Q4 2024 Baker Hughes Co Earnings Call
James West, Nancy Buese, Scott Gruber, Stephen Gengaro
Speaker Change: Good day ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Baker Hughes Company fourth quarter 2024 earnings conference call.
Speaker Change: At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session, and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference, Mr. Chase Mulvehill, Vice President, Investor Relations. You may begin.
Chase Mulvehill: Thank you. Good morning everyone and welcome to Baker Hughes fourth quarter and four-year earnings conference call. Here with me are Chairman and CEO Lorenzo Simonelli and our CFO Nancy Buese. The earnings release we issued yesterday evening can be found on our website at BakerHughes.com. We will also be using a presentation with our prepared remarks during this webcast which can be found on our investor website.
Chase Mulvehill: As a reminder, during this conference call, we will provide four in-look-ee statements. These statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve a number of risks and assumptions.
Chase Mulvehill: Please review our SEC filings and website for the factors that could cause actual results to differ materially. Reconciliations of operating income and other GAAP to non-GAAP measures can be found in our earnings release. With that, I will turn the call over to Lorenzo.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Thank you, Chase. Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us.
Starting on slide 4.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We're very pleased with our strong fourth quarter results, exceeding the midpoint of our EBITDA guidance for the eighth consecutive quarter, and setting new quarterly and annual records for revenue, free cash flow, and our adjusted measures of EPS, EBITDA, and EBITDA margin.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Our adjusted earnings per share remains on an impressive growth trajectory, increasing 37% from the fourth quarter of 2023 and up 47% for the full year.
Lorenzo Simonelli: For the fourth quarter, company-adjusted EBITDA margins increased by 1.8 percentage points year-on-year to a record of 17.8 percent.
Significant margin expansion across both segments drove this exceptional performance.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Industrial and energy technology orders remained at strong levels during 2024, including $3.8 billion in the fourth quarter that drove the annual total above the midpoint of our guidance range.
Lorenzo Simonelli: This order performance highlights the end market diversity and versatility of our technologies, led by strength in gas infrastructure and FPSOs.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Accordingly, gas tech equipment's non-LNG orders more than doubled, totaling $3.6 billion.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We achieved another important milestone in booking new energy orders of $1.3 billion. This represents approximately 70% year-over-year growth for the new energy awards.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In the third consecutive year, we have exceeded the high end of our original guidance range.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We generated strong free cash flow of $894 million during the quarter, resulting in record annual free cash flow of $2.3 billion.
Lorenzo Simonelli: This represents a free cash flow conversion rate of 49% near the high end of our 45 to 50% target range.
Lorenzo Simonelli: These record results clearly demonstrate that we are the leading energy and industrial technology company.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Turning to slide 5, we want to highlight recent awards and technology developments.
Lorenzo Simonelli: As I mentioned, 2024 was another strong year for IET orders, booking several large-scale GTE awards that span across gas infrastructure, FPSOs, and LNG.
Lorenzo Simonelli: This is the third consecutive year that GTE has booked more than $5 billion of orders.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In the fourth quarter, we secured orders for multiple LNG projects, bringing total LNG equipment bookings to almost 2.1 billion dollars for 2024.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We received an order from Venture Global to provide modularized LNG systems and a power island.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Additionally, we received an award from Bechtel for the first phase of Woodside Energy's Louisiana LNG project.
Lorenzo Simonelli: This phase will include two Baker Hughes liquefaction compression trains with a capacity of 11 MTPA.
Lorenzo Simonelli: The gas infrastructure build-out in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia continues to gather pace, following our Master Gas System Free Award in early 2024.
Lorenzo Simonelli: During the fourth quarter, we booked an award for gas compression equipment for the third expansion phase of the Jafura gas field.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We will supply a total of 12 electric motor-driven compression trains and auxiliary treatment equipment in this unconventional gas field.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In total, we have now been awarded 24 electric motor-driven compressors and an additional 14 compressors for this strategically important gas field.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In gas technology services, we secured over a billion dollars of long-term service agreements for the second consecutive year.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In the fourth quarter, we signed a long-term service frame agreement with Venture Global to support Phase I and II of their Plaquemines LNG facility in Louisiana.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Additionally, GTS was awarded a 25-year services agreement to support next decade's Rio Grande LNG facility in Texas.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We were also awarded a contract to provide planned maintenance at a major LNG facility in Asia-Pacific, which will leverage IET's eye center.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In addition to booking several meaningful long-term service awards, GTS recorded the strongest quarter of equipment upgrades since 2020. This included a key project to upgrade the Monsanto compression station for SNAM, one of Europe's leading midstream companies.
Lorenzo Simonelli: During the quarter, IET's climate technology solutions secured multiple awards targeting flare reduction.
Lorenzo Simonelli: As announced at COP 29, CTS will provide SOCAR with an integrated gas recovery and hydrogen sulfide removal system to significantly reduce downstream flaring at the Hydra-Alvi oil refinery.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Separately, in the Middle East, DTS will supply electric-driven centrifugal compressors for one of the largest gas processing and flare gas recovery projects globally.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In all field services and equipment, we continue to experience strong auto momentum in Brazil, particularly for our differentiated flexible pipe technology.
Lorenzo Simonelli: During the quarter, we received a significant award from Petrobras for 48 miles of flexibles to be delivered across four fields.
Lorenzo Simonelli: This follows the third quarter award for 43 miles of flexible for the Santos Basin and takes our total year orders for flexible pipe to $1.4 billion, a record year for this business.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In Mature Asset Solutions, we received a multi-year contract from E&I to unlock bypass reserves in one of Europe's largest developments.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Baker Hughes will provide its auto track exact rotary stirruble drilling system which will be deployed to help E&I lower risk and execution costs.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We continue to see solid auto momentum in the Middle East, receiving multiple awards across the region for coil tubing services, as well as drilling and completion fluids.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We also booked an award from a major operator to provide artificial lift services in Iraq, which includes advanced permanent magnet motors for improved electric submersible pump efficiency.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In Abu Dhabi, we signed an agreement with AIQ, ADNOC, and Corva to launch the AI Rate of Penetration Optimization project.
Lorenzo Simonelli: This innovation, which utilizes the latest AI digital technology, enhances drilling efficiency in real-time by providing insights and recommendations for optimizing weight-on-bit, rotations-per-minute, and other critical parameters.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Driving innovation and expanding our manufacturing footprint in key growth markets are critical to the long-term success of our company. During the quarter we expanded our footprint in Namibia and Oman.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We also had the grand opening of our recently relocated Surface Pressure Control Headquarters in Abu Dhabi, ensuring that we are close to key customers in a major demand region.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Turning to the next slide, as we enter 2025, we believe Baker Hughes is very well positioned to thrive in the back half of the decade. We have a number of positive tailwinds that will continue to drive demand for our technology and solutions.
Lorenzo Simonelli: On the macro front, the US economy has remained resilient in the face of higher interest rate environment, while the European and Chinese economies have struggled to stimulate growth.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Looking at 2025, the global economy will be navigating a number of economic and geopolitical uncertainties, which could result in another year of uneven global economic growth.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Against this economic backdrop, we have seen increasingly positive trends for power consumption.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Boosted by this encouraging development, we believe that natural gas and LNG demand will demonstrate accelerated growth, which will drive increasing demand for our gas-levered products and solutions in both OFSE and IET.
Lorenzo Simonelli: According to Wood Mackenzie, demand for U.S. natural gas is set to increase by approximately 20 BCF per day or 18% by 2030, led by a continued increase in gas requirements for new LNG facilities and data centers.
Lorenzo Simonelli: For LNG, we still expect 100 MTPA of FIDs between 2024 and 2026, a level that would increase global capacity to our long-standing forecast of 800 MTPA by 2030.
Last year there were 17 MTPA of project FIDs.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Accordingly, we anticipate more than 80 MTPA of FIDs in 2025 and 2026.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Our strong FID outlook is supported by a record year of off-take contracting last year, which totaled 92 MTPA and exceeded the prior record of 84 MTPA set in 2022.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We also expect demand to remain robust for gas infrastructure projects.
Lorenzo Simonelli: This follows a very strong 2024 when we booked MGS-3 and Jafura in Saudi Arabia, Hazar-e-Ramal in Algeria, and the Magham Gas Storage Facility in Dubai.
Lorenzo Simonelli: While we may not see the same level of large-scale projects in 2025, we are in active conversations on several pipeline expansion projects across the Middle East, Africa, North America, and Latin America.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Turning to our new energy outlook, we see energy efficiency and decarbonization technologies playing an increasing role in achieving net zero goals.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Looking forward, we are targeting $1.4 to $1.6 billion of new energy orders in 2025.
Lorenzo Simonelli: While some near-term policy uncertainty across several clean technology areas exist in the United States, we remain confident in achieving our 2030 orders target of $6-7 billion.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Our pipeline of project opportunities, both domestically and internationally, continues to grow.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Further, we are very excited about the potential of new technologies under development, like NetPower and our Direct Air Capture Solution Mosaic.
Lorenzo Simonelli: These technologies will help and enable a sustainable energy development plan that provides affordable, more secure, low-emissive energy in the future.
Turning to oil markets.
Lorenzo Simonelli: There are several factors that could drive further volatility in oil prices. On the supply side, we see production slightly increasing in North America, adding to significant growth in offshore volumes.
Lorenzo Simonelli: The demand outlook has an element of uncertainty given the potential for U.S. tariffs, which would likely dampen growth in key oil-consuming countries like China, where persistent structural imbalances still weigh on the economy.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Ultimately, the oil price path will be highly dependent on the pace and magnitude at which OPEC plus production cuts are reversed in 2025.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In line with this backdrop and changing activity trends by major EMP operators, we expect global upstream spending to be down slightly in 2025.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In North America, we anticipate spending to decrease year-on-year in the mid-single-digit range as many operators remain focused on capital discipline and look to optimize their newly consolidated acreage.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Given our production weighted portfolio mix in North America, we expect to outperform the market.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In international markets, we expect spending to be flat to down year-on-year.
Lorenzo Simonelli: The prospect of an oversupplied oil market, uncertainty in Mexico and Saudi Arabia, and shifting focus to gas are all leading to reduced activity levels in some of the key international markets.
Lorenzo Simonelli: This will be somewhat offset by bright spots of activity in Brazil, the Middle East outside of Saudi Arabia, and Sub-Saharan Africa.
but ultimately not enough to drive growth from 2024 levels.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In offshore, we continue to see a consistent stream of development projects for the next several years, translating in a steady outlook for subsea trees and FPSOs.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In 2025, we expect SSPS orders to be up materially, led by strong subsidy tree order flow, as several projects for key customers are anticipated to reach FID.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Turning to slide 7, we want to continue the discussion around our life cycle business in gas technology.
Lorenzo Simonelli: A key value-creating attribute of our IET segment that is consistent with high-quality industrial businesses.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Over the past three years, we have booked more than $19 billion of equipment orders that will drive a 20% increase in our serviceable installed base by 2030.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We expect GasTech Services revenue to outpace this installed base growth due to pricing, mix, upgrades, and digital enhancements.
We see strong demand across the gas turbine market.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Market forecasts suggest the pace of gas turbine installations could double to around a hundred gigawatt per year out beyond the end of the decade.
Lorenzo Simonelli: The major driver of this growth will be the rapid expansion of data center capacity required to meet increasing generative AI workloads.
Lorenzo Simonelli: When combined with an already tight supply chain and material cost inflation, this environment provides a tailwind for pricing.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We also expect our serviceable LNG installed base to increase by over 50% through 2030, outpacing the overall 20% growth rate.
Lorenzo Simonelli: This mixed shift towards LNG-installed units is important as these projects have the highest attachment rates across all of our aftermarket services.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Another benefit of our large and growing installed base is the opportunity to provide performance enhancement through upgrades as equipment ages. In recent years, customers focused on maximizing equipment uptime as markets manage through the energy crisis.
Lorenzo Simonelli: However, as we move into a more stable energy environment and gas gains fervor acceptance as a destination fuel, we expect upgrades to demonstrate strong growth over the coming years.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We have a range of upgrade technology solutions that can drive lower emissions, lower energy consumption, increase power output, and produce higher throughput yield.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In addition, we are excited about new upgrade technologies that we are introducing into the market, a direct result of our R&D investment and innovation pipeline.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We believe new upgrade technologies that enhance aging equipment has the potential to generate hundreds of millions of dollars of orders at accretive margins by 2030.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In addition to equipment upgrades, we are enhancing our customers' plant performance and emissions abatement through the development of advanced service solutions.
We are leveraging our 24-7 eye center monitoring capabilities.
Lorenzo Simonelli: More than 20 years of monitoring and diagnostic data, the latest in generative AI capabilities, and our cordant platform to create digital solutions that help our customers optimize their total cost of equipment ownership.
Lorenzo Simonelli: On the back of increasing customer acceptance and enhanced digital product offerings, GTS digital orders increased by approximately 60% this year with over 1,800 units connected at the end of 2024.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Looking forward, we expect GTS digital orders to double by 2026 and continue this strong growth trajectory thereafter.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In summary, we have four discrete and tangible revenue growth accelerators that will benefit gas tech services.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Alongside an increasing installed base, this gives us confidence that we can structurally grow our high margin GTS business for the next decade and beyond.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Before turning the call over to Nancy, I would like to again emphasize the strength of our 2024 results.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We face some near-term market headwinds with the maximum sustainable capacity MSC reduction in Saudi Arabia and the LNG moratorium in the United States.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Yet we still exceeded the midpoint for orders and the high end of our EBITDA compared to our original guidance ranges.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Our company is clearly delivering results, evidenced by another record year.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We expect this momentum to continue with EBITDA to demonstrate another year of strong growth in 2025.
Lorenzo Simonelli: And as we embark on our continued journey, we are excited about the opportunities to further expand the versatility and breadth of our technology portfolio, as well as drive segment margins beyond our 20% target. With that, I will turn the call over to Nancy.
Nancy Buese: Thanks, Lorenzo. I will begin on slide nine with an overview of our consolidated results and then speak to segment details before summarizing our first quarter and full year outlook.
Nancy Buese: We demonstrated another year of strong progress during 2024. For the full year, orders totaled $28.2 billion, including $13 billion of IET orders, that marks the second-highest order total for the segment.
Nancy Buese: Technology versatility and differentiation of IET's portfolio continued to support a strong order book and near record levels of RPO.
Nancy Buese: We generated total adjusted EBITDA of $4.6 billion, increasing over 20% and setting a record for the second consecutive year.
Nancy Buese: Adjusted EBITDA margins increased 1.7 percentage points to 16.5 percent, marking the fourth consecutive year of margin expansion for the company.
Nancy Buese: Adjusted diluted EPS for the year increased by 47 percent to two dollars and thirty-five cents. In addition to our strong operating results, EPS benefited from our effective tax rate declining by approximately five percentage points
to 28%, adding 17 cents to EPS for the year.
Nancy Buese: Free cash flow totaled 2.3 billion dollars which represented a free cash flow conversion of a 49% near the high end of our targeted range.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Turning to our fourth quarter results. As Lorenzo mentioned, we delivered a very strong quarter for orders with total company orders of 7.5 billion dollars including 3.8 billion dollars from IET.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Adjusted EBITDA increased by 20% year-on-year to 1.31 billion dollars driven by continued strong IET revenue growth and exceptional margin performance across both segments. We are delivering on our commitments and we remain focused on meeting our margin targets.
Lorenzo Simonelli: GAAP operating income was $665 million. Adjusted operating income was $1.02 billion.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Excluded from adjusted diluted earnings per share was a net benefit of 48 cents related to unrealized gains on certain equity investments and the release evaluation allowances for certain deferred tax assets, partially offset by restructuring and other charges.
Lorenzo Simonelli: The valuation allowance release reflects our growing pattern of profitability over recent years alongside our confidence for continued profit growth into the future.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Restructuring charges primarily relate to streamlining of our OFSC operating model and right-sizing our workforce to match forecasted activity levels.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We generated free cash flow of $894 million for the quarter, supported by a strong quarter of collections.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Turning to capital allocation on slide 10. Our balance sheet remains strong ending the fourth quarter with cash of 3.4 billion dollars, net debt to EBITDA ratio of 0.6 times, and liquidity of 6.4 billion dollars.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In 2024, we have returned $1.3 billion in dividends and share repurchases, amounting to approximately 60% of free cash flow. We remain committed to returning 60% to 80% of free cash flow to shareholders.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Turning to the next slide, I want to highlight our steadily growing dividend, strong earnings growth, and improving return on invested capital.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We have demonstrated robust growth in earnings per share over the past three years, increasing by a 37% compound annual growth rate over this period.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Moving to our dividend, we announced a 10% increase yesterday. This marks the fourth consecutive year that we've raised our dividend, increasing by 28% since the third quarter of 2022.
Lorenzo Simonelli: This consistent dividend growth demonstrates our confidence in the durability and momentum of the company's earnings and pre-cash flow, a quality we share with our industrial peers.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Looking forward, I believe we're uniquely positioned to continue increasing the dividend, consistently buy back shares, and retain the financial flexibility to pursue opportunities that will enhance our growth capabilities.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We are demonstrating solid progress in enhancing the company's returns profile, driven by our capital-efficient growth and significant margin expansion achieved over the last two years.
Lorenzo Simonelli: For 2024, IET ROIC of 25% exceeded our 20% target one year early. In OFSE, ROIC continues to make steady progress towards our 15% target, increasing to 13% for 2024.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We expect both segment returns to further increase in 2025 and beyond as our focus remains on capital-efficient, profitable growth.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Now I will highlight the results for both segments, starting with industrial and energy technology on slide 12.
Lorenzo Simonelli: During the quarter, we booked strong IET orders of $3.8 billion, primarily driven by LNG awards and further gas infrastructure order momentum.
Lorenzo Simonelli: For the full year, IET secured $13 billion of orders with a book-to-bill of 1.1 times, resulting in near-record RPO levels of $30.1 billion at year-end.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Our fourth quarter results reflect a strong increase in IET EBITDA, up 38% year-over-year due to another strong quarter of revenue growth in gas technology for both equipment and services and significant margin expansion.
Lorenzo Simonelli: For the full year, IET EBITDA approached $2.1 billion, setting a record for the second consecutive year as revenue reached a new high and margin reclaimed prior peak levels. This was mostly driven by significant margin improvements in both industrial solutions and gas tech equipment.
Lorenzo Simonelli: with the latter benefiting from operational enhancements and conversion of higher price backlog.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Turning to oilfield services and equipment on slide 13. We booked strong orders and flexibles during the quarter which drove SSPS orders of 802 million dollars and resulted in full year orders of 3.1 billion dollars.
Lorenzo Simonelli: OFSC EBITDA margin continues to outperform the segment's revenue performance, supporting solid fourth quarter EBITDA of $755 million.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Full-year EBITDA increased by 11% to approximately $2.9 billion, driven by margin that expanded 1.5 percentage points to 18.4%.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Turning to slide 14, I want to provide additional highlights on the significant progress we are making in driving structural margin improvement.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We are executing several projects to streamline activities, remove duplication, and modernize management systems. This is improving clarity, transparency, and the pace of decision-making, enabling our teams to work smarter and drive costs structurally lower.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Going forward, we're focused on sourcing a larger volume of materials from these countries.
Lorenzo Simonelli: At IET, we are seeing the benefits of lean strategies being adopted across our operations.
Lorenzo Simonelli: The team has initiated over 120 large problem-solving Kaizen projects this year alone, involving over 1,300 employees across all functions.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Our GTE team has been applying LEAN to its execution model, focusing on improving throughput efficiency. Through multiple Kaizans, the team has driven a 40% increase in GTE volumes within our existing manufacturing footprint to support growing demand.
Lorenzo Simonelli: This has enabled us to gain share in key markets due to our speed to deliver on customers' needs.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In industrial tech, we have levered Kaizans to improve lead times on Cordon's flagship product, Orbit 60.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In OFSE, a great example of the progress we have made is the improved performance of SSPS. EBITDA margins have increased significantly over the last two years, with SSPS margins more than doubling into the mid-teens last year.
Lorenzo Simonelli: This has been driven by refocusing our commercial model, right-sizing our capacity, and improving our execution.
Lorenzo Simonelli: For the overall OFSC segment, we continue to transform the business. In 2024, the focus was centralizing the business operations, leading to a significant reduction in duplication across our regions and product and service lines.
Lorenzo Simonelli: The focus now is to drive consistency and operational excellence across the new business structure.
Lorenzo Simonelli: These activities are centered on enhancing commercial intensity and optimizing operational efficiency.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In line with this, we are matching our structure to anticipated activity levels. These actions, along with the implementation of our streamlined operating model, will be key drivers to achieve our OFSC margin target.
We are making significant progress on our transformation journey.
Lorenzo Simonelli: yet have additional opportunities to enhance efficiency, productivity, and ultimately margins.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Our strategy is clear, and we are taking further action in 2025. We have cultivated an organizational culture focused on continued margin improvement, and we see 20% margin targets as milestones on our journey towards best-in-class margins.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Next, I would like to update you on our outlook. The details of our first quarter and full year 2025 guidance can be found on slide 15. The ranges for revenue, EBITDA, and DNA are shown on this slide, and I will focus on the midpoint of our guidance.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Starting with the full year, we expect total company revenue of approximately 27.75 billion dollars and EBITDA of 4.95 billion dollars.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We are also targeting free cash flow conversion as 45 to 50 percent relative to our annual EBITDA. We expect an effective tax rate in the range of 25 to 30 percent with a strategic plan in place to further optimize our tax rate beyond 2025.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We expect IET orders to remain at robust levels this year, with LNG momentum returning to the market while gas infrastructure and energy production order strength continues. Given this strong environment, we expect IET orders of $12.5 to $14.5 billion.
Lorenzo Simonelli: At the midpoint, this would mark the third consecutive year of at least $13 billion of IET orders. This not only provides strong backlog support for our equipment business into 2027, but will provide years, if not decades, of growth for our high-margin aftermarket service businesses.
Lorenzo Simonelli: As a result of this continued momentum and strong orders performance over the last two years, we expect full-year IET revenue of $12.75 billion and EBITDA of $2.3 billion.
Lorenzo Simonelli: For OFSE, we forecast full-year revenue of $15 billion, down slightly year-on-year as a result of softening oilfield service market in North America and lower SSPS revenues.
Importantly, we still expect EBITDA to increase to $3 billion.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We have been proactively positioning our OFSC portfolio to remain resilient in a maturing upstream spending cycle.
Now turning to first quarter guidance.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We expect revenues of $6.5 billion and total EBITDA of approximately $1.02 billion.
Lorenzo Simonelli: For IET, we expect first quarter results to demonstrate strong year-over-year EBITDA growth led by GTE. Overall, we expect IET EBITDA of $460 million.
Lorenzo Simonelli: The major factors driving this range will be the pace of backlog conversion in GTE, the impact of any aeroderivative supply chain tightness in gas technology,
Lorenzo Simonelli: Operational Execution in Industrial Technology and CTS and Material Changes in Foreign Exchange. For OFSC, we expect first quarter results to reflect a more pronounced seasonal decline for International OFS and SSPS.
Accordingly, we expect EBITDA of $645 million.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Factors driving the range include the SSPS backlog conversion, activity levels in Saudi Arabia and Mexico, and winter weather in the Northern Hemisphere.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In summary, we are extremely pleased with the operational performance of the company during 2024. The fourth quarter marks the third consecutive quarter of record EBITDA and the second consecutive quarter of record EBITDA margin. These are clear indicators that our transformation is working.
Lorenzo Simonelli: The entire organization is committed to structurally improving margins and capitalizing on market opportunities with our differentiated portfolio of solutions.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Both are key drivers in our journey to further increase shareholder value. We are proud of the progress the company is making and we are excited about the future of Baker Hughes.
I'll turn the call back to Lorenzo.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Thank you, Nancy. As you can see from our strong 2024 results and the exceptional margin improvement illustrated on slide 17, we have evolved into a much more profitable energy and industrial technology company.
Speaker Change: At the midpoint of our 2025 guidance, Baker Hughes' EBITDA margin will have increased by more than six percentage points over the past five years.
Additionally, EBITDA has more than doubled over this same period.
Speaker Change: Looking at 2025 and beyond, our balance sheet remains strong, our strategy is clear, and we see a differentiated growth opportunity for Baker Hughes.
Speaker Change: Markets are evolving and this aligns with our vision of the energy technology ecosystem.
Speaker Change: The need for more energy with fewer emissions is critical, and the increased use of natural gas will be fundamental to achieving this objective.
Speaker Change: Our strong market positioning across natural gas, LNG, gas infrastructure, new energy and mature fields provides multiple growth factors across our portfolio.
Speaker Change: This will be accompanied by emerging opportunities for distributed power solutions and new industrial markets.
Speaker Change: We have a unique, broad technology portfolio that will drive growth through the remainder of the decade, irrespective of the pace of the energy transition.
Speaker Change: Given this balanced portfolio, untapped market opportunities, significant recurring IET service revenue, and our more efficient cost structure,
Speaker Change: Baker Hughes is becoming less cyclical in nature and will generate more durable earnings and free cash flow across cycles.
Speaker Change: To conclude, I'd like to thank the Baker Hughes team for yet again delivering outstanding results. As we continue our journey to propel Baker Hughes forward, we remain committed to our customers, shareholders, and employees.
With that, I'll turn the call back over to Chase.
Operator, we can open up for questions.
Speaker Change: Thank you. To ask a question please press star 1 1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question please press star 1 1 again. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question. One moment while we compile our Q&A roster.
Speaker Change: Our first question comes from the line of Arun Jayaram with JP Morgan Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Can you discuss some of the puts and takes?
Speaker Change: As well as the overall macro picture for orders between some of the sub-segments, LNG, OOP, gas infrastructure. And do you think you can reach that $5 billion threshold for gas tech orders that you've been running at for several years now?
Speaker Change: Hi Arun, thanks and yes clearly we've had a beneficial past few years and when you look at the amount of bookings we've actually booked 40 billion of IAT orders over the past three years which obviously is a history
Speaker Change: exceeding the past and in 2024 you know we booked 13 billion the second highest order year in the company's history and I think it's
Speaker Change: important to recognize that that was even with the US LNG permitting moratorium and in 2024 we had a 65% decline in our LNG orders.
Bus is 2020 free.
and we do see this continued strength continuing in 2025.
Speaker Change: And I think as we look at gas infrastructure, you know, we're going to have continued strong demand in gas pipelines, gas processing.
Speaker Change: 2025 we're going to see LNG come back and obviously LNG orders increasing over 2024 and when we book 2.1 we've got about 80 MTPA that's going to be FID'd over the next couple of years.
You look at FPSOs.
Speaker Change: continued demand strength and we see seven to nine FPSOs per year.
and also increasingly Nova LT.
Speaker Change: You know, we're seeing an increased interest in the Nova LT turbines.
Speaker Change: with orders possibly doubling versus last year in 2025 with behind-the-meter solutions for both data centers and oil and gas.
Speaker Change: And then on the CTS side, again, we continue to see strong order growth led by CCUS, Emissions Management.
and also the opportunity of clean power and...
Speaker Change: as we look at 2025 robust pipeline that supports 1.4 to 1.6 billion of new energy orders for this year.
Speaker Change: The strength in the market continues to recover and we see overall continued strength across the IAT market environment. So feel good about where the midpoint is of 13.5. It would mark the third consecutive year of being ahead of the 13 billion orders.
Speaker Change: Again, on the GTE side, the $5 billion, well in reach.
Speaker Change: with 70% of that being outside of LNG. So we feel good about the long-term trend within, again, the industrial energy technology order book in 2025, looking for another strong year.
Speaker Change: Great. Thanks, Lorenzo. A follow-up. You had an interesting commentary in your deck around the gas turbine market, anticipating the market to more than double by 2030.
Speaker Change: Lorenzo, your strength in gas turbines for LNG and oil and gas, you know, largely unmatched.
Speaker Change: But I was wondering if you could highlight what type of inroads are you making in the turbine market outside of oil and gas, you know, thinking about applications in industrial settings, as well as power, etc.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Yeah, Arun, again, we've got a full portfolio of gas turbine technology and multi-fuel drivers which can be used in multiple applications.
As you look at the aspect of our NOVA LTs,
and you look at below the 150 megawatt.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We've got the opportunity to continue going into the data center marketplace and providing distributed power solutions.
Lorenzo Simonelli: behind the meter and also off-grid solutions and this is an increasing space that we see as an opportunity and we're continuing to enhance our industrial gas turbine lineup and the portfolio that we have.
Lorenzo Simonelli: But also, as you look at the aspect of gas processing and pipelines, you continue to need compression as well as also the aspect of power to be able to propel the molecules. So, across the board, good opportunities.
All right, thanks a lot.
Speaker Change: Thank you, and one moment as we move on to our next question.
Speaker Change: Our next question is going to come from the line of David Anderson with Barclays. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Great, thank you. How are you doing today, Lorenzo?
Good day.
Speaker Change: So, a lot of the focus today is going to be on your IET business and the question of the IET business, rightfully so, but I just want to ask you a question about the OFSC side, specifically around how you see the various components playing out in 25.
Speaker Change: Overall, you seem to be spending down a bit this year, but I would expect the later cycle businesses including, you mentioned, Mature Asset Solutions, Production Chemicals to grow alongside with the flexibles.
Speaker Change: However, the midpoint of your guide this year is for OFS to be down on top line down by four percent. So question is really on the mix of the business in OFSC and kind of how it plays out during the year and maybe what some of the, you know, puts and takes could be around that guide for the year. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Yeah, sure, and OFSC is an important part of our business and we're very pleased with the way in which the margin has progressed and definitely don't want to take away from OFSC by talking about IET all the time. So
Speaker Change: I think as you look at our prepared remarks, definitely we do see
Speaker Change: 2025 slightly lower than when compared to 2024. I think you know historically we've taken a more conservative approach.
Speaker Change: which has proved us well last year. As you look at North America, we do anticipate spending this year to decrease year-on-year in the mid-single-digit range.
number of operators continue to be focused on
Speaker Change: and they're looking to optimize the newly consolidated acreage that they've got in place.
Speaker Change: We do expect to outperform the market in this area just because our portfolio is production-weighted. Greater than 50% of what we have is related to the production side. On the international markets...
Speaker Change: Again, we're seeing a flat to down year-on-year, you know, there's the potential overhang of the OPEC plus spec of oil capacity Some of the changing regimes and also the focus on gas leading to some reduced activity
looking at Mexico, Saudi, and North Sea.
expected to remain soft this year.
Speaker Change: partially offset by Brazil and the outside of Saudi Arabia in the Middle East and some sub-Saharan Africa.
Speaker Change: But, again, as we look at it, we do expect, you know, on the international side, flat to down year on year. And from an offshore perspective, as we mentioned, we do see that continuing to be positive. And as we go past...
Speaker Change: this 2025, we still feel good about the mature asset solutions in the latter part of the decade, and again, continuing to increase our focus on the brownfields and the opportunity to maximize production from existing assets.
Speaker Change: Thank you and one moment as we move on to our next question.
Speaker Change: Our next question is going to come from the line of Sara Pett with Bank of America. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Hi, thank you. Good morning Lorenzo and Nancy.
Morning.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Lorenzo, like you discussed, I want to touch on the on the life cycle aspect of the gas tech business.
Lorenzo Simonelli: And I know you discussed how Gaptic Services is outpacing installed capacity growth, which is...
Lorenzo Simonelli: obviously really impressive, right? And then if I go back to your slide, I think slide seven in your deck, Lorenzo.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We've talked about the four revenue growth accelerators, pricing, mix, upgrades, digital. If we just think about the next two to three years, Lorenzo, which one of these four should we think would be the most meaningful for gastric services growth?
Lorenzo Simonelli: Yeah, definitely. And again, as we've highlighted, our installed base is.
Lorenzo Simonelli: expected to grow by at least 20% between now and 2030. And from a revenue standpoint, again, we expect GTS revenue to outpace this growth rate. And it's really on the back of the drivers that you mentioned that we shared on the page. And mix is going to be the biggest driver.
Lorenzo Simonelli: improving mix as we continue to see an increase in the LNG aspect and as you look at our installed base for service for LNG it's going to increase by over 50% through 2030 which is outpacing the overall 20% growth rate so that mix
Lorenzo Simonelli: On the LNG side, as it has high attachment rates, it's definitely beneficial and it generates more service revenue over the life of the equipment.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Also, the other aspects, pricing, upgrades, and digital, we continue to see those having an important factor as well, but mix is the one that is going to be important.
Lorenzo Simonelli: As we go forward, also upgrades is something that we think is poised for increasing. As you saw in the second half of 2024, we had an uptick of 10% year over year and in the fourth quarter
Lorenzo Simonelli: We saw the highest order intake since 2020, so looking favorable there as well.
Speaker Change: Thank you. One moment as we move on to our next question.
Speaker Change: And our next question comes from the line of Stephen Gengaro with CFL. Your line is open. Please go ahead
Stephen Gengaro: Thanks and good afternoon I guess over there. So you guys have been obviously very successful on the margin front the last few years.
Stephen Gengaro: I was curious if you could walk us through the moving pieces to get to the 20% targets for OFS this year and on the IET side for 2026.
Speaker Change: Sure, good morning. I'll take that one. We are really pleased with the progress the teams have made in driving our business transformation, and I would say that self-help
Speaker Change: initiatives and broader transformation will absolutely continue to be a major driver of the margin improvement.
Speaker Change: as we think about 2025 and even beyond. And in OFSC in particular, as we demonstrated in 2024, we're driving really significant initiatives that are just not necessarily related to activity levels. So there's that piece as well, and that's all going to drive margin expansion into the coming years.
Speaker Change: And in 2024, the OFSC margins increased by 1.5 percentage points, and that was really outpacing the revenue growth.
Speaker Change: and that's what you saw, we generated incremental margins over 100%. So a lot of good work there. I think good evidence that we've been proactively positioning the OFSC portfolio to really remain resilient in what we see as a truly maturing upstream spending cycle.
Speaker Change: And we continue to be focused on driving consistency, operational excellence, and service delivery across that sort of streamlined operating structure that we worked on in 2024. We're also, in addition to that, now right-sizing our structure to match expected activity levels.
Speaker Change: So when you think about the portfolio plus this work, we really play at that high end of technology and we're not as much in the highly commoditized range.
Lorenzo Simonelli: And as Lorenzo mentioned, our production-weighted portfolio provides quite a bit of resiliency in a softer environment.
Lorenzo Simonelli: So when our customers think about their optimizing of production from their existing assets.
Lorenzo Simonelli: We see more OPEX revenue for ourselves at highly accretive margins. So all of that to say that we are very highly confident in achieving our 20% margin even in the softer upstream spending environment. And the teams inside OFSC have been doing fantastic work.
Lorenzo Simonelli: on right-sizing the business and focusing on all the operational excellence components. So all of these structural enhancements will fuel that margin expansion even beyond 2025 as we continue to focus on closing the gap with our peers in OFSC.
And so we'll continue to progress. We are on track.
Lorenzo Simonelli: and a couple drivers of that is just in GTE we expect to continue.
Lorenzo Simonelli: significant volume leverage coupled with further productivity gains and we've said previously that our backlog is higher price than previous so we will continue to focus in that way and that will help GTE margins as well.
Lorenzo Simonelli: In GTS, we've got new digital offerings and enhanced services solutions, and as Lorenzo mentioned, upgrades, and all of that will support margin expansion, and we'll also continue to see better normalization on the Arrow Derivative Supply Chain.
Lorenzo Simonelli: Another component, as we've talked about in the past, is R&D costs starting to decline and that's most evident in CTS, but that's going to help drive margin uplift.
Lorenzo Simonelli: And then finally, in industrial tech, we are really improving margins there, getting more volume through the factories, and better fixed cost absorption, so all of that's contributing to better margins, and we're excited. There's lots of opportunities for expansion, and we remain very confident in our ability to get to the 20% in 2026.
Lorenzo Simonelli: and continue to mention that 20% margins is not a final destination. We will continue in both segments to lift our eyes past 2025, past 2026, and improve margins even past the 20% goals.
Speaker Change: And Steve, I would just add, I think, as you look at 2024 and the progress that's been made on the self-help, and we've said a lot of this is down to the execution and also the simplification and the processes that we're working on internally.
Nancy Buese: On the IET side, you know, a considerable amount, about half of it is driven by self-help and on the OFSC side, two-thirds. So again, focused on the continued process enhancements and simplification within the company. And as Nancy mentioned, the 20% is not an end point, it's just a path on the journey.
Speaker Change: Thank you and one moment as we move on to our next question.
Speaker Change: And our next question is going to come from the line of Neil Mehta with Goldman Sachs and Co. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Neil Mehta: Good morning, Nancy, Lorenzo, team. A question around capital returns, great to see the dividend bump today, and just your perspective on the right way to return that 60% to 80% back to shareholders here as you think about the dividends versus the buybacks.
Neil Mehta: Lorenzo, Nancy, you've definitely talked about leaning into the dividend so just your latest thoughts there and then as it relates to capital allocation maybe you can also touch on M&A. It was a quieter year for M&A activity for Baker Hughes and what do you think the opportunity set looks like for I know no transformational.
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Neil Mehta: Yeah, great questions and we were really pleased with our free cash flow performance in 2024 and we remain committed to our stated goal of returning 60 to 80 percent of free cash flow to shareholders.
Neil Mehta: Since the company was formed in 2017, we've returned over $10 billion of dividends and buyback. So we will continue to maintain that. And we will also remain opportunistic in terms of share repurchases to fulfill that total commitment, which is exactly what we did in 2024.
Neil Mehta: And in 2025, we will do the same as with the increased dividend and continue to focus on share buyback.
Neil Mehta: will work towards our commitment of the 60 to 80 percent. And then we do want to retain some financial flexibility. We've got a very strong balance sheet and we want to have the ability to be be in that position, strong credit ratings and some flexibility as we need it for the business.
Neil Mehta: And then on the M&A question, our philosophy is to do what's always right for shareholders. So we continue to look at our portfolio, think about how we optimize and what the composition of that should be as the company continues to grow.
Neil Mehta: So we will always focus on Tuck In M&A and some small tech bets in the new energy space.
Neil Mehta: and anything that really will complement our existing technology leadership. So, as we think about Horizon 2 and 3 between now and 2020-30, we will always look at...
Neil Mehta: places where we need to fill a gap in the portfolio and opportunities for strategic fits with our existing asset base. So we're always on the lookout, but yes, it was a quiet year in 2024 and we will always have our eyes open for opportunities in 2025 and beyond.
Thank you. One moment for our next question.
Speaker Change: Our next question is going to come from the line of Scott Gruber with Citigroup. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Yes, good morning, good afternoon.
Speaker Change: Another one for Nancy, you maintain the 45 to 50% free cash conversion target for the year?
Speaker Change: Can you just update us on the puts and takes, you know, on the...
conversion rate
Speaker Change: Your margins are getting better. I know you've had initiatives to improve the cash tax rate and you've discussed R&D and new tech, you know, moderating over time. Are there offsets, you know, from a working capital perspective that kind of keeps a lid on the converging rate in 25s? Some more color there would be great.
Yeah, sure.
Speaker Change: We're really pleased with our free cash flow performance that's been a major target area for the entire company in 2024, and we're really pleased with that conversion rate of 49%. So that's right in the range of the 45 to 50%.
Speaker Change: A lot of that is just thinking about our free cash flow processes, our overall performance day-to-day. We're very confident in achieving that range again in 2025.
Speaker Change: And when I think about some of the big drivers for that, it's really around working capital efficiency. We see so much work we can still do to tighten up our collections process, our inventory turns, and this is a really high priority area for the people inside Baker Hughes. We've spent a lot of time thinking about how we can make every aspect
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Speaker Change: through our path to consistently achieve 50% of free cash flow conversion as we really think going forward about working capital efficiency and the tax side. So lots of efforts, made great progress in 2024 and there's more to come in 2025 for sure.
Speaker Change: Thank you, and one moment as we move on to our next question.
Speaker Change: Our next question comes from the line of Kurt Halid with Benchmark. Your line is open. Please go ahead.
Kurt Halid: Happy Friday, everybody, and appreciate you making some time for me here. Lorenzo, big picture.
Kurt Halid: kind of question for you, right? You've outlined a very compelling story for, obviously, the IET growth dynamics.
Kurt Halid: not only through 2030, but it looks like it extends out beyond that when you start to talk about your increased install base and aftermarket services.
Kurt Halid: Given the, again, moderating growth rates in oil field services, you know, without putting a hard number around it, how
Kurt Halid: Do you happen to have a feeling here of whether or not the IEP business could wind up being at least half, if not more, of your business mix as you get closer to 2030?
That
Lorenzo Simonelli: Good to hear from you, and look, as we stated, our strategy is to continue to grow Baker Hughes in totality.
Lorenzo Simonelli: From a percentage standpoint of the two segments, over time, IET will grow as the
Lorenzo Simonelli: market and the addressable market is considerable and we've got the opportunity to continue to move into new spaces.
Lorenzo Simonelli: and the mix will change. Again, we don't have any final destination in mind. Both of the business units are critically important and actually share.
Lorenzo Simonelli: a lot of the capabilities together and also customers together. And so that's why we think we're in a unique opportunity and like the way in which the portfolio is structured.
Lorenzo Simonelli: to the point of, you know, overall mix. Yes, you'll see the element of IET as we continue to grow from a percentage standpoint be a larger portion of Baker Hughes.
Thank you. Great. I think we're coming to time.
Speaker Change: Thank you, that was our last question and I would like to hand the conference back over to Lorenzo Simonelli, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer for his concluding remarks.
Speaker Change: Thank you very much and thanks to everybody for joining us and taking the time on today's earning call and I look forward to speaking again with you all soon. Operator, you may close out the call.
Speaker Change: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude the program and you may now disconnect. Everyone have a great day.
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