Q3 2024 Innventure Inc Earnings Call

Operator: Thank you for standing by, and welcome to Innventure's Q3 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. As a reminder, today's program is being recorded. Now I'd like to introduce your host for today's program, Lucas Harper, Chief Investment Officer. Please go ahead.

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Lucas Harper: Good morning. Thank you all for joining us for Innventure's Q3 2024 Earnings Call, our first as a public company. My name is Lucas Harper, Innventure's Chief Investment Officer, and joining me on the call today are Bill Haskell, our Chief Executive Officer, and Dave Yablunosky, our Chief Financial Officer. Earlier this morning, we issued a press release announcing our financial results, which is available on our investor relations website, along with a supplemental slide presentation. A reminder that certain statements made today may be forward-looking statements. These statements are made based upon management's current expectations and beliefs concerning future events impacting the company, and therefore involve a number of uncertainties and risks, including but not limited to, those described in our earnings release, Form 10-Q for the period ending 30 September 2024, and other filings with the SEC.

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Good morning, and thank you all for joining us for adventures third quarter 2024 earnings call. Our first as a public company. My name is Luca Harper and ventures, Chief investment Officer, and joining me on the call. Today are Bill High School are Chief Executive Officer, and Dave Yavlinskiy, Our Chief Financial Officer.

Earlier. This morning, we issued a press release announcing our financial results, which is available on our Investor Relations website, along with a supplemental slide presentation are reminded that certain statements made today may be forward looking statements. These statements are made based upon management's current expectations and beliefs concerning future events impacting the company and.

And therefore involve a number of uncertainties and risks, including but not limited to those described in our earnings release Form 10-Q for the period ended September 32024, and other filings with the SEC. Therefore, the actual results of operations or financial condition of the company could differ materially from.

Lucas Harper: Therefore, the actual results of operations or financial condition of the company could differ materially from those expressed or implied in our forward-looking statements. Now I'd like to hand the call over to Bill.

Those expressed or implied in our forward looking statements and now I'd like to hand, the call over to Bill.

Bill Haskell: Thanks, Lucas, and thanks to everyone listening today. I'm Bill Haskell, CEO of Innventure, and we're excited to speak to you on our first earnings call as a public company. Innventure began trading on the Nasdaq in early October after closing our business combination with Learn, and I'd like to thank the entire Innventure team and our partners for their tireless work over the last year to get us to this point. We are incredibly proud of what we've accomplished to date and are very excited about the future.

Bill: Thanks, Lucas and thanks to everyone listening today until high school CEO of indenture, and we're excited to speak to you on our first earnings call as a public company.

Bill: Eventually began trading on the NASDAQ in early October after closing our business combination with learn CW.

Like to thank the entire <unk> venture team and our partners for their tireless work over the last year to get us to this point.

Bill: We are incredibly proud of what we've accomplished to date and are very excited about the future.

Bill Haskell: Today, I'd like to start with an introduction to Innventure, tell you about who we are and why we built our model the way we have, and then provide an update on our family of businesses before passing it to Dave to cover our financials. Let's start with what Innventure is all about and how we plan to create value for our shareholders. Our core strategy is to enable multinational corporations, or MNCs, to commercialize their proprietary technologies for their own strategic advantage. For perspective, the top 100 global MNCs spend over $720 billion a year on R&D, but only a single-digit percentage of that spend results in commercial products. The reason for such a stark statistic is that most large companies are not in the business of creating new companies. Instead, they're focused on the mission of growing and supporting their core business. That is where Innventure comes in.

Bill: Today I'd like to start with an introduction to indenture tell you about who we are and why we built a model the way we have.

Bill: And then provide an update on our family of businesses before passing it to Dave to cover our financials.

Bill: So let's start with what indenture is all about and how we plan to create value for our shareholders.

Bill: Our core strategy is to enable multinational corporations or nmc's <unk>.

To commercialize their proprietary technologies.

Bill: But their own strategic advantage.

Bill: For perspective.

Bill: The top 100 global Mmc's spend over $720 billion a year.

Bill: On R&D.

Bill: But only a single digit percentage of that spend resulting in commercial products.

The reason for such a stark statistic.

Bill: Most large companies are not in the business of creating new companies and instead. They are focused on the mission of growing and supporting their core business.

That is where <unk> comes in.

Bill Haskell: We, as engineers, scientists, and entrepreneurs, founded Innventure to help commercialize breakthrough technologies whose ultimate potential often goes unrealized. We provide value to the multinational by acquiring or licensing their technology and developing a product or solution that is designed to benefit their core business and economics. We'll speak to the specific companies we've created around these technologies in a minute, but the most important takeaway is that Innventure represents a unique way for our shareholders to indirectly invest in our operating companies and capture value as we scale them. We seek early-stage economics, much like startups, but seek late-stage risk. As a public company, not only do we have an enhanced ability to pursue these opportunities, but we believe our company represents a unique and liquid investment option as compared to other common stock or vehicles like venture capital or private equity.

Bill: As engineers scientists and entrepreneurs founded indenture to help commercialize breakthrough technologies with ultra potential often gross unrealized.

Bill: We provide value to the multinational by acquiring or licensing their technology and developing a product or solution that is designed to benefit our core business and economics.

Bill: We will speak to the specific companies with greater around this technology in a minute, but the most important takeaway is that indenture represents a unique way for our shareholders to indirectly invest in our operating companies and capture value as we scale them.

Bill: We seek early stage economics much like startups.

Bill: Late stage risk as a public company not only do we have an enhanced ability to pursue these opportunities, but we believe our company represents a unique and liquid investment option as compared to other common stock or vehicles like venture capital or private equity.

Bill Haskell: Let's discuss what we've accomplished so far. To date, we've started three companies, PureCycle in 2015, AeroFlexx in 2018, and Accelsius in 2022. I'll touch on each briefly, but I'd encourage everyone to review our Analyst Day presentation from earlier this year for a deeper dive into the origin story for each. You'll also be able to hear directly from AeroFlexx CEO, Andy Meyer, and Accelsius CEO, Josh Claman. Let's start with PureCycle, which has commercialized a technology licensed from Procter & Gamble that converts used polypropylene into recycled resin, which is the equivalent of virgin resin used to make new plastic products. This technology provides strategic value to P&G, meeting a sustainability need as well as providing economic value.

Bill: So let's discuss what we've accomplished so far.

Bill: To date, we started three companies pure cycle in 2015 reflects in 2018 and Celsius in 2022.

Bill: I'll touch on each briefly but I'd encourage everyone to review our analyst day presentation from earlier this year for a deeper dive into the origin story for reach.

Bill: You'll also be able to hear directly from <unk>, CEO, Andy Meyer and <unk> CEO Josh claimant.

Bill: Let's start with pure cycle, which is commercialized a technology licensed from Procter <unk> gamble that converts used polypropylene recycled resin, which is the equivalent of Virgin resin used to make new plastic products.

Bill: This technology provides strategic value to P&G meeting, a sustainability need as well as providing economic value.

Bill Haskell: While we took the company public in 2021 and do not have an economic interest today, it was the first proof point validating our mission to build companies that represent billion-dollar-plus enterprise value opportunities. Our second company, AeroFlexx, was also founded based on a technology sourced from Procter & Gamble. The company was started around a novel liquid packaging solution that functions like a rigid bottle made possible with an inflatable airframe. The technology leverages the best attributes of both rigid and flexible packaging to build a product with significant economic and sustainability benefits. The AeroFlexx pack requires up to 70% less virgin plastic than standard liquid packaging and weighs significantly less, which greatly reduces shipping costs. Lastly, it is curbside recyclable where all plastic bottles are accepted, which satisfies sustainability requirements for a broad number of products and end markets.

Bill: While we took the company public in 2021 and does not have an economic interest today. It was the first proof point validating our mission to build companies that represent $1 billion plus enterprise value opportunities.

Bill: Our second company <unk> was also founded based on a technology source from Procter and Gamble.

The company was started around a novel liquid packaging solution.

Bill: It's like a rigid bottle made possible with an inflatable airframe a.

Bill: The technology Leverages, the best attributes of both rigid and flexible packaging to deliver a product with significant economic and sustainability benefits.

Bill: The Arab flex pack requires up to 70% less virgin plastic than standard liquid packaging and waste significantly less.

Bill: Greatly reduces shipping costs.

Bill: Lastly, it is curbside recyclable, where all plastic bottles are accepted which satisfies sustainability requirements for a broad number of products and end markets.

Bill Haskell: Our third company is Accelsius, based in Austin, Texas, which was originally founded on a thermal management technology we acquired from Nokia Bell Labs. Accelsius's technology, known as direct-to-chip two-phase liquid cooling, can essentially replace air conditioning as the primary cooling method for the newest generation of servers created to support the generative AI industry. These latest high-performance chipsets, produced by NVIDIA, AMD, and others, can no longer be cooled efficiently using traditional air conditioning. Accelsius's technology represents a stair-step improvement in data center cooling efficiency and can reduce average energy consumption at data centers by approximately 40%. Even prior to the generative AI boom occurring in the marketplace today, the industry has long grappled with what we call the thermal wall, which is effectively the physical limit for data center server cooling capacity imposed by these very hot processors.

Bill: Our third company has <unk> based in Austin, Texas, which was originally founded on a thermal management technology, we acquired from Nokia Bell Labs.

<unk> technology, known as direct to chip to safe liquid cooling.

Bill: Essentially replace air conditioning as the primary cooling method for the newest generation of servers created to support degenerative AI industry.

Bill: These latest high performance chipsets.

Bill: Reduced by Nvidia AMD and others can no longer be cooled efficiently using traditional air conditioning.

Bill: <unk> technology represents a stair step improvement in data center cooling efficiency and can reduce average energy consumption of data centers by approximately 40%.

Bill: Even prior to degenerative and Idaho occurring in the marketplace today, the industry has long grappled with what we call the thermal wall, which is effectively the physical limit for datacenter server cooling capacity imposed by the very hot processors.

Bill Haskell: We see a tremendous growth opportunity for Accelsius, which went from a standing start in June of 2022 to producing commercial systems that are being delivered to the market today. We're very excited and proud of what we've done at Accelsius, which is also the first company developed under what we call the conglomerate model. That means we own a majority of it today, and we intend to own a majority for the long term. We believe that maintaining majority ownership in the companies we create in the future will maximize long-term value for our shareholders. Dave will speak to this more in his remarks, but the ultimate goal is to consolidate financials and access the underlying cash flows from our businesses to fund not only Innventure, Inc., but future newcos as we go forward, which we believe will compound shareholder value.

Bill: We see a tremendous growth opportunity big Celsius, which went from a standing start in June of 2022 to producing commercial systems that are being delivered to the market today.

Bill: We're very excited and proud of what we've done at <unk>, which is also the first company developed under what we call the conglomerate model.

Bill: That means we own a majority of it today and we intend to own a majority for the long term.

Bill: We believe that maintaining majority ownership in the company as we create in the future will maximize long term value for our shareholders.

Bill: Dave will speak to this more in his remarks, but the ultimate goal is to consolidate financials and access the underlying cash flows from our businesses.

Bill: And not only in venture a future <unk> as we go forward, which we believe will compound shareholder value.

Bill Haskell: Let's discuss how our closed-loop model has helped position Innventure for success. We have purposely designed Innventure's business model to mitigate five key risk factors historically inherent in high-growth venture creation: market, technology, adoption, funding, and operational execution. Our closed-loop model is designed to help mitigate these risk factors and act as a value creation flywheel to found and grow disruptive companies. We call this the science of company building. Our partnerships with multinational corporations are key to mitigating the first three risks, market, technology, and adoption. Let's start with market risk.

Bill: Now, let's discuss how our closed loop model has helped position indenture for success.

Bill: We have purposely designed and ventures business model to mitigate five key risk factors historically inherent in high growth venture creation.

Bill: Market.

Bill: Technology.

Bill: Adoption.

Bill: <unk> and operational execution.

Our closed loop model is designed to help mitigate these risk factors and act as a value creation flywheel to found and grow disruptive companies.

Bill: We call this the science of company building.

Our partnerships with multinational corporations are key to mitigating the first three risks market technology and adoption.

Bill: Let's start with market risk.

Bill Haskell: MNCs, by their scale and nature, constantly listen to the needs of the market and have a wealth of data that provides visibility into end market demand that a typical startup would likely not be able to access. The MNC uses its knowledge to identify significant unmet market needs, which as a valued collaboration partner, Innventure is typically granted unique access to. The second key risk factor is technology. Unlike traditional startups that start from scratch, many of the technologies we evaluate are many years and tens of millions of USD into development. We look to acquire technologies that have been proven to work, which helps mitigate the risks attributable to commercializing disruptive technologies. Further, Innventure should not have to assume the majority of the initial financial risk related to the invention of the technologies.

Bill: Mmc's by their scale in nature.

Bill: Constantly listen to the needs of the market and have a wealth of data that provides visibility into end market demand that a typical startup would likely not be able to access.

Bill: MMC use this knowledge to identify significant unmet market needs, which is a valued collaboration partner indenture is typically granted unique access to.

Bill: The second key risk factor with technology.

Bill: Unlike traditional startups that start from scratch many of the technologies, we evaluate our many years and tens of millions of dollars into development.

Bill: We look to acquire technologies that have been proven to work, which helps mitigate the risks attributable to commercializing disruptive technologies further inventors should not have to assume the majority of the initial financial risks related to the invention of <unk> technologies.

Bill Haskell: Third, our MNC partners often help catalyze broader adoption of the end product by becoming an early customer or assisting with offtake. They have considerable brand recognition and scale, which drives immediate consumer awareness. Innventure also benefits from their significant sales and marketing channels, which is substantial as compared to a typical startup. Next, let me address funding as a differentiation point. As I mentioned, our plan is to fund Innventure newcos from inception through to commercialization off our own balance sheet, which helps us maintain majority ownership along the way. This is important to our end shareholders in two important ways. First is that Innventure can maintain operating control of our newcos, which is critical for early-stage company success. The second is for the economic value opportunity. We seek to capture the outsized value for our shareholders that can come with founding a successful company.

Bill: Third our MSC partners, often help catalyze broader adoption of the end product that becoming an early customer or assisting with offtake.

Bill: Have considerable brand recognition and scale, which drives immediate consumer awareness and venture also benefits from their significant sales and marketing channels, which are substantial as compared to a typical startup.

Bill: Next let me address funding as a differentiation point.

Bill: As I mentioned, our plan is to fund and venture new colors from inception through to commercialization off our own balance sheet, which helps us maintain majority ownership along the way. This is important to our shareholders in two important ways.

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Bill: Is that an adventure and maintained operating control of 11 hotels, which is critical for early stage companies success with.

The second is for the economic value opportunity, we seek to capture the outsized value for our shareholders that can come with funding a successful company.

Bill Haskell: Lastly, there's operational execution risk mitigation. Our team is comprised of professionals with a deep pool of talent and experience in taking companies from inception to commercial scale. Rather than backing first-time entrepreneurs, we rely on our executives that have founded and successfully commercialized several companies during their careers. This level of expertise, paired with the vast marketing resources and market data of our MNC partnerships, is key to Innventure's past success and positions us well for future growth. We believe this model is highly differentiated in the marketplace and one of the key tenets that we expect will deliver value for our shareholders. Let's touch on how we've designed our model to synthesize the vast amounts of data available to us and determine which opportunities fall into our strike zone. As I noted earlier, risk mitigation is woven into our DNA.

Bill: Lastly, there is operational execution risk mitigation.

Bill: Our team is comprised of professionals with a deep pool of talent and experience and taking companies from inception to commercial scale.

Bill: Rather than backing firsthand entrepreneurs, we rely on our executives that have founded and successfully commercialized several companies during their careers.

Bill: This level of expertise paired with the vast marketing resources and market data of our MNC partnerships is key to <unk> past success.

Bill: <unk> as well for future growth.

Bill: Overall, we believe this model is highly differentiated in the marketplace and one of the key tenants that we expect will deliver value for our shareholders.

Bill: Now, let's touch on how we've designed our model to synthesize the vast amounts of data available to us and determine which opportunities fall into our strike zone.

Bill: As I noted earlier risk mitigation is woven into our DNA, we only pursue opportunities that we believe at $1 billion enterprise value potential.

Bill Haskell: We only pursue opportunities that we believe have billion-dollar enterprise value potential. We are looking for a compelling unmet customer need that is backed by a proven industrial technology. We believe the technology solutions we pursue have significant and quantifiable value generation opportunities and are backed by established market data from our MNC partners. The years of R&D resources and millions of dollars of capital invested into these technologies helps to significantly mitigate risk before we even begin our evaluation. Most importantly, there needs to be a clear path to material profitability. I'll say it again, we are aiming to bring billion-dollar-plus enterprise value opportunities to the market, and the opportunities we analyze must meet that criteria, in our opinion, before we deploy capital towards company formation. This steadfast discipline has been the key to our success and will remain in place moving forward.

We're looking for a compelling unmet customer need that is backed by a proven industrial technology.

Bill: We believe the technology installations, we pursue have significant and quantifiable value generation opportunities and are backed by established market data from our MSP partners.

Bill: The years of R&D resources, and millions of dollars of capital invested into these technologies.

Helps to significantly mitigate risk before we even begin our evaluation.

Bill: Most importantly, there needs to be a clear path to material profitability I'll say it again, we are aiming to bring $1 billion plus enterprise value opportunities to the market and the opportunities we analyze must meet that criteria in our opinion before we deploy capital towards company formation.

Bill: The steadfast discipline has been the key to our success.

Remain in place moving forward.

Bill Haskell: With that background on Innventure, let me now provide updates on our individual businesses for Q3, starting with Accelsius. As a reminder, Accelsius is the first Innventure company operated under the conglomerate model, where we own a majority of the business, approximately 55% as of today. This ownership stake takes into account the Series A funding that Accelsius announced yesterday. As I mentioned, we see a huge growth opportunity in the liquid cooling space, and that vision is being validated by the market. We are happy to announce that Accelsius has started delivering systems to customers in Q3 of this year. I'd remind everyone that we started Accelsius in 2022. To be generating revenue in under 30 months since founding is something we are incredibly proud of, and it is a testament to Innventure's closed-loop model.

Bill: With that background on adventure, let me now provide updates on our individual businesses for Q3, starting with Excelsior.

Bill: As a reminder, <unk> is the first in venture company operated under the conglomerate model, where we own a majority of the business approximately 55% as of today.

Bill: This ownership stake takes into account the series a funding that <unk> announced yesterday.

Bill: As I mentioned, we see a huge growth opportunity in the liquid cooling space and that vision is being validated by the market. We are happy to announce that <unk> has started delivering systems to customers in Q3 of this year.

Bill: I would remind everyone that we started <unk> in 2022.

Bill: To be generating revenue in under 30 months since founding is something we are incredibly proud of and it is a testament to <unk> ventures closed loop model.

Bill Haskell: What's even more exciting than the rapid commercialization of the company is the pipeline of opportunities we have ahead of us. While it is still too early to get into specifics, Accelsius is in discussions with many of the top players within the data center ecosystem. The company's booth at industry events such as OCP Global Summit, Digital Infrastructure Network in London, and the upcoming Data Center World in Atlanta has been a popular destination, which furthers our conviction that the technology is truly disruptive and presents a compelling growth opportunity. Josh and his entire team are doing highly impressive things at Accelsius, and we look forward to updating the market on their progress in the future. Now shifting to AeroFlexx. Innventure owns approximately 31% of the company today, and it is carried on our balance sheet as an equity method company.

Bill: What's even more exciting than the rapid commercialization of the company is the pipeline of opportunities. We have ahead of us.

Bill: While it is still too early to get into specifics.

Bill: <unk> is in discussions with many of the top players within the data center ecosystem.

Bill: The company's booth industry events, such as Otp Global Summit digital infrastructure network in London, and the upcoming data Center World in Atlanta has been a popular destination, which furthers our conviction that the technology is truly disruptive and presents a compelling growth opportunity.

Josh and his entire team are doing highly impressive things that <unk> and we look forward to updating the market on their progress in the future.

Bill: Now shifting to Arrow flex and venture owns approximately 31% of the company today and it is carried on our balance sheet as an equity method company.

Bill Haskell: While we don't plan to disclose the same level of financial details as we plan to do for the businesses we consolidate, the AeroFlexx business is a story we love telling. The product is designed to meet a significant market need, and the commercialization of the technology is another great example of Innventure's closed-loop approach with MNCs. The company's manufacturing operations are fully developed, with the capacity to manufacture tens of millions of packages on an annual basis. We are proud to announce that AeroFlexx is currently delivering product and building a pipeline of demand. We expect to see AeroFlexx products available in the marketplace in 2025. We are proud of this milestone achievement. I'd like to put AeroFlexx's growth potential into perspective.

Bill: While we don't plan to disclose the same level of financial details as we plan to do for the business as we consolidate <unk> business is a story with love talent.

Product is designed to meet the significant market need and the commercialization of the technology is another great example of an ventures closed loop approach with <unk>.

Bill: The company's manufacturing operations are fully developed with the capacity to manufacture tens of millions of packages on an annual basis. We are proud to announce that <unk> is currently delivering product and building a pipeline of demand.

Bill: We expect to see RF flex products available in the marketplace in 2025.

Bill: We are proud of this milestone achievement, but I'd like to put <unk> growth potential into perspective for illustrative purposes.

Bill Haskell: For illustrative purposes, a single household brand from a company such as P&G might sell well over 500 million units a year globally, which is more than 10 times the volume we believe is required to make AeroFlexx profitable. Needless to say, there is a vast addressable market opportunity for the company, and we are only in the very early stages of capturing that opportunity. 2024 has also been a pivotal year for AeroFlexx's global growth plans. First, in February, the company announced a partnership with Dynapack Asia, and in June announced a partnership with Chemipack to deliver its liquid packaging solution to the European market. Finally, as announced yesterday, AeroFlexx received the highest standard and rating under the Brand Reputation through Compliance Global Standards, or BRCGS, and is certified as double A grade.

Bill: Purposes, a single household brand from a company such as P&G might sell well over 500 million units a year globally, which is more than 10 times. The volume. We believe is required to make it reflects profitable.

Bill: Needless to say there was a vast addressable market opportunity for the company and we are only in the very early stages of capturing that opportunity.

Bill: 2024 has also been a pivotal year for Arrow flex a global growth plans.

Bill: First in February the company announced the partnership with Diamondback Asia and in June announced the partnership with coming back to deliver its liquid packaging solution to the European market.

Bill: Finally, as announced yesterday <unk> received the highest standard in rating under the brand reputation through compliance global standard or B our CGS.

And is certified double a grade.

Bill Haskell: This represents the fourth consecutive year the Westchester manufacturing site has achieved the highest rating, which is an important credential MNCs look for in a packaging supplier. Great progress is being made at AeroFlexx, we expect many exciting things in the future. Congratulations to Andrew Meyer and his team on the success and execution to date. Now let's shift to one of the most exciting differentiators of our business model, our robust pipeline of multinational corporation relationships and how those relationships could translate into opportunities. Today, we have two ongoing MNC partners, Procter & Gamble and Nokia. Beyond that, there are seven MNCs that have shown us at least one opportunity over the last 12 months. This network includes widely recognizable corporations across large industries such as energy, industrials, telecom, and aerospace and defense.

Bill: This represents the fourth consecutive year, the West Chester manufacturing site has achieved the highest rating which is an important credential MMC. It look for in our packaging supplier.

Bill: Great progress is being made at <unk> and we expect many exciting things in the future.

Bill: Congratulations to Andy Myers, and his team on their success and execution to date.

Bill: Now, let's shift to one of the most exciting differentiators of our business model, our robust pipeline of multinational corporation relationships and how those relationships could translate into opportunities.

Bill: Today, we have two ongoing MNC partners, Procter and Gamble and Nokia.

Beyond that there are <unk> that have shown us at least one opportunity over the last 12 months.

Bill: This network includes widely recognizable corporations across large industries, such as energy industrial telecom and aerospace and defense.

Bill Haskell: While expanding this network continues to be one of our top priorities, the beauty of our model is that we don't need dozens of active partners to be successful. We only need a handful of high-quality, high-conviction partners that believe in the Innventure model and understand the strategic value Innventure can deliver for their organizations. These MNC relationships translate into a highly active flow of technology opportunities delivered to the top of our evaluation funnel. Each opportunity then moves through our Down-select analysis, a rigorous discipline employed to identify what we believe are the best technologies that overlap with the largest and most achievable value opportunities. It is important to remember that we don't focus on the exact number of technologies spread across the different phases of Down-select at any given time, which can vary significantly from quarter to quarter.

Bill: While expanding this network continues to be one of our top priorities.

Bill: Beauty of our model is that we don't need dozens of active partners to be successful, we only need a handful of high quality high conviction partners that believe in the adventure model and understand the strategic value and venture can deliver for their organizations.

Bill: These MMC relationships translate into a highly active flow of technology opportunities to deliver to the top of our evaluation funnel.

Each opportunity that moves through a down select analysis, a rigorous discipline employed to identify what we believe.

Bill: Technologies that overlap with the largest and most achievable value opportunities.

Bill: It is important to remember that we don't focus on the exact number of technologies spread across the different phases of down select at any given time, which can vary significantly from quarter to quarter. The most important factor for us is the quality of the opportunities, which has continued to increase as our partnerships evolve.

Bill Haskell: The most important factor for us is the quality of the opportunities, which has continued to increase as our MNC partnerships evolve. As we discussed in depth at our Analyst Day, the overwhelming majority of the opportunities that come into the funnel do not meet the stringent criteria we've established to initiate new company formation. Innventure maintains a strict discipline to abandon opportunities even at the 11th hour if they don't meet our standards, which positions us to succeed. Best of all, even opportunities that reach the final stage but ultimately fail Down-select do not tie up capital or drive significant expense. On the other hand, the rare gems that do meet our standards become newcos that we believe have proven technology and a billion-dollar-plus enterprise value potential.

Bill: As we discussed in depth at our analyst day, the overwhelming majority of the opportunities that come into the funnel did not meet the stringent criteria, we've established to initiate new company formation.

Bill: And venture maintains a strict discipline to abandon opportunities even at the 11th hour if they don't meet our standards, which positions us to succeed.

Bill: First of all even opportunities that reached the final stage, but ultimately fail down select to not tie up capital or drive significant expense.

Bill: On the other hand, the rare gems that do meet our standards become newco that we believe our proven technology and a $1 billion plus enterprise value potential.

Bill Haskell: It's the model we've spent our careers optimizing, and we cannot be more excited as we aim to create value for new and future shareholders. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Dave Yablunosky, to review our financials. Dave? Thanks, Bill. Good morning, everyone. My name is Dave Yablunosky. I'm Innventure's Chief Financial Officer, and today I'll be sharing with you an overview of our Q3 financials. As Bill mentioned, to date, we've started three companies: PureCycle in 2015, AeroFlexx in 2018, and Accelsius in 2022. My focus for today's discussion will center around how we will report our financials for our operating companies and what you can expect to see from us in the future. Let's start with our reporting structure. Our first operating company, PureCycle Technologies, is no longer reported in our financial statements.

Bill: It's the model, we extended our careers optimizing and we cannot be more excited as we aim to create value for new and future shareholders.

Speaker Change: With that I'd like to turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, David <unk> to review our financials Dave.

Speaker Change: Thanks, Bill and good morning, everyone. My name is Dave the Apple at Husky Ventures, Chief Financial Officer, and today I'll be sharing with you an overview of our third quarter financials.

Speaker Change: As Bill mentioned to date, we started three companies pure cycle in 2015 Arrow flex in 2018, and a Celsius in 2022.

Speaker Change: So my focus for today's discussion will center around how we will report our financials for our operating companies and what you can expect to see from us in the future.

Speaker Change: Let's start with our reporting structure.

Speaker Change: Our first operating company pure cycle technologies is no longer reported in our financial statements.

Bill Haskell: While we are the general partner of a fund that is invested in PureCycle shares, Innventure itself no longer holds an economic interest in the company. Innventure took PureCycle public in 2021 and returned the value created to the PureCycle shareholders. For our second operating company, AeroFlexx, we use the equity method of accounting to record their financial results. As such, you will see our share of AeroFlexx's net income on the equity income line of the income statement and in the investment line of the balance sheet. Any dividends received from AeroFlexx in the future will appear as such on the cash flow statement. The financial results for our third operating company, Accelsius, are fully consolidated. The non-controlled portion is recorded on the non-controlling interest line of the balance sheet and the non-controlling interest line of the income statement.

Speaker Change: While we are the general partner of a fund that is invested in pure cycle shares in venture itself no longer holds an economic interest in the company.

Speaker Change: Adventure took pure cycle public in 2021 and returned the value created to the pure cycle shareholders.

Speaker Change: For our second operating company Aero Flex, we use the equity method of accounting to record their financial results.

Speaker Change: As such you will see our share of <unk> net income on the equity income line of the income statement and in the investment line of the balance sheet.

Speaker Change: Any dividends received from Arrow flex in the future will appear as such on the cash flow statement.

Speaker Change: The financial results for our third operating company a Celsius are fully consolidated.

Speaker Change: The Noncontrolling portion is recorded on the Noncontrolling interest line of the balance sheet and the Noncontrolling interest line of the income statement.

Bill Haskell: As Bill mentioned, Accelsius is currently delivering systems to the market. We expect product sales to ramp as Josh and the team continue to execute on their go-to-market strategy. Lastly, Innventure Corporate earns a management fee from our general partner role in the InVentus ESG fund. These fees are reflected in the management fee line of the consolidated income statement. Moving to expense, the operating expense line reflects costs associated with Innventure Corporate and Accelsius. Innventure Corporate provides many of the service and support functions for our operating companies, especially when they are in the very early stages of their development. Operating Innventure in this way is capital efficient and highly scalable. More importantly, this allows our operating companies to focus on what they do best, the production and sale of product with a keen focus on the customer.

Speaker Change: As Bill mentioned the Celsius is currently delivering systems to the market and.

Speaker Change: And we expect product sales to ramp as Josh and the team continued to execute on their go to market strategy.

Speaker Change: And lastly in venture corporate owned some are earns a management fee from our general partner role in the Adventist ESG Fund.

Speaker Change: These fees are reflected in the management fee line of the consolidated income statement.

Moving to expense the operating expense line reflects costs associated with adventure corporate and Celsius.

And venture corporate provides many of the service and support functions for our operating companies, especially when they are in the very early stages of their development.

Operating adventure in this way is capital efficient and highly scalable.

Speaker Change: More importantly, this allows our operating companies to focus on what they do best production.

Speaker Change: Production and sale of product with a keen focus on the customer.

Dave Yablunosky: We expect this to be an important driver of margin expansion as we launch, commercialize, and scale new companies in the future. Hopefully, this overview helps. Now let's shift our focus to our capital position. Prior to the close of the third quarter, Innventure entered into investment agreements with certain qualified investors for the issuance and sale of approximately $11 million of Series B preferred stock. Proceeds from this offering augmented the $11.3 million of trust assets that were not redeemed in connection with the previously announced business combination last October. This happened after the close of Q3. Innventure has also entered into a conditional $50 million secured line of credit with Western Technology Investment, WTI.

Speaker Change: We expect this to be an important driver of margin expansion as we launch commercialize and scale new companies in the future.

Speaker Change: Hopefully this overview helps.

Speaker Change: Now, let's shift our focus to our capital position.

Speaker Change: Prior to the close of the third quarter and venture entered into investment agreements with certain qualified investors for the issuance and sale of approximately $11 million of series B preferred stock.

Speaker Change: Proceeds from this offering augment at $11 3 million of trust assets that were not redeemed in connection with the previously announced business combination last October this happened after the close of the third quarter.

Speaker Change: Inventory has also entered into a conditional $50 million secured line of credit with Western technology investment WTS.

Dave Yablunosky: We'll look to draw on this line of credit in multiple installments between now and H1 2025, subject to the satisfaction of certain conditions and achievement of certain commercial milestones. In connection with the business combination agreement last year, the company entered into a conditional standby equity purchase agreement with Yorkville Advisors, giving Innventure the option to issue and sell to Yorkville up to $75 million worth of the company's Class A common stock, subject to certain limitations and conditions. The WTI line of credit, the private placement, along with our agreement with Yorkville, strengthens Innventure's financial position. Moving to capital allocation, which we presented during our Analyst Day last April. We reiterate that discipline and risk mitigation is part of our DNA, and we take that approach as we look to scale our operating companies.

Speaker Change: We'll look to draw on this line of credit in multiple installments between now and the first half of 2025 subject to the satisfaction of certain conditions and achievement of certain commercial milestones.

Speaker Change: Finally in connection with the business combination agreement last year. The company entered into a conditional standby equity purchase agreement with Yorkville advisors, giving.

Giving adventure the option to issue and sell to Yorkville up to $75 million worth of the company's class a common stock subject to certain limitations and conditions.

Speaker Change: The <unk> line of credits.

Divot placement, along with our agreement with Yorkville strengthens and ventures financial position.

Speaker Change: Now moving to capital allocation.

Which we presented during our analyst day last April.

Speaker Change: We'd reiterate.

Speaker Change: That discipline and risk mitigation is part of our DNA and we take that approach as we look to scale our operating companies.

Dave Yablunosky: We will aim to pace capital investments with revenue visibility, and we will be highly focused on cost management to minimize early-stage expense. Again, this is one of the main benefits of our closed-loop model as our collaborations with our MNCs are designed to help reduce much of this operating risk. We will also focus on supporting our operating companies with the goal of funding off of our own balance sheet. This aligns with the conglomerate model that Bill spoke about earlier. We believe our operating companies have tremendous growth potential, and by maintaining long-term control over them, we will have an opportunity to unlock significant shareholder value. Finally, as we continue to scale and launch new companies, we plan to consolidate their cash flows and, in the future, may look to return excess capital to our shareholders. That concludes our prepared remarks.

Speaker Change: We will aim to pace capital investments with revenue visibility and we will be highly focused on cost management to minimize early stage expense.

Speaker Change: Again. This is one of the main benefits of our closed loop model as our collaborations with our Mmc's are designed to help reduce much of this operating risk.

Speaker Change: We will also focus on supporting our operating companies with the goal of funding off of our own balance sheet.

Speaker Change: This aligns with the conglomerate model that bill spoke about earlier.

Speaker Change: We believe our operating companies have tremendous growth potential and by maintaining long term control over them, we will have an opportunity to unlock significant shareholder value.

Speaker Change: Finally, as we continue to scale and launch new companies, we plan to consolidate their cash flows and in the future may look to return excess capital to our shareholders.

That concludes our prepared remarks, we believe there are many exciting things on the horizon for adventure and we look forward to executing on our strategy and delivering for our shareholders.

Dave Yablunosky: We believe there are many exciting things on the horizon for Innventure, and we look forward to executing on our strategy and delivering for our shareholders. Now we will open up the call for Q&A.

Speaker Change: Now we will open up the call for Q&A.

Operator: Certainly, our first question comes from the line of Chip Moore from Roth Capital Partners. Your question, please.

Speaker Change: Certainly.

Speaker Change: And our first question comes from the line of Chip Moore from Roth Capital Partners. Your question. Please.

Chip Moore: Morning. Thanks for taking the question. I guess first, congratulations to everybody just for getting to this point. I wanted to start with Accelsius. The liquid cooling market's been moving very, very fast since we heard from you at the Investor Day earlier this year. Maybe just an update there on the potential for that to ramp, right? Your first delivery this quarter, great to see. Can you talk about, is that more of a proof point, sort of de-pilot or ability to grow with that customer? How should we think about revenue ramp potential in the coming quarters?

Chip Moore: Good morning, Thanks for taking question I guess first congratulations to everybody just forget to this point.

Speaker Change: I wanted to start with <unk>.

The liquid cooling market's been moving very very fast since we heard from you at the Investor Day earlier this year, maybe just.

An update.

Speaker Change: <unk>.

Speaker Change: The potential for that to ramp Greg Your first delivery of this quarter great to see can you talk about.

Speaker Change: Is that more of a proof point sort of the pilot.

Speaker Change: <unk> to grow with that customer and how should we think about <unk>.

Speaker Change: Revenue ramp potential in the coming quarters.

Dave Yablunosky: Thanks, Chip. I appreciate the question. First of all, we've just started delivering, as you mentioned, in Q3. Our initial orders are really for small quantities for evaluation purposes, the various clients can test out the systems and make sure they perform against the specifications. We've targeted partners that have significant scale, various VARs, OEMs, et cetera, that have a significant multiplication effect. If you look at Gartner, Forrester, and other consultants in the marketplace, they projected just the liquid cooling sector to be on order of $5 billion by 2027. It was $3 billion in that same time window 18 months ago, now people are talking about perhaps as large as $7 billion. As one of the only players in the space, we are seeing significant demand. It's going to be difficult to project the timing of the ramp, honestly.

Speaker Change: Sure. Thanks Chip I appreciate the question so first of all we.

Speaker Change: Just started delivering as you mentioned in the third quarter. Our initial orders are really for small quantities for evaluation purposes. The various clients can test up the systems that make sure they perform as against the specifications.

Speaker Change: But we've targeted partners that have significance scale.

Speaker Change: Various vars Oems et cetera that have a significant multiplication effect. So if you look at Gartner Forrester or another.

Speaker Change: All of us in the marketplace they projected.

Speaker Change: Just the liquid cooling sector to be on order of $5 billion by 2027.

Speaker Change: It was $3 billion in that same time window 18 months ago, and now people are talking about perhaps its largest 7 billion and.

Speaker Change: And as one of the only players in the space, we are seeing significant demand.

Speaker Change: It's going to be difficult to project the timing of the ramp promised honestly.

Dave Yablunosky: If you look at the book of business and the demand that we have currently, we anticipate some meaningful growth going forward. I know that is not as specific as you would perhaps like, but I think that is an accurate portrayal of where we are.

Speaker Change: But if you look at the book of business and the demand that we have currently we anticipate some meaningful meaningful growth going forward.

Speaker Change: That's not as specific as you perhaps like but.

Speaker Change: And I think thats, an accurate portrayal of where we are.

Chip Moore: Yeah, I appreciate that. That's helpful, Bill. I guess maybe on the sort of these initial evals, is there a sense of how long that process takes or are the customers needing to move faster in some cases, or I guess, what's the early feedback?

Speaker Change: I appreciate that that's helpful Bill and I guess, maybe on the.

Speaker Change: These initial eval.

Speaker Change: Thanks.

Speaker Change: How long that process takes or are the customers needed to move faster in some cases or I guess, what's the early feedback.

Dave Yablunosky: Yeah, it is interesting, actually. The systems that we are delivering, we are delivering as, I will call it, white glove systems, where we are sending a representative of the company to actually babysit the system, make sure they are collecting all of the requisite data, and really it only takes a few weeks to evaluate a rack of equipment and make sure it is performing according to the guidelines and the expectations.

Speaker Change: Yes, it's interesting actually the systems that we're delivering we're delivering as I'll call. It white glove systems, where we're sending a representative for the company to actually beta set the system make sure they're collecting all of the requisite data and really only takes a few weeks to evaluate us.

Hey, a rack of equipment and make sure it's performing according to the to the guidelines and the expectations.

Bill Haskell: It's really the big timing risk is tied to the procurement process for these various large corporations. It's a new product in the marketplace. These large VARs and OEMs have shared with us their projected demand for 2025 and beyond. It's quite impressive. It really just comes down to their ability to engage and issue these larger scale purchase orders. The timeline from delivering a, I'll call it an evaluation system, which by the way, is a fully functioning commercial system, and then deploying the larger scale is quite short.

Speaker Change: It's really the big timing risk is.

Speaker Change: Tied to the procurement process for these various large corporations, it's a new product in the marketplace.

Speaker Change: And they have shared with us these large bars and Oems have shared with us their projected demand for for 2025 and beyond it is quite impressive.

Speaker Change: It just comes down to their ability to engage an issue. These these larger scale purchase orders, but the timeline from delivering a I'll call it under valuation system, which by the way, it's a full fully functioning commercial system.

Speaker Change: And then deploying the largest scale is quite short.

Chip Moore: That's very helpful. Appreciate it. In terms of Accelsius itself, scaling up the funding you announced yesterday, I imagine that helps, but just give us an update on where the company stands in terms of build-out of resources and then that funding, is that sufficient near term or how should we think about that?

Speaker Change: That's very helpful. Appreciate it.

Speaker Change: And in terms of associates itself sort of.

Speaker Change: Scaling up the funding.

Speaker Change: Announced yesterday I imagine that helps but just give us an update on.

Speaker Change: Where the company stands in terms of build out of resources and then that funding.

Speaker Change: Is that sufficient.

Speaker Change: Near term or how should we think about that.

Bill Haskell: Two pieces to that I would say. One is the manufacturing capability to ramp and the other is the capital required to support that. They were oversubscribed, as we mentioned in the release that went out yesterday morning. We were targeting $20 million. We received over $24 million and we could have taken in more capital had we wanted to. Ultimately, there's a lot of enthusiasm for this space, as you can appreciate, just given the trajectory of the overall marketplace. We intend to continue to support Accelsius off our own balance sheet, as Dave mentioned in his comments prior. They're also will be looking to augment that with a working capital line. You can appreciate that the just inventory growth and so forth is relatively capital intensive, and so they'll be seeking a separate operating line for that kind of growth.

Speaker Change: Yes, so two two pieces to that I would say one is the manufacturing capability to ramp and the other is the capital required to support that so.

So they were oversubscribed as we mentioned in the release that went out yesterday morning.

We were targeting.

Speaker Change: 20 million, we received over 24, and we could have taken in more capital heavily heavily wanted to so ultimately there is a lot of enthusiasm for the space. As you can appreciate just given the trajectory of the overall marketplace.

Speaker Change: We intend to continue to support <unk> off our own balance sheet as Dave mentioned in his comments prior and there also will be looking to augment that with a working capital line. You can appreciate that the inventory growth and so forth is relatively capital intensive and so there'll be seeking a separate.

Speaker Change: In line.

Speaker Change: For that kind of growth.

Bill Haskell: In terms of their normal OPEX between what they have and what we're able to provide, we should be able to provide the requisite capital they need to scale. On the manufacturing side, they're currently at a point where they can manufacture sufficient quantities of systems to get through H1 2025. We are in discussions with a number of contract manufacturers that already service this industry and are quite familiar, in fact, to the various VARs and OEMs that we're interacting with. They can handle very significant quantities of production. We have clients that could order as many as 1,000 racks a week. That's their, I'll say, their aggregate demand. We will be relying upon contract manufacturers to service that.

Speaker Change: But in terms of their normal opex between what they have and what we're able to provide.

Speaker Change: Should be able to provide the requisite capital they need to scale.

Speaker Change: Factoring side.

Speaker Change: They are currently at a point, where they can manufacture sufficient quantities of systems to get through the first half of 2025.

Speaker Change: And so we are in discussions with a number of contract manufacturers that already serviced this industry.

Speaker Change: And are quite familiar in fact to the various foreign Oems that were interacting with.

Speaker Change: They can handle very significant quantities of production.

Speaker Change: We have clients that.

Speaker Change: Could order as many as a thousand racks a week that's there.

Speaker Change: I'll say their aggregate demand.

Speaker Change: So we will be relying upon conduct frac manufacturers to service that.

Bill Haskell: Additionally, we're planning over the next 12 to 18 months to increase our manufacturing scale by roughly an order of magnitude above what it is today.

But additionally, we're planning over the next 12 to 18 months to increase our manufacturing scale by a roughly in order of magnitude above what it is what it is today.

Chip Moore: Great. That's very helpful, Bill. Maybe if I could switch to AeroFlexx. I think first deliveries you just announced here at the end of October. Obviously that market I think is a little more cautious, right, given the customer. I think you mentioned expectations to see product on the shelf next year. Just what's driving the confidence there? Should we expect to see some sort of an order announcement first or how should we think about that process?

Great that's very helpful.

Speaker Change: Maybe if I could switch to arrow flex.

Speaker Change: I think first deliveries you just announced here at the end of October.

Speaker Change: Obviously that market I think it's a little more cautious strength given the.

Speaker Change: Our customer.

Speaker Change: But I think you mentioned expectations to get some to see product on the shelf next year just.

Speaker Change: Whats driving the competence there should we expect to see some sort of order announcement first or how should we think about that process yes.

Bill Haskell: Yeah, good question, Chip. We started delivering here in the last handful of weeks actually the first product into the marketplace. The big gating item for a lot of these large multinationals are these certifications that we just announced, in fact yesterday that we received. To your point, they're a conservative lot, these large CPG companies. It's a tremendously large marketplace as you can appreciate. It's around $400 billion a year in terms of consumer packaged goods products. We've got a massive total addressable market. There have been two, I would say, things that have impacted the path to commercialization for AeroFlexx. One is a new requirement that came upon us a couple of years ago to make the package itself recyclable.

Speaker Change: Yes. Good good question chip. So we started delivering here in the last handful of weeks actually the first product into the marketplace.

Speaker Change: The big gating item for a lot of these large multinationals are these certifications that we just announced in fact yesterday that we received.

Speaker Change: To your point, they're a conservative lot.

Speaker Change: These large CPG companies.

Speaker Change: It's a tremendous large marketplaces you can appreciate it's around 400 billion a year in terms of consumer packaged goods goods products. So we've got a massive total addressable market.

Speaker Change: But there have been too I would say things that have impacted the path to commercialization for Aero Flex one is a new requirement that came upon us a couple of years ago to make the package itself recyclable. The initial view was that just the source reduction.

Bill Haskell: The initial view was that just the source reduction, about 70% less plastic going into the manufacturing of the bottles or packages themselves would've been sufficient to support various sustainability goals. We found later and the market determined later that it also needed to be recyclable. We had to completely redesign the package to make the package itself recyclable and to make it so that we could make it out of recycled content. That was about a 2-year process to completely redesign the product and go through the various certifications, make sure that it was curbside recyclable, and we had to go through quite a rigorous testing protocol to support that, and then finally to get these certifications that we literally just achieved in the last couple of days. Those are kind of the gating items.

Speaker Change: About 70% less plastic.

Speaker Change: Going into the manufacturing of the bottles of our packages themselves would have been sufficient to support various sustainability goals.

But.

Speaker Change: We found later in the market determined later that it also needed to be recyclable. So we had to completely redesign the package to make the package itself recyclable and to make it so that we could make it out of recycled content.

And that was about a two year process to completely redesign the product and go through the various certifications.

Speaker Change: It showed that it was curbside recyclable and we had to go through a quite a rigorous testing protocol to support that and then finally to get the certifications that we literally just achieved in the last couple of days. So those are kind of the gating items.

Bill Haskell: Now that all of that is behind us, we would anticipate we would start seeing some meaningful commercial orders going forward. Yes, over the next Q1 or Q2, I would expect us to see some meaningful orders and some announcements around those. The customers are a little bit careful about giving us permission to tell who they are. If they do, we'd be happy to announce who they are. Up to now, we haven't been given the latitude to discuss the various specific customers, but you can appreciate the nature of who they are based on the large players in the marketplace.

Speaker Change: Now that all of that is behind US we would anticipate we start seeing some meaningful commercial orders going forward and so yes over the next quarter or two I would expect us to see some some meaningful orders and some announcements around those.

Speaker Change: The customers are a little bit.

Speaker Change: Careful about.

Speaker Change: Giving us permission to tell who they are.

Speaker Change: If they do we'd be happy to announce who they are but up to now we haven't been.

Speaker Change: Given the latitude to discuss the various specific customers, but you can appreciate the nature of who they are based on.

Speaker Change: The large players in the marketplace.

Chip Moore: Understood. Yeah, that makes sense. Should we think about first orders being more US-based, given the facility there in Ohio? In terms of the international partnerships that are ongoing, are those sort of in parallel or any update on that side?

Speaker Change: Understood understood, yes that makes sense and should we think about first orders being more.

Speaker Change: U S base given the facility there in Ohio, and then in terms of the international partnerships that are ongoing are those sort of in parallel or any update there.

Bill Haskell: Good question. They really are in parallel. We have an initiative in Europe with Chemipack, in Asia with Dynapack, Southeast Asia, and of course, our own sales and marketing force here in the US. We do expect all of these things to occur in parallel. The pipeline, if you kind of dissect it, really is global. We don't have any particular geography that's currently outshining another. These are, of course, by nature, multinational corporations. They have operations all over the planet.

Speaker Change: Yes. Good question. They really are in parallel we have initiated in Europe can be pack in Asia with Diamondback Southeast Asia and of course our own.

Speaker Change: Sales and marketing force here in the U S.

Speaker Change: So we do expect all of these things to occur in parallel the pipeline. If you kind of dissect. It really is global we don't have any.

Speaker Change: A particular geography Thats currently out shining. Another these are of course by nature, a multinational corporations. So they have operations all over the planet.

Chip Moore: Perfect. If I could ask one last one, just on the pipeline, I guess the 7 multinationals sharing with you, in addition to the 2 you have, just any sense of how many opportunities are being explored right now and any rough sense of where those sit in the down-select process?

Speaker Change: Perfect.

Speaker Change: Could I ask one last one.

Speaker Change: Just on the on the pipeline I guess.

Seven multinational sharing with you and then just.

Speaker Change: The two you have.

Just any sense of how.

Speaker Change: How many opportunities are being explored right now.

Speaker Change: Any rough sense of where those sit in the down select process.

Bill Haskell: Yeah. Good question. I think historically, we've evaluated something like 160 opportunities. An opportunity is a combination of a known unmet need in the marketplace, along with a technology that addresses that need. We picked three things out of 160 today. We're pretty fussy about what we pick. What we're realizing, and we've had a lot of demand from a lot of multinationals to engage with us, and that's increasing. The quality of these MNCs is increasing as well. By quality, I don't mean the quality of the company itself, but just, I'll say the match between what their expectations are and what we're looking for. It's really less about the number of multinationals. Really, only a handful would allow us to kind of hit the cadence that we anticipate achieving going forward in terms of new co-creation.

Speaker Change: Yes. Good good question. So I think historically, we've evaluated something like 160 opportunities and an opportunity as a combination of unknown unmet need in the marketplace, along with the technology that addresses that need.

Speaker Change: And we fixed three things out of the 160 today.

Speaker Change: So we're pretty fussy about what we what we pick.

Speaker Change: What we're realizing and we've had a lot of demand from a lot of multinationals to engage with us and thats, increasing and the quality of these <unk> is increasing as well and by quality I don't mean, the quality of the company itself, but just.

Speaker Change: I will say the match between what their expectations are and what we're looking for.

Speaker Change: And so it's really less about the number of multinationals really only a handful would allow us to kind of hit the cadence that we anticipate achieving going forward in terms of new co creation.

Bill Haskell: What we're finding is that the longer we engage with certain multinationals, the better quality of opportunities we see. Again, most things we reject, but for the partners that have engaged fully with us, now the opportunities they provide to us are getting closer and closer to the kind of the things that we're looking for. It's less about a numbers game. It's really more about finding the right quality of partners. Even over the last, I want to say 3 to 6 months, we've seen a big uptick in really highly engaged, high-quality, household name partners that are really enthused about our model based upon seeing what we've done to date with the companies that we've produced so far.

Speaker Change: What we're finding is that the longer we engaged with certain multinationals the better quality of opportunities we see.

Again, most things, we reject but for the partners that have engaged fully with us now than the opportunity. They provide to us are getting closer and closer to kind of the things that we're looking for.

Speaker Change: So it's less about a numbers game, it's really more about finding the right quality of partners.

Speaker Change: And even over the last let's say three to six months, we've seen a big uptick in really highly engaged high quality.

Household named partners that are really enthused about our model based upon what we've done to date with with the companies that we've produced so far.

Chip Moore: Excellent. Appreciate all the color. I'll take the rest of mine offline. Thanks very much.

Speaker Change: Excellent.

Speaker Change: I appreciate all the color.

Speaker Change: I'll take the rest of mine offline, thanks very much.

Bill Haskell: Thank you.

Speaker Change: Thank you.

Operator: Thank you. As a reminder, if you have a question, please press star one one on your telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Nehal Chokshi from Northland Capital Markets. Your question, please.

Thank you and as a reminder, if you have a question. Please press star one on your telephone. Our next question comes from the line of Nikhil <unk> from Northland Capital markets. Your question. Please.

Nehal Chokshi: Thank you. Congrats on becoming a public company. Some questions here on Accelsius. Not too many for the 2. The evaluation customers that have taken in a delivery, I guess there's 1 so far, what are the actual key specifications that they are actually looking at?

Thank you and congrats on becoming a public company.

Speaker Change: Some questions here on Excelsior stops you money, but a few.

Speaker Change: The evaluation customers that have taken then.

Speaker Change: Delivery I guess theres, one so far.

Speaker Change: What are the actual key specifications that they are actually looking at.

Bill Haskell: Yeah. There's a kind of a thermal barrier, I'll call it, in terms of how much heat can you dissipate across the rack of equipment. What we're finding in generative AI is that proximity of these chipsets to one another is very critical because of latency. We're finding much, much more compact and dense chipsets than we had envisioned even a couple of years ago. What they want to see is that we can have fully populated racks. Just to give you some relative view of that, a typical rack up until this last year or so was sort of a 7 or 8 kilowatt rack. Now we have demands for 40, 50, 70, even 100 kilowatt racks, and projected going forward up to maybe 250 kilowatts.

Speaker Change: Yes, so there is a kind of a.

Speaker Change: A thermal barrier I'll call it in terms of how much.

Speaker Change: How much can you dissipate across the <unk>.

Speaker Change: Rack of equipment.

Speaker Change: What we're finding in generative AI is that proximity of these chipsets to one another is very critical because of latency. So we're finding much much more compact and dense chipsets.

Then we had envisioned even a couple of years ago.

Speaker Change: And so what they want to see is that we can have a fully populated related racks and just to give you. Some some relative view of that a typical rack up until the last year or so was sort of a seven or eight kilowatt rack now we have demands for $40 $50 70, even 100 kilowatt racks.

Speaker Change: And projected going forward up to maybe 250 kilowatts. So we're seeing orders of magnitude increase in and sort of the heat flux of capacity that we have to be able to accommodate.

Bill Haskell: We're seeing orders of magnitude increase in sort of the heat flux of capacity that we have to be able to accommodate. We have, in addition to the latest chipsets that we've put into racks with our cooling solution incorporated into them, we also have heat simulators that can generate heat well above and beyond the chipsets that are available today. We can look at 2 or 3 generations out. We've got an ability to demonstrate not only that we can cool these 500 or 600-watt chips, but maybe even 2,000-watt chips that we anticipate coming out over the next couple of years. It's really just about the ability to dissipate the amount of heat that they're anticipating seeing over the next couple of generations of chipsets.

Speaker Change: So we have in addition to the latest chipsets that we've.

Speaker Change: Put into racks with our with our cooling solution.

Speaker Change: And incorporated into them. We also have heat simulators that can generate heat well above and beyond the chipsets that are available today. So we can look at two or three generations out.

Speaker Change: And so we've got an ability to demonstrate not only that we can cool. These.

Speaker Change: 500, 600 watt chips, but maybe even 2000, what chips that we anticipate coming out over the next couple of years.

So it's really just about the ability to dissipate the amount of heat that they are anticipating seeing over the next couple of generations of chipsets.

Chip Moore: Okay. Are they looking to characterize reliability by any chance as well?

Speaker Change: Okay.

Speaker Change: Are they looking to characterize reliability by any chance as well.

Bill Haskell: They are. As you can appreciate, in data centers, they have about five nines of reliability concerns. One of the things that I'm very appreciative of that Josh and his team have done is make these racks of equipment very operationally robust. There's a lot of redundancy built in, and every component of our cooling solution is hot swappable. Ultimately, if there's failure, you can actually swap out a component. For instance, some of these racks have 3 pumps. You can operate on 2, but we have 3. If one of the pumps fails, the rack will continue to cool and continue to operate. You literally can pull a pump out while the system is operating. The load will fall over to the other 2 and continue to operate normally without any degradation.

Speaker Change: They are as you can appreciate in data centers. They have about five nines of reliability concerns and what are the things that I V.

Speaker Change: Very appreciate it Josh and his team have done is make.

These racks of equipment very operationally robust.

Speaker Change: And there's a lot of redundancy built in and every component of our cooling solution is hot swappable. So ultimately if there's failure you can actually swap out a component for instance.

Speaker Change: Some of these racks will have three pumps you can operate on too, but we have three and if one of the pump sales. The rack will continue to cool and continue to operate and you literally can pull a pump out while the system is operating at will.

The load will then fall over to the other two.

Speaker Change: And.

Due to operate normally without any any degradation same thing is true even for the controller boards, where we can map the.

Bill Haskell: Same thing is true even for the controller boards, where we can map the information from one controller board over to another. You can pull out a controller board and, again, hot-swappable. Virtually every component allows for that. That is something that even low-level technicians can be able to service. Those things are quite, I would say, our customers are quite impressed with that, and we've got a lot of guidance from our customers along the way, helping us design systems that have that reliability component.

Speaker Change: Information from one controller board over to another you can pull out of controller Board and again Hot Swappable. So virtually every component allows for that that is.

Speaker Change: Something that even low level technicians can can be able to to service.

Speaker Change: So those things are quite I would say.

Our customers are quite impressed with that and we got a lot of guidance for our customers along the way, helping us design systems that have that that reliability component.

Nehal Chokshi: That's very good, smart. Now, these evaluation customers, are they comparing the Accelsius solution to the whole gamut of potential cooling solutions of air-cooled one-phase DLC as well as other two-phase DLC?

Speaker Change: That's great that's smart.

Speaker Change: These evaluations with customers are they comparing the Excelsior solution too.

Speaker Change: The whole gamut of potential cooling solutions, Eric called one face DLC as well as other toothpaste DLC.

Bill Haskell: Yeah. We're seeing an evolution. As you can appreciate, almost all data centers today are air-cooled. I would say that virtually all of the lead players now have realized that the only path forward is liquid cooling. Air conditioning is at its physical limit to be able to cool these hot processors. Just impractical to provide enough cold airflow to cool these latest and greatest chipsets. About 18 months ago, I'd say immersion cooling was a favorite child. I think while there are still some perhaps unique applications for immersion, I think that's likely to go by the wayside and will be replaced by other liquid cooling solutions. The predominant competitor really is, I'll call it, a generation behind what we have, which is single-phase cooling, where ultimately, rather than using a dielectric fluid like we use, they use water to flow over the chips to cool.

Speaker Change: Yes. So we are seeing an evolution as you can appreciate it almost all data centers today are air cooled.

Speaker Change: I would say that virtually all of the lead players now have realized that the only path forward just liquid cooling air.

Speaker Change: Air conditioning.

Speaker Change: Physical limit to be able to call. These hot processors, just impractical to provide enough cold air flow to cool the latest and greatest touch chip.

So about 18 months ago.

Speaker Change: I would say immersing cooling was a favor.

Child, I think while there are still some.

Perhaps.

Speaker Change: Unique applications for immersion.

That's likely to go by the wayside and will be replaced by by other liquid cooling solutions. So the predominant competitor really is I'll call. It a generation behind what we have which is.

Speaker Change: The single phase of water.

Speaker Change: Ultimately.

Speaker Change: Rather than using a dielectric fluid like we use they use water to flow over the chips to cool the challenged areas that requires sort of linear.

Bill Haskell: The challenge there is that it requires sort of linear flow of water increase as the chips get hotter and hotter. Right? If you look at the surface area of a chip and how much heat is being dissipated, if you need twice as much heat removal, you have to pump twice as much water, or think about it as pumping water faster and at higher pressure over these chipsets. The failure rate for water is high. Virtually all of these data centers that are using single-phase cooling are experiencing leaks from time to time, and it, of course, ruins servers when you get water in contact with electronics. Whereas a dielectric fluid like we use is actually vapor at room temperature, and so it doesn't damage the chips, and it also doesn't damage humans.

Speaker Change: Slow of water increase as the chips get hotter and hotter right. So if you look at the surface area of a chip and how much how much heat is being dissipated.

Speaker Change: If you need twice as much heat removal you have to pump twice as much water.

Speaker Change: About it as well.

Speaker Change: Trumping water faster and at higher pressure over these chipsets.

Speaker Change: The failure rate for water is high.

Speaker Change: Virtually all of these data centers that are using single threaded water are experiencing leaks from time to time and it's.

Speaker Change: Of course ruined servers, when you get water in contact with electronics.

Speaker Change: Whereas the dielectric fluid like we use is actually vapor at room temperature and so it doesn't damage the chips and it also it doesn't damage humans and the particular flu.

Bill Haskell: The particular fluid that we use predominantly has a global warming potential of 1, so it's a very eco-friendly liquid, and we can operate it at very low pressure and actually quite high temperature removal using this dielectric. Back to competition, there really are only a couple of players that offer two-phase solutions in the marketplace, two-phase direct-to-chip solutions. It's us and really just 1 other player in the marketplace. The demand far outstrips the available supply. I'll just say that much in terms of the ability to service the market or the projected market going forward.

Fluid that we're using predominantly as a global warming potential of one so it is a very eco friendly.

Speaker Change: And we can operate at very low temperatures very low pressure and actually quite high temperature removal.

Speaker Change: Using this dielectric.

Speaker Change: Back to competition, there really are only a couple of players that offer.

Speaker Change: Two phase solutions in the marketplace to face director Chip solutions.

Speaker Change: And.

Speaker Change: It's us and really just just one other player in the marketplace the demand far outstrips the available supply.

Speaker Change: Play that much in terms of the ability to service the market or the projected market going forward.

Nehal Chokshi: Okay, great. Is the evaluation that was shipped during Q3 on Blackwell samples, or is it on Hopper?

Okay great.

Speaker Change: The evaluation that was shipped during Q on black oil samples or is it on hopper.

Bill Haskell: Say it again.

Speaker Change: Say it again.

Nehal Chokshi: The evaluation delivery that was made in Q3 2024, was that on Blackwell samples or Hopper chipsets?

Speaker Change: You talked about the valuation.

Speaker Change: The valuation delivery that was made in <unk> 24 was that black well set pulse or hopper chipsets.

Bill Haskell: I'm not 100% certain, to be honest, but I will tell you that we have characterized most of the chipsets out there from the various chip manufacturers. We have characterized, I think, virtually all of the leading chipsets that are in the marketplace today. Again, I'm not certain about which particular chipset the systems in Q3 serviced, but we've delivered additional systems, of course, since then.

Speaker Change: 100% certain to be honest, but I will tell you that we have characterized most of the chipsets out there.

Speaker Change: The various.

Speaker Change: Chip manufacturers. So we have we have characterized I think virtually all of the leading chipsets that are in the marketplace today.

Speaker Change: Again, I'm not certain about which particular chipset systems in Q3.

Speaker Change: Serviced, but we have delivered additional systems of course since then.

Nehal Chokshi: Okay. Additional systems to the same evaluation customer or to different evaluation customers?

Speaker Change: Okay additional systems, they may evaluation customer or two different evaluation customers different customers.

Bill Haskell: Different customers. A range of different customers.

Nehal Chokshi: Okay. In the 45 days since Q3 2024 ended, how many additional evaluation customers has Accelsius gained? Has actually made deliveries to, rather.

Speaker Change: A range of it okay.

Speaker Change: Okay. So in the 45 days than Q4 ended may additional evaluation customers has <unk> gain.

Speaker Change: Actually may deliveries to rather.

Bill Haskell: Yeah. We're not giving any kind of forward-looking information with respect to either revenue or number of systems. Part of that's just competitive protection, I'll call it. Again, we're not really offering any kind of forward-looking things. I will say that we are dealing with virtually all of the key players in the ecosystem as it pertains to direct-to-chip liquid cooling.

Speaker Change: Yes, we're not giving any kind of.

Speaker Change: Kind of forward looking information with respect to either revenue or number of systems part of that is just competitive.

Speaker Change: Protection I'll call it but.

Speaker Change: But again, we're not really offering any kind of forward looking things, but I will say that we are dealing with virtually all of the key players in the ecosystem.

Speaker Change: It pertains to.

Speaker Change: Direct to chip liquid cooling.

Nehal Chokshi: Understood. Okay. It looks like investors' ownership of Accelsius went from 66% at the time of the investor day to 55% after the Series A investment. Is that correct?

Speaker Change: Understood Okay.

Speaker Change: And then it looks like inventors ownership with Celsius, one from 66% at the time at the Investor day to 55%. After a series of investment is that correct.

Bill Haskell: I think it might have been up to 58 or something back in that day. I don't remember exactly the numbers off the top of my head, but yeah, we've taken just a modest amount of dilution to fill out our Series A, and again, it was a bit oversubscribed. I can't remember back to Analyst Day whether, because a lot of the money had been, I think, collected up to that point. I don't know what the differential is between then and now, but yeah, it's only a few percent at most.

Speaker Change: Yes, I think when I think we've met or been in up to 58 or something back in that day I don't remember exactly the numbers off the top of my head but.

Speaker Change: Yeah, we've taken just a modest amount of dilution.

Speaker Change: To fill out our series a and again it was it was a bit oversubscribed I can't remember back to analyst day weather.

Speaker Change: A lot of the money had been I think collected up to that point. So I don't know what the differential is between then and now but it's yes, it's only a few percent at most.

Nehal Chokshi: Okay. Essentially what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to back out what the Series A funding values Accelsius at. Are you willing to just disclose what the other investors did actually value it at?

Speaker Change: Okay.

Speaker Change: Essentially what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to back out what the series a funding.

Speaker Change: Funding values at Celsius apps.

Speaker Change: Are you willing to just disclose what the.

Other investors did actually valued at.

Bill Haskell: We're not, and a bunch of reasons for it, which I can't get into on the call, but we're not planning to disclose the valuation for the Series A round.

Speaker Change: We're not in a bunch of reasons for it which I can't get into on the call, but we're not we're not planning to disclose the valuation for the series a round.

Nehal Chokshi: Okay. All right. That's it for me right now. Thank you.

Speaker Change: Okay.

Speaker Change: Right.

Speaker Change: Alright, that's it for me right now thank you.

Bill Haskell: Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Speaker Change: Thank you very much I appreciate it.

Operator: Thank you. This does conclude the question and answer session of today's program. I'd like to hand the program back to Bill Haskell, Chief Executive Officer, for any further remarks.

Speaker Change: Thank you. This does conclude the question and answer session of today's program I'd like to hand, the program back to Bill <unk>, Chief Executive Officer for any further remarks.

Bill Haskell: Thank you. I just want to thank everyone for listening in. I know this is our first go-round for the quarterly earnings call. As quarters unfold, you'll be getting, I think, more and more granularity in terms of how our current operating companies are performing. We wanted to give you an idea of the kind of direction we're taking and what kinds of things that we're planning to announce in the market. We're a bit non-traditional in, I guess, a classic company, but we do plan to report on those companies that we consolidate in terms of economic metrics. For the companies that we don't, like AeroFlexx, then again, it's an equity method accounting, so that we'll be reporting less granular information on that. We will give operational highlights and show you the trajectories of those companies.

Bill <unk>: Thank you I just want to thank everyone for listening in I know this is our first go round for the quarterly earnings call.

Bill <unk>: As quarters unfold, you'll be getting I think more and more granularity in terms of how our current system. Our current operating companies are performing.

Bill <unk>: But we wanted to kind of give you an idea of the kind of direction, we're taking and what kinds of things that we're planning to announce in the market were a bit non traditional.

Bill <unk>: Classic company.

But we do plan to report on those companies that we consolidated in terms of kind of economic metrics, but for the companies that we don't like Arrow flex.

Bill <unk>: And again, it's an equity method accounting, so we'll be reporting less granular information on that but we will give operational highlights and kind of show you. The trajectories of those companies, but we're quite enthused with not only the companies that we have but in our pipeline.

Bill Haskell: We're quite enthused with not only the companies that we have, but in our pipeline of prospective new companies going forward. We're happy to have come through this process relatively unscathed. It was a lot of work to get to this point. Thank you again for listening and for all the Q&A.

Bill <unk>: Prospective new new companies going forward.

Bill <unk>: Where we are.

Bill <unk>: Happy to have come through this process relatively unscathed.

Bill <unk>: A lot of work to get.

Bill <unk>: To get to this point.

Bill <unk>: So thank you again for listening and for the.

Bill <unk>: The Q&A.

Operator: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.

Speaker Change: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program you may now disconnect good day.

Speaker Change: Okay.

Speaker Change: Okay.

Speaker Change: [music].

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