Q2 2025 Provident Financial Holdings Inc Earnings Call
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Bella: Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Bella, and I will be your conference operator today.
Bella: At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Provident Financial Holdings second quarter of fiscal 2025 earnings call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise.
Bella: After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad.
Speaker Change: To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. I would now like to turn the conference over to Donovan Ternes, President and Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Bella.
Speaker Change: Good morning. This is Donovan Ternes, President and CEO of Provident Financial Holdings. And on the call with me is Tam Nguyen, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.
Speaker Change: Before we begin, I have a brief administrative item to address. Our presentation today discusses the company's business outlook and will include forward-looking statements.
Those statements include descriptions of management's plans.
objectives or goals for future operations.
Products or services.
Speaker Change: forecasts of financial or other performance measures, and statements about the company's general outlook for economic and business conditions.
Speaker Change: We also may make forward-looking statements during the question and answer period following management's presentation.
Speaker Change: These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties and actual results may differ materially from those discussed today.
Speaker Change: Information on the risk factors that could cause actual results to differ from any forward-looking statement is available from the earnings release that was distributed earlier this morning.
Speaker Change: from the Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended June 30, 2024, and from the Form 10-Qs and other SEC filings that are filed subsequent to the Form 10-K.
Speaker Change: Forward-looking statements are effective only as of the date that they are made, and the company assumes no obligation to update this information.
Speaker Change: To begin with, thank you for participating in our call. I hope that each of you has had an opportunity to review our earnings release distributed earlier this morning, which describes our second quarter fiscal 2025 results.
Speaker Change: As a Southern California bank, I wanted to take a moment during our call this morning to thank the firefighters and first responders fighting the fires in Los Angeles.
Our thoughts are with those affected by the fires.
Speaker Change: We are actively monitoring the situation and have identified $23.7 million, or 2.2% of our loans held for investment portfolio.
Speaker Change: located in zip codes within the Fire Evacuation and Evacuation Warning Zones.
Speaker Change: We are aware of two homes with a combined loan balance of $658,000 with minor damage.
We believe both homes are fully insured.
Speaker Change: We will continue to monitor the fluid situation and will work with these borrowers during this challenging time.
Speaker Change: In the most recent quarter, we originated $36.4 million of loans held for investment, an increase from $28.9 million in the prior sequential quarter.
Speaker Change: During the most recent quarter, we also had $34.3 million of loan principal payments and payoffs, which is up slightly from $34 million in the September 2024 quarter.
Speaker Change: Currently, it seems that real estate investors have reduced their activity as a result of higher mortgage and other interest rates, although we continue to see moderate activity in loans held for investment.
Speaker Change: Additionally, we're seeing more consumer demand for single-family adjustable rate mortgage products as a result of higher fixed-rate mortgage interest rates.
Speaker Change: We have loosened a few of our underwriting requirements within certain loan segments to encourage higher loan origination volume.
Speaker Change: Additionally, our single-family and multi-family loan pipelines are similar in comparison to last quarter.
Speaker Change: suggesting our loan originations in the March 2025 quarter will be similar to the December 2024 quarter and around the high end of the range of recent quarters, which has been between 19 and 36 million dollars.
For the three months ended December 31st, 2024.
Loans held for investment increased by approximately $5 million.
Speaker Change: when compared to the quarter-ended September 30, 2024, with increases in the single-family and commercial business loans partly offset by decreases in the multifamily, commercial real estate, and construction loans.
Dr. Andrew Liesch, Timothy Coffey,
Speaker Change: Current credit quality continues to hold up very well and you will note that non-performing assets increased to just $2.5 million on December 31st, 2024, which is up from $2.1 million on September 30th, 2024.
Additionally, there were no early-stage delinquencies at December 31st, 2024.
Speaker Change: We continue to monitor commercial real estate loans, particularly loans secured by office buildings, but are confident that based on the underwriting characteristics of our borrowers and collateral, that these loans will continue to perform well.
Speaker Change: We have outlined these characteristics on slide 13 of our quarterly investor presentation which shows that our exposure to loans secured by various types of office buildings
Speaker Change: is approximately $40.4 million or 3.8% of loans held for investment.
Speaker Change: You should also note that we have just six CRE loans for $3.2 billion maturing in calendar 2025.
Speaker Change: The provision for credit losses recorded in the second quarter was primarily attributable to a longer estimated life of the loan portfolio, resulting from increased market interest rates and lower loan prepayment estimates.
Speaker Change: a slightly higher balance of non-performing and classified loans, and a small increase in the outstanding balance of loans held for investment.
Speaker Change: The allowance for credit losses to gross loans held for investment increased 5 basis points to 66 basis points at December 31, 2024, as compared to 61 basis points at September 30, 2024.
Speaker Change: Our net interest margin increased to 2.91% for the quarter ended December 31, 2024, compared to 2.84% for the sequential quarter ended September 30, 2024.
Speaker Change: The net result of a three basis point increase in the average yield on total interest earning assets and a five basis point decrease in the cost of total interest bearing liabilities.
Speaker Change: Notably, our average cost of deposits declined to 123 basis points.
Speaker Change: down by four basis points for the quarter ended December 31, 2024, compared to no change in the prior sequential quarter.
Speaker Change: In addition, our cost of borrowing decreased by 21 basis points in the December 2024 quarter compared to the September 2024 quarter.
that that interest margin this quarter was negatively impacted.
Speaker Change: by approximately two basis points as a result of higher net deferred loan costs associated with loan payoffs in the December 2024 quarter compared to the average net deferred loan cost amortization of the previous five quarters.
Speaker Change: New loan production is being originated at higher mortgage interest rates than the weighted average of the existing loan portfolio, but some of our adjustable rate loans may be repricing at interest rates that are lower than their current interest rates.
For example, we have approximately $124.3 million
of loans repricing in the March 2025 quarter.
Speaker Change: to an interest rate currently forecast to be five basis points lower to a weighted average interest rate of 7.51 percent from 7.56 percent.
Speaker Change: Conversely, we also have approximately $96.3 million of loans repricing in the June 2025 quarter to an interest rate currently forecast to be 57 basis points higher.
Speaker Change: I would point out that there is tremendous opportunity to reprice maturing wholesale funding downward as a result of current market conditions where interest rates have moved lower across all terms.
Excluding overnight borrowings, we have approximately $85.5 million.
Speaker Change: of Federal Home Loan Bank Advances and Brokered Certificates of Deposits maturing in the March 2025 quarter at a weighted average interest rate of 4.50%.
Speaker Change: Given market conditions, we would expect to reprice these maturities to a lower weighted average cost of funds.
Speaker Change: All of this suggests a continued expansion of the net interest margin in the March 2025 quarter but at a slower pace than that experienced in the current quarter.
Speaker Change: We continue to look for operating efficiencies throughout the company to lower operating expenses.
Speaker Change: Our FTE count at December 31st, 2024 increased to 162 compared to 160 on the same date last year.
Speaker Change: You will note that operating expenses were $7.8 million in the December 2025 quarter.
Speaker Change: and $167,000 of retirement plan benefit expenses that are not anticipated in future periods.
Speaker Change: As a result, for fiscal 2025, we continue to expect a run rate of approximately $7.5 million per quarter.
Speaker Change: Our short-term strategy for balance sheet management is somewhat more growth oriented than last fiscal year.
Speaker Change: We believe that disciplined growth of the loan portfolio is the best course of action at this time.
Speaker Change: as we recognize that the Federal Open Market Committee has recalibrated to looser monetary policy and the inverted yield curve has begun to reverse back to an upwardly sloping yield curve.
Speaker Change: We were partly successful in the execution of the strategy this quarter with loan origination volume at the high end of the quarterly range and loan prepayments similar to the prior sequential quarter.
Speaker Change: The composition of total interest-earning assets improved with a higher percentage of loans receivable to total interest-earning assets and a lower percentage of investment securities to total interest-earning assets.
Speaker Change: Although, the composition of total interest bearing liabilities deteriorated with a decrease in the average balance of deposits and an increase in the average balance of borrowings.
Speaker Change: We exceed well-capitalized capital ratios by a significant margin, allowing us to execute on our business plan and capital management goals without complications.
We believe that maintaining our cash dividend is very important.
Speaker Change: We also recognize that prudent capital returns to shareholders through stock buyback programs is a responsible capital management tool, and we repurchased approximately 64,000 shares of common stock in the December 2024 quarter.
Speaker Change: For the fiscal year to date, we have distributed approximately $1.9 million of cash dividends to shareholders and repurchased approximately $2.4 million worth of common stock through our stock repurchase plan.
Speaker Change: Accordingly, our capital management activities have resulted in a 154% distribution of fiscal 2025 net income to date.
Speaker Change: You should also note that the Board of Directors approved a new stock repurchase plan last week.
Speaker Change: We encourage everyone to review our December 31st investor presentation posted on our website.
Speaker Change: You will find that we included slides regarding financial metrics, asset quality and capital management, which we believe will give you additional insight on our solid financial foundation supporting the future growth of the company.
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Speaker Change: Stella, we will now entertain any questions you may have regarding our financial results.
Speaker Change: At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press start, then the number 1 on your telephone keypad. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster.
Speaker Change: Your first question comes from the line of Andrew Leash of Piper Sandler. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Thanks. Good morning.
Speaker Change: Donovan, a question on the loan growth commentary here. It seems like production is going to be, again, towards the higher end.
Speaker Change: I guess if you look out, I mean, is this going to be like this, maybe 50 to 60 basis points a quarter? How do you think or when do you think growth can accelerate from this path? What needs to happen for that to occur?
Speaker Change: Well, ultimately, mortgage interest rates need to decline from current levels to see large acceleration with respect to growth in the loan portfolio.
Speaker Change: lower mortgage interest rates. We would also expect more loan prepayments with respect to refinance activity.
Speaker Change: So I think this quarter it was approximately a 1.9% annual growth rate.
with respect to the loan portfolio.
Speaker Change: We would like to see that percentage grow as we look down the second half of our fiscal year and as we look toward our new fiscal year beginning July 1st.
Speaker Change: a flattening and upwardly sloping yield curve where it makes more sense for us to be more aggressive with respect to what it is we are doing in populating loan growth.
Speaker Change: than when the curve was inverted and it didn't make as much sense for us to be populating loan growth.
Speaker Change: Got it. That makes sense. And then on the margin, now that, speaking of the yield curve, it seems like there's still quite a bit of opportunities on the funding side.
Speaker Change: And you have some fixed rate assets that might be adjusting higher or reaching their adjust period. Should that trend continue? I mean, maybe we don't see seven basis points of expansion, but should the margin be in an uptrend here from now on, unless we see something different from the Fed?
Speaker Change: In the December quarter, we expanded margin by 7 basis points.
Speaker Change: We would anticipate that margin will expand in future quarters as well.
The interesting component that is a little bit different today
than it was in the September.
Speaker Change: In the December and the September quarters, the loans that we're repricing were actually repricing up from their current interest rates.
Speaker Change: So that's a flat or a little bit of a headwind with respect to margin, but on the flip side of that are interest-bearing liabilities.
As we described...
$85.5 million of wholesale funding.
should be repricing downward in the March quarter.
Speaker Change: It's currently, or those liabilities are currently priced at four and a half percent and we think we can reprice those liabilities into the high threes or low fours. So, there's still a tailwind with respect to our funding costs.
as it relates to net interest margin.
Speaker Change: But there's not as much of a tailwind as it relates to the loan portfolio and what is going on with repricing there.
Speaker Change: Although, again, as we described the June quarter, we actually see and can forecast the loan portfolio adjusting upward. So perhaps it swings to a tailwind again in the June quarter.
Speaker Change: Got it. Yep, makes sense. All right, thanks for taking the questions. I'll step back.
Just a little bit.
Speaker Change: At this time, if you would like to ask a question, press star 1 on your telephone keypad.
Speaker Change: I will now turn the call back over to Donovan Ternes for closing remarks.
Speaker Change: Well, I'd like to thank everybody for joining our call this quarter, and I look forward to our call next quarter. Thank you very much.
Speaker Change: Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.