Q2 2024 Appian Corp Earnings Call
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Operator: Welcome to the Appian's second quarter 2024 earnings conference call.
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Jack Andrews: Jack Andrews, please go ahead.
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Jack Andrews: Thank you, operator. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. Today, we will review Appian's second quarter 2024 financial results. With me are Matt Calkins, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Mark Matheos, Chief Financial Officer. After prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions.
Jack Andrews: Thank you, operator. Good morning and thank you for joining us. Today we will review Appian's second quarter 2024 financial results.
Speaker Change: With me are Matt Calkins, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Mark Matheos, Chief Financial Officer. After prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions.
Jack Andrews: During this call, we may make statements related to our business that are forward-looking under federal securities laws and are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These include comments related to our financial results, trends and guidance for the third quarter and full year 2024, the benefits of our platform industry and market trends, our go-to-market and gross strategy, our market opportunity and ability to expand our leadership position, our ability to maintain and upsell existing customers, and our ability to acquire new customers. The words anticipate, continue, estimate, expect, intend, will, and similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements or similar indications of future expectations.
Speaker Change: During this call, we may make statements related to our business that are forward-looking under federal securities laws and are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
Speaker Change: These include comments related to our financial results.
Speaker Change: Trends and Guidance for the Third Quarter and Full Year 2024, the benefits of our platform, industry, and market trends.
Speaker Change: Our Go-To-Market and Growth Strategy, our Market Opportunity and Ability to Expand our Leadership Position, our Ability to Maintain and Upsell Existing Customers,
Speaker Change: and our ability to acquire new customers. The words anticipate, continue, estimate, expect, intend, will, and similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements or similar indications of future expectations.
Jack Andrews: These statements reflect our views only as of today. They do not represent our views as of any subsequent date. They are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to be different materially from expectations. For a discussion of the material risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, refer to our 2023-10-K, our Q2-2024-10-Q filing, and other periodic filings with the SEC. These documents are available on the investors section of our website.
Speaker Change: These statements reflect our views only as of today. They do not represent our views as of any subsequent date. They are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations.
Unknown Executive: For a discussion of the material risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, refer to our 2023-10-K, our Q2 2024-10-Q filing, and other periodic filings with the SEC. These documents are available on the Investors section of our website. Additionally, non-GAAP financial measures will be discussed on this conference call. Refer to the tables in our earnings release for reconciliation of these measures to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measures.
Speaker Change: For a discussion of the material risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, refer to our 2023-10-K, our Q2 2024-10-Q filing, and other periodic filings with the SEC. These documents are available on the Investors section of our website.
Jack Andrews: Additionally, non-GAAP financial measures will be discussed on this conference call. Refer to the tables in our earnings release for reconciliation of these measures to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measures.
Speaker Change: Additionally, non-GAAP financial measures will be discussed on this conference call. Refer to the tables in our earnings release for a reconciliation of these measures to their most directly comparable GAAP financial measures.
Unknown Executive: With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our CEO, Matt Calkins. Matt? Thanks, Jack. In the second quarter of 2024, Appian's cloud subscription revenue grew 19% year-over-year to $88.4 million. We've applied more scrutiny to our investments and steadily improved our profitability.
Jack Andrews: With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our CEO, Matt Galkins.
Matthew Calkins: Matt? Thanks, Jack. In the second quarter of 2024, Appian's cloud subscription revenue grew 19% year over year at $88.4 million. Subscriptions revenue grew 20% to 113 million. Total revenue grew 15% year over year at 146.5 million. Our cloud subscription revenue retention rate was 118% as of June 30. Adjusted EBITDA was a loss of 10.5 million. Appian is a growth company, and revenue growth continues to be our top priority. We are not indifferent to efficiency. We've applied more scrutiny to our investments and steadily improved our profitability.
Speaker Change: With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our CEO , Matt Calkins. Matt? Thanks, Jack. In the second quarter of 2024, Appian's cloud subscription revenue grew 19% year-over-year at $88.4 million.
Matthew Calkins: This quarter, we took action to reduce non-strategic go-to-market expenditures. With these moves, we now expect to break even on Adjusted EBITDA for the full year 2024.
Speaker Change: We've applied more scrutiny to our investments and steadily improved our profitability. This quarter, we took action to reduce non-strategic go-to-market expenditures. With these moves, we now expect to break even on a justitia vida for the full year 2024.
Matthew Calkins: Mark will provide more details as prepared marks. Recently, I've immersed myself in our sales and marketing functions. I've spoken extensively with hundreds of customers, prospects, partners, and Appian staff. Together we've discovered ways we can better allocate resources and align energy behind our business strategy. We're leaning at areas where the return on investment is the strongest, specifically, large transactions and our best industry verticals. Appian's particular advantage is at the high end of our market. It's where we've experienced our most success. Appian appeals to the C-suite, the large enterprise, and the mission critically use case. Here we have some of our highest win rates, highest expansion rates, and highest retention rates.
Speaker Change: Recently I've immersed myself in our sales and marketing functions. I've spoken extensively with hundreds of customers, prospects, partners, and Appian staff. Together we've discovered ways we can better allocate resources and align energy behind our business strategy.
Speaker Change: We're leaning into areas where the return on investment is the strongest, specifically large transactions and our best industry verticals.
Matthew Calkins: And for good reason, our platform delivers the greatest impact to the most discerning customers. Our gross retention rate of 99 percent is best in class in enterprise software. Many of our largest customers save millions of dollars and thousands of labor hours every year with Appian. Our key verticals continue to be our growth engine. Over 70 percent of Appian's revenue comes from financial services, life sciences, and public sector. Roughly half of the world's largest companies and US agencies, and these verticals are Appian customers. We have decades of specialized industry expertise and a proven track record of automating the most complex processes for these organizations.
Matthew W. Calkins: Our gross retention rate of 99% is best in class in enterprise software. Many of our largest customers save millions of dollars and thousands of labor hours every year with Appian. Our key verticals continue to be our growth engine. Over 70% of Appian's revenue comes from financial services, life sciences, and the public sector. Roughly half of the world's largest companies and U.S. agencies in these verticals are Appian customers.
Speaker Change: Roughly half of the world's largest companies and U.S. agencies in these verticals are Appian customers. We have decades of specialized industry expertise and a proven track record of automating the most complex processes for these organizations.
Matthew W. Calkins: We have decades of specialized industry expertise and a proven track record of automating the most complex processes for these organizations. We have momentum with our GAM suite, Government Acquisition Management. We are broadening our investment in the GAM suite because adoption has been strong. GAM bookings more than doubled in the first half of this year compared to the same period last year.
Matthew Calkins: Public sector is one of our most successful verticals. We have momentum with our GAM suite, Government Acquisition Management, GAM suite. Agencies use GAM to manage their detailed processes for procuring goods and services. We are broadening our investment in the suite because the adoption has been strong. GAM bookings more than doubled in the first half of this year compared to the same period last year. To build on this momentum, we launched a service this spring to complement GAM. Procure site is an AI driven website that consolidates major public procurement data sets. Government professionals can use it to synthesize past procurements and generate new procurement documents.
Speaker Change: Government Acquisition Management, GAMSuite.
Matthew W. Calkins: To build on this momentum, we launched a service this spring to complement GAM. For example, one agency that manages emergency responses to natural disasters purchased a seven-figure software deal and became a new Appian customer in Q2. Given the rise in wildfires, the agency needs to respond to incidents faster.
Matthew Calkins: Dozens of federal agencies use Procure site today. For example, one agency that manages emergency responses to natural disasters purchased a seven-figure software deal and became a new Appian customer in Q2. Given the rise in wildfires, the agency needs to respond to incidents faster. It will use our full GAM suite to reduce the time it takes to procure firefighting resources. Before Appian, the agency ran procurement operations across a combination of disparate systems and physical paper forms. Now, it will manage billions of dollars of annual procurements on Appian.
Speaker Change: For example, one agency that manages emergency responses to natural disasters purchased a seven-figure software deal and became a new Appian customer in Q2. Given the rise in wildfires, the agency needs to respond to incidents faster.
Matthew W. Calkins: It will use our full GAM suite to reduce the time it takes to procure firefighting resources before Appian, the agency, runs procurement operations across a combination of disparate systems and physical paper forms. Appian is a leading process automation platform. The completeness of our platform is appreciated by users and recognized by analysts. Analysts call us leaders in Enterprise Low-Code Application Development, Business Workflow Automation, Digital Process Automation, and Process Orchestration. A top medical insurance provider manages claim disputes and payouts on Appian.
Speaker Change: It'll use our full GAM suite to reduce the time it takes to procure firefighting resources. Before Appian, the agency ran procurement operations across a combination of disparate systems and physical paper forms. Now, it'll manage billions of dollars of annual procurements on Appian.
Matthew Calkins: Another federal agency that supports natural security and defense national security defense became an Appian customer this quarter. It wants to replace an inflexible procurement system that is costly to maintain. The agency has strict application hosting requirements because its data is sensitive. In Q2, it purchased a seven-figure software deal for GAM and will deploy it onto the Appian Government Cloud. As a reminder, Appian was one of the first dozen or so companies to receive a provisional authorization at Impact Level Five. Now, the agency can securely deploy GAM to the cloud and maintain a low total cost of ownership for its Appian application.
Speaker Change: Another federal agency that supports national security and defense. National security and defense became an Appian customer this quarter. It wants to replace an inflexible procurement system that's costly to maintain.
Speaker Change: The agency has strict application hosting requirements because its data is sensitive.
Matthew Calkins: Within life sciences, we signed a top global clinical research organization as a new customer this quarter. Our platform will manage the organization's process for selecting clinical study sites. Appian's data fabric will bring together data from many systems into a single application. Suicide investigators and project managers can select locations based on the study's criteria, resource and capacity, and a country's regulations. The company used to manage this complex process manually across systems. Now it aims to make selections 80% faster using Appian. We continue to sign large expansion deals within Appian's financial services vertical.
Speaker Change: Within Life Sciences, we signed a top global clinical research organization as a new customer this quarter. Our platform will manage the organization's process for selecting clinical study sites.
Speaker Change: Appian Data Fabric will bring together data from many systems into a single application so site investigators and project managers can select locations based on the study's criteria, resource and capacity, and a country's regulations.
Matthew Calkins: Earlier this year, we launched a new pricing structure, a new pricing structure to upsell our existing customers and monetize our latest features like Appian AI. Here's an example of this upsell strategy. In Q2, an international insurance company increased its annual Appian software spend by more than 50%. The insurer has been a customer for a few years and uses our platform to manage claims disputes. This quarter purchased a seven-figure software deal to upgrade to our new pricing and access our latest features. It will add thousands more users to the process and to play Appian AI to categorize millions of claims. We won this deal because AI is a native feature of our platform and easy to adopt.
Speaker Change: We continue to sign large expansion deals within Appian's financial services vertical. Earlier this year we launched a new pricing structure to upsell our existing customers and monetize our latest features like Appian AI. Here is an example of this upsell strategy.
Speaker Change: In Q2, an international insurance company increased its annual Appian software spend by more than 50%.
Speaker Change: It will add thousands more users to the process and deploy Appian AI to categorize millions of claims.
Speaker Change: We won this deal because AI is a native feature of our platform and easy to adopt.
Matthew Calkins: Appian AI enhances worker productivity by, among other things, generating code based on a prompt, summarizing large amounts of data, and recommending user responses. Our AI is powerful because it has the context of the customer's processes and data. It has the context. Our AI is also private because we use data fabric and retrieve a logmented generation or rag to avoid training in AI algorithm. We don't train them. This quarter, usage of Appian AI doubled compared to last quarter.
Speaker Change: Our AI is powerful because it has the context of the customer's processes and data. It has the context. Our AI is also private because we use data fabric and retrieval augmented generation, or RAG, to avoid training an AI algorithm. We don't train them.
Matthew Calkins: Here's an example. In Q2, a medical transportation and emergency response company automated its claim dispute processes with Appian. Under new government regulations, the company has 20 days to appeal disputes. Now, case workers respond more efficiently using our automation capabilities. First, Appian AI classifies and ingests payer disputes. Then, Appian RPA bots retrieve data from various systems about the medical incident with Appian. Our customer expects to handle disputes faster, increasing revenue by tens of millions of dollars annually.
Speaker Change: This quarter, usage of Appian AI doubled compared to last quarter. Here's an example. In Q2, a medical transportation and emergency response company automated its claim dispute processes with Appian. Under new government regulations, the company has 20 days to appeal disputes.
Speaker Change: Now, caseworkers respond more efficiently using our automation capabilities. First, Appian AI classifies and ingests payer disputes. Then, Appian RPA bots retrieve data for the user from various systems about the medical incident.
Speaker Change: with Appian our customer expects to handle disputes faster, increasing revenue by tens of millions of dollars annually.
Matthew Calkins: Appian is a leading process automation platform. The completeness of our platform is appreciated by users and recognized by analysts. Analysts call us leaders in enterprise local application development, business workflow automation, digital process automation, and process orchestration.
Speaker Change: Appian is a leading process automation platform. The completeness of our platform is appreciated by users and recognized by analysts.
Speaker Change: Analysts call us leaders in enterprise low-code application development, business workflow automation, digital process automation, and process orchestration.
Matthew Calkins: In Q2, Appian was named a leader in the Gartner Magic Quadrant for process mining platforms. For the first time, we were included because of Appian Process HQ, which we just released in April. Process HQ is a real-time actionable process mining, tracking the health of processes and using AI to recommend improvements. A top medical insurance provider manages claim disputes and payouts on Appian. This quarter, it analyzed the process with Process HQ, because it wanted to be more efficient. The company discovered members were submitting tens of thousands of duplicate claims. Now, it can work to optimize the process, eliminate unnecessary submissions, and save millions of hours annually.
Matthew W. Calkins: This quarter, it analyzed the process with Process HQ because it wanted to be more efficient. We look forward to appealing this week's decision and are hopeful that the state's highest court, the Virginia Supreme Court, will reinstate in full the jury's verdict, including its award of over $2 billion against Pegasystems for willfully and maliciously misappropriating Appian's trade secrets. That unanimous finding by the jury was not disturbed by this week's decision, and Pegasystems did not even attempt to contest its violation of the Virginia Computer Crimes Act on appeal.
Speaker Change: A top medical insurance provider manages claim disputes and payouts on Appian. This quarter it analyzed the process with Process HQ because it wanted to be more efficient.
Matthew Calkins: Earlier this week, the Court of Appeals of Virginia, the state's intermediate appellate court, rendered an opinion on our trade secrets case against Pegasystems. We look forward to appealing this week's decision and are hopeful that the state's highest court, the Virginia Supreme Court, will reinstate in full the jury's verdict, including its award of over $2 billion against Pegasystems for willfully and maliciously misappropriating Appian's trade secrets. Nothing in this week's opinion changes the fact that Pegasystems was found to have committed computer fraud in violation of the Virginia Computer Crimes Act. That unanimous finding by the jury was not disturbed by this week's decision, and Pegasystems did not even attempt to contest its violation of the Virginia Computer Crimes Act on appeal.
Speaker Change: Earlier this week, the Court of Appeals of Virginia, the state's intermediate appellate court, rendered an opinion on our trade secrets case against Pegasystems.
Speaker Change: We look forward to appealing this week's decision and are hopeful that the state's highest court, the Virginia Supreme Court, will reinstate in full the jury's verdict, including its award of over two billion dollars
Speaker Change: Nothing in this week's opinion changes the fact that Pegasystems was found to have committed computer fraud in violation of the Virginia Computer Crimes Act.
Speaker Change: That unanimous finding by the jury was not disturbed by this week's decision, and Pegasystems did not even attempt to contest its violation of the Virginia Computer Crimes Act on appeal.
Matthew Calkins: For Appian's full perspective on this sorted affair, I refer you to a special page on our website, Appian.com-flash-pega.
Matthew W. Calkins: For Appian's full perspective on this sordid affair, I refer you to a special page on our website, appian.com slash pega. Now I'll hand the call over to Mark for a deeper discussion of the financials. Mark.
Speaker Change: For Appian's full perspective on this sordid affair, I refer you to a special page on our website, appian.com slash pega.
Matthew Calkins: I'm optimistic about Appian's future. We deliver our customers a great product and a great experience. Appian's commitment to efficient growth will allow us to continue innovating while delivering value to our stakeholders.
Speaker Change: We deliver our customers a great product and a great experience.
Speaker Change: Appian's commitment to efficient growth will allow us to continue innovating while delivering value to our stakeholders.
Jack Andrews: Now, I'll hand the call over to Mark for a deeper discussion of the financials.
Mark Matheos: Mark? Thanks, Matt, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. I'll review the financial highlights for the quarter, and then we'll provide guidance for the third quarter in full year 2024. Our key metrics of cloud revenue, total revenue, and adjusted EBITDA all came in above the high end of our guidance ranges. Cloud subscription revenue was 80.4 million, an increase of 19% year over year. Our cloud subscription growth renewal rate remained stable at 99%, up slightly from 98% a year ago, and consistent with the prior quarter. Our cloud subscription revenue retention rate was 118% as of June 30, 2024, compared to 115% a year ago, and 120% in the prior quarter.
Speaker Change: Now I'll hand the call over to Mark for a deeper discussion of the financials. Mark.
Mark: Thanks Matt, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. I'll review the financial highlights for the quarter, and then we'll provide guidance for the third quarter and full year 2024. Our key metrics of cloud revenue, total revenue, and adjusted EBITDA all came in above the high end of our guidance ranges.
Mark Matheos: Our key metrics of cloud revenue, total revenue, and adjusted EBITDA all came in above the high end of our guidance ranges. Approximately 82% of our total net new software bookings in the quarter were for the cloud, compared to 84% in the prior year's second quarter. Professional services revenue was $33.5 million, down 1% year over year.
Speaker Change: Cloud subscription revenue was $88.4 million, an increase of 19% year-over-year. Our cloud subscription gross renewal rate remained stable at 99%, up slightly from 98% a year ago and consistent with the prior quarter.
Speaker Change: Our cloud subscription revenue retention rate was 118% as of June 30, 2024, compared to 115% a year ago and 120% in the prior quarter. We continue to target a cloud subscription revenue retention rate of 110 to 120% on a quarterly basis.
Mark Matheos: We continue to target a cloud subscription revenue retention rate of 110 to 120% on a poorly basis. Approximately 82% of our total net new software bookings in the quarter was for the cloud, compared to 84% in a prior year second quarter. Total subscription's revenue was 113 million, an increase of 20% year over year. Professional services revenue was 33.5 million, down 1% year over year. As we stated previously, professional services revenue can fluctuate quarter to quarter due to the timing of large projects. We leverage our professional services to enable partners and drive customer success. Over the long term, we expect professional services revenue to continue to decline as a percentage of total revenue.
Speaker Change: Approximately 82% of our total net new software bookings in the quarter was for the cloud, compared to 84% in the prior year's second quarter.
Speaker Change: Total subscriptions revenue was $113 million, an increase of 20% year-over-year.
Speaker Change: Professional services revenue was $33.5 million, down 1% year-over-year.
Mark Matheos: As we stated previously, professional services revenue can fluctuate quarter to quarter due to the timing of large projects. Total non-GAAP expenses were $123.2 million, up 3% from $119.7 million in the year of the period. Turning to our balance sheet, as of June 30, 2024, cash, cash equivalents, and investments were $149.1 million. For the second quarter, cash used by operating activities was $17.6 million versus cash used by operating activities of $11.9 million for the same period last year. The increase in cash usage was driven primarily by the timing of facility and vendor payments.
Speaker Change: As we stated previously, professional services revenue can fluctuate quarter to quarter due to the timing of large projects. We leverage our professional services to enable partners and drive customer success. Over the long term, we expect professional services revenue to continue to decline as a percentage of total revenue.
Mark Matheos: Total revenue was 146.5 million, an increase of 15% year over year. Subscription revenue represented 77% of total revenue, compared to 73% in the year's up period, and 79% in the prior quarter. We continue to see global demand for our platform, with our international operations contributing 38% of total revenue, consistent with the year's up period. 4 and a change movements provided a modest revenue headwind of slightly less than 1% this quarter. Turning to profitability metrics, non-GAAP first margin was 75% compared to 73% in a year-ago period and 76% in the prior quarter. Subscriptions non-GAAP first profit margin was 89%, consistent with the year-ago period and 90% in the prior quarter.
Speaker Change: Total revenue was $146.5 million, an increase of 15% year-over-year.
Speaker Change: Subscription revenue represented 77% of total revenue, compared to 73% in the year-ago period, and 79% in the prior quarter. We continue to see global demand for our platform, with our international operations contributing 38% of total revenue, consistent with the year-ago period.
Speaker Change: Foreign Exchange Movements provided a modest revenue headwind of slightly less than 1% this quarter.
Speaker Change: Turning to profitability metrics, non-GAAP gross margin was 75%, compared to 73% in the year-ago period and 76% in the prior quarter. Subscriptions non-GAAP gross profit margin was 89%, consistent with the year-ago period and 90% in the prior quarter.
Mark Matheos: Professional services non-GAAP first margin was 30% compared to 28% in a year-ago period and up from 25% in the prior quarter. Our goal is to enable our customers to achieve positive business outcomes and increase adoption of our technology platform. To help accomplish this goal, we continue to invest in non-buildable areas of our services organization. As stated previously, we expect professional services non-GAAP first margin to decline to low 20% range in 2024 and beyond. Total non-GAAP expenses were 123.2 million, up 3% from 119.7 million in the year-ago period. Adjusted EBITDA loss was 10.5 million for the quarter, well ahead of our second quarter guidance of a loss between 17 and 13 million, and significantly improved from an adjusted EBITDA loss of 24.7 million in the year-ago period.
Speaker Change: Professional services non-GAAP gross margin was 30% compared to 28% in the year-ago period, and up from 25% in the prior quarter.
Speaker Change: Our goal is to enable our customers to achieve positive business outcomes and increase adoption of our technology platform.
Speaker Change: As stated previously, we expect professional services non-GAAP gross margin to decline to the low 20% range in 2024 and beyond.
Speaker Change: Total non-GAAP expenses were $123.2 million, up 3% from $119.7 million in the year of the period.
Speaker Change: Adjusted EBITDA loss was $10.5 million for the quarter, well ahead of our second quarter guidance of a loss between $17 and $13 million, and significantly improved from an adjusted EBITDA loss of $24.7 million in the year-ago period.
Mark Matheos: In the second quarter, we had approximately 200,000 of foreign exchange losses compared to 1.2 million in foreign exchange gains in the same period a year ago. As a reminder, we do not forecast movements in FS rates; therefore, FS movements are not considered in our guidance. Non-GAAP net loss was 19.1 million or 26 cents for share compared to a non-GAAP net loss of 28.5 million or 39 cents per diluted share for the second quarter of 2023. Turning to our balance sheet, as of June 30, 2024, cash, cash equivalents, and investments were 149.1 million. This provides us with significant liquidity to operate and invest in our business.
Speaker Change: In the second quarter, we had approximately 200,000 of foreign exchange losses, compared to 1.2 million in foreign exchange gains in the same period a year ago.
Speaker Change: As a reminder, we do not forecast movements in FS rates. Therefore, FS movements are not considered in our guidance.
Mark Matheos: For the second quarter, cash used by operating activities was 17.6 million, versus cash used by operating activities of 11.9 million for the same period last year. The increase in cash usage was driven primarily by the timing of facilities and vendor payments. Finally, total deferred revenue was 222.9 million as of the second quarter of 2024, an increase of 14% from the year-ago period. As a reminder, while the majority of our customers are invoiced on an annual upfront basis, we also have some large customers that are billed quarterly or monthly. Constantly, we continue to believe cloud subscription revenue was a better indicator of our business momentum than deferred revenue, buildings, or remaining performance obligations.
Speaker Change: This provides us with significant liquidity to operate and invest in our business.
Speaker Change: Finally, total deferred revenue was $222.9 million as of the second quarter of 2024, an increase of 14% from the year of the period. As a reminder, while the majority of our customers are invoiced on an annual upfront basis, we also have some large customers that are billed quarterly or monthly.
Mark Matheos: As a reminder, while the majority of our customers are invoiced on an annual upfront basis, we also have some large customers that are billed quarterly or monthly. The true scale of Appian's business is represented by subscription revenue, which includes support and all software subscription revenue, regardless of whether the customer deploys to the Appian cloud, their private cloud, or on premises. The non-gap net loss per share is expected to range between $0.10 and $0.06.
Mark Matheos: These latter metrics can fluctuate based on the timing of invoicing, seasonality of on-prem license revenue, and the duration of customer contracts. The true scale of Appian's business is represented by subscriptions revenue, which includes support in all software subscription revenue, regardless of whether the customer deploys to the Appian Cloud, their private cloud, or on-prem. As Matt mentioned, we have made adjustments to our expenses to align with our strategy. These include a reduction in personnel and some consolidation of facilities. Looking ahead to the second half of 2024, we believe these actions will accelerate our path to profitability.
Speaker Change: These latter metrics can fluctuate based on the timing of invoicing, seasonality of on-prem license revenue, and the duration of customer contracts.
Speaker Change: The true scale of Appian's business is represented by subscriptions revenue, which includes support and all software subscription revenue, regardless of whether the customer deploys to the Appian cloud, their private cloud, or on-prem.
Speaker Change: Looking ahead to the second half of 2024, we believe these actions will accelerate our path to profitability. We previously forecasted a just-in-even-a-break-even in 2025. Now we expect to achieve this milestone for the full year 2024.
Mark Matheos: We previously forecasted adjusted even a break even in 2025. Now we expect to achieve this milestone for the full year 2024.
Mark Matheos: Let's turn to the specifics of our guidance. For the third quarter of 2024, cost prescription revenue is expected to be between 89 and 91 million, representing year-over-year growth between 15 and 18 percent. Total revenue is expected to be between 149 and 153 million, representing year-of-year growth between 900 percent. Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter of 2024 is expected to range between break-even and positive $3 million. On-gap net loss per share is expected to range between 10 cents to 6 cents. This assumes 72.4 million diluted weighted average comment shares outstanding. For the full year 2024, we're slightly reducing our cloud revenue and total revenue guidance.
Speaker Change: Let's turn to the specifics of our guidance. For the third quarter of 2024, class prescription revenue is expected to be between $89 and $91 million, representing year-over-year growth between 15 and 18 percent.
Speaker Change: Total revenue is expected to be between $149 million and $153 million, representing year-over-year growth between 9 and 12 percent.
Speaker Change: Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter of 2024 is expected to range between break-even and positive $3 million.
Speaker Change: Non-gap net loss per share is expected to range between $0.10 to $0.06.
Speaker Change: For the full year 2024, we're slightly reducing our cloud revenue and total revenue guidance.
Mark Matheos: We believe it is prudent to factor in some potential uncertainty into our near-term outlook, given the personnel changes we discussed earlier. At the same time, we're significantly improving our full-year adjusted EBITDA guidance. Cost subscription revenue is now expected to be between 358 to 360 million, representing year-of-year growth of 18 percent. Total revenue is now expected to be between 610 to 615 million, representing year-of-year growth between 12 and 13 percent. We now expect adjusted EBITDA to range from negative $3 million to positive $3 million. This is an improvement of 20 million dollars from the midpoint of our previous guidance range.
Speaker Change: We believe it is prudent to factor in some potential uncertainty into our near-term outlook given the personnel changes we discussed earlier. At the same time, we're significantly improving our full-year adjusted EBITDA guidance.
Mark Matheos: At the same time, we're significantly improving our full-year adjusted EBITDA. Todd Subscription Revenue is now expected to be between $358 and $360 million, representing year-over-year growth of 18%. Total revenue is now expected to be between $610 and $615 million, representing year-over-year growth between 12 and 13%. We are also updating our full-year 2024 non-gap net loss per share to range between 61 cents and 52 cents. Second, we expect on-prem license revenue in Q3 will increase sequentially and track to seasonality that is consistent with prior periods. Third, total other income and interest expenses are expected to be between $4 and $5 million in Q3 and between $17 and $18 million for the full year 2024.
Mark Matheos: We are also updating our full year 2024 non-GAAP net loss per share to range between 61 cents to 52 cents. This assumes 72.6 million diluted weighted average common shares outstanding.
Speaker Change: We are also updating our full year 2024 non-GAAP net loss per share to range between $0.61 to $0.52. This assumes 72.6 million diluted weighted average common shares outstanding.
Mark Matheos: Our guidance assumes the following. First, as previously disclosed, the variability in our services revenue can be swung by one or two large transactions. We expect professional services revenue to be flat to down sequentially in Q3. Second, we expect on-prem license revenue in Q3 will increase sequentially and track the seasonality that is consistent with prior periods. Third, total other income and interest expenses are expected to be between 4 and 5 million in Q3 and between 17 and 18 million for the full year 2024. Fourth, capital expenditures are expected to be between 1 and 2 million in Q3 and between 5 and 7 million for the full year 2024.
Speaker Change: Our guidance assumes the following. First, as previously disclosed, the variability in our services revenue can be swung by one or two large transactions.
Speaker Change: We expect professional services revenue to be flat to down sequentially in Q3. Second, we expect on-prem license revenue in Q3 will increase sequentially and track to seasonality that is consistent with prior periods.
Speaker Change: Fourth, capital expenditures are expected to be between $1 and $2 million in Q3, and between $5 and $7 million for the full year 2024.
Mark Matheos: And fifth, our guidance assumes FS rates as of July 29, 2024.
Mark Matheos: In closing, we're pleased about our commitment to accelerating adjusted EBITDA break-even on a non-GAAP basis from 2025 to this year. We'll continue to focus on growth while driving greater efficiencies in the business. We believe that the unique capabilities of our platform position us well to capture the large market opportunity ahead of us.
Speaker Change: In closing, we're pleased about our commitment to accelerating adjusted EBITDA break-even on a non-gap basis from 2025 to this year. We'll continue to focus on growth while driving greater efficiencies in the business.
Speaker Change: We believe that the unique capabilities of our platform position us well to capture the large market opportunity ahead of us. And with that, we will open up the line for questions. Operator?
Operator: And with that, we will open up the line for questions, Operator.
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Sanjit Singh: Our first question comes from Sanji Singh with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open. Thank you for taking the questions. Matt, I wanted to start off with the decision to accelerate the path to profitability. You know, I think a few quarters ago, you sounded, I would characterize it as still in, in pretty firm investment mode.
Unknown Attendee: Thank you for taking the questions. Matt, I wanted to start off with the decision to accelerate the path to profitability. I think a few quarters ago, you said, I would characterize it as still in pretty firm investment mode. So I'd just like to get your thoughts behind the decision to accelerate the path to profitability. And then, Mark, in terms of the outlook, the outlook does... Unknown Attendee, Srinivas Anantha, Kevin Kumar, Steven Enders, Mark Matheos, Malcolm Ross, Michael Beckley, Jacob Roberge, Raimo Lenschow, Malcolm Ross, Michael Beckley, Theo Schwabacher, Reagan Redman, Oscar Silva, Appian Corp, Malcolm Ross, Michael Beckley, Jacob Roberge, Raimo Lenschow, Malcolm Ross, Michael Beckley, Theo Schwa
Speaker Change: Thank you for taking the questions. Matt, I wanted to start off with
Matt Calkins: Now, I think a few quarters ago you sounded, I would characterize it as still in pretty firm investment mode. So I'd just like to get your thoughts behind the decision to accelerate the path to profitability. And then Mark, in terms of the outlook, the outlook does...
Sanjit Singh: So just let's get your thoughts behind the decision to accelerate the path to profitability. And then mark in terms of the outlook. in the second half, as you said with the Club's association of revenue guidance. Is that just driven by like sort of derisking any potential sales execution issues, or did you see a weaker pipeline? Are you seeing a weaker pipeline, or weaker close rates in terms of just the demand environment? Thanks.
Mark: In the second half, as you said, with the Cloud Subscription Revenue Guidance.
Speaker Change: Is that just driven by like...
Speaker Change: sort of derisking any potential sales execution issues? Or, did you see a weaker pipeline? Are you seeing a weaker pipeline or weaker close rates in terms of just the demand environment? Thanks.
Matthew Calkins: Hey, with regards to that second question, Sanjit, I'd like to jump in even though you directed that to Mark. I insisted on this adjustment. I feel strong. We made a move this quarter, a cost-productive move that could have temporary disruptive effects. I say could have not will have, but could. And I wanted to get out ahead of that. I felt it would be prudent if we were just to adjust for that possibility. As for the overall decision, we saw an opportunity; basically, in applying scrutiny to the cost structure of the organization, we saw an opportunity.
Speaker Change: With regards to that second question, Sanjeev, I'd like to jump in even though you directed that to Mark. I insisted on this adjustment. I feel strongly about it.
Speaker Change: We made a move this quarter, a cost-reductive move that could have temporary disruptive effects. I say could have, not will have, but could. And I wanted to get out ahead of that. I felt it would be prudent if we were just to adjust for that possibility.
Sanjeev: We saw an opportunity, basically. In applying scrutiny to the cost structure of the organization, we saw an opportunity. We didn't feel like we had to make this move, but we saw that we could make this move. And in light of the possibility, and in light of the fact that we felt that we could...
Matthew Calkins: We didn't feel like we had to make this move, but we saw that we could make this move. And in light of the possibility, and in light of the fact that we felt that we could grow through it, and that any effects, if any, would be short term. We decided to make that move. But, as I mentioned in the remarks, we are focused on growth. This is not a pivot away from growth.
Speaker Change: But we, as I mentioned in the remarks, we are focused on growth. This is not a pivot away from growth.
Unknown Executive: This is not a pivot away from.
Sanjit Singh: Understood. That's a super helpful context.
Sanjit Singh: And what will follow up if I made that?
Sanjit Singh: As it relates to the decision by the court this week, it's to tie the sort of insurance policy that you had written that sort of underwrote the verdict.
Speaker Change: Understood. That's super helpful context. And one follow-up if I may, Matt. As it relates to the decision by the court this week,
Speaker Change: If we could tie the sort of insurance policy that you had written on that sort of...
Sanjit Singh: I think it would remind me if I think it was like $60 million to guarantee at least $500 million of the original $2 billion. How does that tie in?
Sanjit Singh: How does those two, how does the decision this week impact the insurance policy that you guys signed up for last year?
Matthew Calkins: Yeah, with regards to that insurance policy, I want to be; it's very important to us that we get the details and convey them to you exactly correctly. And so, instead of answering the question verbally, I just wanted to direct you to the document because it's so important to be precisely correct. Yeah, it was it was filed in 18 September of 2023. So you can easily find the go to the SEC website and go to September of 2023, RAK, this five scenarios and the policy move forward.
Speaker Change: Yeah, with regards to that insurance policy, I want to be, it's very important to us that we get the details and convey them to you exactly correctly.
Unknown Executive: All right. And so instead of answering the question verbally, I just want to direct you to the document, because it's so important to precisely correct.
Unknown Executive: Do you? Yeah, it was.
Speaker Change: It was filed as an AK in September of 2023, so you can easily find, go to the SEC website and go to September of 2023, RAK, the five scenarios and the policy report.
Sanjit Singh: All right.
Sanjit Singh: Thank you very much.
Operator: Thank you. One moment for our next question.
Speaker Change: Thank you. One moment for our next question.
Raimo Lenschow: Our next question comes from RIMO Lenchau with Bartolome. Your line is now open. Perfect. Thank you. Matt, I'm going back to the guidance again. So I get the prudence and, you know, well done on that on the guidance because there's likely to be kind of implications. But is this purely just to kind of clarify it one more time? Is it purely on the action that you saw, or is there also other things in the economy that you kind of want to make sure that the second half is coverage. And then I'm asking because it's like quite a few other companies, like Salesforce, et cetera, that kind of talked about slightly weaker economy.
Speaker Change: on the action that you saw? Or is there also other things in the economy that you kind of want to make sure that the second half is covered? And then I'm asking because like there's quite a few other companies like Salesforce, etc, that kind of talked about a slightly weaker economy.
Raimo Lenschow: It's just a clear fine question here that I want to know. Thanks, Raimo.
Matthew Calkins: I am and we are not reacting to macro effects, but with this move, it is not about macro. Okay. Thank you. And then you discuss the move as an opportunity. Can you talk a little bit about the puts and takes your like, you know, like historically, you've been more a growth focused management team. You probably got just kind of push back from other sides that you maybe should think about more profitability. Like, you know, being a profitable company quicker, what does it mean for you as a management team and as a company. Thank you. Yeah, let me let me say that the primary thing we're doing here is transferring energy from places that it is not as productive to places where it's more productive.
Unknown Executive: But with this move, it is not about macro.
Unknown Executive: Okay, perfect. Okay, thank you. And you discussed the move as an opportunity. Can you talk a little bit about the puts and takes here, like, you know, like, historically, you've been more of a growth-focused management team. You probably got kind of pushback from other sides that maybe we should think about more profitability, like, you know, being a profitable company quicker. What does it mean for you as a management team as a company? Thank you.
Speaker Change: But with this move, it is not about macro.
Speaker Change: Management Team. You probably got kind of...
Matthew Calkins: And to do that under a commitment to profitability means to remove some investments in order that we can grow others. So I believe that profitability is just good for management generally. Operating under a structure is just a positive thing, how Appians run most of its lifetime and how I prefer to run. So that's just a bonus that we can stretch for, and we saw the opportunities to stretch for it here. But this is also a moment of reallocation, of reassessment of where energy belongs in this enterprise. And I think that that's the most effective. I talk about some things here that we're increasing on right to talk about solutions in public sector and large deals, and there's others as well.
Speaker Change: Some investments in order that we can grow others.
Speaker Change: I believe that profitability is just good for management generally. Operating under a stricture is just a positive thing. It's how Appian's run most of its lifetime. It's how I prefer to run, so that's just a bonus that we can stretch for, and we saw the opportunity to stretch for it here.
Speaker Change: but
Speaker Change: But this is also a moment of reallocation, of reassessment, of where energy belongs in this enterprise. And I think that that's the most effective. I talk about some things here that we're increasing on, right? I talk about solutions and public sector and large deals, and there's others as well. There's places where energy is flowing into, and that's, of course, enabled by the fact that we're willing to flow energy both in and out.
Matthew Calkins: There's places where energy is flowing into, and that's of course enabled by the fact that we're willing to flow energy both in and out. Make sense. Thank you.
Unknown Attendee: Make sense? Thank you. Congratulations.
Speaker Change: Make sense. Thank you. Congrats.
Steve Enders: And our next question comes from Steve Enders with City or Lines now open. Okay, great. Thanks for taking the questions here.
Operator: Thank you, and our next question comes from
Speaker Change: Thank you. And our next question comes from...
Unknown Attendee: Okay, great. Thanks for taking the questions here.
Speaker Change: Steve Enders with Citi. Your line is now open.
Steve Enders: I guess maybe just when I get a better understanding for, you know, why is now the right time to go through this, you know, this initiative on the go to market side and I guess what's leading to this decision being made this quarter versus, you know, versus down the road or I guess even even doing this at all. That's a great question. And of course, we plan to do it next year, as you know, as we've been forecasting for years now. We've said that the next year is going to be our year. But we've had an ongoing scrutiny process across the organization for a couple of years; markets, big credit for that.
Steve Enders: Okay, great. Thanks for taking the questions here.
Steve Enders: I guess maybe just want to get a better understanding for, you know, why is now the right time to
Steve Enders: go through this initiative on the go-to-market side and I guess what's leading to this decision being made this quarter versus down the road or I guess even doing this at all.
Matthew W. Calkins: That's a great question and, of course, we plan to do it next year. As you know, we've been forecasting for years now. We said that the next year was going to be our year across the organization for a couple years. Mark gets big credit for that. He's been right at the forefront. I just felt like, why wouldn't we act on it right away? We want to make some strategic moves, and this is a natural complement to them.
Mark: But we've had an ongoing scrutiny process across the organization for a couple of years. Mark gets big credit for that. He's been right at the forefront. And
Matthew Calkins: He's been right at the forefront, and it has revealed some truths about the organization. And you bring some of these truths into focus, and I just felt like why wouldn't we act on it right away? We want to make some strategic moves. This is a natural complement to them. Yeah, that's it. We just saw clearly the opportunity. Okay, all right, that's helpful.
Mark: And it has revealed some truths.
Mark: about the organization, and he brings some of these truths into focus.
Speaker Change: I just felt like why wouldn't we act on it right away? We want to make some strategic moves. This is a natural complement to them.
Unknown Executive: These may be pitching years a little bit just on the success with Appian AI and seeing that double this quarter.
Speaker Change: I guess maybe switching gears a little bit, just on the success with Appian AI and seeing that double this quarter.
Matthew Calkins: I used to maybe provide a little bit more clarity on kind of like what's resonating in the value proposition, you know, for Appian specifically in the market and is there kind of any underlying functionality that's helping. Yeah, well, we're definitely rolling out new AI functionality all the time, and we're also encouraging its usage, and we're seeding the market with a little bit of free AI usage to tempt them into buying our advanced tier. A little bit of background for you on how that works. We priced AI at the advanced tier of license pricing. Which is to say that customers will have to pay more to be full AI users, and we feel that's a pretty important incentive that would give them a reason to prefer advanced licenses over standard licenses.
Steve Enders: resonating in the value proposition.
Speaker Change: you know, for Appian specifically in the market and is there kind of any underlying functionality that's helping contribute to the adoption here?
Speaker Change: Yeah. Well, we're definitely rolling out new AI functionality all the time. And we're also encouraging its usage.
Speaker Change: which is to say that customers will have to pay more.
Matthew Calkins: But of course, we also want them to understand how powerful it is. So we've been offering a small amount of AI usage, a gratis, and then if they want to use it at scale, then they have to pay. Okay, so I think that between the new features and the emphasis on the advanced tier and the startup allotment, you have, in combination, the rationale for why that say usage jump. Okay, perfect.
Speaker Change: I think that between the new features and the emphasis on the advanced tier and the startup allotment, you have in combination the rationale for why that usage jumped.
Unknown Executive: Thanks for the question.
Derek Wood: Thank you, and our next question comes from Derek Wood with TD County. Your line is now open. Great. Thanks for taking my questions. I'm hoping to get a little bit more color around the restructuring efforts you're taking. Where are you looking to take costs out? How much head count reduction is expected and what kind of restructuring charges? Should we be modeling?
Speaker Change: Okay, perfect. Thanks for taking the questions.
Operator: And our next question comes from Derek Wood with TD Cowan. Your line is now open.
Speaker Change: Thank you.
Speaker Change: And our next question comes from Derek Wood with TD Cowen. Your line is now open.
Derek Wood: I'm hoping to get a little bit more color around the restructuring efforts you're taking. Where are you looking to take costs out? How much headcount reduction is expected? And what kind of restructuring charges should we be modeling?
Derek Wood: Great. Thanks for taking my questions.
Matthew Calkins: Shall I start on that? We're not going to talk about head count. We will I will say that we are analyzing all of our go-to-market expenditures according to the amount of net new ACV that they drive or that we can infer that they drive. We want to be efficient in the way we spend our go-to-market dollar. And so that analysis revealed that we had a mixed bag of efficiency and that there were places that we wanted to shift energy towards.
Speaker Change: I will say that we are analyzing all of our go-to-market expenditures according to the amount of net new ACV that they drive, or that we can infer that they drive.
Mark Matheos: Do you want to say anything about a charge?
Mark Matheos: Yes, so we actually recorded this charge in our second quarter, and you can see it in the thank you that we filed later today.
Mark Matheos: But we did have in our disclosure that we reduced the workforce by approximately 150 employees and took the charge of around $5 million. Okay, and I mean that is it.
Matthew Calkins: I'm here and you talk about efforts with large enterprises.
Matthew Calkins: It sounds like perhaps you're shifting some focus away from the mid market and prioritizing up market. I don't know. Can you give us a sense of what that mix of business has been historically and if, you know, if that's the case, how that may change kind of mix of bookings between cloud and on premise going forward. Yeah. Alright.
Speaker Change: I don't know, can you give us a sense of what that mix of business has been historically and if, you know, if that's the case, how that may change kind of mix of bookings between cloud and on-premise going forward?
Matthew Calkins: I think that Appian was spending too much of its energy on small transactions. I'm not against small transactions. I think there's a place for them, but they have to be performed quickly, and there has to be upside so that they lead to the kind of transaction where Appian's unique advantages shine and differentiate us most clearly. And so I want to do transactions where we have a path to different intuitive functionality and an advantaged value proposition. And when those deals are smaller, then I want to execute that deal rapidly. So it's just a changing emphasis. We're not abandoning any markets, but we want to have a different posture in relation to specific markets.
Speaker Change: I think that Appian was spending too much of its energy on small transactions. I'm not against small transactions. I think there's a place for them, but they have to be performed quickly.
Speaker Change: to Differentiative Functionality and an Advantaged Value Proposition.
Matthew Calkins: And I'd like to see more of our aggregate energy directed at more differentiated opportunities.
Unknown Executive: Understood. Thanks for taking my questions.
Kevin Kumar: And our next question comes from Kevin Kumar with Golden Sex. Your line is now open. Hi, thanks for taking my questions.
Speaker Change: Kevin Kumar with Goldman Sachs, your line is now open.
Unknown Attendee: Hi, thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to ask about international growth. I know the revenue metrics can be a little noisy, but anything you can share in terms of overall international ARR and maybe how that's growing relative to domestic and maybe what's beyond the strength that you're seeing there, any, you know, differences in the types of sectors where you're gaining traction internationally, that would be helpful.
Kevin Kumar: I want to bounce about international growth. I know the revenue metrics can be a little noisy, but anything you can share in terms of overall international error and maybe how that's growing relative to domestic and maybe what's beyond the strength that you're seeing there. Any differences in the types of sectors where you gain traction internationally that would be helpful. Yeah, in this regard, not much has changed this quarter or, for that matter, this year. I see the ratios between North America and Europe and Asia about the same as they were six months ago, for example.
Kevin Kumar: Hi, thanks for taking my questions. I wanted to ask about international growth. I know the revenue metrics can be a little noisy, but anything you can share in terms of overall international ARR, and maybe how that's growing relative to domestic?
Speaker Change: Thank you.
Matthew Calkins: So I don't believe there's anything notable there. Got it.
Kevin Kumar: And then maybe Matt, you know, you talked about GAM and kind of strengthen government. So it's a curious, maybe, you know, some of your other vertical solutions, especially like financials and insurance.
Speaker Change: Got it. And then maybe.
Matthew Calkins: Can you talk about maybe kind of the trends you're seeing there and the traction, the rate of adoption, and just how you think about kind of the broader opportunity for some of those solutions and other verticals. Thank you. I feel great about solutions in other verticals. GAM course doubling year over year. I've long loved the solutions opportunity for Appian. I want to invest more in it. It's part of what we're doing right now is freeing up energy so that we can invest more in it. It's not exclusively going to be public sector. It's going to be insurance pharmaceutical.
Speaker Change: It's part of what we're doing right now is freeing up energy so that we can invest more in it. It's not exclusively going to be public sector. It's going to be insurance, pharmaceutical. We have great places to put attention. By the way, we don't have to write all those solutions ourselves. We can have motivated partners who write it. We market it together. We sell it together.
Matthew Calkins: We have great places to put attention. By the way, we don't have to write all those solutions ourselves. We get motivated partners who write it. We mark it together. We sell it together. This is this is a major opportunity for us. This is the future and now. and we're making those investments in all seriousness now. Got it, that's a couple.
Speaker Change: And we're making those investments in all seriousness now.
Unknown Executive: Thanks, Ben.
Operator: Thank you.
Speaker Change: Got it. That's helpful. Thanks, man.
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Jacob Roberge: Our next question comes from Jake Roberich with William Blair. Your line is open. Hey, thanks for taking the questions.
Operator: Our next question comes from Jake Roberge with William Blair. Your line is open.
Speaker Change: Our next question comes from Jake Roberge with William Blair. Your line is open.
Jacob Roberge: Just from a timing perspective, how long do you think the go-to-market changes will take to focus on those customers farther up market and the key industries like financial services and government? And then I know you've also had a few leadership changes recently for that organization.
Jake Roberge: Hey, thanks for taking the questions. Just from a timing perspective, how long do you think the go-to-market changes will take to focus on those customers further up market and the key industries like financial services and government? And then I know you've also had a few leadership changes recently for that organization. Do you anticipate hiring a new CRO, or Matt, will you continue to lead that organization moving forward?
Matthew Calkins: Do you anticipate hiring a new CRO or MAT?
Matthew Calkins: Will you continue to lead that organization moving forward? Yeah, well, I'm staying really close. Let's put it that way. I'm staying very, very close to the sales organization. But we're also empowering Mike Mayer, who many of you met at our Investment Day. He's taking more control. And as a team, we're working great. And we will, as you say, you all know how long it's going to take to make changes. Well, we need an agile organization. We need an organization that makes changes quickly. And so staying close to it is a good way to be sure that we have that.
Jacob Roberge: Yeah.
Matt Calkins: Yeah, well, I'm staying really close. Let's put it that way. I'm staying very, very close.
Speaker Change: to the sales organization. But we're also empowering Mike Mayer, who many of you met at our investment day. He's taking more control and as a team we're working great and we will
Speaker Change: As you say you want you want to know how long it's going to take to make changes well
Matthew Calkins: And I hesitate to say anything concrete to give about exactly when, because you know it's a continuum. You know it's a change over time. But we're intensively attending to these changes in Q3, and surely will also in Q4. Okay, helpful.
Speaker Change: Cheers.
Speaker Change: I hesitate to say anything concrete about exactly when, because you know it's a continuum, you know it's a change over time, but we're intensively attending these changes in Q3 and surely will also in Q4.
Matthew Calkins: And then great to hear that Appian AI usage doubled in the quarter. You talked about seeding the market with some free usage to get people to adopt that advanced tier over time.
Speaker Change: Okay, helpful. And then great to hear that Appian AI usage doubled in the quarter. You talked about seeding the market with some free usage to get people to adopt that advanced tier over time, but how should we think about the path to get that doubling of usage into true revenue monetization?
Matthew Calkins: But how should we think about the path to get that doubling of usage into true revenue monetization? Yeah. Well, I think we have a much better revenue monetization or feature monetization story this year. Because we created the up tier pricing. And now, when we release new functionality, we can place it in the up tier and ask customers to pay more to get it. So we're much more direct about the way we translate feature advantage into revenue. And that's the play also with AI, just establish the value. We've got a unique advantage in AI. We have a private AI.
Matthew W. Calkins: I think we have a much better revenue monetization or feature monetization. And so we will continue to chart a unique course, a course that contrasts with that of our competitors and to explain to customers that not all vendors are going to make the same demands and constrain their enterprises and the privacy of their information in the same way. I think that for a lot of people, it's a foregone conclusion that big tech owns the customer's data.
Speaker Change: Yeah, well...
Speaker Change: I think we have a much better revenue monetization or feature monetization.
Speaker Change: And that's the play also with AI, just...
Speaker Change: Establish the value. We've got a unique advantage, you know, in AI. We have a private...
Matthew Calkins: We are the champions of preserving the sanctity of an organization's private data. Not training someone else's AI algorithm with it, not disclosing it, not consolidating it in someone else's database. We are champions for the customers' existing data, preserving it and existing architecture, allowing it to be the way it is. In this way, we're the anti-big tech. And I believe that this market has room for an anti-big tech for a pure play champion, an emphasis on champion because we're championing the priorities and the preferences of the customer against the power of the vendor. So there's room for us.
Speaker Change: We are the champions of preserving the sanctity of an organization's private data, not training someone else's AI algorithm with it, not disclosing it, not consolidating it in someone else's database.
Speaker Change: We are champions for the customers.
Matthew Calkins: We are excited about offering this functionality that gives our users a better option, and so we will continue to chart a unique course, a course that contrasts with that of our competitors, and to explain to customers that not all vendors are going to make the same demands and constrain their enterprise and the privacy of their information in the same way. I think that for a lot of people it's a foregone conclusion that big tech owns the customer's data. I feel like valuations have reflected that assumption, but customers don't like that idea, and when I mention it to them, they bristle. They say, "Look, that's still our data; we don't want to share it, we don't want to train on it, we don't want to consolidate it somewhere else; that's ours, that's our primary asset."
Speaker Change: A course that contrasts with that of our competitors and to explain to customers that not all vendors are going to make the same demands and constrain their enterprise and the privacy of their information in the same way.
Matthew W. Calkins: Evaluations have reflected that assumption, but customers don't like that idea, and when I mention it to them, they bristle. They say, look, that's still our data. We don't want to share it. We don't want to train on it. We don't want to consolidate it somewhere else. That's ours. That's our primary asset.
Matthew Calkins: There's a lot of energy in favor of preserving data and architecture. I know I'm getting a little bit off the center of the question here, but I think it's an important thing to mention that this constitutes an angle for us, constitutes an advantage. Our business play is different, and our requests to a customer are different, and that will continue to answer in our favor when the customer worries about their privacy and the disruption their cause on their enterprise. We're going to continue to have a very divergent offering in these regards.
Speaker Change: in favor of preserving.
Speaker Change: I know I'm getting a little bit off the center of the question here, but I think it's an important thing to mention that this constitutes an angle for us, it constitutes an advantage. Our business play is different and our requests to a customer are different.
Speaker Change: and and that will continue to to answer in our favor when the customer worries about their privacy and the disruption their cause on their enterprise we're going to continue to have a very divergent offering in these regards
Unknown Executive: Very helpful, thanks for taking the questions.
Speaker Change: Very helpful. Thanks for taking the questions.
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