Q2 2024 SoFi Technologies Inc Earnings Call
Chris Lapointe, Maura Cyr, Anthony Noto
Chris Lapointe: Foreign.
Operator: This is a holding announcement for the SoFi Technologies Q2 2024 earnings conference call. The call will begin in approximately two minutes' time. Thank you for your patience. Good morning. My name is Adam and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the SoFi Technologies Q2 2024 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press STAR followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you wish to withdraw your question, please press STAR followed by two. Thank you. With that, you may begin your conference.
Operator: This is a holding announcement for the SoFi Technologies Q2 2024 earnings conference call. The call will begin in approximately two minutes' time. Thank you for your patience. Good morning. My name is Adam and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the SoFi Technologies Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press STAR followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you wish to withdraw your question, please press STAR followed by two. Thank you. With that, you may begin your conference.
Unknown Attendee: This is a holding announcement for the SoFi Technologies Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call. The call will begin in approximately two minutes. Thank you for your patience.
Speaker Change: This is a holding announcement for the SoFi Technologies Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call. The call will begin in approximately two minutes time. Thank you for your patience.
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Adam: Good morning, my name is Adam and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the SoFi Technologies Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call.
Adam: After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press the star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you wish to withdraw your question, please press star followed by two.
Speaker Change: All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by 1 on your telephone keypad. If you wish to withdraw your question, please press star followed by 2. Thank you. With that, you may begin your conference.
Adam: With that, you may begin your conference. Thank you, and good morning.
[Company Representative] (SoFi Technologies): Thank you and good morning. Welcome to SoFi's second quarter of 2024 earnings conference call. Joining me today to talk about our results and recent events are Anthony Noto, CEO, and Chris Lapointe, CFO. You can find the presentation accompanying our earnings release on the Investor Relations section of our website. Our remarks today will include forward-looking statements that are based on our current expectations and forecasts and involve risks and uncertainties. These statements include, but are not limited to, our competitive advantage and strategy, macroeconomic conditions and outlook, future products and services, and future business and financial performance. Our actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause these results to differ materially are described in today's press release and in our subsequent filings made with the SEC, including our upcoming Form 10-Q.
[Company Representative] (SoFi Technologies): Thank you and good morning. Welcome to SoFi's Second Quarter of 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Joining me today to talk about our results and recent events are Anthony Noto, CEO, and Chris Lapointe, CFO. You can find the presentation accompanying our earnings release on the Investor Relations section of our website. Our remarks today will include forward-looking statements that are based on our current expectations and forecasts and involve risks and uncertainties. These statements include, but are not limited to, our competitive advantage and strategy, macroeconomic conditions and outlook, future products and services, and future business and financial performance. Our actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause these results to differ materially are described in today's press release and in our subsequent filings made with the SEC, including our upcoming Form 10-Q.
Unknown Attendee: Welcome to SoFi's second quarter of 2024 earnings conference. Joining me today to talk about our results and recent events are Anthony Noto, CEO, and Chris Lapointe, CFO. You can find the presentation accompanying our earnings release in the Investor Relations section. Our remarks today will include forward-looking statements that are based on our current expectations and forecasts and involve risks and uncertainties. These statements include, but are not limited to, our competitive advantage and strategy, macroeconomic conditions and outlook, future products and services, and future business and financial performance.
Speaker Change: Thank you, and good morning.
Speaker Change: Welcome to SoFi's second quarter of 2024 Earnings Conference Call.
Speaker Change: Joining me today to talk about our results and recent events are Anthony Noto, CEO , and Chris Lapointe, CFO . You can find the presentation accompanying our earnings release on the Investor Relations section of our website.
Unknown Attendee: Our actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements. Factors that could cause these results to differ materially are described in today's press release and in subsequent filings made with the FDA, including our upcoming form. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Our remarks today will include forward-looking statements that are based on our current expectations and forecasts, and involve risks and uncertainties.
Speaker Change: These statements include, but are not limited to, our competitive advantage and strategy, macroeconomic conditions and outlook, future products and services, and future business and financial performance.
Speaker Change: Our actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by these forward-looking statements.
Speaker Change: Factors that could cause these results to differ materially are described in today's press release and our subsequent filings made with the SEC, including our upcoming Form 10-Q .
[Company Representative] (SoFi Technologies): Any forward looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions. As of today, we undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or future events. I’d like to turn the call over to Anthony.
Any forward looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions. As of today, we undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or future events. I’d like to turn the call over to Anthony.
Anthony Noto: Any forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or future events. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to. Thank you, and good morning, everyone.
Speaker Change: Any forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions as of today. We undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or future events. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to Anthony.
Anthony Noto: Thank you and good morning everyone. Our second quarter results were exceptional and continue to demonstrate SoFi's leadership as a one stop shop for digital financial services, and the amazing grit of our team. I'll cover five topics before turning to Chris for a deeper look at our financial and operating performance. First, our strategy continues to drive strong, diversified growth, profitability, and returns. Second, our continuous product innovation and brand building are fueling significant member and product growth, which are key to our long term revenue and profit growth outlooks. Third, turning to our segment results, our financial services segment demonstrates our clear structural advantages in delivering value to members. Fourth, our leadership and agility in lending has generated sustained returns despite rising rates and positions us to move quickly once rates come down.
Anthony Noto: Thank you and good morning everyone. Our second quarter results were exceptional and continue to demonstrate SoFi's leadership as a one stop shop for digital financial services, and the amazing grit of our team. I'll cover five topics before turning to Chris for a deeper look at our financial and operating performance. First, our strategy continues to drive strong, diversified growth, profitability, and returns. Second, our continuous product innovation and brand building are fueling significant member and product growth, which are key to our long term revenue and profit growth outlooks. Third, turning to our segment results, our financial services segment demonstrates our clear structural advantages in delivering value to members. Fourth, our leadership and agility in lending has generated sustained returns despite rising rates and positions us to move quickly once rates come down.
Anthony Noto: Our second quarter results were exceptional and continue to demonstrate SoFi's leadership as a one-stop shop for digital financial services and the amazing grit of our team. I'll cover five topics before turning to Chris for a deeper look at our financial and operating performance. First, our strategy continues to drive strong diversified growth, profitability, and return. Second, our continuous product innovation and brand building are fueling significant member and product growth, which is key to our long-term revenue and profit growth outlook. Third, turning to our segment results, our financial services segment demonstrates our clear structural advantages in delivering value to members.
Anthony Noto: Thank you and good morning everyone. Our second quarter results were exceptional and continue to demonstrate SoFi's leadership as a one-stop shop for digital financial services and the amazing grit of our team.
Anthony Noto: Fourth, our leadership and agility in lending have generated sustained returns despite rising rates and positions us to move quickly once rates come down. And finally, our tech platform is making good progress on its journey toward becoming an AWS of not only fintech but of financial services broadly. Turning to the first topic, the success of our one-stop-shop strategy. For Q2, Adjusted Net Revenue reached a new record of $597 million, a 22% year-over-year increase.
Anthony Noto: I'll cover five topics before turning to Chris for a deeper look at our financial and operating performance.
Anthony Noto: First, our strategy continues to drive strong, diversified growth and profitability returns. Second, our continuous product innovation and brand building are fueling significant member and product growth, which are key to our long-term revenue and profit growth outlooks.
Chris Lapointe: Third, turning to our segment results, our financial services segment demonstrates our clear structural advantages in delivering value to members.
Chris Lapointe: Fourth, our leadership and agility in lending has generated sustained returns despite rising rates and positions us to move quickly once rates come down.
Anthony Noto: Finally, our tech platform is making good progress on its journey toward becoming the AWS of not only fintech, but of financial services broadly. Turning to the first topic, the success of our one stop shop strategy for Q2 adjusted net revenue reached a new record of $597 million, a 22% year over year increase. Our rapid diversification made a record revenue quarter possible, even with just 5% growth in adjusted net revenue in lending. Combined financial services and tech platform revenue grew 46% year over year, and now makes up 45% of total adjusted net revenue, up from 38% one year ago. To put that accomplishment in context, lending now stands at just 57% of adjusted net revenue compared to 99% of our revenue when I joined nearly seven years ago, and more than 70% of revenue just two years ago.
Finally, our tech platform is making good progress on its journey toward becoming the AWS of not only fintech, but of financial services broadly. Turning to the first topic, the success of our one stop shop strategy for Q2 adjusted net revenue reached a new record of $597 million, a 22% year-over-year increase. Our rapid diversification made a record revenue quarter possible, even with just 5% growth in adjusted net revenue in lending. Combined financial services and tech platform revenue grew 46% year-over-year, and now makes up 45% of total adjusted net revenue, up from 38% one year ago. To put that accomplishment in context, lending now stands at just 57% of adjusted net revenue compared to 99% of our revenue when I joined nearly seven years ago, and more than 70% of revenue just two years ago.
Chris Lapointe: And finally, our tech platform is making good progress on its journey toward becoming an AWS of not only fintech, but of financial services broadly.
Chris Lapointe: Turning to the first topic, the success of our one-stop shop strategy.
Chris Lapointe: For Q2, Adjusted Net Revenue reached a new record of $597 million dollars, a 22% year-over-year increase.
Anthony Noto: Our rapid diversification made a record revenue quarter possible, even with just 5% growth and adjusted net revenue on Monday. Combined, financial services and tech platform revenue grew 46% year over year and now makes up 45% of total adjusted net revenue, up from 38% one year ago. To put that accomplishment in context, lending now stands at just 57% of adjusted net revenue compared to 99% of our revenue when I joined nearly seven years ago and more than 70% of revenue just two years ago. We also delivered even greater growth and profitability in the quarter. EBITDA grew 80% year over year to $138 million.
Chris Lapointe: Our rapid diversification made a record revenue quarter possible, even with just 5% growth and adjusted net revenue in Monday.
Chris Lapointe: Combined, financial services and tech platform revenue grew 46% year-over-year and now makes up 45% of total adjusted net revenue, up from 38% one year ago.
Speaker Change: To put that accomplishment in context, lending now stands at just 57% of adjusted net revenue compared to 99% of our revenue when I joined nearly seven years ago, and more than 70% of revenue just two years ago.
Anthony Noto: We also delivered even greater growth and profitability in the quarter. EBITDA grew 80% year over year to $138 million. We recorded our third consecutive quarter of GAAP profitability with $17 million in GAAP net income versus a loss of $40 million in Q2 2023. Credit performance was better than expected as cumulative fair value adjustments from delinquent loans peaked in March along with delinquencies on an absolute and percentage basis. We are really encouraged by our team's ability to bend the curves through stringent underwriting, limiting credit exposure when prudent, and improving collections and servicing. Chris will share details on the performance of our recent personal loan vintages, which show clear improvements versus older vintages, underscoring our confidence in our prior guidance around lifelong losses peaking in the 7% to 8% range.
We also delivered even greater growth and profitability in the quarter. EBITDA grew 80% year-over-year to $138 million. We recorded our third consecutive quarter of GAAP profitability with $17 million in GAAP net income versus a loss of $40 million in Q2 2023. Credit performance was better than expected as cumulative fair value adjustments from delinquent loans peaked in March along with delinquencies on an absolute and percentage basis. We are really encouraged by our team's ability to bend the curves through stringent underwriting, limiting credit exposure when prudent, and improving collections and servicing. Chris will share details on the performance of our recent personal loan vintages, which show clear improvements versus older vintages, underscoring our confidence in our prior guidance around lifelong losses peaking in the 7%-8% range.
Speaker Change: We also delivered even greater growth and profitability in the quarter.
Speaker Change: EBITDA grew 80% year-over-year to $138 million.
Anthony Noto: We recorded our third consecutive quarter of gap profitability with $17 million in gap net income versus a loss of $40 million in Q2 of 2023. Credit performance was better than expected as cumulative fair value adjustments from delinquent loans peaked in March, along with delinquencies on an absolute and percentage basis. We are really encouraged by our team's ability to bend the curves through stringent underwriting, limiting credit exposure when prudent, and improving coordinations Chris will share details on the performance of our recent personal loan vintages, which show clear improvements versus older vintages, underscoring our confidence in our prior guidance around lifelong losses peaking in the 7 to 8% range.
Speaker Change: We recorded our third consecutive quarter of GAAP profitability with $17 million in GAAP net income versus a loss of $40 million in Q2 of 2023.
Speaker Change: Credit performance was better than expected as cumulative fair value adjustments from development loans peaked in March, along with delinquencies on an absolute and percentage basis.
Speaker Change: We are really encouraged by our team's ability to bend the curves through stringent underwriting, limiting credit exposure when prudent, and improving coactions and servicing.
Speaker Change: Chris will share details on the performance of our recent personal loan vintages, which show clear improvements versus older vintages, underscoring our confidence in our prior guidance around lifelong losses peaking in the 7-8% range.
Anthony Noto: Our loan sales continue to scale at attractive execution levels, with an increasingly diversified set of buyers, with $1.6 billion in total sales this quarter and $4.7 billion in the three trailing quarters. This brings me to my second topic. Our rapid pace of innovation and brand building are fueling significant member and product growth. The growing size of our member base and the number of products they use impact the results we're reporting today, but more importantly, they are the leading indicators of our potential revenue growth and profitability in the future. In Q2, we added 643,000 members and now have 8.8 million in total. That's up 41% year over year. We grew products in the quarter by 946,000 to 12.8 million in total. That's up 43% year over year. Adjusting for our exit from crypto.
Our loan sales continue to scale at attractive execution levels, with an increasingly diversified set of buyers, with $1.6 billion in total sales this quarter and $4.7 billion in the three trailing quarters. This brings me to my second topic. Our rapid pace of innovation and brand building are fueling significant member and product growth. The growing size of our member base and the number of products they use impact the results we're reporting today, but more importantly, they are the leading indicators of our potential revenue growth and profitability in the future. In Q2, we added 643,000 members and now have 8.8 million in total. That's up 41% year-over-year. We grew products in the quarter by 946,000 to 12.8 million in total. That's up 43% year-over-year. Adjusting for our exit from crypto.
Anthony Noto: Our loan sales continue to scale at attractive execution levels with an increasingly diversified set of buyers, with $1.6 billion in total sales this quarter and $4.7 billion in the three trailing quarters. This brings me to my second topic, the rapid pace of innovation and brand building are fueling significant member and product growth. The growing size of our member base and the number of products they use impact the results we're reporting today. But more importantly, they are the leading indicators of our potential revenue growth and profitability in the future. In Q2, we added 643,000 members and now have 8.8 million in total.
Chris Lapointe: Our loan sales continue to scale at attractive execution levels with an increasingly diversified set of buyers with $1.6 billion in total sales this quarter and $4.7 billion in the three trailing quarters.
Chris Lapointe: This brings me to my second topic. Our rapid pace of innovation and brand building are fueling significant member and product growth.
Chris Lapointe: The growing size of our member base and the number of products they use impact the results we're reporting today. But more importantly, they are the leading indicators of our potential revenue growth and profitability in the future.
Anthony Noto: That's up 41% year over year. We grew products in the quarter by $946,000 to $12.8 million in total. That's up 43% year-over-year, adjusting for our exit from crypto last year. Nearly 40% of all new products in Q2 were opened by existing SoFi members. We also see that nearly 30% of new members open a second product in the first 30 days, demonstrating the immediate value of our one-stop shop strategy
Chris Lapointe: In Q2, we added 643,000 members and now have 8.8 million in total. That's up 41% year-over-year.
Chris Lapointe: We grew products in the quarter by $946,000 to $12.8 million in total. That's up 43% year-over-year, adjusting for our exit from crypto last year.
Anthony Noto: Last year, nearly 40% of all new products in Q2 were opened by existing SoFi members. We also see that nearly 30% of new members open a second product in the first 30 days, demonstrating the immediate value of our One Stop Shop strategy. We've doubled our member base and number of products in the past two years, and Q2 was the 20th consecutive quarter of greater than 30% growth. Our growth in members and products will drive our financial growth for years to come, and it's the basis for our three-year financial outlook shared at the end of 2023. All this growth is a direct result of our relentless focus on innovation. Because we offer products across eight categories, compared to many fintechs that only offer one or two, the magnitude of our innovation is not always obvious.
Last year, nearly 40% of all new products in Q2 were opened by existing SoFi members. We also see that nearly 30% of new members open a second product in the first 30 days, demonstrating the immediate value of our One Stop Shop strategy. We've doubled our member base and number of products in the past two years, and Q2 was the 20th consecutive quarter of greater than 30% growth. Our growth in members and products will drive our financial growth for years to come, and it's the basis for our three-year financial outlook shared at the end of 2023. All this growth is a direct result of our relentless focus on innovation. Because we offer products across eight categories, compared to many fintechs that only offer one or two, the magnitude of our innovation is not always obvious.
Chris Lapointe: Nearly 40% of all new products in Q2 were opened by existing SoFi members. We also see that nearly 30% of new members opened a second product in the first 30 days, demonstrating the immediate value of our one-stop-shop strategy.
Anthony Noto: We've doubled our member base and number of products in the past two years, and Q2 was the 20th consecutive quarter of greater than 30% growth. Our growth in members and products will drive our financial growth for years to come, and it's the basis for a three-year financial outlook shared at the end of 2023. All this growth is a direct result of our relentless focus on innovation. Because we offer products across eight categories compared to many fintechs that only offer one or two, the magnitude of our innovation is not always obvious. As much as I'd love to share the full breadth of what we shipped in the quarter, I'll just cover a few of the highlights.
Chris Lapointe: We've doubled our member base and number of products in the past two years, and Q2 was the 20th consecutive quarter of greater than 30% growth. Our growth in members and products will drive our financial growth for years to come, and it's the basis for a three-year financial outlook shared at the end of 2023.
Chris Lapointe: All this growth is a direct result of our relentless focus on innovation. Because we offer products across eight categories, compared to many fintechs that only offer one or two, the magnitude of our innovation is not always obvious.
Anthony Noto: As much as I'd love to share the full breadth of what we shipped in the quarter, I'll just cover a few of the highlights. I'll start with our financial services business, which drove 91% of our new product ads in the quarter. Our Invest offering is getting better every day. In fact, I don't know of any other self-directed product that offers alternative assets like private credit, private real estate, and private venture investing side by side with fractional shares, robo funds, ETFs, and IPOs. Our innovations over the last year are starting to accelerate results, driving a 50% year-over-year increase in assets under management in our Invest business in Q2, and this was driven largely by net flows.
As much as I'd love to share the full breadth of what we shipped in the quarter, I'll just cover a few of the highlights. I'll start with our financial services business, which drove 91% of our new product ads in the quarter. Our Invest offering is getting better every day. In fact, I don't know of any other self-directed product that offers alternative assets like private credit, private real estate, and private venture investing side by side with fractional shares, robo funds, ETFs, and IPOs. Our innovations over the last year are starting to accelerate results, driving a 50% year-over-year increase in assets under management in our Invest business in Q2, and this was driven largely by net flows.
Chris Lapointe: As much as I'd love to share the full breadth of what we shipped in the quarter, I'll just cover a few of the highlights.
Anthony Noto: I'll start with our financial services, which drove 91% of our new product ads in the quarter. Our investing offering is getting better every day. In fact, I don't know of any other self-directed product that offers alternative assets like private credit, private real estate, and private venture investing side by side with fractional sharers, robo funds, ETFs, and IPOs.
Chris Lapointe: I'll start with our financial services business, which drove 91% of our new product ads in the quarter.
Chris Lapointe: Our invest offering is getting better every day. In fact,
Chris Lapointe: I don't know of any other self-directed product that offers alternative assets like private credit, private real estate, and private venture investing side-by-side with fractional sharers, robo-funds, ETFs, and IPOs.
Anthony Noto: Our innovations over the last year are starting to accelerate results, driving a 50% year-over-year increase in assets under management in our investment business in Q2, and this was driven largely by NetFlow. We fully rolled out alternative assets and mutual funds, including integral funds from well-known financial leaders such as KKR, Carlyle, Franklin Templeton, and ARK Venture Fund, which includes several leading private technology companies. Alternative assets generated 12% of all net flows during the second quarter.
Chris Lapointe: Our innovations over the last year are starting to accelerate results, driving a 58% year-over-year increase in assets under management in our invest business and Q2. And this was driven largely by net flows.
Anthony Noto: We fully rolled out alternative assets and mutual funds, including interval funds from well-known financial leaders in KKR, Carlyle, Franklin Templeton, and Ark Venture Fund, which includes several leading private technology companies. Alternative assets generated 12% of all net flows during the second quarter. We brought the concept of one-click checkout to individual asset transfers, enabling our members to consolidate their assets the way they would like, and now we're seeing benefits from that innovation as well. We are now finalizing a turnkey way for companies going public to extend participation in their IPOs at scale to their customers, employees, and partners. With this new Directed Share Program, people can open an account, enter an order, and fund it in minutes without fees, minimum balances, or speaking to anyone in order to participate in an IPO.
We fully rolled out alternative assets and mutual funds, including interval funds from well-known financial leaders in KKR, Carlyle, Franklin Templeton, and Ark Venture Fund, which includes several leading private technology companies. Alternative assets generated 12% of all net flows during the second quarter. We brought the concept of one-click checkout to individual asset transfers, enabling our members to consolidate their assets the way they would like, and now we're seeing benefits from that innovation as well. We are now finalizing a turnkey way for companies going public to extend participation in their IPOs at scale to their customers, employees, and partners. With this new Directed Share Program, people can open an account, enter an order, and fund it in minutes without fees, minimum balances, or speaking to anyone in order to participate in an IPO.
Chris Lapointe: We fully rolled out alternative assets and mutual funds, including integral funds from well-known financial leaders in KKR, Carlyle, Franklin Templeton, and ARK Venture Fund, which includes several leading private technology companies.
Anthony Noto: We brought the concept of one-click checkout to individual asset transfers, enabling our members to consolidate their assets the way they would like, and now we're seeing benefits from that innovation as well. We are now finalizing a turnkey way for companies going public to extend participation in their IPOs at scale to their customers, employees, and partners. With this new directed share program, people can open an account, enter an order, and fund it in minutes without fees, minimum balances, or speaking to anyone in order to participate in an IPO.
Chris Lapointe: Alternative assets generated 12% of all net flows during the second quarter.
Chris Lapointe: We brought the concept of one-click checkout to individual asset transfers, enabling our members to consolidate their assets the way they would like. And now we're seeing benefits from that innovation as well.
Chris Lapointe: We are now finalizing a turnkey way for companies going public to extend participation in their IPOs at scale to their customers, employees, and partners.
Speaker Change: With this new Directed Chair program, people can open an account, enter an order, and fund it in minutes without fees, minimum balances, or speaking to anyone in order to participate in an IPO.
Anthony Noto: Turning to SoFi Money in the quarter, we launched Zelle, one of our most requested features, and one element of our much larger money movement product pipeline. The innovations in our member business unit, which focuses on ensuring our products were better when used together, are reaching critical mass. For example, 3 million members have signed up for SoFi's broad-based rewards program. We're creating a rewards economy across our products, including rewards for using our app, and other services. We're expanding redemption options, including into stocks, cash for savings, and travel. For SoFi Plus, we achieved 1 million members. For people that are not familiar with SoFi Plus, it is our premium membership tier available to those who enable direct deposit. SoFi Plus includes our highest APY on banking balances, which today is up to 4.6%.
Turning to SoFi Money in the quarter, we launched Zelle, one of our most requested features, and one element of our much larger money movement product pipeline. The innovations in our member business unit, which focuses on ensuring our products were better when used together, are reaching critical mass. For example, 3 million members have signed up for SoFi's broad-based rewards program. We're creating a rewards economy across our products, including rewards for using our app, and other services. We're expanding redemption options, including into stocks, cash for savings, and travel. For SoFi Plus, we achieved 1 million members. For people that are not familiar with SoFi Plus, it is our premium membership tier available to those who enable direct deposit. SoFi Plus includes our highest APY on banking balances, which today is up to 4.6%.
Anthony Noto: Turning to SoFi money, in the quarter, we launched Zelle, one of our most requested features and one element of our much larger money-moving product pipeline. The innovations in our member business unit, which focuses on ensuring our products work better when used together, are reaching critical mass. For example, 3 million members have signed up for SoFi's broad-based rewards program. We're creating a rewards economy across our products, including rewards for using our app and other services, and we're expanding redemption options, including into stocks, cash for savings, and travel.
Speaker Change: Money. In the quarter, we launched Zelle, one of our most requested features and one element of our much larger money movement product pipeline.
Speaker Change: The innovations in our member business unit, which focuses on ensuring our products work better when used together, are reaching critical mass. For example, 3 million members have signed up for SoFi's broad-based rewards program.
Speaker Change: We're creating a rewards economy across our products, including rewards for using our app and other services. And we're expanding redemption options, including into stocks, cash for savings, and travel.
Anthony Noto: For SoFi Plus, we achieved 1 million members. For people that are not familiar with SoFi Plus, it is our premium membership tier, available to those who enable direct deposit. SoFi Plus includes our highest APY on banking balances, which today is up to 4.6%. It also includes up to two X reward points.
Speaker Change: For SoFi+, we achieved 1 million members. For people that are not familiar with SoFi+, it is our premium membership tier available to those who enable direct deposit.
Speaker Change: SoFi Plus includes our highest APY on banking balances, which today is up to 4.6%. It also includes up to 2x reward points.
Anthony Noto: It also includes up to 2x reward points, up to 3.3% cash back rewards on SoFi Credit, spending, discounts on personal loan rates, and much more. I'm very excited to share that we've laid the foundation to provide more value in SoFi Plus not only to direct deposit members, but also a monthly paid subscription product for those who prefer that option over direct deposit. We intend to test this new subscription-based option for SoFi Plus later this year. We're also driving iteration and learning to drive innovation in credit cards. We improved our acquisition capabilities and introduced a 10% cash back boost for SoFi Plus members that has shown positive results, and I'm excited to share that this week we'll also begin testing two new credit cards to better serve our members' needs.
It also includes up to 2x reward points, up to 3.3% cash back rewards on SoFi Credit, spending, discounts on personal loan rates, and much more. I'm very excited to share that we've laid the foundation to provide more value in SoFi Plus not only to direct deposit members, but also a monthly paid subscription product for those who prefer that option over direct deposit. We intend to test this new subscription-based option for SoFi Plus later this year. We're also driving iteration and learning to drive innovation in credit cards. We improved our acquisition capabilities and introduced a 10% cash back boost for SoFi Plus members that has shown positive results, and I'm excited to share that this week we'll also begin testing two new credit cards to better serve our members' needs.
Anthony Noto: Up to 3.3% cashback rewards on SoFi credit spending, discounts on personal loan rates, and much more. And I'm very excited to share that we've laid the foundation to provide more value in SoFi Plus, not only to direct deposit members but also a monthly paid subscription product for those who prefer that option over direct deposit. We intend to test this new subscription-based option for SoFi Plus later this year.
Speaker Change: Up to 3.3% cash back rewards on SoFi credit spending, discounts on personal loan rates, and much more.
Speaker Change: And I'm very excited to share that we've laid the foundation to provide more value in SoFi Plus, not only to Direct Deposit members, but also a monthly paid subscription product for those who prefer that option over Direct Deposit.
Speaker Change: We intend to test this new subscription-based option for SoFi Plus later this year.
Anthony Noto: We're also driving iteration and learning to drive innovation in credit cards. We've improved our acquisition capabilities and introduced a 10% cashback boost for SoFi Plus members that has shown positive results. And I'm excited to share that this week we'll also begin testing two new credit cards to better serve our members' needs. One card for cashback rewards on everyday, high-spending categories, and one for members who need a no-frills card with no surprise fees.
Speaker Change: We're also driving iteration and learning to drive innovation in credit cards. We improved our acquisition capabilities and introduced a 10% cashback boost for SoFi Plus members that has shown positive results.
Speaker Change: And I'm excited to share that this week we'll also begin testing two new credit cards to better serve our members' needs. One card for cashback rewards on everyday, high-spending categories, and one for members who need a no-frills card with no surprise fees.
Anthony Noto: One card for cash back rewards on everyday high spending categories, and one for members who need a no frills card with no surprise fees. Turning to lending, we've launched new capabilities that position us for future growth, especially as the rate environment improves in small medium business. Members can now apply for a loan at SoFi and get approved offers from lending partners in home loans. We can now close our home equity products instead of brokering them out. This dramatically increases our potential for revenue per loan. Notably, we're now a principal in home equity loans and can offer members a lower cost of borrowing in these secured loans compared to higher rates in unsecured lending. Of course, our tech platform is a center of innovation as we add capabilities to our already comprehensive offering. We expanded our Buy Now Pay Later product for post purchase use.
One card for cash back rewards on everyday high spending categories, and one for members who need a no frills card with no surprise fees. Turning to lending, we've launched new capabilities that position us for future growth, especially as the rate environment improves in small medium business. Members can now apply for a loan at SoFi and get approved offers from lending partners in home loans. We can now close our home equity products instead of brokering them out. This dramatically increases our potential for revenue per loan. Notably, we're now a principal in home equity loans and can offer members a lower cost of borrowing in these secured loans compared to higher rates in unsecured lending. Of course, our tech platform is a center of innovation as we add capabilities to our already comprehensive offering. We expanded our Buy Now Pay Later product for post purchase use.
Anthony Noto: Turning to lending, we've launched new capabilities that position us for future growth, especially as the rate environment improves. For small and medium-sized businesses, members can now apply for a loan at SoFi and get approved offers from lending partners.
Speaker Change: Turning to lending, we've launched new capabilities that position us for future growth, especially as the rate environment improves. In small and medium business, members can now apply for a loan at SoFi and get approved offers from lending partners.
Anthony Noto: In home loans, we can now close our home equity products instead of brokering them out. This dramatically increases our potential for revenue per loan. Notably, we're now a principal in home equity loans and can offer members a lower cost of borrowing in these secured loans compared to higher rates and unsecured lending. And, of course, our tech platform is a center of innovation as we add capabilities to our already comprehensive offering. We expanded our buy-now-pay-later product for post-purchase use, we added new wire capabilities, and extended the AI-driven transactional fraud capabilities in our payment risk platform to non-processing partners. We also advanced the quality of our managed service in the cloud and introduced 3DS, which adds another layer of security to digital card transactions.
Speaker Change: In home loans, we can now close our home equity products instead of brokering them out. This dramatically increases our potential for revenue per loan. Notably, we're now a principal in home equity loans and can offer members a lower cost of borrowing in these secured loans compared to higher rates in unsecured lending.
Speaker Change: And of course, our tech platform is a center of innovation as we add capabilities to our already comprehensive offering.
Anthony Noto: We added new wire capabilities and extended the AI-driven transactional fraud capabilities in our payment risk platform to non-processing partners. We also advanced the quality of our managed service in the cloud and introduced 3DS, which adds another layer of security to digital card transactions. These improvements ensure our modern, cloud-based platform will continue to serve the needs of brands, fintechs, and global financial institutions alike. Having world-class products is a necessary factor in becoming a top 10 financial institution, but it's not enough. We must also become a trusted household brand name. We measure this by our unaided brand awareness. Our world-class marketing team stands in a category of one. Their amazing work has increased unaided brand awareness to the 7% to 9% range, which is up about 40% year over year and 4x since 2021.
We added new wire capabilities and extended the AI-driven transactional fraud capabilities in our payment risk platform to non-processing partners. We also advanced the quality of our managed service in the cloud and introduced 3DS, which adds another layer of security to digital card transactions. These improvements ensure our modern, cloud-based platform will continue to serve the needs of brands, fintechs, and global financial institutions alike. Having world-class products is a necessary factor in becoming a top 10 financial institution, but it's not enough. We must also become a trusted household brand name. We measure this by our unaided brand awareness. Our world-class marketing team stands in a category of one. Their amazing work has increased unaided brand awareness to the 7% to 9% range, which is up about 40% year over year and 4x since 2021.
Speaker Change: We expanded our Buy Now, Pay Later product for post-purchase use. We added new wire capabilities and extended the AI-driven transactional fraud capabilities in our payment risk platform to non-processing partners.
Speaker Change: We also advanced the quality of our managed service in the cloud and introduced 3DS, which adds another layer of security to digital card transactions.
Anthony Noto: These improvements ensure our modern, cloud-based platform will continue to serve the needs of brands, FinTechs, and global financial institutions alike. Having world-class products is a necessary factor in becoming a top ten financial institution, but it's not enough. We must also become a trusted household brand name. We measure this by our unaided brand awareness. Our world-class marketing team stands in a category of one.
Speaker Change: These improvements ensure our modern, cloud-based platform will continue to serve the needs of brands, FinTechs, and global financial institutions alike.
Speaker Change: Having world-class products is a necessary factor in becoming a top 10 financial institution, but it's not enough.
Speaker Change: We must also become a trusted household brand name. We measure this by our unaided brand awareness.
Anthony Noto: Their amazing work has increased unneeded brand awareness to the 7% to 9% range, which is up about 40% year over year and 4x since 2021. Our brand punches way above its weight as our team continues to make its footprint bigger than its foot. Now diving into our segment results. In the financial services segment, we are seeing the continued benefits of structural advantages that drive our leading value proposition. We reported a record segment of revenue of $176 million, up 80% from $98 million in the year-ago quarter. Importantly, this drove contribution profit of $55 million compared to a loss of $4 million one year earlier.
Speaker Change: Our world-class marketing team stands in a category of one.
Speaker Change: Their amazing work has increased unaided brand awareness to the 7-9% range, which is up about 40% year-over-year, and 4x since 2021. Our brand punches way above its weight as our team continues to make its footprint bigger than its foot.
Anthony Noto: Our brand punches way above its weight as our team continues to make its footprint bigger than its foot. Now diving into our segment results in financial services segment, we are seeing the continued benefits of structural advantages that drive our leading value proposition. We reported record segment revenue of $176 million, up 80% from $98 million in the year ago quarter. Importantly, this drove contribution profit of $55 million compared to a loss of $4 million one year earlier. Financial services products grew 865,000 in the quarter, up 48% year over year. Adjusting for our exit from crypto last year, revenue per product grew 8% quarter over quarter and 29% year over year. We believe there's substantial upside to the monetization of our financial services products. SoFi Money achieved new records this quarter as ending deposits totaled $23 billion, with consumer deposits up $2.2 billion from the previous quarter.
Our brand punches way above its weight as our team continues to make its footprint bigger than its foot. Now diving into our segment results in financial services segment, we are seeing the continued benefits of structural advantages that drive our leading value proposition. We reported record segment revenue of $176 million, up 80% from $98 million in the year ago quarter. Importantly, this drove contribution profit of $55 million compared to a loss of $4 million one year earlier. Financial services products grew 865,000 in the quarter, up 48% year over year. Adjusting for our exit from crypto last year, revenue per product grew 8% quarter over quarter and 29% year over year. We believe there's substantial upside to the monetization of our financial services products. SoFi Money achieved new records this quarter as ending deposits totaled $23 billion, with consumer deposits up $2.2 billion from the previous quarter.
Anthony Noto: Financial Services products grew $865,000 in the quarter, up 48% year-over-year; adjusting for exit from crypto last, revenue per product grew 8% quarter-by-quarter and 29% year-over-year. We believe there's substantial upside to the monetization of our financial services product. SoFi Money achieved new records this quarter as ending deposits totaled $23 billion, with consumer deposits up $2.2 billion from the previous quarter.
Speaker Change: Now, diving into our segment results. In financial services segment, we are seeing the continued benefits of structural advantages that drive our leading value proposition.
Speaker Change: We reported a record segment of revenue of $176 million, up 80% from $98 million in the year-ago quarter. Importantly, this drove contribution profit of $55 million compared to a loss of $4 million one year earlier.
Speaker Change: Financial Services products grew $865,000 in the quarter, up 48% year-over-year, adjusting for our exit from crypto last year.
Speaker Change: Revenue per product grew 8% quarter per quarter and 29% year-over-year. We believe there's substantial upside to the monetization of our financial services products.
Speaker Change: SoFi Money achieved new records this quarter as ending deposits totaled $23 billion, with consumer deposits up $2.2 billion from the previous quarter. Account openings grew by 419,000, and 90% of our deposits remain tied to sticky direct deposit relationships.
Anthony Noto: Account openings grew by 419,090. Ninety percent of our deposits remain tied to sticky direct deposit relationships. Debit spend also continues to increase at a rapid pace, up 129% year over year and now annualizing at about $9 billion. Our credit card and invest businesses remain in investment mode with nearly $100 million in annualized losses, but we expect them to follow a similar path to money in achieving variable profit and contribution profit. In our credit card business, delinquency entry rates and roll rates improved by roughly 20% apiece from 2023 averages. Turning now to my fourth topic, our strong leadership across lending. We reported strong results despite our conservative posture given a 500 basis point increase in benchmark rates over the past two years and continued macro uncertainty.
Account openings grew by 419,090. Ninety percent of our deposits remain tied to sticky direct deposit relationships. Debit spend also continues to increase at a rapid pace, up 129% year over year and now annualizing at about $9 billion. Our credit card and invest businesses remain in investment mode with nearly $100 million in annualized losses, but we expect them to follow a similar path to money in achieving variable profit and contribution profit. In our credit card business, delinquency entry rates and roll rates improved by roughly 20% apiece from 2023 averages. Turning now to my fourth topic, our strong leadership across lending. We reported strong results despite our conservative posture given a 500 basis point increase in benchmark rates over the past two years and continued macro uncertainty.
Anthony Noto: Account openings grew by 419,000, and 90% of our deposits remain tied to sticky direct deposit relationships. Debit spend also continues to increase at a rapid pace, up 129% year-over-year and now annualizing at about $9 billion. Our credit card and investment businesses remain in investment mode with nearly $100 million in annualized losses, but we expect them to follow a similar path to money and achieving variable profit and contribution profit. In our credit card business, delinquency entry rates and roll rates improved by roughly 20% apiece from the 2023 average. Turning now to my fourth topic, our strong leadership across London.
Speaker Change: Debit spend also continues to increase at a rapid pace, up 129% year-over-year, and now annualizing at about $9 billion.
Speaker Change: Our credit card and investment businesses remain in investment mode with nearly $100 million in annualized losses, but we expect them to follow a similar path to money in achieving variable profit and contribution profit.
Speaker Change: In our credit card business, delinquency entry rates and roll rates improved by roughly 20% apiece from 2023 averages.
Anthony Noto: We reported strong results despite our conservative posture, given a 500 basis point increase in benchmark rates over the past two years and continued macro uncertainty. Importantly, net interest income reached an all-time high of $279 million, or 82% of lending revenue versus 72% one year ago and 45% two years ago. Net interest income is cash revenue. Let me say that again.
Speaker Change: Turning now to my fourth topic, our strong leadership across lending.
Speaker Change: We reported strong results despite our conservative posture, given a 500 basis point increase in benchmark rates over the past two years and continued in macro uncertainty.
Anthony Noto: Importantly, net interest income reached an all-time high of $279 million, or 82% of lending revenue, versus 72% one year ago and 45% two years ago. Net interest income is cash revenue. Let me say that again. Net interest income is cash revenue, so 82% of our lending revenue is cash. Notably, discount rates and spreads were largely unchanged, and in aggregate had a slight negative impact on lending revenue. Our personal loan originations reached a record of $4.2 billion while sticking to stringent underwriting standards, as our team demonstrated its grip by consistently iterating on pricing and marketing throughout the quarter. Our home loan originations were their highest since Q1 2022, growing 24% quarter over quarter and 71% year over year, despite interest rates at their highest level in 10 quarters.
Importantly, net interest income reached an all-time high of $279 million, or 82% of lending revenue, versus 72% one year ago and 45% two years ago. Net interest income is cash revenue. Let me say that again. Net interest income is cash revenue, so 82% of our lending revenue is cash. Notably, discount rates and spreads were largely unchanged, and in aggregate had a slight negative impact on lending revenue. Our personal loan originations reached a record of $4.2 billion while sticking to stringent underwriting standards, as our team demonstrated its grip by consistently iterating on pricing and marketing throughout the quarter. Our home loan originations were their highest since Q1 2022, growing 24% quarter over quarter and 71% year over year, despite interest rates at their highest level in 10 quarters.
Anthony Noto: Net interest income is cash revenue, so 82% of our lending revenue is cash. Notably, discount rates and spreads were largely unchanged and, in aggregate, had a slight negative impact on lending rates. Our personal loan originations reached a record of $4.2 billion while sticking to stringent underwriting standards as our team demonstrated its grip by consistently iterating on pricing and marketing throughout the quarter. Our home loan originations were their highest since Q1 of 2022, growing 24% quarter over quarter and 71% year over year, despite interest rates at their highest level in 10 quarters.
Speaker Change: Importantly, net interest income reached an all-time high of $279 million, or 82% of lending revenue versus 72% one year ago and 45% two years ago.
Speaker Change: Net interest income is cash revenue. Let me say that again. Net interest income is cash revenue. So 82% of our lending revenue is cash. Notably, discount rates and spreads were largely unchanged and in aggregate had a slight negative impact on lending revenue.
Speaker Change: Our personal loan originations reached a record of $4.2 billion while sticking to stringent underwriting standards as our team demonstrated its grip by consistently iterating on pricing and marketing throughout the quarter.
Anthony Noto: On top of that, purchase home loan volume was our highest ever, growing 25% from Q1 2024 and nearly 100% year over year. Once rates come down, we expect to benefit from our expansion into three products in home lending, purchase loans, home equity loans, and the volume already generated by our financing business. Student loan originations grew 86% year-over-year.
Speaker Change: Our home loan originations were their highest since Q1 of 2022, growing 24% quarter-over-quarter and 71% year-over-year, despite interest rates at their highest level in 10 quarters.
Anthony Noto: On top of that, purchase home loan volume was our highest ever, growing 25% from Q1 2024, and nearly 100% year over year. Once rates come down, we expect to benefit from our expansion into three products in home lending, purchase loans, home equity loans, and the volume already generated by our financing business. Student loan originations grew 86% year over year. The team drove our strongest Q2 of origination volume in three years by iterating to drive continuous improvement throughout the quarter and into Q3 with private loan refinancing, which exemplifies our ability to respond to environmental factors to drive results, and my fifth topic, the Tech Platform segment is making good progress on its journey to become not only the AWS of fintech, but of financial services more broadly.
On top of that, purchase home loan volume was our highest ever, growing 25% from Q1 2024, and nearly 100% year over year. Once rates come down, we expect to benefit from our expansion into three products in home lending, purchase loans, home equity loans, and the volume already generated by our financing business. Student loan originations grew 86% year over year. The team drove our strongest Q2 of origination volume in three years by iterating to drive continuous improvement throughout the quarter and into Q3 with private loan refinancing, which exemplifies our ability to respond to environmental factors to drive results, and my fifth topic, the Tech Platform segment is making good progress on its journey to become not only the AWS of fintech, but of financial services more broadly.
Speaker Change: On top of that, purchase home loan volume was our highest ever, growing 25% from Q1 2024 and nearly 100% year-over-year.
Speaker Change: Once rates come down, we expect to benefit from our expansion into three products in home lending. Purchase loans, home equity loans, and the volume already generated by our financing business.
Anthony Noto: The team drove our strongest Q2 of origination volume in three years by iterating to drive continuous improvement throughout the quarter and into Q3 with private loan refinancing, which exemplifies our ability to respond to environmental factors to drive results. And my fifth topic, the tech platform segment, is making good progress on its journey to become not only the AWS of FinTech but of financial services more broadly. We recorded segment revenue of $95 million, up 9% year-over-year, and contribution profit of $31 million, up 82% year-over-year at a 33% margin.
Speaker Change: Student loan originations grew 86 percent year-over-year. The team drove our strongest Q2 of origination volume in three years by iterating to drive continuous improvement throughout the quarter and into Q3 with private loan refinancing.
Speaker Change: which exemplifies our ability to respond to environmental factors to drive results.
Speaker Change: And my fifth topic, the tech platform segment is making good progress on its journey to become not only the AWS of FinTech, but of financial services more broadly.
Anthony Noto: We recorded segment revenue of $95 million, up 9% year over year, and contribution profit of $31 million, up 82% year over year at a 33% margin. This represents our fourth consecutive quarter of over 30% margin. Our customer wins have been more diverse, including, but not limited to, secure card and B2B partners. Our pipeline of interest remains robust and includes US and international financial institutions, along with major consumer and commercial brands. As we have noted, we are pursuing enterprise partnerships with larger existing customer bases for more durable revenue opportunities. These partnerships take multiple quarters, not months, to win, and have even longer integration cycles due to their size and complexity. In closing, the quarter was exceptional. We continue to demonstrate a record of strong, diversified growth, even in uncertain times.
We recorded segment revenue of $95 million, up 9% year over year, and contribution profit of $31 million, up 82% year over year at a 33% margin. This represents our fourth consecutive quarter of over 30% margin. Our customer wins have been more diverse, including, but not limited to, secure card and B2B partners. Our pipeline of interest remains robust and includes US and international financial institutions, along with major consumer and commercial brands. As we have noted, we are pursuing enterprise partnerships with larger existing customer bases for more durable revenue opportunities. These partnerships take multiple quarters, not months, to win, and have even longer integration cycles due to their size and complexity. In closing, the quarter was exceptional. We continue to demonstrate a record of strong, diversified growth, even in uncertain times.
Speaker Change: We recorded segment revenue of $95 million, up 9% year-over-year, and contribution profit of $31 million, up 82% year-over-year, at a 33% margin. This represents our fourth consecutive quarter of over 30% margin.
Anthony Noto: This represents our fourth consecutive quarter of over 30% margin. Our customer wins have been more diverse, including but not limited to Secure Card and B2B Partners. Our pipeline of interest remains robust and includes U.S. and international financial institutions, along with major consumer and commercial brands. As we have noted, we are pursuing enterprise partnerships with larger existing customer bases for more durable revenue opportunities. These partnerships take multiple quarters, not months, to win, and have even longer integration cycles due to their size and complexity.
Speaker Change: Our customer wins have been more diverse, including but not limited to Secure Card and D2D partners.
Speaker Change: Our pipeline of interest remains robust and includes U.S. and international financial institutions, along with major consumer and commercial brands.
Speaker Change: As we have noted, we are pursuing enterprise partnerships with larger existing customer bases for more durable revenue opportunities. These partnerships take multiple quarters, not months to win, and have even longer integration cycles due to their size and complexity.
Anthony Noto: In closing, the quarter was exceptional. We continue to demonstrate a record of strong, diversified growth, even in uncertain times. The performance of our leaders and the grit of our team was the best I've seen in my seven years here.
Speaker Change: In closing, the quarter was exceptional.
Speaker Change: We continue to demonstrate a record of strong, diversified growth, even in uncertain times. The performance of our leaders and the grittiness of our team was the best I've seen in my seven years here. Suffice it to say, I cannot wait to see what we achieve in a better climate.
Anthony Noto: The performance of our leaders and the grittiness of our team was the best I've seen in my seven years here. Suffice it to say, I cannot wait to see what we achieve in a better climate. Combining our high member growth, product innovation, lower benchmark rates, unemployment at 4 to 5%, stable inflation, and a stable economy, I could not be more confident in our ability to achieve our ambitions. With that, I'll turn it over to Chris for a deeper look at the results.
The performance of our leaders and the grittiness of our team was the best I've seen in my seven years here. Suffice it to say, I cannot wait to see what we achieve in a better climate. Combining our high member growth, product innovation, lower benchmark rates, unemployment at 4 to 5%, stable inflation, and a stable economy, I could not be more confident in our ability to achieve our ambitions. With that, I'll turn it over to Chris for a deeper look at the results.
Anthony Noto: Suffice it to say, I cannot wait to see what we achieve in a better climate. Combining our high member growth and product innovation with lower benchmark rates, unemployment at four to five percent, stable inflation, and a stable economy, I could not be more confident in our ability to achieve our ambition. With that, I'll turn it over to Chris for a deeper look at the results. Thanks, Anthony.
Speaker Change: Combining our high member growth and product innovation with lower benchmark rates, unemployment at 4-5%, stable inflation, and a stable economy, I could not be more confident in our ability to achieve our ambitions.
Chris Lapointe: Thanks Anthony. The second quarter was underscored by continued execution, profitability, and increased diversification, strong evidence of how our differentiated business model drives SoFi's durability and long-term growth potential. I'm going to walk through key financial highlights in our Financial Outlook. Unless otherwise stated, I'll be referring to adjusted results for the second quarter of 2024 versus the second quarter of 2023. Our GAAP consolidated income statement and all reconciliations can be found in today's earnings release and the subsequent 10Q filing, which will be made available next month. For the quarter, we delivered record adjusted net revenue of $597 million, which grew 22% year over year. Adjusted EBITDA was $138 million at a 23% margin. This represented over 7 points of year-over-year margin improvement, demonstrating significant operating leverage.
Chris Lapointe: Thanks Anthony. The second quarter was underscored by continued execution, profitability, and increased diversification, strong evidence of how our differentiated business model drives SoFi's durability and long-term growth potential. I'm going to walk through key financial highlights in our Financial Outlook. Unless otherwise stated, I'll be referring to adjusted results for the second quarter of 2024 versus the second quarter of 2023. Our GAAP consolidated income statement and all reconciliations can be found in today's earnings release and the subsequent 10Q filing, which will be made available next month. For the quarter, we delivered record adjusted net revenue of $597 million, which grew 22% year over year. Adjusted EBITDA was $138 million at a 23% margin. This represented over 7 points of year-over-year margin improvement, demonstrating significant operating leverage.
Chris Lapointe: The second quarter was underscored by continued execution, profitability, and increased diversification, strong evidence of how our differentiated business model drives SoFi's durability and long-term growth. I'm going to walk through key financial highlights in our financial outlook. Unless otherwise stated, I'll be referring to adjusted results for the second quarter of 2024 versus the second quarter of 2023. Our GAAP Consolidated Income Statement and all reconciliations can be found in today's earnings release and the subsequent 10-Q filing, which will be made available next month.
Speaker Change: With that, I'll turn it over to Chris for a deeper look at the results.
Chris Lapointe: Thanks, Anthony. The second quarter was underscored by continued execution, profitability, and increased diversification, strong evidence of how our differentiated business model drives SoFi's durability and long-term growth potential.
Chris Lapointe: I'm going to walk through key financial highlights in our financial outlook. Unless otherwise stated, I'll be referring to adjusted results for the second quarter of 2024 versus second quarter of 2023.
Chris Lapointe: Our GAAP Consolidated Income Statement and all reconciliations can be found in today's earnings release and the subsequent 10Q filing, which will be made available next month.
Chris Lapointe: For the quarter, we delivered record-adjusted net revenue of $597 million, which grew 22% year-over-year. Adjusted EBITDA was $138 million at a 23% margin. This represented over 7 points of year-over-year margin improvement, demonstrating significant operating leverage. However, sales and marketing declined as a percentage of adjusted net revenue by 6 points relative to the year-ago quarter.
Chris Lapointe: For the quarter, we delivered record-adjusted net revenue of $597 million, which grew 22% year-over-year.
Chris Lapointe: Adjusted EBITDA was $138 million at a 23% margin.
Chris Lapointe: This represented over 7 points of year-over-year margin improvement, demonstrating significant operating leverage.
Chris Lapointe: In fact, sales and marketing declined as a percentage of adjusted net revenue by 6 points relative to the year ago. Quarter we delivered our third quarter of GAAP profitability with GAAP net income reaching $17.4 million, a $65 million improvement year over year, and GAAP EPS of $0.01 per share. Now onto the segment level performance in lending, we achieved adjusted net revenue of $339 million with $198 million of contribution profit at a 58% margin. These results were driven by 20% year over year growth in net interest income, while noninterest income was down 38% as planned. Growth in net interest income was driven by a 40% year over year increase in average interest earning assets and a 27 basis point year over year increase in average yields. This resulted in an average net interest margin of 5.83% for the quarter, up 9 basis points year over year.
In fact, sales and marketing declined as a percentage of adjusted net revenue by 6 points relative to the year ago. Quarter we delivered our third quarter of GAAP profitability with GAAP net income reaching $17.4 million, a $65 million improvement year over year, and GAAP EPS of $0.01 per share. Now onto the segment level performance in lending, we achieved adjusted net revenue of $339 million with $198 million of contribution profit at a 58% margin. These results were driven by 20% year over year growth in net interest income, while noninterest income was down 38% as planned. Growth in net interest income was driven by a 40% year over year increase in average interest earning assets and a 27 basis point year over year increase in average yields. This resulted in an average net interest margin of 5.83% for the quarter, up 9 basis points year over year.
Chris Lapointe: In fact, sales and marketing declined as a percentage of adjusted net revenue by 6 points relative to the year-ago quarter.
Chris Lapointe: We delivered our third quarter of GAP profitability with GAP net income reaching $17.4 million, a $65 million improvement year over year, and GAP EPS of one cent per share. Now on to the segment-level performance. In lending, we achieved adjusted net revenue of $339 million, with $198 million of contribution profit at a 58% margin. These results were driven by 20% year-over-year growth in net interest income, while non-interest income was down 38%, as planned.
Chris Lapointe: We delivered our third quarter of GAP profitability with GAP net income reaching $17.4 million, a $65 million improvement year-over-year, and GAP EPS of one cent per share.
Chris Lapointe: Now on to the segment-level performance.
Chris Lapointe: In lending, we achieved a just-in-net revenue of $339 million with $198 million of contribution profit at a 58% margin.
Chris Lapointe: These results were driven by 20% year-over-year growth in net interest income, while non-interest income was down 38% as planned.
Chris Lapointe: Growth in net interest income was driven by a 40% year-over-year increase in average interest-earning assets and a 27 basis point year-over-year increase in average yields. This resulted in an average net interest margin of 5.83% for the quarter, up 9 basis points year-over-year. In terms of non-interest income, Q2 originations grew 22% year-over-year to $5.3 billion, and were driven by a record quarter in personal loan originations, which grew 12% year-over-year and 28% sequentially to $4.2 billion. Our student loans business saw our origination volume grow 86% year over year, with a slight 2% decline sequentially to $737 million. Home loans grew by 71% year-over-year and 24% sequentially to $417 million.
Chris Lapointe: Growth in net interest income was driven by a 40% year-over-year increase in average interest earning assets and a 27 basis point year-over-year increase in average yields.
Chris Lapointe: This resulted in an average net interest margin of 5.83% for the quarter, up 9 basis points year-over-year.
Chris Lapointe: In terms of non-interest income, Q2 originations grew 22% year over year to $5.3 billion and were driven by a record quarter in personal loan originations, which grew 12% year over year and 28% sequentially to $4.2 billion. Our student loans business saw origination volume grow 86% year over year, with a slight 2% decline sequentially to $737 million. Home loans grew by 71% year over year and 24% sequentially to $417 million. Our personal loan borrower's weighted average income is $168,000, with a weighted average FICO score of 747. Our student loan borrower's weighted average income is $137,000, with a weighted average FICO score of 764. In the second quarter, we sold portions of our personal loan and home loan portfolios totaling nearly $1.6 billion. In terms of the personal loan sales, we closed $1.1 billion of principal at a blended execution of 106.2%.
In terms of non-interest income, Q2 originations grew 22% year over year to $5.3 billion and were driven by a record quarter in personal loan originations, which grew 12% year over year and 28% sequentially to $4.2 billion. Our student loans business saw origination volume grow 86% year over year, with a slight 2% decline sequentially to $737 million. Home loans grew by 71% year over year and 24% sequentially to $417 million. Our personal loan borrower's weighted average income is $168,000, with a weighted average FICO score of 747. Our student loan borrower's weighted average income is $137,000, with a weighted average FICO score of 764. In the second quarter, we sold portions of our personal loan and home loan portfolios totaling nearly $1.6 billion. In terms of the personal loan sales, we closed $1.1 billion of principal at a blended execution of 106.2%.
Chris Lapointe: In terms of non-interest income, Q2 originations grew 22% year-over-year to $5.3 billion and were driven by a record quarter in personal loan originations, which grew 12% year-over-year and 28% sequentially to $4.2 billion.
Chris Lapointe: Our student loans business saw our origination volume grow 86% year-over-year, with a slight 2% decline sequentially, to $737 million.
Chris Lapointe: Home loans grew by 71% year-over-year and 24% sequentially to $417 million.
Chris Lapointe: Our personal loan borrower's weighted average income is $168,000 with a weighted average FICO score of 747. Our student loan borrower's weighted average income is $137,000 with a weighted average FICO score of 764. In the second quarter, we sold portions of our personal loan and home loan portfolios for totaling nearly $1.6 billion. In terms of the personal loan sales, we closed $1.1 billion of principal at a blended execution of 106.2%. These sales had similar structures to other recent personal loan sales, with cash proceeds in line with par or at a small premium to par, with the majority of the execution premium consisting of a contractual servicing fee that is capitalized.
Chris Lapointe: Our personal loan borrower's weighted average income is $168,000 with a weighted average FICO score of 747.
Chris Lapointe: Our student loan borrower's weighted average income is $137,000 with a weighted average FICO score of 764.
Chris Lapointe: In the second quarter, we sold portions of our personal loan and home loan portfolios totaling nearly $1.6 billion.
Chris Lapointe: In terms of the personal loan sales, we closed $1.1 billion of principal at a blended execution of 106.2%.
Chris Lapointe: These sales had similar structures to other recent personal loan sales, with cash proceeds in line with par or at a small premium to par, with the majority of the execution premium consisting of a contractual servicing fee that is capitalized. These deals included a small loss share provision that is above our base assumption of losses and immaterial relative to the exposure we would otherwise have if we held the loans. Our $381 million of home loan sales were sold at a blended execution of 101.9%. Additionally, we sold $69 million of late stage delinquent personal loans in the quarter. We noted last quarter that we typically have not sold delinquent loans until such time that they are charged off.
These sales had similar structures to other recent personal loan sales, with cash proceeds in line with par or at a small premium to par, with the majority of the execution premium consisting of a contractual servicing fee that is capitalized. These deals included a small loss share provision that is above our base assumption of losses and immaterial relative to the exposure we would otherwise have if we held the loans. Our $381 million of home loan sales were sold at a blended execution of 101.9%. Additionally, we sold $69 million of late stage delinquent personal loans in the quarter. We noted last quarter that we typically have not sold delinquent loans until such time that they are charged off.
Chris Lapointe: These sales had similar structures to other recent personal loan sales, with cash proceeds in line with par, or at a small premium to par, with the majority of the execution premium consisting of a contractual servicing fee that is capitalized.
Chris Lapointe: These deals included a small loss share provision that is above our base assumption of losses and immaterial relative to the exposure we would otherwise have if we held the loan. Our $381 million of home loan sales were sold at a blended execution of 101.9%. Additionally, we sold $69 million of late-stage delinquent personal loans in the quarter. We noted last quarter that we typically do not sell delinquent loans until such time as they are charged off.
Chris Lapointe: These deals included a small loss share provision that is above our base assumption of losses and immaterial relative to the exposure we would otherwise have if we held the loans.
Chris Lapointe: Our $381 million of home loan sales was sold at a blended execution of 101.9%.
Chris Lapointe: Additionally, we sold $69 million of late-stage delinquent personal loans in the quarter.
Chris Lapointe: We noted last quarter that we typically have not sold delinquent loans until such time that they are charged off.
Chris Lapointe: However, we have been able to generate positive incremental value in these sales relative to selling after they charge off, both from our improved recovery capabilities and by maintaining servicing. Finally, we executed $989 million of senior secured financing, which will show up on our detailed balance sheet as senior secured loans held for investment at amortized cost. These loans have a fixed term structure and are secured against the underlying assets, therefore equivalent to investment grade bonds if you were to do a securitization for the same pool of collateral. In addition, these loans are priced at market rates, which not only helps to diversify our balance sheet, but also provides an additional return above our cost of funding and a yield similar to the net interest margin of our loans, which are unsecured.
However, we have been able to generate positive incremental value in these sales relative to selling after they charge off, both from our improved recovery capabilities and by maintaining servicing. Finally, we executed $989 million of senior secured financing, which will show up on our detailed balance sheet as senior secured loans held for investment at amortized cost. These loans have a fixed term structure and are secured against the underlying assets, therefore equivalent to investment grade bonds if you were to do a securitization for the same pool of collateral. In addition, these loans are priced at market rates, which not only helps to diversify our balance sheet, but also provides an additional return above our cost of funding and a yield similar to the net interest margin of our loans, which are unsecured.
Chris Lapointe: However, we've been able to generate positive incremental value in these sales relative to selling after they charge off, both from our improved recovery capabilities and by maintaining service. Finally, we executed $989 million of senior-secured financing, which will show up on our detailed balance sheet as senior-secured loans held for investment at amortized costs. These loans have a fixed-term structure and are secured against the underlying assets, therefore equivalent to investment-grade bonds if you were to do a securitization for the same pool of collateral.
Chris Lapointe: However, we have been able to generate positive incremental value in these sales relative to selling after they charge off, both from our improved recovery capabilities and by maintaining servicing.
Chris Lapointe: Finally, we executed $989 million of Senior Secured Financing, which will show up on our detailed balance sheet as Senior Secured Loans held for investment at amortized costs.
Chris Lapointe: These loans have a fixed-term structure and are secured against the underlying assets, therefore equivalent to investment-grade bonds if you were to do a securitization for the same pool of collateral.
Chris Lapointe: In addition, these loans are priced at market rates, which not only helps to diversify our balance sheet but also provides an additional return above our cost of funding and a yield similar to the net interest margin on our loans, which are unsecured. Turning to credit performance, our on-bound sheet 90-day personal loan delinquency rate was 64 basis points in the quarter, a decrease from 72 basis points in Q1, which is evidence of surpassing a. Our personal loan annualized charge-off rate increased to 3.84% from 3.45% in Q1 2024, including the impact of asset sales, new originations, and the delinquency sale in the quarter. Had we not sold these late-stage delinquencies, we estimate that recoveries would be between 90 and 120 days delinquent.
Chris Lapointe: In addition, these loans are priced at market rates, which not only helps to diversify our balance sheet, but also provides an additional return above our cost of funding and a yield similar to the net interest margin of our loans, which are unsecured.
Chris Lapointe: Turning to credit performance, our on-balance-sheet 90 day personal loan delinquency rate was 64 basis points in the quarter, a decrease from 72 basis points in Q1, which is evidence of surpassing a peak. Our personal loan annualized charge-off rate increased to 3.84% from 3.45% in Q1 2024, including the impact of asset sales, new originations, and the delinquency sale in the quarter. Had we not sold these late-stage delinquencies, we estimate that including recoveries between 90 and 120 days delinquent, we would have had an all-in annualized net charge-off for personal loans of approximately 5.4%. For our student loans, our on-balance-sheet 90 day delinquency rate was 12 basis points versus 13 basis points last quarter, while our annualized loan charge-off rate was 64 basis points.
Turning to credit performance, our on-balance-sheet 90 day personal loan delinquency rate was 64 basis points in the quarter, a decrease from 72 basis points in Q1, which is evidence of surpassing a peak. Our personal loan annualized charge-off rate increased to 3.84% from 3.45% in Q1 2024, including the impact of asset sales, new originations, and the delinquency sale in the quarter. Had we not sold these late-stage delinquencies, we estimate that including recoveries between 90 and 120 days delinquent, we would have had an all-in annualized net charge-off for personal loans of approximately 5.4%. For our student loans, our on-balance-sheet 90 day delinquency rate was 12 basis points versus 13 basis points last quarter, while our annualized loan charge-off rate was 64 basis points.
Chris Lapointe: Turning to credit performance, our on-bound sheet 90-day personal loan delinquency rate was 64 basis points in the quarter, a decrease from 72 basis points in Q1, which is evidence of surpassing a peak.
Chris Lapointe: Our personal loan annualized charge-off rate increased to 3.84% from 3.45% in Q1 2024, including the impact of asset sales, new originations, and the delinquency sale in the quarter.
Chris Lapointe: Had we not sold these late-stage delinquencies, we estimate that including recoveries between 90 and 120 days delinquent, we would have had an all-in annualized net charge-off for personal loans of approximately 5.4 percent.
Chris Lapointe: We would have had an all-in annualized net charge-off for personal loans of approximately $5.4 billion. For our student loans, our on-balance sheet 90-day delinquency rate was 12 basis points versus 13 basis points last quarter, while our annualized loan charge-off rate was 64 basis points. That brings me to an important point.
Chris Lapointe: For our student loans, our on-balance sheet 90-day delinquency rate was 12 basis points versus 13 basis points last quarter, while our annualized loan charge off rate was 64 basis points.
Chris Lapointe: That brings me to an important point, an in-depth look at cumulative net losses on several of our personal loan vintages and how this underscores comfort in our 7% to 8% maximum life loan loss assumptions in line with our underwriting tolerance. As you can see on page 8 of our investor presentation, a loan vintage analysis indicates the following. Using our 2017 vintage as a starting point, as this is the last that approached 8% life loan losses at 7.85%, you can see significant improvement in cumulative net losses at a given percentage of remaining unpaid principal for more recent 2022 and 2023 vintages. Specifically, looking at the Q4 2022 vintage soon after we made material cuts to credit at roughly 40% of remaining unpaid principal.
That brings me to an important point, an in-depth look at cumulative net losses on several of our personal loan vintages and how this underscores comfort in our 7% to 8% maximum life loan loss assumptions in line with our underwriting tolerance. As you can see on page 8 of our investor presentation, a loan vintage analysis indicates the following. Using our 2017 vintage as a starting point, as this is the last that approached 8% life loan losses at 7.85%, you can see significant improvement in cumulative net losses at a given percentage of remaining unpaid principal for more recent 2022 and 2023 vintages. Specifically, looking at the Q4 2022 vintage soon after we made material cuts to credit at roughly 40% of remaining unpaid principal.
Chris Lapointe: An in-depth look at cumulative net losses on several of our personal loan vintages and how this underscores comfort in our seven to 8% maximum life alone loss assumptions in line with our underwriting tolerance. As you can see on page eight of our investor presentation, a loan vintage analysis indicates the following. Using our 2017 vintage as a starting point, as this is the last that approached 8% life alone losses at 7.85%, you can see a significant improvement in cumulative net losses at a given percentage of remaining unpaid principal for more recent 2022 and 2023 vintages.
Chris Lapointe: That brings me to an important point, an in-depth look at cumulative net losses on several of our personal loan vintages and how this underscores comfort in our 7-8% maximum life of loan loss assumptions in line with our underwriting tolerance.
Chris Lapointe: As you can see on page 8 of our investor presentation, a loan vintage analysis indicates the following.
Speaker Change: Using our 2017 vintage as a starting point, as this is the last that approached 8% life alone losses at 7.85%, you can see significant improvement in cumulative net losses at a given percentage of remaining unpaid principal for more recent 2022 and 2023 vintages.
Chris Lapointe: Specifically, looking at the Q4 2022 vintage, soon after we made material cuts to credit, at roughly 40% of remaining unpaid principal, net cumulative losses of 5.02% are well below the 6.07% observed in the 2017 vintage at that same point of 40% remaining principal balance. In addition, you can see that more recent vintages are performing as well or better than the Q4 2022 loans at similar levels of remaining unpaid principal. Furthermore, looking at page 9 in the investor presentation, you will notice that only 44% of unpaid principal remains from our Q1 2020 through Q1 2024 origination. Furthermore, among the 56% of principal that has already been paid down, we've seen only 3% in net cumulative losses.
Speaker Change: Specifically looking at the Q4 2022 Vintage.
Speaker Change: Soon after we made material cuts to credit, at roughly 40% of remaining unpaid principal, net cumulative losses of 5.02% are well below the 6.07% observed in the 2017 vintage at that same point of 40% remaining principal balance.
Chris Lapointe: Net cumulative losses of 5.02% are well below the 6.07% observed in the 2017 vintage at that same point of 40% remaining principal balance. In addition, you can see that more recent vintages are performing as well or better than the Q4 2022 loans at similar levels of remaining unpaid principal. This is critically important, as this analysis and comparison gives us confidence that our loans will continue to perform in line to better than our tolerance. Furthermore, looking at Page 9 in the investor presentation, you will notice that only 44% of unpaid principal remains from our Q1 2020 through Q1 2024 originations. Among the 56% of principal that has already been paid down, we've seen only 3% in net cumulative losses for life alone losses on this entire cohort of loans.
Net cumulative losses of 5.02% are well below the 6.07% observed in the 2017 vintage at that same point of 40% remaining principal balance. In addition, you can see that more recent vintages are performing as well or better than the Q4 2022 loans at similar levels of remaining unpaid principal. This is critically important, as this analysis and comparison gives us confidence that our loans will continue to perform in line to better than our tolerance. Furthermore, looking at Page 9 in the investor presentation, you will notice that only 44% of unpaid principal remains from our Q1 2020 through Q1 2024 originations. Among the 56% of principal that has already been paid down, we've seen only 3% in net cumulative losses for life alone losses on this entire cohort of loans.
Speaker Change: In addition, you can see that more recent vintages are performing as well or better than the Q4 2022 loans at similar levels of remaining unpaid principal.
Speaker Change: This is critically important as this analysis and comparison gives us confidence that our loans will continue to perform in line to better than our tolerance.
Speaker Change: Furthermore, looking at page 9 in the investor presentation, you will notice that only 44% of unpaid principal remains from our Q1 2020 through Q1 2024 originations.
Speaker Change: Among the 56% of principal that has already been paid down, we've seen only 3% in net cumulative losses.
Chris Lapointe: To reach 8% net cumulative losses, the remaining unpaid principal would need to charge off at a rate of 11%. Past vintages have performed meaningfully better after this point in the seasoning curve, further improving our confidence in achieving loss rates below 8%. Now turning to our fair value marks and key assumptions, our personal loans are marked at 104.3%, five basis points higher quarter over quarter, with a negligible change in the discount rate. For our student loan portfolio, the fair value mark decreased by 17 basis points to 103.6%, while the discount rate rose by 10 basis points to 4.44% due to rising rates and a wider spread overall. Sequential changes in spreads and discount rates had a negative impact on reported revenue.
To reach 8% net cumulative losses, the remaining unpaid principal would need to charge off at a rate of 11%. Past vintages have performed meaningfully better after this point in the seasoning curve, further improving our confidence in achieving loss rates below 8%. Now turning to our fair value marks and key assumptions, our personal loans are marked at 104.3%, five basis points higher quarter over quarter, with a negligible change in the discount rate. For our student loan portfolio, the fair value mark decreased by 17 basis points to 103.6%, while the discount rate rose by 10 basis points to 4.44% due to rising rates and a wider spread overall. Sequential changes in spreads and discount rates had a negative impact on reported revenue.
Speaker Change: For life alone losses on this entire cohort of loans to reach 8% net cumulative losses, the remaining unpaid principal would need to charge off at a rate of 11%.
Speaker Change: Past vintages have performed meaningfully better after this point in the seasoning curve, further improving our confidence in achieving loss rates below 8%.
Chris Lapointe: For life alone losses on this entire cohort of loans to reach 8% net cumulative losses, the remaining unpaid principal would need to be charged off at a rate of 11%. Now, turning to our Fair Value Marks and Key Assumptions. Our personal loans are marked at 104.3%, five basis points higher quarter over quarter, with a negligible change in the discount. Moving on to financial services, where net revenue of $176 million increased 80% year-over-year with new all-time high revenue for SoFi Money and our loan platform business, as well as continued contributions from SoFi Invest and Credit. Overall monetization continues to improve with annualized revenue per product of $64 up nearly 29% year-over-year versus $50 in Q2 2023.
Speaker Change: Now turning to our fair value marks and key assumptions.
Speaker Change: Our personal loans are marked at 104.3%, five basis points higher quarter over quarter, with a negligible change in the discount rate.
Speaker Change: For our student loan portfolio, the fair value mark decreased by 17 basis points to 103.6%, while the discount rate rose by 10 basis points to 4.44% due to rising rates and a wider spread.
Speaker Change: Overall, sequential changes in spreads and discount rates had a negative impact on reported revenue.
Chris Lapointe: Moving on to financial services, where net revenue of $176 million increased 80% year over year, with new all-time high revenue for SoFi Money and our loan platform business, as well as continued contributions from SoFi Invest and Credit Card. Overall monetization continues to improve, with annualized revenue per product of $64, up nearly 29% year over year versus $50 in Q2 2023. This is driven by higher deposits and member spending levels in SoFi Money, greater assets under management and monetizable features in SoFi Invest, and robust growth within SoFi Credit Card spend. Net interest income of $139 million increased 87% year over year, which was primarily driven by growth in consumer deposits. Importantly, noninterest income grew 58% to $37 million in the quarter, which represents approximately $150 million in annualized revenue.
Moving on to financial services, where net revenue of $176 million increased 80% year over year, with new all-time high revenue for SoFi Money and our loan platform business, as well as continued contributions from SoFi Invest and Credit Card. Overall monetization continues to improve, with annualized revenue per product of $64, up nearly 29% year over year versus $50 in Q2 2023. This is driven by higher deposits and member spending levels in SoFi Money, greater assets under management and monetizable features in SoFi Invest, and robust growth within SoFi Credit Card spend. Net interest income of $139 million increased 87% year over year, which was primarily driven by growth in consumer deposits. Importantly, noninterest income grew 58% to $37 million in the quarter, which represents approximately $150 million in annualized revenue.
Speaker Change: Moving on to financial services, where net revenue of $176 million increased 80% year-over-year, with new all-time high revenue for SoFi Money and our Loan Platform business, as well as continued contributions from SoFi Invest and Credit Card.
Speaker Change: Overall monetization continues to improve with annualized revenue per product of $64 up nearly 29% year-over-year versus $50 in Q2 2023.
Chris Lapointe: This is driven by higher deposits and member spending levels in SoFi money, greater assets under management and monetizable features in SoFi Invest, and robust growth within SoFi credit cards. This was driven by interchange growth of 67% year-over-year as a result of over $10 billion in total annualized spend, as well as referrals from our loan platform business, which grew 66% versus the prior year period. Contribution profit reached $55 million at a 31% margin for the quarter, even as we continue to invest in innovation and new opportunities to rapidly grow this operating segment with attractive returns.
Speaker Change: This is driven by higher deposits and member spending levels in SoFi money, greater assets under management and monetizable features in SoFi Invest, and robust growth within SoFi credit card spend.
Speaker Change: That interest income of $139 million increased 87% year-over-year, which was primarily driven by growth in consumer deposits.
Speaker Change: Importantly, non-interest income grew 58% to $37 million in the quarter, which represents approximately $150 million in annualized revenue.
Chris Lapointe: This was driven by interchange growth of 67% year over year as a result of over $10 billion in total annualized spend, as well as our referrals from our loan platform business, which grew 66% versus the prior year period. Contribution profit reached $55 million at a 31% margin for the quarter, even as we continue to invest in innovation and new opportunities to rapidly grow this operating segment with attractive returns. Lastly, we reached 11 million financial services products in the quarter, which is up 39% year over year. With 865,000 new products in the quarter, we reached nearly 4.3 million products in SoFi Money, 2.3 million in SoFi Invest, and 3.9 million in SoFi Relay. Shifting to our tech platform segment, where we delivered net revenue of $95 million in the quarter, up 9% year over year and 1% sequentially.
This was driven by interchange growth of 67% year over year as a result of over $10 billion in total annualized spend, as well as our referrals from our loan platform business, which grew 66% versus the prior year period. Contribution profit reached $55 million at a 31% margin for the quarter, even as we continue to invest in innovation and new opportunities to rapidly grow this operating segment with attractive returns. Lastly, we reached 11 million financial services products in the quarter, which is up 39% year over year. With 865,000 new products in the quarter, we reached nearly 4.3 million products in SoFi Money, 2.3 million in SoFi Invest, and 3.9 million in SoFi Relay. Shifting to our tech platform segment, where we delivered net revenue of $95 million in the quarter, up 9% year over year and 1% sequentially.
Speaker Change: This was driven by interchange growth of 67% year-over-year as a result of over $10 billion in total annualized spend, as well as our referrals from our loan platform business, which grew 66% versus the prior year period.
Speaker Change: Contribution profit reached $55 million at a 31% margin for the quarter, even as we continue to invest in innovation and new opportunities to rapidly grow this operating segment with attractive returns.
Chris Lapointe: Lastly, we reached 11 million financial services products in the quarter, which is up 39% year-over-year, with 865,000 new products in the. Shifting to our tech platform segment, where we delivered net revenue of $95 million in the quarter, up 9% year-over-year and 1% sequentially. Revenue growth was driven by strong performance from new clients onboarded over the last four quarters, along with strong monetization of existing clients The segment delivered a contribution profit of $31 million, representing a 33% margin.
Speaker Change: Lastly, we reached 11 million financial services products in the quarter, which is up 39% year-over-year, with 865,000 new products in the quarter.
Speaker Change: We reached nearly 4.3 million products in SoFi Money, 2.3 million in SoFi and BESQ, and 3.9 million in Relay.
Speaker Change: Shifting to our tech platform segment, where we delivered net revenue of $95 million in the quarter, up 9% year-over-year and 1% sequentially.
Chris Lapointe: Revenue growth was driven by strong performance from new clients onboarded over the last four quarters, along with strong monetization of existing clients on our platform. Galileo accounts grew 23% year over year to 158 million. The segment delivered a contribution profit of $31 million, representing a 33% margin. We continue to leverage investments made in the segment as we continue to position tech platform for higher rates of diversified, durable growth going forward. As mentioned earlier, a strong pipeline of interest spans financial institutions, along with major consumer and commercial brands representing larger and more durable revenue opportunities, and with longer sales and integration cycles due to the size and complexity. Shifting to our balance sheet, where we remain very well capitalized, assets grew by $1.3 billion as a result of $2.1 billion of growth in loans and approximately $800 million decrease in cash, cash equivalents, and investment securities.
Revenue growth was driven by strong performance from new clients onboarded over the last four quarters, along with strong monetization of existing clients on our platform. Galileo accounts grew 23% year over year to 158 million. The segment delivered a contribution profit of $31 million, representing a 33% margin. We continue to leverage investments made in the segment as we continue to position tech platform for higher rates of diversified, durable growth going forward. As mentioned earlier, a strong pipeline of interest spans financial institutions, along with major consumer and commercial brands representing larger and more durable revenue opportunities, and with longer sales and integration cycles due to the size and complexity. Shifting to our balance sheet, where we remain very well capitalized, assets grew by $1.3 billion as a result of $2.1 billion of growth in loans and approximately $800 million decrease in cash, cash equivalents, and investment securities.
Speaker Change: Revenue growth was driven by strong performance from new clients onboarded over the last four quarters, along with strong monetization of existing clients on our platform.
Speaker Change: Galileo accounts grew 23% year-over-year to 158 million.
Speaker Change: The segment delivered a contribution profit of $31 million, representing a 33% margin.
Speaker Change: We continue to leverage investments made in the segment as we continue to position tech platforms for higher rates of diversified durable growth going forward.
Speaker Change: As mentioned earlier, a strong pipeline of interest spans financial institutions along with major consumer and commercial brands, representing larger and more durable revenue opportunities and with longer sales and integration cycles due to the size and complexity.
Chris Lapointe: Shifting to our balance sheet, where we remain very well capitalized, assets grew by $1.3 billion as a result of $2.1 billion of growth in loans and approximately $800 million decrease in cash, cash equivalents, and investment security. Currently, there is a 213-basis point difference between the interest we pay on deposits and the interest we pay on warehouse lines, which translates to about $500 million in annualized interest expense savings given the size of our deposits and benefit from the continued mix toward deposit funding along with our ability to sustain healthy deposit versus lending beta. Lastly, we grew book value to $5.9 billion and tangible book value by $92 million sequentially to $4.2 billion, with Now on to Guidance.
Speaker Change: Shifting to our balance sheet where we remain very well capitalized.
Speaker Change: Assets grew by $1.3 billion as a result of $2.1 billion of growth in loans and approximately $800 million decrease in cash, cash equivalents, and investment securities.
Chris Lapointe: On the liability side, member deposits grew by $2.2 billion to $21 billion, while overall deposits increased to $23 billion. We also reduced our broker deposits by $800 million as we continue to use our consumer deposits to replace higher cost parts of the funding stack, and we exited the quarter with $1.1 billion of warehouse debt drawn. Currently, there is a 213 basis point difference between the interest we pay on deposits and the interest we pay on warehouse lines, which translates to about $500 million in annualized interest expense savings given the size of our deposit base. This difference also continues to support our net interest margin, underscoring the benefits of having the option of holding loans on balance sheet when advantageous, and collecting net interest income.
On the liability side, member deposits grew by $2.2 billion to $21 billion, while overall deposits increased to $23 billion. We also reduced our broker deposits by $800 million as we continue to use our consumer deposits to replace higher cost parts of the funding stack, and we exited the quarter with $1.1 billion of warehouse debt drawn. Currently, there is a 213 basis point difference between the interest we pay on deposits and the interest we pay on warehouse lines, which translates to about $500 million in annualized interest expense savings given the size of our deposit base. This difference also continues to support our net interest margin, underscoring the benefits of having the option of holding loans on balance sheet when advantageous, and collecting net interest income.
Speaker Change: On the liability side, member deposits grew by $2.2 billion to $21 billion, while overall deposits increased to $23 billion.
Speaker Change: We also reduced our brokered deposits by $800 million as we continue to use our consumer deposits to replace higher cost parts of the funding stack, and we exited the quarter with $1.1 billion of warehouse debt drawn.
Speaker Change: Currently, there is a 213 basis point difference between the interest we pay on deposits and the interest we pay on warehouse lines, which translates to about $500 million in annualized interest expense savings, given the size of our deposit base.
Speaker Change: This difference also continues to support our net interest margin, underscoring the benefits of having the option of holding loans on balance sheet when advantageous in collecting net interest income.
Chris Lapointe: Overall, we expect to maintain a healthy net interest margin above 5% for the foreseeable future and benefit from the continued mix toward deposit funding, along with our ability to sustain healthy deposit versus lending betas. In terms of our regulatory capital ratios, our total capital ratio of 16.8% decreased by approximately 50 basis points from 17.3% last quarter and remains comfortably above the regulatory minimum of 10.5%. Lastly, we grew book value to $5.9 billion and tangible book value by $92 million sequentially to $4.2 billion, with tangible book value per share at $3.92. Now on to guidance. Throughout the last 12 months, we have demonstrated the benefit of having a diversified, high-growth set of revenue streams, multiple cost-efficient sources of capital, a keen focus on underwriting, high-quality credit, and a high degree of operating leverage.
Overall, we expect to maintain a healthy net interest margin above 5% for the foreseeable future and benefit from the continued mix toward deposit funding, along with our ability to sustain healthy deposit versus lending betas. In terms of our regulatory capital ratios, our total capital ratio of 16.8% decreased by approximately 50 basis points from 17.3% last quarter and remains comfortably above the regulatory minimum of 10.5%. Lastly, we grew book value to $5.9 billion and tangible book value by $92 million sequentially to $4.2 billion, with tangible book value per share at $3.92. Now on to guidance. Throughout the last 12 months, we have demonstrated the benefit of having a diversified, high-growth set of revenue streams, multiple cost-efficient sources of capital, a keen focus on underwriting, high-quality credit, and a high degree of operating leverage.
Speaker Change: Overall, we expect to maintain a healthy net interest margin above 5% for the foreseeable future, and benefit from the continued mix toward deposit funding along with our ability to sustain healthy deposit versus lending betas.
Speaker Change: In terms of our regulatory capital ratios, our total capital ratio of 16.8% decreased by approximately 50 basis points from 17.3% last quarter, and remains comfortably above the regulatory minimum of 10.5%.
Speaker Change: Lastly, we grew book value to $5.9 billion and tangible book value by $92 million sequentially to $4.2 billion, with tangible book value per share at $3.92.
Chris Lapointe: Throughout the last 12 months, we have demonstrated the benefit of having a diversified, high-growth set of revenue streams, multiple cost-efficient sources of capital, a keen focus on underwriting high-quality credit, and a high degree of operating leverage as we scale a business. We expect those benefits to persist even in light of the macro backdrop. For Q3, we expect to deliver adjusted net revenue of $625 to $645 million and EPS of $0.04 per share.
Speaker Change: Now on to guidance.
Speaker Change: Throughout the last 12 months, we have demonstrated the benefit of having a diversified, high-growth set of revenue streams, multiple cost-efficient sources of capital, a keen focus on underwriting high-quality credit, and a high degree of operating leverage as we scale the business.
Chris Lapointe: As we scale the business, we expect those benefits to persist even in light of the macro backdrop. For Q3, we expect to deliver adjusted net revenue of $625 to 645 million, adjusted EBITDA of $160 to 165 million, GAAP net income of $40 million to 45 million, and EPS of $0.04 per share. For the full year 2024, we now expect to deliver adjusted net revenue of $2.425 to 2.465 billion, which is $35 million higher than our prior guidance range of $2.39 to 2.43 billion. This implies 17% to 19% annual growth versus 15% to 17% previously. This guidance now assumes lending revenue will be at least 95% of 2023 levels. Financial services will grow more than 80% year over year, and Tech Platform will grow mid to upper teens percent year over year.
As we scale the business, we expect those benefits to persist even in light of the macro backdrop. For Q3, we expect to deliver adjusted net revenue of $625 to 645 million, adjusted EBITDA of $160 to 165 million, GAAP net income of $40 million to 45 million, and EPS of $0.04 per share. For the full year 2024, we now expect to deliver adjusted net revenue of $2.425 to 2.465 billion, which is $35 million higher than our prior guidance range of $2.39 to 2.43 billion. This implies 17% to 19% annual growth versus 15% to 17% previously. This guidance now assumes lending revenue will be at least 95% of 2023 levels. Financial services will grow more than 80% year over year, and Tech Platform will grow mid to upper teens percent year over year.
Speaker Change: We expect those benefits to persist, even in light of the macro backdrop.
Speaker Change: For Q3, we expect to deliver adjusted net revenue of $625 to $645 million, adjusted EBITDA of $160 to $165 million, gap net income of $40 to $45 million, and EPS of $0.04 per share.
Chris Lapointe: For the full year 2024, we now expect to deliver adjusted net revenue of $2.425 to $2.465 billion, which is $35 million higher than our prior guidance range of $2.39 to $2.43 billion. This implies 17 to 19% annual growth versus 15 to 17% previously. While this is lower than our original 20% guidance for the tech platform, we view this as transitory and still feel confident in our multi-year growth guidance for the. This represents a 25% adjusted EBITDA margin. We now expect full year gap net income of $175 to $185 million, above prior guidance of $165 to $175 million.
Speaker Change: For the full year 2024, we now expect to deliver adjusted net revenue of $2.425 to $2.465 billion, which is $35 million higher than our prior guidance range of $2.39 to $2.43 billion.
Speaker Change: This implies 17-19% annual growth versus 15-17% previously.
Speaker Change: This guidance now assumes lending revenue will be at least 95% of 2023 levels, financial services will grow more than 80% year-over-year, and tech platform will grow mid- to upper-teens percent year-over-year.
Chris Lapointe: While this is lower than our original 20% guidance for tech platform, we view this as transitory and still feel confident in our multi-year growth guidance for this business. We now expect to deliver adjusted EBITDA of $605 million to $615 million, above our prior guidance of $590 to $600 million. This represents a 25% adjusted EBITDA margin. We now expect full year GAAP net income of $175 to $185 million, above prior guidance of $165 to $175 million, and GAAP EPS of $0.09 to $0.10 per share, above prior guidance of $0.08 to $0.09 per share. We continue to expect growth in tangible book value of approximately $800 million to $1 billion, and continue to expect to end the year with a total capital ratio north of 16%.
While this is lower than our original 20% guidance for tech platform, we view this as transitory and still feel confident in our multi-year growth guidance for this business. We now expect to deliver adjusted EBITDA of $605 million to $615 million, above our prior guidance of $590 to $600 million. This represents a 25% adjusted EBITDA margin. We now expect full year GAAP net income of $175 to $185 million, above prior guidance of $165 to $175 million, and GAAP EPS of $0.09 to $0.10 per share, above prior guidance of $0.08 to $0.09 per share. We continue to expect growth in tangible book value of approximately $800 million to $1 billion, and continue to expect to end the year with a total capital ratio north of 16%.
Speaker Change: While this is lower than our original 20% guidance for tech platform, we view this as transitory and still feel confident in our multi-year growth guidance for this business.
Speaker Change: We now expect to deliver adjusted EBITDA of $605 to $615 million above our prior guidance of $590 to $600 million.
Speaker Change: This represents a 25% adjusted EBITDA margin.
Speaker Change: We now expect full year GAAP net income of $175 to $185 million, above prior guidance of $165 to $175 million, and GAAP EPS of $0.09 to $0.10 per share, above prior guidance of $0.08 to $0.09 per share.
Chris Lapointe: We continue to expect growth and a tangible book value of approximately $800 million to $1 billion and continue to expect to end the year with a total capital ratio north of 16%. Overall, we couldn't be more proud of our Q2 results. Having delivered $597 million of adjusted net revenue and $138 million of adjusted EBITDA, we continue to make great progress against our long-term growth objectives and remain very well positioned to continue to pursue our ultimate goal of making SoFi a top financial institution.
Speaker Change: We continue to expect growth in tangible book value of approximately $800 million to $1 billion, and continue to expect to end the year with a total capital ratio north of 16%.
Chris Lapointe: We continue to expect to add at least 2.3 million new members in 2024, which represents 30% growth overall. We couldn't be more proud of our Q2 results. Having delivered $597 million of adjusted net revenue, and $138 million of adjusted EBITDA, we continue to make great progress against our long-term growth objectives, and remain very well capitalized to continue to pursue our ultimate goal of making SoFi a top financial institution. With that, let's begin the Q&A.
We continue to expect to add at least 2.3 million new members in 2024, which represents 30% growth overall. We couldn't be more proud of our Q2 results. Having delivered $597 million of adjusted net revenue, and $138 million of adjusted EBITDA, we continue to make great progress against our long-term growth objectives, and remain very well capitalized to continue to pursue our ultimate goal of making SoFi a top financial institution. With that, let's begin the Q&A.
Speaker Change: We continue to expect to add at least 2.3 million new members in 2024, which represents 30% growth.
Speaker Change: Overall, we couldn't be more proud of our Q2 results.
Speaker Change: Having delivered $597 million of adjusted net revenue and $138 million of adjusted EBITDA, we continue to make great progress against our long-term growth objectives and remain very well capitalized to continue to pursue our ultimate goal of making SoFi a top financial institution.
Chris Lapointe: At this time, I would like to remind everyone that in order to ask a question, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Please keep in mind we'll take only one question per person at a time. Please rejoin the queue for any additional questions. Good morning, guys.
Operator: At this time, I would like to remind everyone that in order to ask a question, please press STAR followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Please keep in mind, we'll take only one question per person at a time. Please rejoin the queue for any additional questions. The first question comes from John Hecht from Jefferies. John, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: At this time, I would like to remind everyone that in order to ask a question, please press STAR followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Please keep in mind, we'll take only one question per person at a time. Please rejoin the queue for any additional questions. The first question comes from John Hecht from Jefferies. John, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker Change: With that, let's begin the Q&A.
Speaker Change: At this time, I would like to remind everyone that in order to ask a question, please press star followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. Please keep in mind we'll take only one question per person at a time. Please rejoin the queue for any additional questions.
Speaker Change: And the first question comes from John Hecht from Jeffreys. John , your line is open, please go ahead.
John: And thanks for taking my questions and I appreciate all the incremental disclosure in the deck. The question is, you know, I think you said that cumulative losses would have to go above 10%, I think to 11%, for you to kind of breach your 8% Assumptions in your underwriting. What kind of scenario would that entail, you know, in terms of like payment rates or delinquency rates, you know, and just to kind of connect the dots there? Yeah, sure, John, thanks for the question.
[Analyst]: Morning guys, and thanks for taking my questions, and appreciate all the incremental disclosure in the deck. The question is, I think you said that cumulative losses would have to go above 10%, I think to 11%, for you to kind of breach your 8% assumptions in your underwriting. What kind of scenario would that entail in terms of payment rates or delinquency rates? Just to kind of connect the dots, there's.
John Hecht: Morning guys, and thanks for taking my questions, and appreciate all the incremental disclosure in the deck. The question is, I think you said that cumulative losses would have to go above 10%, I think to 11%, for you to kind of breach your 8% assumptions in your underwriting. What kind of scenario would that entail in terms of payment rates or delinquency rates? Just to kind of connect the dots, there's.
John Hecht: Morning guys and thanks for taking my questions and appreciate all the incremental disclosure in the deck. The question is...
John Hecht: I think you said that cumulative losses would have to go above 10%, I think to 11% for you to kind of breach your 8%.
Speaker Change: Assumptions in your underwriting, what kind of scenario would that entail in terms of like payment rates or delinquency rates, you know, and just to kind of connect the dots there?
Chris Lapointe: So, like we said, credits are performing in line with expectations, and we remain extremely confident in our 7 to 8% life alone loss assumption. Just to reiterate what I had mentioned in my prepared remarks, when looking at all originations from 2020 through Q1 of 2024, only 44% of those remain. Of the 56% that got paid down, we've experienced only 3% net cumulative losses. So in order to reach 8% cumulative losses on the entire pool, the remaining 44% would need to charge off at 11%.
Chris Lapointe: Yes, sure John, thanks for the question. Like we said, credit is performing in line with expectations, and we remain extremely confident in our 7% to 8% life alone loss assumption. Just to reiterate what I had mentioned in my prepared remarks, when looking at all originations from 2020 through Q1 2024, only 44% of those remain. Of the 56% that got paid down, we've experienced only 3% net cumulative losses. In order to reach 8% cumulative losses on the entire pool, the remaining 44% would need to charge off at 11%. From where I sit, something would have to materially change in order to hit 8%, as prior vintages with similar levels of remaining UPB have never experienced losses even close to 11%.
Anthony Noto: Yes, sure John, thanks for the question. Like we said, credit is performing in line with expectations, and we remain extremely confident in our 7% to 8% life alone loss assumption. Just to reiterate what I had mentioned in my prepared remarks, when looking at all originations from 2020 through Q1 2024, only 44% of those remain. Of the 56% that got paid down, we've experienced only 3% net cumulative losses. In order to reach 8% cumulative losses on the entire pool, the remaining 44% would need to charge off at 11%. From where I sit, something would have to materially change in order to hit 8%, as prior vintages with similar levels of remaining UPB have never experienced losses even close to 11%.
Speaker Change: Yeah, sure, John. Thanks for the question.
Speaker Change: So, like we said, credit's performing in line with expectations and we remain extremely confident in our 7-8% life alone loss assumption.
Speaker Change: Just to reiterate what I had mentioned in my prepared remarks, when looking at all originations from 2020 through Q1 of 2024, only 44% of those remain.
Speaker Change: Of the 56% that got paid down, we've experienced only 3% net cumulative losses.
Speaker Change: So, in order to reach 8% cumulative losses on the entire pool, the remaining 44% would need to charge off at 11%.
Chris Lapointe: So from where I sit, something would have to materially change in order to hit 8%, as prior vintages with similar levels of remaining UPB have never experienced losses even close to 11%. In addition to that, we ended up showing you vintage analyses that highlight how recent vintages since making our credit cuts back in the second half of 2022 are performing materially better than the 2017 cohort, which was the last one to come even close to 8%.
Speaker Change: So from where I sit, something would have to materially change in order to hit 8%, as prior vintages with similar levels of remaining UPB have never experienced losses even close to 11%.
Chris Lapointe: In addition to that, we ended up showing you vintage analyses that highlight how recent vintages are, since making our credit cuts back in the second half of 2022, are performing materially better than the 2017 cohort, which was the last one to come even close to 8%. Furthermore, what gives us even more confidence is that the leading indicator for losses, which are our delinquencies, has started to turn the corner, and we're really bending the curve. In our personal loans business, we ended up surpassing a peak in Q1 on not only dollar principal, but also cumulative fair value adjustments and percentage UPB. From a dollar principal perspective, we ended up having $96 million of 90 to 120 day delinquencies in the quarter versus $103 million back in Q1.
In addition to that, we ended up showing you vintage analyses that highlight how recent vintages are, since making our credit cuts back in the second half of 2022, are performing materially better than the 2017 cohort, which was the last one to come even close to 8%. Furthermore, what gives us even more confidence is that the leading indicator for losses, which are our delinquencies, has started to turn the corner, and we're really bending the curve. In our personal loans business, we ended up surpassing a peak in Q1 on not only dollar principal, but also cumulative fair value adjustments and percentage UPB. From a dollar principal perspective, we ended up having $96 million of 90 to 120 day delinquencies in the quarter versus $103 million back in Q1.
Speaker Change: In addition to that, we ended up showing you vintage analyses that highlight how recent vintages, since making our credit cuts back in the second half of 2022, are performing materially better than the 2017 cohort, which was the last one to come even close to 8%.
Chris Lapointe: Furthermore, what gives us even more confidence is that the leading indicator for losses, which is our delinquencies, has started to turn the corner, and we're really bending the curve. So in our personal loans business, we ended up surpassing a peak in Q1 on not only dollar principal but also cumulative fair value adjustments and percentage UPB. So from a dollar principal perspective, we ended up having $96 million in 90 to 120-day delinquencies in the quarter versus 103 back in Q1.
Speaker Change: Furthermore, what gives us even more confidence is that the leading indicator for losses, which is our delinquencies, has started to turn the corner and we're really bending the curve.
Speaker Change: So in our personal loans business, we ended up surpassing a peak in Q1 on not only dollar principal, but also cumulative fair value adjustments and percentage UPB. So from a dollar principal perspective, we ended up having $96 million of 90 to 120-day delinquencies in the quarter versus 103 back in Q1.
Chris Lapointe: From a percentage UPB basis, those were at 64 basis points in the quarter versus 72 basis points in Q1. From a cumulative fair value adjustment basis, that was $79 million in Q2 versus $88 million in Q1. What's even more important than that, these trends are continuing throughout the first several weeks of Q3.
From a percentage UPB basis, those were at 64 basis points in the quarter versus 72 basis points in Q1. From a cumulative fair value adjustment basis, that was $79 million in Q2 versus $88 million in Q1. What's even more important than that, these trends are continuing throughout the first several weeks of Q3.
Speaker Change: from a percentage UPB basis.
Chris Lapointe: From a percentage UPB basis, those were at 64 basis points in the quarter versus 72 basis points in Q1. And then from a cumulative fair value adjustment basis, that was $79 million in Q2 versus $88 million in Q1.
Speaker Change: Those were at 64 basis points in the quarter versus 72 basis points in Q1. And then from a cumulative fair value adjustment basis, that was $79 million in Q2 versus $88 million in Q1. And what's even more important than that, these trends are continuing throughout the first several weeks of Q3.
Chris Lapointe: And what's even more important than that, these trends are continuing throughout the first several weeks of Q3. Terry Ma from Barclays. Your line is open, please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Terry Ma from Barclays. Terry, your line is open. Please go ahead. Hi. Thank you. Good morning. You show some pretty encouraging vintage charge-off metrics in slides 8 and 9. It sounds like from your commentary, everything's kind of in line. Maybe just kind of reconcile your more conservative stance and maybe talk about what.
Operator: The next question comes from Terry Ma from Barclays. Terry, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Terry Ma: Hi. Thank you. Good morning. You show some pretty encouraging vintage charge-off metrics in slides 8 and 9. It sounds like from your commentary, everything's kind of in line. Maybe just kind of reconcile your more conservative stance and maybe talk about what.
Speaker Change: The next question comes from Terry Ma from Barclays. Terry, your line is open, please go ahead.
Terry MA: Hi, thank you. Good morning. So you show some pretty encouraging vintage charge-off metrics in slides 8 and 9, and it sounds like from your commentary, everything's kind of in line. But maybe just kind of reconcile your more conservative stance and maybe talk about what you need to see in the environment to maybe just grow a little bit again in the portfolio.
Anthony Noto: You need to see in the environment to maybe just grow a little bit.
You need to see in the environment to maybe just grow a little bit.
Chris Lapointe: Again, in the portfolio.
Again, in the portfolio.
Anthony Noto: Thank you for the question. We're really encouraged by the trends we're seeing in credit, as Chris mentioned. We're really proud of the fact that we're able to achieve record revenue with 22% year-over-year growth with lending barely growing. I would say the areas of incremental opportunity as we go into the back half of the year are home loans. I'm really proud to see the growth rate year-over-year in home loans. Student loan refinancing, also a product that shouldn't be doing really well in this interest rate environment, also had strong growth.
Anthony Noto: Thank you for the question. We're really encouraged by the trends we're seeing in credit. As Chris mentioned, we're really proud of the fact that we're able to achieve record revenue with 22% year over year growth, with lending barely growing. I would say the areas of incremental opportunity as we go into the back half of the year: home loans. Really proud to see the growth rate year over year in home loans. Student loan refinancing, also a product that shouldn't be doing really well in this interest rate environment, also had strong growth on the personal loan side. You know, we're going to stay relatively conservative compared to our balance sheet ending assets there, primarily because we want to see how the year trends in terms of unemployment. There's a big number coming out on Friday. We're at 4.1%. A move to 4.2% could signal a recession.
Anthony Noto: Thank you for the question. We're really encouraged by the trends we're seeing in credit. As Chris mentioned, we're really proud of the fact that we're able to achieve record revenue with 22% year over year growth, with lending barely growing. I would say the areas of incremental opportunity as we go into the back half of the year: home loans. Really proud to see the growth rate year over year in home loans. Student loan refinancing, also a product that shouldn't be doing really well in this interest rate environment, also had strong growth on the personal loan side. You know, we're going to stay relatively conservative compared to our balance sheet ending assets there, primarily because we want to see how the year trends in terms of unemployment. There's a big number coming out on Friday. We're at 4.1%. A move to 4.2% could signal a recession.
Speaker Change: Thank you for the question. We're really encouraged by the trends we're seeing in credit, as Chris mentioned. We're really proud of the fact that we're able to achieve record revenue with 22% year-over-year growth with lending barely growing. I would say the areas of incremental opportunity as we go into the back half of the year are home loans.
Speaker Change: Really proud to see the growth rate year-over-year in home loans. Student loan refinancing, also a product that shouldn't be doing really well in this interest rate environment, also had strong growth.
Anthony Noto: On the personal loan side, we're going to stay relatively conservative compared to our balance sheet ending assets there, primarily because we want to see how the year trends in terms of unemployment. There's a big number coming out on Friday.
Speaker Change: On the personal loan side, you know, we're going to stay relatively conservative compared to our balance sheet ending assets there, primarily because we want to see how the year trends in terms of unemployment. There's a big number coming out on Friday. We're at 4.1% and move to 4.2% could signal a recession. And so while there have been improvements, we're not changing our stance, we're able to achieve pretty strong growth year over year without getting too aggressive on the personal loan side. There are factors that could cause us to originate a lot more in personal loans. I will tell you, I see more near term opportunity in home loans and student loan refinancing. But in personal loans, the thing that would cause us to be more aggressive in terms of the growth rate is if we have greater than expected sales.
Anthony Noto: We're at 4.1%; a move to 4.2% could signal a recession. And so, while there have been improvements, we're not changing our stance. We're able to achieve pretty strong growth year-over-year without getting too aggressive on the personal loan side. There are factors that could cause us to originate a lot more in personal loans. I will tell you I see more near-term opportunity in home loans and student loan refinancing. But in personal loans, the thing that would cause us to be more aggressive in terms of the growth rate is if we have greater than expected sales.
Anthony Noto: While there have been improvements, we're not changing our stance. We're able to achieve pretty strong growth year over year without getting too aggressive on the personal loan side. There are factors that could cause us to originate a lot more in personal loans. I will tell you I see more near-term opportunity in home loans and student loan refinancing. In personal loans, the thing that would cause us to be more aggressive in terms of the growth rate is if we have greater than expected sales, in addition to that, changes in benchmark rates, in addition to that, continued improvement in our credit trends if they start to accelerate better than we've already seen, which is quite positive. All in all, we have a lot more growth. We could grow much faster if we wanted to, but we want to drive durable, diversified growth.
While there have been improvements, we're not changing our stance. We're able to achieve pretty strong growth year over year without getting too aggressive on the personal loan side. There are factors that could cause us to originate a lot more in personal loans. I will tell you I see more near-term opportunity in home loans and student loan refinancing. In personal loans, the thing that would cause us to be more aggressive in terms of the growth rate is if we have greater than expected sales, in addition to that, changes in benchmark rates, in addition to that, continued improvement in our credit trends if they start to accelerate better than we've already seen, which is quite positive. All in all, we have a lot more growth. We could grow much faster if we wanted to, but we want to drive durable, diversified growth.
Anthony Noto: In addition to that, changes in benchmark rates. In addition to that, continued improvement in our credit trends if they start to accelerate better than we've already seen, which is quite positive. But all in all, we have a lot more growth.
Speaker Change: In addition to that, changes in benchmark rates, in addition to that continued improvement in our credit trends, if they start to accelerate better than we've already seen, which is quite positive.
Anthony Noto: We could grow much faster if we wanted to, but we want to drive durable, diversified growth. And that was the reason why we took a stance on limiting our personal loan balances specifically. The other thing that could drive growth, which would be further diversification of the balance sheet, is home equity loans. We're now doing home equity loans as a principal as opposed to an agent. They're obviously secured lending at attractive rates, more attractive than personal loan rates. So there would be a greater emphasis on that. That could also drive better performance there.
Speaker Change: But all in all, we have a lot more growth. We could grow much faster if we wanted to, but we want to drive durable, diversified growth, and that was the reason why we took a stance.
Anthony Noto: That was the reason why we took a stance in limiting our personal loan balances specifically. The other thing that could drive growth, which would be further diversification of the balance sheet, is home equity loans. We're now doing home equity loans as a principal as opposed to an agent. They're obviously secured lending and attractive rates, more attractive than personal loan rates. There'll be a great emphasis on that. That could also drive better performance there. A lot of opportunities as it relates to the lending business, we're taking a pretty conservative view purposely. I quite frankly don't feel like we're getting paid for the results we're delivering. I'm not sure why we'd be overly aggressive at this point.
That was the reason why we took a stance in limiting our personal loan balances specifically. The other thing that could drive growth, which would be further diversification of the balance sheet, is home equity loans. We're now doing home equity loans as a principal as opposed to an agent. They're obviously secured lending and attractive rates, more attractive than personal loan rates. There'll be a great emphasis on that. That could also drive better performance there. A lot of opportunities as it relates to the lending business, we're taking a pretty conservative view purposely. I quite frankly don't feel like we're getting paid for the results we're delivering. I'm not sure why we'd be overly aggressive at this point.
Speaker Change: Unlimiting our personal loan balances specifically. The other thing that could drive growth, which would be further diversification of the balance sheet, is home equity loans. We're now doing home equity loans as a principal as opposed to an agent. They're obviously secured lending and attractive rates, more attractive than personal loan rates, so there would be a great emphasis on that. That could also drive better performance there. So a lot of opportunities as it relates to the lending business, we're taking a pretty conservative view purposely. I quite frankly don't feel like we're getting paid for the results we're delivering, so I'm not sure why we'd be overly aggressive at this point.
Anthony Noto: So a lot of opportunities as it relates to the lending business. We're taking a pretty conservative view purposely and, quite frankly, don't feel like we're getting paid for the results we're delivering. So I'm not sure why we'd be overly aggressive at this point. You know, how are you, how do you expect to grow it, given that you've grown interest income now? Can you talk a little bit about the near-term future? Thank you.
Operator: The next question is from Dan Dola, Mizuho. Dan, please go ahead. Your line is open.
Operator: The next question is from Dan Dola, Mizuho. Dan, please go ahead. Your line is open.
Speaker Change: The next question is from Dan Dolev at Mizzou Home. Dan, please go ahead, your line is open.
Chris Lapointe: Hey guys, great results here.
Dan Dolev: Hey guys, great results here.
[Analyst]: Really appreciate letting us ask any questions. You know, how are you, Anthony? Chris, like how do you expect to keep growing financial services? I mean, obviously you've grown deposits so much. You know what, you know, how do you expect to grow it given that you've grown interest income now? Like, if you can talk a little bit about the near term future. Thank you.
Really appreciate letting us ask any questions. You know, how are you, Anthony? Chris, like how do you expect to keep growing financial services? I mean, obviously you've grown deposits so much. You know what, you know, how do you expect to grow it given that you've grown interest income now? Like, if you can talk a little bit about the near term future. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Hey guys, great results here. Really appreciate letting us answer any questions. So, you know, how are you, you know, Anthony, Chris, like, how do you expect to keep growing financial services? I mean, obviously you've grown deposits so much.
Dan Dolev: You know what, you know, how do you expect to grow it given that you've grown interest income now? Like if you can talk a little bit about the near-term future. Thank you.
Anthony Noto: Thanks, Dan. Well, first, you know, we did a really incredible job driving the diversification. The only way we're able to achieve record revenue is because our financial services segment had a record at $176 million, up 80% year over year. It was driven by product growth, as you know, up 47%. It was also driven by deposits, up 80%. That drives the net interest income. I think more interestingly is the growth opportunity we have in non net interest income. We reported $37 million in that line item. It grew very nicely, 58% year over year. If you annualize the number, it's about $150 million. There's a couple of drivers of that. First, continue to drive increased product growth. We had 47% growth in financial services products. That will be one driver of strong growth. The second is increased monetization or revenue per product.
Anthony Noto: Thanks, Dan. Well, first, you know, we did a really incredible job driving the diversification. The only way we're able to achieve record revenue is because our financial services segment had a record at $176 million, up 80% year over year. It was driven by product growth, as you know, up 47%. It was also driven by deposits, up 80%. That drives the net interest income. I think more interestingly is the growth opportunity we have in non net interest income. We reported $37 million in that line item. It grew very nicely, 58% year over year. If you annualize the number, it's about $150 million. There's a couple of drivers of that. First, continue to drive increased product growth. We had 47% growth in financial services products. That will be one driver of strong growth. The second is increased monetization or revenue per product.
Speaker Change: Thanks, Dan. Well, first, you know, we did a really incredible job.
Speaker Change: Driving the diversification. The only way we're able to achieve record revenue is because our financial services segment had a record at $176 million up 80% year-over-year. It was driven by product growth, as you know, up 47%. It was also driven by deposits up 80%. That drives the net interest income. I think more interestingly is the growth opportunity we have in non-net interest income. We reported $37 million in that line item. It grew very nicely, 58% year-over-year. If you annualize the number, it's about $150 million.
Speaker Change: And there's a couple of drivers of that. First.
Speaker Change: continue to drive increased product growth. We had 47% growth in financial services products. That will be one driver of strong growth. The second is increased monetization or revenue per product. We saw strong growth in revenue per product in the mid-20s as well. What drives it going forward from here? Interchange was up 67% year-over-year. AUM was up 58% year-over-year. We'll see benefits and brokerage not just from AUM growth, but also increased monetization for $1 of AUM, which is about half what we think the benchmark rate is.
Anthony Noto: We saw strong growth in revenue per product in the mid-20s as well. What drives it going forward from here? Interchange was up 67% year over year. AUM was up 58% year over year. We'll see benefits in brokerage not just from AUM growth, but also increased monetization per dollar of AUM, which is about half what we think the benchmark rate is. Continue driving home, auto, and life insurance, which we call SoFi Protect, and then our loan platform business. It is a combination of those different monetization vehicles that will drive continued revenue per product, which we think has significant upside after growing 29% already in this quarter. Our product growth is something that's probably a lot more visible to everyone, which is up 47%. Dual-pronged growth of dual-pronged dimensions of growth should continue to drive increased diversification there.
We saw strong growth in revenue per product in the mid-20s as well. What drives it going forward from here? Interchange was up 67% year over year. AUM was up 58% year over year. We'll see benefits in brokerage not just from AUM growth, but also increased monetization per dollar of AUM, which is about half what we think the benchmark rate is. Continue driving home, auto, and life insurance, which we call SoFi Protect, and then our loan platform business. It is a combination of those different monetization vehicles that will drive continued revenue per product, which we think has significant upside after growing 29% already in this quarter. Our product growth is something that's probably a lot more visible to everyone, which is up 47%. Dual-pronged growth of dual-pronged dimensions of growth should continue to drive increased diversification there.
Speaker Change: continue driving home, auto, and life insurance, which we call SoFiProtect, and then our loan platform business.
Speaker Change: So, it's a combination of those different monetization vehicles that will drive continued revenue per product, which we think has a significant upside, after growing 29% already in this quarter, and then our product growth is something that's probably a lot more visible to everyone, which is up 47%.
Speaker Change: So, dual-pronged dimensions of growth should continue to drive increased diversification there.
Operator: The next question comes from Kyle Peterson from Needham & Company. Kyle, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Kyle Peterson from Needham & Company. Kyle, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker Change: The next question comes from Kyle Peterson from Needham Company. Kyle, your line is open, please go ahead.
Unknown Attendee: Great. Thanks, guys. Good morning.
Chris Lapointe: Great, thanks guys. Good morning.
Kyle Peterson: Great, thanks guys. Good morning.
[Analyst]: Thanks for taking questions.
Thanks for taking questions.
Chris Lapointe: Want to touch on deposit? Obviously, continue to see nice growth within the core base here with members, but how should we think about the growth outlook for deposits and kind of how that counterbalances with any ongoing runoff of some of the brokered funding?
Want to touch on deposit? Obviously, continue to see nice growth within the core base here with members, but how should we think about the growth outlook for deposits and kind of how that counterbalances with any ongoing runoff of some of the brokered funding?
Kyle Peterson: Great. Thanks, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. I wanted to touch on deposits. Obviously, we continue to see nice growth in the core base here with members, but how should we think about the growth outlook?
Unknown Attendee: Thanks for taking questions. I wanted to touch on deposit. As we continue to see nice, nice growth in the core base here with members, but how should we think about, you know, the growth outlook for deposits and kind of how that counterbalances with any ongoing runoff of some of the brokered funding? Yeah, I'll let Chris talk about the sort of specific trends in the quarter. But as it relates to the broader macro picture, we're obviously entering an environment where rates are likely to go down in the future. And many people ask us, will you maintain a high rate?
Speaker Change: for deposits and kind of how that counterbalances with, you know, any any ongoing runoff of some of the brokered funding.
Anthony Noto: Yeah, I'll let Chris talk about the sort of specific trends in the quarter. As it relates to the broader macro picture, we're obviously entering an environment where rates are likely to go down in the future. Many people ask us, will you maintain a high rate? The answer is we will maintain a high rate relative to our competition. We think we have a competitive advantage given that we have such a big origination platform. The origination platform allows us to fund a higher APY than a lot of other competitors that don't have an origination platform. The two businesses work in tandem. As rates go down, the value of our loans generally go up, all else equal. We can maintain a superior APY. That doesn't mean we may not change it.
Anthony Noto: Yeah, I'll let Chris talk about the sort of specific trends in the quarter. As it relates to the broader macro picture, we're obviously entering an environment where rates are likely to go down in the future. Many people ask us, will you maintain a high rate? The answer is we will maintain a high rate relative to our competition. We think we have a competitive advantage given that we have such a big origination platform. The origination platform allows us to fund a higher APY than a lot of other competitors that don't have an origination platform. The two businesses work in tandem. As rates go down, the value of our loans generally go up, all else equal. We can maintain a superior APY. That doesn't mean we may not change it.
Speaker Change: Yeah, I'll let Chris talk about the sort of specific trends in the quarter, but as it relates to the broader macro picture.
Speaker Change: We're obviously entering an environment where rates are likely to go down in the future. And many people ask us, will you maintain a high rate? And the answer is we will maintain a high rate relative to our competition. We think we have a competitive advantage given that we have such a big origination platform. The origination platform allows us to fund a higher APY than a lot of other competitors that don't have an origination platform.
Anthony Noto: And the answer is that we will maintain a high rate relative to our competition. We think we have a competitive advantage, given that we have such a big origination platform. The origination platform allows us to fund higher APY than a lot of other competitors that don't have an origination platform. So the two businesses work in tandem. As rates go down, the value of our loans generally goes up, all else equal, and so we can maintain a superior APY. That doesn't mean we may not change it.
Speaker Change: So, the two businesses work in tandem. As rates go down, the value of our loans generally go up, all else equal, and so we can maintain a superior APY. That doesn't mean we may not change it. It just means it will be superior to drive our differentiated value proposition and leverage our competitive advantage.
Anthony Noto: It just means it will be superior to drive our differentiated value proposition and leverage our competitive advantage. As it relates to deposits more specifically, rate is one element of our differentiation. The other elements of differentiation start with no fees.
Anthony Noto: It just means it will be superior to drive our differentiated value proposition and leverage our competitive advantage as it relates to deposits. More specifically, rate is one element of our differentiation. The other elements of differentiation start with no fees. We do not charge. We do not require minimum balances to get our services. You do get a higher APY if you do direct deposit or you do an average monthly deposit of a certain amount. As we mentioned in the call, we will actually launch SoFi Plus, which will give you that higher rate for a fee per month, which will be quite attractive relative to the amount of interest you could gain when you pay that fee. In addition to that, we have the ability to do person-to-person payments to an email address or a phone number.
It just means it will be superior to drive our differentiated value proposition and leverage our competitive advantage as it relates to deposits. More specifically, rate is one element of our differentiation. The other elements of differentiation start with no fees. We do not charge. We do not require minimum balances to get our services. You do get a higher APY if you do direct deposit or you do an average monthly deposit of a certain amount. As we mentioned in the call, we will actually launch SoFi Plus, which will give you that higher rate for a fee per month, which will be quite attractive relative to the amount of interest you could gain when you pay that fee. In addition to that, we have the ability to do person-to-person payments to an email address or a phone number.
Speaker Change: As it relates to deposits more specifically, rate is one element of our differentiation. The other elements of differentiation start with no fees. We do not charge. We don't require minimum balances to get our services. You do get a higher APY if you do direct deposit, or you do an average monthly deposit of a certain amount. As we mentioned in the call, we'll actually launch SoFi Plus, which will give you that higher rate for a fee per month, which will be quite attractive relative to the amount of interest you could gain when you pay that fee. In addition to that, we have the ability to do person-to-person payments to an email address or a phone number. We recently launched Zelle, which is very unique among the fintechs, which is a highly requested product.
Anthony Noto: We do not charge. We do not require minimum balances to get our services. You do get a higher APY if you do direct deposit or you do an average monthly deposit of a certain amount. As we mentioned in the call, we'll actually launch SoFi Plus, which will give you that higher rate for a fee per month, which will be quite attractive relative to the amount of interest you could gain when you pay that fee.
Anthony Noto: In addition to that, we have the ability to do person-to-person payments to an email address or a phone number. We recently launched Zelle, which is very unique among fintechs and is a highly requested product. In addition to that, we provide seamless capabilities into our brokerage business and money movement more broadly. So the APY is one important element of driving deposits, but it's the broader value proposition that we offer that we think will continue to allow us to drive strong deposit growth on the back of strong member growth in money. What I would add to that is we've consistently said that we are going to add over $2 billion in member deposits each quarter. We certainly did that in Q1.
Anthony Noto: We recently launched Zelle, which is very unique among the fintechs, which is a highly requested product. In addition to that, we provide seamless capabilities into our brokerage business and money movement more broadly. The APY is one important element of driving deposits, but it's the broader value proposition that we offer that we think will continue to allow us to drive strong deposit growth on the back of strong member growth in money.
We recently launched Zelle, which is very unique among the fintechs, which is a highly requested product. In addition to that, we provide seamless capabilities into our brokerage business and money movement more broadly. The APY is one important element of driving deposits, but it's the broader value proposition that we offer that we think will continue to allow us to drive strong deposit growth on the back of strong member growth in money.
Speaker Change: In addition to that, we provide seamless capabilities into our brokerage business and money movement more broadly.
Speaker Change: So, the APY is one important element of driving deposits, but it's the broader value proposition that we offer that we think will continue to allow us to drive strong deposit growth on the back of strong member growth in money. Yeah, and what I would add to that is we've consistently said that we were going to add over $2 billion of member deposits.
Chris Lapointe: Yeah, what I would add to that is we've consistently said that we were going to add over $2 billion of member deposits each quarter. We certainly did that in Q1. We did it again in Q2 with $2.2 billion of net new deposits. From a member perspective, we did pay down about $800 million of brokered CDs as they had higher costs relative to our member deposit. Right now we are just north of 80% deposit funded. Going forward, we believe the optimal mix is consistent with our prior guidance at about 80% to 90%. We still have about $1.1 billion of warehouse debt that's outstanding and nearly $2 billion of broker deposits. We're going to continue to optimize funding sources and lower our overall costs.
Chris Lapointe: Yeah, what I would add to that is we've consistently said that we were going to add over $2 billion of member deposits each quarter. We certainly did that in Q1. We did it again in Q2 with $2.2 billion of net new deposits. From a member perspective, we did pay down about $800 million of brokered CDs as they had higher costs relative to our member deposit. Right now we are just north of 80% deposit funded. Going forward, we believe the optimal mix is consistent with our prior guidance at about 80% to 90%. We still have about $1.1 billion of warehouse debt that's outstanding and nearly $2 billion of broker deposits. We're going to continue to optimize funding sources and lower our overall costs.
Chris Lapointe: We did it again in Q2 with $2.2 billion of net new deposits from a member perspective. We did pay down about $800 million of brokered CDs as they had higher costs relative to our member deposits. Right now, we are about just north of 80% deposit funded. Going forward, we believe the optimal mix is consistent with our prior guidance at about 80% to 90%. We still have about $1.1 billion of warehouse debt that's outstanding and nearly $2 billion of brokered deposits. So we're going to continue to optimize funding sources and lower our overall costs. The next question comes from Reggie Smith from J.P. Morgan. Reggie, please go ahead.
Speaker Change: Each quarter, we certainly did that in Q1. We did it again in Q2 with $2.2 billion of net new deposits from a member perspective. We did pay down about $800 million of brokered CDs as they had higher costs relative to our member deposits.
Speaker Change: Right now we are about just north of 80% deposit funded.
Speaker Change: Going forward, we believe the optimal mix is consistent with our prior guidance at about 80 to 90 percent. We still have about $1.1 billion of warehouse debt that's outstanding and nearly $2 billion of brokered deposits. So we're going to continue to optimize funding sources and lower our overall costs.
Operator: The next question comes from Reggie Smith from JP Morgan. Reggie, please go ahead. Your line is open.
Operator: The next question comes from Reggie Smith from JP Morgan. Reggie, please go ahead. Your line is open.
Reginald Smith: Your line is open. Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I appreciate the disclosure about Lost Coves, and I hope you guys, I was curious, and I think I asked about this last quarter, about the credit card program or business. And I looked at, you know, the fact that you've got 4 million money users and, you know, almost 4 million relay users, the year customer base. Can you talk a little bit about that?
Speaker Change: The next question comes from Reggie Smith from J.P. Morgan. Reggie, please go ahead, your line is open.
Anthony Noto: Hey, good morning.
Reggie Smith: Hey, good morning.
[Analyst]: Thanks for taking the question. I appreciate the disclosure on the loss curves, and I hope you guys continue to publish that kind of similar thing. I was curious, and I think I asked about this last quarter, about the credit card program or business. I look at, you know, the fact that you've got 4 million money users and almost 4 million relay users, and only, well, less than 300,000 credit card accounts. It would seem that there's an opportunity to kind of really be very targeted to slice and find really prom credits within your customer base. Can you talk a little bit about that? Am I oversimplifying that? It just seems like that business.
Thanks for taking the question. I appreciate the disclosure on the loss curves, and I hope you guys continue to publish that kind of similar thing. I was curious, and I think I asked about this last quarter, about the credit card program or business. I look at, you know, the fact that you've got 4 million money users and almost 4 million relay users, and only, well, less than 300,000 credit card accounts. It would seem that there's an opportunity to kind of really be very targeted to slice and find really prom credits within your customer base. Can you talk a little bit about that? Am I oversimplifying that? It just seems like that business.
Speaker Change: Chris Lapointe, Maura Cyr, Anthony Noto
Reginald Smith: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I appreciate the disclosure on the law schools and I hope you guys
Reginald Smith: continue to publish that. Kind of similar thing, I was curious enough to ask about this last quarter, about the credit card
Speaker Change: program or business. And I looked at, you know, the fact that you've got 4 million money users, and, you know, almost 4 million relay users, and only, well, less than 300,000 credit card accounts. And it would seem that there's an opportunity to kind of
Speaker Change: to really be very targeted and slice and find really prompt credits within your
Reginald Smith: Maybe I am oversimplifying that? It just seems like a business could be a lot bigger than it is. But maybe I just don't understand how that ramps up. So maybe a little color on how that grows and some of the things that keep it from growing fast will appear at the end of the episode.
Speaker Change: The Year Customer Base. Can you talk a little bit about that? Am I oversimplifying that? It just seems like that business...
Chris Lapointe: Could.
Could.
[Analyst]: Be a lot bigger than it is, but maybe I just don't understand how that ramps up. Maybe a little color on how that business grows and some of the things that keep it from growing faster than it would appear to have the opportunity to grow.
Be a lot bigger than it is, but maybe I just don't understand how that ramps up. Maybe a little color on how that business grows and some of the things that keep it from growing faster than it would appear to have the opportunity to grow.
Speaker Change: could be a lot bigger than it is. But maybe I just don't understand how that ramps up. So maybe a little color on on how that business grows and some of the things to keep it from growing faster than it would appear to have the opportunity to grow.
Anthony Noto: Reggie, thank you for the question. On credit card, I would start by saying we have a pretty diversified portfolio of products. Our goal is to drive a series of S curves of growth across the product, so that we drive strong, durable, diversified, compounding growth for years, which means we'll invest in some businesses faster and quicker than others. I often say internally, we have some startup businesses, we have some series A businesses, some late stage growth businesses, and some mature growth businesses. Credit card is one of those early stage businesses where we want to make sure that we get the marketing, the product market fit correct, the credit correct, and really the overall unit economics of our credit card on a per account basis correct. We spent the last 18 months working our butt on that, and we feel like we have the right formula.
Anthony Noto: Reggie, thank you for the question. On credit card, I would start by saying we have a pretty diversified portfolio of products. Our goal is to drive a series of S curves of growth across the product, so that we drive strong, durable, diversified, compounding growth for years, which means we'll invest in some businesses faster and quicker than others. I often say internally, we have some startup businesses, we have some series A businesses, some late stage growth businesses, and some mature growth businesses. Credit card is one of those early stage businesses where we want to make sure that we get the marketing, the product market fit correct, the credit correct, and really the overall unit economics of our credit card on a per account basis correct. We spent the last 18 months working our butt on that, and we feel like we have the right formula.
Anthony Noto: Reggie, thank you for the question on credit cards. I would start by saying, you know, we have a pretty diversified portfolio of products. Our goal is to drive a series of S-curves of growth across the product so that we drive strong, durable, diversified compounding growth for years, which means we'll invest in some businesses faster and quicker than others. I often say internally, "Inside, we have some startup businesses, we have some Series A businesses, some late stage growth businesses, and some mature growth businesses."
Reginald Smith: Reggie, thank you for the question on credit card. I would start by saying you know we have a pretty diversified portfolio of products.
Speaker Change: Our goal is to drive a series of S-curves of growth across the product so that we drive strong, durable, diversified compounding growth for years, which means we'll invest in some businesses faster and quicker than others.
Speaker Change: I often say internally we have some startup businesses, we have some series A businesses, some late stage growth businesses, and some mature growth businesses. Credit Card is one of those early stage businesses where we want to make sure that we get the marketing, the product market fit correct.
Anthony Noto: Credit Card is one of those early stage businesses where we want to make sure that we get the marketing, the product market fit correct, the credit correct, and really the overall unit economics of our credit card on a per account basis correct. We spent the last 18 months working our butts off on that, and we feel like we have the right formula. I know we have the right team.
Speaker Change: The credit cracked.
Speaker Change: and really the overall unit economics of our credit card on a per-account basis correct.
Anthony Noto: We did change the team about a year and a half ago, bringing in someone that's actually built this business from scratch before, in addition to running businesses. So we have a very positive long-term outlook for Credit Card and want to contribute to our business. I often say businesses like Credit Card and brokerage, by themselves, could be bigger than SoFi is in total today. There are companies that are very big that are just in the credit card business and just in the brokerage business. And today, those are small for us, and we're investing aggressively. We pointed out the fact that the brokerage business and the credit card business combined are annualizing a loss of $100 million.
Anthony Noto: I know we have the right team. We did change the team about a year and a half ago, bringing in someone that's actually built this business from scratch before in addition to running businesses. We have a very positive long-term outcome outlook for credit card and want to contribute to our business. I often say businesses like credit card and brokerage by themselves someday could be bigger than SoFi is in total. Today there are companies that are very big that are just in the credit card business and just in the brokerage business. Today those are small for us, and we're investing aggressively. We pointed out the fact that the brokerage business and the credit card business combined are annualizing a loss of $100 million. What are the changes we're making? Credit cards specifically, we'll launch two new cards. We'll be testing them slowly.
I know we have the right team. We did change the team about a year and a half ago, bringing in someone that's actually built this business from scratch before in addition to running businesses. We have a very positive long-term outcome outlook for credit card and want to contribute to our business. I often say businesses like credit card and brokerage by themselves someday could be bigger than SoFi is in total. Today there are companies that are very big that are just in the credit card business and just in the brokerage business. Today those are small for us, and we're investing aggressively. We pointed out the fact that the brokerage business and the credit card business combined are annualizing a loss of $100 million. What are the changes we're making? Credit cards specifically, we'll launch two new cards. We'll be testing them slowly.
Speaker Change: We've spent the last 18 months working our butt on that, and we feel like we have the right formula. I know we have the right team. We did change the team about a year and a half ago, bringing in someone that's actually built this business from scratch before, in addition to running businesses. So we have a very positive long-term outlook for Credit Card and want to contribute to our business.
Speaker Change: I often say businesses like credit card and brokerage buy themselves.
Speaker Change: Some day could be bigger than SoFi is in total today. There are companies that are very big that are just in the credit card business and just in the brokerage business. And today, those are small for us and we're investing aggressively. We pointed out the fact that the brokerage business and the credit card business combined are annualizing a loss of $100 million.
Anthony Noto: So what are the changes we're making to Credit Card specifically? We launched two new cards. We'll be testing them slowly.
Anthony Noto: One is an everyday card where people get a much higher percentage reward on categories like food or things that are used every day. The second card is more of a no frills, no surprises card for people that are in our ecosystem that are members, but they have thin credit files, not because they have low credit. They just have very little credit because they may be a new professional in addition to our existing card.
Anthony Noto: One is an everyday card where people get a much higher percentage reward on categories like food, or things that are used every day. The second card is more of a no frills, no surprises card for people that are in our ecosystem, that are members, but they have thin credit files, not because they have low credit, they just have very little credit because they may be a new professional. In addition to our existing card, not only will we launch two more cards, but we'll make those cards work better with our other products. If you're a SoFi Plus member, your rewards will be boosted because of that relationship between SoFi Plus and credit card. We can start to benefit from not just targeting our members, but giving our members more value for using more than one product.
One is an everyday card where people get a much higher percentage reward on categories like food, or things that are used every day. The second card is more of a no frills, no surprises card for people that are in our ecosystem, that are members, but they have thin credit files, not because they have low credit, they just have very little credit because they may be a new professional. In addition to our existing card, not only will we launch two more cards, but we'll make those cards work better with our other products. If you're a SoFi Plus member, your rewards will be boosted because of that relationship between SoFi Plus and credit card. We can start to benefit from not just targeting our members, but giving our members more value for using more than one product.
Speaker Change: So what are the changes we're making in credit cards specifically? We'll launch two new cards. We'll be testing them slowly. One is an everyday card where people get a much higher percentage reward on categories like food or things that are used every day.
Speaker Change: The second card is more of a no-frills, no-surprises card for people that are in our ecosystem, that are members, but they have thin credit files, not because they have low credit, they just have very little credit because they may be a new professional, in addition to our existing card.
Anthony Noto: Not only will we launch two more cards, but we'll make those cards work better with our other products. So if you're a SoFi Plus member, your rewards will be boosted because of that relationship between SoFi Plus and Credit Card. And we can start to benefit from not just targeting our members, but giving our members more value for using more than one product. And you'll see us continue to do that over time.
Speaker Change: Not only will we launch two more cards, but we'll make those cards work better with our other products.
Speaker Change: So, if you're a SoFi Plus member, your rewards will be boosted because of that relationship between SoFi Plus and credit card.
Speaker Change: So we can start to benefit from not just targeting our members, but giving our members more value for using more than one product, and you'll see us continue to do that over time. But in credit card today, we're going to continue to move relatively slowly and not step on the gas too hard, because this is a business you can lose a lot of money, and you can lose it every day. It's unlike a loan where you give somebody a fixed amount. In credit card, you have lines that are quite big, and they can be utilized in nefarious ways and drive really high losses.
Anthony Noto: You'll see us continue to do that over time. If credit card today, we're going to continue to move relatively slowly and not step on the gas too hard, because this is a business you can lose a lot of money and you can lose it every day. It's unlike a loan where you give somebody a fixed amount. In credit card, you have lines that are quite big and they can be utilized in nefarious ways and drive really high losses. We'll continue to make sure we approach this prudently, but we are stepping on the gas a little bit more than we have in the past.
You'll see us continue to do that over time. If credit card today, we're going to continue to move relatively slowly and not step on the gas too hard, because this is a business you can lose a lot of money and you can lose it every day. It's unlike a loan where you give somebody a fixed amount. In credit card, you have lines that are quite big and they can be utilized in nefarious ways and drive really high losses. We'll continue to make sure we approach this prudently, but we are stepping on the gas a little bit more than we have in the past.
Anthony Noto: But in Credit Card today, we're going to continue to move relatively slowly and not step on the gas too hard because this is a business you can lose a lot of money, and you can lose it every day. It's unlike a loan where you give somebody a fixed amount.
Anthony Noto: In Credit Card, you have lines that are quite big, and they can be utilized in nefarious ways and drive really high losses. So we'll continue to make sure we approach this prudently, but we are stepping on the gas a little bit more than we have in the past. The next question comes from Jeff Adelson from Morgan Stanley. Jeff, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker Change: So, we'll continue to make sure we approach this prudently, but we are stepping on the gas a little bit more than we have in the past.
Operator: The next question comes from Jeff Adelson from Morgan Stanley. Jeff, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: The next question comes from Jeff Adelson from Morgan Stanley. Jeff, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Chris Lapointe: and Chris Lapointe.
Chris Lapointe: The next question comes from Geoff Adelson from Morgan Stanley . Geoff, your line is open, please go ahead.
Jeff Adelson: Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions this morning. I just wanted to circle back on the lending growth. I know you're still sort of maintaining a more cautious stance on origination there. You did a little bit better than we thought on originations this quarter, and your lending revenue growth looks like it's still up 5% year over year. I guess just, you know, are you seeing better opportunities coming in the door, and does it have anything maybe to do with more certainty around the forward look with rate cuts? I know you're talking about potential increase in unemployment rate from here as well. Just trying to square all that. Then, Chris, also just in terms of, you know, the bending of the curve comments on credit.
Jeffrey Adelson: Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions this morning. I just wanted to circle back on the lending growth. I know you're still sort of maintaining a more cautious stance on origination there. You did a little bit better than we thought on originations this quarter, and your lending revenue growth looks like it's still up 5% year over year. I guess just, you know, are you seeing better opportunities coming in the door, and does it have anything maybe to do with more certainty around the forward look with rate cuts? I know you're talking about potential increase in unemployment rate from here as well. Just trying to square all that. Then, Chris, also just in terms of, you know, the bending of the curve comments on credit.
Jeffrey Adelson: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my questions this morning. I just want to circle back on lending growth. I know you're still sort of maintaining a more cautious stance on origination. You did a little bit better than we thought on origination this quarter, and your lending revenue growth looks like it's still up 5% year over year. So I guess just, you know, are you seeing better opportunities coming in the door? And does it have anything maybe to do with more certainty around the forward look with rate cuts? I know you're talking about a potential increase in the unemployment rate from here as well, so just trying to square all that.
Jeffrey Adelson: Hey guys, thanks for taking my questions this morning. I just wanted to circle back on the lending growth. I know you're still sort of maintaining a more cautious stance on origination there. You did a little bit better than we thought on origination this quarter and your lending revenue growth looks like it's still up 5% year over year.
Speaker Change: You know, are you seeing...
Speaker Change: better opportunities coming in the door? And does it have anything maybe to do with more certainty around the forward look with with rate cuts? I know you're talking about potential increase in unemployment rate from here as well. So just trying to square all that and then, and then Chris also just in terms of, you know, the bending of the curve comments on credit.
Anthony Noto: And then Chris also just in terms of, you know, the bending of the curve comments on credit. Just wondering when you think that might translate into the, you know, all in 5.4% charge-off rates starting to come in lower each quarter as well. Thanks, guys.
Jeff Adelson: Just wondering when you think that might translate into the all-in 5.4% charge-off rates starting to come in lower each quarter as well.
Just wondering when you think that might translate into the all-in 5.4% charge-off rates starting to come in lower each quarter as well.
Chris Lapointe: Just wondering when you think that might translate into the all-in 5.4% charge-off rate starting to come in lower each quarter as well. Thanks, guys.
Anthony Noto: Thanks guys. In the lending business overall, our first objective is to make sure we continue to diversify the lending business relative to the total company. Less capital, less risky businesses get valued much higher, and we don't want to have an over dependence on a high capital, high risk business. This year, the macroeconomic environment accelerated our diversification, and it's worked out quite well. We also want to diversify within lending. As I mentioned, home equity loans is diversification into secured lending, which will be our second secured product. In addition to that, student loan refinancing is our oldest and used to be biggest product. We think is starting to come into a period where it can do quite well, and that's also diversification relative to unsecured personal loans, and then across home loan refinancing is also a vehicle as we go through the year.
Thanks guys.
Anthony Noto: In the lending business overall, our first objective is to make sure we continue to diversify the lending business relative to the total company. Less capital, less risky businesses get valued much higher, and we don't want to have an over dependence on a high capital, high risk business. This year, the macroeconomic environment accelerated our diversification, and it's worked out quite well. We also want to diversify within lending. As I mentioned, home equity loans is diversification into secured lending, which will be our second secured product. In addition to that, student loan refinancing is our oldest and used to be biggest product. We think is starting to come into a period where it can do quite well, and that's also diversification relative to unsecured personal loans, and then across home loan refinancing is also a vehicle as we go through the year.
Anthony Noto: So in the lending business overall, our first objective is to make sure we continue to diversify the lending business relative to the total company. Less capital, less risky businesses get valued much higher, and we don't wanna have an over-dependence on a high capital, high risk business. And this year, the macroeconomic environment accelerated our diversification, and it's worked out quite well. We also want to diversify within lending. As I mentioned, home equity loans are a diversification into secured lending, which will be our second secured product.
Speaker Change: So, in the lending business overall, our first objective is to make sure we continue to diversify the lending business relative to the total company. Less capital, less risky businesses get valued much higher, and we don't want to have an over-dependence on a high-capital, high-risk business. And this year, the macroeconomic environment accelerated our diversification, and it's worked out quite well.
Speaker Change: We also want to diversify within lending, as I mentioned, home equity loans is diversification into secured lending, which will be our second secured product. In addition to that, student loan refinancing is our oldest.
Anthony Noto: In addition to that, student loan refinancing is our oldest and used to be our biggest product, and we think it is starting to come into a period where it can do quite well. And that's also diversification relative to unsecured personal loans. And then across home loan refinancing is also a vehicle.
Speaker Change: used to be the biggest product we think is starting to come into a period where it can do quite well. And that's also diversification relative to unsecured personal loans. And then across home loan refinancing is also a vehicle. As we go through the year, I think it's important just to understand, we're trying to manage the overall growth of the company. We have so much resources we want to allocate, and we're allocating it to drive that outcome of diversified, less risky, less capital-intensive businesses.
Anthony Noto: As we go through the year, I think it's important just to understand we're trying to manage the overall growth of the company. We have so much resources we want to allocate, and we're allocating them to drive that outcome of diversified, less risky, less capital-intensive businesses. If we wanted to grow personal loans more, we'd have to allocate more capital to it. Why?
Anthony Noto: I think it's important just to understand we're trying to manage to the overall growth of the company. We have so much, so many resources we want to allocate, and we're allocating it to drive that outcome of diversified, less risky, less capital intensive businesses. If we wanted to grow personal loans more, we would have to allocate more capital to it. Why? We have to drive marketing that drives the top of the funnel, that then drives conversion. Those loans don't just happen because we decide to actually underwrite more. We actually have to spend money to underwrite more. Right now, we're choosing to spend that money in different areas that don't drive as much revenue. Despite that trade-off, we're still driving 22% year over year revenue growth and a record, despite barely growing personal loans.
I think it's important just to understand we're trying to manage to the overall growth of the company. We have so much, so many resources we want to allocate, and we're allocating it to drive that outcome of diversified, less risky, less capital intensive businesses. If we wanted to grow personal loans more, we would have to allocate more capital to it. Why? We have to drive marketing that drives the top of the funnel, that then drives conversion. Those loans don't just happen because we decide to actually underwrite more. We actually have to spend money to underwrite more. Right now, we're choosing to spend that money in different areas that don't drive as much revenue. Despite that trade-off, we're still driving 22% year over year revenue growth and a record, despite barely growing personal loans.
Anthony Noto: We have to drive marketing that drives the top of the funnel that then drives conversion. Those loans don't just happen because we decide to actually underwrite more. We actually have to spend money to underwrite more. Right now, we're choosing to spend that money in different areas that don't drive as much revenue. But despite that trade-off, we're still driving 22% year-over-year revenue growth and a record despite barely growing personal loans. So it's a very conscious effort to diversify in a number of different ways.
Speaker Change: If we wanted to grow personal loans more, we'd have to allocate more capital to it. Why? We have to drive marketing that drives the top of the funnel that then drives conversion. Those loans don't just happen because we decide to actually underwrite more. We actually have to spend money to underwrite more. Right now, we're choosing to spend that money in different areas that don't drive as much revenue.
Speaker Change: But despite that trade-off, we're still driving 22% year-over-year revenue growth and a record despite barely growing personal loans.
Anthony Noto: It's a very conscious effort to diversify in a number of different ways. Diversification means you reallocate resources. Other places. If we reallocated the personal loans, we would not achieve a diversification. What happened in the quarter, our marketing costs were more efficient. The money we were spending was driving more demand than otherwise would have demanded or otherwise would have driven. We took advantage of the higher unit economics to drive more volume against a set amount of resources. In that area, we could be more aggressive if we choose to allocate more resources than lending. That could happen because we have upside in other businesses. That could happen because the marketing efficiency is greater than we anticipated, or the credit is performing better, or we sell more loans.
It's a very conscious effort to diversify in a number of different ways. Diversification means you reallocate resources. Other places. If we reallocated the personal loans, we would not achieve a diversification. What happened in the quarter, our marketing costs were more efficient. The money we were spending was driving more demand than otherwise would have demanded or otherwise would have driven. We took advantage of the higher unit economics to drive more volume against a set amount of resources. In that area, we could be more aggressive if we choose to allocate more resources than lending. That could happen because we have upside in other businesses. That could happen because the marketing efficiency is greater than we anticipated, or the credit is performing better, or we sell more loans.
Anthony Noto: Diversification means you reallocate resources to other places. If we reallocated to personal loans, we would not achieve diversification. Now, what happened in the quarter? Our marketing costs were more efficient. The money we were spending was driving more demand than otherwise would have demanded or otherwise would have driven. And we took advantage of the higher unit economics to drive more volume against a set amount of resources in that area.
Speaker Change: So it's a very conscious effort to diversify in a number of different ways. Diversification means you reallocate resources other places.
Speaker Change: If we reallocated to personal loans, we would not achieve redressification.
Speaker Change: Now, what happened in the quarter? Our marketing costs were more efficient. The money we were spending was driving more demand than otherwise would have demanded or otherwise would have driven, and we took advantage of the higher unit economics to drive more volume against a set amount of resources in that area.
Anthony Noto: We could be more aggressive if we choose to allocate more resources than lending. That could happen because we have upside in other businesses. That could happen because marketing efficiency is greater than we anticipated, or credit is performing better, or we sell more loans. And so it's not because the growth isn't there. It's how we're choosing to allocate capital in this environment relative to our broader goals. And I'll let Chris talk about the specific question you had about the losses.
Speaker Change: We could be more aggressive if we choose to, to allocate more resources than lending. That could happen because we have upside in other businesses. That could happen because the marketing efficiency is greater than we anticipated, or the credit is performing better, or we sell more loans.
Anthony Noto: It's not because the growth isn't there, it's how we're choosing to allocate the capital in this environment relative to our broader goals. I'll let Chris talk about the specific question you had on the losses.
It's not because the growth isn't there, it's how we're choosing to allocate the capital in this environment relative to our broader goals. I'll let Chris talk about the specific question you had on the losses.
Chris Lapointe: And so it's not because the growth isn't there, it's how we're choosing to allocate the capital in this environment relative to our broader goals. And I'll let Chris talk about the specific question you had on the losses. Yeah, and in terms of when some of these early DQ trends will start to show up in the NCOs, we're sticking with our overall guidance of being confident in the 7% to 8% life alone losses, and we aren't guiding to NCO rates specifically. The reason for that is quite simple. The NCO rate is very lumpy. It's a function of a number of factors.
Chris Lapointe: Yeah. In terms of when some of these early DQ trends will start to show up in the NCOs, we're sticking with our overall guidance of being confident in the 7% to 8% life alone losses. We aren't guiding to NCO rates specifically. The reason for that is quite simple. The NCO rate is very lumpy. It's a function of a number of different factors, such as originations in the period, sales in the period, and most importantly, the average age or how much UPB remains on the portfolio, which can be driven by a number of things. Overall, we feel really confident in our life alone loss expectation of 7% to 8%. We're not guiding to NCOs because they're so lumpy.
Chris Lapointe: Yeah. In terms of when some of these early DQ trends will start to show up in the NCOs, we're sticking with our overall guidance of being confident in the 7% to 8% life alone losses. We aren't guiding to NCO rates specifically. The reason for that is quite simple. The NCO rate is very lumpy. It's a function of a number of different factors, such as originations in the period, sales in the period, and most importantly, the average age or how much UPB remains on the portfolio, which can be driven by a number of things. Overall, we feel really confident in our life alone loss expectation of 7% to 8%. We're not guiding to NCOs because they're so lumpy.
Chris Lapointe: Yeah, and in terms of when some of these early DQ trends will start to show up in the NCOs, we're sticking with our overall guidance of being confident in the 7% to 8% life alone losses, and we aren't guiding to NCO rates specifically. The reason for that is quite simple. The NCO rate is very lumpy. It's a function of a number of different factors, such as originations in the period, sales in the period, and most importantly, the average age or how much UPB remains on the portfolio, which can be driven by a number of things. So overall, we feel really confident in our life alone loss expectation of 7% to 8%, but we're not guiding to NCOs because they're so lumpy. Absolutely.
Chris Lapointe: Different factors such as originations in the period, sales in the period.
Chris Lapointe: And most importantly, the average age or how much UPB remains on the portfolio, which can be driven by a number of things. So overall, we feel really confident in our life alone loss expectation of 7 to 8%, but we're not guiding to NCOs because they're so lumpy.
Operator: Final question today comes from Peter Christianson from Citigroup. Peter, your line is open. Please go ahead. Thank you. Thanks for the question here. Good morning. Nice trends. I was wondering if you could talk about the appetite for future asset sales, either demand for it, but also your risk transfer strategy kind of going forward from here. Given that you are seeing improvements, credit improvements in your portfolio, particularly in the personal loan portfolio, just how are you thinking about risk transfer from here and if there's further opportunities to de-risk the portfolio? Thank you.
Operator: Final question today comes from Peter Christianson from Citigroup. Peter, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Peter Christiansen: Thank you. Thanks for the question here. Good morning. Nice trends. I was wondering if you could talk about the appetite for future asset sales, either demand for it, but also your risk transfer strategy kind of going forward from here. Given that you are seeing improvements, credit improvements in your portfolio, particularly in the personal loan portfolio, just how are you thinking about risk transfer from here and if there's further opportunities to de-risk the portfolio? Thank you.
Chris Lapointe: Final question today comes from Peter Christiansen from Citigroup. Peter, your line is open, please go ahead.
Peter Christiansen: Thank you. Thanks for the question here. Good morning. Nice trends. I was wondering if you could talk about the appetite for future asset sales.
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Speaker Change: credit improvement in your portfolio, particularly in the personal loan portfolio. Just how are you thinking about risk transfer from here? And if there's further opportunities to de-risk the portfolio? Thank you. Transcribed by https://otter.ai
Chris Lapointe: Yep, absolutely. Overall, we're seeing continued strong demand from credit buyers. We've done $3.3 billion sales over the course of the last three quarters in our personal loan business, and $4.7 billion in aggregate. That's predominantly driven by the shape of the interest rate curve, with lower expectations in the second half of this year as well as the next several years. We have very attractive yielding assets with very strong credit profiles and low risk for buyers. Essentially, buyers are looking into locking purchases and programs ahead of any interest rate cuts. In addition to that, we have a really strong balance sheet. We are able to offer flexible deal structures to meet buyers where they need to be. We are one of the few participants that can sell in size. It allows investors to put money to work.
Chris Lapointe: Yep, absolutely. Overall, we're seeing continued strong demand from credit buyers. We've done $3.3 billion sales over the course of the last three quarters in our personal loan business, and $4.7 billion in aggregate. That's predominantly driven by the shape of the interest rate curve, with lower expectations in the second half of this year as well as the next several years. We have very attractive yielding assets with very strong credit profiles and low risk for buyers. Essentially, buyers are looking into locking purchases and programs ahead of any interest rate cuts. In addition to that, we have a really strong balance sheet. We are able to offer flexible deal structures to meet buyers where they need to be. We are one of the few participants that can sell in size. It allows investors to put money to work.
Chris Lapointe: So overall, we're seeing continued strong demand from credit buyers. We've done $3.3 billion in sales over the course of the last three quarters in our personally owned business and $4.7 billion in aggregate. That's predominantly driven by the shape of the interest rate curve with lower expectations in the second half of this year, as well as the next several years.
Speaker Change: Yep, absolutely. So overall we're seeing continued strong demand from credit buyers. We've done 3.3 billion dollars in sales over the course of the last three quarters.
Speaker Change: in our personal and business and 4.7 in aggregate. That's predominantly driven by the shape of the interest rate curve with lower expectations in the second half of this year, as well as the next several years.
Chris Lapointe: So we have very attractive yielding assets with very strong credit profiles and low risk for buyers. Essentially, buyers are looking into lock-in purchases and programs ahead of any interest rate cuts. In addition to that, we have a really strong balance sheet, so we are able to offer flexible deal structures to meet buyers where they need to be. We are one of the few participants that can sell in size. It allows investors to put money to work. It allows buyers to have one buyer versus many, and it allows them to have a long-term partner versus doing bespoke one-off transactions that require a ton of work.
Speaker Change: So, we have very attractive yielding assets with very strong credit profiles and low risk for buyers. Essentially, buyers are looking into lock-in purchases and programs ahead of any interest rate cuts.
Speaker Change: In addition to that, we have a really strong balance sheet. We are able to offer flexible deal structures to meet buyers where they need to be. We are one of the few participants that can sell in size. It allows investors to put money to work.
Chris Lapointe: It allows buyers to have one buyer versus many, and it allows them to have a long-term partner versus doing bespoke one-off transactions that require a ton of work. Buyers want stability of asset generation. Looking forward, we expect to see continued strong demand from credit buyers. In a declining rate environment, we would expect that demand only to increase as those buyers would have lower cost of leverage. Again, we're one of the few folks that have a sizable balance sheet who can do that.
It allows buyers to have one buyer versus many, and it allows them to have a long-term partner versus doing bespoke one-off transactions that require a ton of work. Buyers want stability of asset generation. Looking forward, we expect to see continued strong demand from credit buyers. In a declining rate environment, we would expect that demand only to increase as those buyers would have lower cost of leverage. Again, we're one of the few folks that have a sizable balance sheet who can do that.
Speaker Change: It allows buyers to have one buyer versus many, and it allows them to have a long-term partner versus doing bespoke one-off transactions that require a ton of work.
Chris Lapointe: Buyers want stability of asset generation, so looking forward, we expect to see continued strong demand from credit buyers. In a declining rate environment, we would expect that demand only to increase as those buyers would have a lower cost of leverage.
Speaker Change: Buyers want stability of asset generation. So, looking forward, we expect to see continued strong demand from credit buyers.
Speaker Change: In a declining rate environment, we would expect that demand only to increase.
Chris Lapointe: And again, we're one of the few folks that have a sizable balance sheet who can do that. We'll take one more question, Operator, and then I'll close with comments. Hey, good morning.
Speaker Change: as those buyers would have lower cost of leverage. And again, we're one of the few folks that have a sizable balance sheet who can do that.
Anthony Noto: I will take one more question, operator, and then I'll close with comments.
I will take one more question, operator, and then I'll close with comments.
Speaker Change: We'll take one more question, Operator, and then I'll close with comments.
Operator: The final question comes from Tim Switzer from Stifel. Tim, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Operator: The final question comes from Tim Switzer from Stifel. Tim, your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker Change: The final question comes from Tim Switzer from Stiefel. Tim, your line is open, please go ahead.
Anthony Noto: Hey, good morning.
Tim Switzer: Hey, good morning.
Unknown Attendee: Thank you for taking my question. How would a return to a lower rate environment kind of change the ROE map you guys have talked about choosing to retain loans versus selling? Do you believe it could strengthen demand at all in the secondary market and change your balance sheet management at all?
[Analyst]: Thank you for taking my question.
Thank you for taking my question.
Anthony Noto: How would a return to a lower.
How would a return to a lower.
Tim Switzer: Hey, good morning. Thank you for taking my question. How would a return to a lower-rate environment kind of change the ROE map you guys have talked about on choosing to retain loans for selling? Do you believe it could strengthen demand at all in the secondary market and kind of change your balance sheet management at all?
[Analyst]: Rate environment kind of change the ROE.
Rate environment kind of change the ROE.
Chris Lapointe: Math you guys have talked about on.
Math you guys have talked about on.
[Analyst]: Choosing to retain loans versus selling, do you believe it could strengthen demand?
Choosing to retain loans versus selling, do you believe it could strengthen demand?
Chris Lapointe: At all in the secondary market.
At all in the secondary market.
[Analyst]: Kind of change your balance sheet management at all?
Kind of change your balance sheet management at all?
Anthony Noto: I would say generally lower rates are going to make the loans more attractive to those without origination platforms that have assets they need to deploy. Our weighted average coupon is quite high, and that ROE becomes more attractive as the rate environment declines and there's less places for them to find that type of yield. We've seen that in the past be the case. We would anticipate more demand. We'd have to manage it relative to our production and our own financial goals. I do believe the demand would increase, the terms would be more favorable, and the values also would be attractive. We have to wait and see that happen, but that's what we've seen in the past. Great. In closing, I want to express my gratitude to our team.
Anthony Noto: I would say generally lower rates are going to make the loans more attractive to those without origination platforms that have assets they need to deploy. Our weighted average coupon is quite high, and that ROE becomes more attractive as the rate environment declines and there's less places for them to find that type of yield. We've seen that in the past be the case. We would anticipate more demand. We'd have to manage it relative to our production and our own financial goals. I do believe the demand would increase, the terms would be more favorable, and the values also would be attractive. We have to wait and see that happen, but that's what we've seen in the past. Great. In closing, I want to express my gratitude to our team.
Speaker Change: I would say generally lower rates.
Speaker Change: are going to make the loans more attractive to those without origination platforms that have assets they need to deploy.
Speaker Change: Our weighted average coupon is quite high, and that ROE becomes more attractive as rate environment declines, and there's less places for them to find that type of yield.
Speaker Change: We've seen that in the past be the case. So we would anticipate more demand. We'd have to manage it relative to our production and our own financial goals, but I do believe the demand would increase and the terms would be more favorable and the values also would be attractive. We have to wait and see that happen, but that's what we've seen in the past.
Anthony Noto: Great. In closing, I want to express my gratitude to our team. Q2 was the most rewarding quarter and, dare I say, the most fun that I've had in some time at SoFi. What made it special and fun was that we challenged ourselves to be better in areas that are the most difficult in the current environment, that aren't supposed to do well in this environment, such as home loans and student loan refinancing, which had volume increases of 71% and 87% year over year.
Anthony Noto: Q2 was the most rewarding quarter, and dare I say, the most fun that I've had in some time at SoFi. What made it special and fun was that we challenged ourselves to be better in areas that are the most difficult in the current environment, that aren't supposed to do well in this environment, such as home loans and student loan refinancing that had volume increases of 71% and 87% year over year. The team found a way to be better continuously throughout the entire quarter, not just each month or each week, but literally each day, finishing strong all the way through the tape, when, quite frankly, the only reason was because we pushed ourselves to keep iterating.
Q2 was the most rewarding quarter, and dare I say, the most fun that I've had in some time at SoFi. What made it special and fun was that we challenged ourselves to be better in areas that are the most difficult in the current environment, that aren't supposed to do well in this environment, such as home loans and student loan refinancing that had volume increases of 71% and 87% year over year. The team found a way to be better continuously throughout the entire quarter, not just each month or each week, but literally each day, finishing strong all the way through the tape, when, quite frankly, the only reason was because we pushed ourselves to keep iterating.
Speaker Change: Great. In closing, I want to express my gratitude to our team.
Speaker Change: Q2 was the most rewarding quarter and dare I say the most fun that I've had in some time at SoFi.
Speaker Change: What made it special and fun was that we challenged ourselves to be better in areas that are the most difficult in the current environment that aren't supposed to do well in this environment, such as home loans and student loan refinancing that had volume increases of 71% and 87% year-over-year.
Speaker Change: The team found a way to be better continuously throughout the entire quarter, not just each month or each week, but literally each day.
Speaker Change: finishing strong all the way through the tape when, quite frankly, the only reason was because we pushed ourselves to keep iterating.
Anthony Noto: It was also fun because we made hard resource allocation decisions in 2023 that meant doing less than we wanted to in areas with great growth potential, such as Invest and Credit Card, where we are now seeing promising results. Our Invest business is accelerating, with AUM up 58% on the back of a lot of hard work and only a couple of important areas, and a testament that less can be more in our Credit Card business. The immediate gains from all of our iteration aren't so large today, but with time and scale, they will be massive and well worth the patience. If you can't tell by now, I feel great.
It was also fun because we made hard resource allocation decisions in 2023 that meant doing less than we wanted to in areas with great growth potential, such as Invest and Credit Card, where we are now seeing promising results. Our Invest business is accelerating, with AUM up 58% on the back of a lot of hard work and only a couple of important areas, and a testament that less can be more in our Credit Card business. The immediate gains from all of our iteration aren't so large today, but with time and scale, they will be massive and well worth the patience. If you can't tell by now, I feel great.
Speaker Change: It was also fun because we made hard resource allocation decisions in 2023 that meant doing less than we wanted to in areas with great growth potential, such as invest in credit card, where we are now seeing promising results.
Anthony Noto: The team found a way to be better continuously throughout the entire quarter. Our invest business is accelerating with AUM up 58% on the back of a lot of hard work and only a couple of important areas, and a testament that less can be more. In our credit card business, the immediate gains from all of our iterations aren't so large today, but with time and scale, they will be massive and well worth the patience.
Speaker Change: Our investment business is accelerating with AUM up 58% on the back of a lot of hard work and only a couple of important areas and a testament that less can be more.
Speaker Change: In our credit card business, the immediate gains from all of our iterations aren't so large today. But with time and scale, they will be massive and well worth the patience.
Anthony Noto: To put it bluntly, I do not know of any financial services company or fintech that has transformed their business to be less risky, less capital intensive, while still driving strong revenue growth, 40+% user growth, all while massively increasing profitability, and still funding a rapid pace of innovation. When you take a step back, it's inspiring to see we hit record revenue of nearly $600 million with 22% year over year growth, despite lending barely growing. We did that because we achieved record revenue in our financial services segment at $176 million, up 80% year over year, on the back of 47% year over year growth in products, 80% year over year growth in deposits, 58% year over year growth in AUM, and 67% year over year growth in interchange.
To put it bluntly, I do not know of any financial services company or fintech that has transformed their business to be less risky, less capital intensive, while still driving strong revenue growth, 40+% user growth, all while massively increasing profitability, and still funding a rapid pace of innovation. When you take a step back, it's inspiring to see we hit record revenue of nearly $600 million with 22% year over year growth, despite lending barely growing. We did that because we achieved record revenue in our financial services segment at $176 million, up 80% year over year, on the back of 47% year over year growth in products, 80% year over year growth in deposits, 58% year over year growth in AUM, and 67% year over year growth in interchange.
Speaker Change: If you can't tell by now, I feel great. To put it bluntly, I do not know of any financial services company or fintech that has transformed their business to be less risky, less capital intensive, while still driving strong revenue growth, 40 plus percent user growth, all while massively increasing profitability and still funding a rapid pace of innovation.
Speaker Change: When you take a step back, it's inspiring to see. We hit record revenue of nearly $600 million with 22% year-over-year growth despite lending barely growing.
Speaker Change: We did that because we achieved record revenue in our financial services segment at $176 million, up 80% year-over-year on the back of 47% year-over-year growth in products.
Speaker Change: 80% year-over-year growth in deposits, 58% year-over-year growth in AUM, and 67% year-over-year growth in interchange.
Anthony Noto: In lending, we grew home loan volume 71% year over year, student loan refinancing volume 87% year over year, and personal loan volume 12% year over year, while delinquencies declined on an absolute and percentage basis for Plus. We provide vintage analysis that clearly shows why we are comfortable with personal loan life alone loss forecast. Finally, we grew EBITDA 80% year over year. I love what we have built, but more than ever I love the people we are building it with, and the gritty culture we have created. Hard is not for everyone, but for me and those who stay at SoFi, it fits just fine. Thank you for your interest in SOFI, and talk to you next quarter.
In lending, we grew home loan volume 71% year over year, student loan refinancing volume 87% year over year, and personal loan volume 12% year over year, while delinquencies declined on an absolute and percentage basis for Plus. We provide vintage analysis that clearly shows why we are comfortable with personal loan life alone loss forecast. Finally, we grew EBITDA 80% year over year. I love what we have built, but more than ever I love the people we are building it with, and the gritty culture we have created. Hard is not for everyone, but for me and those who stay at SoFi, it fits just fine. Thank you for your interest in SOFI, and talk to you next quarter.
Speaker Change: In blending, we grew hormone volume 71% year-over-year.
Speaker Change: Student loan refinancing volume 87% year-over-year, and personal loan volume 12% year-over-year, while delinquencies declined on an absolute and percentage basis for PL, and we provided vintage analysis that clearly shows why we are comfortable with personal loan, life of loan, and loss forecasts. And finally, we grew EBITDA 80% year-over-year.
Anthony Noto: I love what we have built, but more than ever, I love the people we are building it with and the gritty culture we have created. Hard work is not for everyone, but for me and those who stay at SoFi, it fits just fine.
Speaker Change: I love what we have built, but more than ever, I love the people we are building it with and the gritty culture we have created. Hard is not for everyone, but for me and those who stay at SoFi, it fits just fine. Thank you for your interest in SoFi and talk to you next quarter.
Unknown Attendee: Thank you for your interest in SoFi, and I'll talk to you next quarter. This concludes today's call. Thank you very much for your attendance. You may now disconnect your line.
Operator: This concludes today's call. Thank you very much for your attendance. You may now disconnect your line.
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Speaker Change: This concludes today's call. Thank you very much for your attendance. You may now disconnect your line.
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Anthony Noto: Those stay at SoFi.
Anthony Noto: Those stay at SoFi.
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