Q2 2024 Tuya Inc Earnings Call
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Ill turn the call over to your first speaker for today, Mr. Reg try Investor Relations director of <unk>. Please go ahead Sir.
Mr. Reg: Okay. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Hello, everyone and welcome to <unk> second quarter 2024 earnings call joining us today on solar in New York.
Speaker Change: Well our CFO.
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Speaker Change: And incoming CFO Alex yes.
Speaker Change: The second quarter of 2024 financial results webcast conference call are available at IR <unk> Com a replay of this call will also be available on our IR website a few hours.
Speaker Change: Before we continue I refer you to our Safe Harbor statement, our earnings press release.
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As we will make forward looking statements with that I will now turn the call open.
Speaker Change: Distributable Gary will deliver his remarks in Chinese which will be followed by Covid body English translation.
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Speaker Change: The second quarter of 2024 with another milestone for Korea, with our revenue continuing to meet expectations and that shifting of robust year over year growth of approximately 29%.
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Speaker Change: First the second quarter, we have continued to invest in device and edge AI aiming to significantly enhance the smart product experience through Jenny <unk>.
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Speaker Change: Finally at the surplus <unk> operating margin and financial leverage structure in the second quarter have fully validated unique value in all three as business model moving forward based on our existing experience and the foundation, we will continue to strive for the financial improvements and ensured we have long term value.
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Speaker Change: This special cash dividends Spurs, the distribution totally approximately $33 million in the months roughly equivalent to our non-GAAP net profit for the first half of 2024.
Speaker Change: non-GAAP metric simply put reflects the results of the company's director of business decisions at the operational level, excluding other factors unrelated to the business model based on this tour.
Speaker Change: non-GAAP operating profitability for the first time this quarter and achieved a solid operating margin.
Speaker Change: That's at the same time, considering the company's abundant net cash and that affect the data. We have already have the positive operating cash flow for five consecutive quarters from the second quarter 2023, two this quarter, we believe that.
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Speaker Change: That's all for the business update Luckily as some of you may have faced in this mornings announcement on our team.
Speaker Change: Current CFO Jesse will be stepping down from her role as CFO and executive director on September 16th due to personal endeavors.
Speaker Change: Over the past five years <unk> expertise in capital markets and finance has been crucial in shaping to us long term development strategy and our growth.
Speaker Change #100: Our efforts in driving operational optimization and efficiency management and made outstanding contributions to improving throughout the business and the financial profitability I would like to take this opportunity. During this court to express our best wishes to Jessie and thank her for her significant contributions to the company over the past.
Jessie: Five years.
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Speaker Change #103: <unk> will share some additional financial data with everyone.
Jessie: Thank you Jerry for sharing the Companys growth strategy and the long term development philosophy and also thanks for your kind words.
Speaker Change #104: Now I will discuss our financial results and provide more detail on the numbers that I've covered by Terry.
Speaker Change #105: Please note that all figures in U S dollars and all comparisons are on a year over year basis, unless otherwise stated.
Speaker Change #106: In the second quarter of 2024 hour total revenue reached $73 3 million up 28, 6% of yield a year, excluding the adverse impact of exchange rate between the U S dollar and RMB.
Speaker Change #106: Growth would have been 31%.
Speaker Change #106: Most importantly, we achieved non-GAAP operational profitability for the first time this quarter with a solid profit margin of 10%.
Speaker Change #106: This core financial figures demonstrate the triage strategists and efforts are yielding positive results as Jerry mentioned, we are encouraged by the fact that we are in a stronger financial and operational position.
Jerry: <unk> revenue in the second quarter was $54 3 million, representing a year over year growth of 32% regarding product categories. We saw robust demand growth across all product categories with home appliances experiencing the highest year over year growth of about 65.
Jerry: Due to our efforts on delivering high value products to our customers.
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Speaker Change #108: And approximately 30% of year over year growth due to the normalization of downstream inventory compared to the same period last year from.
Speaker Change #109: <unk> original revenue demand perspective.
Speaker Change #109: Europe continues to be our largest market accounting for <unk>.
Speaker Change #109: One third of the total revenue demand.
Speaker Change #109: Asia Pacific Region, and Latin America have seen a continuously accelerated demand growth with contributions from rising clearly compared to last year.
Speaker Change #109: The Asia Pacific region accounted for around one third of the total revenue demand, while Latin America demand contribution increased nearly 10%.
Speaker Change #109: Nearly 10% to 15% in the second quarter.
Speaker Change #109: The structure of original revenue contribution is similar to Q1, which is the state. We are pleased to see an aim to maintain.
Speaker Change #109: On the customer front, we saw.
Speaker Change #109: Approximately 3000 customers in the second quarter of 2024.
Speaker Change #109: Slight decrease from the same period last year.
Speaker Change #109: Fluctuation in the number of customers in a single quarter is partly related to downstream customers order placements and their own operational turnovers.
Speaker Change #109: Overall, however, our key account customer strategy has built a lot of talk here customer pyramid.
Speaker Change #109: With increased customer efficiency.
Speaker Change #109: And at the best evidence.
Speaker Change #109: Q2 hour per capita revenue and per capital gross profit continued to see significant year over year increase.
Speaker Change #109: About 53% and 57% respectively. Additionally, our 12 months.
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Speaker Change #110: Sequentially rebounded for three quarters, returning to 197% at the end of this quarter.
Speaker Change #110: The gross margin of Iot path towards 40, 676% this quarter remaining stable and healthy level with an improvement of around three percentage points year over year.
Speaker Change #110: This improvement was driven by a higher proportion of high margin products in our portfolio, such as home appliances, including Mark Hutchens and passive devices.
Speaker Change #110: Our smart solutions segment recorded revenue of <unk>.
$9 4 million in Q2, an increase of approximately 44, 2% year over year during.
During the quarter, we continued to achieve strong results in outdoor central control and energy saving device solutions.
Speaker Change #110: As much temperature control devices.
Speaker Change #110: The foundation of the Smart solution business has served.
Speaker Change #110: As an important tool for us to increase customer stickiness and meet the demand for competitiveness in device intelligence as Jeremy mentioned earlier, so typically smash solution complements our past products by providing customers with multi license they need in the fall.
Speaker Change #111: But as for the retail market or commercial project for two year path leverage our established PBT ecosystem to win with volume once more solutions with pricing through the quantity and the value embedded in our software.
Speaker Change #111: The synergy between the two has driven growth in both revenue and profit.
Speaker Change #111: Improving revenue efficiency.
Speaker Change #111: Our staff and other sector recorded revenue of $9 $6 million in the second quarter of 2024. This was a stable quarter due to adjustments in revenue restructuring structuring revenue of high value software value added services, such as car storage and smart private cloud solution.
Speaker Change #111: <unk> substantial the overall gross margin first half another 71% in Q2, consistent with our expectations based on the mix of services.
Speaker Change #112: Regarding the operating activities and expenses I will provide a detailed below.
Speaker Change #113: On a non-GAAP basis, which excludes certain items to give a clearer picture of our operational efficiency. We continue to present, our operating expenses, primarily our non-GAAP basis.
Speaker Change #113: In Q2, 2024, our non-GAAP total operating expenses decreased.
Speaker Change #113: <unk> 15, 6% to $27 8 million from $33 million a year.
Speaker Change #113: Largely due to reduced employee related costs in R&D and sales and marketing and G&A expenses as we now maintain a more streamlined team compared to the second quarter of last year.
Speaker Change #113: This result achieved not only through internal organization and the team management optimization, but also through our continuous efforts to improve efficiency by embracing new technologies.
Speaker Change #113: Under our comprehensive strategy of embracing generally we're applying AI to improve our internal development operations marketing and the logistic efficiencies. All work for is expected to remain relatively stable. This year regarding sales and marketing activities, we continue to adopt <unk>.
Speaker Change #114: Thank you.
Speaker Change #115: Our property increasing market activities in line with revenue growth and our market activity net flix.
Speaker Change #116: For example in the second quarter, we received significant attention by hosting the global developer conference in June at the end of May one of our next major events, we'll be participating in the IFA in Berlin in early September where we will showcase the new experiences Jenny I can bring to the industry and developers.
Speaker Change #116: On the other hand, I come back to you with customers and hosting.
Exhibitions will help reduce our own cost while also assisting customers in increasing their industry influence.
Speaker Change #116: Given by strong revenue growth.
Efficiency, a stable gross margin supported by our product strong value proposition and excellent control over expenses and the cost the second quarter market. We are the first ever non-GAAP operational profitability.
Speaker Change #116: We are confident in this achievement because this model allows for profit growth at the top line without requiring significant additional expenses.
Speaker Change #116: As a result this profit.
Speaker Change #116: We're largely translates into profit.
Speaker Change #116: <unk> for the company, which is why our non-GAAP operating profit margin directly reached around 10%.
Speaker Change #116: In the second quarter is the first time, achieving a breakeven.
Speaker Change #116: Milestone also indicates that <unk> has entered a new phase of business operations, one that is self sustaining.
Speaker Change #116: Finally in the second quarter, we continued to.
Speaker Change #116: Record approximately $12 5 million in interest income, providing additional capital for our daily operations. We continue to follow our consistent capital strategy prioritizing the protection of our principle maximizing funk supplements.
Speaker Change #116: As a result, our non-GAAP net profit risk.
Speaker Change #116: $98 million setting a new quarterly record operating cash flow continued to exceed $10 million.
Speaker Change #116: And our net cash reached over 1 billion U S. Dollar by the end of the second quarter.
Speaker Change #116: We are thrilled about.
Speaker Change #117: Turning to our financial performance in the second quarter and I believe that two year now has a solid financial and operational foundation.
Speaker Change #117: Us too.
Speaker Change #117: Reward our supporters with cash dividend looking ahead, we are committed to continue driving topline growth.
Speaker Change #117: Leverage healthy cash flow and shareholder return.
Speaker Change #117: So it concludes my presentation on the Companys financial performance.
Speaker Change #119: Over the past five years <unk> has experienced significant growth in <unk>.
Speaker Change #119: Information and I'm proud to say that we are today has become a public company with strong competitive advantages.
Speaker Change #119: Sustainable financial growth healthy profitability and ample capital reserve.
Alex: Our cofounder and a colleague I deeply respect will be succeeding me as CFO, Alex played a kilo new early stage from the raising for two years before I joined and he was also a key member during our IPO Road shows post IPO. Alex also attended unlocking letter communications and <unk>.
Alex: He has a lot of capital market experiences.
Alex: He will join us for the Q&A session.
Alex: Hello, everyone I'm excited to engage in many discussions with you in the future.
Speaker Change #121: With that operator, we are ready to take questions. Thank you.
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Speaker Change #123: Finally, when asking a question. Please state your questions in Chinese first then immediately translate them into English for the convenience of everyone on the call. Please standby for our first question.
Speaker Change #123: Yes.
Speaker Change #124: And our first question is going to come from the line of Yang Lu with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
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Speaker Change #131: Future demand outlook.
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Speaker Change #134: Almost 30% growth in first half can be sustained in second half. Thank you.
Speaker Change #134: Yeah. Thanks for the question. This is Alex so I'd like to address this question from both external and to a specific perspective.
Speaker Change #134: As a company invented within its industry and in this current era to our strategy is to seize opportunities and take actions that align with our capabilities and vision.
Speaker Change #134: So.
Speaker Change #134: The macro economy environment is crucial as it has been demonstrated over the past three years. However.
Speaker Change #134: However, what is even more critical is how the company position itself to capitalize on opportunity and expanding revenue in the face of competition and market dynamics.
Tony: So it's Tony we observe that after a recover in the first half of this year.
Tony: The macro economy environment has stabilized.
Tony: You might have closely follow China export data for the first half and second quarter.
Tony: Which serve as a significant indicator of global demand within the global supply chain.
Tony: For example.
Tony: Driven by factors like inventory replenishment in Europe and in U S. A new demand from emerging market.
Tony: South East Asia.
Tony: The number of household appliances export from China grew by approximately 25% year on year in the first half of this year.
Speaker Change #136: According to Chinese customer data.
Speaker Change #136: So this is a robust result.
Speaker Change #136: Of course smart devices extend beyond just home appliances and.
Speaker Change #137: And we've seen similar trends in other categories, such as strongly cover and growth in the smart lighting and the first half.
With consumer security products also performing solidly.
Chanel.
Speaker Change #138: In observable market, we've noted that some downstream companies in non small sectors.
Speaker Change #138: Consumer electronics have also shown.
Speaker Change #138: Quite good performance.
Speaker Change #138: With our market positioning and value chain stages being similar to this who are customers in consumer electronics sectors.
So of course, you might have.
Speaker Change #138: I've noticed by July data.
Speaker Change #139: Although household appliances extra in July still achieved year on year growth of 16% in value and 23% in volume.
Speaker Change #139: There was slightly slowed down in momentum on a month on month basis.
Speaker Change #139: This is a normal phenomenon due to the seasonal and.
Speaker Change #139: Cyclical nature of the consumer electronics.
Speaker Change #139: With peak and off peak season.
Speaker Change #139: Generally Q3 is a relatively off season.
Speaker Change #140: Well Q4 is our peak season due to the commercial preparation before Christmas and Black Friday.
Speaker Change #140: So taking these factors into account we believe in the industry is in a positive state of development.
Speaker Change #141: The next key question is what <unk> will do and should do.
Gerrish: In this context Gerrish earlier presentation has also outline to your strategy and our folks here, we are quite clearly curran.
Speaker Change #143: Currently <unk> operates a cubic motto comprehensively covering the intelligence needs of the enterprises.
Speaker Change #144: So the X axis represents the diverse needs of customers for.
Speaker Change #144: For instance, some customer pauses strong supply chain capability, but the lack of a cloud and software intelligence.
Speaker Change #144: <unk> past products come into play.
Speaker Change #144: Others needs complete end to end smart device and the business capabilities, which is rare to smart device solutions and cube smart private cloud products meets their needs.
Speaker Change #144: Some other customers required operational functions. So <unk> offers a SaaS software products like the cost storage.
Speaker Change #144: So that's the X and the Y axis represents industry diversity.
Speaker Change #144: Covering everything from single Smart consumer electronics retail retail products to a multiple categories ecosystem of smart homes.
Speaker Change #144: Marshals from nine hours and specific industry attributes like the space saving energy efficiency.
Speaker Change #144: All 40 supported by to our platform.
Speaker Change #144: So the lastly, the Z axis.
Represent Xu.
Speaker Change #144: Geographical diversity.
Speaker Change #145: As a global smart cloud platform service providers, our customers developers and ecosystem partners span the globe.
Speaker Change #145: Providing a solid foundation of our overall business and performers.
Speaker Change #145: To tackle regional challenges and cease opportunities.
Speaker Change #146: You haven't seen that our European business remains steady, but the growth rate in Latin America, and southeast Asia, and even more impressive.
Speaker Change #146: So this has contributed significantly to the 29% year on year revenue growth in the first half and 10% non-GAAP operation margin achieved in Q2.
Speaker Change #146: So looking ahead to the second half of this year.
Speaker Change #146: It's well known that due to the ordering pattern of the downstream smart consumer electronics industries, and a high base of a year on year revenue growth in Q3, and 2023 as comparable period.
Speaker Change #146: It is challenging to provide an accurate to year on year number today.
Speaker Change #146: However, considering all the above correct correct sticks and competitive advantages together, we remain optimistic about continually year on year growth in our core business in the second half of this year.
Speaker Change #146: Thank you.
Speaker Change #146: Okay.
Speaker Change #146: Thank you.
Speaker Change #147: Thank you and one moment as we move on to our next question.
Speaker Change #148: And our next question is going to come from the line of Timothy Zhao with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Speaker Change #148: Okay.
Speaker Change #148: Okay.
Speaker Change #148: Yes.
Speaker Change #148: Yes.
Speaker Change #149: Sorry about that.
Speaker Change #149: Welcome to all.
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Speaker Change #149: Thank you guys.
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Speaker Change #149: Steve.
Speaker Change #149: Okay.
Speaker Change #149: Our factories.
Speaker Change #149: Absolutely.
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Speaker Change #149: Yes.
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Speaker Change #149: My question.
Speaker Change #149: Thanks, David.
Speaker Change #149: Alrighty.
Speaker Change #149: And.
Speaker Change #149: Okay.
Speaker Change #149: This year.
Speaker Change #149: Currently.
Speaker Change #149: Specialty.
Speaker Change #149: Okay.
Speaker Change #149: Okay.
Speaker Change #149: Okay.
Speaker Change #149: Okay. Thanks, Timothy I think the first question is about our.
Speaker Change #149: When we're looking at.
Speaker Change #149: Operating profitability and the second question is about our long term view of.
Speaker Change #150: Cash dividend, so I would take on the first question and Alex will take on the second question.
Alex: So achieving profitability, it's not something that can be decided one quarter and accomplished next.
Speaker Change #151: Fundamentally about the business model and strategic direction, followed by the collective execution efforts of the entire organization.
Alex: Reaching non-GAAP operating breakeven this quarter is a significant milestone in achieving a 10% margin on our first attempt.
Something we considered to be a strong outcome moving forward, we will continue to balance growth with profitability with Mexico being to expand our scale of revenue margin and profit figures become more meaningful.
Alex: To this end, we have a solid foundation and experiences that we can share.
Speaker Change #152: Two we have income statement.
Speaker Change #153: Rather clear financial logic. Thanks.
Speaker Change #153: Thanks to our.
Speaker Change #153: Business model.
Speaker Change #153: Our enterprise services developer community and the platform, we do not need to make significant incremental investments to acquire.
Speaker Change #153: Customers to generate revenue. So this means that the additional gross profit generated and the effective cost control translate directly into profit.
Speaker Change #154: A significant portion.
Speaker Change #154: Overall gross margin is a structural result of the combined gross margin across our three major business segments.
Speaker Change #154: Which themselves reflect market competition and product value.
There will be quarterly fluctuations the margins remained stable overall.
Speaker Change #154: From a gross profit perspective.
Speaker Change #154: Our gross profit has seen considerable and efficient growth over the past year alongside the revenue and the current size of our team.
Speaker Change #154: <unk> gross profit is our source of profitability.
Second our cost control measures have seen have been evident to everyone. Since the end of 2021, we have consistently maintained.
Speaker Change #154: <unk> expenses.
Speaker Change #154: With non-GAAP operating expenses remaining slightly over $13 million over the past several quarters.
Speaker Change #154: But the literally the return to revenue growth is giving us the confidence to modestly increase marketing and sales investments if needed, but we will rigorously control costs overall balancing the need for operating leverage and profitability and ensuring that every dollar is spent wisely.
Speaker Change #154: Well Laura on the operational side, we hope and are willing to see non-GAAP.
Laura: Quarterly operating margin, maintaining a similar level to Q2.
Speaker Change #156: Regarding net profit and net profit margin due to the expectation of interest rate cuts and are considering market volatility beyond <unk> control.
Speaker Change #157: We will strive to secure supplementary financial gains, while ensuring capital protection.
Speaker Change #157: As for GAAP operating profit or loss and a net profit that may experience quarterly fluctuations due to some non operational factors.
Speaker Change #157: Such as share based compensation expenses and the class action litigation cost.
However, we believe this doesn't affect.
Speaker Change #157: The judgment of <unk> fundamental business operations.
Speaker Change #158: And that's the Gulf wind.
Speaker Change #159: Question, Yes. So the dividend is a is a topic of great interest to everyone. So let me take the opportunity to expand specialty been announced so.
Speaker Change #160: So first of all it's called a special dividend.
Speaker Change #161: Because there is no legal definition of non-GAAP earnings under GAAP. So Twitter has not achieved our full year profitability to two relatively large noncash share based compensation expenses, which made it difficult to issue a final or annual dividend from a compliance of premise standpoint.
Speaker Change #160: However.
Speaker Change #160: The actual dividend amount.
Speaker Change #160: Approximately 33 million corresponds to <unk> non-GAAP net profit for the first half of this year.
Speaker Change #160: So we base this decision our.
Speaker Change #160: Our current non-GAAP operating profit level cash flow net cash position and other relevant core financial indicators.
Speaker Change #160: And in the dividend amount and the timing based on all of these considerations, including actual net profit.
Speaker Change #162: We do believe that it is the right approach to prioritize performance first and then build a non term and sustainable shareholder return model, while ensuring the company can invest and grow according to its strategic needs.
Speaker Change #162: Thank you.
Speaker Change #163: Operator take over next question.
Speaker Change #164: One moment please.
Speaker Change #165: And our next question is going to come from the line of Chi Chow with TICC. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Chi Chow: I have a question.
Chi Chow: Okay.
Chi Chow: Okay.
Chi Chow: Please go ahead.
Chi Chow: Once again good question.
Chi Chow: Yes.
Speaker Change #167: Hey, guys.
Speaker Change #167: We will come out soon thereafter.
Speaker Change #168: Without quantifying.
Speaker Change #168: Hey, guys how are you.
Josh: Sure Josh.
Josh: That to me.
Josh: Yes.
Josh: Please.
Speaker Change #170: Go ahead your thoughts at all.
Josh: Okay.
Josh: Guangdong.
Josh: And a quick one.
Josh: Did you realize that you saw.
Josh: Alright.
Josh: Yes.
Josh: California.
Josh: Okay.
Brad: Thank you Brad.
Brad: Sure.
Speaker Change #172: Hi, Thanks management bench and congratulations for the quarter and my question is regarding the AI as you mentioned.
Brad: Jim.
Brad: Yeah.
Speaker Change #173: So far this year, it's all yours.
Brad: Great.
Speaker Change #174: Key assumptions.
Speaker Change #174: Pivotal customer case customer feedback.
Speaker Change #175: The budget.
Speaker Change #175: Budget.
Jim: Entire Jim position.
Speaker Change #177: Oh, great. Thank you.
Speaker Change #178: Yes. So currently we are actively developing several smart devices products based on <unk> technology, which covers the dress categories such as smart watches.
Speaker Change #179: Smart Greens.
Speaker Change #179: Headphones and smart speakers and are good assets.
So each products and to further integrate large motto capability on top of their existing functions to provide a mall.
Speaker Change #179: Personalized and intelligent user experience.
Speaker Change #179: For example.
Speaker Change #179: Smart watches and rings will be able to generate more personalized with pushed to users enhancing.
Speaker Change #179: Interactivity through.
Speaker Change #179: Faces, so GPT voice assistant.
Speaker Change #179: AI headphones country supported transcription and summarization and.
Speaker Change #179: And we plan to expand to the capability into crude real time transcription and translation in the future.
Speaker Change #180: So those categories component.
Speaker Change #180: Component <unk>, a smart ecosystem well.
Speaker Change #180: Which is why they have game popularity in emerging market select APAC and Japan. So at the addition of Jim AI capability will significantly enhance the competitiveness of <unk> solutions, creating better customer engagement and the user experience.
Speaker Change #180: So those products are currently under intensively development Winnie herself so with many projects expected to enter trial production in the fourth quarter. This year.
Speaker Change #181: For example, we plan to announce smart speaker products with the <unk> capability, including the Chinese version in Q4.
Speaker Change #181: And gradually intuition these air capability into our pass offering for developers.
Speaker Change #181: So overall revenue from AI smart devices and software products may begin to match.
Speaker Change #181: Benefits to gradually starting next year.
Speaker Change #182: So we go out in the.
Speaker Change #182: Monetization of Jimmy we believe there are two relevant feasible approaches. So the first is to integrate those capability into products for customers and developers to use as the fit this.
Speaker Change #182: This way the products they create will inherently process, Jim add capability, which can be sold to downstream end users such as consumers who can subscribe to.
Speaker Change #182: <unk> features through there a smartphone.
Speaker Change #182: Pay per user basis.
Speaker Change #182: So this is classic SaaS model, so which has the advantage of now imposing additional cost our customers, thereby helping to us differentiate products gain market share.
Speaker Change #182: Hmm.
Speaker Change #182: The stable revenue generated through.
Tony: Vantiv Tony payment added the end user data we have.
Speaker Change #183: The second approach is incurring Jim add capability as additional profit price within our products such as our past our smart solution model. So the benefit of this is allow us to precisely targeted customers, who have real competitive need and a strong desire to excel into the smart smart.
Speaker Change #183: So we will select the most suitable and the business driving charging model for different category and scenarios.
Speaker Change #183: Thank you.
Speaker Change #183: Okay.
Speaker Change #184: Thank you we've reached the end of the call and I would now like to hand, it back to the management team for any closing remarks.
Speaker Change #185: Okay. Thank you all again for joining our call today. If you have any further questions. Please feel free to contact us all request through our IR website, we look forward to being with everyone.
Speaker Change #185: Earnings call.
Speaker Change #186: Have a good day today. Thank you.
Speaker Change #186: Thank you.
Speaker Change #187: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating you may now disconnect everyone have a great day.