Q3 2024 Green Brick Partners Inc Earnings Call
Hello everyone, my name is Jessica and I will be your conference operator today. At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the Green Brick Partner's Inc. 3rd quarter, 2024 earnings call.
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I would now like to turn the call over to Rick Costello, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.
Rick Costello: Good afternoon and welcome to Green Bear Partners earnings call for the third quarter ended September 30th, 2024.
Following today's remarks, we will hold the Q&A session. As a reminder, this call is being recorded and will be available for playback.
In addition, a presentation will accompany today's webcast and is also available on the company's website at investors.greenbrickpartners.com.
On the call today is Jim Brickman, Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Jed Dolson, President and Chief Operating Officer, and myself, Rick Costello, Chief Financial Officer.
Some of the information discussed on this call is forward-looking, including the company's financial and operational expectations for 2024 and beyond.
In yesterday's press release and SEC filings, the company detailed material risks that may cause its future results to differ from its expectations.
The company's statements are as of today, October 31st, 2024, and the company has no obligation to update any forward-looking statement it may make.
Rick Costello: Our comments also include non-GAAP financial metrics.
The reconciliation of these metrics and the other information required by Regulation G can be found in the earnings release that the company issued yesterday and in the presentation available on the company's website. With that, I'll turn the call over to Jim. Jim?
Jim: Thank you, Rick.
Jim: Before we dive into the financial results today, I would like to take a moment to acknowledge a significant milestone for Green Brick.
This week marks the 10th anniversary since Greenbrick became a public company.
Over the past decade, we have prided ourselves on our ability to navigate turbulent environments while maintaining a focus on our long-term growth objectives.
Ten years ago in 2014, we had fewer than 600 closings.
and $246 million in total revenues.
In 2021, we achieved total revenues above $1 billion for the first time.
and now we expect to surpass the two billion mark in revenue in fiscal 2024.
Our compounded annual growth rate and pre-tax income from FY 2015 to the last 12 months ending 9-30-24 is an amazing 34%.
Jim: We also believe that our ability to grow with one of the least leveraged balance sheets
and one of the lowest costs of debt among our small and mid-cap peers demonstrates our team's operational excellence and positions us well for future growth.
At the end of the third quarter, our net debt to total capital ratio was only 12.5%, and our total debt to total capital ratio was 16.4%, with a weighted average interest rate of 3.4%.
Finally, of the 16 public home building peers that we tracked, Greenbrick was the top performer since we went public based on share price appreciation, including the impact of any dividends.
As I look back on this journey, I'm incredibly grateful and proud of our accomplishments.
made possible by our dedicated employees whose unwavering commitment enabled Green Brick to realize its vision of building long-term lasting communities and providing lasting value to our home buyers and our shareholders.
Now let's turn to our third quarter results.
I'm excited to share that Greenbrick completed its best third quarter in company history.
Jim: We closed 956 new homes and grew home closings revenue by 26% year-over-year to $523 million, over 80% of which was again generated from infill and infill-adjacent submarkets.
Home building gross margins moderated from our record high last quarter but remained at the top among our public home building peers as shown on slide 4.
Jim: Year-to-date home building gross margin of 33.6% was up 290 basis points and reflects a record for any year in our history through the third quarter.
As shown on slide 5, since 2022, we have generated home building gross margins in excess of 30% with the exception of only three quarters.
Net income attributed to Green Brick during the third quarter grew 23.5% to $89 million and earnings per share increased 26.9% year-over-year to $1.98, a record for any third quarter.
Jim: Year-to-date diluted EPS of $6.12 was up 34.5% year-over-year, another record for the company for any year-to-date period through the third quarter, and only $0.02 below our full-year EPS of $6.14 in 2023.
I believe there are several reasons for Greenbrick's sustained and consistent performance, but I would like to highlight one factor that is the heart of Greenbrick's success.
Specifically, while Greenbrick has evolved since its founding, our core philosophy and approach to land acquisition and development remains intact.
We differentiate ourselves from the prevalent land light model by strategically acquiring high quality land and self-developing lots on our balance sheet.
This approach enables us to avoid the rising costs often associated with the land light model, particularly in today's demand environment for land and lot inventory.
Jim: As a result, we anticipate our lot costs as a percentage of average sales price for a full year 2024 and 2025 to be flat compared to 2023.
In contrast to the industry trend where land and lot costs are continually growing as a percentage of the ASV.
We believe the ability to self-develop land at wholesale prices positions us favorably to control the entire land development life cycle, including giving us the ability to moderate pacing and timing as markets shift, which in turn enables us to manage costs more effectively.
Jim: Self-development also widens our access to land deals in a competitive land market, especially in coveted infill and infill adjacent submarkets.
Despite the misconception that land heavy leads to lower returns, Greenbrick has consistently generated industry-leading return on assets and equity.
Our year-to-date annualized return on equity was 27% and return on assets was 18%.
Return on Equity and Return on Assets since 2022 averaged 27.8% and 17.5%.
Jim: These returns are even more impressive as we are able to generate this level of return without contributions from our significant land investments, which are an investment in the long term, but do not contribute to any revenue in the current period.
Jim: We believe we have one of the best land and lot positions in our industry and are well positioned to maximize the value of our land assets and generate sustainable growth for the years to come.
We believe our land approach and key markets are also beneficial in analyzing market fundamentals.
We have not yet seen a significant increase in competition from existing homes in our key submarkets where we have acquired land primarily in infill and infill adjacent locations.
Jim: As illustrated on slide 6, existing home inventory remains at near-historic lows.
Jim: Many existing homeowners continue to stay put rather than forgo their low mortgage rates.
As shown on slide 7, approximately 75% of outstanding mortgages have an interest rate below 5%.
We believe that under current economic conditions and the high interest rate environment, the primary challenges limited demand continue to be buyers' psychology and affordability.
Jim: Many prospective homebuyers remain cautious even if they could qualify current mortgage rates.
We continue to provide our buyers the flexibility to allocate their spend out of our incentive dollars toward rate reduction buy-downs and closing costs to mitigate affordability concerns.
Over the long term, we continue to believe that favorable demographic shifts will serve as a strong backdrop for the home building industry.
As outlined on slide 8, a wave of Millennials and Gen Z are entering into prime home buying years, fueling demand for the next decade.
Jim: The housing market has been under build for years following the financial crisis.
creating a significant shortage estimated between 4 and 7 million units.
These factors collectively represent a substantial opportunity for new home construction.
and we believe Green Brick is well positioned to capitalize on this trend and to expand our market share with our Superior Land Pipeline.
With that, I'll now turn it over to Rick who will provide more detail regarding financial results. Rick?
Thank you, Jim. Please turn to slide 9 of the presentation.
Home closings revenue grew 26% year-over-year to $523 million, the highest for any third quarter in company history.
This increase was driven by 26.8% more closings year-over-year to 956 units, partially offset by an 80 basis point year-over-year decline of ASP to $547,000.
Jim: We continue to expect ASP to be in the range of $540,000 to $560,000 for the fourth quarter.
Jim: subject to changes in product mix and business conditions.
Jim: Homebuilding gross margins were 32.7% during the third quarter, down 60 basis points year-over-year. Our gross margin percentage remained the highest among our public homebuilding peers as shown on slide 4.
Jim: A sequential increase in incentives and discounts contributed to the decline in home building gross margins as we adjusted to seasonality and elevated mortgage rates during the quarter.
Jed will provide more details on the
Jim: The majority of trophies closings in 3Q were sold during the same quarter, resulting in a more rapid flow-through of higher incentives on our P&L, which had a slight negative impact on our gross margins.
SG&A is a percentage of residential unit revenue.
Jim: for the third quarter, decreased 30 basis points year-over-year to 11.0%.
Net income attributable to Greenbrick increased nearly 24% to $89 million and diluted earnings per share grew 27% to $1.98 per share, both a record for any third quarter in company history.
As shown on slide 10, year-to-date, we delivered 2,764 homes, generating home closing revenues of $1.51 billion, an increase of 14.6% year-over-year.
Homebuilding gross margin increased 290 basis points to 33.6% which reflects a record for any year in our history through the third quarter.
Net income attributable to Green Brick increased 31.3% year-over-year to $278 million, and diluted EPS grew 34.5% to $6.12, also a record for any year-to-date period through the third quarter.
Jim: Net new home orders during the third quarter picked up sequentially and were up 11.3% year-over-year to 877 orders.
RASP for new home orders was down 9.8% year-over-year to $518,000.
Jim: The decrease was due to, one, our shift in community mix from closing out infill communities to opening new communities and surrounding infill adjacent areas, and two, a higher percentage of new sales from Trophy, which typically has a lower ASP.
In Q3 of 24, Trumpy represented 52% of total new home orders versus 41% in Q3 of 23.
Year-to-date, net orders total 2,803, an increase of 4.7% year-over-year, with revenue from new home orders of $1.54 billion.
Jim: Backlog value at the end of the third quarter decreased 6.5% year-over-year to $582 million.
Jim: Trophy, a spec home builder, continued to represent a low percentage of overall backlog value at less than 15 percent.
As a result, our backlog ASP increased 5.8% year-over-year to $719,000, which stands in contrast to the lower year-over-year closing ASP.
We are actively growing our presence in our existing markets, with an ending community count of 106, which represents a 23% increase.
Jim: Trophy is selling from 38 of those communities.
Sales space for the third quarter was 8.4 homes per average active selling community or 2.8 sales per community per month.
Our cancellation rate for the third quarter remained low at 8.5 percent which was again one of the lowest among public home building peers as shown on slide 12.
Jim: As shown on the same slide, we started 1,057 homes, or over 20% more homes starts in Q3-24 from the previous year.
Also, our units under construction increased 21% to 2,330. Year-to-date, our starts are up 28%.
Jim: Spec units under construction as a percentage of total units under construction was 69 percent at the end of the third quarter, which is consistent with the start of 2024.
During the third quarter, we bought back approximately 97,700 shares of stock for $5.4 million, with a weighted average price of $55.19 per share.
Jim: While we remain opportunistic with respect to potential share repurchases, our primary focus will continue to be allocating capital to grow our inventory.
Last but not least, our investment grade balance sheet continues to provide us with a solid foundation for future expansion.
Jim: At the end of the quarter, our total debt to total capital ratio was only 16.4%, among the best of our public homebuilding peers, as shown on slide 11.
100% of our outstanding debt is fixed rate at an interest rate of 3.4%.
Furthermore, we had $80 million of cash on hand at the end of the third quarter readily available for deployment and $360 million fully available under our lines of credit.
With that, I'll now turn it over to Jed. Jed?
Jed: Thank you, Rick. We are pleased to see a sequential increase in sales volume during the third quarter in contrast to the declining trend observed last year at the same time.
Jed: Net new orders increased 11.3% year-over-year to 877 in the third quarter. Demand accelerated from June to July as mortgage rates dropped from 7% to mid-6%.
While traffic slowed down in August, we were encouraged by a rebound in September driven by a further interest rate decline to the low 6% range.
Jed: as well as a modest pricing adjustment in select communities. Incentives for new orders during the third quarter averaged 5.9 percent, up from 4.5 percent last quarter.
Speaker Change: Are Dallas and Atlanta submarkets continued to be healthy?
Trophy in particular experienced a stronger rebound in traffic and sales in September.
Speaker Change: Trophy's share of Green Brick new home orders for the third quarter increased to 52% by volume, as compared to 41% in the third quarter of last year.
Trophy's competitively priced products are designed to appeal to entry-level and first-time move-up homebuyers who we believe constitute a larger and growing pool of potential customers.
However, this category of prospective buyers is more sensitive to interest rate fluctuations requiring more pricing and incentive concessions in certain communities.
Year-to-date, Trophy represented 46% of closings by volume and over 35% by revenue.
Our team remains diligent in monitoring and evaluating each community, adjusting and optimizing pricing and pace on a dynamic basis.
Speaker Change: To address affordability, we continue to offer buyers the flexibility to use their incentive package towards either the price or closing costs, including rate buy-downs.
Buyers who closed used our affiliated mortgage company continued to demonstrate strong qualifying profiles with an average FICO score of 734 and an average debt to income ratio of 37% during the third quarter.
We are pleased to report significant progress in our new wholly-owned mortgage company, Green Brick Mortgage.
Speaker Change: Our team has been working diligently to implement the TechStack draft policies and procedures and secure the warehouse lines of credit for originating loans.
We are actively recruiting loan officers, processors, and underwriters with an estimated launch time frame in the first quarter of next year.
We're excited to offer our customers a more comprehensive and turnkey financial solution while adding a new income stream for Green Brick.
Moving to capital allocation, as Jim mentioned in his opening remarks, Greenbrook's exceptional growth and returns over the past decade starts with and is driven by our unique land strategy.
To propel our growth going forward, our land team has been diligently sourcing and developing land that positions us for future success.
Speaker Change: During the third quarter of 2024, we spent $125 million in land acquisition and $70 million in land development, bringing our year-to-date total spending to $514 million.
We remain on track to meet our original target of $700 million in land acquisition and development spend for the full year of 2024.
Year over year, we added over 12,700 new lots on a gross basis. On a net basis, total lots owned and controlled at the end of the third quarter increased by 41% to over 37,000 lots.
Geographically, approximately 92% of our total lots owned and controlled are located in Texas, 5% in Georgia, and 3% in Florida. Approximately 67% of total lots are allocated to Trophy, our primary growth engine.
Speaker Change: Excluding 19,300 lots in long-term communities, our current pipeline provides approximately five years of lot supply for our builders based on start space in non-master communities.
of the last 12 months.
Additionally, over 90% of our current inventory of lots owned and controlled are expected to be self-developed.
Slides 13 and 14 outline additional detail on our finished lot pipeline and our sub markets in Dallas, Fort Worth and Atlanta, our two largest markets.
By the end of the year, we expect to have approximately 4,600 finished lots for our subsidiary homebuilders, positioning green brick to sustain growth in 2025.
Our land markets remain extremely competitive as we strategically seek out high quality land parcels to support our grid.
Speaker Change: Despite persistent pressure on overall land prices, we remain confident in our ability to leverage our strong balance sheet and deep-rooted local connections to identify and acquire land that fits our stringent underwriting requirements.
Speaker Change: During the third quarter, we continued to underwrite new deals that met or exceeded our unleveraged baseline internal rate of return of approximately 21 percent.
Lastly, current supply chain and labor markets are both stable for land development and home construction.
Speaker Change: We have seen minimal delay in land development as a result of material or labor shortages compared to a year ago.
Speaker Change: Cycle times for completing homes construction in the third quarter improved by almost 10 days sequentially, an average 5.1 months.
Speaker Change: This was one month shorter than third quarter of 2023.
Speaker Change: Trophy cycle time.
was only 3.6 months in Dallas during the quarter. As we expand our operations in both existing and new markets, we believe we can achieve further efficiencies and cost savings through economies of scale. With that, I'll turn it over to Jim for closing remarks.
Jim: Thank you, Jed.
Jim: As we conclude today's call I would like to reflect on our success as we celebrate our 10-year anniversary as a public company.
Jim: This decade has been marked by a remarkable growth and achievements, achieving milestones and successes I really never would have imagined a decade ago.
Our team has accomplished so much and I am incredibly proud of what we have built.
I want to express my sincere gratitude to our employees whose hard work made this possible, as well as our shareholders for their continued support.
Speaker Change: Looking ahead, we are excited about the opportunities that lie ahead, particularly through our Trophy Brand, including our 2025 initiatives to expand our Austin presence and begin selling in the Houston market.
We remain committed to continuing to expand on the foundation we have created by building high-quality communities where people want to live, attracting and retaining talented and dedicated team members, and creating shareholder value.
At this time, I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. And we will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster.
Great. It looks like we do have a few questions in queue.
Our first question comes from the line of Alex Reigel.
Speaker Change: Alex, your line is now open. Thank you.
Thank you, and very, very nice quarter.
Alex Reigel: Jim I know it's still a little bit early but maybe if you could help us to think about community count growth into 2025 and then maybe Rick can help us to think about SG&A if 11% is a normalized level or is there some future additional leverage on that?
Speaker Change: Sure. Thanks, Alex. We just went over this.
pretty broadly with the full team and Rick's probably the best prepared to do this because he just did it for us. So Rick, why don't you talk about community count growth. Yeah, I think really because of our spec-heavy model, Alex, you know, we are, you are seeing the community count...
at the same time that you're seeing the starts. In other words, we'll start our first.
X number of months of homes.
And when we start selling them, you've already seen the starts hit, and it's just a matter of getting them to the finish line.
So, in that model, you're really seeing that growth come about by the fact that it's transitioned upwards. It's the last three quarters averaged over 1,015 starts, and the most recent, I think this quarter, was around 1,050.
Speaker Change: So that's really what you're going to be keying off of here.
In other words, it's that kind of pace that you're seeing.
Alex, the other thing that makes it a little more difficult for analysts and I think some investors is many of the communities that we're adding are larger trophy communities.
And those communities are going to have much greater sales paces. So as we add these communities, our sales pace is not going to be correlated to those communities as much as it has been in the past because many of these communities should generate a lot of sales.
NSG&A leverage.
Speaker Change: We don't really discuss it that much, but it's going to remain pretty much constant. Obviously, we're going to grow the top line. There may be some benefit there.
And then lastly, it looks like you're entering the northern part of Austin, Texas. Is that...
Speaker Change: help us to sort of understand how that fits with the infill and infill adjacent sort of strategy of Great Brick in its broader entirety.
Well, we are entering the Austin market.
Speaker Change: It does fit in with the infill and infill-adjacent strategy. One of the largest deals that we just bought in Austin is in Georgetown. That is a very desirable location, neighborhood. The city itself is fairly well built out. How many lots do we have there, 1100, Jed?
Yeah, access. You know, and really, we have most of the builders in Austin asking if we'll sell them lots there, and they perceive it as an A-plus location.
Our strategy is to hopefully find more deals like that, but it's a very competitive land market, and we'll see, you know, how that translates into 2025.
Very helpful. Thank you.
Thank you and your next question comes from the line of Karl Reichardt with VTIG
Carl, your line is now open. Thanks. Hey guys, nice to talk to you. Jim, would you take a stab at giving us a sense of how October's trended with rates up? Obviously, we've heard from a number of your peers talking about some choppiness there. I'd like to hear your take.
Well, our take, actually we knew you were going to ask this or somebody on the call has asked this, Carl, and our business is good.
And we're hesitant to start giving month-to-month comps, because even though it's good...
You know, as a CEO, I don't only want to parse good news, and we think if we start giving monthly data that we need to give monthly data all the time. So we're going to stay away from that other than saying we're still optimistic and we think business is good.
Okay, fair enough. And then, so Rick, you and I have talked a lot, all of us have talked about looking at your delivery volume and looking at your starts, comparing the two, and kind of looking at volume two-quarters out from your starts pace.
And as the business mix changes, well first of all, cycle times have started to improve some more, business mix has shifted to Trophy, you're building those faster. Is that relationship sort of two quarters out from starts pace still likely to hold as we move into 2025? Or do you think that that pace will quicken some or change?
I don't think it will change appreciably, you know, and it's, uh...
Speaker Change: It's a mix of delivery, so two to three is really what the answer is going to be. And also, if you go strictly by two quarters, then you're assuming that there's no change in our finished inventory levels at all, which, when rates are volatile, that's not necessarily a reasonable assumption.
I'd say two to three is probably a better guess.
We did a little over a thousand starts in the third quarter.
That's really a nice cadence. We think we're seeing demand is up very elastic you may have to throw some incentives at it to to make a house sale, but
and trying to match sales to it. Hopefully rates don't go up anymore and they go down so we don't have to attract buyers with incentives.
Speaker Change: Yeah, unless there's some dramatic change, we'll be starting at least a thousand homes every quarter.
Okay, great. That's very helpful. Thanks. If I can squeeze one more in, just on cash flow, you've been effectively OCF neutral all year, all three quarters, basically. You're a little different than other builders. Often we see a bigger buildup in OCF in the fourth quarter. Rick, what's your thinking on where OCF might end up in Q4? Will you end up being more positive for the year? Will that be a big flush quarter for you? Or will the investments in land sort of suck up the OCF you'd otherwise generate from closings?
Rick Costello: Yeah, you've got some extreme lumpiness there in our land closings.
Speaker Change: especially when some of the bigger deals close. We also had a situation in
Parts of Texas where the IRS gave us two quarters worth of forgiveness on our estimated tax payments that are not due until the fourth quarter because of the wind shear event we had in Texas.
So that bill comes due and in effect we have to pay three-quarters of our taxes in Q4 So I said between that and the land deals the land deals are highly unpredictable but you know, we may start to borrow on our lines of credit here and
Rick Costello: and would expect that to be a good answer. We're spending $700 million this year and that's likely to go up next year because we're finding good opportunities.
But all within range. We're around 16% to total capital. Don't see that changing dramatically. Maybe up to 20% at some point.
Okay, I appreciate that. Thanks a lot, guys.
Rick Costello: Yep.
And your next question comes from the line of Jay McCandless. And we would like to just remind folks, if you would like to ask a question, please press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. And again, our next question is Jay McCandless with Wedbush and Jay, your line is now open.
Thank you.
All right, thanks. So Jed, could you talk about
Jay McCandless: What levels of base pricing adjustments you guys are having to do versus maybe just incidents around closing costs or rate buy-downs? Just wondering how deep you're able to cut to kind of get homes moving in this environment.
Yeah, it's mainly incentive-driven. We really don't want to touch base pricing unless we have to, and so it's really, Jay, it's really been month-to-month, you know, looking at our incentive grid, you know, July was a tough month.
which is always a tough month.
Rick Costello: and continue to be.
Thank you.
consistent with with September to October consistence which means they're Jed.
Yeah, I mean if you want to look over the past 90 to 100 days you're going to use six percent incentives as a good guide.
Rick Costello: Okay.
Speaker Change: That's great.
And then, I guess, the other question I had...
Are there any new markets? I know one of the previous questioners asked about North Austin, but anything that you guys are looking at getting deeper, whether it's around the Atlanta market, around Dallas, anything we should be keeping our eye on?
Well, we're always, you know, interested in finding a good deal. We just don't see very many good deals in buying private builders in any markets.
Rick Costello: If you take a look at a kind of our strategy over the next five years, we're in Dallas, the largest market, or now maybe the second largest market. Houston is either arguably the first or second largest market. Atlanta is the fourth or fifth largest market.
Speaker Change: and our runway for growth in these markets that we're continuing to improve our operational skills and buying more and more land and seeing better deal flow. You know that gives us really a fantastic runway for growing the business.
We found some great builder in Charlotte. We'd love to buy it, but we're really happy with owning 37,000 lots in the markets I just talked about and that really provides a nice runway for our business for the next five years
Okay, that sounds great. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Thank you.
All right. And just as a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, simply press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. And we'll give it a moment to see if any questions come in.
Speaker Change: All right, well, I don't see any further questions on the line, so I want to just thank everybody for joining us for today's call. This does conclude our call today, so again, thank you for joining and you are now free to disconnect. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Okay, thanks everyone.
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