Q2 2024 Devon Energy Corp Earnings Call

August 7, 2024

Welcome to Devon Energy's second quarter 2024 conference call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. This call is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mrs. Rosie Zuklick, Vice President of Investor Relations. You may begin.

Operator: At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. This call is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mrs. Rosie Zuklick, Vice President of Investor Relations. You may begin.

Rosie Zuklick: Good morning, and thank you for joining us on the call today. Last night, we issued Devon's second quarter earnings release and presentation materials. Throughout the call today, we will make references to these materials to support prepared remarks. Joining me on the call today are Rick Muncrief, President and CEO; Clay Gaspar, Chief Operating Officer; Jeff Ritenour, Chief Financial Officer; and David Harris, Chief Corporate Development Officer. As a reminder, this conference call will include forward-looking statements as defined under U.S. securities laws.

Speaker Change: Good morning and thank you for joining us on the call today. Last night we issued Devon's second quarter earnings release and presentation materials.

Speaker Change: Throughout the call today, we will make references to these materials to support prepared remarks. The release and slides can be found in the Investor section of the Devon website.

Speaker Change: Joining me on the call today are Rick Muncrief, President and CEO , Clay Gaspar, Chief Operating Officer, Jeffrey Ritenour, Chief Financial Officer, and David Harris, Chief Corporate Development Officer.

Speaker Change: As a reminder, this conference call will include forward-looking statements as defined under U.S. securities laws. These statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from our forecast.

Rosie Zuklick: These statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from our forecast. Please refer to the cautionary language and risk factors provided in our SEC filings and earnings materials. With that, I'll turn the call over to Rick.

Speaker Change: Please refer to the cautionary language and risk factors provided in our SEC filings and earnings materials.

Rick Muncrief: Thank you, Rosie. It's a pleasure to be here today. We appreciate everyone taking the time to join us. By all measures, the second quarter was another excellent performance for Devon as our business continued to strengthen and build momentum. Our quarterly results were driven by our Delaware-focused operating plan, which led to record oil production, expanding EBITDA, and another round of strong cash returns to shareholders. Additionally, our effective cost management resulted in capital coming in well below expectations.

Speaker Change: With that, I'll turn the call over to Rick.

Rick Muncrief: Thank you, Rosie. It's a pleasure to be here today. We appreciate everyone taking the time to join us.

Rick Muncrief: We also took important steps to strengthen the quality and depth of our asset portfolio with the accretive acquisition of Grayson Mill. All in all, it was another quarter of systematic execution that advanced both the financial and operational tenets of our strategic plan. Now, let's begin on slide 7 by covering a few of our second quarter highlights and operating trends in greater detail.

Rick Muncrief: By all measures, the second quarter was another excellent performance for Devon as our business continued to strengthen and build momentum.

Rick Muncrief: Our quarterly results were driven by our Delaware-focused operating plan, which led to record oil production, expanding EBITDA, and another round of strong cash returns to shareholders. Additionally, our effective cost management resulted in capital coming in well below expectations.

Rick Muncrief: Now let's begin on slide seven by covering a few of our second quarter highlights and operating trends in greater detail.

Rick Muncrief: Beginning with production, we once again surpassed guidance expectations by a wide margin with our per share volumes growing at a healthy clip of nine percent year over year. This attractive per share growth rate was driven by oil production reaching a record high for us, of 335,000 barrels of oil per day. A strong base production from our legacy Williston position also contributed to our volume B this quarter. The team also continued to do a great job across the portfolio in controlling costs, with capital and operating costs coming in well below guidance for the quarter.

Rick Muncrief: Beginning with production, we once again surpassed guidance expectations by a wide margin, with our per share volume growing at a healthy clip of 9% year over year. This attractive per share growth rate was driven by oil production reaching a record high for us.

Rick Muncrief: of 335,000 barrels of oil per day, coupled with the benefits of our sustained stock repurchase efforts throughout the year.

Rick Muncrief: By leveraging the benefits of a temporary fourth frack crew, we were able to bring online 62 new Delaware Basin wells in the quarter. Well productivity from this batch of wells was once again outstanding, with per-well recoveries on track to achieve a greater than 10% uplift compared to last year's program.

Rick Muncrief: Looking beyond the Delaware, redevelopment success in the Eagleford, appraisal progress in the Powder River Basin.

Rick Muncrief: and a strong base production from our legacy Williston position also contributed to our Volume B this quarter. The team also continued to do a great job across the portfolio in controlling costs, with capital and operating costs coming in well below guidance for the quarter.

Rick Muncrief: A strong cost performance was driven by effective supply chain management and improving cycle times that resulted in multiple drilling and completion records across our asset portfolio. These efficiencies not only accrue to us in the form of lower well costs but also save us valuable time, further bolstering our project level return. Now, with this operational performance, we're pleased to raise our production guidance for the second time this year. Our improved outlook is driven entirely by our legacy portfolio.

Rick Muncrief: Importantly, these efficiencies not only accrue to us in the form of lower well costs, but also save us valuable time and further bolstering our project level returns.

Rick Muncrief: Now, with this operational performance, we're pleased to raise our production guidance for the second time this year.

Rick Muncrief: The improved outlook is driven entirely by our legacy portfolio. We now expect to produce more than 680,000 BOE per day in 2024, which represents a 5% increase compared to our initial budget expectations heading into the year.

Rick Muncrief: We now expect to produce more than 680,000 BOE per day in 2024, which represents a 5% increase compared to our initial budget expectation heading into the year. In addition, our outlook was further strengthened by the Grayson Mill acquisition of Willison Basin, with average daily rates estimated at around 375,000 barrels of oil per day. This transaction nearly triples our production and expands our inventory in the Williston Basin. At the current pace of development, we have about 10 years of Bakken project inventory.

Rick Muncrief: In addition, our outlook was further strengthened by the Grayson Mill acquisition of Williston Basin.

Rick Muncrief: These assets are an excellent addition to our portfolio, fitting perfectly within our broader strategic framework to accumulate resource and grow oil-weighted production in the best parts of the top U.S. shale plays.

Rick Muncrief: Upon completion of the transaction, Devon will be one of the largest oil producers in the U.S. with average daily rates estimated at around 375,000 barrels of oil per day.

Rick Muncrief: This transaction nearly triples our production and expands our inventory in the Williston Basin.

Rick Muncrief: At the current pace of development, we have about 10 years of Bakken project inventory. This vast improvement in operating scale places Devon in a great position to harvest high margin production from this prolific oil field for many years to come.

Rick Muncrief: It's also important to note that our geoscience team is really encouraged about having an additional 300,000 net acre position to evaluate for future development opportunities over the next several decades.

Rick Muncrief: We see significant financial value created from this acquisition and expect sustainable accretion to earnings and free cash flow. Given the strength of this transaction, we've expanded our share repurchase program by 67 percent to five billion dollars. Our legacy portfolio and key U.S. basins will provide a solid foundation for us to continue the momentum we've demonstrated so far this year. We will provide detailed guidance in the coming months as our planning process matures, but I'm confident that Devon will have one of the more advantageous outlooks in 2025 of any E&P company out there. And with that, I'll now turn the call over to Clay. Okay?

Rick Muncrief: We see significant financial value created from this acquisition. We expect sustainable accretion to earnings and free cash flow.

Rick Muncrief: Given the strength of this transaction, we've expanded our share repurchase program by 67 percent to $5 billion.

Rick Muncrief: This increased authorization provides a sample capacity to continue to opportunist...

Rick Muncrief: Tenistically, we purchase our stock and bolster our per share growth trajectory for the next few years. We expect free cash flow from this acquisition to be additive to our dividend payout in 2025 and beyond.

Rick Muncrief: And lastly, as I look ahead, the outlook for Devon in 2025 is shaping up to be exceptionally strong. With the Grayson acquisition, we are now positioned to deliver healthy double-digit growth in both oil and free cash flow next year.

Rick Muncrief: Our legacy portfolio in key U.S. basins will provide a solid foundation for us to continue the momentum we've demonstrated so far this year.

Rick Muncrief: We will provide detailed guidance in the coming months as our planning process matures, but I'm confident that Devon will have one of the more advantaged outlooks in 2025 of any E&P company out there.

Clay Gaspar: Thank you, Rick. Good morning, everyone.

Rick Muncrief: And with that, I'll now turn the call over to Clay. Clay?

Clay Gaspar: Thank you, Rick. Good morning, everyone. Our team delivered another round of impressive operating results in the second quarter.

Clay Gaspar: feeding our guide and the street and raising full year expectations as illustrated on slide 12.

Clay Gaspar: Our team delivered another round of impressive operating results in the second quarter, beating our guide and the street and raising full-year expectations, as illustrated on slide 12. I want to congratulate the entire organization, along with our service company partners, for not only achieving these outstanding production and financial results but also their commitment to safety and our environmental standards. In the second quarter, this asset achieved record-high production, reaching 461,000 BOE per day, which represents a 5% growth rate compared to the previous quarter.

Clay Gaspar: I want to congratulate the entire organization, along with our service company partners, for not only achieving these outstanding production and financial results, but also for the success of the company.

Clay Gaspar: but also their commitment to safety and our environmental standards.

Speaker Change: Let's start with slide 8 with our franchise asset, the Delaware Basin, which drove our strong outperformance. In the second quarter, this asset achieved record high production, reaching 461,000 BOE per day, which represents a 5% growth rate compared to the previous quarter.

Clay Gaspar: In a bit, I'll talk more about the operational improvements that we are achieving on the drilling and completions front. But first, I want to clarify that this production beat is almost entirely driven by our outperformance of the new wells and base production. The impact of drilling and completing a bit faster adds considerable value to each well's project economics, but this timing doesn't typically add much to an individual quarter's production. As Rick mentioned earlier, we brought online more than 60 wells during the quarter.

Speaker Change: In a bit, I'll talk more about the operational improvements that we are achieving on the drilling and completions front, but first I want to clarify that this production beat is almost entirely driven by our outperformance of the new wells and the base production.

Speaker Change: The impact of drilling and completing a bit faster adds considerable value to each well's project economics, but this timing doesn't typically add much to an individual quarter's production.

Speaker Change: As Rick mentioned earlier, we brought online more than 60 wells during the quarter. These wells were diversified across our asset footprint, primarily targeting the stacked pay within the Wolf Camp Formation. In aggregate, these projects achieved average 30-day rates of more than 2,800 BOE per day.

Clay Gaspar: These wells were diversified across our asset footprint, primarily targeting the stacked pay within the Wolf Camp formation. In aggregate, these projects achieved average 30-day rates of more than 2,800 BOE per day, with recoveries projected to exceed $1.3 million VOE per well.

Speaker Change: with recoveries projected to exceed 1.3 million BOE per well. With improving well costs and impressive performance, I'm confident that this batch of high-impact projects is delivering some of the best returns in the entire U.S.

Clay Gaspar: With improving well costs and impressive performance, I'm confident that this batch of high-impact projects is delivering some of the best returns in the entire US. Given the operational momentum we've achieved so far this year, it's no surprise that Delaware is the driving force behind the company's improved production outlook. As I mentioned earlier, the key factors for this improvement are the excellent well productivity from this year's IDs, as well as impressive base production performance.

Speaker Change: Given the operational momentum we've achieved so far this year, it's no surprise that Delaware is the driving force behind the company's improved production outlook.

Speaker Change: As I mentioned earlier, the key factors for this improvement is the excellent well productivity from this year's IDs, as well as impressive base production performance.

Clay Gaspar: As shown on the left-hand side of slide 9, we are firmly on track to improve our performance by more than 10% year-over-year. An important driver of this improvement is the easing of infrastructure constraints in New Mexico, which has enabled us to increase capital investments in areas where we have the most extensive runway of high-quality inventory. Additionally, the continued optimization of our well design and the successful co-development of intervals in Wolf Camp A and B formations have been highly impactful.

Speaker Change: As shown on the left-hand side of slide 9, we are firmly on track to improve our performance by more than 10% year-over-year.

Speaker Change: An important driver of this improvement is the easing of infrastructure constraints in New Mexico, which has enabled us to increase capital investments in areas that we have the most extensive runway of high-quality inventory.

Speaker Change: Additionally, the continued optimization of our well design and the successful co-development of intervals in Wolf Camp A and B formations

Clay Gaspar: This impressive start for the year has positioned us among the top performers in the basin. As illustrated on the right side of slide nine, our Delaware wells have consistently ranked in the top quartile of our industry peers. This superior well productivity reflects not only the quality of our resource base but also the team's keen focus on operational excellence and performance optimization. Turning to slide 10, we illustrate the impressive operating efficiencies we continue to achieve in Delaware.

Speaker Change: have been highly impactful. This impressive start for the year has positioned us among the top performers in the basin. As illustrated on the right side of slide 9, our Delaware wells have consistently ranked in the top quartile of our industry peers.

Speaker Change: This superior well productivity not only

Speaker Change: reflects not only the quality of our resource base but also the team's keen focus on operational excellence and performance optimization.

Speaker Change: Turning to slide 10, we illustrate the impressive operating efficiencies we continue to achieve in the Delaware.

Clay Gaspar: From a drilling perspective, our team has achieved a 12% efficiency gain year-over-year and is continually exploring ways to optimize our rig fleet and the associated drilling services. Additionally, the team is innovating across the entire drilling system from the bit to the crown block. We are working on technological applications in the realm of downhole sensing to improve well placement, casing design innovations, and overall flat time reduction, including tripping and connection practices and offline operations.

Speaker Change: From a drilling perspective, our team has achieved a 12 percent efficiency gain year over year, and it's continually exploring ways to optimize our rig fleet and the associated drilling services. Additionally, the team is innovating across the entire drilling system, from the bit to the crown block.

Speaker Change: We are working on technological applications in the realm of downhole sensing to improve well placement, casing design innovations, and overall flat-time reduction, including tripping and connection practices and offline operations.

Clay Gaspar: On the completions front, we have delivered a 6% improvement year-to-date on top of the 10% improvement from last year. Now, let's turn to our other key assets in the Eagleford, Anadarko Basin, and Powder River Basin. In Eagleford, production growth was driven by strong redevelopment results in DeWitt County, where average 30-day rates from this 15-well program consistently exceed 3,000 BOE per day per well. And Anadarko, our capital program driven by our joint venture with Dow, delivered both solid returns and double-digit production growth in the quarter, with Dow will support Anadarko activity through most of next year. Furthermore, we're evaluating opportunities to expand this In the Powder River, our team is making significant strides in assessing the Niobrara development in Converse County.

Speaker Change: On the completions front, we have delivered a 6% improvement year-to-date on top of the 10% improvement from last year.

Speaker Change: This step change was significantly influenced by incorporating fit-for-purpose simulfrac operations across our development programs.

Speaker Change: Further, our continued application of leading-edge reservoir and frac modeling has allowed us to refine our stimulation designs, improving well cost and, more importantly, well productivity.

Speaker Change: Now let's turn to our other key assets in the Eagleford, Anadarko Basin, and Powder River Basins.

Speaker Change: In the Eagleford, production growth was driven by strong redevelopment results in DeWitt County, where average 30-day rates from this 15-well program consistently exceeds 3,000 BOE per day per well.

Clay Gaspar: Over the last 18 months, the team's focus on subsurface technical applications has resulted in higher productivity and has continued to bolster our confidence in this asset. The next step in POWDR is to refine development spacing across a very large play fairway and continue to reduce well costs as we move towards more development-oriented activities. We have identified material improvements that are shaping up to be needle movers for this important future development for Devon.

Speaker Change: We have identified material improvements that are shaping up to be needle movers for this important future development for Devon.

Clay Gaspar: Moving to the Williston Basin, as Rick touched on earlier, the Grayson Mill acquisition is transformative to our position in the basin, and we will be adding incremental leaseholds over 300,000 net acres with 500 undrilled Bakken and Three Forks locations. Upon completion of the transaction, we expect to maintain an oil-weighted production of around 100,000 BOE per day. We expect to manage these assets to allow for a more substantial long-term production profile. Looking ahead, once we formalize our 2025 capital budget, we plan to provide an update on our optimized development strategy for this asset, which will include a combination of two and three-mile laterals, supplemented by tactical refracts that will enhance our base production.

Speaker Change: Looking ahead, once we formalize our 2025 capital budget, we plan to provide an update on our optimized development strategy for this asset, which will include a combination of two and three monolaterals, supplemented by tactical refracts that will enhance our base production.

Clay Gaspar: We expect to operate a consistent three-rig program across our entire Williston Basin Anchorage position, allowing us to benefit from operational efficiencies in the field. In summary, I look forward to a successful Grayson Mill integration and continuing to deliver industry-leading results. With that, I'll turn the call over to Jeff for a financial review. Jeff?

Speaker Change: We expect to operate a consistent three-rig program across our entire Williston Basin acreage position, allowing us to benefit from operational efficiencies in the field.

Speaker Change: In summary, I look forward to a successful Grayson Mill integration and continue to deliver industry-leading results. With that, I'll turn the call over to Jeff for a financial review. Jeff?

Jeff: Thanks, Clay. Beginning with the second quarter financial performance, Devon's core earnings significantly expanded year-over-year and totaled $885 million or $1.41 per share.

Jeff: This level of earnings translated into operating cash flow of $1.5 billion, a 9% increase year-over-year.

Jeff Ritenour: Consistent with our disciplined cash return framework, we returned approximately 70% of excess free cash flow to shareholders through a combination of buybacks and dividends. Given the compelling valuation of our equity, cash returns are skewed towards share repurchases over the variable dividend. We bought back 5.2 million shares for $256 million during the quarter. This distribution will be paid at the end of September.

Jeff: Given the compelling valuation of our equity, cash returns are skewed towards share repurchases over the variable dividend. We bought back 5.2 million shares for $256 million during the quarter.

Jeff: In addition to our share repurchase program, our board declared a fixed plus variable dividend payout of 44 cents per share.

Jeff Ritenour: Overall, we believe the flexibility of our cash return strategy provides us the opportunity to return meaningful and appropriate amounts of cash to shareholders across a variety of market conditions through the cycle. With the recent market volatility and pullback in our equity price, we'll continue to bias cash returns to share repurchases relative to the variable dividend. Looking ahead, we expect another strong performance in the third quarter, with oil production forecasted to average 322,000 barrels per day.

Jeff: Overall, we believe the flexibility of our cash return strategy provides us the opportunity to return meaningful and appropriate amounts of cash to shareholders across a variety of market conditions through the cycle.

Jeff: With the recent market volatility and pullback in our equity price, we'll continue to bias cash returns to share repurchases relative to the variable dividend.

Jeff: Looking ahead, we expect another strong performance in the third quarter with oil production forecasted to average 322,000 barrels per day.

Jeff Ritenour: On the capital front, we anticipate spending in the third quarter to remain essentially flat versus the prior period at around $900 million before moving lower in the fourth quarter. For the full year, our production forecast continues to trend higher while adhering to our original capital investment plan, albeit in the upper half of the guidance range with continued operational efficiencies pulling forward activity.

Jeff: On the capital front, we anticipate spending in the third quarter to remain essentially flat versus the prior period at around $900 million before moving lower in the fourth quarter.

Jeff: For the full year, our production forecast continues to trend higher, while adhering to our original capital investment plan, albeit in the upper half of the guidance range, with continued operational efficiencies pulling forward activity.

Jeff: Moving forward, we'll look to build upon our financial strength and we'll initiate a $2.5 billion debt reduction program. We expect to complete this debt reduction plan within the next few years and have flexibility with upcoming maturities and the anticipated term loan issuance.

Jeff Ritenour: Number one, we delivered an outstanding second quarter marked by record oil production, underpinned by excellent well productivity from our franchise asset, the Delaware-based Number four, this improved outlook is driving increased free cash flow, translating to higher cash returns for our shareholders.

Jeff: Number one, we delivered an outstanding second quarter marked by record oil production underpinned by excellent well productivity from our franchise asset, the Delaware Basin.

Jeff: Number two, effective cost management resulted in capital and operating expenses coming in below guidance due to efficient...

Jeff: Supply Chain Management and improve cycle times across the portfolio. Number three.

Jeff: A strong performance led us to raise our 2024 production guidance for the second consecutive quarter, now projecting to reach over 680,000 BOE per day, an impressive 5% increase from original expectations.

Jeff: Number four, this improved outlook is driving increased free cash flow, translating to higher cash returns for our shareholders.

Jeff: Giving our equities value proposition, we believe prioritizing share repurchases is the best course of action.

Jeff: And with that, I'll now turn the call back over to Rosie for Q&A. Thank you, Rick.

Jeff: Emily, we will now open the call to Q&A. I ask that all of you asking questions to please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. And with that, we will take our first question.

Operator: Thank you. Our first question today comes from Arun Jayaram with J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.

Speaker Change: Thank you. Our first question today comes from Arun Jayaram with J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.

Arun Jayaram: Yeah, good morning. My first question is just how to think about activity in the second half of the year on a Devon stand-alone basis.

Arun Jayaram: Your original till guide was 375 to 430, and the company completed 216 tills in the first half.

Speaker Change: which would kind of, if you annualize that, place you towards the upper end of that range, but obviously you've suspended the fourth frac crew. So just trying to think about how activity trends could play out in the second half of the year, particularly in the Delaware.

Speaker Change: Hey, thanks for the question, Arun. This is Clay. Yeah, so you nailed it. The first half of the year was benefited by the fourth frack crew.

Speaker Change: Now interestingly, we moved that frack crew in and out a little quicker than the original plan, so you saw some second quarter capital benefit from that.

Speaker Change: But I would say, to the heart of your question, it's a little bit front end weighted, but relatively flat over the course of the year, and so we'll benefit from that fourth frac crew in the front half, we get a little bit of benefit of depressed capital in the second half, that should balance things out nicely.

Arun Jayaram: And, Clay, just a quick follow-up on that: the working interest has been moving around a little bit in Delaware. Any thoughts on the projects and what the working interest will look like in the second half?

Clay Gaspar: And Clay, just a quick follow-up on that is the working interest has been moving around a little bit in the Delaware. Any thoughts on the projects and what the working interest will look like in the second half? And I have one follow-up.

Speaker Change: Sure, it definitely affects the capital, but we try and manage that through the year. I can tell you it's hard to manage that in addition to all the other important levers. And so as we march through the year, we could actually see a little bit of a step up in the capital.

Speaker Change: in the first quarter. Well, first quarter, we had a little bit of a step up. So, second half, we'll have a little bit lighter working interest.

Speaker Change: Okay, just to follow up, I know you're not ready to put 2025 Outlook out there, but the capital program on a stand-alone basis has been running around $900 million or so the last

Clay Gaspar: So if we just annualize that, you get to 3.6 and you mentioned $600 million of incremental spending from Grayson Mill, is $4.2 billion a decent placeholder as we sit here today?

Speaker Change: Yeah, obviously too early to telegraph too much on 2025, but I get that it's part of your job to ask, so what I can tell you is directionally that's not too far off. What happens between now and the announcement of our budgeting process is we have a strategy session with the board in the next month.

Speaker Change: We'll talk about all kinds of different scenarios and really challenge ourselves, and then we refine it. We run internal sensitivities, and of course, we need to close on Grayson. We hope that that still lines up in the end of the third quarter, and then once we get that out, we'll be able to talk a little bit more holistically about where it fits in the overall project. So more to come on that, but I would say from the start.

Speaker Change: Directionally, you're not too far off.

Speaker Change: Great. Thanks a lot, Clay.

Operator: Our next question comes from Neal Mehta with Goldman Sachs. Neal, please go ahead.

Clay Gaspar: Appreciate it.

Speaker Change: Our next question comes from Neal Mehta with Goldman Sachs. Neal, please go ahead.

Neal Mehta: Good morning Rick and team. Just a follow up on Arun's question. It's more of a philosophical question that we've been asked by investors, which is operationally you guys continue to

Neal Mehta: or you could have kept the capital the same and beat the volume guide. Can you walk us through the decision tree of, you know, especially taking into account the macro?

Neal Mehta: How you came to the decision to maintain the CapEx, but to focus more on the volume side. I would imagine that's a freaky, casual, neutral decision, but curious on the perspective.

Rick Muncrief: Hey Neal, it's Rick. I'll start with that and head it off to Clay. You know, the reality is, I've seen time and time again over the last 40 years when you, things are looking good, only to have some kind of a downstream constraint, you know, surprise you, weather, whatever it may be.

Speaker Change: So, what we did is we decided volumes were looking really, really, really good. We stuck with our game plan, exceeded the expectations.

Speaker Change: and but we we did have some discussion around around that and and

Speaker Change: But we stuck with the plan, you saw the performance. I thought it was important also for us to show once again...

Speaker Change: When we talk about 10% uplift, we, you know, we...

Clay Gaspar: We talked about that for the Delaware position over 2023, what kind of performance we expected, and we wanted to deliver that, and I think the team did a phenomenal job doing that. So, Clay, why don't you provide a little more color, a little more detail? Yeah, Neal, great question, and I think it's pretty fundamental, you know, as we think about do we absorb those accelerations and kind of continue to

Neal Mehta: Yeah, Neal, great question, and I think it's pretty fundamental. You know, as we think about, do we absorb those accelerations and kind of continue to provide for the upside on production, or do we trim back? I would tell you there's a mixed bag.

Clay Gaspar: We are always, you know, way below the radar doing a lot of things. I mentioned the fourth frack crew. As that frack crew was able to develop its amount of work quicker, we were able to release that earlier. We've high-graded a couple of rigs. We've actually gapped a couple of rigs during the year. We continue to evaluate for the balance of the year, and certainly, as we look into 2025, what does this increased productivity per rig, per frack crew really mean? I think you have pointed out the right thing.

Clay Gaspar: provide to the upside on production, or do we trim back? I would tell you there's a mixed bag. We are always, you know, way below the radar doing a lot of things. I mentioned the fourth frack crew. As that frack crew...

Clay Gaspar: was able to develop its.

Clay Gaspar: amount of work quicker, we were able to release that earlier.

Clay Gaspar: We've high-graded a couple of rigs. We've actually gapped a couple of rigs during the year. We continue to evaluate for the balance of the year, and certainly, as we look into 2025, what does this increased productivity per rig, per frac crew, really mean?

Clay Gaspar: We're thinking more about capital. We're thinking about net wells, maybe more importantly, net footage that we're delivering, and how does that translate into the best value opportunity? We'll still continue to hold to our zero to five percent. I think we'll stay well inside that range, but we're on the winning side of this, right? We've got an improved cost structure accreting to better per well economics. The challenge is you drag a little bit more capital in, and that still remains to be seen.

Speaker Change: I think you pointed to the right thing. We're thinking more about capital. We're thinking about net...

Speaker Change: wells, maybe more importantly, net footage that we're delivering.

Speaker Change: And how does that translate into the best value opportunity? We'll still continue to hold to our zero to five percent. I think we'll stay well inside that range. But we're on the winning side of this, right? We've got improved cost structure accreting to better per well economics.

Clay Gaspar: How do we manage that? So far, so good. We're staying inside of our capital guide range. I feel good about that. More information to come on the balance of the year and how we shape things up for 2025.

Speaker Change: The challenge is you drag a little bit more capital in, and that still remains to be seen. How do we manage that? So far, so good. We're staying inside of our capital guide range. I feel good about that. More information to come on the balance of the year and how we shape things up for 2025.

Neal Mehta: That's really helpful. And then just the follow up on your perspective on the M&A market. Obviously, Grayson was an important step forward in building out your Bakken business.

Speaker Change: That's really helpful and then just the follow-up is on your perspective on the M&A market. Obviously Grayson was an important step forward as building out your Bakken business and getting the inventory to where you want to be.

Speaker Change: But do you see incremental opportunities as we look forward over the next year? Your just latest thoughts on the A&D market and how Devon fits into it.

Speaker Change: Hey Neal, you know our mantra has been and always will be that we

Neal Mehta: We'll always have our eyes open, but the reality is that we have, once again, a high bar.

Neal Mehta: And we're really laser-focused on getting Grayson Mill closed, getting it integrated, executing once it is integrated in the company. And so we'll see how that all plays out, but I can tell you we're all excited about it.

Rick Muncrief: Thanks, Rick. Thanks, Clay.

Rick Muncrief: Thank you.

Speaker Change: Our next question comes from Neal Dingmann with Truist. Please go ahead.

Speaker Change: and Clay Gaspar. Thank you. Thank you.

Neil Dingman: Good morning, guys. Really nice results. Rick, my first question is likely for you or Jeff.

Neil Dingman: who's won a ton of capital allocations, specifically.

Neil Dingman: Are you all thinking any differently today about the buybacks versus the variable dividend given, you know, still how cheap your stock is and how volatile the commodity market continues to be?

Jeff: Absolutely, Neal. It's something we talk about quite a bit. I'm going to have Jeff weigh in on this, but certainly the way our equity is priced, we just think it's a great opportunity right now to be leaning in on a buyback.

Jeff Ritenour: Jeff, won't you? Yeah, you bet. You know, I appreciate the question, and I know you're familiar with our financial framework. We are, you know, as Rick highlighted in his opening remarks and just there in his response to your question, we think the, you know, our bias is going to continue to be to lean in on the share repo. Our approach to that has been to be consistent, you know, quarter after quarter. We think somewhere in that $250 million kind of spend per quarter makes the most sense.

Jeff: Jeff, won't you? Yeah, you bet. You know, appreciate the question, and I know you're familiar with our financial framework. We're, you know, as Rick highlighted in his opening remarks and just there in his response to your question, we think the, you know, our bias is going to continue to be to lean in on the share repo. Our approach to that has been to be consistent, you know, quarter after quarter. We think somewhere in that $250 million kind of spend, you know, per quarter makes the most sense.

Jeff Ritenour: The variable dividend falls out of that, right, as a function of the free cash flow we generate in each period. And we take some of it back to the balance sheet. We make sure we're paying our fixed dividend and growing that over time, and then the balance is going to be dedicated to the share repurchase program. We're excited about Grayson Mill and getting that closed because that's going to add some incremental free cash flow, you know, to our company, which is going to allow us to think about even expanding upon that absolute amount of share repurchases that we do on a quarterly basis. So without question, the bias is going to continue to be towards the share repo given what we're seeing in the market right now.

Jeff: The variable dividend falls out of that, right, as a function of the free cash flow we generate in each period. We take some back to the balance sheet. We make sure we're paying our fixed dividend and growing that over time. And then the balance is going to be dedicated to the share repurchase program. We're excited about Grayson Mill and getting that closed because that's going to add some incremental free cash flow to our company, which is going to allow us to think about even expanding upon that absolute amount of share repurchases that we do on a quarterly basis. So without question, the bias is going to continue to be towards the share repo, given what we're seeing in the market right now.

Speaker Change: I'd love to hear that. And then my second question on the Anadarko and PRB plays...

Speaker Change: Specifically, maybe for Clay, just Clay, your thoughts or expectations for future activities to plays? It sounds like, based on your prepared remarks, you certainly believe Anadarko has.

Speaker Change: I'm just wondering how you sort of see these two plays compete against the Delaware and the soon-to-be-increased Bakken plays.

Jeff Ritenour: Thanks for the question, Neal. Yeah, I...

Speaker Change: Thanks for the question, Neal. Yeah, I think both of them are complementary assets.

Speaker Change: On the Powder River side, we think it's an important future piece of our business.

Speaker Change: And so we're investing in it kind of perspectively to really understand what's the right combination, what's the right approach, and really unlocking that very material, very oily potential for our future. So you're not going to see these kind of dominate our capital call, but they certainly have a place in the portfolio and continue to allow us to look for our future, build for our future.

Neil: Thanks, Neal.

Neil: Well said. Thanks, Clay.

Speaker Change: Our next question comes from Roger Read with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.

Roger Read: Yeah, thank you. Good morning.

Roger Read: Thank you.

Roger Read: Let me kind of pivot off your comment about share repurchases, and just for the record, we're all in favor of that.

Speaker Change: You've been inquisitive.

Speaker Change: If you were to do something...

Speaker Change: You know, larger acquisition wise, obviously starts to look at probably equity as a way to balance it. Just wondering what sort of

Speaker Change: metrics you would want to see in a transaction in order a large transaction that would make you think about using the equity versus share repos like what are we what should we think about is the key

Speaker Change: points there.

Speaker Change: Hey Roger, it's a great question. In our mind, the share repurchase, that share repo program, that's kind of our base case. That's what we know that we're going to be doing. And, you know, as far as the transactions, you can't always predict how that will play out for a number of factors, as you can understand.

Speaker Change: But I think that, I'm going to turn it over to Jeff, let him talk about some of the metrics, but certainly...

Jeff: Our track record has been that we absolutely have to have that accretion to make us a stronger company.

Jeff: with the acquisition, then without.

Jeff: Yeah, you bet. Roger, appreciate the question, and I'll echo...

Jeff: much of what Rick just said, which is that, you know, you all are familiar with our financial framework, and we've been, I think, pretty

Speaker Change: transparent as it relates to, you know, our thoughts around M&A and what's required for us to, you know, go out and capture incremental assets or think about, you know, merging with other companies, right? It's very much driven by that free cash flow accretion that we're looking for in any transaction. You're always going to hear me say that the balance sheet's a priority. You know, we're going to be very thoughtful about any transaction, what we do, what the impact that that has on our investment credit rating and what that looks like into the future. So those are going to be a few of the priorities. As it relates to whether or not we use equity in a transaction, that's very dependent upon the specific, you know, opportunity that we have in front of us, right? You know, our bias is always to buy back our shares and not issue shares wherever we can, but depending upon the specific...

Speaker Change: with today's program.

Kevin MacCurdy: That sounds great. And then I was wondering if I could follow up on the comment you made about the Bakken operations, the refracts, you know, we're hearing a lot more about that in terms of the Eagleford shale, but I was just curious, kind of what you have on tap in either the Bakken or the Eagleford, and then Roger, this is Clay. I appreciate the question.

Speaker Change: That sounds great. And then I was wondering if I could follow up on the comment, I believe you made it about the Bakken operations. The refracts, you know, we're hearing a lot more about that in terms of the Eagleford shale, but I was just curious kind of what you have on tap in either the Bakken or the Eagleford.

Speaker Change: If you could, what portion of CapEx, you know, percentage of CapEx is directed that way?

Speaker Change: in the Williston Basin. Then you flip to Grayson Mill and the Grayson Mill guys have done a fantastic job on some of these refracts. This is one area that we talk about synergies. How can we learn from what they've done specifically in the Williston?

Speaker Change: Thanks.

Speaker Change: Our next question comes from Scott Gruber with Citigroup. Please go ahead.

Scott Groover: Yes, good morning.

Scott Groover: Scott, you know, I like the way you started with thinking about well counts from spuds from initial deliveries.

Scott Groover: and really thinking about the cadence of that. As an earlier question came up, the net definitely plays into effect when you're talking about capital but also production rolls into that. I think the rig count really is kind of a byproduct of the great work that the teams are doing and our service company partners and making that equipment more and more efficient. So I would set the actual rig count aside a little bit and, you know, again, we do things when we high-grade rigs.

Scott Groover: Sometimes there's an opportunity to overlap, sometimes there's an opportunity to gap those rigs a little bit. Again, we are less focused on the day-to-day rig count and more focused on how do we maintain that expectation and always look to improve from a productivity and a capital efficiency standpoint.

Operator: And just shifting to the gas side, Matt Horn will be starting up here shortly.

Speaker Change: I got it.

Speaker Change: Do you see that impacting the market? Do you guys see risk that the oversupply of Waha gets transferred down to Houston Ship? You know, do you see a need to take out some more basis protection down at Houston Ship? How are you thinking about the impact on the market?

Speaker Change: Yeah, Scott, this is Jeff. I appreciate the question. Yeah, first of all, let me say we're excited to get Matterhorn online, and I think it's going to be a positive, obviously not just for Devon specifically, but the broader sector as we move more of those molecules away from the Waha hub.

Speaker Change: You know, you've also heard about Blackcomb coming on in the 2026 time frame. Again, we're excited to be part of that project and, again, further the movement to get the molecules, you know, away from Oaha. Specifically to Matterhorn, you know, from our standpoint, it absolutely is going to move molecules over to the Gulf Coast. We're hopeful to take advantage of the LNG pricing improvement that we'll see over time as those projects get built out. But you're right, there's absolutely a risk of some of that, you know, backup of molecules being transferred from Oaha over to Katy. And that's why we've also taken advantage of some other opportunities to move the molecules further away from Katy into Louisiana and beyond.

Speaker Change: The energy team's done a really great job of kind of thinking about the entire value chain and how we move these molecules to where we can get the highest realized price, because at the end of the day, that's what we're trying to accomplish. So we feel really good with the commitments that we've made and our ability to move the molecules around, not just over to the Gulf Coast, but outside of the Gulf Coast. If you think about our Oklahoma gas as another example, we have the ability to move that gas to the Southeast markets, where in the second quarter we were able to capture a premium to Henry Hub. So a lot of great work done by the marketing team, and I think we're well set up for the future.

Kalei Ackermine: Our next question comes from Kalei Ackermine with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Speaker Change: Our next question comes from Kalei Ackermine with Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead.

Kalei Ackermine: Hey, good morning guys. Rick, Clay, Jeff.

Kalei Ackermine: I want to ask on the black cone pipeline, and I'm going to tie it into some feedback that we get on Devon, which is that the inventory isn't sufficiently differentiated from peers.

Speaker Change: Yeah, you guys are one of the few companies that continue to sign up new pipe.

Speaker Change: Matterhorn, and now Blackcomb.

Speaker Change: And that's a real commitment. So my question is, as you think about meeting that obligation in second half 26, what's the base case to fill that pipeline? Is it with incremental gas? And if so, what does that infer about your Permian oil growth over this period?

Jeff: Yeah, this is Jeff again. I'll start and give you a little bit of color on how we think about making these firm commitments, and then Clay can speak further about our depth of inventory in the Delaware. But I like the way you started the question, which is, it begs the question, why are we making these pretty significant commitments if we're worried about our Delaware inventory position? And so that probably answers the question. But without a doubt, we believe we're going to continue to see gas production grow, obviously, in the Delaware Basin, as we continue to pursue our oil dedicated and oil commitments.

Jeff: Our commitment to drilling more and more oil projects in the Delaware Basin, we're going to continue to see that gas grow. And so that's why we think it's so important to help support these projects like Matterhorn and Blackcomb by making these volume commitments. So without question, we feel like we're going to have the ability to make our commitment on both Matterhorn and Blackcomb. And I'll flip it over to Clay, and he can talk a little bit more about the inventory and the position that we have there.

Clay Gaspar: Yeah, thanks for the question. I'll take the inventory piece and happy to talk about it.

Clay Gaspar: You know, something I remember 18 months ago, 12 months ago, when, you know, folks are worried that we are falling off the cliff and running out of inventory, and here we are producing some of the best.

Clay Gaspar: most productive wells.

Clay Gaspar: that we've ever produced and posted some fantastic numbers.

Clay Gaspar: I think our runway looks incredibly strong. I'll refer you to slide 11 where we have third-party data looking at the inventory, not just ourselves.

Clay Gaspar: but of our pure companies.

Clay Gaspar: And again, our team does an amazing job of trying to unlock that white part of the bar on those curves, which is the upside potential. And as we drive down these costs and improve the efficiencies,

Clay Gaspar: slightly improve on those recovery factors, eek out a little bit more of those resources, that white spot becomes more of a gray, and then it becomes really part of that

Clay Gaspar: in-hand inventory. And so we literally have thousands of wells ahead of us. We feel really good about our Delaware Basin activity. We feel so good that we're certainly willing to sign long-term deals, and underwrite these pipes that desperately need to be in place. And I think that just underscores our commitment to this area and our confidence in the position that we're in. Thanks again for that question.

Clay Gaspar: in hand inventory.

Clay Gaspar: And so we literally have thousands of wells ahead of us. We feel really good about our Delaware Basin activity. We feel so good that we're certainly willing to sign long-term deals, underwrite these pipes that desperately need to be in place. And I think that just underscores our commitment to this area and our confidence in the position that we're in.

Kalei Ackermine: Good stuff. My follow-up question is on M&A. Wondering if you could talk a little bit about your philosophy.

Clay Gaspar: Thanks again for that question.

Speaker Change: My follow-up is on M&A. I wonder if you could talk a little bit about your philosophy. The last three deals that you guys have executed have been outside of the Permian.

Clay Gaspar: The last three deals that you guys have executed have been outside of the Permian. As you sort of highlighted there, the Permian is in a need, given that it's not subscale. But I was wondering if that decision not to transact in the Permian says anything about your view about the bid-ask spread in the base? Uh, not really. You know, I think...

Speaker Change: As you sort of highlighted there, the Permian is in a need given that it's not subscale. But wondering if that decision to not transact in the Permian says anything about your view about the bid-ask spread in the basin?

Clay Gaspar: Not really. I think we've not transacted on major transactions. We have a really healthy ground game going on out there, I can tell you that. But we have not transacted in a permit recently. We participated in a couple, but I can tell you that we continue to stick with our mantra of being very disciplined and having a high bar for some of the premiums that we saw. While that may fit some people, it didn't fit us at the time. That's just the way it works.

Speaker Change: Not really. You know, I think we've not transacted on major, major transactions. We have a really healthy ground game going on out there, I can tell you that. But we have not transacted in a permit recently. You know, we participated in a couple.

Speaker Change: But I can tell you that we continue to stick with our mantra of being very disciplined and having a high bar in some of the premiums that we saw. That may fit some people, it didn't fit us at the time. That's just the way it works.

Speaker Change: Helpful. Thanks, guys.

Operator: The next question comes from Betty Zhang with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Speaker Change: The next question comes from Betty Zhang with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Betty Zhang: Good morning. It's great to see the operational momentum here today. So when we look at the cycle time improvement and then the better well productivity performance, yeah, do you think any of these improvements that you have seen in the first half are sustainable going forward, and have you contemplated any of that into your second half guidance?

Betty Zhang: Good morning. It's great to see the operational momentum here today. So when we look at the cycle time improvement and then the better well productivity performance, that

Betty Zhang: Do you think any of the these improvements that you have seen in the first half is sustainable going forward and have you contemplated any of that into your second half guidance?

Clay Gaspar: Thanks for the question, Betty. We are constantly updating our forecast, both in timing, capital, and, of course, production. And things like, you know, the operational improvements are a little bit easier to kind of grab ahold of and really bake into the forward forecast. But when we're finding unlocked upside in productivity, you know, we're bouncing around. We've got a huge area, specifically in the Delaware Basin, but really around the company.

Betty Zhang: Thanks for the question, Betty. We are constantly updating our forecasts, both in timing, capital,

Betty Zhang: And things like, you know, the operational improvements are a little bit easier to kind of grab ahold to and really bake into the forward forecast.

Betty Zhang: When we're finding unlocked upside in the productivity, you know, we're bouncing around. We've got a huge area, specifically in the Delaware Basin, but really around the company. We believe, you know, in time, that we will be able to continue to unlock that. It's a little harder to bake into the current forecast.

Clay Gaspar: We believe, you know, in time that we will be able to continue to unlock that. But it's a little harder to bake into the current forecast on a month-to-month basis. And so I would say there's continued upside in that, that the teams are continuing to work on. We just want to make sure that what we put forward, we're able to achieve. And like I said, it's a little easier to predict on some of the capital things, especially operational timing issues, casing design, and some of the simulfract changes.

Betty Zhang: on a month-to-month basis and so I would say there's continued upside in that

Betty Zhang: that the teams are continuing to work on.

Betty Zhang: We just, we want to make sure that what we put forward, we're able to achieve, and like I said, it's a little easier to predict on some of the capital things, especially operational timing issues, casing design, some of the simulfract changes, those things we know we can do.

Clay Gaspar: Those things we know we can do. As we look to the well performance, we want to make sure that we've got a clear line of sight to what those productivity rates are. And within a certain area, we certainly understand where we can make improvements, and we capture those as we do.

Betty Zhang: As we look to the well performance, we want to make sure that we've got a clear line of sight to what those productivities are, and within a certain area, we certainly understand where we can make improvements and recapture those as we do.

Betty Zhang: Got it. That makes sense. And on my follow-up, I guess it's pretty similar along that line, parsing through on the CAPEX side of things. With the higher CAPEX, or for 2024, guiding CAPEX to the upper half of the guidance range, and that comes with higher activity as well. So it's a bit hard to parse out any cost benefits that you're seeing across the plate due to the efficiency gains, particularly in the Permian. So Clay, if you could help with any well-cost deflation, maybe on a dollar per foot basis, that would be really helpful.

Speaker Change: Got it. That makes sense. And then on my follow-up, I guess...

Speaker Change: is pretty similar along that line, parsing through on the CAPEX side of things.

Speaker Change: with the higher CapEx.

Speaker Change: or for 2024, guiding cutbacks to the upper half of the guidance range. And that comes with higher activity as well, so a bit hard to parse out any cost benefits that you're seeing across the plate due to the efficiency gains, particularly in the Permian.

Speaker Change: So, Clay, if you could help with any well-cost deflation, maybe on the dollar-per-foot basis, that would be really helpful.

Clay Gaspar: Yeah, Betty, thanks for the question. So, as you recall, from 23 to 24, we forecasted 5% deflation gains during that period. I think we've continued to make improvements on that. At the same time, there's an opposing race for these operational improvements, and that capital is kind of creeping in. So, it's been a battle of, can we outrun deflation, or is operational improvement kind of going to take a little bit?

Clay Gaspar: Yeah, Betty, thanks for the question. So, as you recall, from 23 to 24, we forecasted in 5% deflation gains during that period. I think we've continued to make improvements on that.

Speaker Change: At the same time, there's an opposing race on these operational improvements and that capital kind of creeping in, so it's been a battle of can we...

Speaker Change: outrun the deflation or is the operational improvements kind of going to overtake a little bit. What we're saying so far is we are seeing in the 5% probably even beyond that 5% as we look to the balance of the year.

Clay Gaspar: What we're saying so far is we are seeing the 5%, probably even beyond that 5% as we look to the balance of the year, that is so far a little bit more offset by operational improvements. The good news is, I want to make sure we connect on this, the good news is both deflation and operational improvements help project economics. These are both material gains for the wells, capital efficiency, and overall economics, and that, especially on the operational side, are sticky. Those will translate into future opportunities that we have, not just in Delaware but around the country.

Speaker Change: That is, so far, a little bit more offset by that operational improvement. The good news is, I want to make sure we connect on this.

Speaker Change: The good news is both deflation and the operational improvements help the project economics. These are both material gains for the wells' capital efficiency and overall economics.

Speaker Change: And that, especially on the operational side, are sticky. Those will translate into the future opportunities that we have, not just in the Delaware, but around the company.

Clay Gaspar: No, that's very helpful. Thank you. Thanks, Betty.

Speaker Change: No, that's very helpful. Thank you.

Operator: The next question comes from Charles Meade with Johnson Rice.

Betty: Thanks, Betty.

Speaker Change: The next question comes from Charles Meade with Johnson Rice. Please go ahead.

Charles Meade: Yes, good morning Rick, Clay, Jeff, and the rest of the Devon team there. One comment I've heard a few times in the wake of the Grayson-Mill deal is that some people say, well, you know, they look at the map, and they say a lot of that, particularly the western portion, is non-core. And so I'm curious if you could give your comments on, you know, whether to what extent you agree with that and maybe would say, you know, that was reflected in our purchase price or, alternatively, whether that view is perhaps outdated given that there hasn't been as much attention on, you know, the bucket as there once was.

Charles Mead: Yes, good morning Rick, Clay, Jeff, and the rest of the Devon team there.

Charles Mead: One question or one comment, one comment I've heard a few times in the wake of the Grayson Mill deal.

Charles Mead: is that I've heard some people say well you know they look at the map and they say a lot of that particularly the western portion is non-core and so I'm curious if you could

Speaker Change: If you could give your comments on, you know, whether, to what extent you agree with that, and maybe would say, you know, that was reflected in our purchase price, or alternatively, you know, whether that view is perhaps

Speaker Change: Outdated, given that there hasn't been as much attention on the bucket as there once was.

Rick Muncrief: Yeah, Charles, good question. You know, that's something that I think we have seen over time is that with efficiencies and cost control and all the things that we've learned over the last 15 or 20 years in these shale places, what was once Tier 2 has become core. And I think that what we're seeing is some of this could arguably have been 15, 20 years ago, Tier 2 plus. And what we're seeing is it's, I'd call it, between Tier 2 and a core.

Speaker Change: Yeah, Charles, good question. You know what, that's something that I think we have seen over time is that with efficiencies and cost control.

Speaker Change: and all the things that we've learned over the last 15 or 20 years in these shell places.

Speaker Change: What was once Tier 2 has become core. And I think that what we're seeing is some of this could arguably have been 15, 20 years ago.

Rick Muncrief: So, we're going to see some really nice returns. At the end of the day, when you start looking at the efficiencies, the fact that we're changing orientation slightly, we're drilling 3-mile laterals instead of 2, we're drilling 3-mile wells in the same time or less than it used to take us to drill 2. And completion with these efficiencies, what you see is at the end of the day, whether it's core, whether it's Tier 2, Tier 3, Tier 4, whatever it may be, at the end of the day, it all comes down to well-level returns and what they do for your capital efficiency.

Speaker Change: When you start looking at the efficiencies, the fact that we're changing orientation slightly, we're drilling three mile laterals instead of two.

Speaker Change: We're drilling three-mile wells in the same time, or less than it used to take us to drill two, in completion with these efficiencies.

Speaker Change: What you see is, at the end of the day, whether it's core, whether it's Tier 2, Tier 3, Tier 4, whatever it may be,

Rick Muncrief: And that's how we price all of our transactions, anything we do, or, quite honestly, in our existing development program with our current assets. So, we feel really good about it. And recall, it's a basin that we're very familiar with. Personally, I've been there; this is the 40th year that I've been involved with the Williston Basin. It's pretty incredible. So, I've watched this evolve. And I can tell you, having 3,000 acres to develop, 3,000 acres to explore on over the next several decades, that's a ton of running room for the next several decades.

Speaker Change: At the end of the day, it all comes down to well-level returns and what it does for your capital efficiency. And that's how we price all of our transactions, anything we do, or quite honestly, in our existing development program with our current assets. So, we feel really good about it.

Speaker Change: And recall, you know, it's a basin that we're very familiar with.

Speaker Change: Personally, I've been there, this is the 40th year that I've been involved with in the Williston Basin. It's pretty incredible. So, I've watched this.

Speaker Change: You know evolve and I can tell you having 3,000 acres

Speaker Change: to develop 3,000 acres to explore on over the, you know, that's a ton of running room for the next several decades. So our Geoscience team, I'll go back to some of my prepared remarks. You're really, really excited about what might lie ahead on top of what we already know with our...

Rick Muncrief: So, our Geoscience team. I'll go back to some of my prepared remarks. We're really, really excited about what might lie ahead on top of what we already know with our 500 new drills. Yeah, we feel pretty good about it.

Speaker Change: 500 new drills. So yeah, we feel pretty good about it.

Operator: That is a helpful detail, Rick. And then maybe a follow-up for Clay.

Speaker Change: Got it.

Speaker Change: That is helpful, helpful detail, Rick. And then maybe a follow-up for Clay. Clay, you talked about that

Clay Gaspar: Clay, you talked about that Eagleford redevelopment in DeWitt. Could you just characterize a little bit more what that was? It sounds like that was at least partly refraxed. But was that 100% refraxed? Or what was the composition of that activity? So what we refer to as redevelopment is basically taking

Speaker Change: Eagleford Redevelopment in DeWitt. Could you just characterize a little bit more what that was? It sounds like it that was at least partly refraxed, but is that 100% refraxed or what was that composition of activity there?

Clay Gaspar: Charles, what we refer to as redevelopment is basically taking units that look like they're fully developed and then looking for those downspacing opportunities, and, very unique to the Eagleford, what we're finding is we're able to feather in these wells that are much tighter spacing into fully developed units, and these new development wells, essentially the redevelopment of that, are coming in at phenomenal rates. It's a gift that keeps on giving.

Clay Gaspar: Now when you complement that with refracts on some of the existing wells, we're really finding a one-two punch that continues to provide lots and lots of running room in these areas that, you know, from a map view, look very developed. So that's both in the Carnes and in the DeWitt County areas. We're excited about that continued running room, and it gives us great encouragement about our position in the South Texas Thanks for that detail, Clay. The next question comes from Kevin MacCurdy with Pickering Energy Partners.

Clay Gaspar: the gift that keeps on giving. Now, when you complement that with refracts on some of the existing wells, we're really finding a one-two punch that continues to provide lots and lots of running room in these areas that, you know, from a map view, look very developed.

Speaker Change: So that's both in the Carnes and in the DeWitt County areas. We're excited about that continued running room and it gives us great encouragement about our position in the South Texas area.

Speaker Change: Thanks for that detail, Clay.

Operator: Please go ahead. Hey, good morning, and thanks for taking my question.

Speaker Change: The next question comes from Kevin MacCurdy with Pickering Energy Partners. Please go ahead.

Kevin McGurdy: Hey, good morning and thanks for taking my question. The Delaware is really getting most of the attention and the low-cap X was especially impressive there, but the Eagleford was actually the bigger driver of the beat as we saw it.

Speaker Change: You just talked about the redevelopment wells there driving the growth. Are there any other changes in the Eagle Forge such as the areas you are drilling or other efficiency gains?

Clay Gaspar: Kevin, Ms. Clay, thanks for the question. You know, we actually, across the board, beat. We had, I was listening to some of the calls and questions last night, and, you know, different analysts were picking up on different areas, and I took it as a great compliment that, across the board, our teams are really performing. So, from another angle, you could say, wow, Williston really carried the day, or maybe it was Delaware, but you're right.

Speaker Change: Kevin, this is Clay. Thanks for the question. You know, we actually, across the board, we had, I was listening to some of the calls and questions last night, and, you know,

Speaker Change: different analysts were picking up on different areas and I took it as a great compliment that across the board our teams are really performing so from another angle you could say wow Williston really carried the day or maybe it was the Delaware but you're right the Eagleford played a very critical role

Clay Gaspar: The Eagleford played a very critical role, unique to our operations in the Eagleford, about half of our assets we run in a more conventional way; about half of our assets in the DeWitt County area, we have a 50-50 partnership, a JV partnership there, and so we are, you know, being a good neighbor. We work with our partners, and sometimes what that means is that in some quarters, we get more opportunities, and more activity on that JV than others.

Speaker Change: unique to our operations in the Eagleford about half of our assets we run in a more conventional way about half of our assets in the DeWitt County area we have a 50-50 partnership JV partnership there and so we are you know be a good neighbor we work with our partners and sometimes what that means is

Clay Gaspar: This happened to be an area, a quarter where it got a little bit more of an opportunity, and it's just some really good potential and really good wells that we're drilling there. So, I think it's nothing to extrapolate necessarily, just a little bit of a really nice quarter that we'll take credit for and continue to move forward. Great, and to follow up on Betty's question, are the well-cost savings you're seeing per foot, is that across all of your areas, or is that primarily?

Speaker Change: Some quarters we get more opportunity, more activity on that JV than others. This happened to be an area, a quarter where it got a little bit more of the opportunity and it's just some really good.

Speaker Change: some really good potential and really good wells.

Speaker Change: that we're drilling there, so.

Speaker Change: I think it's nothing to extrapolate necessarily, just a little bit of a real nice quarter that we'll take credit on and continue to move forward.

Betty: Great, and to follow up on Betty's question, are the well-cost savings you're seeing per foot, is that across all of your areas or is that primarily just in the Permian?

Clay Gaspar: Well, Permian has an advantage because we currently have 16 rigs running there and three frack crews. And with that, those economies of scale and those reps and that competition, I mean, we rack and stack all 16 rigs every day on how they're doing. And there's a first place and there's a last place.

Speaker Change: Well, Permian has advantage because we currently have 16 rigs running there and three frack crews. And with that, those economies of scale and those reps and that competition, I mean, we rack and stack all 16 rigs.

Clay Gaspar: And those guys know, those companies know, those engineers know exactly where they stand. And that healthy competition really adds to it. As opposed to an area like Powder, where we have one rig and we have a part-time, you know, frack crew, that's a challenging area to really apply those learnings and really at that scale. So when we fast forward and we look at some of those other opportunities, Powder comes to mind as one. What is the potential for cost savings and efficiency?

Speaker Change: every day on how they're doing. And there's a first place and there's a last place. And those guys know, those companies know, those engineers know exactly where they stand. And that healthy competition really adds to it. As opposed to an area like Powder, that we have one rig and we have a part-time, you know, frack crew, that's a challenging area to really apply those learnings and really that scale. So when we fast-forward and we look at some of those other opportunities, Powder comes to mind as one.

Clay Gaspar: There's so much more to be had when we do end up or are able to lean into that. And so really trying to understand what that potential is and evaluate when does that fit eventually into our portfolio. I think that's part of the consideration.

Clay Gaspar: Now, we're always trying to export the learnings from Delaware and from Eagleford and from Anadarko to all the other areas as well, so they can learn from each other. So that competition doesn't just stay inside the basin. We try to provide that healthy competition and collaboration kind of around the company. And now that we have the Grayson team about to roll in, we're excited about, again, sharing some of those learnings, learning back, you know, from them. And that's the nature and the culture of this continuous improvement that I pointed out in my prepared remarks.

Speaker Change: Now, we're always trying to export the learnings from Delaware and from Eagleford and from Anadarko to all the other areas as well, and they learn from each other. So that competition doesn't just stay inside the basin. We try to provide that healthy competition and collaboration kind of around the company. Now that we have the Grayson team about to roll in, we're excited about, again, sharing some of those learnings, learning back.

Speaker Change: from them, and that's the nature and the culture of this continuous improvement that I pointed to in the prepared remarks.

Clay Gaspar: Thanks for the details, Clay.

Speaker Change: Thanks for the details, Clay.

Operator: Our next question comes from Paul Cheng with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Speaker Change: Our next question comes from Paul Cheng with Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

Paul Cheng: Hi, good morning. Thank you.

Paul Chang: Hi, good morning. Thank you.

Paul Cheng: One question, please. First, I think it's for Clay. I want to go back to your comment about powdery fibasin. To some degree, that has become a bit chicken and egg, right? Because right now, you are not having enough of an activity, so you won't be able to improve the unit cost and everything at a substantial pace, or at least that compared to Permian or even Barkan once you finish with the gray sum.

Paul Chang: One question, please. First, I think it's for Clay. I want to go back into your comment about powdery pervasin.

Speaker Change: To some degree that you become a bit chicken and egg, right? Because right now that you are not having enough of the activity, so you won't be able to improve the unit cost and everything.

Speaker Change: at least that complained to Permian or even Bakken once you finish with the Graysome.

Paul Cheng: But as a result, you're not strong in capital. So, I mean, how exactly should we look at it or internally think about how you're going to balance that and what kind of timeline should we have in terms of moving to the next level at Permian in the powdery fibasin for you?

Speaker Change: But as a result, you are not a trading capital. So I mean, how exactly we should look at it, or internally, how you're going to balance that? And what kind of timeline we should have in terms of moving to the next level in the Powder River Basin for you?

Clay Gaspar: Yeah, thanks for the question, Paul. I appreciate it, and I think it's a really good one.

Clay Gaspar: As we think about the powder, I mentioned it as a complementary asset. The great news is we're going to be able to ride the back of the Delaware Basin and other really strong basins that are much more mature and developed, you know, while we unlock the potential in the powder. So, I plan on us having kind of one to two rigs in that realm, and what we're really focused on is productivity, understanding spacing, and applying some of the learnings that we can around well construction that are material improvements. I mentioned a couple of things.

Speaker Change: Yeah, thanks for the question, Paul. I appreciate it, and I think it's a really good one. As we think about the powder, I mentioned it as a complementary asset. The great news is we're going to be able to ride the back of the Delaware Basin and the other really strong basins that are much more mature and developed.

Speaker Change: you know, while we unlock the potential in the powder.

Speaker Change: plan on us having kind of one to two rigs in that realm. And what we're really focused on is productivity, understanding spacing, applying some of the learnings that we can around well construction that are material improvements. I mentioned a couple of things. There's a new casing design we just applied. It is a very material cost savings.

Clay Gaspar: There's a new casing design we just applied. It is a material cost savings. Those are the kind of things that we'll be able to get our arms around, but it's really on the productivity side, the consistency side. That allows us to really understand the productivity side of the equation. Now, on the cost side, there's 100% certainty in my mind that when we scale this up, costs are going to come down materially, and that's on the back of every other basin we've ever worked in, and we've had success with that. And I also know we will never achieve the full potential until we get that. That's the chicken and egg conundrum that you pointed out.

Speaker Change: Those are the kind of things that we'll be able to get our arms around, but it's really on the productivity side, the consistency side, that allows us to really understand that productivity side of the equation. Now, on the cost side.

Speaker Change: There's a hundred percent certainty in my mind that when we scale this up, costs are going to come down materially. And that's on the back of every other basin we've ever worked in, and we've had success with that.

Speaker Change: And I also know we will never achieve the full potential until we get that. That's the chicken-and-egg conundrum that you pointed to. I think what we'll get to is we'll run our one-to-two rigs. We'll be able to achieve some of those productivity wins. We'll be able to achieve some of the cost wins as well. But we also can look over the fence. A couple of companies have a little bit more activity. And then we can extrapolate our learnings from the other basins to allow, with certain confidence...

Paul Cheng: I think what we'll get to is running our one to two rigs. We'll be able to achieve some of those productivity wins. We'll be able to achieve some of the cost wins as well, but we can also look over the fence. A couple of companies have a little bit more activity, and then we can extrapolate our learnings from the other basins to determine, with certain confidence, what the potential can be, and when that will really start to play a bigger part.

Paul Cheng: To answer the second part of your question, look, we've got time. Time is on our side. We've got long-term leases. We have a great inventory that allows us to de-risk this play in time. So don't think of any of my remarks as all of a sudden there's going to be a rush of capital towards powder. I just want to keep it on your horizon as a really valuable piece of our portfolio that probably has zero value out there in the world from our share price but one day will be an incredible part of our return on overall value creation and return of capital to the shareholders. And in the meantime, we will continue to de-risk this and unlock this potential in a very systematic way.

Speaker Change: what the potential can be and when will that really start to play a bigger part. To answer the second part of your question, look, we've got time. Time is on our side. We've got long-term leases. We have a great inventory that allows us to de-risk this play in time. So don't think of any of my remarks as all of a sudden there's going to be a rush of capital towards powder. I just want to keep it on your horizon as a really valuable piece of our portfolio that probably has

Speaker Change: zero value out there in the world from our share price.

Speaker Change: be an incredible part of our return of overall value creation and return of capital to the shareholders. And in the meantime, we will continue to de-risk this and unlock this potential in a very systematic way.

Paul Cheng: At what pace should we look at your development timeline in the sense that, based on the performance of the other basins, you will wait until, for example, in the Permian, we start to get a bit more aging, and then you will slow down over there, and then you increase the pace in the Palo Risto basin, or that you don't really look at it from that angle?

Clay Gaspar: Clay, should we look at your development timeline in a sense that based on the performance of the other business?

Clay Gaspar: like that you will wait until for example I mean permanent we start to get a bit more aging

Clay Gaspar: And then you will slow down over there and then you increase the pace in the powder reservation or that it doesn't really look from that angle.

Clay Gaspar: Yeah, certainly, you know, we evaluate capital. I mentioned a strategic board meeting we have annually in September, and this is where we're looking 10 years out, and how do all these opportunities fit? You know, what I also mentioned on slide 11 is the incredible inventory we have in the Delaware Basin. You know, there's a big chunk of that that's still yet to be kind of in development, kind of tier one, ready to go.

Clay Gaspar: Yeah, certainly, you know, we evaluate capital. I mentioned a strategic board meeting we have annually in September , and this is where we're looking 10 years out, and how do all these opportunities fit. You know, what I also mentioned on slide 11 is the incredible inventory we have in the Delaware Basin. You know, there's a big chunk of that that's still yet to be kind of on the development kind of tier one ready to go. As we continue to unlock

Clay Gaspar: As we continue to unlock Delaware's asset potential, which we still have a lot of unlocking to do there, that puts other things probably a little further out on the runway. But I think it's incumbent on us to make sure that all of these potentials are understood well in advance of us needing them. And so I would expect in time, maybe the second half of the decade, there'll be more of an opportunity for the powder to really step in.

Clay Gaspar: Delaware asset potential, which we still have a lot of

Clay Gaspar: unlocking to do there, that puts other things probably a little further out on the runway.

Clay Gaspar: But I think it's incumbent on us to make sure that all of these potentials are understood well in advance of us needing them. And so what I would expect in time, maybe second half of the decade, there'll be more of an opportunity for the powder to really step in. In the meantime, the front half of the decade, we really need to make sure that we're ready for that. And what my signal to you today is, we're really pleased with that steady progress that we're seeing.

Clay Gaspar: In the meantime, the first half of the decade, we really need to make sure that we're ready for that. And what my signal to you today is that we're really pleased with that steady progress that we're seeing.

Paul Cheng: Perfect. A real quick one, a final one for me. Can you compare Grayson with your legacy Barton in terms of the well cost and the operating cost? Is one year better than the other, or similar? Thank you.

Speaker Change: Perfect. A real quick one, a final one for me. Can you compare Grayson with your legacy partner in terms of the well cost and the operating cost? Is it one year better than the other or similar? Thank you.

Clay Gaspar: Well, there are some important differences. The first thing I would point to, and the reason we're so attracted to Grayson, is the running room. You know, additional 300,000 acres, an incredible running room, well positioned for a lot of three mile development gets us really excited. Now, objectively, the east side of the basin on the reservation where we're at in our legacy position is just better rock, which has been an incredible asset for us to lean on for a decade from the WPX side.

Speaker Change: Well, there's some important differences. The first thing I would point to and the reason we're so attracted to the Grayson is the running room. You know, additional 300,000 acres, an incredible running room, well-positioned for a lot of three-mile development, gets us really excited. Now, objectively, the east side of the basin on the reservation where we're at in our legacy position is just better rock, which has been an incredible asset for us to lean on for

Clay Gaspar: And so we've created some incredible value from that. As we look on the Grayson side, there is incredible running room. Rick mentioned a lot of the stuff not too long ago was tier two acreage, so it hasn't been developed.

Speaker Change: a decade from the WPX side.

Speaker Change: And so we've created some incredible value from that. As we look on the Grayson side, incredible running room. Rick mentioned a lot of the stuff not too long ago was Tier 2 acreage.

Clay Gaspar: And importantly, with the nature of this kind of rock, we think there's more upside potential in things like refracts and further upside potential from enhanced oil recovery and other ideas further down the road. So really excited about Grayson from a well cost standpoint. I would say it's really too early to tell. I think it'll be in the same ballpark. But look for us to gain some efficiencies as we really think about those rigs holistically for the entire base. And we'll gain some great efficiencies there as well. Hey, Paul, it's...

Rick Muncrief: So it hasn't been developed, and then importantly, with the nature of this kind of rock, we think there's more upside potential in things like refracts and further upside potential from enhanced oil recovery and other ideas.

Rick Muncrief: further down the road. So really excited about Grayson. From a well cost standpoint, I would say really too early to tell. It'll be in the same ballpark, but look for us to gain some efficiencies as we really think about those rigs holistically for the entire basin. We'll gain some great

Rick Muncrief: Hey Paul, it's Rick. I'll interject a couple of other things. Number one is... Yeah, number one is that I think on the Grayson project or the Grayson acreage, you're going to have slightly less oil cut percentage. But I also think we'll see better margins because of the control or the influence we have with the infrastructure there that we don't have over on the legacy position. So I think that's going to be a net plus for us on that. We're excited about it. But. Thanks for the question. Thank you, Ray.

Rick Muncrief: efficiencies there as well.

Rick Muncrief: Hey Paul, it's Rick. I'll interject a couple of other things. Number one is...

Paul Chang: Yeah, number one is that I think on the Grayson project, the Grayson acreage, you're going to have slightly less oil cut percentage.

Rick Muncrief: But I also think we'll see better margins because of the control or the influence we have with the infrastructure there, which we don't have over on the legacy position. So I think that's going to be a net plus for us on that. So we're excited about it.

Operator: We have reached the end of our Q&A session. We want to thank everyone for your interest in Devon and, if you have any further questions, please reach out to anyone in the investor relations team. I hope everyone has a wonderful day. Thank you.

Paul Chang: Thanks for the question. Thank you, Ray.

Speaker Change: We have reached the end of our Q&A session. We want to appreciate everyone for your interest in Devon and if you have any further questions please reach out to anyone in the investor relations team and hope everyone has a wonderful day. Thank you.

Operator: Thank you everyone for joining us today. This concludes our call, and you may now disconnect your lines.

Speaker Change: Thank you everyone for joining us today. This concludes our call and you may now disconnect your lines.

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