consumer, it's remained quite steady, and we're seeing the categories that they're wanting to attend also remain quite steady. We, you know, have strong growth in music, performing arts, food and drink, and also business events, as people are getting together more and more to network and to skill build and to, you know, come together for company events, and, you know, we see sort of new trending events all of the time, we're seeing certainly a sort of tenth coming in terms of dating events and people wanting to meet their significant other through events, but nothing structurally has shifted from the consumer side and their buying behavior has remained quite consistent.

Julia D. Hartz: <unk> steady and we're seeing the categories that they're wanting to attend also remained quite steady we have strong growth in music performing arts food and drink and also business events as people are getting together more and more to network into scale build and Hugh you know come together for company events.

Julia D. Hartz: And we see sort of do trending events all of the time, we're seeing certainly at a sort of 10th coming in terms of a dating events and people wanting to meet their significant another through events, but nothing structurally has shifted from the consumer side and their buying behavior has remained.

Julia D. Hartz: Quite consistent.

Speaker Change: Great. Thank you.

Hamed Khorsand: Thank you. Your next question is from Youssef Squali from Truist Securities. Please ask your question. Oh, hey.

Julia D. Hartz: Thank you. Your next question is from Youssef Squali from <unk> Securities. Please ask your question.

Youssef Houssaini Squali: Oh, hey, thanks for taking the follow-on. Actually, one is really just clarification, and then the follow-up is a real question. So, Lenny, can you just go over what you said in terms of your expectation for pay ticket volume growth later in the year? I think you made some commentary about the year.

Youssef Houssaini Squali: Oh, Hey, thanks for taking the follow on.

Youssef Houssaini Squali: One is really just clarification.

Youssef Houssaini Squali: And then the follow up is your real question. So Larry can you just go over what you said in terms of your expectations for paid ticket volume growth later in the year I think in that commentary.

Youssef Houssaini Squali: And then on the marketplace revenues, Obviously, I think the traction you guys have shown has been pretty impressive. Is there an upper limit to how high they can get to as a percentage of revenues? And the reason I'm asking is to also see if there is any required investment that you guys need to do to scale that business beyond, say, the machines that it's running already at. Thank you.

Youssef Houssaini Squali: The year and then.

Youssef Houssaini Squali: On the marketplace revenues.

Youssef Houssaini Squali: Obviously I think the traction you guys have shown has been pretty impressive.

Youssef Houssaini Squali: Is there an upper limit to how high they can get to as a percentage of revenue than the reason I'm asking is to also see if there is any required investments that you guys need to do to to scale that business beyond say.

Youssef Houssaini Squali: The mid teens that it's running already yet thank you.

Youssef Houssaini Squali: Sure.

Charles C. Baker: What we said about paid ticket volume is that for the year, we expect paid ticket volume to be down slightly to up modestly for the full year versus the full year 2023. In the second quarter, we expect paid ticket volume to be down year-to-year, though at a lower rate than it was in the first quarter, the first quarter being down 8% year-over-year.

Youssef Houssaini Squali: But what we said about paid ticket volume is that for the year, we expect paid ticket volume to be down slightly to up modestly for the full year versus the full year 2023.

Charles C. Baker: In the second quarter, we expect paid ticket volume to be down year to year, though at a lower rate than it was in the first quarter to the first quarter being down 8% year over year.

Charles C. Baker: Hopefully, that gives you, [inaudible] One of the things that we look at is the percentage of ticket volume that was advertised in our marketplace. And we're two X where we were a year ago in terms of that penetration or coverage or engagement with the advertising product. It's a low double digit, high single digit, low double digit penetration right now.

Charles C. Baker: Hopefully that gives you time.

Charles C. Baker: The clarification.

Charles C. Baker: Yes.

Speaker Change: Thank you, yes on the on the marketplace revenue.

Charles C. Baker: We are one of the one of the things that we look at is the percentage of tick.

Charles C. Baker: Ticket volume that was advertised in our marketplace and.

Charles C. Baker: We're two X, where we were a year ago in terms of that penetration or coverage or engagement with the advertising product.

Charles C. Baker: It's a low double digit high single digit low double digit penetration right now.

Charles C. Baker: But we think, you know, we think ultimately there's an opportunity for, you know, a vast majority, the majority of creators in the marketplace to participate in Eventbrite ads. And right now, amongst the creators who are participating in Eventbrite ads, it represents a, you know, 20% plus increase in that per creator economics or per event. So there really are sort of our two main vectors there, which are coverage of the addressable events with relevant advertising opportunities. And then the performance of that advertising would draw more spending into our marketplace and give a relatively greater lift to the economy.

Charles C. Baker: But we think we think ultimately there is a.

Charles C. Baker: Opportunity for.

Charles C. Baker: A vast majority the majority of creators in the marketplace to participate in about bright ads and right now.

Charles C. Baker: Amongst the creators who are participating in eventbrite ads.

Charles C. Baker: It represents a 20% plus increase in the per creator economics or per event economics. So they really are sort of our two main vectors, there, which our coverage of the addressable events with relevant advertising opportunities.

Charles C. Baker: And then the performance of that advertising, drawing more spending into our marketplace and giving a relatively greater lift to the economics, we would otherwise see.

Charles C. Baker: Okay, yeah, that's helpful. You asked about the investment. Yes, there's a required investment. There is a required investment in everything that we do. But we are purposeful about when we open up big new opportunities like consumer, like ads, also turning back to the base of the business and saying, what can we do more efficiently? And you saw us take steps there last year to do that, really pry up some investment money that's been reallocated and reapplied in other directions. So yes, we'll continue to fund that investment. I think we will manage that within a reasonable overall envelope that fits with our long-term profit margin targets.

Speaker Change: Okay. Yeah, that's helpful. Yes.

Charles C. Baker: You asked about divestments.

Charles C. Baker: But yes.

Charles C. Baker: Yes, theres required investment there's a required investment in everything that we do but we are being purposeful about when we open up big new opportunities like consumer like ads.

Charles C. Baker: Also turning back to the base of the business and say what can we do more efficiently and you saw us take steps there last year to do that really probably up some investment money, that's been reallocated and reapplied in other directions. So yes, we will continue to fund that investment I think.

Charles C. Baker: We'll manage that within a reasonable overall envelope that fits with our long term profit margin targets.

Speaker Change: Okay. Thank.

Speaker Change: Thank you.

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Speaker Change: Thank you.

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