Q2 2024 Sanara MedTech Inc Earnings Call

Greetings. Welcome to the Sonara MedTech, Inc. second quarter results and business updates.

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Speaker Change: I will now turn the conference over to your host, Callon Nichols, Director of Investor Relations at Sonara MedTech. Callon, you may begin.

Callon Nichols: Thank you, and good morning, everyone. I'd like to welcome you to Cinera MedTech's earnings conference call for the quarter ended June 30th, 2024.

Speaker Change: We issued our earnings release yesterday morning, and I would like to highlight that we have posted today's deck on the Investor Relations page of our website.

Speaker Change: This supplemental deck, as well as a copy of the earnings release and Form 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2024, are also available on this page. We will reference this information in our remarks today.

Speaker Change: With us today are Ron Nixon, our Executive Chairman and CEO, Mike McNeil, our Chief Financial Officer, Seth Yon, our President of Commercial, Jake Waldrop, our Chief Operating Officer, and Sam Bupala, who leads Tissue Health Plus.

Speaker Change: Please note that certain statements in this conference call and our press release and our supplemental deck include forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Speaker Change: For more information about the risk and uncertainties involving forward-looking statements and factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected or implied by forward-looking statements,

Speaker Change: Please see the risk factors set forth in our most recent annual report on Form 10-K, as supplemented by the risk factors in our most recent quarterly report on Form 10-Q.

Speaker Change: Also, this conference call, our earnings release, and our supplemental deck reference certain non-GAAP measures. In that regard, I direct you to the reconciliation of these measures in the earnings materials that are available on our website. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Ron Nixon.

Ron Nixon: Thank you Callon and good morning everyone. During the second quarter of 2024, the company generated 20.2 million in revenue. This is our 11th consecutive record revenue quarter.

Speaker Change: I'd like to take a moment to recognize our entire team, including surgical sales, clinical, R&D, customer service, marketing, and finance, who continue to do an outstanding job contributing to our record growth strategy.

Speaker Change: In the second quarter, Scenario generated a net loss of $3.5 million.

Speaker Change: and positive adjusted EBITDA of $600,000.

Speaker Change: Yesterdibida is net of expenses that we view as non-core in our operations including $900,000 of separation costs related to our former CEO as well as $400,000 in legal and diligence expenses for prospective acquisitions and partnerships.

Speaker Change: Prior periods have been recast in our earnings press release to reflect this change in how we calculated just the DBADA.

Speaker Change: Mike will go into this in more detail, but in Q2, we began reporting additional financial performance metrics of our surgical business and tissue health plus segment as separate segments.

Speaker Change: that we could account for. Following the recent change in our CEO position, this transition to segment reporting better aligns with how I view the business.

Mike: Our surgical segment generated a $2.2 million net loss in the second quarter and a $2.7 million net loss in the first half of 2024.

Mike: On a segmented EBITDA basis, the surgical segment generated $1.4 million and $2.5 million of segmented EBITDA during the second quarter and first half of 2024, respectively.

Speaker Change: We continue to see strong growth opportunities for both segments, which Seth and Sam will continue to discuss in further detail shortly during the second half of 2024.

Speaker Change: We expect to invest an additional $4 to $5 million to build up the THP strategy in anticipation of a commercial launch.

Speaker Change: in the second half of 2025, which Sam will detail later in the presentation. I'll now turn it over to Seth to discuss our surgical business results and momentum in that segment.

Seth: Thanks, Ron. As of the end of the second quarter, our products have been sold in over 1,100 hospitals and ASCs across 34 states and the District of Columbia in the trailing 12 months, and were approved to be sold in more than 4,000 facilities in total.

Seth: We currently have selling agreements with over 300 distributors representing 2,500 plus potential sellers.

Seth: Looking at the growth of the territories and facilities in which we sell, in Q2 our products were sold into over 800 facilities compared to over 600 facilities in the second quarter of 2023.

Seth: Sales of our soft tissue products grew from $13.2 million in the second quarter of 2023 to $17.6 million in the second quarter of 2024. Sales of bone fusion products were flat at $2.5 million for the same quarter-over-quarter period in 2023.

Seth: I'd now like to discuss some of the key opportunities for growth that we believe will continue to drive our future performance.

Seth: In the second quarter we signed a contract with a national GPO that added over a thousand facilities where our products are contracted or approved to be sold. Our team is working to generate sales in those new facilities. We're also working to future or further penetrate the existing facilities where our products are sold.

Seth: As we have discussed before, we are also focused on expanding usage outside of our traditional specialty focus in ortho and spine.

Seth: We see a significant use case and value proposition in the trauma, vascular, and general surgery markets and are working diligently to expand into our use products into those areas.

Seth: In addition to our organic growth, we are regularly evaluating opportunities for surgical M&A and partnership opportunities. Our management team sees synergistic potential transactions as a key growth driver that complements our strong organic growth strategy.

Jake Walter: I'd now like to introduce Jake Walter, our new COO, to give a brief overview of some of the key initiatives he's been working on since joining us in April.

Jake Walter: Thank you, Seth.

Jake Walter: Good morning everyone. The key focus of our operations team has been to centralize ownership and accountability across all aspects of our customer support, product fulfillment, and underlying IT system infrastructure.

Speaker Change: This strategy includes building out an IT roadmap focused on workflow automation and digital support for our next phase of growth.

Speaker Change: On the sales operations side, we're implementing plans to efficiently scale our customer service team and simplify the selling process for both internal and external sales representatives.

Speaker Change: The significant growth experienced by the company, Scenario is working to separate and streamline its shipping and fulfillment operations to allow customer service to focus on best-of-class sales support.

Speaker Change: Our supply chain is also a key part of this strategy, and we have reorganized.

Speaker Change: our supply chain function to facilitate smooth and consistent operations across each of our product lines.

Speaker Change: With that, I will now turn it over to Sam to discuss more on our plans with TissueHealth Plus.

Sam: Thank you, Jake. Good morning, everybody. As we discussed before, non-surgical wound care is ripe for destruction.

Sam: By non-surgical wound care, we are referring to the wound care spent outside of surgical settings.

Sam: This expenditure of roughly $100 billion per year in the U.S. includes treatment services, corresponding medtech products, and enabling diagnostic tools. Despite its large spend, the wound healing rate is estimated to be only 40 to 66 percent.

Sam: and the five-year mortality rate for a diabetic foot ulcer is 30%, roughly the same as cancer.

Sam: Moreover, 15% of the population over the age of 65 has a chronic non-healing wound.

Sam: Sixty-nine million dollars of this expenditure occurs in hospital, hospital inpatient or hospital adjacent wound centers, which is the highest cost setting.

Sam: $35 billion is estimated to be either preventable or overused.

Speaker Change: THP is targeting this under-managed expenditure with the goal of generating hospital-based savings for payers and other risk-bearing entities.

Speaker Change: We plan to orchestrate the delivery of high-touch, comprehensive wound care at home and in community settings such as physician offices and skilled nursing homes.

Speaker Change: Our program aligns payers, patients, and providers to deliver compelling value.

Speaker Change: THP's value-based care program is built on a science-driven, first-of-its-kind care model that integrates prevention, treatment, and maintenance of wounds.

Speaker Change: A THC patient's journey starts with a targeted outreach from an assigned care navigator from our Virtual Care Coordination Center, the Care Hub. From that point on, our care navigator will be a consistent guide for all their wound care needs.

Speaker Change: THP Care Navigators will leverage a unique mix of education, engagement, and transparency to increase patients' care plan adherence.

Speaker Change: Our value proposition to patients is simple, prevent wounds, at least 25%, detect them early, and improve the healing rates to 90%.

Speaker Change: An open, third-party network will largely be our boots on the ground, implementing our care interventions.

Speaker Change: We expect that THP's state-of-the-art wound assessment software as a service medical device, along with the groundbreaking real-time EMR-integrated clinical decision support, will enable our network partners to deliver transformative wound care.

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Speaker Change: We plan to enable higher EBITDA patient and counter revenue for our network partners along with enabling new revenue streams such as patient monitoring.

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Speaker Change: Lastly, we expect our payer customers will benefit from the accrual of THP generated savings in the range to 2x to 5x of THP fees while alleviating a major quality of life issue for their members.

Callon Nichols: I will now turn the conference over to your host, Callon Nichols, Director of Investor Relations at Sanara Mettech. Callon to Sanara Mettech's earnings conference call for the quarter-ended June 30th, 2024. We issued our earnings release yesterday morning, and I would like to highlight that we've posted today's deck on the Investor Relations page of our website. This supplemental deck, as well as a copy of the earnings release, and form 10Q for the quarter-ended June 30th, 2024, are also available on this page.

Speaker Change: We are currently focused on finishing the build phase and plan to launch a pilot in the first quarter of 2025.

Speaker Change: Based on comparable specialty VBC programs and the industry spend in wound care, the scope of THP's contract for one single citywide market is likely to be in multiple millions.

Callon Nichols: We will reference this information on our remarks today. With us today, Ron Nixon, our Executive Chairman, CEO, Mike McNeil, our Chief Financial Officer, Seth Yon, our President and Commercial, Jake Waldrop, our Chief Operating Officer, and Sam Papala, who leads tissue health plus.

Speaker Change: We are also exploring selecting strategic supply partnerships to de-risk execution. I would now like to turn over to Mike to discuss our financial results in more detail.

Mike: Thank you, Sam. During the second quarter, SNARE generated net revenue of $20.2 million compared to $15.8 during the second quarter of 2023, a 28% increase over the prior year period.

Callon Nichols: Please note that certain statements in this conference call and our press release and our supplemental deck include four looking statements within the meaning of the private security litigation reform act of 1995. For more information about the risk and uncertainties involving four looking statements, and factors that could cause actual results to different materially from those projected or implied by four looking statements, please see the risk factor set forth in our most recent annual report on Form 10K, as supplemented by the risk factors in our most recent quarterly report on Form 10Q. Also, this conference call, our earnings release, and our supplemental deck, reference certain non-gap measures. In that regard, I direct you to the reconciliation of these measures and the earnings materials that are available on our website.

Mike: The higher revenue in Q2 was primarily due to increased sales of soft tissue repair products, including Celerate RX, as a result of our increased market penetration, geographic expansion, and our continuing strategy to expand our distribution network in both new and existing U.S. markets.

Mike: SG&A expenses for the second quarter were $19 million, compared to $13.8 million for the same period in 2023. SG&A expenses included $0.6 million and $0.5 million attributable to our Tissue Health Plus segment for the quarters ended June 30, 2024 and 2023, respectively.

Mike: The higher SG&A expenses in Q2 of 2024 were primarily due to higher direct sales and marketing expenses, which accounted for approximately $3.4 million of the increase compared to prior year.

Ron Nixon: Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Ron Nixon. Thank you, Kellyn, and good morning, everyone. During the second quarter of 2024, the company generated 20.2 million in revenue. This is our 11th consecutive record revenue quarter. I'd like to take a moment to recognize our entire team, including surgical sales, clinical, R&D, customer service, marketing, and finance who continued to do an absent job contributing to our record growth strategy. In the second quarter, scenarios generated a net loss of 3.5 million and positive adjusted EBITDA of 600,000.

Mike: SG&A expenses during the second quarter of 24 also included $0.9 million of executive separation costs and $0.4 million of legal and diligence expenses related to prospective acquisitions and partnerships.

Mike: R&D expenses for the three months into June 30, 2024 were $1 million compared to $1.2 million during the same period in 2023. R&D expenses included $0.4 million and $1.0 million attributable to our tissue health plus segment for the quarters into June 30, 2024 and 2023, respectively.

Mike: The lower R&D expenses in 2024 were primarily due to lower costs associated with the Precision Healing Diagnostic Imager and LFA.

Ron Nixon: The adjusted EBITDA is net of expenses that we do as non-cool in our operations, including $900,000 of separation costs related to our former CEO, as well as $400,000 in legal and diligence expenses for prospective acquisitions and partnerships. Prior period had been recast in our earnings press release to reflect this change and how we calculated adjusted EBITDA. Michael, go into this in more detail, but in Q2, we began reporting additional financial performance metrics of our surgical business and tissue health plus segment as separate segments that we could account for.

Mike: Depreciation and amortization expenses for the quarter ended June 30, 2024 were $1.1 million compared to $0.8 million for the same period in 2023.

Mike: The higher depreciation and amortization expenses in 2024 were due to amortization of the tangible assets acquired from applied nutritionals in August of 2023.

Mike: Interest expense was $0.6 million for the quarter ended June 30th compared to zero in 2023. The higher interest expense in 2024 was primarily related to our new term loan with CRG.

Mike: Scenario had a net loss of $3.5 million for the second quarter of 2024 compared to a net loss of $1.9 million for the same period in 2023. The net loss included $1.3 million and $2.0 million attributable to our tissue health plus segment for the quarters into June 30, 2024 and 2023, respectively.

Ron Nixon: Following the recent change in our CEO position, this transition to segment reporting better in lines with how I view the business. Our surgical segment generated a $2.2 million net loss in the second quarter and a $2.7 million net loss in the first half of 2024. On a segmented EBITDA basis, the surgical segment generated $1.4 million and $2.5 million of segmented EBITDA during the second quarter and first half of 2024 respectively. We continue to see strong growth opportunities for both segments, which Seth and Sam will continue.

Mike: The higher net loss for the second quarter of 2024 is primarily due to higher SG&A costs, higher interest expense related to our new CRG term loan, lower change in fair value of earn out liabilities, and higher amortization of our acquired intangible assets partially offset by higher gross profit and R&D expenses.

Mike: Our cash balance at the end of the quarter was $6.2 million.

Mike: As Ron mentioned earlier, in order to better inform the investor community of our strategic rationale of the acute and post-acute comprehensive strategy investments, we will be breaking out the financial results of our two operating segments, Scenario Surgical and Tissue Health Plus.

Ron Nixon: We'll discuss in further detail shortly. You're in the second half of 2024, we expect to invest in additional $4 to $5 million to build out the THP strategy and anticipation of a commercial launch in the second half of 2025, which Sam will detail later in the presentation.

Ron Nixon: Net of expenses we believe to be non-core to our operations, we generated consolidated adjusted EBITDA of $0.6 million and $0.9 million.

Ron Nixon: during the three and six months into June 30th, respectively.

Ron Nixon: Our Scenario Surgical segment generated positive segment EBITDA of $1.4 million during the second quarter of 2024 and $2.5 million during the six months into June 30, 2024.

Seth Yon: I'll now turn it over to Seth to discuss our surgical business results and momentum in that segment. Thanks, Ron. As at the end of the second quarter, our products have been sold in over 1,100 hospitals and ASCs across 34 states, and the district of Columbia in the trailing 12 months, and we're approved to be sold in more than 4,000 facilities in total. We currently have selling agreements with over 300 distributors representing 2,500 plus potential sellers, looking at the growth of the territories and facilities in which we sell, and Q2, our products were sold until over 800 facilities compared to over 600 facilities in the second quarter of 2023.

Ron Nixon: Tissue Health Plus generated negative segment EBITDA of 0.8 million during Q2 and negative 1.6 million during the six months into June 30, 2024.

Ron Nixon: All corporate and overhead expenses are included in the Scenera Surgical Segment, as substantially all these costs relate to supporting the operations and activities of the Surgical Segment. Scenera Surgical also includes our in-house research and development team, Rochelle Technologies.

Ron Nixon: As Ron mentioned earlier, we plan to invest another $4-5 million to further the tissue health plus strategy during the second half of 2024.

Speaker Change: As we discussed in our last call, we closed a new $55 million debt facility with CRG during the second quarter. This transaction helped us strengthen our cash position and provided access to capital in a way that was non-dilutive to equity holders.

Seth Yon: Sales of our soft tissue products grew from $13.2 million in the second quarter of 2023 to $17.6 million in the second quarter of 2024. Sales of bone fusion products were flat at $2.5 million for the same quarter over quarter period in 2023.

Speaker Change: The term loan is structured as a senior secured loan with a five-year term. In addition to the $15 million drawn at close, we may draw an additional $39.8 million before June 30, 2025. This facility provides us access to capital for accretive transactions and general working capital purposes.

Seth Yon: I'd now like to discuss some of the key opportunities for growth that we believe will continue to drive our future performance. In the second quarter, we signed a contract with a national GPO that added over 1,000 facilities, where our products are contracted or approved to be sold. Our team is working to generate sales in those new facilities, while also working to future or further penetrate the existing facilities where our products are sold.

Speaker Change: I will now turn it over to Ron for closing comments.

Ron Nixon: Thanks, Mike. We continue to execute on our strategy both.

Ron Nixon: in Surgical and Post-Acute Wound Care Value-Based Strategy. Our surgical team is generating positive adjusted EBITDA and we expect to see continued improvement in operating results.

Seth Yon: As we have discussed before, we are also focused on expanding usage outside of our traditional specialty focus in Portland Spine. We see a significant use case in value proposition in the trauma, vascular, and general surgery markets, and are working diligently to expand into our use products into those areas. In addition to our organic growth, we are regularly evaluating opportunities for surgical and an A in partnership opportunities. Our management teams see synergistic potential transactions as a key growth driver that complement our strong organic growth strategy.

Ron Nixon: while executing on the growth plan and market expansion. As discussed, we see a significant opportunity to disrupt the post-acute wound care market with our value-based strategy and anticipate a 2025 commercial launch. Operator, I'd now like to open the line for questions.

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Jake Waldrop: I'd now like to introduce Jake Walter, our new COO to give a brief overview of some of the key initiatives he's been working on since joining us in April. Thank you, Seth. Good morning, everyone. The key focus of our operations team has been the centralized ownership and accountability across all aspects of our customer support, product fulfillment, and underlying IT system infrastructure. The strategy includes building out an IT roadmap focus on workflow automation and digital support for our next phase of growth.

Speaker Change: Please hold while we poll for questions.

Speaker Change: The first question today is coming from Ross Osborne from Fitzgerald. Ross, your line is live.

Ross Osborne: Hey guys, congrats on another record quarter. Thanks for taking our questions.

Ross Osborne: So starting off, you know, there's been a lot of disruption in the chronic wound space with regards to reimbursement causing some confusion. Any thoughts on the market broadly? And could you provide some more color on the diagnostic front of THP, especially given that I believe you're targeting the home care space?

Jake Waldrop: On the failed operations side, we're implementing plans to efficiently scale our customer service team and simplify the selling process for both internal and external sales representatives. The significant growth experience by the company scenario is working to separate extreme line-shipping and fulfillment operations to allow customer service to focus on the best of class sales.

Ross Osborne: Yeah, Ross this is Ron and I'm assuming that you're talking about the disruption is around the CTPs

Jake Waldrop: Osborn. Our supply chain is also the key part of the strategy, and we have reorganized our supply chain functions to facilitate smooth and consistent operations across each of our product lines.

Ross Osborne: and the use of CTPs and the fact that the number of those are not being reimbursed today. But for the broader question, I'm going to turn it over to Sam. And Sam, if you want to address that, that would be great.

Sam Papala: With that, I will now turn it over to Sam to discuss more on our plans with the issue of blood. Thank you, Jake.

Sam Papala: Good morning, everybody. As we discussed before, non-surgical wound care is ripe for disruption. By non-surgical wound care, we are referring to the wound care spent outside of surgical settings. This expenditure of roughly $100 million per year in the US includes treatment services, corresponding metacronuts, and enabling diagnostic tools. Despite this large spend, the wound healing rate is estimated to be only 40 to 66 percent, and a five-year mortality rate for a diabetic foot ulcer is 30 percent roughly the same as cancer.

Sam: Thank you, Ron. In terms of the disruption in the chronic wound care space, especially the TTP, that is something we are factoring into our strategy. As we discussed before, our strategy is to generate savings and mostly hospital-based savings.

Sam: So the direction CMS and the payers are moving in is very congruent with where we're going.

Sam: In terms of the diagnostic device, one of the key things which we looked at when we were putting together the THP strategy was how do you make these diagnostic devices

Sam Papala: More over 15 percent of the population over the age of 65 has a chronic non-healing wound. $69 million of this expenditure occurs in hospital, the hospital in patient or hospital adjacent wound centers, which is the highest cost setting. $35 million is estimated to be either preventable or overuse. THB is targeting this under-managed expenditure with the goal of generating hospital-based savings for payers and other risk-bearing entities. We plan to orchestrate the delivery of high-touch, comprehensive wound care at home, and in community settings, such as physician offices and skilled nursing homes.

Sam: scalable in cost, and also something which can be used across multiple settings and multiple levels of clinicians. So, as we come out with that, you will see that that's the key aim we have actually achieved.

Speaker Change: Okay, got it. And then, switching to your partnership with Tufts, any color you can provide on the corporation timeline of the peptides that decelerate our eggs.

Speaker Change: You know we've got a we've got several

Ross Osborne: various activities going on right now with the 18 peptides that you're referring to. We're obviously not going to take on all 18 at one time, but we have taken on and are selecting certain ones that you'll be hearing more about in the near term, Ross.

Sam Papala: Our program aligns payers, patients, and providers to deliver compelling value. THB's value-based program is built on a science children, both of its kinds, care model that integrates prevention, treatment, and maintenance of wounds. A THB patient journey starts with a targeted outreach from an assigned care navigator from a virtual care coordination center, the care hub. From that point on, our care navigator will be a consistent guide for all their wound care needs.

Ross Osborne: Okay, great. And then, lastly, could you walk through the game plan for targeting your new adjacent markets you called out, such as trauma? What are the key steps there to driving adoption? Do you need to generate more data? Is it more such a factor of knocking on doors? Any color would be helpful. Thank you.

Ross Osborne: Yeah, yeah, Seth, would you mind taking that please?

Seth: Sure, we'll continue to expand with the right distribution partners in those spaces as well alongside of even looking at other partnership opportunities as well to expand into those unique specialties.

Sam Papala: THB care navigators leverage a unique mix of education, engagement, and transparency to increase patient care planning gains. Our value proposition to patients is simple. Prevent wounds, at least 25%, detect them early, and improve the healing rates to 90%. An open third-party network will largely be our boots on the ground, implementing our care interventions. We expect that THB state-of-the-art wound assessment software as a service medical device, along with the groundbreaking real-time EMR-integrated clinical decision support will enable our network partners to deliver transumative wound care.

Seth: So that will be a focus. In addition to that, we've also hired some specialists as well that are focused specifically into the bone space as well. We think that that can be a great complement to get into some of those additional specialties.

Seth: Okay, great. Thanks for taking our questions. You're going to have to get another strong order. Yeah, thank you, Ross.

Speaker Change: Thank you. The next question will be from Chris Plum from Tall Pines Capital. Chris, your line is live.

Chris Plum: Morning, guys.

Chris Plum: Morning Chris. Two questions. One, with the new GPO deal, does that cause a shift in strategy to go after the 3,000 approved?

Sam Papala: We plan to enable higher EBITDA patient and counter revenue for our network partners, along with enabling new revenue streams such as patient monitoring. Lastly, we expect our pair customers will benefit from the cruel of THB-generated savings in the range to 2X to 5X of THB fees, while alleviating a major quality of life issue for their Williams. We are currently focused on finishing the build phase and plan to launch a pilot in the first quarter of 2025. Based on comparable specialty BBC programs and the industry spending won't care, the scope of THB's contract for one single CDY market is likely to be in multiple millions.

Chris Plum: that aren't sold into, and then also if we can get a little more color update on file search progress since launch.

Chris Plum: yeah

Speaker Change: Seth, why don't you take both of those, if you would, please?

Seth: Yet we'll continue to look to expand both at a local level and a national level to gain access into these facilities so that that you know progress won't change that approach won't change for us as far as having access at both a local IDM level and also at a national GPO level we've done that with great success which obviously allows us a faster track to success but also the attraction that it brings to great distribution partners that's a wonderful thing for us as well

Speaker Change: So that's one. The second question, again, was specific to what? Could you ask that again?

Sam Papala: We are also exploring selecting strategic supply partnerships to use execution.

Seth: to Biosurge.

Seth: Just how that's going, Seth Yon.

Speaker Change: Sure, sure. We had a soft launch of Biosurge in the late fourth quarter of 2023. It's really started to pick up and carry some momentum, not only on a contracting side, but again, as a sales organization, we're looking at that as a facility-level conversation, not just a surgeon-level conversation.

Michael McNeil: I would now like to turn over to Mike to discuss our financial results in more detail. Thank you, Sam. During the second quarter, Sinara generated net revenue of 20.2 million compared to 15.8 during the second quarter of 2023. At 28%, 28% increase over the prior year period. The higher revenue in Q2 was primarily due to increased sales of soft tissue repair products, including Celerate RX as a result of our increased market penetration, geographic expansion, and our continuing strategy to expand our distribution network in both new and existing US markets.

Speaker Change: We're really happy with the progress being made Specifically through the second quarter with the growth of that product as well It's fit nicely into you know a top six product for us already and its overall performance and again really happy with the progress That's being made with that product

Seth Yon: Seth, why don't you tell Chris a little bit about the feedback also from the surgeons that have used it.

Michael McNeil: SGNA expenses for the second quarter were 19 million compared to 13.8 million for the same period in 2023. SGNA expenses included 0.6 million and 0.5 million attributable to our tissue health plus segment for the quarters ended June 30, 2024 and 2023 respectively. The higher SGNA expenses in Q2 of 2024 were primarily due to higher direct sales and marketing expenses, which accounted for approximately 3.4 million of the increase compared to prior year.

Seth Yon: Yeah, all the way around we've reached a number of different specialties and again, I think that's another piece that's complementary to us reaching into other specialties.

Seth Yon: Every single surgeon that's into the OR is using some type of wash and that allows us to expand into the trauma and the general and plastic spaces as such as well. But we've had wonderful feedback from everything from orthopedics into spine, vascular general in a very early window and really satisfied and happy with again the progress that's being made there in multiple specialties with that product.

Michael McNeil: SGNA expenses during the second quarter of 24 also included 0.9 million of executive separation costs and 0.4 million of legal and diligent expenses related to prospective acquisitions and partnerships. R&D expenses for the three months in the June 30, 2024 were 1 million compared to 1.2 million during the same period in 2023. R&D expenses included 0.4 million and 1.0 million, attributable to our tissue health plus segment for the quarters ended June 30, 2024 and 2023 respectively.

Speaker Change: Great. Thanks, guys.

Chris Plum: Thank you, Chris.

Speaker Change: Thank you and once again it is star one if you wish to ask a question on today's call. The next question is coming from Ian Castle from Micro Cap Club. Ian, your line is live.

Ian Castle: Thanks for bringing the whole team on. This is very beneficial. My first question maybe is kind of related to what Seth answered a few questions ago. I was curious if there's any color into why the Bone Fusion products specifically seem to, their growth has been stagnating in the last couple quarters.

Michael McNeil: The lower R&D expenses in 2024 were primarily due to lower cost associated with the precision healing diagnostic image or an LFA. The appreciation and amortization expenses for the quarter ended June 30, 2024 were 1.1 million compared to 0.8 million for the same period in 2023. The higher depreciation and amortization expenses in 2024 were due to amortization of the tangible assets acquired from applied nutritionals in August of 23. The interest expense was 0.6 million for the quarter ended June 30, compared to 0 in 2023.

Speaker Change: I'm sure I can answer that as well.

Speaker Change: So, I would say that part of that is an approval process, one, where maybe the access for products like SellerAids and Fortify and such have a little bit greater opportunity based upon the number of approvals.

Speaker Change: One of the ways that we're tackling not only that is at a national level and local, but we did just recently in the last 90 days, we've hired a few bone specialists as well that will be in different markets to help build that out in addition to the regional managers and distributors that we have today. We think that's a great complement to that space and to those markets and should start to see a rise coming out of it as a result of people being hyper-focused into that bone space.

Michael McNeil: The higher interest expense in 2024 was primarily due to our new term loan with CRG. So NERA had a net loss of 3.5 million for the second quarter of 2024, compared to a net loss of 1.9 million for the same period in 2023. The net loss included 1.3 million and 2.0 million, attributable to our tissue health plus segment for the quarters ended June 30, 2024 and 2023 respectively. The higher net loss of the second quarter was primarily due to higher SG&A costs, higher interest expense related to our new CRG term loan, lower change in fair value of earn out liabilities and higher amortization of our acquired intangible assets, partially offset by higher gross profit and R&D expenses. Our cash balance at the end of the quarter was 6.2 million.

Speaker Change: where as you can see from our performance, the performance has really been focused into that soft tissue space. So we think this is a great one-two punch for us in the second half of the year.

Speaker Change: Thanks, I appreciate that. And my next question would be for Sam, you know, what are the key areas you need to solidify to get ready for that Tissue Health Plus pilot in Q1 of 25?

Sam: Thank you, Ian. In terms of the key areas, there are three. The first is we are finishing the build-out of our technology platform.

Michael McNeil: As Ron mentioned earlier in order to better inform the investor community of our strategic rationale of the acute and post-acute comprehensive strategy investments, we will be breaking out the financial results of our two operating segments, scenario surgical and tissue health plus. Net of Expenses, we believe to be non-court of our operations. We generated consolidated the adjusted EBITDA of 0.6 million and 0.9 million during the three and six months into June 30th respectively.

Sam: The second is we are finishing off the buildout of our economic model and validating that both from economics, which we're putting in front of payers, as well as our network partners.

Sam: The third piece is really preparing education and onboarding assets for both onboarding our staff as well as our network partners.

Sam: Thank you. And maybe the last one for you, Ron. You know, I appreciate you breaking apart in the segment financials so we can...

Michael McNeil: Our scenario surgical segment generated positive segment EBITDA of 1.4 million during the second quarter of 2024 and 2.5 million during the six months into June 30th, 2024. Tissue Health Plus generated negative segment EBITDA of 0.8 million during Q2 and negative 1.6 million during the six months into June 30th, 2024. All corporate and overhead expenses are included in the scenario surgical segment as substantially all these costs relate to supporting operations and activities of the surgical segment. Scenario surgical also includes our in-house research and development team Rochelle technologies. As Ron mentioned earlier, we planned to invest another 4 to 5 million further the Tissue Health Plus strategy in the second half of 2024.

Sam: the

Ron Nixon: what Tissue Health Plus is doing for

Ron Nixon: are surgical, what is preventing you from being more profitable and surgical at your current run rate?

Ron Nixon: Yeah, that's a good question. So, Ian, quite frankly, you know, we set out from the very beginning

Speaker Change: with the launch of Celerate and then beyond adding additional products. We want to be a complete portfolio of products to be able to support.

Speaker Change: the surgeons for ancillary products that can help them in their surgery, so protect their work, make their work better.

Speaker Change: and we've done that successfully by adding our BioSurge to that along with Cellarate and our other products, both soft tissue and bone.

Michael McNeil: As we discussed in our last call, we close a new $55 million debt facility with CRJ during the second quarter. This transaction helped us strengthen our cash position and provided access to capital in a way that was non-deludive to equity holders. The term loan is structured as a senior secured loan with the five-year term.

Seth Yon: But we're not stopping there. We're going to continue as Seth talked about the, you know, the three new areas that we want to go after related to, you know, vascular and plastics in general and

Michael McNeil: In addition to the 15 million drawn at close, we made drawn additional $39.8 million before June 30th, 2025. This facility provides us access to capital for creative transactions and general working capital purposes.

Seth Yon: They may have different needs for us and we're constantly looking for what else we can either acquire or partner with others.

Ron Nixon: I will now turn it over to Ron for closing comments. Thanks, Mike. We continue to execute on our strategy both in surgical and post-acute wound care value-based strategy. Our surgical team is generating positive adjustity by dying. We expect to see continued improvement in operating results while executing on the growth plan and market expansion.

Ron Nixon: As discussed, we see a significant opportunity to disrupt the post-acute wound care market with our value-based strategy and anticipate a 20-25 commercial launch.

Seth Yon: And because of doing that and knowing where we want to go and how we want to get there through either these partnerships or acquisitions.

Seth Yon: We want to continue to build our infrastructure to support this organization you heard, so I wanted Jake on the call today.

Seth Yon: Jake came aboard and he's helping us to increase our efficiencies across everywhere.

Seth Yon: make sure that we can support a high-growth organization. And we're not interested in slowing down our growth to maximize profitability today. We believe we can maximize profitability as we move into the future just by getting fixed-cost leverage as we continue to add more and more to what we're doing today.

Unknown Executive: Operating, I'd now like to open the line for questions. Thank you.

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Seth Yon: So, I hope that answers your question, but that's the game plan and that's where we're headed and we've got a keen eye on a plan to profitability, increased profitability from where we are today.

Speaker Change: And maybe one last one to tag onto that, you know, it does look like your growth rate really bounced back, you know, from from late last year or middle last year, which is good to see, you know, was there anything kind of one time one time stocking order here in Q2 that made it more robust than it would have been under a normal sales cadence?

Ross Osborn: The first question today is coming from Ross Osborne from Fitzgerald. Ross, your line of life. Yes, I can grab some other record quarters. Thanks for taking our questions. Starting off, there's been a lot of disruption in chronic lung space with regards to reimbursement causing some confusion. Any thoughts on the market broadly? Did you provide some more color on the dinos, the diagnostic front of THB, especially given that I believe you're targeting the home care space?

Speaker Change: I don't, I don't believe so.

Mike: Mike, I can...

Mike: I can answer that as well. We had really steady incremental growth throughout the entire quarter. It wasn't a shot in the arm, you know, type of order or big stocking orders or things like that, that kind of inflated the number. That did not occur in the second quarter and really happy from, you know, April and the growth inside of April to May and it just continued to climb. So I would say that the progress was really, really strong overall and it wasn't a result of just a one-time order.

Ross Osborn: Yeah, Ross, this is Ron, and I'm assuming that you're talking about the disruption is around the CTPs and the use of CTPs and the fact that the number of those are not being reimbursed today. But for the broader question, I'm going to turn it over to Sam. Sam, if you want to address that, that would be great. Thank you, Ron. In terms of the disruption in the chronic wound scare space, Christopher T2P, that is something we are factoring into our strategy, as we discussed before, our strategies to generate savings and mostly hospital-based savings.

Mike: Yeah, yeah. And I think I misunderstood your question, Ian. Sorry about that. No, that's okay. Thanks. I appreciate it.

Speaker Change: Thank you. And the next question will be from John Sidoff from Twin Oaks Equity LLC.

Speaker Change: John, your line is live.

John Sidoff: Thanks. Ron and Mike, congratulations guys on the continued growth. I mean that's to be an 80 million dollar run rate is fantastic. You guys have done a great job over the last five years. Congratulations.

Ross Osborn: So, the direction CMS and the pairs are moving in is where Congo and Turkey are going. In terms of the diagnostic device, one of the key things which we looked at when we were putting to the T2P strategy was how do you make this diagnostic device scalable and cost and also something which can be used across multiple setting and multiple levels of conditions. So, as we come out with that, we will see that that's the key thing we have actually achieved.

Speaker Change: Thank you, John.

Speaker Change: to grow a company and the cash that you need for that. And I see that you've gotten a new facility. And I certainly like that because you can't run out of money. Ron, do you foresee when, is there like a certain number that you're, I know that you always have a focus on.

Speaker Change: where you want to be and the growth. When do you see a break even, or do you see that you're going to continue to burn some cash as you grow, because it takes money to grow?

Ross Osborn: Okay, got it. And then switching to your partnership with Tufts, any color you can provide on a corporate corporation timeline of the peptides that is already in our eyes. You know, we've got several various activities going on right now with the 18 peptides that you're referring to. We're obviously not going to take on all the 18 at one time, but we have taken on and are selecting certain ones that you'll be hearing more about in the near term for us. Okay, great.

Ron Nixon: Well, the separation of the, the separation of Tissue Health Plus

Ron Nixon: ultimately, which we've talked about that we're going to that we've always wanted to seek other partners that can help us in the success of Tissue Health Plus.

Ron Nixon: And as we continue to move to that and Tissue Health Plus crosses that profitability threshold, which we believe if it launches in 2025, it will be very early. It'll have a very early success once the contracts are

Ross Osborn: And then lastly, could you want to give a game plan for targeting your new organization markets? You call it out, such as trauma. There's a key steps there to driving adoption. Do you need to generate more data? Is it more such a factor of knocking on doors? Any color would be helpful. Thank you.

Ron Nixon: are awarded.

Ron Nixon: And so once that happens, then surgery by itself stands on its own and is going to be, it is just fine from a profitability standpoint. We know we've got great margins.

Seth Yon: Yeah, Seth, would you mind taking that, please? Sure. We'll continue to expand with the right distribution partners in those spaces as well. Alongside of even looking at other partnership opportunities as well to expand into those unique specialties. So that will be a focus. In addition to that, we've also hired some specialists as well that are both focused specifically into the bone space as well. We think that that can be a great compliment to get into some of those additional specialties. Okay, great. Thanks for taking our questions. You're asked to get another chunk order. Yeah, thank you Ross. Thank you.

Ron Nixon: We've got great momentum in this sales effort.

Ron Nixon: We continue to expand, we just build our infrastructure around it and then you'll start to see what I think will be significant leverage off of our STNA.

Speaker Change: I certainly agree with you there, you've got to get to that, you know.

Speaker Change: You've got to get to enough force going forward. Do you see this negative cash burn as a reason for what I think is a depressed stock price?

Chris Plum: The next question will be from Chris Plum from 12 Pines Capital. Chris, your line is live. Morning, guys. Morning, Chris. Two questions. One with a new GPO deal. Does that cause a shift in strategy to go after the 3000 approved that are sold into? And then also if we can get a little more color update on Bouserge Progress since launch.

Speaker Change: Uh, you know, I don't actually...

Speaker Change: The stock market always confuses me, I never understand my decisions, so I really can't speak to that, quite frankly. All I know is I've not sold a share of stock, nor have...

Speaker Change: Most of our directors and and we all believe in going and we believe that this is going to be a very successful company So we are enjoying the ride and we're going to just continue to go forward John

Seth Yon: Yeah, Seth, why don't you take both of those, if you would please? Yeah, we'll continue to look to expand both at a local level and a national level to gain access into these facilities. So that progress won't change that approach won't change for us as far as having access at both a local IDN level and also at a national GPO level. We've done that with great success, which obviously allows us a faster track to success, but also the attraction that it brings to great distribution partners. That's a wonderful thing for us as well. So that's one.

John Sidoff: Well, neither have I. I just wanted to get yours and Mike's take on that and see how we're doing for the investors. And I appreciate the growth that you guys are continuing to grow.

John Sidoff: to show us out there in the market. Appreciate it guys, thank you. Thank you, John.

Speaker Change: You bet.

Speaker Change: Thank you. There were no other questions in queue at this time. I would now like to hand the call back to Ron Nixon for closing remarks.

Ron Nixon: I just want to thank all our shareholders that attended the call today and all the ones that will read about it and

Seth Yon: The second question again was specific to what could you ask Ellie? Again, to biosurge, just how that's going. Sure, sure, we had a soft launch of biosurge in the late fourth quarter of 2023 has really started to pick up and carry some momentum not only on a contracting side but again as a sales organization, we're looking at that as a facility level conversation, not just a surgeon level conversation. We're really happy with the progress being made, specifically through the second quarter with the growth of that product as well. It's fit nicely into, you know, a top six product for us already, and it's overall performance. And again, really happy with the progress that's being made with that product.

Ron Nixon: We just thank you for all your support. Thank you for hanging in there. We believe in our future. We're very excited about where we're going and how we're going to get there. And we continue to build a team that's, I think, best in class. And I feel very, very, very proud of that.

Ron Nixon: And so thank you all for attending today, and we'll talk to you soon.

Ron Nixon: and many more. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Ron Nixon: Seth, let me just tell Chris a little bit about the feedback also from the surgeons that have used it all the way around. We've reached a number of different specialties. And again, I think that's another piece that's complimentary to us reaching into other specialties. Every single surgeon that's into the OR is using some type of wash and that allows us to extend into the trauma and the general and plastic spaces as such as well, but we've had wonderful feedback from everything from orthopedics into spine, vascular general in a very early window and really satisfied and happy with again, the progress that's being made there in multiple specialties with that product.

Chris Plum: Great. Thanks, guys. Thank you, Chris. Thank you.

Ian Castle: And once again, at a star one, if you wish to ask a question on today's call, the next question is coming from Ian Castle from Microcap Club. The end of your line is live. Thanks for bringing the old table, and this is a very beneficial. Maybe my first question, maybe it's kind of relaying to what Seth answered a few questions ago. I was curious if there's any color into why the bone fusion product, specifically, seemed to their growth has been stagnating in the last couple quarters.

Ian Castle: Seth, I sure I can answer as well. So I would say this part of that is an approval process one where maybe the access for products like celery and fortify and such have a little bit greater opportunity based upon the number of approvals. One of the ways that we're tackling not only that is at a national level and local, but we just with just recently in the last 90 days we've hired a few bone specialist as well that will be in different markets to help build that out in addition to the regional managers and distributors that we have today.

Ian Castle: We think that's a great compliment to that space into those markets and should start to see a rise coming out of it as a result of people being hyper focused into that bone space. Whereas you can see from our performance, the performance has really been focused into that soft tissue space.

Ian Castle: So we think this is a great one to punch for us in the second half of the year. Thanks, I appreciate that.

Sam Papala: Now my next question would be for Sam, you know, what are the key areas need to solidify to get ready for that tissue health plus pilot and Q1 of 25? Thank you. And in terms of key areas, there are three. The first is we are finishing the build out of our technology platform. The second is we are finishing off the build out of our economic model validating that both from economics, which we're putting in front of players as well as our network partners. The third piece is very preparing education and on voting assets for both on voting our staff as well as our network partners.

Sam Papala: Anderson. Thank you.

Ron Nixon: And the may of last one for you, Ron. You know, I appreciate you breaking apart in the segment of financials so we can see what tissue health plus is doing versus surgical. You know, what is preventing you from being more profitable and surgical at your current run rate? Yeah, that's a good question. So Ian, like frankly, we we've set out from the very beginning with the launch of cellarate. And then beyond adding additional products, we want to be a complete portfolio of products to be able to support the surgeons for ancillary products that can help them in their surgery.

Ron Nixon: So protect their work, make their work better. And we've we've done that successfully by adding our biosurge to that along with cellarate and our other products, both soft and soft tissue and bone. But we're not stopping there. We're going to continue as Seth talked about, you know, the three new areas that we want to go after related to, you know, vascular and plastics in general. And they may have different needs for us.

Ron Nixon: And we're constantly looking for what else we can either acquire or partner with others. And and because of doing that and knowing where we want to go and how we want to get there through either these partnerships or acquisition, we want to continue to build our infrastructure to support this organization. You heard, so I want a Jake on the call today. Jake came aboard and he's helping us to increase our efficiencies across everywhere, make sure that we can support the high growth organization.

Ron Nixon: And we're not we're not interested in slowing down our growth to maximize profitability today. We believe we can maximize profitability as we move into the future just by getting fixed cost leverage as we continue to add more and more to what we're doing today. So hope that answers your question. But that's that's that's a game plan and that's where we're headed and we've got a keen eye on a plan to profitability, increased profitability from where we are today.

Ian Castle: Maybe one last one to tag on to that, you know, it does look like your growth rate really bounced back, you know, from from late last year or middle last year, which is good to see, you know, is there anything kind of one time, one time stocking order here in Q2 that made it more robust than it would have been under normal sales cadence. I don't I don't believe so. My I can I can answer that as well.

Ian Castle: We had really steady incremental growth throughout the entire quarter. It wasn't a shot in the arm, you know, type of order or big stocking orders or things like that that kind of inflated the number that did not occur in the second quarter. And really happy from, you know, April and the growth inside of April to May and it just continued to client. So I would say that the progress was really, really strong overall. It wasn't a result of just a one time order. Yeah. And I think I misunderstood your question, me and sorry about that. Thank you.

John Sydoff: And the next question will be from John Sydoff from Twinno. Brooks, Equity LLC. John, your line is live. Thanks. Ron and Mike, congratulations guys on the continued growth. I mean, that's to be an 80 million dollar run rate is fantastic. You guys done a great job over the last five years in graduation. Thanks, John. Thank you. Of course, Ian had a great question about the, you know, we all know how much it costs to grow a company and, you know, the cash that you need for that.

John Sydoff: And I see that you've gotten a new facility. And I certainly like that because you can't run out of money. Ron, do you foresee when, is there like a certain number that you're, I know that you always have a focus on, you know, where you want to be in the growth? When do you see a break even or do you see that you're going to continue to burn some cash, you know, as you grow, because it takes, you know, money to grow.

John Sydoff: Well, the separation of the, the separation of tissue health plus, ultimately, which we've talked about that we're going to, that we've always wanted to seek other partners that can help us in the success of tissue health plus. And as we continue to move to that and tissue health plus crosses that profitability threshold, which we believe if it launches in 2025, it will be very early. It'll have a very early success once the contracts are, are awarded.

John Sydoff: And so once that happens in surgery, it by itself stands on its own and is, is going to be, it's, it is just fine from a profitability standpoint. We know we've got great margins. We got great momentum in the sales effort. We continue to expand. We just build our infrastructure around it and then you'll start to see what I think will be significant significant leverage off of our ST&A. But I certainly agree with you there.

John Sydoff: You've got to get to that, you know, you've got to get to enough force going forward. Do you, do you see the negative, this negative cash burn? The cash burn is, as a reason for artists, what I think is the depressed stock price. You know, I don't actually, the stock market always confuses me. I never understand. I really can't speak that quite frankly. All I know is I've not sold a share stock nor have most of our directors and we all believe in growing and we believe that this is going to be a very successful company.

John Sydoff: So we are enjoying the ride and we're going to just continue to go forward John. Well, neither have I. I just wanted to get you yours and Mike's take on that and see how we're doing for the investors. I appreciate the growth that you guys are continuing to show us out there in the market. I appreciate it guys. Thank you. Thank you, John. You bet. Thank you. There were no other questions in queue at this time.

Ron Nixon: I would now like to hand the call back to Ron Nixon for closing remarks. I just want to thank all our shareholders that attended the call today and all the ones that will read about it and we just thank you for all your support. Thank you for hanging in there. We believe in our future. We're very excited about where we're going and how we're going to get there. And we continue to build a team that I think best in class and I feel very, very proud of that.

Ron Nixon: And so thank you all for attending today and we'll talk to you soon. Thank you.

Unknown Executive: This does conclude today's conference.

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