Q1 2025 Lions Gate Entertainment Corp Earnings Call
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I would now like to turn the conference over to Nilay Shah, Head of Investor Relations.
Nilay Shah: Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us for the Lions Gate Studios Corp. and Lions Gate Entertainment Corp. Fiscal 2025 First Quarter Conference Call. We'll begin with opening remarks from our CEO, Jon Feltheimer, followed by remarks from our CFO, Jimmy Barge. After their remarks, we'll open the call to questions. Also joining us on the call today are Vice Chairman Michael Burns, COO, Brian Goldsmith, Chairman of the TV Group, Kevin Beggs, Chairman of the Motion Picture Group, Adam Fogelson, and President of Worldwide TV and Digital Distribution, Jim Packer. And from STARS, we have President and CEO, Jeffrey Hirsch, CFO, Scott McDonald, and President of Domestic Networks, Allison Hoffman.
Nilay Shah: Thank you for joining us for the Lionsgate Studios Corp and Lionsgate Entertainment Corp, fiscal 2025, first quarter conference call.
Nilay Shah: Thank you for joining us for the Lionsgate Studios Corp and Lionsgate Entertainment Corp, fiscal 2025, first quarter conference call.
Nilay Shah: Please go ahead. Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us for the Lions Gate Studios Corp and Lions Gate Entertainment Corp fiscal 2025 first quarter conference call.
Nilay Shah: We'll begin with opening remarks from our CEO, Jon Feltheimer, followed by remarks from our CFO, Jimmy Barge. After their remarks, we'll open the call for questions.
Nilay Shah: We'll begin with opening remarks from our CEO, Jon Feltheimer, followed by remarks from our CFO, Jimmy Barge. After their remarks, we'll open the call for questions. Also joining us on the call today are Vice Chairman Michael Burns, COO, Brian Goldsmith, Chairman of the TV Group, Kevin Beggs, Chairman of the Motion Picture Group, Adam Fogelson, and President of Worldwide TV and Digital Distribution, Jim Packer. And from stars, we have President and CEO, Jeffrey Hirsch, CFO, Scott McDonald, and President of Domestic Networks, Alison Hoffman.
Speaker Change: We'll begin with opening remarks from our CEO , Jon Feltheimer, followed by remarks from our CFO , Jimmy Barge.
Nilay Shah: Also joining us on the call today are Vice Chairman Michael Burns, COO, Brian Goldsmith, Chairman of the TV Group, Kevin Beggs, Chairman of the Motion Picture Group, Adam Fogelson, and President of Worldwide TV and Digital Distribution, Jim Packer.
Speaker Change: After their remarks will open the call for questions. Also joining us on the call today are Vice Chairman Michael Burns.
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Speaker Change: Chairman of the TV Group, Kevin Beggs, Chairman of the Motion Picture Group, Adam Fogelson, and President of Worldwide TV and Digital Distribution, Jim Packer.
Nilay Shah: And from Stars, we have President and CEO, Jeffrey Hirsch, CFO, Scott McDonald, and President of Domestic Networks, Alison Hoffman.
Nilay Shah: The matters discussed on the call also include forward-looking statements, including those regarding the performance of future fiscal years. Such statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially and adversely from those described in the forward-looking statements as a result of various factors. This includes the risk factors set forth in our public filings for Lions Gate Studios Corp. and for Lions Gate Entertainment Corp. The companies undertake no obligation to publicly release the result of any revisions to these forward-looking statements that may be made to reflect any future events or circumstances. I'll now turn the call over to Jon.
Speaker Change: And from STARS, we have President and CEO Jeffrey Hirsch, CFO Scott McDonald, and President of Domestic Networks Allison Hoffman. The matters discussed on the call also include four looking statements, including those regarding the performance of future fiscal years.
Nilay Shah: The matters discussed on the call also include four looking statements, including those regarding the performance of future fiscal years. Such statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially and adversely from those described in the forward-looking statements as a result of various factors. This includes the risk factor set forth in our public filings for Lionsgate Studios Corp. and for Lionsgate Entertainment Corp. The companies undertake no obligation to publicly release the result of any revisions to these four looking statements that may be made to reflect any future events or circumstances.
Nilay Shah: The matters discussed on the call also include four looking statements, including those regarding the performance of future fiscal years. Such statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially and adversely from those described in the four looking statements as a result of various factors. This includes the risk factors set forth in our public filings for Lionsgate Studios Corp and for Lionsgate Entertainment Corp.
Such statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties.
Actual results could differ materially and adversely from those described in the forward-looking statements as a result of various factors.
Jon: This includes the risk factors set forth in our public filings for Lyons seeds, studio's corp, and for Lyonsgate entertainment corp. The companies undertake no obligation to publicly release the result of any revisions to these forward-looking statements that may be made to reflect any future events or circumstances. I'm now turning the call over to Jon.
Nilay Shah: The companies undertake no obligation to publicly release the result of any revisions to these four looking statements that may be made to reflect any future events or circumstances.
Jon Feltheimer: I'll now turn the call over to Jon. Thank you, Nilay, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us.
Jon Feltheimer: I'll now turn the call over to Jon. Thank you, Nilay, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us.
Jon Feltheimer: Thank you, Nilay, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us. In an operating environment of unprecedented industry disruption that touches every part of our business, we delivered a solid quarter in spite of soft results from our television segment, primarily due to some residual impact from the strikes, as well as a heavily backloaded year. Our Motion Picture Group exceeded financial expectations, our library turned in another strong performance, and STARS achieved domestic OTT revenue and subscriber growth over the prior year quarter.
Jon Feltheimer: In an operating environment of unprecedented industry disruption that touches every part of our business, we delivered a solid quarter in spite of soft results from our television segment, primarily due to some residual impact from the strikes, as well as a heavily backloaded year. Our motion picture group exceeded financial expectations, our library turned in another strong performance, and stars achieved domestic OTT revenue and subscriber growth over the prior year quarter. There are things in our environment over which we have little control: the impact of disruption on our buyers and distributors, market volatility, and the long tail of the strikes and the pandemic.
Jon Feltheimer: In an operating environment of unprecedented industry disruption that touches every part of our business, we delivered a solid quarter in spite of soft results from our television segment, primarily due to some residual impact from the strikes, as well as a heavily backloaded year. Our Motion Picture Group exceeded financial expectations. Our library turned in another strong performance, and stars achieved domestic OTT revenue and subscriber growth over the price. There are things in our environment over which we have little control, the impact of disruption on our buyers and distributors, market volatility, and the long tail of the strikes and the pandemic.
Jon: Thank you, Nilay, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us.
Jon: In an operating environment of unprecedented industry disruption that touches every part of our business, we delivered a solid quarter in spite of soft results from our television segment, primarily due to some residual impact from the strikes, as well as a heavily backloaded year.
Jon: Our Motion Picture Group exceeded financial expectations, our library turned in another strong performance, and STARS achieved domestic OTT revenue and subscriber growth over the prior year quarter.
Jon Feltheimer: There are things in our environment over which we have little control, the impact of disruption on our buyers and distributors, market volatility, and the long tail of strikes and the pandemic. But there are also a number of things we can control, and today I want to talk about four in particular.
Nilay Shah: There are things in our environment over which we have little control, the impact of disruption on our buyers and distributors, market volatility, and the long tail of the strikes and the pandemic.
Jon Feltheimer: But there are also a number of things we can control, and today I want to talk about four in particular. First, executing our strategic plan. The separation of our studio business and stars will allow our two companies to pursue the strategic agendas that are right for them in the current environment, scale their respective businesses, and focus investor attention on what makes them special and unique within their own ecosystems. Over the past several months, we have generated strong momentum towards full separation, raising over $300 million in gross proceeds from equity financing, completing a bond exchange agreement to strengthen the respective stars and studio balance sheets, and closing a $340 million IP back facility that is primarily collateralized by the E1 library.
Jon Feltheimer: But there are also a number of things we can control, and today I want to talk about four in particular. First, executing our strategic plan. The separation of our studio business and stars will allow our two companies to pursue the strategic agendas that are right for them in the current environment, scale their respective businesses and focus investor intention on what makes them special and unique within their own ecosystems. Over the past several months, we've generated strong momentum towards full separation, raising over $300 million in gross proceeds from equity financing, completing a bond exchange agreement to strengthen the respective stars and studio balance sheets, and closing a $340 million IP back facility that is primarily collateralized by the E1 library.
Nilay Shah: But there are also a number of things we can control, and today I want to talk about four in particular.
Jon Feltheimer: First, executing our strategic plan. The separation of our studio business and STARS will allow our two companies to pursue the strategic agendas that are right for them in the current environment, scale their respective businesses, and focus investor intent on what makes them special and unique within their own ecosystems. Over the past several months, we've generated strong momentum towards full separation, raising over $300 million in gross proceeds from equity financing, completing a bond exchange agreement to strengthen the respective STARS and Studio balance sheets, and closing a $340 million IP-backed facility that is primarily collateralized by the E1 Library.
Nilay Shah: First, executing our strategic plan.
Speaker Change: The separation of our studio business and stars will allow our two companies to pursue the strategic agendas that are right for them in the current environment. Scale their respective businesses and focus investor intention on what makes them special and unique within their own ecosystems.
Over the past several months, we've generated strong momentum towards full separation.
Raising over $300 million in gross proceeds from equity financing Completing a bond exchange agreement to strengthen the respective STARS and Studio balance sheets And closing a $340 million dollar IP-backed facility that is primarily collateralized by the E1 library
Jon Feltheimer: In addition, as we said on our last earnings call, a special committee of the board is formed to evaluate and recommend to the full board whether a collapse of the company's dual-class share structure would be in the best interest of our shareholders, and if so, advise on the appropriate structure for putting it into a... Effect Special Committee concluded that a single class of stock is in our shareholders' best interest and recommended collapsing our two classes into one, with a 12% exchange premium for the A shareholders.
Jon Feltheimer: In addition, as we said on our last earnings call, a special committee of the board has been formed to evaluate and recommend to the full board whether a collapse of the company's dual class share structure would be in the best interest of our shareholders, and if so, advise on the appropriate structure for putting it into effect. The Special Committee concluded that a single class of stock is in our shareholders' best interest and recommended collapsing our two classes into one with a 12 percent exchange premium for the A shareholder.
Jon Feltheimer: In addition, as we said on our last earnings call, a special committee of the board is formed to evaluate and recommend to the full board whether a collapse of the company's dual-class share structure would be in the best interest of our shareholders. And if so, advise on the appropriate structure for putting it into a... Effect Special Committee concluded that a single class of stock is in our shareholders' best interest and recommended collapsing our two classes into one with a 12% exchange premium for the A shareholders.
Speaker Change: In addition, as we said on our last earnings call, a special committee of the board is formed to evaluate and recommend to the full board, whether a collapse of the company's dual-class share structure would be in the best interest of our shareholders, and if so, advise on the appropriate structure for putting it into effect.
Special Committee concluded that a single class of stock is in our shareholders' best interest and recommended collapsing our two classes into one with a 12% exchange premium for the A shareholders.
Jon Feltheimer: This board approved proposal, which will be included in the proxy statement that will be filed in connection with the separation and voted on by the shareholders of both classes of stock, is another critical milestone in achieving full separation by calendar year end. Second, subject to the timing of normal regulatory approvals.
Jon Feltheimer: This board approved proposal, which will be included in the proxy statement that will be filed in connection with the separation and voted on by the shareholders of both classes of stock is another critical milestone in achieving full separation by calendar year end. And subject to the timing of normal regulatory approvals.
Jon Feltheimer: This board-approved proposal, which will be included in the proxy statement that will be filed in connection with the separation and voted on by the shareholders of both classes of stock, is another critical milestone in achieving full separation by calendar year end, subject to the timing of normal regulatory approval. Second, creating great content and adapting our portfolio of world-class IP and franchises. We continue to put together theatrical release slates, driven by three to four tentpoles a year, beginning in Fiscal 2016. In the quarter, we announced that we will adapt Suzanne Collins' next Hunger Games book, Sunrise on the Reaping, into a major motion picture for release on November 20th, 2026.
Speaker Change: This board approved proposal, which will be included in the proxy statement that will be filed in connection with the separation, and voted on by the shareholders of both classes of stock,
Nilay Shah: is another critical milestone in achieving full separation by calendar year end, subject to the time we have normal regulatory approvals.
Jon Feltheimer: Second, creating great content and adapting our portfolio of world-class IPN franchises. We continue to put together theatrical release rates driven by three to four 10 polls a year beginning in fiscal 26. In the quarter, we announce that we will adapt Suzanne Collins' next Hunger Games book, Sunrise on the Reaping, into a major motion picture for release on November 20, 2000. We are wrapping principal photography on Graham King and Antoine Fuqua's Michael Jackson biopic, putting the finishing touches on the John Wick spin-off Ballerina, starting production on Ruben Fleischer's new installment of the Now You See Me franchise and Francis Lawrence's adaptation of Stephen King's The Long Walk, and readying Chad Stahelski's Highlander for a production start early next year.
Jon Feltheimer: Second, creating great content and adapting our portfolio of world class IP and franchises. We continue to put together theatrical release lights driven by three to four 10 polls a year beginning in fiscal 26. In the quarter, we announced that we will adapt Suzanne Collins next hunger games book sunrise on the reaping into a major motion picture for release on November 20th, 2026. We are wrapping principal photography on Graham King and Antoine Fuqua's Michael Jackson biopic, putting the finishing touches on the John Wick spin-off ballerina, starting production on Ruben Fleischer's new installment of the Now You See Me franchise and Francis Lawrence's adaptation of Stephen King's The Long Walk and readying Chad Stahelski's Highlander for a production start early next year.
Speaker Change: Second, creating great content and adapting our portfolio of world-class IP and franchises.
Speaker Change: We continue to put together theatrical release slates driven by 3 to 4 tentpoles a year beginning in fiscal 26.
Speaker Change: In the quarter, we announced that we will adapt Suzanne Collins' next Hunger Games book, Sunrise on the Reaping, into a major motion picture for release on November 20th, 2026.
Jon Feltheimer: We're wrapping principal photography on Graham King and Antoine Fuqua's Michael Jackson biopic, putting the finishing touches on the John Wick spinoff, Ballerina, and starting production on Reuben Fleischer's new installment of the Now You See Me franchise and Frances Lawrence's adaptation of Stephen King's The Long Walk. And readying Chad Stahelski's Highlander for a production start early next year. On television, in a year with 70% of scripted delivery scheduled for the third and fourth quarters.
Speaker Change: We're wrapping principal photography on Graham King and Antoine Fuqua's Michael Jackson biopic, putting the finishing touches on the John Wick spin-off, Ballerina.
Speaker Change: Starting production on Reuben Fleischer's new installment of the Now You See Me franchise and Frances Lawrence's adaptation of Stephen King's The Long Walk. And readying Chad Stahelski's Highlander for a production start early next year.
Jon Feltheimer: In television, in a year with 70% of scripted delivery scheduled for the third and fourth quarters, the good news is that nearly all of these series are already ordered in production and on schedule. These shows include signature big shows like Spartacus, House of Asher, and The Hunting Wives for Stars, Seth Rogan's the studio for Apple TV Plus, and the seventh season of The Rookie for ABC. And new businesses picked up significantly, with a total of 15 new series ordered and current series renewed to network pilots picked up, and more than 30 projects sold into development.
Jon Feltheimer: In television, in a year with 70% of scripted delivery scheduled for the third and fourth quarters, the good news is that nearly all of these series are already ordered in production and on schedule. These shows include signature big shows like Spartacus House of Asher and the hunting wives for stars Seth Rogan's the studio for Apple TV plus and the seventh season of the rookie for ABC. And new businesses picked up significantly with a total of 15 new series ordered and current series renewed to network pilots picked up and more than 30 projects sold into development.
Speaker Change: In television, in a year with 70% of scripted delivery scheduled for the third and fourth quarters,
Jon Feltheimer: The good news is that nearly all of these series are already ordered, in production, and on schedule. These include signature big shows like Spartacus, House of Asher, and The Hunting Wives for Starz, Seth Rogen's The Studio for Apple TV+, and the seventh season of The Rookie for ABC. And new business has picked up significantly, with a total of 15 new series ordered and current series renewed, two network pilots picked up, and more than 30 projects sold into development. At Starz, our content performed well in the quarter, with Ghost Season 4 opening to over 6.5 million multi-platform viewers in its premiere week and achieving strong in-season growth.
Speaker Change: The good news is that nearly all of these series are already ordered, in production, and on schedule.
These shows include signature big shows like Spartacus, House of Asher, and The Hunting Wives for stars.
Speaker Change: Seth Rogen's The Studio for Apple TV+.
Speaker Change: and the seventh season of The Rookie for ABC.
Speaker Change: And new businesses picked up significantly, with a total of 15 new series ordered and current series renewed.
Speaker Change: Two network pilots picked up and more than 30 projects sold into development. At STARS, our content performed well in the quarter with Ghost Season 4 opening to over 6.5 million multi-platform viewers in its premiere week and achieving strong in-season growth.
Jon Feltheimer: At stars, our content performed well in the quarter with Ghost Season 4 opening to over 6.5 million multi-platform viewers in its premiere week and achieving strong in-season growth. With raising Canaan and Outlander engaging both of our audience cohorts in the back half of the year and with a rate increase rolling out in Q2, we expect to resume sequential quarter North American OTT subscriber growth in Q3. Looking ahead to our fiscal 26th slate, we'll continue to execute on a focused content strategy in which we are complementing our returning 10-pole series with high-profile new series like the hunting wives, Spartacus, the Outlander prequel, Blood of My Blood, an array of female focused third-party acquisitions and a strong slate of studio features.
Jon Feltheimer: At Stars, our content performed well in the quarter with Ghost Season 4 opening to over 6.5 million multi-platform viewers in its premiere week and achieving strong in-season growth. With raising Canaan and Outlander engaging both of our audience cohorts in the back half of the year and with a rate increase rolling out in Q2, we expect to resume sequential quarter North American OTT subscriber growth in Q3. Looking ahead to our fiscal 26th slate, we'll continue to execute on a focus content strategy in which we are complementing our returning 10-pole series with high-profile new series like The Hunting Wives, Spartacus, the Outlander prequel Blood of My Blood, an array of female focus, third-party acquisitions, and a strong slate of studio features.
Jon Feltheimer: With Raising Canaan and Outlander engaging both of our audience cohorts in the back half of the year, and with a rate increase rolling out in Q2, we expect to resume sequential quarter North American OTT subscriber growth in Q3. Looking ahead to our fiscal 26th slate, we'll continue to execute on a focused content strategy in which we are complementing our returning 10-pulse series with high-profile new series like The Hunting Wives, Spartacus, the Outlander prequel Blood of My Blood, an array of female-focused third-party acquisitions, and a strong slate of studio features.
Speaker Change: with Raising Canaan and Outlander engaging both of our audience cohorts in the back half of the year.
Speaker Change: and with a rate increase rolling out in Q2, we expect to resume sequential quarter North American OTT subscriber growth in Q3.
Speaker Change: Looking ahead to our fiscal 26th slate.
Speaker Change: We'll continue to execute on a focused content strategy in which we are complementing our returning 10-pulse series with high-profile new series like the Hunting Wives,
Speaker Change: Spartacus, the Outlander prequel Blood of My Blood, an array of female-focused third-party acquisitions, and a strong slate of studio features.
Jon Feltheimer: Third, creating business models that generate new areas of growth by rolling out a suite of Lionsgate fast channels, including Movie Spear, the first FAST channel to be rated by Nielsen, and 50 Cent Action in partnership with Curtis, 50 Cent Jackson. We're controlling and monetizing opportunistic windows that, together with our AVOD business, generate over $100 million in annual revenue. Avenue. Stars, two strong core demos make it a bundling partner of choice in its wholesale and direct-to-consumer businesses.
Jon Feltheimer: Third, creating business models that generate new areas of growth by rolling out a suite of Lionsgate fast channels including movie spear, the first fast channel to be rated by Nielsen and 50 cent action in partnership with Curtis, 50 cent Jackson. We're controlling and monetizing opportunistic windows that together with our avod business generate over a hundred million dollars in annual revenue. Avenue. Stars two strong core demos make it a bundling partner of choice in its wholesale and direct to consumer businesses.
Jon Feltheimer: Creating business models that generate new areas of growth. For example, by rolling out a suite of Lions Gate fast channels, including Moviesphere, the first fast channel to be rated by Nielsen, and 50 Cent Action in partnership with Curtis 50 Cent Jackson.
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Speaker Change: Creating business models that generate new areas of growth. By rolling out a suite of Lionsgate fast channels, including movie sphere, the first fast channel to be rated by Nilson, and 50 cent action in partnership with Curtis 50 cent Jackson.
Jon Feltheimer: We're controlling and monetizing opportunistic windows that, together with our AVOD business, generate over $100 million in annual revenue. Stars, two strong core demos, make it a bundling partner of choice in its wholesale and direct-to-consumer business. This afternoon, I'm pleased to announce that Starz and Britbox, the BBC Studios-owned streaming service, are launching a new bundle next quarter to offer their respective apps directly through Starz.com. By leveraging its advanced tech stack, Starz is enabling the creation of a compelling and complementary offering that pairs Starz hits like Outlander and The Serpent Queen with Britbox's unmatched collection of original series, such as Vera, Shetland, and Blue Lights, alongside iconic library classics like Downton Abbey and Killing Eve.
Speaker Change: We're controlling and monetizing opportunistic windows that, together with our AVOD business, generate over $100 million in annual revenue. STAR's two strong core demos make it a bundling partner of choice in its wholesale and direct-to-consumer businesses.
Jon Feltheimer: This afternoon, I'm pleased to announce that Starz and BritBox, the BBC Studios-owned streaming service, are launching a new bundle next quarter to offer their respective apps directly through Starz.com. By leveraging its advanced tech stack, stars in enabling the creation of a compelling and complimentary offering that pair stars hits like Outlander and the Serpent Queen, with Britbox's unmatched collection of original series, such as Vera, Shetland and Blue Lights, alongside iconic library classics like Downton Abbey and Killing Eve. At a time when our traditional buyers are being disciplined around their budgets, our television group is pivoting to shows with efficient business models and production for new buyers like the Rainmaker for USA, two new series for Hallmark, and an array of international co-productions, increasing our universe of potential buyers by as much as 50%.
Jon Feltheimer: This afternoon, I'm pleased to announce that stars and Britbox, the BBC Studios owned streaming service, are launching a new bundle next quarter to offer their respective apps directly through stars.com. By leveraging its advanced tech stack, stars in enabling the creation of a compelling and complimentary offering that pair stars hits like Outlander and the Serpent Queen, with Britbox's unmatched collection of original series, such as Vera, Shetland, and Blue Lights, alongside iconic library classics like Downton Abbey and Killing Eve.
This afternoon, I'm pleased to announce that Starz and Britbox, the BBC Studios-owned streaming service, are launching a new bundle next quarter to offer their respective apps directly through Starz.com. By leveraging its advanced tech stack,
Speaker Change: Starz is enabling the creation of a compelling and complimentary offering that pairs Starz hits like Outlander and The Serpent Queen with Britbox's unmatched collection of original series and
Such as Vera, Shetland, and Blue Lights, alongside iconic library classics like Downton Abbey and Killing Eve. At a time when our traditional buyers are being disciplined around their budgets.
Jon Feltheimer: At a time when traditional buyers are being disciplined around their budgets, our television group is pivoting to shows with efficient business models and production for new buyers, like The Rainmaker for USA, two new series for Hallmark, and an array of international co-productions, increasing our universe of potential buyers by as much as 50%. We announced during the quarter that former CAA and Bad Robot executive Brian Weinstein had been named co-CEO of our leading talent management and production company, 3Arts Entertainment, and strategic advisor to the office of the CEO at Lions Gate.
Jon Feltheimer: At a time when our traditional buyers are being disciplined around their budgets, our television group is pivoting to shows with efficient business models and production for new buyers like the Rainmaker for USA, two new series for hallmark, and an array of international co-productions, increasing our universe of potential buyers by as much as 50%.
Speaker Change: Our television group is pivoting to shows with efficient business models and production for new buyers, like The Rainmaker for USA.
Speaker Change: Two new series for Hallmark.
and an array of international co-productions, increasing our universe of potential buyers by as much as 50%.
Jon Feltheimer: We announced during the quarter that former CAA and Bad Robot executive Brian Weinstein had been named co-CEO of our leading talent management and production company, Three Arts Entertainment, and Strategic Advisor to the Office of the CEO at Lionsgate. He joins co-CEO Michael Rotenberg and the other Three Arts partners in executing a focused and accelerated growth strategy to extend Three Arts into new areas of representation. Under our new Motion Picture Group leadership, our global products and experiences group is expanding its portfolio of properties and accelerating the monetization of ancillary and derivative opportunities for our franchise properties.
Jon Feltheimer: We announced during the quarter that former CAA and bad robot executive Brian Weinstein had been named co-CEO of our leading talent management and production company, Three Arts Entertainment and Strategic Advisor to the Office of the CEO at Lionsgate. He joins co-CEO Michael Rotenberg and the other Three Arts partners in executing a focused and accelerated growth strategy to extend three arts into new areas of representation. Under our new Motion Picture Group leadership, our global products and experiences group is expanding its portfolio of properties and accelerating the monetization of ancillary and derivative opportunities for our franchise properties.
Speaker Change: We announced during the quarter that former CAA and Bad Robot executive Bryan Weinstein had been named co-CEO of our leading talent management and production company, 3Arts Entertainment, and strategic advisor to the office of the CEO at Lions Gate.
Jon Feltheimer: He joins co-CEO Michael Rotenberg and the other 3Arts partners in executing a focused and accelerated growth strategy to extend 3Arts into new areas of representation. Under our new Motion Picture Group leadership, our Global Products and Experiences Group is expanding its portfolio of properties and accelerating the monetization of ancillary and derivative opportunities for our franchise properties, with 13 Broadway shows in the pipeline, including adaptations of some of our most important IP. Exciting progress towards the launch of our John Wick AAA game, a new John Wick experience opening soon in Las Vegas, and a number of high-profile licensing initiatives around the world.
Speaker Change: He joins co-CEO Michael Rotenberg and the other 3Arts partners in executing a focused and accelerated growth strategy to extend 3Arts into new areas of representation.
Speaker Change: Under our new Motion Picture Group leadership, our Global Products and Experiences Group is expanding its portfolio of properties and accelerating the monetization of ancillary and derivative opportunities for our franchise properties.
Jon Feltheimer: With 13 Broadway shows in the pipeline, including adaptations of some of our most important IP, exciting progress towards launch of our John Wick Triple A game, a new John Wick experience opening soon in Las Vegas, and a number of high profile licensing initiatives in the works. We expect to begin seeing a meaningful uptick in revenue later this year.
Jon Feltheimer: With 13 Broadway shows in the pipeline, including adaptations of some of our most important IP, exciting progress towards launch of our John Wick triple A game. A new John Wick experience opening soon in Las Vegas, and a number of high-profile licensing initiatives in the works.
Speaker Change: With 13 Broadway shows in the pipeline, including adaptations of some of our most important IP, exciting progress towards the launch of our John Wick AAA game, a new John Wick experience opening soon in Las Vegas, and a number of high-profile licensing initiatives in the works,
Jon Feltheimer: We expect to begin seeing a meaningful uptick in revenue later this year.
Jon Feltheimer: We expect to begin seeing a meaningful uptick in revenue later this year, and finally, Cutting Cod. Lions Gate is already one of the leanest companies at scale in the media business, but here are just a few of the things we're doing to become even leaner. In television, we're reducing the number of combined Lions Gate and E1 producer deals by 70%, with $30 million in projected annual savings.
Speaker Change: We expect to begin seeing a meaningful uptick in revenue later this year.
Jon Feltheimer: And finally, cutting costs. Lionsgate is already one of the leanest companies at scale in the media business, but here are just a few of the things we're doing to become even leaner. In television, we're reducing the number of combined Lionsgate and E1 producer deals by 70% with $30 million in projected annual savings. As we complete the integration of E1, we're reducing GNA and remain on track for our operational and financial targets. Within our Motion Picture Group, we have flattened the organizational structure and reallocated overhead from non-core activities to support the ramp of our film output with a laser focus on marketing and distribution expenses.
Jon Feltheimer: And finally, cutting costs. Lionsgate is already one of the leanest companies at scale in the media business. But here are just a few of the things we're doing to become even leaner. In television, we're reducing the number of combined Lionsgate and E1 producer deals by 70% with $30 million in projected annual savings. As we complete the integration of E1, we're reducing GNA and remain on track for our operational and financial targets.
Speaker Change: And finally, Cutting Costs.
Speaker Change: Lions Gate is already one of the leanest companies at scale in the media business.
Speaker Change: But here are just a few of the things we're doing to become even leaner. In television, we're reducing the number of combined Lions Gate and E1 producer deals by 70%, with $30 million in projected annual savings.
Jon Feltheimer: As we complete the integration of E1, we're reducing GNA and remaining on track for our operational and financial targets. Within our Motion Picture Group, we have flattened the organizational structure and reallocated overhead from non-core activities to support the ramp of our film output, with a laser focus on marketing and distribution expenses. In our real estate operations, we've consolidated offices and expect to reduce lease expenses by 30% on a pro forma basis over a three-year period.
Speaker Change: As we complete the integration of E1, we're reducing GNA and remain on track for our operational and financial targets.
Jon Feltheimer: Within our Motion Picture Group, we have flattened the organizational structure and reallocated overhead from non-core activities to support the ramp of our film output with a laser focus on marketing and distribution expenses. In our real estate operations, we've consolidated offices and expect to reduce lease expenses by 30% on a pro form of basis over a three year period. And we're currently analyzing AI applications to our business in everything for more efficient library utilization and production and marketing benefits to broader GNA efficiencies in order to continue to take cost out of the business.
Speaker Change: With an Emotion Picture Group, we have flattened the organizational structure and reallocated overhead from non-coractivities to support the ramp of our film output, with a laser focus on marketing and distribution expenses.
Jon Feltheimer: In our real estate operations, we've consolidated offices and expect to reduce lease expenses by 30% on a pro forma basis over a three-year period. And we're currently analyzing AI applications to our business in everything for more efficient library utilization and production and marketing benefits to broader GNA efficiencies in order to continue to take cost out of the business.
Speaker Change: In our real estate operations, we've consolidated offices and expect to reduce lease expenses by 30% on a pro forma basis over a three year period.
Jon Feltheimer: And we're currently analyzing AI applications to our business, everything from more efficient library utilization and production and marketing benefits to broader G&A efficiencies in order to continue to take costs out of the business. In closing, there are many reasons why I remain bullish about the long-term prospects of our business. The domestic box office is rebounding just as we prepare one of our strongest film slates for fiscal 26. Meanwhile, our television group continues to lean into its portfolio of companies to generate content for old and new buyers alike.
Speaker Change: And we're currently analyzing AI applications to our business in everything from more efficient library utilization and production and marketing benefits to broader G&A efficiencies in order to continue to take costs out of the business.
Jon Feltheimer: Business. In closing, there are many reasons why I remain bullish about the long-term prospects of our business. The domestic box office is rebounding just as we prepare one of our strongest film slates for fiscal 26. Our television group continues to lean into its portfolio of companies to generate content for old and new buyers alike. Stars has grown its North American OTT subscribers and revenue from the prior year quarter. Increased ARPU, decreased churn, and remained profitable as it continues its transition to a predominantly digital future. Three Arts is a talent management and production leader with a strong growth trajectory ahead of it.
Jon Feltheimer: Business.
Jon Feltheimer: In closing, there are many reasons why I remain bullish about the long-term prospects of our business. The domestic box office is rebounding, just as we prepare one of our strongest film slates for fiscal 26. Our television group continues to lean into its portfolio of companies to generate content for old and new buyers alike. Stars has grown its North American OTT subscribers and revenue from the prior year quarter. Increased ARPU, decreased churn, and remained profitable as it continues its transition to a predominantly digital future.
Speaker Change: In closing, there are many reasons why I remain bullish about the long-term prospects of our business.
Speaker Change: The Domestic Box Office is rebounding just as we prepare one of our strongest film slates for Fiscal 26.
Speaker Change: Our television group continues to lean into its portfolio of companies to generate content for old and new buyers alike. Starz has grown its North American OTT subscribers and revenue from the prior year quarter.
Jon Feltheimer: Starz has grown its North American OTT subscribers and revenue from the prior year quarter, increased ARPU, decreased churn, and remained profitable as it continues its transition to a predominantly digital future. Starz is a talent management and production leader, and we're continuing to put together all of the pieces for a value-defining separation of the studio and stars by the end of the calendar year. I would note that, in terms of our financial projections for the year, we have some ground to make up after the first quarter, and our backloaded slates leave us less margin for error than usual, amidst this disruptive environment. The one thing you can be sure of is that we will continue to adapt, pivot, and innovate in order to meet our challenges and create value for our shareholders. Now I'll turn things over to Jimmy.
Speaker Change: increased ARPU, decreased churn, and remained profitable as it continues its transition to a predominantly digital future.
Jon Feltheimer: Three arts is a talent management and production leader with a strong growth trajectory ahead of it. And we are continuing to put together all of the pieces for a value-defining separation of the studio and stars by the end of the calendar year. I would note that in terms of our financial projections for the year, we have some ground to make up after the first quarter, and our back-loaded slates leave us less margin for error than usual. However, amidst this disruptive environment, the one thing you can be sure of is that we will continue to adapt, pivot, and innovate in order to meet our challenges and create value for our shareholders.
Speaker Change: Three Arts is a talent management and production leader with a strong growth trajectory ahead of it.
Jon Feltheimer: And we are continuing to put together all of the pieces for a value-defining separation of the studio and stars by the end of the calendar year. I would note that in terms of our financial projections for the year, we have some ground to make up after the first quarter, and our back-loaded slates leave us less margin for error than usual. However, amidst this disruptive environment, the one thing you can be sure of is that we will continue to adapt, pivot, and innovate in order to meet our challenges and create value for our shareholders.
Speaker Change: And we are continuing to put together all of the pieces for a value-defining separation of the studio and stars by the end of the calendar year.
Speaker Change: I would note that, in terms of our financial projections for the year, we have some ground to make up after the first quarter, and our backloaded slates leave us less margin for error than usual.
Speaker Change: However, amidst this disruptive environment...
Speaker Change: The one thing you can be sure of is that we will continue to adapt, pivot, and innovate in order to meet our challenges and create value for our shareholders.
Jimmy Barge: Now I'll turn things over to Jimmy. Thanks, John, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll briefly discuss our first quarter financial results and provide an update on the balance sheet. For the quarter, Lionsgate's consolidated revenue was $835 million, adjusted to EBITDA was $105 million, and operating income was $19 million. Revenue was down 8% while adjusted to EBITDA was up 22% year over year. Reported fully-diluted earnings per share was a loss of $0.25 per share, and fully-diluted adjusted earnings per share was a positive $0.90 per share. Net cash flows used in operating activities was $159 million, while use of adjusted free cash flow for the quarter was $89 million.
Jimmy Barge: Now I'll turn things over to Jimmy. Thanks, John, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll briefly discuss our first quarter financial results and provide an update on the balance sheet. For the quarter, Lionsgate's consolidated revenue was $835 million, adjusted to EBITI was $105 million, and operating income was $19 million. Revenue was down 8% while adjusted to EBITI was up 22% year over year. Reported fully-deluted earnings per share was a loss of $0.25 per share, and fully-deluted adjusted earnings per share was a positive $0.9 per share.
Jimmy Barge: Thanks, Jon, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll briefly discuss our first quarter financial results and provide an update on the balance sheet. For the quarter, Lions Gate's consolidated revenue was $835 million, adjusted OEBDA was $105 million, and operating income was $19 million. Revenue was down 8%, while adjusted OEBDI was up 22% year over year. Reported fully diluted earnings per share was a loss of $0.25 per share, and fully diluted adjusted earnings per share was a positive $0.09 per share. Net cash flows used in operating activities was $159 million, while use of adjusted free cash flow for the quarter was $89 million.
Speaker Change: Now I'll turn things over to Jimmy.
Jimmy: Thanks, Jon, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll briefly discuss our first quarter financial results and provide an update on the balance sheet.
Jimmy: For the quarter, Lions Gate's consolidated revenue was $835 million, adjusted OEBDA was $105 million, and operating income was $19 million.
Speaker Change: Revenue was down 8% while adjusted OEBDI was up 22% year-over-year.
Speaker Change: Reported fully diluted earnings per share was a loss of $0.25 per share. And fully diluted adjusted earnings per share was a positive $0.09 per share. Net cash flows used in operating activities was $159 million, while use of adjusted free cash flow for the quarter was $89 million.
Jimmy Barge: Net cash flows used in operating activities was $159 million, while use of adjusted free cash flow for the quarter was $89 million. Notwithstanding some of the strong industry headwinds affecting television, we are reiterating our previously announced fiscal 25 adjusted to EBITI outlook for the studio and stars. Starting with studio, we continue to forecast adjusted to EBITI, which we define as studio segment profit less corporate GNA to be $430 million. However, with a slower than anticipated post-rike recovery of our television business and inherent variability in our television releases over the remainder of the fiscal year, we recognize we have a larger task in front of us.
Jimmy Barge: Notwithstanding some of the strong industry headwinds affecting television, we are reiterating our previously announced fiscal 25 adjusted to EBITDA outlook for the studio and Stars. Starting with studio, we continue to forecast adjusted to EBITDA, which we define as studio segment profit less corporate GNA, to be $430 million. However, with a slower than anticipated post-strike recovery of our television business and inherent variability in our television releases over the remainder of the fiscal year, we recognize we have a larger task in front of us. As John noted in his prepared remarks, we are already proactively taking several steps to adapt to the changing environment, and we will continue to provide updates on our studio outlook as the year progresses.
Jimmy Barge: Notwithstanding some of the strong industry headwinds affecting television, we are reiterating our previously announced Fiscal 25 Adjusted OEBDI Outlook for the Studio and Star. Starting with the Studio, we continue to forecast adjusted OEBDA, which we define as Studio Segment Profit Less Corporate G&A, to be $430 million. However, with a slower than anticipated post-strike recovery of our television business and inherent variability in our television releases over the remainder of the fiscal year, we recognize we have a larger task in front of us. As Jon noted in his prepared remarks, we are already proactively taking several steps to adapt to the changing environment, and we will continue to provide updates on our studio outlook as the year progresses.
Speaker Change: Notwithstanding some of the strong industry headwinds affecting television, we are reiterating our previously announced Fiscal 25 Adjusted Web at Eye Outlook for the studio and stars.
Speaker Change: Starting with Studio, we continue to forecast adjusted OEBDA, which we define as Studio Segment Profit Less Corporate G&A, to be $430 million.
Speaker Change: However, with a slower-than-anticipated post-strike recovery of our television business and inherent variability in our television releases over the remainder of the fiscal year, we recognize we have a larger task in front of us.
Jimmy Barge: As John noted in his prepared remarks, we are already proactively taking several steps to adapt to the changing environment, and we will continue to provide updates on our studio outlook as the year progresses. Regarding stars outlook, we continue to anticipate that the North American business will generate 200 million plus of adjusted to EBITI in fiscal 2025. Now, let me briefly discuss the fiscal first quarter performance of our studio and media networks businesses compared to the previous year quarter. Starting with the studio business quarterly revenue declined 6% year over year to $588 million, while studio adjusted to EBITI declined 6% to 58 million.
Speaker Change: As Jon noted in his prepared remarks, we are already proactively taking several steps to adapt to the changing environment, and we will continue to provide updates on our studio outlook as the year progresses.
Jimmy Barge: Regarding stars outlook, we continue to anticipate that the North American business will generate 200 million plus of adjusted to EBITDA in fiscal 2025. Now, let me briefly discuss the fiscal first quarter performance of our studio and media networks businesses compared to the previous year quarter. Starting with the studio business, quarterly revenue declined 6% year over year to $588 million, while studio adjusted to EBITDA declined 6% to 58 million.
Jimmy Barge: Regarding STAR's outlook, we continue to anticipate that the North American business will generate $200 million-plus of adjusted WebBI in fiscal 2025. Now, let me briefly discuss the fiscal first quarter performance of our studio and media networks businesses compared to the previous year. Starting with the studio business, quarterly revenue declined 6% year-over-year to $588 million, while studio-adjusted oebida declined 6% to $58 million. Trailing 12-months library revenue of $882 million was largely in line with past year's Q1 trailing 12-months revenue as organic library strength and two-quarters of E1 library contribution largely offset the benefit of Schitt's Creek in last year Breaking down the studio business, let's start with motion pictures.
Jon: Regarding STAR's outlook, we continue to anticipate that the North American business will generate $200 million-plus of adjusted webidye in fiscal 2025.
Jimmy Barge: Motion picture revenue for the quarter was $347 million, while segment profit was $86 million. Revenue expectedly declined on a difficult comparison to last year's favorable theatrical release of John Wick 4, while segment profit was up 24% due to lower P&A spend and content amortization. Moving on to TV, quarterly television revenue of $241 million was up 10% year-over-year with contribution from E1's The Rookie Season 6 and A Gentleman in Moscow. However, segment profit of $11 million was down year-over-year due to the strike's lingering impact on both episodic deliveries in our scripted and unscripted businesses, as well as commissions in our talent management.
Speaker Change: Now, let me briefly discuss the fiscal first quarter performance of our Studio and Media Networks businesses compared to the previous year quarter.
Speaker Change: Starting with the studio business, quarterly revenue declined 6% year-over-year to $588 million, while studio-adjusted Oebida declined 6% to $58 million.
Jimmy Barge: $2 million. Trailing 12 months library revenue of $882 million was largely in line with the past year's Q1 trailing 12 months revenue as organic library strength and two quarters of E1 library contribution largely offset the benefit of Schitt's Creek in last year's number. Breaking down the studio business, let's start with motion pictures. Motion picture revenue for the quarter was $347 million, while segment profit was $86 million. Revenue expectantly declined on a difficult comparison to last year's favorable theatrical lease of John Wake 4, while segment profit was up 24 percent due to lower P&A spend and content amortization.
Jimmy Barge: $2 million. Trailing 12 months library revenue of $882 million was largely in line with the past year's Q1 trailing 12 months revenue as organic library strength and two quarters of E1 library contribution largely offset the benefit of Schitt's Creek in last year's number. Breaking down the studio business, let's start with motion pictures. Motion picture revenue for the quarter was $347 million, while segment profit was $86 million. Revenue expectedly declined on a difficult comparison to last year's favorable theatrical lease of John Wake 4, while segment profit was up 24% due to lower P&A spend and content amortization.
Speaker Change: Trailing 12-months library revenue of $882 million was largely in line with the past year's Q1 trailing 12-months revenue as organic library strength and two-quarters of E1 library contribution largely offset the benefit of Schitt's Creek in last year's number.
Speaker Change: Breaking down the studio business, let's start with motion pictures.
Speaker Change: Motion picture revenue for the quarter was $347 million, while segment profit was $86 million.
Speaker Change: Revenue expectedly declined on a difficult comparison to last year's favorable theatrical release of John Wick 4, while segment profit was up 24% due to lower P&A spend and content amortization.
Jimmy Barge: Moving on to TV, quarterly television revenue of $241 million was up 10 percent year over year, with contribution from E1's The Rookie season 6 and A Gentleman in Moscow. Segment profit of 11 million dollars was down year over year due to the strike's lingering impact on both episodic deliveries and our scripted and unscripted businesses, as well as commissions in our talent management business. Media networks quarterly revenue was $350 million, and segment profit was $58 million. Revenue was expectedly down year over year due to the exit from substantially all of our international markets, which was largely completed over the course of fiscal 2024.
Jimmy Barge: Moving on to TV, quarterly television revenue of $241 million was up 10% year over year with contribution from E1's the rookie season six and a gentleman in Moscow. Segment profit of $11 million was down year over year due to the strike's lingering impact on both episodic deliveries and are scripted and unscripted businesses as well as commissions in our talent management business. Media networks, quarterly revenue was $350 million in segment profit was $58 million.
Speaker Change: Moving on to TV, quarterly television revenue of $241 million was up 10% year-over-year with contribution from E1's The Rookie Season 6 and A Gentleman in Moscow.
Speaker Change: Segment profit of $11 million was down year over year due to the strike's lingering impact on both episodic deliveries in our scripted and unscripted businesses, as well as commissions in our talent management business.
Jimmy Barge: Media Network's quarterly revenue was $350 million, and segment profit was $58 million. Revenue was expectedly down year over year due to the exit from substantially all of our international markets, which was largely completed over the course of fiscal 2024, although with the exit from the U.K. complete.
Speaker Change: Media Network's quarterly revenue was $350 million and segment profit was $58 million.
Jimmy Barge: Revenue was expectedly down year over year due to the exit from substantially all of our international markets which was largely completed over the course of fiscal 2024. With the exit from the UK complete, stars is exclusively focused on the strength of its North American business. As such, I will focus my comments today on stars North American financial performance and subscriber trends. Quarterly North American revenue of $345 million was up 1% year over year on growth in OTP subscribers and an increase in R.Poo.
Speaker Change: Revenue was expectedly down year-over-year due to the exit from substantially all of our international markets, which was largely completed over the course of fiscal 2024.
Jimmy Barge: With the exit from the UK complete, Stars is exclusively focused on the strength of its North American business. As such, I will focus my comments today on stars' North American financial performance and subscriber trends. Quarterly North American revenue of $345 million was up 1 percent year over year on growth in OTT subscribers and an increase in our poo. Stars will be implementing a $1 price increase across the US subscriber base in the next few weeks, which we expect to further drive our poo in revenue growth. North American segment profit of $59 million was up 54 percent year over year, driven by lower original content amortization, partially offset by higher pay one film cost.
Jimmy Barge: Stars is exclusively focused on the strength of its North American business. As such, I will focus my comments today on Starr's North American financial performance and subscriber trends. Quarterly North American revenue of $345 million was up 1% year-over-year on growth in OTT subscribers and an increase in ARPU. Stars will be implementing a $1 price increase across its U.S. subscriber base in the next few weeks, which we expect to further drive ARPU and revenue growth.
Speaker Change: With the exit from the UK complete, STARS is exclusively focused on the strength of its North American business.
Speaker Change: As such, I will focus my comments today on Starz North American financial performance and subscriber trends.
Speaker Change: Quarterly North American revenue of $345 million was up 1% year-over-year on growth in OTT subscribers and an increase in ARPU.
Jimmy Barge: Stars will be implementing a $1 price increase across the US subscriber base in the next few weeks which we expect to further drive R.Poo in revenue growth. North American segment profit of $59 million was up 54% year over year driven by lower original content amortization partially offset by higher pay one film cost. Looking briefly at subscriber trends, stars ended the quarter with 13.2 million North American OTT subs up 6% year over year.
Speaker Change: S.T.A.R.S. will be implementing a $1 price increase across the U.S. subscriber base in the next few weeks, which we expect to further drive ARPU and revenue growth.
Jimmy Barge: North American segment profit of $59 million was up 54% year-over-year, driven by lower original content amortization, partially offset by higher pay-one-film costs. Looking briefly at subscriber trends, Star ended the quarter with 13.2 million North American OTT subscribers, up 6% year over year. We ended the quarter with 21.3 million total North American subscribers, which represents a sequential decline of 500,000, primarily due to the decline in linear.
Speaker Change: North American segment profit of $59 million was up 54% year-over-year, driven by lower original content amortization, partially offset by higher pay-one-film costs.
Jimmy Barge: Looking briefly at subscriber trends, Stars ended the quarter with 13.2 million North American OTT subs, up 6 percent year over year. We ended the quarter with 21.3 million total North American subscribers, which represents a sequential decline of 500,000, primarily due to the decline in linear.
Speaker Change: Looking briefly at subscriber trends, stars ended the quarter with 13.2 million North American OTT subs, up 6% year-over-year.
Jimmy Barge: We ended the quarter with 21.3 million total North American subscribers which represents sequential decline of 500,000 primarily due to the decline in linear. Now let's take a look at the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with $2 billion net data consolidated company which reflects reductions in net data to 1.4 billion at studio and 625 million at stars. The $2 billion net debt level includes the proceeds from the Landsgate Studios capital raise as well as the quarter's use of cash stemming from the post strike increase in content spin.
Speaker Change: We ended the quarter with 21.3 million total North American subscribers, which represents a sequential decline of 500,000 primarily due to the decline in linear.
Jimmy Barge: Now let's take a look at the ballot sheet. We ended the quarter with $2 billion net debt at the consolidated company, which reflects reductions in net debt to $1.4 billion at studio and $625 million at stars. The $2 billion net debt level includes the proceeds from the landscape studio's capital raise, as well as the quarter's use of cash stemming from the post-strike increase in content spin. Excluding adjusted to EBITDA from exited lines gate plus territories and inclusive of the $60 million of projected run rate contribution from E1, both consolidated lines gate and standalone lines gate studios leverage was 3.9 times, while standalone stars leverage declined the 2.8 times on positive adjusted free cash flow.
Jimmy Barge: Now, let's take a look at the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with $2 billion of net debt at the Consolidated Company, which reflects reductions in net debt to $1.4 billion at Studio and $625 million at Star. The $2 billion net debt level includes the proceeds from the Lions Gate Studios capital raise, as well as the quarter's use of cash stemming from the post-strike increase in content spend. Excluding adjusted EBITDA from exited Lions Gate Plus territories and inclusive of the $60 million of projected run rate contribution from E1, both consolidated Lions Gate and stand-alone Lions Gate Studios leverage was 3.9 times, while stand-alone STARS leverage declined to 2.8 times on positive adjusted free cash flow.
Speaker Change: Now let's take a look at the balance sheet. We ended the quarter with $2 billion of net debt at the Consolidated Company, which reflects reductions in net debt to $1.4 billion at Studio and $625 billion at Stars.
Speaker Change: The $2 billion net debt level includes the proceeds from the Lions Gate Studios capital raise, as well as the quarter's use of cash stemming from the post-strike increase in content spend.
Jimmy Barge: Excluding adjusted to EBITDA from Exited Landsgate plus territories and inclusive of the $60 million of projected run rate contribution from E1 both consolidated Landsgate and standalone Landsgate Studios leverage was 3.9 times while standalone stars leverage declined the 2.8 times on positive adjusted free cash flow.
Speaker Change: Excluding adjusted Oibidaw from exited Lions Gate Plus territories and inclusive of the $60 million of projected run rate contribution from E1,
Speaker Change: Both consolidated Lions Gate and standalone Lions Gate Studios leverage was 3.9 times, while standalone STARS leverage declined to 2.8 times on positive adjusted free cash flow.
Jimmy Barge: Lo. As we prepare for full separation by the end of calendar year 2024, we continue to make progress on establishing the stand-alone capital structures for both Lions Gate Studios and Starz. Subsequent to the end of the quarter, we closed a $340 million IP back loan facility supported by the E1 library. This facility is favorably priced sofa plus 225 basis points, and travels with the Lions Gate Studios upon separation. Coupling this financing with our previously announced bond exchange further demonstrates that we can attractively round out remaining refinancings at Stars and Lions Gate studios in conjunction with the full separation.
Jimmy Barge: Hello. As we prepare for full separation by the end of calendar year 2024, we continue to make progress on establishing the stand-alone capital structures for both Lions Gate studios and stars. Subsequent to the end of the quarter, we closed a $340 million IP back loan facility supported by the E1 library. This facility is favorably priced sofa plus 225 basis points, and travels with the Lions Gate studios upon separation. Coupling this financing with our previously announced bond exchange further demonstrates that we can attractively round out remaining refinancings at stars and Lions Gate studios in conjunction with the full separation.
Jimmy Barge: As we prepare for full separation by the end of calendar year 2024, we continue to make progress on establishing the stand-alone capital structures for both Lions Gate Studios and, Subsequent to the end of the quarter, we closed a $340 million dollar IP-backed loan facility supported by the E-1 library. This facility is favorably priced, so at plus 225 basis points, and travels with Lions Gate Studios upon separation. Coupling this financing with our previously announced bond exchange further demonstrates that we can attractively round out the remaining refinancings at Stars and Lions Gate Studios in conjunction with the full separation.
Speaker Change: As we prepare for full separation by the end of calendar year 2024, we continue to make progress on establishing the stand-alone capital structures for both Lions Gate Studios and STARS.
Speaker Change: Subsequent to the end of the quarter, we closed a $340 million dollar IP-backed loan facility supported by the E-1 library.
Speaker Change: This facility is favorably priced, so for plus 225 basis points, and travels with the Lions Gate Studios upon separation.
Speaker Change: Coupling this financing with our previously announced bond exchange further demonstrates that we can attractively round out remaining refinancings at Stars and Lions Gate Studios in conjunction with the full separation.
Jimmy Barge: The bond exchange allows $325 million of 5.5% coupon bonds due in 2029 to stay at stars, while the remaining bonds will travel to the studio at a 6% coupon with an extended maturity to 2030, creating a balanced allocation of attractively priced fixed-rate long-term bonds across both capital structures. Looking forward to the remainder of fiscal 25, as we noted before, we continue to forecast that the consolidated companies adjusted a webinar and adjusted free cash flow will be second half-weighted, driven by a significant increase in television deliveries, post-theatrical slate cash flows, stars price increase, and a return to OTT subscriber growth.
Jimmy Barge: The bond exchange allows $325 million of 5.5% coupon bonds due in 2029 to stay at STARS, while the remaining bonds will travel to the studio at a 6% coupon with an extended maturity to 2030, creating a balanced allocation of attractively priced fixed-rate, long-term bonds across both capital structures.
Jimmy Barge: The bond exchange allows $325 million of 5.5% coupon bonds due in 2029 to stay at stars. While the remaining bonds will travel to the studio at a 6% coupon with an extended maturity to 2030, creating a balanced allocation of attractively priced fixed rate long-term bonds across both capital structures. Looking forward to the remainder of fiscal 25, as we noted before, we continue to forecast that the consolidated companies adjusted to EBITDA and adjusted free cash flow will be second half weighted driven by a significant increase in television deliveries, post theatrical slate cash flows, stars price increase, and a return to OTT subscriber growth.
Speaker Change: The bond exchange allows $325 million of 5.5% coupon bonds due in 2029 to stay at STARS, while the remaining bonds will travel to the studio at a 6% coupon with an extended maturity to 2030.
Speaker Change: Creating a balanced allocation of attractively priced fixed-rate, long-term bonds across both capital structures.
Jimmy Barge: Looking forward to the remainder of Fiscal 25, as we noted before, we continue to forecast that the Consolidated Company's adjusted OEBDI and adjusted free cash flow will be second-half weighted, driven by a significant increase in television deliveries, post-theatrical slate cash flows, STARS price increase, and a return to OTT subscriber growth. However, the second quarter is expected to include six wide theatrical releases, which will result in an increase in P&A, while STARS is expected to have higher content amortization related to the timing of originals, pay 1, and pay 2 releases.
Speaker Change: Looking forward to the remainder of Fiscal 25.
Speaker Change: As we noted before, we continue to forecast that the Consolidated Company's adjusted OEBDI and adjusted free cash flow will be second-half weighted.
Speaker Change: Driven by a significant increase in television deliveries, post-theatrical slate cash flows, Starz price increase, and a return to OTT subscriber growth.
Jimmy Barge: However, the second quarter's expected includes six wide theatrical releases, which result in an increase in PNA, while Stars is expected to have higher content amortization related to the timing of originals, pay one, and pay two releases. As such, we expect leverage at both Lions Gate Studios and Stars to increase in the second quarter before returning to levels closer to three times by the end of the fiscal year.
Jimmy Barge: However, the second quarter's expected includes six wide theatrical releases, which result in an increase in PNA, while stars is expected to have higher content amortization related to the timing of originals, pay one and pay two releases. As such, we expect leverage at both Lions Gate studios and stars to increase in the second quarter before returning to levels closer to three times by the end of the fiscal year.
Speaker Change: However, the second quarter is expected to include 6 wide theatrical releases, which will result in an increase in P&A, while STARS is expected to have higher content amortization related to the timing of originals, pay 1 and pay 2 releases.
Jimmy Barge: As such, we expect leverage at both Lions Gate Studios and S.T.A.R.S. to increase in the second quarter before returning to levels closer to three times by the end of the fiscal year. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Nilay for Q&A. Thanks, Jimmy.
Speaker Change: As such, we expect leverage at both Lions Gate Studios and S.T.A.R.S. to increase in second quarter before returning to levels closer to three times by the end of the fiscal year.
Nilay Shah: Now I'd like to turn the call over to Neely for Q&A. Thanks, Jimmy. Operator, can we open the call up for Q&A?
Nilay Shah: Now I'd like to turn the call over to Neelay for Q&A. Thanks, Jimmy. Operator, can we open the call up for Q&A? We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchstone phone. If you are using a speaker phone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been answered and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two.
Nilay Shah: Thanks, Jimmy. Operator, can we open the call up for Q&A?
Speaker Change: Now I'd like to turn the call over to Nilay for Q&A.
Nilay Shah: Thanks, Jimmy. Operator, can we open the call up for Q&A?
Operator: We will now begin the question-and-answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then 1 on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been answered and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then 2. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble a roster. This question comes from Thomas Yeh with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Operator: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your touchstone phone. If you're using a speaker phone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been answered, and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star, then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble a roster.
Speaker Change: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then 1 on your touchtone phone.
Speaker Change: If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been answered and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then 2.
Operator: At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble a roster.
Speaker Change: At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble a roster.
Thomas Yeh: Question comes from Thomas here with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Thanks so much. I wanted to touch base on the television delivery comments. There's certainly been a lot of moving industry pieces from your buyers and then ongoing focus on rationalization. I know there's a strike timing element to it as well. Is that the former component of that driving anything in terms of how it's impacting your discussions? Can you maybe just talk a little bit about what you're seeing in the industry landscape in terms of the buyer appetite for new orders?
Thomas Yeh: Question comes from Thomas here with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Thanks so much.
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Speaker Change: This question comes from Thomas Yeh with Morgan Stanley . Please go ahead.
Jon Feltheimer: Thanks so much. I wanted to touch base on the television delivery comments. There's certainly been a lot of moving industry pieces from your buyers and an ongoing focus on rationalization. I know there's a strike timing element to it as well. Is the former component of that driving anything in terms of how it's impacting your discussions? And can you maybe just talk a little bit about what you're seeing in the industry landscape in terms of buyer appetite for new orders?
Michael Burns: I wanted to touch base on the television delivery comments. There's certainly been a lot of moving industry pieces from your buyers and then ongoing focus on rationalization. I know there's a strike timing element to it as well. Is that the former component of that driving anything in terms of how it's impacting your discussions? Can you maybe just talk a little bit about what you're seeing in the industry landscape in terms of the buyer appetite for new orders?
Thomas Yeh: Thanks so much. I wanted to touch base on the television delivery comments. There's certainly been a lot of moving industry pieces from your buyers.
Speaker Change: and then ongoing focus on rationalization.
Speaker Change: I know there's a strike timing element to it as well, is that, is the former component of that driving anything in terms of how it's impacting your discussions, and can you maybe just talk a little bit about what you're seeing in the industry landscape in terms of the buyer appetite for new orders?
Michael Burns: Kevin. Mike speaking. It's a great question. The post strike hangover was longer than I think than anyone expected. And in the scripted side, particularly once the strike was over, then you have, then you start writing. So there's another two month lag behind. But what we're seeing in the development side is a pretty robust demand for product. There is more financial discipline about the budgets that are going to be commissioned. But we sold 37 new projects subsequent to the strike.
Mike: Mike Speaking. It's a great question. The post-strike hangover was longer than I think than anyone expected. And in the scripted side, particularly once the strike was over, then you have, then you start writing. So there's another two-month lag behind. But what we're seeing in the development side is a pretty robust demand for product. There is more financial discipline about the budgets that are going to be commissioned. But we sold 37 new projects subsequent to the strike. That's a record for us. And I think indicative of demand. But we're also shooting all over the world, finding variable price points to help manage the profitability aspects, which all the streamers are really focusing on in this kind of post-strike correction era.
Jon Feltheimer: The post-strike hangover was longer than I think anyone expected, and in the scripted side, particularly once the strike was over, then you have then you start writing, so there's another two-month lag behind. But what we're seeing on the development side is a pretty robust demand for product. There is more financial discipline about the budgets that are going to be commissioned, but we sold 37 new projects subsequent to the strike. That's a record for us and I think indicative of demand, but we're also shooting all over the world finding variable price points to help manage the profitability aspects which all the streamers are really focusing on in this kind of post-strike correction era. What it points to is ongoing demand but for a lot of flexibility about pricing, budget, and, above all, great creative because it has to stand out in a crowded market.
Kevin Beggs: Kevin Beggs speaking.
Speaker Change: That's a great question.
Speaker Change: The post-strike hangover was longer than I think than anyone expected.
Kevin Beggs: And in the scripted side, particularly, once the strike was over, then you start writing, so there's another two-month lag behind.
Kevin Beggs: But what we're seeing in the development side is a pretty robust demand for product. There is more financial discipline about the budgets that are going to be commissioned, but we sold 37 new projects subsequent to the strike. That's a record for us.
Michael Burns: That's a record for us. And I think indicative of demand, but we're also shooting all over the world, finding variable price points to help manage the profitability aspects, which all the streamers are really focusing on in this kind of post strike correction era. What it points to, I think, is going to be ongoing demand, but for a lot of flexibility about pricing budget and above all, great creative because it has to stand out in a crowded market.
Kevin Beggs: and I think indicative of demand, but we're also shooting all over the world, finding variable price points.
Kevin Beggs: to help manage the profitability aspects, which all the streamers are really focusing on in this kind of post-strike correction era.
Thomas Yeh: What it points to, I think, is going to be ongoing demand. But for a lot of flexibility about pricing, budget, and above all, great creative because it has to stand out in a crowded market. Okay, that's helpful.
Kevin Beggs: What it points to, I think, is going to be ongoing demand, but for a lot of flexibility about pricing, budget, and above all, great creative, because it has to stand out in a crowded market.
Jeffrey Hirsch: Okay, that's helpful. And for Jeff, I think Jon mentioned an expectation for a return to sequential OTT subscriber growth. Given the current landscape and the maturity of the streaming market and price increase in the works, what gives you confidence in that? Maybe talk a little bit about the slate and what you're seeing to date in the month of August. Thomas.
Jeffrey Hirsch: Okay, that's helpful. And for Jeff, I think John mentioned an expectation for a return to star sequential OTT subscriber growth. Given the current landscape and the maturity of the streaming market and price increase in the works, what gives you confidence in that maybe talk a little bit about the slate and what you're seeing to date in the month of August. Yeah, thanks for the question, Thomas. You know, John talked about we have implemented a rate Christmas quarter, so they'll be continued pressure on subs as quarter.
Thomas Yeh: And for Jeff, I think John mentioned an expectation for a return to star sequential OTT subscriber growth. Given the current landscape and the maturity of the streaming market and price increase in the works, it will give you confidence in that.
Jeff: Okay, that's helpful. And for Jeff...
Jeff: I think Jon mentioned an expectation for a return to star-sequential OTT subscriber growth. Given the current landscape and the maturity of the streaming market and a price increase in the works, what gives you confidence in that? Maybe talk a little bit about the slate and what you're seeing to date in the month of August .
Jeffrey Hirsch: Maybe talk a little bit about the slate and what you're seeing to date in the month of August. Yeah, thanks for the question, Thomas. You know, as John talked about, we have implemented a rate creation's quarter. So there'll be continued pressure on subs as quarter. But as we turn to the back half of the year in quarters, three and quarters, fourths, our strongest slate in terms of originals got Outlander 7B coming back. We've got caning coming back on. We've got a really robust slate of pay one movie, some Lion Gate and pay two from Universal.
Jeffrey Hirsch: Yeah, thanks for the question, Thomas. You know, as Jon talked about, we implemented a rate increase this quarter, so there'll be continued pressure on subs this quarter. But as we turn to the back half of the year, in quarters 3 and 4, it's our strongest slate in terms of originals. We've got Outlander 7b coming back. We've got Kanan coming back on.
Jon: Yeah, thanks for the question Thomas. You know, as Jon talked about, we have a...
Speaker Change: We've implemented a rate increase this quarter, so there'll be continued pressure on subs this quarter. But as we turn to the back half of the year in quarters three and quarters four, it's our strongest slate in terms of originals. We've got Outlander 7B coming back, we've got Canaan coming back on, we've got a really robust slate of pay one movies from Lions Gate and pay two from Universal, and so it's probably our strongest slate part of the year. We also have the holiday period in there, which our partners are really working with us in terms of offers together, and so it's a really robust opportunity to grow the business in the back half of the year. So we feel very confident that we'll have healthy OTT growth in quarters three and quarter four, and we also will come out of the year with revenue growth for the year.
Jeffrey Hirsch: But as we turn to the back half of the year and quarters, three and quarters, fourths, our strongest slate in terms of originals got outlander 7B coming back. We've got can and coming back on. We've got a really robust slate of pay one movie, some lion's gate and pay two from universal. And so it's probably our strongest slate part of the year. We also have the holiday period in there, which our partners are really working with us in terms of offers together.
Jeffrey Hirsch: We've got a really robust slate of pay 1 movies from Lions Gate and pay 2 from Universal. And so it's probably our strongest slate part of the year. We also have the holiday period in there, and our partners are really working with us in terms of offers together. And so it's a really robust opportunity to grow the business in the back half of the year. So we feel very confident that we'll have healthy OTT growth in quarters 3 and 4. And we will also come out of the year with revenue growth.
Jeffrey Hirsch: And so it's probably our strongest slate part of the year. We also have the holiday period in there, which our partners are really working with us in terms of offers together. And so it's a really robust opportunity to grow the business in the back half of the year. So we feel very confident that we'll have healthy OTT growth in quarters three and quarter four. And we also will come out of the year with revenue growth for the year. Thanks so much.
Jeffrey Hirsch: And so it's a really robust opportunity to grow the business in the back half of the year. So we feel very confident that we'll have healthy OTT growth in quarters, three and quarter, four. And we also will come out of the year with revenue growth for the year. Thanks so much. Thanks, Thomas.
Operator: How pretty could we get the next question, please?
Thomas Yeh: Thanks, Thomas.
Operator: Thanks, Thomas. Operator, could we get the next question, please?
Stephen Cahall: How pretty could we get the next question, please? The next question comes from Stephen K. Hall with House Fargo. Please go ahead. Thank you. So John and Jimmy, you both mentioned some of the fiscal first quarter softness that you need to recover from. First, could you just be a little more clear about what didn't come together in the quarter that you expected. I know some of the TV deliveries were lighter. I've expected that was timing, but maybe there's some bigger kind of industry trends that you're seeing. And you both mentioned some adaptations that the company's making.
Speaker Change: Thanks so much.
Operator: The next question comes from Steven Cahall with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Steven Cahall: The next question comes from Stephen K. Hall with House Fargo. Please go ahead. Thank you. So John and Jimmy, you both mentioned some of the fiscal first quarter softness that you need to recover from. First could you just be a little more clear about what didn't come together in the quarter that you expected. I know some of the TV deliveries were lighter. I expected that was timing, but maybe there's some bigger kind of industry trends that you're seeing.
Speaker Change: Thanks, Thomas. Operator, could we get the next question, please?
Speaker Change: The next question comes from Steven Cahall with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Jimmy Barge: Thank you. Jon and Jimmy, you both mentioned some of the fiscal first quarter softness that you need to recover from. First, could you just be a little more clear about what didn't come together in the quarter that you expected? I know some of the TV deliveries were lighter.
Steven Cahall: And you both mentioned some adaptations that the company's making. Could you be a little more clear about what sort of benefits from those adaptations we can see to help you get to the studio guidance that you've given for for the year. And then Jimmy, could you just spend a little more time on the IP back loan facility with the E1 content. And do you have an opportunity to do something with the rest of the library that would be attractive DCV some of your other debt structures and why not consider that. And then lastly, anything in particular that you're seeing on the library side, a pretty good library revenue number, which is curious on any longer term trends in licensing and library.
Steven Cahall: Thank you. So, Jon and Jimmy, you both mentioned some of the fiscal first quarter softness that you need to recover from. First, could you just be a little more clear about what didn't come together in the quarter that you expected? I know some of the TV deliveries were lighter. I suspected that was timing, but maybe there's some bigger kind of industry trends that you're seeing. And you both mentioned some adaptations that the company's making. Could you be a little more clear about what sort of benefits from those adaptations we can see to help you get to the studio's guidance that you've given for the year?
Jimmy Barge: I suspected that was timing, but maybe there's some bigger kind of industry trends that you're seeing. And you both mentioned some adaptations that the company's making. Could you be a little more clear about what sort of benefits from those adaptations we can see to help you get to the studio's guidance that you've given for the year? And then, Jimmy, could you just spend a little more time on the IP-backed loan facility with the E-1 content?
Stephen Cahall: Could you be a little more clear about what sort of benefits from those adaptations we can see to help you get to the studio guidance that you've given for the year. And then Jimmy, could you just spend a little more time on the IP back loan facility with the E1 content. Do you have an opportunity to do something with the rest of the library? That would be attractive DCV, some of your other debt structures, and why not consider that. And then lastly, anything in particular that you're seeing on the library side, a pretty good library revenue number, which is curious on any longer-term trends in licensing and library.
Jimmy Barge: Do you have an opportunity to do something with the rest of the library that would be attractive vis-a-vis some of your other debt structures, and why not consider that? And then lastly, anything in particular that you're seeing on the library side? A pretty good library revenue number. We're just curious about any longer-term trends in licensing and libraries. Thank you.
Speaker Change: And then, Jimmy, could you just spend a little more time on the IP-backed loan facility with the E-1 content?
Speaker Change: Do you have an opportunity to do something with the rest of the library that would be attractive vis-Ã -vis some of your other debt structures, and why not consider that? And then lastly, anything in particular that you're seeing on the library side, a pretty good library revenue number?
Stephen Cahall: Thank you.
Speaker Change: We're just curious on any longer term trends in licensing and libraries. Thank you.
Jon Feltheimer: Sure. Look in terms of the quarter; you know, we are feeling the impact, as noted, of a kind of more extended, a little deeper impact of the strike. So definitely, if affected deliveries, that's timing. We have some cancellations that's more than just timing, right? So a little deeper impact will feel good about where we are in our path to getting back to our number. We've got our work cut out for us over the next three quarters. And the second quarter, in particular, we got a great film release coming up. So we got six releases coming up, but it'll be heavy up on PNA.
Jimmy Barge: Sure. Look, in terms of the quarter, yeah, you know, we are feeling the impact, as noted, of a kind of more extended, a little deeper impact of the strike. So, definitely affected deliveries. That's timing. We had some cancellations. But it's more than just timing, right? So a little deeper impact.
Jimmy Barge: Thank you. Sure. Look in terms of the quarter, you know, we are feeling the impact is noted of a kind of more extended, a little deeper impact of the strike. So definitely if affected deliveries that's timing, we have some cancellations that's more than just timing, right. So a little deeper impact will feel good about where we are in our path to getting back to our number. We've got to work cut out for us over the next three quarters.
Speaker Change: sure
Speaker Change: Look, in terms of the quarter, we are feeling the impact, as noted, of a more extended, a little deeper impact of the strike. So, definitely affected deliveries.
Speaker Change: That's timing. We had some cancellations. It's more than just timing, right? So a little deeper impact. We feel good about where we are in our path to getting back to our number. We've got our work cut out for us over the next three quarters.
Jimmy Barge: But we feel good about where we are on our path to getting back to our number. We have our work cut out for us over the next three quarters. And in the second quarter, in particular, we have a great film release coming up. So we have six releases coming up. It'll be heavy on P&A, so you'd expect the trailing 12 months in EBITDA to be impacted by that. STARS has some increased content amortization based on the timing of originals and the pay one and pay two window.
Jimmy Barge: And the second quarter in particular, we got a great film release coming up. So we got six releases coming up, but it'll be heavy up on PNA. So you would expect trailing 12 months in EBITDA to be impacted by that. That starters has some increased content amortization based on the timing of originals and the pay one and pay two window. And so as you go to the cadence and you move into the back half of the year in the Q3 and Q4, you start to see the bounce back coming off the strike, episodic deliveries increasing.
Speaker Change: And the second quarter in particular, we've got a great film release coming up, so we've got six releases coming up. It'll be heavy up on P&A, so you'd expect Trailing Twelve Months and Ibbidae to be impacted by that. S.T.A.R.S. has some increased content amortization based on the timing of...
Jimmy Barge: So you would expect trailing 12 months in the EBITDA to be impacted by that. Starters has some increased content amortization based on the timing of originals and the pay one and pay two window. And so, as you go to the cadence and you move into the back half of the year in the Q3 and Q4, you start to see the bounce back coming off the strike, episodic deliveries increasing. We have almost doubled the number of scripted episodic orders in the second half of this year coming up in TV relative to the prior year. And obviously then we get the benefit of the second quarter film releases coming forward, as well as on the Starters side returning to the OTT growth, as Jeff mentioned, as well as strong content in the back part of the year and the benefit of increased RPU and price increase.
Jimmy Barge: And so as you go to the cadence and you move into the back half of the year, in Q3 and Q4, you start to see the bounce back coming off the strike, with episodic deliveries increasing. We have almost double the number of scripted episodic orders in the second half of this year coming up on TV relative to the prior year. And obviously, then we get the benefit of the second quarter film releases coming forward, as well as on the STARS side, returning to the OTT growth, as Jeff mentioned, as well as strong content in the latter part of the year and the benefit of increased ARPU and a price increase. So there we go. We execute and head towards these numbers. The second part of your question was with regard to the IP facilities.
Jimmy Barge: We have almost doubled the number of scripted episodic orders in the second half of this year coming up in TV relative to the prior year. And obviously then we get the benefit of the second quarter film releases coming forward as well as on the starter side returning to the OTT growth. As Jeff mentioned, as well as strong content in the back part of the year and the benefit of increased RPU and price increase.
Speaker Change: and the originals and the pay one and pay two window. And so as you go to the cadence and you move into the back half of the year in the Q3 and Q4.
Speaker Change: You'll start to see the bounce back coming off the strike, episodic deliveries increasing. We have almost doubled the number of...
Kevin Beggs: of scripted episodic orders in the second half of this year coming up in TV relative to the prior year. And obviously then we get the benefit of the second quarter.
Speaker Change: the film releases coming forward, as well as on the Starz side, returning to the OTT growth, as Jeff mentioned, as well as strong content in the back part of the year, and the benefit of increased ARPU and a price increase.
Jim Packer: So there we go. We execute and head towards these numbers. Your second part of your question was with regards to the IP facility.
Jimmy Barge: So there we go. We execute and head towards these numbers. Your second part of your question was with regards to the IP facility. I'm going to let actually Jim Packer answer the question about library and talk about sort of the environment for library and our libraries, specifically. Yeah. Hi, Steven. We are experiencing, as you can see, with our 86 trailing 12 months, continued strength. The portfolio has gotten much better with E1.
Jim Packer: There we go. We execute and head towards these numbers. Your second part of your question was with regards to the IP facility. I'm going to let, actually, Jim Packer answer the question about library and talk about sort of the environment for library and our library specifically.
Jimmy Barge: I'm going to let Jim Packer answer the question about the library and talk about the environment for libraries and our library.
Jim Packer: I'm going to let actually Jim Packer answer the question of that library and talk about sort of the environment for librarian and our libraries. specifically. Yeah. Hi, Steven. We are experiencing, as you can see, with our 86 trailing 12 months. Continue strength. The portfolio has gotten much better with E1. You know, we have the rookie. We really didn't have a great procedural in our library. Now we do. We also, as Jon mentioned, have a really robust, fast, and kind of AVOD self-directed publishing business that's well over 100 million now. So we're, I think we're finding that this portfolio approach is really working.
Jim Packer: Hi Steven. We are experiencing, as you can see with our 886 trailing 12 months, continued strength. The portfolio has gotten much better with E1. You know, we have the rookie. We really didn't have a great procedural in our library.
Speaker Change: Yeah.
Jim Packer: Hi, Steven. We are experiencing, as you can see with our 886 trailing 12 months,
Jim Packer: Continued strength.
Jimmy Barge: You know, we have the rookie. We really didn't have a great procedural in our library. Now we do. We also, as John mentioned, have a really robust, fast and kind of avod, self-directed publishing business that's well over 100 million now. So we're, I think we're finding that this portfolio approach is really working. I think if you look at any of the top streamers, you'll see one or two of our titles in the top 10 on every single platform.
Jim Packer: The portfolio has gotten much better with E1.
Jim Packer: You know, we have the Rookie, we really didn't have a great procedural in our library, now we do. We also, as Jon mentioned, have a really robust, fast, and kind of AVOD.
Jim Packer: Now we do. We also, as Jon mentioned, have a really robust, fast, and kind of AVOD-based self-directed publishing business that's well over $100 million now. So I think we're finding that this portfolio approach is really working. I think if you look at any of the top streamers, you'll see one or two of our titles in the top 10 on every single platform. And I think that's the key to the diversity of our library and the fact that everybody's really continuing to do business with us and wants to do business with us.
Jim Packer: self-directed publishing business that's well over 100 million now. So we're
Jim Packer: I think if you look at any of the top streamers, you'll see one or two of our titles in the top 10 on every single platform. And I think that's the key to the diversity of our library and the fact that everybody's really continuing to do business with us and want to do business with us. Yeah. And in terms of adaptations, I'm not sure what you're referring to. There certainly are Kevin and his television team are out in the marketplace right now. I think you can expect to see some pretty exciting announcements about adaptations, the word you use in terms of our television business in regards to our franchises.
Speaker Change: I think we're finding that this portfolio approach is really working. I think if you look at any of the top streamers...
Speaker Change: You'll see one or two of our titles in the top ten on every single platform, and I think that's the key to the diversity of our library and the fact that everybody's really continuing to do business with us and want to do business with us.
Jimmy Barge: And I think that's the key to the diversity of our library and the fact that everybody's really continuing to do business with us and want to do business with us. Yeah. And in terms of adaptations, I'm not sure what you're referring to. They're certainly our Kevin and his television team are out in the marketplace. Right now, I think you can expect to see some pretty exciting announcements about adaptations, the word you use in terms of our television business in regard to our franchises.
Adam Fogelson: Yeah, and in terms of adaptations, I'm not sure what you're referring to. There certainly are; Kevin and his television team are out in the marketplace right now. I think you can expect to see some pretty exciting announcements about adaptations, the word you used, in terms of our television business in relation to our franchises. But I would also add that Adam Fogelson is really taking charge of our games product and experience group, and that's an area I think Adam, you might want to talk a little about how we're pushing earlier monetization and what we're doing in that area.
Speaker Change: Yeah, and in terms of adaptations, I'm not sure what you're referring to. There certainly are, Kevin and his television team are out in the marketplace right now. I think you can expect to see them.
Speaker Change: Thank you so much for joining us today, and we hope that we've given you some pretty exciting announcements about adaptations, the word you use in terms of our television business in regards to our franchises, but I would also add that Adam Fogelson is really taking charge of
Adam Fogelson: But I would also add that Adam Fogelson is really taking charge of our games, product, and experience group. And that's an area I think Adam, you might talk a little about in how we're pushing earlier monetization and what we're doing in that area. Yeah. I mean, the group has been doing. Thanks so much, Jon. The group's been doing a lot of great development work over the last few years. But it's time to put the pedal down and start monetizing. And the only reason to do that is because the content deserves it. I think Jon mentioned in his remarks, 13 shows that are preparing for Broadway.
Jimmy Barge: But I would also add that Adam Fogelson has really taken charge of our games, product and experience group. And that's an area. I think Adam, you might talk a little about and how we're pushing earlier monetization and what we're doing in that area. Yeah. I mean, the group has been doing, thanks so much John. The group's been doing a lot of great development work over the last few years, but it's time to put the pedal down and start monetizing.
Adam: are games, product, and experience group. And that's an area, I think, Adam, you might talk a little about, and how we're pushing earlier monetization, and what we're doing in that area. Yeah, I mean, the group has been doing, thanks so much, Jon. The group's been doing a lot of great development work over the last few years, but it's time to put the pedal down and start monetizing. And the only reason to do that is because the content deserves it. I think Jon mentioned in his remarks, 13 shows that are preparing for Broadway. A number of them should be coming in the next 12 to 18 months.
Adam Fogelson: Yeah, I mean, the group has been doing, thanks so much Jon, the group's been doing a lot of great development work over the last few years, but it's time to put the pedal down and start monetizing, and the only reason to do that is because the content deserves it. I think Jon mentioned in his remarks 13 shows that are preparing for Broadway; a number of them should be coming in the next 12 to 18 months.
Jimmy Barge: And the only reason to do that is because the content deserves it. I think John mentioned in his remarks, 13 shows that are preparing for Broadway. A number of them should be coming in the next 12 to 18 months. We're seeing huge momentum on the game side. We mentioned the John Wick AAA game specifically, but a number of our properties. The fans are asking us to interact with those properties in much more significant ways.
Adam Fogelson: A number of them should be coming in the next 12 to 18 months. We're seeing huge momentum on the game side. We mentioned the John Wick AAA game specifically, but a number of our properties. The fans are asking us to interact with those properties in much more significant ways. And on the gaming side, both in the console world and in the online world, there are a lot of opportunities there. So we do think that there's going to be meaningful increases in revenue and contribution coming, starting in this fiscal year and then growing over the course of the coming years.
Adam Fogelson: We're seeing huge momentum on the game side; we mentioned the John Wick AAA game specifically, but a number of our properties, the fans are asking us to interact with those properties in much more significant ways, and on the gaming side, both in the console world and in the online world, there are a lot of opportunities there. So we do think that there are going to be meaningful increases in revenue and contribution starting in this fiscal year and then growing over the course of the coming
Jimmy Barge: And on the gaming side, both in the console world and in the online world, there are a lot of opportunities there. So we do think that there's going to be meaningful increases in revenue and contribution coming starting in this fiscal year and then growing over the course of the coming years. That's even answering your questions. Well, coming back to your question on the IP facility, Steven. Yeah, thanks for noting. We did $340 million, primarily off the E1 library and very efficient pricing, as I noted.
Speaker Change: We're seeing huge momentum on the game side, we mentioned the John Wick AAA game specifically, but a number of our properties, the fans are asking us to interact with those properties.
Speaker Change: in much more significant ways. And on the gaming side, both in the console world and in the online world, there are a lot of opportunities there. So we do think that there's going to be meaningful increases in revenue and contribution coming starting in this fiscal year and then growing over the course of the coming years.
Jimmy Barge: Does that even answer your question? Well, coming back to your question on the IP facility, Steven. Thanks for noting. We did $340 million, primarily off the E1 library and very efficient pricing, as I noted. So, yeah, you should expect us to see continuing that. As you know, the benefit of that is that it travels with the studio. So you put that next to the bond exchange. And, you know, the significant amount of the debt and capital structure already established for both studio and stars. So I'm highly confident we can come back and take the asset-rich aspect of the studio balance sheet and do more IP facilities and ABL ultimately to take out the bank lines at the time of full separation.
Jimmy Barge: Does that, Steven, answer your questions? Well, coming back to your question on the IP facility, Steven, yeah, thanks for noting we did $340 million primarily off the E1 library and very efficient pricing, as I noted. So yeah, you should expect us to see that continue.
Jim Packer: Does that, Steven, answer your question? Well, coming back to your question on the IP facility, Steven...
Steven: Yeah, thanks for noting. We did 340 million.
Speaker Change: primarily off the E1 library and very efficient pricing, as I noted. So yeah, you should expect us to see continuing that. As you know, the benefit of that is is it travels with the studio. So you put that next to the bond exchange.
Jimmy Barge: So yeah, you should expect us to see continuing that. As you know, the benefit of that is that it travels with the studio. So you put that next to the bond exchange and the significant amount of the debt and capital structure already established for both studio and stars. So I'm highly confident we can come back and take the asset-rich aspect of the studio balance sheet and do more IP facilities in ABL ultimately to take out the bank lines at the time of full separation.
Jimmy Barge: As you know, the benefit of that is it travels with the studio, so you put that next to the bond exchange and the significant amount of the debt and capital structure already established for both studio and STARS, so I'm highly confident we can come back and take the asset-rich aspect of the studio balance sheet and do more IP facilities and ABL, ultimately, to take out the bank lines at the time of full separation. And then on STARS, it's a misunderstood asset.
Speaker Change: And, you know, a significant amount of the debt and capital structure are already established for both Studio and Starz.
Adam: So, I'm highly confident we can come back and...
Adam: Take the asset-rich aspect of the studio balance sheet and do more IP facilities and ABL, ultimately, to take out the bank lines at the time of full separation. And then on STARS, it's a misunderstood asset. There's significant cash flows, very visible there. You've got $325 million of bonds. You have $625 million net debt. You put another $300 to $350 term loan aid against that.
Jimmy Barge: And then on stars, this understood asset. There's significant cash flows, very visible there. You've got $325 million a bond. You have $625 million net debt. You put another $300 to $350 term-lone A against that. And, you know, you're, as I said, in my remarks, you're closer to three times leverage and you've got significant cash flow coming out of that over time with effectively no cash taxes within a well-carrier over as minimal cash interest of maybe $50 million a year and minimal cap ex. So you've got a really strong business to finance there. Thank you.
Jimmy Barge: And then on stars, this understood asset. There's significant cash flows, very visible there. You've got 325 million of bonds. You have 625 million net debt. You put another $300 to $350 terminate a against that. And you know, you're, as I said in my remarks, you're closer to three times leverage and you got significant cash flow coming out of that over time with effectively no cash taxes within a well-carrier over as minimal cash interest of maybe 50 million a year and minimal cash. So you've got a really strong business to finance there. Thank you. Thanks.
Jimmy Barge: There are significant cash flows, very visible there. You've got $325 million of bonds; you have $625 million net debt. You put another $300 to $350 in term loan aid against that, and you're, as I said in my remarks, closer to three times leverage, and you've got significant cash flow coming out of that over time, with effectively no cash taxes, with NOL carryovers, minimal cash interest of maybe $50 million a year, and minimal capex, so you've got a really strong business to finance there.
Operator: How pretty could we get the next question please?
Adam: And, you know, you're, as I said in my remarks, you're closer to three times leverage and you've got significant cash flow coming out of that over time.
Jim Packer: with effectively no cash taxes, with NOL carryovers, minimal...
Jim Packer: Cash interest of maybe 50 million a year in minimal capex, so you got a really strong business to finance there.
Operator: Thanks.
Operator: Thanks. Operator, could we get the next question, please?
Barton Crockett: Operative, could we get the next question, please? The next question comes from Barton Crockett with Wilson Blatt. Please go ahead. Hi, thanks for taking the question. I wanted to understand a little bit more precisely if I can, what you're saying about your expectation for Webda near term. So are you saying what's the spending in the studio segment that studio Webda will be less in the second quarter than it will be? What was in the first quarter? Is that what you're trying to indicate? That's one question. And then the second question is just wanting to understand a little bit more precisely the process for the split from here.
Speaker Change: Thank you.
Operator: The next question comes from Barton Crockett with Wilson Blatt. Please go ahead.
Barton Crockett: The next question comes from Barton Crockett with Wilson Blatt. Please go ahead. Hi, thanks for taking the question. Um, I wanted to understand a little bit more precisely if I can what you're saying about your expectation for, uh, Webda near term. So are you saying what's the, uh, spending in the studio segment that studio, Webda will be less in the second quarter than it will. What was in the first quarter? Um, is that what you're trying to indicate?
Speaker Change: Thanks. Operator, could we get the next question, please?
Speaker Change: The next question comes from Barton Crockett with Wilson Blatt. Please go ahead.
Barton Crockett: Hi, thanks for taking the question. I wanted to understand a little bit more precisely, if I can, what you're saying about your expectation for OEBDA near term. So, are you saying, with the spending in the studio segment, that studio OEBDA will be less in the second quarter than it was in the first quarter? Is that what you're trying to indicate?
Barton Crockett: Um, that's one question. And then the second question is just wanting to understand a little bit more precisely the process for the split from here. Do you? Is it simply just a matter of completing some filings and getting them past the SEC or is there. Um, and then getting a vote or is there something else that has to happen?
Barton Crockett: Hi, thanks for taking the question.
Barton Crockett: I wanted to understand a little bit more precisely, if I can, what you're saying about your expectation for OIBDA near term.
Barton Crockett: Are you saying with the spending in the studio segment that...
Speaker Change: Studio OIDA will be less in the second quarter than it was in the first quarter.
Jimmy Barge: That's one question. And then the second question is just wanting to understand a little bit more precisely the process for the split from here. Is it simply just a matter of completing some filings and getting them past the SEC and then getting a vote, or is there something else that has to happen?
Speaker Change: Is that what you're trying to indicate? That's one question.
Speaker Change: The second question is just wanting to understand a little bit more precisely the process for the split from here. Is it simply just a matter of completing some filings and getting them past the SEC and then getting a vote, or is there something else that has to happen?
Barton Crockett: Is it simply just a matter of completing some filings and getting them past the SEC, or is there and then getting a vote? Or is there something else that has to happen?
Jimmy Barge: Yeah, thanks, Barton. Yeah, I'll take the EBITDA question first. Yeah, we would expect, and you would too, expect the studio EBITDA to be less in the second quarter because we have, again, six releases, which is really heavy, but we're excited about that on the film side. So that P&A is going to hit immediately, but then obviously, that puts very strong recovery back into Q3 and Q4. The TV business will be up beyond and build throughout the year, but not enough to overcome the, you know, the six, the releases on the film side.
Jimmy Barge: Yeah, thanks, Barton. Yeah, I'll take the Webda question first. Yeah, we would expect, and you would do is at the studio. Webda to be less in the second quarter because we have again six releases, which is really heavy up, but we're excited about that on the film side. So that PNA is going to hit immediately, but then obviously that puts very strong recovery back into Q3 and Q4. The TV business will be up beyond and build throughout the year, but not enough to overcome the six releases on the film side. And then we have the spin.
Jimmy Barge: Yeah, thanks.
Jimmy Barge: Yeah, thanks Barton. Uh, yeah, I'll take the, the EBITDA question first. Uh, yeah, we would expect, uh, and you would do is at the studio, uh, EBITDA to be less in the second quarter because we have, again, six releases, which is really heavy up, but we're excited about that on the film side. So that PNA is going to hit immediately, but then obviously that puts very strong recovery back into Q3 and Q4.
Speaker Change: Yeah, thanks, Barton. Yeah, I'll take the EBITDA question first. Yeah, we would expect, and you would too, expect the studio...
Jimmy Barge: Uh, the TV business will be up about beyond, uh, and build throughout the year, uh, but not enough to overcome the, you know, the six, uh, the releases on the, on the film side. And then we have the spin. So as we said from the beginning, uh, the back end, the, this year is back in loaded into the Q3 and Q4. So it is playing out like that. And, um, you know, we feel great about second half and we're prepared to then Q2, we will have an increase in leverage some use of cash flow.
Speaker Change: Yevda would be less in the second quarter because we have, again, six Releases which is really heavy up, but we're excited about that on the film side So that P&A is going to hit immediately, but then obviously that puts very strong recovery Back in the Q3 and Q4. The TV business will be up about beyond and build throughout the year
Jim Packer: But not enough to overcome the, you know, the six, the releases on the film side. And then we have the spin. So as we've said from the beginning, the back end, this year is back end loaded into the Q3 and Q4.
Jimmy Barge: And then we have the spin. So as we've said from the beginning, the back end of this year is back end loaded into Q3 and Q4. So it is playing out like that. And, you know, we feel great about the second half, and we're prepared that in Q2, we will have an increase in leverage, some use of cash flow. Again, it's the cadence of the content business on the studio. And then.
Jimmy Barge: So, as we said from the beginning, the back end this year is back in loaded into the Q3 and Q4. So it is playing out like that, and we feel great about second half, and we're prepared to then Q2. We will have an increase in leverage, some use of cash flow. Again, it's the cadence of the content business on the studio side.
Jim Packer: So, it is playing out like that and, you know, we feel great about the second half and we're prepared that in Q2 we will have an increase in leverage, some use of cash flow. Again, it's the cadence of the content business on the studio side.
Jimmy Barge: Uh, again, it's the cadence of the content business on the studio side. And then proxy, your last question in terms of timing, uh, the spin, uh, what we would expect is our next steps will be to file a preliminary proxy in September. Okay. It will be subject SEC review. Uh, once we clear the SEC, then we would be mailing a definitive proxy and going for Canadian regulatory review and ultimate shareholder votes and mid to late fall as we approach and stay on track for a tax efficient spin, uh, within calendar year 2024. Great. Thank you. Thanks, Barton.
Operator: Operator, could we get the next question, please?
Jimmy Barge: And then proxy your last question in terms of timing of the spin. Again, what we would expect is our next steps will be to file a preliminary proxy in September. It will be subject to SEC review. Once we clear the SEC, then we would be mailing a definitive proxy and going for Canadian regulatory review and ultimate shareholder votes in mid to late fall as we approach and stay on track for a tax-efficient spin within calendar year 2024.
Jimmy Barge: Your last question, in terms of the timing of the spin, what we would expect is that our next steps would be to file a preliminary proxy in September, okay? It will be subject to SEC review. Once we clear the SEC, then we will be mailing the definitive proxy and going for Canadian regulatory review and ultimate shareholder votes in mid to late fall as we approach and stay on track for a tax-efficient spin within calendar year 2024.
Jim Packer: Amen.
Jim Packer: proxy.
Speaker Change: Your last question, in terms of the timing of the spin, what we would expect is our next steps would be to file a preliminary proxy in September , okay? It will be subject to SEC review. Once we clear the SEC, then we would be mailing a definitive proxy and going for Canadian regulatory review and ultimate shareholder votes in mid to late fall as we approach and stay on track for a tax-efficient spin.
Speaker Change: within calendar year 2024.
Barton Crockett: Great. Thank you. Thanks, Barton.
Operator: Thanks, Barton. Operator, could we get the next question, please?
Operator: Operator, could we get the next question, please? The next question comes from David Joyce with C-Port Research Partners. Please go ahead. Thank you. Two questions. First, if you could just provide a little bit more clarity on the remaining semantics from those studios and stars in terms of, you know, how that's progressing. When you expect to close on them, any price talk yet, that sort of thing? Then I've got a second question. Yeah, sure, David. Yeah, the next steps we are definitely having conversations with the banks. Those are going very well. Again, we just closed the E1 IP facility the Friday after the 4 July weekend.
Speaker Change: Great, thank you.
Operator: The next question comes from David Joyce with Seaport Research Partners. Please go ahead.
David Joyce: The next question comes from David Joyce with C4 research partners. Please go ahead. Thank you.
Jim Packer: Thanks Barton. Operator, could we get the next question please?
Speaker Change: The next question comes from David Joyce with Seaport Research Partners. Please go ahead.
David Joyce: Thank you. First, if you could just provide a little bit more clarity on the remaining financing for both Studios and STARS in terms of how that's progressing, when you expect to close on them, any price talk yet, that sort of thing.
Jimmy Barge: Uh, two questions. First, if you could, um, just provide a little bit more clarity on the remaining semantics, uh, from those studios and stars in terms of, you know, how that's progressing. When, when you expect to close on them, any, any price talk yet, that sort of thing, then I've got a second question. Yeah, sure, David. Uh, yeah, the next steps we are definitely having conversations with the banks. Those are going very well.
David Joyce: Thank you. Two questions. First, if you could just provide a little bit more clarity on...
David Joyce: The remaining financings for both studios and stars in terms of, you know, how that's progressing, when you expect to close on them, any price talk yet, that sort of thing.
Jimmy Barge: Yeah, sure, David. Yeah, the next steps, we are definitely having conversations with the banks. These are going very well. Again, we just closed the E1 IP facility the Friday after the 4th of July weekend. And, you know, we're moving ahead. We can do another IP facility just off of a slice of Lions Gate Library, for example, in the same way we just did. Pay down some existing debt that does not move forward, and the new IP facility would move forward and travel with the studio.
Speaker Change: Then I've got a second question.
David Joyce: Yeah, sure, David.
Speaker Change: Yeah, the next steps, we are definitely having conversations with the banks. Those are going very well. Again, we just closed the E1 IP facility the Friday after 4th of July weekend. And, you know, we're moving ahead. We can do another IP facility just off of a slice of Lions Gate Libraries, for example, in the same way we just did. Pay down some existing...
Jimmy Barge: Uh, again, we just closed the E1 IP facility, uh, the Friday after 4th of July weekend. And, you know, we're moving ahead. We can do another IP facility just off of a slice of, or a landscape library, for example. In the same way we just did, uh, pay down some existing debt that does not move forward and, and the new IP facility would move forward and travel with the studio. And in the day, you've got significant unsold lights, uh, valuation on the landscape library.
David Joyce: And, you know, we're moving ahead. We can do another IP facility just off of a slice of, or a landscape libraries, for example, in the same way we just did pay down some existing debt that does not move forward, and the new IP facility would move forward and travel with the studio. And in the day, you've got significant, unsold lights, valuation on the landscape library. Okay, over and beyond the E1 valuation. And that provides plenty of assets with which to fully refinance, probably a billion, too, if you look at our outstanding debt at the end of June 30th, the Terminal Nays, the Bees, and Revolver, which is effectively what you'd be refinancing.
Jimmy Barge: And at the end of the day, you've got a significant unsold light valuation on the Lions Gate Library, okay, over and beyond the E1 valuation, and that provides plenty of assets with which to fully refinance, probably a billion, too, if you look at our outstanding debt at the end of June 30th, the terminal A's, the B's, and the revolver, which is effectively what you'd be refina And again, we've already done the bonds, so those have already been split.
Jim Packer: and the new IP facility would move forward and travel with the studio. And at the end of the day...
Speaker Change: You've got significant unsold lights.
Jimmy Barge: Okay, over and beyond the E1 valuation. And that provides plenty of assets with which to fully refinance, probably a billion to if you look at our, uh, outstanding debt at the end of June 30th, the Terminal Nays, the Bees and Revolver, which is effectively what you'd be refinancing. And again, we've already done the bonds. So those are already been split. We've already done 340 million of this IP facility. So really got a billion to left on the, on the studio side with plenty of assets.
Jim Packer: evaluation on the Lions Gate Library, okay, over and beyond the E1 evaluation.
Jim Packer: And that provides plenty of assets with which to fully refinance.
Speaker Change: probably a billion, too, if you look at our...
Jim Packer: Outstanding debt at the end of June 30th, the terminal A's, the B's, and the revolver, which is effectively what you'd be refinancing.
Jimmy Barge: And, again, we've already done the bonds, so those have already been split. We've already done 340 million of this IP facility. So, really, you've got a billion, too, left on the studio side with plenty of assets to finance that. And then you need baby, 300 to 350 of Terminal Nays on the star side. And, again, that's a very strong business. We've had conversations with the banks. I'm very confident. I don't want to get out in front of things in terms of price talk, but I'll tell you it is very favorable. And if one was so inclined, you could swap variable back fixed right now on two-year swap and pick up over 100 basis points.
Jim Packer: And again, we've already done the bonds, so those have already been split. We've already done $340 million of this IP facility.
Jimmy Barge: We've already done $340 million in this IP facility, so really, you've got a billion left on the studio side with plenty of assets to finance that, and then you need maybe $300 to $350 of terminal A on the star side. And again, that's a very strong business. We've had conversations with the banks. I'm very confident. I don't want to get ahead of things in terms of price talk, but I'll tell you it is very favorable, and if one was so inclined, you could swap variable back to fixed right now in a two-year swap and pick up over 100 basis points. So I feel good about where we are.
Jim Packer: So really, you've got a billion-two left on the...
Jimmy Barge: To finance that. And then you need baby 300 to 350 of Terminal Nays on the store side. And again, that's a very strong business. We've had conversations with the banks. I'm very confident. I don't want to, uh, get out in front of things in terms of price talk. But I'll tell you it is very favorable. And if one was so inclined, you could swap variable back to fix right now on two years swap and pick up over 100 basis points. So I feel good about where we are. And so I feel good about where we are.
Jim Packer: on the studio side with plenty of assets to finance that. And then you need maybe 300 to 350 of term loan A on the star side. And again, that's a very strong business. We've had conversations with the banks. I'm very confident. I don't wanna.
Jim Packer: get out in front of things in terms of price talk, but I'll tell you it is very favorable. And if one was so inclined, you could swap variable back to fix right now and two-year swap and pick up over 100 basis points. So I feel good about where we are.
Jimmy Barge: So, I feel good about where we are.
Jimmy Barge: And then you had a second question, David. Yeah, thank you. This was a quarter with a lot of content spent, you know, catch up after the strike. Is this about the maximum level of spend that you can handle in your system? And I was wondering, and I think this kind of need of tales with another question earlier, but what would the timing be on the deliveries from this content spending we just saw this quarter? Yeah, well, that starts to inform the third and fourth quarter, and then pushing on into 26 in terms of just strong results, how we're back in loaded.
Jimmy Barge: And then you had a second question, David. Yeah, thank you.
Jimmy Barge: And then you had a second question, David. Yeah, thank you. This was a quarter with a lot of content spend, you know, catch up after the strike. Is this about the maximum level of spend that you can handle in your system? And I was wondering, and I think this kind of need of tales with another question earlier, but what would the timing be on the deliveries from this content spending? We just saw this quarter.
Jimmy Barge: Yeah, thank you. This was a quarter with a lot of content spend, you know, catch up after the strike. Is this about the maximum level of spend that you can handle in your system? And I was wondering, and I think this kind of dovetails with another question earlier, but what would the timing be on the deliveries from this content spending we just saw this quarter?
Jimmy Barge: Yeah, well, that that starts to inform the third and fourth quarter and then pushing on into 26 in terms of just strong results, how we're back in loaded. We can always manage more content spend for the right content, okay? But this was pretty peak, expect a little bit of the same in Q2. And then it starts to mitigate through the back end of the year, settles out right around 500 million a quarter, if you will, you know, over Q3 and Q4.
Jim Packer: And then you had a second question, David.
David Joyce: Yeah, thank you. This was a quarter with a lot of content spend, you know, catch up after the strike.
David Joyce: Is this about the maximum level of...
Speaker Change: I think this kind of dovetails with another question earlier, but what would the timing be on the deliveries from this content spending we just saw this quarter?
Jimmy Barge: Yeah, well that starts to inform the third and fourth quarters and then pushing on into 26 in terms of just strong results, and how we're back in loaded. We can always manage more content spend for the right content, okay, but this was pretty peaky. Expect a little bit of the same in Q2 and then it starts to mitigate through the back end of the year, settles out right around 500 billion a quarter, if you will, you know, over Q3 and Q4. And at the same time, you start to see the cash generation from the television deliveries, okay, and from the theatrical releases in Q2. You start to see that cash flow flowing through. So it has a very strong cash flow on the back end.
Speaker Change: Yeah, well, that starts to inform the third and fourth quarter and then pushing on into 26 in terms of just strong results, how we're back in loaded. We can always manage more content spend for the right content, okay? But this was pretty peak, expect a little bit of the same in Q2, and then it starts to mitigate through the back end of the year, settles out right around $500 billion a quarter, if you will.
Jimmy Barge: We can always manage more content spent for the right content. Okay. But this was pretty peak. Expect a little bit of the same in Q2. And then it starts to mitigate through the back end of the year, settles out right around 500 million a quarter, if you will. You know, over Q3 and Q4. And at the same time, then you start to see the cash generation from the television deliveries. Okay. And from the theatrical releases in Q2, you start to see that cash flow flowing through. This is very strong cash flow in the back end.
Jimmy Barge: And at the same time, then you start to see the cash generation from the television deliveries, okay? And from the theatrical releases in Q2, you start to see that cash flow flowing through this is very strong cash flow in the back end. I appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker Change: you know over Q3 and Q4.
Speaker Change: And at the same time, then you start to see the cash generation from the television deliveries.
Operator: Hey, David, I'll probably get the next question please.
Speaker Change: Okay, and from the theatrical releases in Q2, you start to see that cash flow flowing through. So it's very strong cash flow in the back end.
Jimmy Barge: I appreciate it. Thank you.
David Joyce: Appreciate it. Thank you.
Speaker Change: I appreciate it. Thank you.
Jason Bazinet: David, upward. The next question comes from Jason Bassinette with City. Please go ahead. Hi, I just had two quick questions. First, I guess it's been about eight months since you closed any one, and I was just curious, is that gone about? How did you expect it better? Any surprises to the downside? And then my second question: I know it's not the largest business for you, but there's sort of a big debate in the industry about whether theatrical in the US is ever going to get back to the 11th billion number pre-COVID. Do you guys have a house view on giving everything that's going on in the industry and changes in Windows and all that?
Operator: Thanks, David. Operator, can we get to some questions, please?
Operator: The next question comes from Jason Bazinet with Citi. Please go ahead.
Dresan Basinette: The next question comes from Dresan Basinette with City. Please go ahead. So hi, I just had two quick questions. First, I guess it's been about eight months since you closed any one. And I was just curious, is that gone about, is you expected better? Any surprises to the downside? And then my second question, I know it's not the largest business for you, but there's sort of a big debate in the industry about whether theatrical in the US is ever going to get back to this 11th billion number pre-COVID.
Speaker Change: Thanks David, I'll pretty much get to the next question please.
Speaker Change: The next question comes from Jason Bazinet with Citi. Please go ahead.
Jason Bazinet: Hi, I just had two quick questions. First, I guess it's been about eight months since you closed on E1, and I was just curious, has that gone? About as you expected, better, any surprises to the downside? And then my second question, I know it's not the largest business for you, but there's sort of a big debate in the industry about whether theatrical. Do you guys have a house view on, given everything that's going on in the industry and changes in windows and all that, you know, where we ultimately settle out on U.S. theatrical box receipts?
Jason Bazinet: Hi, I just had two quick questions. First, I guess it's been about eight months since you closed on E1, and I was just curious, has that gone about as you expected? Better? Any surprises to the downside?
Dresan Basinette: Do you guys have a house view on giving everything that's going on in the industry and changes in windows and all that? You know, where we ultimately settle out on the US theatrical box received. Thanks. Hey, it's Adam. Happy to answer the second question first and then I'll pass the ball. I'm not sure that anyone is necessarily predicting that the overall box office will climb back to that 11 billion dollar number.
Speaker Change: And then my second question, I know it's not the largest business for you, but...
Speaker Change: There's sort of a big debate in the industry about whether theatrical...
Speaker Change: Do you guys have a house view on, given everything that's going on in the industry and changes in windows and all that, you know, where we ultimately settle out on the on the US theatrical box?
Adam Fogelson: You know, where we ultimately settle out on the US theatrical box receipts. Thanks. Hey, it's Adam.
Adam Fogelson: Hey, it's Adam. I'm happy to answer the second question first, and then I'll pass the ball.
Adam Fogelson: Happy to answer the second question first, and then I'll pass the ball. I'm not sure that anyone is necessarily predicting that the overall box office will climb back to that $11 billion number. However, I would also say that a lot of conversation two, three, four, five months ago about the possibility that people were interested in going to movie theaters anymore has been pretty radically disproven by great content over the course of the last summer. And not only has it been sort of tent poles and franchises that have been working, but smaller films as well. And even films that don't necessarily make it onto everyone's radar from a publicity standpoint, we had three theatrical releases in the last quarter, all of which performed exceptionally well.
Speaker Change: Receipts, thanks.
Speaker Change: Hey, it's Adam. Happy to answer the second question first and then I'll pass the ball.
Adam Fogelson: I'm not sure that anyone is necessarily predicting that the overall box office will climb back to that 11 billion dollar number. However, I would also say that a lot of conversation two, three, four, five months ago about the possibility that people weren't interested in going to movie theaters anymore has been pretty radically disproven by great content over the course of the last summer. And not only have it been sort of tent poles and franchises that have been working, but smaller films as well.
Speaker Change: I'm not sure that anyone is necessarily predicting that the overall box office will climb back to that $11 billion number. However...
Dresan Basinette: However, I would also say that a lot of conversation two, three, four or five months ago about the possibility that people weren't interested in going to movie theaters anymore has been pretty radically disproven by great content over the course of the last summer. And not only has it been sort of tent poles and franchises that have been working, but smaller films as well. And even films that don't necessarily make it onto everyone's radar from a publicity standpoint.
Speaker Change: I would also say that a lot of conversation two, three, four, five months ago about the possibility that people weren't interested in going to movie theaters anymore has been pretty radically disproven by great content over the course of the last summer. And not only has it been sort of tent poles and franchises that have been working, but smaller films as well. And even films that don't necessarily make it onto everyone's radar from a publicity standpoint.
Adam Fogelson: And even films that don't necessarily make it onto everyone's radar from a publicity standpoint. We had three theatrical releases in the last quarter, all of which performed exceptionally well. Ministry, Unsung Hero, and Strangers were all really, really profitable and all delivered really significant margins well north of that 20% number everyone was talking about last year.
Dresan Basinette: We had three theatrical releases in the last quarter, all of which performed exceptionally well. The ministry, unsung hero, and strangers were all really, really profitable and all delivered really significant margins, well north of that 20% number everyone was talking about last year. So we are really bullish about what the theatrical business can do, especially because we have the benefit of an incredibly careful and precise and small overhead relative to the competition.
Speaker Change: three theatrical releases.
Adam Fogelson: The ministry, unsung hero, and strangers were all really, really profitable and all delivered really significant margins well north of that 20% number everyone was talking about last year. So we are really bullish about what the theatrical business can do, especially because we have the benefit of an incredibly careful and precise and small overhead relative to the competition and are managing both the production costs and the marketing cost in a very different way. And so our ability to continue to generate profits not only on the big tent pole films like the John Wicks and the Hunger Games of the world, but also on small and mid-size films that again may not generate great press headlines, but are certainly generating great returns for the company.
Speaker Change: in the last quarter, all of which performed exceptionally well.
Speaker Change: The Ministry, Unsung Hero, and Strangers were all really, really profitable and all delivered really significant margins, well north of that 20% number everyone was talking about last year. So we are really bullish about what the theatrical business can do, especially because we have the benefit of an incredibly...
Jon Feltheimer: So we are really bullish about what the theatrical business can do, especially because we have the benefit of an incredibly careful and precise and small overhead relative to the competition and are managing both the production costs and the marketing costs in a very different way. And so our ability to continue to generate profits, not only on the big tentpole films like the John Wicks and the Hunger Games of the world but also on small and mid-sized films that, again, may not generate great press headlines but are certainly generating great returns for the company.
Dresan Basinette: And our managing both the production cost and the marketing cost in a very different way. And so our ability to continue to generate profits not only on the big tent pole films like the John Wicks and the Hunger Games of the World, but also on small and mid-size films that again may not generate great press headlines, but are certainly generating great returns for the company. And I want to add one thing there, John, that what we don't know or haven't seen yet is that that the part of the consumer base that always drove a lot of the theatrical business which was the frequent moviegoer.
Speaker Change: Careful and precise and small overhead relative to the competition and are managing both the production costs and the marketing costs in a very different way And so our ability to continue to generate profits
Speaker Change: Not only on the big tentpole films like the John Wick's and the Hunger Games of the world, but also on small and mid-sized films that again may not generate great press headlines, but are certainly generating great returns for the company.
Jon Feltheimer: And I want to add one thing there, John, that what we don't know or haven't seen yet is that the part of the consumer base that always drove a lot of the theatrical business, which was the frequent moviegoer, the moviegoer that went once a month, was about 28% of the business. And I think there is a possibility, if we start getting that frequent moviegoer back, the sky is the limit.
Adam Fogelson: And I want to add one thing there, John, that what we don't know or haven't seen yet is that the part of the consumer base that always drove a lot of the theatrical business, which was the frequent moviegoer, the moviegoer that went once a month, was about 28% of the business. And I think there is a possibility if we start getting that frequent moviegoer back. I mean, the sky is the limit; this thing could really work. But it is exciting to see the overperformance of so many movies in the marketplace right now. And Adam and I seem really are right now in great position, particularly going into 26 with all of the franchises to take advantage of that.
Dresan Basinette: The moviegoer that went once a month was about 28% of the business. And I think there is a possibility if we start getting that frequent moviegoer back. I mean the sky is the limit. This thing could really work, but it is exciting to see the overperformance of so many movies in the marketplace right now. And Adam and his team really are right now in great position, particularly going into 26 with all of the franchises to take advantage of that.
Speaker Change: And I want to add one thing there, Jon.
Speaker Change: that what we don't know or haven't seen yet is that the part of the consumer base that always drove a lot of the theatrical business, which was the frequent moviegoer, the moviegoer that went once a month, was about 28% of the business.
Jon: I think there is a possibility, if we start getting that frequent moviegoer back, I mean...
Jon Feltheimer: This thing could really work, but it is exciting to see the overperformance of so many movies in the marketplace right now. And Adam and his team really are right now in a great position, particularly going into 26 with all of the franchises, to take advantage of that. In terms of E1, I would say we are very pleased with E1, and not just because, really, the thesis for E1 was mostly about a library and integrating a huge library, 7,000 titles, which, going back to sort of the overhead question that always comes up, we've added a total of seven people between Lionsgate and E1 to handle 7,000 titles.
Speaker Change: The sky is the limit.
Alec Baldwin: and Alec Baldwin.
Jon Feltheimer: In terms of E1, I would say we are very pleased with E1 and not just the thesis around E1 was mostly about a library and integrating a huge library, 7000 titles which going back to sort of the overhead question that always comes up. We've added a total between Lionsgate and E1 to handle 7,000 titles of 7 people; that would be unheard of at any of the other studios. And so that part of the deal looks very solid, but there's a strategic value to this integration that we're finding right now.
Dresan Basinette: In terms of E1, I would say we are very pleased with E1. And not just the thesis around E1 was mostly about a library and integrating a huge library, 7,000 titles, which going back to the overhead question that always comes up. We've added a total between Lionsgate and E1 to handle 7,000 titles of 7 people. That would be unheard of at any of the other studios. And so that part of the deal looks very solid, but there's a strategic value to this integration that we're finding right now.
Speaker Change: In terms of E1, I would say we are very pleased with E1, and not just, you know, really the thesis around E1 was mostly about a library and integrating a huge library, 7,000 titles, which going back to sort of the overhead.
Jim Packer: We've added a total between Lions Gate and E1 to handle 7,000 titles of seven people. That would be unheard of at any of the other studios, and so that part of the deal looks very solid. But there's a strategic value to it.
Jon Feltheimer: That would be unheard of at any of the other studios. And so that part of the deal looks very solid, but there's a strategic value to this integration that we're finding right now, and we'll let Jim Packer talk a little about it.
Jim Packer: I'm going to let Jim Packard talk a little about it. Yeah, I think there were three things that were really set out early on as a really proving out the right way. One is Lionsgate Canada; we are now a really significant presence up there, or Canadian content, licensing business has really skyrocketed. It has been really great for us. Second, some of our franchises, Hunger Games, WIC, Twilight, were controlled by E1 in major territories: Canada, UK, Spain, and others; we now control those. And that's a big deal for us in our licensing business. In a market, in a country like Spain, we actually are having a record year through our motion picture group because we're controlling these franchises.
Dresan Basinette: I'm going to let Jim Packard talk a little about it. Yeah, I think there were three things that were really set out early on as a really proving out the right way. One is Lionsgate Canada. We are now a really significant presence up there, our Canadian content, licensing business has really skyrocketed. It has been really great for us. Second, some of our franchises, Hunger Games, WIC, Twilight, were controlled by E1 in major territories, Canada, UK, Spain, and others.
Jim Packer: to the
Jim Packer: integration that we're finding right now. I'm going to let Jim Packer talk a little about it. Yeah, I think there were three things that were really set out early on that are really proving out the right way. One is Lionsgate Canada.
Jon Feltheimer: Yeah, I think there were three things that were really set out early on that are really proving out the right way. One is Lions Gate Canada. We are now a really significant presence up there. Our Canadian content licensing business has really skyrocketed. It's been really great for us.
Dresan Basinette: We now control those. And that's a big deal for us in our licensing business in a market. In a country like Spain, we actually are having a record year through our motion picture group because we're controlling these franchises. And then lastly, there was one soft spot in our library. It was procedural, as I said earlier. But in addition to the rookie, which is kind of a global phenomenon as far as procedural, we got 20 other procedurals as part of this library. So that aspect is really strong for the group and playing out nice.
Jon Feltheimer: Thank you for all the color.
Jim Packer: We are now a really significant presence up there. Our Canadian content licensing business has really skyrocketed. It's been really great for us.
Jim Packer: Second, some of our franchises, Hunger Games, WIC, Twilight, were controlled by E1 in major territories, Canada, the UK, Spain, and others. We now control those, and that's a big deal for us in our licensing business. In a market like Spain, we actually are having a record year through our motion picture group because we're controlling these franchises. And then lastly, there was one soft spot in our library. It was procedurals, as I said earlier, but in addition to the Rookie, which is kind of a global phenomenon as far as procedurals go, we got 20 other procedurals as part of this library. So that aspect is really strong for the group and is playing out nicely.
Jim Packer: Second, some of our franchises, Hunger Games, WIC, Twilight, were controlled by E1 in major territories.
Jim Packer: Canada, UK, Spain, and others.
Jim Packer: We now control those and that's a big deal for us in our licensing business in a market in a country like Spain We actually are having a record year through our motion picture group because we're controlling these franchises and then lastly
Jim Packer: And then lastly, there was one soft spot in our library; it was procedural, as I said earlier. But in addition to the rookie, which is kind of a global phenomenon as far as procedural, we got 20 other procedures as part of this library. So that aspect is really strong for the group and playing out nice. Thank you for all the color.
Jim Packer: There was one soft spot in our library, it was procedurals, as I said earlier, but in addition to the Rookie, which is kind of a global phenomenon as far as procedural, we got 20 other procedurals as part of this library, so that aspect is really strong for the group and playing out nicely.
Jon Feltheimer: That's great. Thank you for all the color.
Alan Gould: Next question comes from Alan Gould with Loop Capital. Please go ahead. Thanks for taking my question. I've got two, please: one for Jeff and one for Jimmy. Jeff, I realize that stores is priced a lot less, lower price to the consumer than most of the other services. But everybody seems to be raising prices these days. And even though it's how much the Earth can handle.
Operator: Thanks, Jason. I'm pretty good. Can we get the next question, please?
Alan Gould: Next question comes from Alan Gould with Loop Capital, please go ahead. Thanks for taking my question, I've got two please, one for Jeff and one for Jimmy. Jeff, I realize that stores is price a lot less, lower price to the consumer than most of the other services. But everybody seems to be raising price these days, and even though there's so much more to handle. And for Jimmy, just some curious, so a $200 plus million increase in deferred revenue at the studio of this quarter seems like an additional item.
Speaker Change: That's great. Thank you for all the color.
Operator: The next question comes from Alan Gould with Loop Capital. Please go ahead.
Jim Packer: Thanks, Jason. I'm pretty sure we get the next question, please.
Speaker Change: The next question comes from Alan Gould with Loop Capital. Please go ahead.
Alan Gould: Thanks for taking my question. I've got two, please. One for Jeff and one for Jimmy. Jeff, I realize that Storz is priced a lot less attractively to the consumer than most of the other services, but everybody seems to be raising prices these days, regardless of how much the consumer can handle. And for Jimmy, just because I'm curious, I saw a $200 million increase in deferred revenue at the studio this quarter. It seems like an integral item. Can you just tell me what that is?
Alan Gould: Thanks for taking my question. I've got two please. One for Jeff and one for Jimmy. Jeff, I realize that stores is priced a lot less lower price to the consumer than most of the other services, but everybody seems to be raising price these days.
Jimmy Barge: And for Jimmy, just some curious, so a $200 plus million increase in deferred revenue at the studio of this quarter seems like an additional item. Just tell me what that is.
Speaker Change: I saw a $200-plus million increase in deferred revenue at the studio this quarter. Seems like an integral item. Can you just tell me what that is?
Jeffrey Hirsch: Hi, Alan. Thanks for the question. You know, as you look at the industry, as we've said, and we've always, Stars has always been a very complimentary service, whether it's been on the linear business or in the new kind of digital business in terms of trying to be that, that add on or that bundle partner for all these broad based streaming services. And what we've seen over the last couple of years, and you've seen it this week, is that the broad-based streamers continue to raise their rates at significant levels, which gives us room to continue to raise our rate.
Jeffrey Hirsch: Hi Alan, thanks for the question. You know, as you look at the industry, as we've said and we always say, STARS has always been a very complementary service, whether it's been in the linear business or in the new kind of digital business in terms of trying to be that add-on or that bundle partner for all these broad-based streaming services. And what we've seen over the last couple years, and you've been seeing it this week, is that broad-based streamers continue to raise their rates at significant levels, which gives us room to continue to raise our rates.
Alan Gould: Just tell me what that is. Hi, Alan. Thanks for the question. You know, as you look at the industry, as we've said, and we've always stars has always been a very complimentary service, whether it's been on the linear business or in the new kind of digital business in terms of trying to be that, that add on or that bundle partner for all these broad based streaming services. And what we've seen over the last couple of years, and you've seen it this week, that the broad based streamers continue to raise their rates at significant levels, which gives us room to continue to raise our rate.
Speaker Change: Hi, Alan. Thanks for the question. You know, as you look at the industry, as we've said, and we've always, STARS has always been a very complimentary
Speaker Change: service, whether it's been on the linear business or in the new kind of digital business in terms of
Speaker Change: and they're trying to be that add-on or that bundle partner for all these broad-based streaming services.
Jim Packer: Over the last couple years, and you've been seeing it this week, that the broad-based streamers continue to raise their rates at significant...
Jimmy Barge: We just executed our second rate increase this past Monday. We look at engagement on the service in terms of our consumers with the big originals and the pay one and pay two, and we're seeing record engagement. And so we felt like we still had room to go. And so we just raised rates again, and we'll continue to watch that. But as long as the broad based streamers continue to raise rates, that gives us room to maintain our strategic position as complimentary. We'll continue to look at rate as a way to grow revenue. And the deferred revenue represents content sales, who's like library, et cetera, who's avail dates are not ready yet.
Jeffrey Hirsch: We just executed our second rate increase this past Monday. We look at engagement on the service in terms of our consumers with the big originals and the pay one and pay two, and we're seeing record engagement. And so we felt like we still had room to go, and so we just raised rates again. And we'll continue to watch that. But as long as the broad-based streamers continue to raise rates, that gives us room to maintain our strategic position as complementary; we'll continue to look at rates as a way to grow revenue.
Alan Gould: We just executed our second rate increase this past Monday. We look at engagement on the service in terms of our consumers with the big originals and the pay one and pay two, and we're seeing record engagement. And so we felt like we still had room to go. And so we just raise rates again, and we'll continue to watch that. But as long as the broad based streamers continue to raise rate, that gives us room to maintain our strategic position as complimentary will continue to look at rate as a way to grow revenue.
Speaker Change: which gives us room to continue to raise our rate. We just executed our second rate increase this past Monday.
Jim Packer: We look at engagement on the service in terms of our consumers with the big originals, and the pay one and pay two, and we're seeing record engagement, and so we felt like we still had room to go, and so we just raised rates again, and we'll continue to watch that, but as long as the broad-based streamers continue to raise rates, that gives us room to maintain our strategic position as complementary, we'll continue to look at rates as a way to grow revenue.
Jimmy Barge: And the deferred revenue represents content sales, like libraries, et cetera, whose availed dates are not ready yet, so you've not been able to recognize revenue. So, effectively, it represents future revenue.
Alan Gould: And the before revenue represents content sales, who's like library, et cetera, who's available dates are not ready yet. So you've not been able to recognize revenues. So effectively, it represents future revenue. Was there one big package or something, Jimmy, because you never had 200 million in a quarter before? Now there's more of a combination of things. Remember, we also have the E1 integration as well, so we're selling E1 content as well. Okay. Thank you. Thanks, Alan. How pretty could we get the next question, please?
Speaker Change: And the deferred revenue represents content sales, like library, et cetera, whose avail dates are not ready yet, so you've not been able to recognize revenue. So, effectively, it represents future revenue.
Jimmy Barge: So you've not been able to recognize revenues. So effectively, it represents future revenue.
Jimmy Barge: Was there one big package or something, Jimmy, because you've never had $200 million in a quarter before? No, that was more of a combination.
Jimmy Barge: Was there one big package or something, Jimmy, because you've never had 200 million in a quarter before? Now there's more of a combination of things. Remember, we also have the E1 integration as well. So we'll sell any one content as well.
Speaker Change: Was there one big package or something, Jimmy, because you've never had $200 million in a quarter before?
Jimmy Barge: That was more of a combination of things. Remember, we also have the E1 integration as well, so we're selling E1 content as well.
Jimmy: That was more of a combination of things. Remember, we also have the E1 integration as well, so we're selling E1 content as well.
Alan Gould: Okay, thank you. Thanks, Alan.
Operator: Thanks, Alan. Alfredo, could we get the next question, please?
Jim Goss: How pretty could we get the next question, please? The next question comes from Jim Goss, but very good research. Please go ahead. All right, thanks. I want to tell you, it's been very diverse in terms of its output size, type, and distribution. And now you have E1 and other acquisitions. I'm wondering if you might characterize the fiscal 25 and fiscal 26 output by theatrical versus TV versus direct streaming. And possibly by a mix of titles by size and genre, any sort of global characteristics you might provide. Is that related to E1, Jim, in terms of just...
Jimmy: Thank you.
Jim Packer: Thanks, Alan. Afridi, could we get the next question, please?
Jim Goss: The next question comes from Jim Goss, that's very good research. Please go ahead. All right. Thanks. Lainty, it's always been very diverse in terms of its output size type and distribution. And now you have E1 and other acquisitions.
Operator: The next question comes from Jim Goss with Warrington Research. Please go ahead.
Speaker Change: The next question comes from Jim Goss with Barrington Research. Please go ahead.
Jim Goss: Alright, thanks. Lions Gate has always been very diverse in terms of its output, size, type, and distribution, and now you have E1 and other acquisitions. I'm wondering if you might characterize the Fiscal 25 and Fiscal 26 output by theatrical versus TV versus direct-to-streaming and possibly by mix of titles by size and genre, any you know, sort of global characteristics.
Jim Goss: Alright, thanks. Lions Gate has always been very diverse in terms of its output, size, type, and distribution, and now you have E1 and other acquisitions. I'm wondering if you might characterize
Jon Feltheimer: I wonder if you might characterize the fiscal 25 and fiscal 26 output by the ethical versus TV versus direct streaming and possibly by a mix of titles by size and genre, any, any, you know, sort of global characteristics you might provide. That related to E1 Jim in terms of just no, I mean, all of your output, I just meant that that added into it. Does it tilted more to television now? And maybe possibly also just some streaming?
Jim Goss: The Fiscal 25 and Fiscal 26 output by theatrical versus TV versus direct-to-streaming, and possibly by a mix of titles by size and genre.
Speaker Change: you know sort of global
Jimmy Barge: Is that related to E1, Jim, in terms of just the other one? No, no.
Speaker Change: Characteristics you might provide.
Jim Packer: No, I mean, all of your output, I just meant that added into it, does it tilt more to television now? And possibly also just some streaming. Just looking at the overall output of releases on an annual basis for this year and next year. Yeah, I think, you know, we pretty much have a, when you look at the kind of studio side of things, $3 billion plus of revenue, you know, fairly well mixed, a little bounce period to period, depending on the number of theatrical releases. So it's pretty well mixed. On the E1 side, it's going to be more heavily weighted towards TV.
Jimmy Barge: I mean all of your output. I just meant the... That added into it, does it tilt it more towards television now, and maybe possibly also... Just looking at the overall output of the release on an annual basis for this year and next year. Yeah, I think, you know, we pretty much have a, when you look at the kind of studio side of things, $3 billion plus in revenue, it's fairly well mixed. It'll bounce period to period, depending on the number of theatrical releases. So it's pretty well mixed.
Speaker Change: Is that related to E1, Jim, in terms of just how the... No, no, I mean all of your output. I just meant to...
Speaker Change: That added into it, does it tilt it more to television now, and maybe possibly also just some streaming? Just looking at the overall output of releases on an annual basis for this year and next year.
Jon Feltheimer: Just looking at the overall output of releases on an annual basis for this year and next year. Yeah, I think, you know, we pretty much have a, when you look at the kind of studio side of things, $3 billion plus of revenue, you know, fairly well mixed, a little bounce period to period, depending on the number of theatrical releases. So it's pretty well mixed. On the E1 side, it's going to be more heavily weighted towards TV.
Speaker Change: Yeah, I think, you know, we pretty much have a, when you look at the kind of studio side of things, $3 billion plus of revenue, you know, it's fairly well mixed. It'll bounce period to period depending on the number of theatrical releases. So it's pretty well mixed.
Jon Feltheimer: I would say probably 80% antistical 25 would be TV related, more like less than 20% on the motion picture side, motion picture is a little heavier on the percentage in Q1 because we had Arthur with some other things we were integrating, but really the bigger piece of E1 is going to be their television product and library sales related to that. It also, in terms of the total film releases, for example, you probably have maybe as many as a dozen one year or the next in terms of theatrical, but you'd also have a lot of others that go maybe direct to streaming or just some other output.
Jimmy Barge: On the E1 side, it's going to be more heavy, heavily weighted towards TV. I would say probably 80% of fiscal 25 would be TV-related, more like less than 20% on the motion picture side. The motion picture business was a little heavier on the percentage in Q1 because we had Arthur, and we had some other things we were integrating, but really, the bigger piece of E1 is going to be their television product and library sales related to that.
Speaker Change: On the E1 side...
Adam Fogelson: I would say probably 80% antistical, 25 would be TV related, more like less than 20% on the motion picture side. Motion picture is a little heavier on the percentage in Q1 because we had Arthur, we had some other things we were integrating, but really the bigger piece of E1 is going to be their television product and library sales related to that. It also, in terms of the total film releases, for example, you probably have maybe as many as it doesn't one year or the next in terms of theatrical, but you'd also have a lot of others that go maybe direct to streaming or just some other output.
Speaker Change: It's going to be more heavily weighted towards TV. I would say probably 80% in fiscal 25 would be TV related.
Jim Packer: More like less than 20% on the motion picture side. Motion picture was a little heavier on the percentage in Q1 because we had Arthur, we had some other things we were integrating, but...
Adam Fogelson: Also, in terms of the total number of film releases, for example, you probably have... Maybe as many as a dozen one year or the next in terms of theatrical, but you'd also have a lot of others that go direct-to-streaming, or just...
Jimmy: It also, in terms of the total film releases, for example, you probably have,
Jimmy: maybe as many as a dozen one year or the next in terms of theatrical but you'd also have a lot of others that go
Adam Fogelson: Hey, it's Adam. I'm happy to try to answer that question. I mean, what I would say is this. Jon and I have gone over the development slate and looked at the strength of the franchises that we have. Both franchises that we have already been thriving with, like John Wick and Hunger Games, and also franchises that we're building. Jon mentioned Highlander, really evolving, now you see me at the next level, developing Monopoly with Margot Robbie and her terrific company working on Naruto, all of those projects.
Adam Fogelson: Hey, it's Adam. I'm happy to try to answer that question. I mean, what I would say is this: John and I have gone over the development slate and looked at the strain of the franchises that we have, both franchises that we have already been thriving with, like John Wick and Hunger Games, and also franchises that we're building. John mentioned Highlander, really evolving. Now you see me to the next level, developing Monopoly with Margot Robbie and her terrific company working on Naruto, all of those projects. So I think that you're going to see three to four tent poles per year starting in fiscal 26, where probably it was one or two in prior years.
Jon Feltheimer: Hey, it's Adam. I'm happy to try to answer that question. I mean, I, what I would say is this, John and I have gone over the development slate and looked at the strain of the franchises that we have, both franchises that we have already been thriving with like John Wick and Hunger Games and also franchises that we're building. John mentioned Highlander. Really evolving now. You see me to the next level developing monopoly with Margot Robbie and her and her terrific company working on Naruto, all of those projects.
Jimmy: Maybe a direct-to-streaming or just some other output.
Jimmy: Hey, it's Adam. I'm happy to try to answer that question. I mean, what I would say is this.
Jon: Jon and I have gone over the development slate and looked at the strength of the franchises that we have, both franchises that we have already been thriving with, like John Wick and Hunger Games, and also franchises that we're building. Jon mentioned Highlander, really evolving Now You See Me to the Next Level, developing Monopoly with Margot Robbie and her terrific company working on Naruto, all of those projects. So I think that you're going to see three to four tentpoles per year, starting in fiscal 26, where probably it was one or two in prior years. I think the balance of the slate, and we will have 12, 15 or more wide releases of various kinds, will be made up of the types of films that you've seen over the course of the year.
Adam Fogelson: So I think that you're going to see three to four tentpoles per year, starting in fiscal 26, where it probably was one or two in prior years. I think the balance of the slate, and we will have 12, 15, or more wide releases of various kinds, will be made up of the types of films that you've seen over the course of the last year, small and mid-sized films in genres that the company has thrived in in the past.
Jon Feltheimer: So I think that you're going to see three to four tent poles per year starting in fiscal 26 where probably it was one or two in prior years. I think the balance of the slate and we will have 12, 15 or more wide releases of various kinds will be made up of the types of films that you've seen over the course of the last year. Small and mid-sized films in genres that the company has thrived in in the past, continuing to work with top flight filmmakers.
Jon Feltheimer: I think the balance of the slate, and we will have 12, 15, or more wide releases of various kinds, will be made up of the types of films that you've seen over the course of the last year. Small and mid-size films in genres that the company has thrived in in the past, continuing to work with top-flight filmmakers. Francis Lawrence is excited to be working with us on the next Hunger Games movie, as he has the prior three, but he's also excited to be developing a much smaller film, but one that we're really excited about: The Long Walk, which John mentioned in his remarks.
Jimmy: of the last year, small and mid-sized films in genres that the company has thrived in in the past.
Adam Fogelson: Continuing to work with Top Flight Filmmakers, Francis Lawrence is excited to be working with us on the next Hunger Games movie, as he has with the prior three, but he's also excited to be developing a much smaller film, but one that we're really excited about, The Long Walk, which Jon mentioned in his remarks. So we're really thrilled with the quality of talent, both in front of and behind the camera, that want to work here. And our ability to deliver both on tentpole films but also on those small and mid-sized films that can be incredibly artistically satisfying but also generate a real return for the company is something that I think we're uniquely positioned to do.
Jon Feltheimer: Francis Lawrence is excited to be working with us on the next Hunger Games movie as he has the prior three, but he's also excited to be developing a much smaller film. But one that we're really excited about the long walk which John mentioned in his remarks. So we're really thrilled with the quality of talent both in front of and behind the camera that want to work here and our ability to deliver both on tent pole films, but also on those small and mid-sized films that can be incredibly artistically satisfying, but also generate a real return for the company is something that I think we're uniquely positioned to be able to do.
Speaker Change: continuing to work with Top Flight filmmakers. Francis Lawrence is excited to be working with us on the next Hunger Games movie, as he has the prior three, but he's also excited to be developing a much smaller film, but one that we're really excited about, The Long Walk, which Jon mentioned in his remarks. So we're really thrilled with the quality of talent, both in front of and behind the camera that want to work here, and our ability to deliver both on tentpole films, but also on those small and mid-sized films.
Jon Feltheimer: So we're really thrilled with the quality of talent both in front of and behind the camera that want to work here, and our ability to deliver both on tent pole films, but also on those small and mid-size films that can be incredibly artistically satisfying, but also generate a real return for the company is something that I think we're uniquely positioned to be able to do. Yeah, I think again, if you're trying to get sort of a broader perspective, I would say as we get past all of the strike-related delays, you'll start looking at what has been a typical alliance gate portfolio of motion pictures around 10 to 12 wide releases, another 30 plus direct to video, multi-platform, etc.
Speaker Change: ... that can be incredibly artistically satisfying, but also generate a real return for the company, is something that I think we're uniquely positioned to be able to do. Yeah, I think, again, if you're trying to get sort of a broader perspective, I would say as we...
Adam Fogelson: Yeah, I think, again, if you're trying to get sort of a broader perspective, I would say as we get past all of the strike-related delays, you'll start looking at what has been a typical Lionsgate portfolio of motion pictures, so around 10 to 12 wide releases, another 30-plus direct-to-video, multi-platform, et cetera, between television and film. I think you're going to see, actually, growth in the revenues of both of those businesses, and they're actually pretty equivalent. They'll be very close to each other this year, and they'll be very close to each other with growth in both areas next year. So if that's the kind of thing you're looking for,
Jon Feltheimer: Yeah, I think again, if you're trying to get sort of a broader perspective, I would say as we get past all of the strike related delays, you'll start looking at what has been a typical alliance gate portfolio of motion pictures around 10 to 12 wide releases, another 30 plus direct to video, multi-platform, etc, between television and film. I think you're going to see actually growth of both of the revenues of both of those business, and they're actually pretty equivalent.
Jimmy: Get past all of the strike-related delays. You'll start looking at what has been a typical Lions Gate portfolio of motion pictures, around 10 to 12 live releases, another 30-plus.
Jon Feltheimer: Between television and film, I think you're going to see actually growth of both of the revenues of both of those businesses, and they're actually pretty equivalent. They'll be very close to each other this year. They'll be very close to each other with growth in both areas next year. So if that's the kind of thing you're looking for, that's where to look, like from the macro level. Okay, yes.
Jimmy: Direct-to-video, multi-platform, etc. between television and film. I think you're going to see actually growth of both of the revenues of both of those businesses and they're actually pretty equivalent. They'll be very close to each other this year, they'll be very close to each other with growth in both areas next year. So if that's the kind of thing you're looking for, you know, that's, you know, that's what it'll look like from a macro level.
Jon Feltheimer: They'll be very close to each other this year. They'll be very close to each other with growth in both areas next year. So if that's the kind of thing you're looking for, that's where to look like from the macro level. Okay, yes.
Jeffrey Hirsch: Okay, yes. And one other thing, the STARS and Brickbox deal you mentioned sounded interesting. Are they basically trading content, some of the U.S. content, going to their platform and vice versa? And is that a template STARS might use to expand its franchise without actually having those international businesses that it started to go into and then backed out of?
Jeffrey Hirsch: And one other thing, the stars and Brickbox steel you mentioned, I thought some of interesting. Are they basically creating content to some of the US content going to their platform and vice versa, and is that a template stars might use to expand its franchise without actually having those international businesses that it started to go into and then backed out of?
Jeffrey Hirsch: And one other thing, the stars and brickbox steel you mentioned, I thought some of interesting. Are they basically creating content to some of the US content going to their platform and vice versa and is that a template stars might use to expand its franchise without actually having those international businesses that it started to go into and then backed out of? Hi, it's Jeff. We're really excited about this partnership. Obviously, we focus on two core demos and brickbox and stars really overlap in their programming and those two core demos.
Speaker Change: Okay, yes. And one other thing, the STARS and BritBox deal you mentioned, I thought sounded interesting.
Jon: are, are....
Speaker Change: Are they basically trading content, some of the U.S. content, going to their platform and vice versa, and is that a template?
Speaker Change: Stars might use to expand its franchise without actually having those international businesses that it started to go into and then backed out of.
Jeffrey Hirsch: Hi, it's Jeff. We're really excited about this partnership. Obviously, we focus on two-core demos, and BritBox and STARS really overlap in their programming for those two-core demos, and we've been able to use, I would say, world-class technology out of our group in Denver and our tech stack in our app to actually build this offering through the STARS app, through STARS.com, in a very simple and frictionless way for the consumer to put both products together.
Jeffrey Hirsch: Hi, it's Jeff. We're really excited about this partnership. Obviously, we focus on two core demos, and Brickbox and Stars really overlap in their programming and those two core demos. And we've been able to use, I would say, a world-class tech out of our group in Denver and our tech tech and our app to actually build this offering through the Stars app, through stars.com and a very simple and frictionless way for the consumer to put both products together. It's also a way to get more content that both of our consumers want together, and so we will look to do more of that with our technology.
Jimmy: Hi, it's Jeff. We're really excited about this partnership. Obviously, we focus on two-chord demos and BritBox and SARS.
Jeffrey Hirsch: And we've been able to use, I would say, a world-class tech out of our group in Denver and our tech tech and our app to actually build this offering through the stars app through stars.com. And a very simple and frictionless way for the consumer to put both products together. It's also a way to get more content that both of our consumers want together. And so we will look to do more of that with our technology, we're having conversations with other players that align with our programming strategy to really build out the portfolio and to drive, turn down and make the whole business better for both of us. Okay, thanks very much. Thanks, Jim.
Jimmy: really overlap in their programming in those two core demos and we've been able to use
Speaker Change: I would say a world-class tech out of our group in Denver and our tech stack and our app.
Speaker Change: to actually build this offering through the STARS app, through STARS.com, and a very...
Jeffrey Hirsch: It's also a way to get more content that both of our consumers want together, and so we will look to do more of that with our technology. We're having conversations with other players that align with our programming strategy to really build out the portfolio and to drive churn down and make the whole business better for both of us.
Jimmy: Simple and frictionless way for the consumer to put both products together.
Jimmy: It's also a way to get more content that both of our consumers want together, and so we will look to do more of that with our technology. We're having conversations with other players that align with our programming strategy to really build out the portfolio and to drive churn down and make the whole business better for both of us.
Operator: We're having conversations with other players that align with our programming strategy to really build out the portfolio and to drive churn down and make the whole business better for both of us. Okay, thanks very much. Thanks, Jim.
Operator: Okay, thanks very much.
Operator: Thanks, Jim. Operator, could we get the last question, please?
Jimmy: yeah
Matthew Hergen: Operator, could we get the last question, please? Last question comes from Matthew Hergen with Benchmark. Please go ahead. Thank you. It's great that you got so much content that's readily adaptable and even has been still been pulled for video games, maybe even AR over a period of time. And certainly one of the growth businesses within media. But it could be a difficult business. I know some studios, you know, such as Star Wars example, have had issues working with publishers.
Operator: Operator, could we get the last question, please?
Speaker Change: Okay, thanks very much.
Operator: The last question comes from Matthew Harrigan with Benchmark. Please go ahead.
Matthew Harrigan: Last question comes from Matthew Hergan with benchmark. Please go ahead. Oh, thank you. It's great that you got so much content that's readily adaptable and even has some built-in pull demand for video games and maybe even AR over a period of time. And certainly one of the growth businesses within media. But it could be a difficult business. I know some studios, you know, think the Star Wars example have had issues working with publishers.
Speaker Change: Thanks, Jim. Operator, could we get the last question, please?
Speaker Change: The last question comes from Matthew Harrigan with Benchmark. Please go ahead.
Matthew Harrigan: Oh, thank you. It's great that you have so much content that's readily adaptable and even has some built-in pull demand for video games, maybe even AR over a period of time. And it's certainly one of the growth businesses within media, but it can be a difficult business. I know some studios, you know, take the Star Wars example, have had issues working with publishers. How engaged are you in the creative process, you know, for the Hunger Games game to make sure that it's up to, you know, Lions Gate quality?
Matthew Harrigan: Thank you. It's great that you've got so much content that's readily adaptable and even has some built-in pull demand for video games and maybe even AR over a period of time. And it's certainly one of the growth businesses within media, but it can be a difficult business. I know some studios, you know, such as Star Wars, for example, have had issues.
Adam Fogelson: How engaged are you in the creative process, you know, for the hunter game game to make sure that it's up to, you know, Lion's Gate quality. And are you also looking more at mobile games and free games because there's also a lot of interest in that area. I just like to get your observations on the learning curve so far and what you're finding. Thank you. Sure, no, happy to. This is Adam. I appreciate the question. I would say importantly, our creative team is deeply involved in the creative process. More importantly, the filmmakers that we've worked with to generate these great franchises are completely involved and partnered with us in making sure that we are delivering games and experiences that reflect the true creative essence of the franchises that we've built.
Adam Fogelson: How engaged are you in the creative process, you know, for the 100 games game to make sure that it's up to, you know, Lionsgate quality. And are you also looking more at mobile games and three games because there's also a lot of interest in that in that area. I just like to get your observations on the learning curve so far and what you're finding. Thank you. Sure. No, happy to. This is Adam.
Speaker Change: working with publishers. How engaged are you in the creative process, you know, for the Hunger Games game to make sure that it's up to, you know, Lions Gate quality? And are you also looking more at mobile games and free games? Because there's also a lot of interest in that area.
Matthew Harrigan: And are you also looking more at mobile games and free games, because there's also a lot of interest in that area? I'd just like to get your observations on the learning curve so far and what you're finding. Thank you. Sure. No, happy.
Adam Fogelson: Sure. No, happy to. This is Adam.
Speaker Change: Get your observations on the learning curve so far and what you're finding. Thank you.
Adam Fogelson: I appreciate the question. I would say, importantly, that our creative team is deeply involved in the creative process. More importantly, the filmmakers that we've worked with to generate these great franchises are completely involved and partnered with us to make sure that we are delivering games and experiences that reflect the true creative essence of the franchises that we've built. So this is not something we're doing without those partners. It's something we're doing with them.
Adam Fogelson: I appreciate the question. I would say importantly, our creative team is deeply involved in the creative process. More importantly, the filmmakers that we've worked with to generate these great franchises are completely involved and partnered with us in making sure that we are delivering games and experiences that reflect the true creative essence of the franchises that we've built. So this is not something we're doing without those partners. It's something we're doing with them.
Adam: Sure. No, happy to. This is Adam. I appreciate the question. I would say, importantly, our creative team is deeply involved in the creative process. More importantly, the filmmakers that we've worked with to generate these great franchises.
Jimmy: are completely involved and partnered with us in making sure that we are delivering games and experiences that reflect the true creative essence of the franchises that we've built. So this is not something we're doing without those partners, it's something we're doing with them. And we've got, in literally every case, across every platform and yes, we're absolutely working on with mobile games as well, the John Wick franchise lens itself.
Adam Fogelson: So this is not something we're doing without those partners; it is something we're doing with them. And we've got in literally every case across every platform. And yes, we're absolutely working on with mobile games as well. The John Wick franchise lends itself to experiences and opportunities across the broadest possible spectrum in each and every case. We have the ability to make decisions whether they're licensing deals or investment deals, so that we are making sure that we're using our capital where we believe it fits with our expertise and where it makes the most sense fitting into the overall portfolio of how we're spending our money.
Adam Fogelson: And we've got in literally every case across every platform. And yes, we're absolutely working on with mobile games as well. The John Wick franchise lends itself to experiences and opportunities across the broadest possible spectrum. In each and every case, we have the ability to make decisions, whether they're licensing deals or investment deals, so that we are making sure that we're using our capital where we believe it fits with our expertise and where it makes the most sense fitting into the overall portfolio of how we're spending our money.
Adam Fogelson: And we've got, in literally every case, across every platform, and yes, we're absolutely working on mobile games as well. The John Wick franchise lends itself to experiences and opportunities across the broadest possible spectrum. In each and every case, we have the ability to make decisions, whether they're licensing deals or investment deals, so that we are making sure that we're using our capital where we believe it fits with our expertise and where it makes the most sense to fit into the overall portfolio of how we're spending our money.
Jimmy: to experiences and opportunities across the broadest possible spectrum in each and every case.
Jimmy: We have the ability to make decisions, whether they're licensing deals or investment deals, so that we are making sure that we're using our capital where we believe it fits with our expertise and where it makes the most sense fitting into the overall portfolio of how we're spending our money. But our creative partners are fully engaged with us, and I will tell you that the things we've seen across games, across stage, and across live experiences, from a creative standpoint, are really exciting to us and to the filmmaking partners that we're working with.
Adam Fogelson: But our creative partners are fully engaged with us, and I will tell you that the things we've seen across games, across stage, and across live experiences from a creative standpoint are really exciting to us and to the filmmaking partners that we're working with.
Adam Fogelson: But our creative partners are fully engaged with us. And I will tell you that the things we've seen across games, across stage, and across live experiences from a creative standpoint are really exciting to us and to the filmmaking partners that we're working with. Great. Thank you. Thanks everyone. Please refer to the specializes in events tab under the Investor Relations section of each company's website for discussion of certain non-GAAP forward-looking measures discussed on this call. Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day. Thank you.
Adam Fogelson: But our creative partners are fully engaged with us. And I will tell you that the things we've seen across games, across stage, and across live experiences from a creative standpoint are really exciting to us and to the filmmaking partners that we're working with. Thank you.
Operator: Thanks, everyone. Please refer to the Select Releases and Events tab under the Investor Relations section of each company's website for a discussion of certain non-GAAP forward-looking measures discussed on this call. Thank you.
Operator: Thanks everyone. Please refer to the specializes in events tab under the Invest Relations section of each company's website for discussion of certain non-gap forward looking measures discussed on this call. Thank you.
Jimmy: Great, thank you.
Speaker Change: Thanks everyone. Please refer to the Select Releases and Events tab under the investor relations section of each company's website for discussion of certain non-GAAP forward-looking measures discussed on this call. Thank you.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.
Speaker Change: This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.
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