Q1 2025 American Electric Power Co Inc Earnings Call

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Speaker Change: Good morning and welcome to American Electric Power's first quarter 2025 earnings call. A live webcast of the teleconference and slide presentation are available on our website under the events and presentation section.

Operator: A live webcast of this teleconference and slide presentation are available on our website under the events and presentations section.

Darcy Reese: Joining me today are Bill Fehrman, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Trevor Mihalik, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. In addition, we have other members of our management team in the room to answer questions if needed, including Kate Sturgis, Senior Vice President and Chief Accounting Officer.

Speaker Change: Joining me today are Bill Farman, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Trevor Mihalik, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. In addition, we have other members of our management team in the room to answer questions if needed, including Kate Sturgis, Senior Vice President and Chief Accounting Officer.

Darcy Reese: We will be making forward-looking statements during the call. Actual results may differ materially from those projected in any forward-looking statement we make today. Factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially are discussed in the company's most recent SEC filing.

Speaker Change: We'll be making forward-looking statements during the call. Actual results may differ materially from those projected in any forward-looking statement we make today.

Speaker Change: Factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially are discussed in the company's most recent SEC violence. Please refer to the presentation slides that accompany this call for reconciliation to GAAP measures . We will take your questions following opening remarks. With that, please turn to slide four and let me hand the call over to Bill.

Darcy Reese: Please refer to the presentation slides that accompany this call for a reconciliation to gap management.

Darcy Reese: We will take your questions following opening remarks.

Darcy Reese: With that, please turn to slide four and let me hand the call over to Bill. Thank you, Darcy. And good morning, everyone.

William Fehrman: Welcome to American Electric Power's first quarter 2025 earnings call. We are off to an exceptional start to the year where we delivered strong results and have advanced our long term strategy to drive robust growth, enhance the customer experience and achieve positive regulatory outcomes. We remain committed to investing $54 billion of capital over the next five years, an impressive amount close in size to our current market capitalization, to meet the needs of 5.6 million customers across 11 states. We are actively managing our supply chain to ensure we deliver on our commitment. Specifically related to current plan tariffs, we estimate that the direct tariff exposure on our $54 billion base capital plan for 2025 to 2029 is minimal at approximately 0.3%.

Bill Fehrman: Thank you Darcy, and good morning everyone. Welcome to American Electric Power's first quarter 2025 earnings call. We are off to an exceptional start to the year where we delivered strong results and have advanced our long-term strategy to drive robust growth, enhance the customer experience, and achieve positive regulatory outcomes.

Bill Fehrman: We remain committed to investing $54 billion of capital over the next five years and impressive amount close in size to our current market capitalization to meet the needs of 5.6 million customers across the 11 states.

Bill Fehrman: We are actively managing our supply chain to ensure we deliver on our commitments

Bill Fehrman: Specifically readily to current plant tariffs, we estimate that the direct tariff exposure on our $54 billion base capital plan for 2025 to 2029 is minimal at approximately 0.3%.

William Fehrman: We have a sizable generation portfolio and one of the largest transmission and distribution businesses in the nation. In fact, AEP owns and operates more 765KV transmission lines than all other utilities in the United States combined, and we were recently awarded construction to build one of the first 765KV lines in Texas. We are enabling extraordinary economic development in high-growth states like Indiana, Ohio, Oklahoma, and Texas, and stand to benefit from these once-in-a-lifetime opportunities presented by the Associated Low Growth.

Bill Fehrman: We have a sizable generation portfolio and one of the largest transmission and distribution distances in the nation.

Bill Fehrman: In fact, AEP owns and operates more 765 KV transmission lines than all other utilities in the United States combined and we were recently awarded construction to build one of the first 765 KV lines in Texas.

Bill Fehrman: We are enabling extraordinary economic development in high-growth states like Indiana, Ohio, Oklahoma, and Texas, and stance of benefit from these once-in-a-lifetime opportunities presented by the associate in the load growth. Trevor will go into this in more detail shortly.

William Fehrman: Trevor will go into this in more detail shortly. Our story continues to be one of consistency and commitment to delivering for our customers, states, regulators and investors as we center on execution and accountability. And we offer a compelling value proposition to our investors as we target 10 to 12% total annual shareholder returns.

Bill Fehrman: Our story continues to be one of consistency and commitment to delivering for our customers, states, regulators and investors as we center on execution and accountability. And we offer a compelling value proposition to our investors as we target 10 to 12 percent total annual shareholder return.

William Fehrman: We have a lot of exciting ground to cover today. I'll begin with a recap of our financial results at a high level before turning to strategic growth opportunities ahead and our recent regulatory and legislative success.

Bill Fehrman: We have a lot of exciting ground and cover today. I'll begin with a recap of our financial results at a high level before turning the strategic growth opportunities ahead and our recent regulatory and legislative successes.

Trevor Mihalik: I'll then hand the call over to Trevor to walk through our financial results in more detail.

Bill Fehrman: I'll then hand the caller over to Trevor to walk through our financial results in more detail. Please refer to today's presentation for our quarterly business highlights and achievements starting on slide five.

William Fehrman: Please refer to today's presentation for our quarterly business highlights and achievements starting on slide five. This morning we announced first quarter 2025 operating earnings of $1.54 per share, or $823 million. With this strong performance, we are reaffirming our 2025 operating earnings guidance range of $5.75 to $5.95 per share. and Long-Term Operating Earnings Growth Rate of 6 to 8%. This guidance is reinforced by a balanced and flexible $54 billion five-year capital plan with the potential for incremental investments of up to $10 billion over that same period. As we have communicated in the past, maintaining a strong balance sheet is vital to funding these capital spending needs.

Speaker Change: This morning we announced first quarter 2025 operating earnings of $1.54 per share or $823 million.

Speaker Change: With the strong performance, we are reaffirming our 2025 operating earnings guidance range of $5.75 to $5.95 per share, and long-term operating earnings grow of 6 to 8 percent.

Speaker Change: This guidance is reinforced by a balanced and flexible $54 billion five-year capital plan with the potential for incremental investments of up to $10 billion over that same period.

Speaker Change: As we have communicated in the past, maintaining a strong balance sheet as vital to funding these capitals spending needs.

William Fehrman: Later in the call, we'll go into more detail about AEP's commitment to credit quality and proactive actions we have taken in the first three months of 2025 to address AEP's equity needs. As we move forward, we will remain disciplined in sourcing efficient forms of capital to manage our needs in support of incremental investment opportunities.

Speaker Change: Later in the call, we'll go into more detail about AEP's commitment to credit quality and proactive actions we have taken in the first three months of 2025 to address AEP's equity needs.

Speaker Change: As we move forward, we will remain disciplined in sourcing the efficient forms of capital to manage our needs in support of incremental investment opportunities.

William Fehrman: We remain excited about the significant growth opportunities ahead, including the load growth in many parts of our service turf. This growth is not a show me story. It is happening. ADP's total retail load growth has already been favorable over the past few years, primarily driven by commercial customers. In the first quarter of 2025, our commercial load grew 12.3% compared to the first quarter of last year.

Speaker Change: We remain excited about the significant growth opportunities ahead, including the load growth and many parts of our service territory.

Speaker Change: This growth is not a show me story, it is happening. ADP's total retail low growth has already been favorable over the past few years, primarily driven by commercial customers. [inaudible]

Speaker Change: In the first quarter of 2025, our commercial load grew 12.3% compared to the fourth quarter of last year.

William Fehrman: As we look ahead, AEP is extremely well-positioned to participate in future growth across our footprint. We see opportunities to invest in critically needed infrastructure to support increasing electric demand. Our current capital plan includes customer commitments for over 20 gigawatts of incremental load by 2030, driven by data center demand, reshoring, manufacturing, and continued economic development. This incremental 20 gigawatts is about a 55% increase over 2024 system wide summer peak load. As we have consistently said, we are absolutely committed to fair cost allocation associated with this large load. To that end, we proactively filed the data center tariff in Ohio and large load tariff modifications in Indiana, Kentucky, Virginia, and West Virginia.

Speaker Change: As we look ahead, ADP is extremely well-positioned to participate in future growth across our footprint.

Speaker Change: We see opportunities to invest in critically needed infrastructure to support increasing electric demand.

Speaker Change: Our current capital plan includes customer commitments for over 20 gigawatts of incremental load by 2030, driven by data center demand, reshoring, manufacturing and continued economic development.

Speaker Change: This incremental 20 gig watt is about a 55% increase over 2024 system-wide summer pre-floor

Speaker Change: As we have consistently said, we are absolutely committed to fair cost allocation associated with this large load group. To that end, we proactively filed the data center Terrapinoe Highell and large load tariff modifications in Indiana, Kentucky, Virginia, and West Virginia.

William Fehrman: In the first quarter, we received commission approvals in Indiana, Kentucky, and West Virginia related to large load tariffs. The data center tariff hearing in Ohio also concluded in January and we expect to have a commission decision in the second half of this year.

Speaker Change: In the first quarter, we received commission approvals in Indiana, Kentucky and West Virginia related to large rural terraces.

Speaker Change: The data center term appearing in Ohio also concluded in January , and we expect to have a commission decision in the second half of this year.

William Fehrman: These are all strong indications of our state's continuing commitment to attracting large loads with their economic impacts on local communities while also protecting our existing customers. As we have previously discussed, meeting this incredible demand could require incremental investments of up to $10 billion, underpinned by four major drivers. large load and some of our bigger service territory. Continued economic development in our state. Investment Across the System in our Transmission and Distribution Infrastructure. and New Generation. One of the reasons we are seeing such growth now is due to investments we made over the past decade to build an advanced 40,000 mile transmission system that can help support current large loads.

Speaker Change: These are all strong indications of our state's continuing commitment to attracting large loads with their economic impacts on local communities while also protecting our existing customer base.

Speaker Change: As we have previously discussed, meeting this incredible demand could require incremental investment of up to $10 billion, underpinned by four major drivers.

large loading time with our bigger service territories.

Speaker Change: continued economic development in our states, investment across the system in our transmission and distribution infrastructure, and new generation.

Speaker Change: One of the reasons we are seeing such growth now is due to investments we made over the past decade to build an advanced 40,000 mile transmission system that can help support current large loads. Our transmission system also includes the nation's largest network of 765 and 345 KB lines.

William Fehrman: Our transmission system also includes the nation's largest network of 765 and 345 KV lines. These ultra-high voltage lines position us exceedingly well in attracting hyperscalers to our system who need consistent, large load, full power. We also continue to invest in our distributions. which is one of the nation's largest at approximately 225,000 miles. This includes work to harden infrastructure, build or rebuild poles, conductors, transformers, and other assets, as well as deploy automated technologies for enhanced operational performance. These efforts will help to increase customer satisfaction, strengthen our system's resilience to weather events, and enhance the efficiency of our operations.

Speaker Change: These ultra high-voltage lines position us exceedingly well in attracting hacker-scalers to our system who need consistent, large load, full power.

Speaker Change: We also continue to invest in our distribution system, which is one of the nation's largest at approximately 225,000 miles.

Speaker Change: This includes work to harden infrastructure, build a rebuild poles, conductors, transformers and other assets, as well as deploy automated technologies for enhanced operational performance.

Speaker Change: These efforts will help to increase customer satisfaction, strengthen our systems' resilience to weather events, and enhance the efficiency of our operations.

William Fehrman: As our generation needs increase to meet growing demand, we are engaging with key stakeholders and making thoughtful investments in new generations to align with their needs and state policies. Our team has worked diligently to develop creative energy solutions that keep our customers' needs top of mind. We have already shared our plans to begin the early site permit process in Indiana and Virginia for small modular reactors, or SMRs, that can generate clean, reliable energy to support significant load growth in our services. And we recently filed Integrated Resource Plans, or IRPs, in both Arkansas and Indiana. These IRPs, in addition to other planned IRP filings over the next year in Kentucky, Michigan, Virginia, and West Virginia, will help meet our customers energy needs and support AEP's generating capacity obligations, reinforcing our incredible growth.

Speaker Change: Although generation needs increase to be growing demands, we are engaging with peace stakeholders and making thoughtful investments in new generation to align with their needs and state policies.

Speaker Change: Our team has worked diligently to develop creative energy solutions that keep our customers needs top of mind.

Speaker Change: We have already shared our plans to begin the early site permit process in Indiana and Virginia for small modular reactors for SMRs.

Speaker Change: and we recently filed integrated resource funds for IRP's in both Arkansas and Indiana.

Speaker Change: These IRPs, in addition to other planned IRP filings over the next year in Kentucky, Michigan, Virginia and West Virginia, will help meet our customers, energy and support AEPs generating the path of the obligations, reinforcing our incredible growth.

William Fehrman: The fact is that demand for power is growing at a pace not seen in decades, and our expansive footprint enables us to significantly participate in this electric infrastructure superpower.

Speaker Change: The fact is that demand for power is growing at a pace not seen in decades, and our expansive footprint enables us to significantly participate in this electric infrastructure super cycle.

William Fehrman: Now let's pivot to some traditional regulatory and legislative. In my nine months here at ADP, I have been actively engaged with stakeholders to underscore the importance of our customers and communities and how we work to meet their needs. Building on our meaningful progress in achieving positive regulatory developments in the second half of 2024, we're off to a great start in 2025 with approximately 80% of our rate-related revenue already secured for this year. In fact, ADP's first quarter earned ROE for our regulated businesses was 9.3%, up from 9.05% at year-end. As a reminder, some recent regulatory successes include A recent commission decision approving construction in ERCOP's Permian Basin for one of the first 765 KV transmission lines in Texas, opening up tremendous investment opportunities for ADP Texas.

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Speaker Change: In my nine months here at AP, I have been actively engaged with stakeholders to underscore the importance of our customers and communities and how we work to meet their needs.

Speaker Change: building on our meaningful progress in achieving positive regulatory developments in the second half of 2024, where you're also a great start in 2025 with approximately 80% of our rate-related revenue are ready secure for this year.

Speaker Change: In fact, AEP's first quarter earned ROE for our re-bladed businesses was 9.3% up from 9.05% at your end.

Speaker Change: As a reminder, some recent regulatory successives include a recent commission decision approved reconstruction and earth ops permeant basin for one of the first 765 KV transmission lines in Texas, opening up tremendous investment opportunities for ADP Texas.

William Fehrman: PJM transmission system upgrades awarded to AP affiliates, including Transource Energy and our transmission System resiliency plans approved at AEP Texas and a unanimous settlement reached at SWEPO. Phase cases approved in Oklahoma and Virginia, and recovery of annual transmission expense approved in Kentucky. In late March, we also filed a new base case in Arkansas, requesting a rate increase of $114 million. This ask is primarily to align regulatory recovery of certain wind including great implementation of the Diversion and Wagon Wheel project. Our application includes an ROE request of 10.9% and SWEPCO anticipates an order and new rates effective in the first quarter of 2020.

Speaker Change: PTAM Transmission System Upgrades, awarded to AP Affiliates, including Transource Energy, and our Transmission Companies.

Speaker Change: System resiliency plans approved at AUP Texas and the unanimous settlement reached its wet coat Texas.

Speaker Change: In late March, we also filed a new base case in Arkansas requesting a rate increase of $114 million. This ask is primarily to align regulatory recovery of certain wind projects, including the great implementation of the diversion and wagon law projects.

Speaker Change: Our application includes an ROE request of 10.9% and swept home to space in order and new rates effective in the first quarter of 2026.

William Fehrman: Previously, APCO filed its base case in West Virginia while offering securitization of up to $2.4 billion as a tool to mitigate the bill impact of a proposed $250 million base rate increase. The procedural schedule just kicked off last month with intervenor testimony and rebuttal testimony will follow later this week. The hearing is set to start in mid-June. We look forward to working with everyone in this case to achieve a positive and balanced outcome later this year. We are intently focused on reducing regulatory lag and have made a number of other timely filings so far in 2025.

Speaker Change: Previously, FCO filed its base case in West Virginia while offering securitization of up to $2.4 billion as a tool to mitigate the bill impact of a proposed $250 million base rate increase.

Speaker Change: The procedural schedule just kicked off last month with the intervener testimony and the rebuttal testimony will follow later this month The hearing is set to start in mid-June We look forward to working with everyone in this case to achieve a positive and balanced outcome later this year

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Speaker Change: We are intently focused on reducing regulatory light and have made a number of other timely violence so far in 2025, including the AEP Texas T-Cost and DCRF by Anger Violence, as well as Wreff Cove's annual Foreign Regulatory Plan that will lead to Anna.

William Fehrman: including the AEP Texas TCOS and DCRF biannual filings, as well as WEPCO's annual formula rate plan in Louisiana. For I&M, the team recently filed to acquire an 870-megawatt natural gas plant in 2026, which is located in Oregon, Ohio. That will help I&M customers continue to benefit from reliable and affordable resources.

Speaker Change: For INM, the team recently filed to acquire 870 megawatt natural gas plants in 2026, which is located in Oregon, Ohio. That will help INM customers continue to benefit from reliable and affordable resources.

William Fehrman: We are also working diligently at the legislative level in a number of jurisdictions to advance policy changes to improve both recovery and customer affordability. For example, in Ohio, the recent passage of House Bill 15 positively results in multi-year forward-looking test years for future rate cases. and includes grandfathering language for two behind the meter fuel Trevor will go into further detail on the OVEC related And in Virginia, we supported securitization legislation that will both reduce customer bills and support critical investments in the system. You can expect to see us continue to work with federal policy makers, regulators, and state legislators.

Speaker Change: We are also working diligently at the legislative level and a number of jurisdictions to advance policy changes to improve both recovery and customer affordability.

Speaker Change: For example, in Ohio, the recent passage of House Bill 15 positively results in multi-year forward-looking testiers for future rate cases, and includes grandfathering language for two behind-the-meet-your-field-to-contract.

Speaker Change: Trevor will go into further detail on the O-Back related impacts.

Speaker Change: and in Virginia, we supported security and legislation that will both reduce customer bills and support critical investments in the system. You can expect to see us continue to work with federal policymakers, regulators and state legislators as we further modernize our energy grid.

William Fehrman: As we further modernize our energy... We firmly believe that the best way to create value for our investors is by delivering safe, affordable, and reliable energy to our customers and communities, and we are engaging with stakeholders to support efforts to do just that. I'm increasingly confident in our exciting growth potential as opportunities to benefit our customers, communities and investors come into focus. And I look forward to building on our track record of value creation in the months and years ahead.

Speaker Change: We firmly believe that the best way to create value for investors is by delivering safe, affordable and reliable energy to our customers and communities. Then we are engaging with stakeholders to support efforts to do just that.

Speaker Change: I'm increasingly confident in our exciting growth potential as opportunities to benefit our customers, communities, and investors come into focus.

Speaker Change: And I look forward to building on our track record of value creation in the months and years ahead. With that, I'll turn it over to Trevor who will walk us through AP's first quarter of performance drivers and other financial information.

Trevor Mihalik: With that, I'll turn it over to Trevor, who will walk us through AP's first quarter performance drivers and other financial Thank you, Bill. Today, I'll review our financial results for the first quarter, build on Bill's remarks about our exceptional low growth. Comment on our credit metric.

Thank you, Bill.

Trevor Mihalik: Today, I'll review our financial results for the first quarter, build on build remarks about our exceptional low growth, comments on our credit metrics, further discuss the recent successful $2.3 billion forward equity issuance that completes our anticipated equity needs to 2029 and addressed our thoughts on federal tax legislation.

Trevor Mihalik: Further to discuss the recent successful $2.3 billion forward equity issuance that completes our anticipated equity needs through 2029 and address our thoughts on federal tax legislation. Let's go to slide seven, which shows the comparison of gas to operating earnings for the quarter. Gap earnings for the first quarter were $1.50 per share. compared to $1.91 per share in 2024. There is a detailed reconciliation of gap to operating earnings for the quarter on slide 26 of today's presentation. In the quarter, due to the passage of Ohio House Bill 15, we recorded a charge of $28 million related to the write-off of previously deferred OBEC costs which we no longer believe are probable of recovery.

Trevor Mihalik: Let's go to slide seven for showing the comparison of gaps to operating earnings for the quarter. Gap earnings for the first quarter were $1.50 per share compared to $1.91 per share in 2024.

Trevor Mihalik: There is a detailed reconciliation of gap to operating earnings for the quarter on slide 26 of today's presentation.

Trevor Mihalik: In the quarter, due to the passage of Ohio House Bill 15, we recorded a charge of $28 million related to the write-off of previously deferred OBEC costs, which we no longer believe are probable of recovery.

Trevor Mihalik: From an operating earnings perspective. And effective upon becoming law this summer, House Bill 15 removes AEP Ohio's ability to recover losses or record gains from the sale of OVEC power. Historical losses recovered from customers were approximately $40 million in 2024. However, we expect the earnings impact going forward to be significantly muted given upcoming capacity prices in PJM. Prospectively, the impact is manageable and less than $10 million of earnings on an annualized basis.

Trevor Mihalik: From an operating earnings perspective and effective upon becoming law this summer, House Bill 15 removes AEP Ohio's ability to recover losses or record gains from the sale of OVAC power.

Trevor Mihalik: Historical losses recovered from customers were approximately $40 million in 2024. However, we expect the earnings impact going forward to be significantly muted given upcoming capacity prices in PGM.

Trevor Mihalik: Prospectively, the impact is manageable and less than ten million dollars of earnings on an annualized basis.

Trevor Mihalik: Let's walk through our quarterly operating earnings performance by segment on slide 8. Operating earnings for the first quarter total $1.54 per share compared to $1.27 per share in 2024. This was an increase of 27 cents per share, or about 20% quarter over quarter, highlighting a strong start to the year and creating solid momentum for the rest of 2025.

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Trevor Mihalik: Let's walk through our quarterly operating earnings performance by segment on slide 8.

Trevor Mihalik: Operating earnings for the first quarter total $1.54 per share compared to $1.27 per share in 2024.

Trevor Mihalik: This was an increase of 27 cents per share, or about 20% quarter over quarter, highlighting a strong start to the year and creating solid momentum for the rest of 2025.

Trevor Mihalik: I would note that weather accounted for about 18 cents of the quarter-over-quarter variance. This was driven by the cold weather that most of our service areas experienced in the first quarter of this year. which was contrasted with the exceptionally mild weather seen in the same period of 2024. Looking at the drivers by segments, operating earnings for the vertically integrated utilities were $0.66 per share, up $0.09 from a year earlier. Positive drivers included favorable changes in weather and rate changes across multiple jurisdictions. The Transmission and Distribution Utility segment earned $0.36 per share, up $0.07 from last year.

Trevor Mihalik: I would note that whether a calendar for about 18 cents of the quarter of a quarter variant.

Trevor Mihalik: This was driven by the cold weather and most of our service areas experience in the first quarter of this year, which was contrasted with the exceptionally mild weather scene in the same area of 2024.

Trevor Mihalik: Looking at the driver's bike segments, operating earnings for the vertically integrated utilities were 66 cents per share, up 9 cents from a year earlier.

Trevor Mihalik: Positive drivers include in favorable changes in weather and rate changes across multiple

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Trevor Mihalik: The Transmission and Distribution Utility segment earned 36 cents per share, up 7 cents from last year.

Trevor Mihalik: Favorable drivers in this segment included rate changes driven by rider recovery of distribution investments in Ohio and the base rate case in Texas. favorable weather and higher transmission revenue. The AV Transmission Holco segments contributed 44 cents per share, up 4 cents from last year. Our continued investment in transmission assets as new loads are added to our system remain a key driver in this segment. Generation and Marketing produced $0.14 per share, up $0.02 from last year. Favorable retail and wholesale margins were partially offset by lower distributed generation margins due to the sale of the onsite partners business in September of 2024.

Trevor Mihalik: Favorable drivers in this segment included rate changes driven by rider recovery of distribution investments in Ohio and the base rate case in Texas.

Favourable weather and higher transition revenue.

Trevor Mihalik: The AEB Transmission Holco segment contributed 44 cents per share, up 4 cents from last year.

Trevor Mihalik: Our continued investment in transmission assets as new loads are added to our system, remain the key driver in the segments.

Trevor Mihalik: Generation and Marketing produced 14 cents per share of two cents from last year.

Trevor Mihalik: Favorable retail and wholesale margins were partially offset by lower distributed generation margins due to the sale of the on-site partners business in September of 2024.

Trevor Mihalik: Finally, corporate and other saw a benefit of five cents per share, primarily driven by the timing of income taxes, of which three cents is expected to reverse by the end of the year.

Trevor Mihalik: Finally, corporate and other, so I've benefited a five cents per share, primarily driven by the timing of income taxes of which three cents is expected to reverse by the end of the year.

Trevor Mihalik: Moving to slide nine. I want to highlight the significant increases in load we continue to see across our system. As Bill mentioned, the increasing load growth coming to the system is providing the opportunity to add up to $10 billion of incremental capital over the next five years to our already sizable $54 billion plan. Since our last call, both Amazon Web Services and Google have connected hyperscale data centers to our system in Indiana, representing billions of dollars in customer investment. This comes on top of the existing data center customers in Ohio and Texas, who continue to ramp up at a double digit pace.

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Trevor Mihalik: I want to highlight the significant increases in load. We continue to see across our system.

Bill Fehrman: As Bill mentioned, the increasing load growth coming to the system is providing the opportunity to add up to $10 billion of incrementally capital over the next five years to our already sizable $54 billion plan.

Bill Fehrman: Since our last call, both Amazon Web Services and Google have connected hyperscale data centers to our system in Indiana representing billions of dollars in customer investment.

Bill Fehrman: This comes on top of the existing data center customers in Ohio and Texas, who continue to ramp up at double digit pace.

Trevor Mihalik: We also saw new large industrial load continue to come online in Texas across a variety of customers and industries.

Bill Fehrman: We also saw new large industrial load continue to come online in Texas across a variety of customers and industries.

Trevor Mihalik: All of this puts us on track to nearly triple the pace of our retail sales growth from 3% in 2024 to almost 9% in 2025. That represents the largest acceleration of load at AEP since the late 1960s, a truly once in a generation opportunity. In fact, we expect that step change and growth to be maintained well into the future. Our current forecast supports annual retail low growth at between 8% and 9% through 2027. That's equivalent to roughly 52 incremental megawatt hours that we expect to serve relative to our current load of 182 million megawatt hours or nearly a 30 percent increase.

Bill Fehrman: All of this puts us on track to nearly triple the pace of our retail sales growth from 3% to 2024 to almost 9% in 2025.

Bill Fehrman: That represents the largest acceleration of load at AEP since the late 1960s, a truly once-in-a-generation opportunity. In fact, we expect that step change in growth to be maintained well into the future.

Bill Fehrman: Our current forecast supports annual retail low growth of between 8% and 9% through 2027.

Bill Fehrman: That's equivalent to roughly 52 million incremental megawatt hours that we expect to serve relative to our current load of 182 million megawatt hours or nearly a 30% increase.

Trevor Mihalik: More than offsetting the decline in our residential sales is a massive and sustained increase in demand from our C&I customers. Based on our current contracted lows, our C&I sales mix will grow from roughly two-thirds of total retail to nearly three-quarters over the next several years.

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Bill Fehrman: More than offsetting the decline in our residential sales is a massive and sustained increase in demand from our C&I customers

Bill Fehrman: Based on our current contracted loads, our C&I sales mix will grow from roughly two-thirds of total retail to literally three-quarters over the next several years.

Trevor Mihalik: There is a slide in the appendix that shows a bit more detail on first quarter sales by class. Those growth rates are one of the best in the industry, and we have confidence that these lows are going to show up. We have a significant amount of demonstrated and diverse demand across our system.

Bill Fehrman: There is a slide in the appendix that shows a bit more detail on first quarter sales by class.

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Bill Fehrman: Those growth rates are one of the best in the industry, and we have confidence that these lows are going to show up.

Bill Fehrman: We have a significant amount of demonstrated and diverse demand across our system.

Trevor Mihalik: But I think it's also important to highlight what that demand looks like and how we're incorporating it into our projection.

Bill Fehrman: But I think it's also important to highlight what that demand looks like and how we're incorporating it into our projections.

Trevor Mihalik: You will see on slide 10 a piece of that demand. through some illustrative examples of the types of projects we're adding to our system. First and foremost, let's start with a number of overall requests to connect to the system. Across our 11 state operating footprints, we currently have more than 500 existing and potential customers actively requesting to connect almost 180 gigawatts of load to our transmission system. For context, our system-wide summer peak was just under 37 gigawatts last year. So we have nearly five times that amount active in the queue. Now, obviously, we know that not all of the requests will come online, which is why we take great care in using a probability based approach to determine the likelihood of these loads as part of our annual load forecast.

Bill Fehrman: You will see on Fly Pen a piece of that demand through some illistered examples of the types of projects we're adding to our system.

Bill Fehrman: First and foremost, let's start with a number of overall requests to connect to the system.

Bill Fehrman: Across our 11 state operating footprints, we currently have more than 500 existing and potential customers actively requesting to connect almost 180 gigawatts of load to our transmission system.

Bill Fehrman: For context, our system-wide summer peak was just under 37 gigawatts last year, so we had nearly five times that amount active in the queue.

Bill Fehrman: Now obviously, we know that not all of the requests will come online, which is why we take great care in using a probability based approach to determine the likelihood of these loads as part of our annual load forecast.

Trevor Mihalik: So far, we've committed to adding just over 20 gigawatts onto the system over the next five years, which, in the context of our queue, is relatively conservative. Given the dynamic nature of AI driving the surge of data centers and large industrials coming online, we think it's vital to rely on demonstrated customer demand to build out our planning forecast. We believe the best mechanisms to demonstrate the demand are executed contracts backed by financial commitments, including Electric Service Agreements, or ESAs, and Letters of Agreement, or LOAs, showing how firm these loads really are. Every megawatt in the forecast you see here is supported by LOAs.

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Bill Fehrman: So far, we've committed to adding just over 20 gigawatts onto the system over the next five years, which in the context of our queue is relatively conservative.

Bill Fehrman: Given the dynamic nature of AI driving the surge of data centers and large industrials coming online, we think it's vital to rely on demonstrated customer demand to build out our planning forecast.

Bill Fehrman: We believe that best mechanisms to demonstrate to the men are executed contracts backed by the National Commission, including electric service agreements or ESAs and letters of agreements or L.O.A.'s, showing how firm these loads really are.

Trevor Mihalik: In addition to LOAs and PJM, 80% of the load growth in this region is also backed by ESAs, which are take or pay contracts requiring customers to pay for power as of a certain start date, irrespective of their off take. This not only helps confirm that customers' projects are real, but also incentivizes customers to stick to the schedule, reducing the risk to our existing customers and investors from a project not coming online. This is also why we've been very active and working with our regulators to strengthen and lengthen the tariff provisions in those contracts. Our contract terms, coupled with a Q that is nearly 10 times the size of our current increased load forecast, gives us great confidence that this demand will show up, which in turn makes us confident in our $54 billion capital plan with incremental upside.

Bill Fehrman: Every megawatt in the forecast you see here is supported by LOAs. In addition to LOAs in PGM, 80% of the load growth in this region is also backed by ESAs, which are take or pay contracts.

Bill Fehrman: Requiring customers to pay for power as of a certain start date irrespective of their off-take.

Bill Fehrman: This not only helps confirm that customers' projects are real, but also incentivizes customers to stick to the schedule, reducing the risk to our existing customers and investors from a project not coming online.

Bill Fehrman: This is also why we've been very active and working with our regulators to strengthen and lengthen the terror provisions in those contracts.

Bill Fehrman: Our contract terms coupled with a queue that is nearly 10 times the size of our current increased load forecast gives us great confidence that this demand will show up, which in turn, makes us confidence in our $54 billion capital plan with incremental upside.

Trevor Mihalik: Should any of these projects be canceled or postponed, in addition to the protective financial provisions in the contracts, our queue means that we have other active customers to slot right into place and take up that capacity.

Bill Fehrman: Should any of these projects be canceled or postponed, in addition to the protective, financial provisions in the contracts, our Q means that we have other active customers to slot right into place and take up that capacity.

Trevor Mihalik: In addition to the demonstrated demand that we're seeing across the system, it is also important to note the diversity in that demand. While data centers are driving the majority of the load growth in the coming year, We are also contracted to add roughly 6 gigawatts of industrial load across a number of diverse industries, including steel, autos, and energy. This diversity reassures us that the demand behind our capital plan is solid and can hold up across several different economic environments, including those with tariff impacts that we may find ourselves in over the next several years.

Bill Fehrman: In addition to the demonstrated demand that we're seeing across the system, it is also important to note the diversity in that demand.

Bill Fehrman: While data centers are driving a majority of the low growth in the coming years,

Bill Fehrman: We are also contracted to add roughly six gigawatts of industrial load across a number of diverse industries including steel, auto and energy.

Bill Fehrman: This diversity reassures us that the demand behind our capital plan is solid and can hold up across several different economic environments, including those with tariff impacts that we may find upheld in over the next several years.

Trevor Mihalik: Let's move on to slide 11 to discuss AEP's liquidity and commitment to credit quality. Recall that AEP's funding plan supporting our capital spend through 2029 originally included $5.35 billion sourced from equity. In January, we secured a minority equity interest investment in the Ohio and INM transcos with KKR and PSP investments for $2.82 billion. This deal is value accretive at 2.3 times rate base and 30.3 times price to earnings.

Bill Fehrman: Let's move on to slide 11 to discuss the AEP's liquidity and commitment to credit quality.

Bill Fehrman: Recall that AEP's funding plan supporting our capital spend through 2029 originally included $5.35 billion dollars source from equity.

Bill Fehrman: In January , we secured a minority equity interest investment in the Ohio and IONM transgos with KKR and PSC investments for $2.82 billion.

Bill Fehrman: This deal is value or creatives at 2.3 times rate base and 30.3 times twice the earnings.

Trevor Mihalik: We expect to close in the coming months, and the only remaining item outstanding is FERC approval, which we file for on February 3rd. In March, we saw a compelling opportunity to further de-risk our funding needs through a $2.3 billion forward equity transaction, including the Green Shoe, that allowed us to capitalize on known market conditions and manage the timing of proceeds. In combination with the expected proceeds from the minority transactions, I am pleased that we now have completed our anticipated equity needs through 2029 associated with our $54 billion capital project. Those two transactions are equivalent to issuing common stock at approximately $140 per share, a 25% premium to our current share price.

Bill Fehrman: We expect to close in the coming months and the only remaining item outstanding is Spark Approval, which we fall for on February 3rd.

Bill Fehrman: In March, we saw compelling opportunities to further de-risk our funding needs through a $2.3 billion board equity transaction, including the green tooth, that allowed us to capitalize on known market conditions and manage the timing of proceeds.

Bill Fehrman: In combination with the expected proceeds from the minority transactions, I am pleased that we now have completed our anticipated equity needs through 2029 associated with our $54 billion capital plan.

Bill Fehrman: Those two transactions are equivalent to issuing common stock at approximately $140 per share, a 25% premium

Trevor Mihalik: Moving on to federal tax legislation and specific to transferability impacting FFOs. We believe a complete, retroactive IRA repeal is unlikely based on our many conversations with policymakers. If there is a repeal, we would expect any potential legislation to provide business certainty by protecting the qualifying tax incentives for existing projects, as well as safe harbored projects currently under construction. This would give us the ability to monetize tax credits in a timely manner and meet our financial commitments.

Bill Fehrman: We believe a complete, retroactive IRA repeal is unlikely based on our many conversations with policymakers.

Bill Fehrman: If there is a repeal, we would expect any potential legislation to provide business certainty by protecting the qualifying tax incentives for existing projects as well as safe Harvard projects currently under construction.

Bill Fehrman: This would give us the ability to monetize tax credits in a timely manner and meet our financial conditions.

Trevor Mihalik: You can see the FFO to debt metric stands at 13.2% for the 12-month ended March 31st, which is a 0.2% decrease from the prior quarter. However, the minority interest transaction is expected to improve near-term FFO-to-debt by 40 to 60 basis points, which sets us up to be well above our credit threshold and puts us on a path to be in the targeted 14 to 15 percent FFO-to-debt window.

Bill Fehrman: You can see the FFOTA Death Method stand at 13.2% for the 12-month ended March 31st, which is a 0.2% decrease from the prior quarter.

Bill Fehrman: However, the minority interest transaction is expected to improve near-term FFO to death by 40-60 basis points, which sets us up to be well above our credit threshold and puts us on a path to be in the targeted 14-15% FFO to death window.

Trevor Mihalik: Finally, let's move on to slide 12.

Trevor Mihalik: Before we take your questions, I wanted to summarize what you heard from us today. First, you heard that we have taken significant actions to de-risk our financial plan through the highly attractive and accretive minority interest transmission transaction, which is expected to close in the coming months. coupled with a $2.3 billion equity offering completed in late March prior to the current market turbulence. These transactions combined complete our anticipated equity needs through 2029 to support our current $54 billion capital plan.

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Bill Fehrman: Finally, let's move on to slide 12. Before we take your questions, I wanted to summarize what you heard from us today.

Bill Fehrman: First, you heard that we have taken significant actions to de-risk our financial plan through the highly attractive and accretive minority interest transmission transactions, which is expected

Bill Fehrman: Coupled with the $2.3 billion equity offering completed in late March prior to the current market for Berlin.

Bill Fehrman: These transactions combined complete our anticipated equity needs through 2029 to support our current $54 billion capital plan.

Trevor Mihalik: Second, you heard that we delivered strong financial results in the first quarter, growing earnings substantially compared to last year. Positive regulatory developments have set a strong foundation and are paving the way for a successful 2025. Third, you heard about our remarkable low growth story underpinned by major economic development activities across our footprint, providing significant investment opportunities in our utilities and creating an attractive growth profile for our investors. We highlighted the regulatory progress on retail tariffs that we've made to enable these low additions to result in a fair allocation of costs and protections for our existing customers.

Bill Fehrman: Second, you heard that we delivered strong financial results in the first quarter, growing earnings substantially compared to last year. Positive regulatory developments have set a strong foundation and are paving the way for a successful 2025.

Bill Fehrman: Third, you heard about our remarkable load growth story underpin by major economic development activities across our footprints, providing significant investment opportunities in our utilities and creating an attractive growth profile for our investors.

Bill Fehrman: We highlighted the regulatory progress on retail tariffs that we've made to enable these low additions to results in a fair allocation of cost and protection for existing customers.

Trevor Mihalik: Fourth, you heard about our continued focus on the execution of our unprecedented $54 billion capital plan with the potential for incremental investments of up to $10 billion.

Bill Fehrman: Fourth, you've heard about our continued focus on the execution of our unprecedented $54 billion capital plan with a potential for incremental investments of up to $10 billion.

Trevor Mihalik: In summary, our confidence in achieving our 2025 commitments remains strong, and we are reaffirming our operating earnings guidance range of $5.75 to $5.95 per share, our long-term growth rate of 6% to 8%, and targeted FFO to debt of 14% to 15%.

Bill Fehrman: In summary, our confidence in achieving our 2025 commitments remains strong and we are reaffirming our operating earnings guidance range of $5.75 to $5.95 per share.

Bill Fehrman: A long-term growth rate of 68% and targeted FFO to death of 14 to 15% [inaudible]

Operator: With that, I'm going to ask the operator to open the call so we can take your questions. At this time, I'd like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad.

Bill Fehrman: With that, I'm going to ask the operator to open the call so we can take their questions.

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Bill Fehrman: At this time, I'd like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Our first question will come on the line of Ishar Pourreza with Guggenheim. Please go ahead.

Shahriar Pourreza: Our first question will come from the line of Shahriar Pourreza with Guggenheim. Please go ahead. Hey guys, good morning. Hey, good morning, Shahriar. How are you? Good morning. Oh, well, very well.

Hey, guys, good morning.

William Fehrman: Bill, just I know West Virginia is, you know, one of the first rate cases you kind of rolled up your sleeves for, you know, after you know, that prior bad outcome, which obviously predated you. I guess how are conversations going there, especially around securitization? Can you settle this before the mid June hearing? Yeah, I really appreciate the question. We've been having, first of all, at a high level, really good luck with a lot of our regulatory outcomes across the system. And I'm really pleased with The work that the team has been doing to focus closer in on our local communities and our states and pushing us to do what our states want.

Big morning shark, how are ya? [inaudible]

Good morning. Oh well. Very well.

Speaker Change: Bill, I know West Virginia is, you know, one of the first race cases you kind of rolled up your sleeves for, you know, after, you know, that prior bad outcome, which obviously predated you. I guess how are conversations going there, especially around securitization? Can you settle this before the mid-June hearings, thanks. [inaudible]

Thank you very much.

Speaker Change: Yeah, really appreciate the question. We've been having first of all at a high level really good luck with a lot of our regulatory outcomes across the system, and I'm really pleased with...

William Fehrman: And in the case of West Virginia, I'm excited with where we're at. The hearing is scheduled for June with the commission decision later on this year. We've incorporated securitization as an option to enhance customer affordability. We've worked with the teams there and we believe that this offers a really significant benefit to our customers by potentially reducing the impact on their bills by almost 75%. So, I think there's really some interesting opportunities here, because that would essentially decrease the increase we're looking forward to around 3.8%. But ultimately, the decision rests with the commission and we look forward to working with all of the stakeholders to achieve a favorable outcome for everyone.

Speaker Change: I'm excited with where we're at. The hearing is scheduled for June.

with the Commission decision later on this year.

We've incorporated securitization as an option to enhance the customer affordability.

Speaker Change: We've worked with the teams there and we believe that this offers a really significant benefit to our customers by potentially reducing the impact on their bills by almost 75% so I think there's

Really some interesting opportunities here because that would...

Speaker Change: Essentially decrease the increase we were looking for to around 3.8% but ultimately the decision rests with the commission and we look forward to working with all the stakeholders to achieve a favorable outcome for everyone and we'll participate in.

William Fehrman: And we'll participate in discussions as they come up. But right now, overall, though, I'm very, very excited with how the organization is responding in our states. And I think as you hopefully listen to all of the positive regulatory outcomes we've had over the past few months, you'll see that we're really moving in the right direction and I'm really excited about where we're at.

Speaker Change: Discussions as they come up, but right now, over all though, I'm very, very excited with how the organization is responding in our states, and I think as you hopefully listen to all of the positive regulatory outcomes we've had.

Speaker Change: over the past few months you'll see that. We're really moving in the right direction and I'm really excited about where we're at.

Shahriar Pourreza: Perfect, fantastic.

William Fehrman: And then just lastly, the 20 gigawatts of load you have out there, we've seen some pullback with at least, you know, one hyperscaler in Ohio, Microsoft, I think, is the notable, I think, in your service territory. I guess, how are conversations going with the hyperscalers more specifically? Are you seeing any kind of sense of pullback? So trying to get a sense with that customer class specifically, there seems to be some conflicting data points out there with the caveat, you guys have a diverse load environment, right? Specific on Hyperscale. Sure. Well, of course, overall on our system, demand remains really robust.

Thank you very much.

Perfect, fantastic, and then just lastly,

Speaker Change: The 20-gigawatt's a load you have out there. We've seen some pullback with at least one hyper-scaler in Ohio, Microsoft I think is the notable. I think in your service territory. I guess our conversations going with the hyper-scaler is more specifically. Are you seeing any kind of sense of pullbacks? Are you trying to get a sense? Are you trying to get a sense? Are you trying to get a sense? Are you trying to get a sense?

Speaker Change: Would that customer class specifically, if there seems to be some conflicting data points out there? Would the caveat you guys have a diversified, you know, low environment, right? Right, but...

Specific on hyperscalers, thanks.

Trevor Mihalik: Sure, well, of course, overall, our system demand remains really robust, and as Trevor noted, we've got over 500 existing and potential customers that are looking to connect 180 gigawatts of load.

William Fehrman: And as Trevor noted, we've got over 500 existing and potential customers that are looking to connect 180 gigawatts of load on the transmission system. And so, despite the fact that Microsoft made a decision to delay their projects, we've got an incredible backlog that want to come onto our system. And we're very excited about working with those customers and getting them connected. I don't really see a reduction in our other load coming from data centers or hyperscalers or the industrials for that matter, because we've contracted at about 6 gigawatts of industrial load as well across the system and really given us a diversity that will strengthen the company overall for us going forward.

Trevor Mihalik: on the transmission system. And so despite the fact that Microsoft made a decision to delay their projects.

Trevor Mihalik: We've got an incredible backlog that want to come onto our system and we're very excited about working with those customers and getting them connected.

Trevor Mihalik: I don't really see a reduction in our other load coming from data centers or hyperscalers or the industrials for that matter because...

Trevor Mihalik: We've contracted that about six gigawatts of industrial load as well across the system and really given us a diversity that will strengthen the company overall for us going forward and so I think we're in they...

William Fehrman: And so, I think we're in a very strong position. This diversity provides confidence that the demand supporting our capital plan is really resilient and capable of enduring these various economic outcomes. So, whether Microsoft is with us or not, we see really significant demand coming forward, and we've got plenty of folks who want to jump in if they want to jump out. Got it. Perfect. Fantastic, guys.

Trevor Mihalik: These very economic outcomes. So whether Microsoft is with us or not, we see really significant demand coming forward and we've got plenty of folks who want to jump in if they want to jump out.

Shahriar Pourreza: Congrats.

Got it, perfect, fantastic guys, great, see you soon.

Aidan Kelly: Our next question comes from the line of Jeremy Tonet with J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead. Hey, good morning. This is actually Aidan Kelly on for Jeremy. Just focusing on the low growth again, it looks like total retail sales were up around 3.2% versus the 8.8% 2025 target. And then also with the commercial up 12% versus 24% target. How do you reconcile like the sales trends we've seen this quarter against your 2025 forecast? Would this imply a strong pickup later in the year? And are there any sensitivities we should think about here in general?

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Speaker Change: Our next question comes from the line of Jeremy Tonet with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

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Speaker Change: Hey, good morning. This is actually Aiden Kelly on for Jeremy. Just focusing on the low growth again. It looks like total retail sales were up around 3.2% first.

Speaker Change: V8.8% 2025 target, and then also with commercial 12% first 24% target. How do you reconcile like the sales trends we've seen this quarter against your 2025 forecast? Would this imply a strong pick up later in the year and are there any sensitivities we should think about here in general?

Trevor Mihalik: Yeah, Aidan, thanks for the question. This is Trevor. So I would start by saying the anticipated low growth, particularly, you know, the the rapid eight to nine percent increase that we're seeing over the next several years, does open up substantial capital investment opportunities. And we expect that to, you know, drive consistent and robust earnings growth, you know, especially in the second half of the decade. So to your specific question, while near term earnings impacts are somewhat muted, due to the the general lower profit margins of the CNI customers compared to the residential customers, I would say the rapid addition of CNI load really does create additional headroom and and further enhances, you know, customer affordability.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thanks for the question. This is Trevor.

So, I would start by saying the anticipated load roads [inaudible]

Speaker Change: Particularly the rapid 8-9% increase that we're seeing over the next several years.

does open up substantial capital investment opportunities.

Speaker Change: and we expect that to drive consistent and robust earnings growth.

especially in the second half of the decade.

Speaker Change: So, to your specific question, while near term earnings impact are somewhat muted due to the general lower profit margins of the C&I customers compared to the residential customers [inaudible]

Speaker Change: I would say the rapid addition of CNI load really does create additional headroom and further enhances customer affordability.

Trevor Mihalik: Just kind of as a rule of thumb or an example, the margins from the vertically integrated residential customers are roughly five times larger than those of our data center customers. And for our T&D customers, that ratio is almost eight to one. So, you know, you'll see a little bit of a decline in margins as we see some efficiencies on the residential side. But overall, this is really just a very positive growth story around CNI and what we're able to do to deploy capital over the long term. So we feel very good about it.

Speaker Change: Just kind of as a rule of thumb or an example, the margins from the vertically integrated residential customers are roughly five times larger than those of our data center customers.

Speaker Change: and for our T&D customers, that ratio is almost eight to one. [inaudible]

Speaker Change: So you'll see a little bit of decline in margins.

Speaker Change: as we see some efficiencies on the residential side. But overall, this is really just a very positive growth story around CNI and what we're able to do to deploy capital over the long term. So we feel very good about it.

Trevor Mihalik: Got it, that's helpful. Thanks, Trevor.

Trevor Mihalik: And then just maybe switching gears to kind of the opening remarks on Ohio. Could you just walk through the puts and takes, you know, from shifting away from ESPs into NYPs? And, you know, to what extent does this impact your regulatory strategy in the state and future rate case timing in general? Sure, well, HB 15 was a legislation that ultimately received approval from both chambers. It has not been sent to the governor yet. We expect that to happen really any day now. Once that happens, the governor has 10 days to sign the bill, and then we anticipate that the bill will become law, thinking early August, which is 90 days after his approval.

Thank you.

Speaker Change: Got it, that's helpful, thanks Trevor. And then just maybe switching gears to kind of the opening remarks on Ohio.

Speaker Change: Could you just walk through the puts and takes, you know, from shifting away from ESPs into MIPs and, you know, to what extent does this impact your regulatory strategy in the state and future AKs timing in general?

All right.

Speaker Change: Sure, well, HB-15 was a legislation that ultimately received approval from both chambers. It has not been sent to the governor yet. We expect that to happen really any day now.

Speaker Change: Once that happens, the governor has ten days to sign the bill and then we anticipate that the bill will become law.

Speaker Change: Thinking early August , which is 90 days after his approval, my view of this legislation is that it's highly constructive, it supports capital investment growth in Ohio and really actually provides benefits to our customers.

William Fehrman: My view of this legislation is that it's highly constructive. It supports capital investment growth in Ohio and really actually provides benefits to our customers. For us, the main provisions that impact our business, first and foremost, is the new legislation that ends ESP, and it introduces a multi-year forward-looking test year with a true-up mechanism. So that is a significant advantage for us. It promotes timely recovery of our investments. And then, unlike other Ohio utilities, our transition from ESP-5 to the new construct will proceed seamlessly with no gaps in our timing. And so, really looking forward to moving through that transition.

Speaker Change: ESP and it introduces a multi-year forward looking test year with a true up mechanism so that is a significant advantage for us. It promotes timely recovery of our investments and then unlike other Ohio utilities.

R transition from ESP 5 to the new construct.

We'll proceed seamlessly with the no gaps in our timing. And so...

William Fehrman: It's going to be an incredible advantage for us going forward.

Speaker Change: Really looking forward to moving through that transition, it's going to be an incredible advantage for us going forward.

William Fehrman: And then, the second piece was the behind-the-meter components of the legislation. So this legislation, again, we're happy with the outcome here. It basically grandfathers the two projects that we had in flight with our Bloom Energy solution for the data centers that we previously have discussed. This will preserve those existing agreements. And then, we have Basically, the flexibility to deploy future fuel cell purchases to other affiliates, and so we're going to continue to offer that as an alternative in our other areas, and then make sure that we deliver on our commitments to the two customers that we have in Ohio.

and then the second piece was behind the meter.

Components of the legislation, so this. [inaudible]

Speaker Change: Legislation. Again, we're happy with the outcome here. It basically grandfathers the two projects that we have in flight with our bloom energy solution for the data centers that we previously have discussed.

This will preserve those existing agreements and then we have...

Basically, the flexibility to deploy future fuel cell purchases.

Speaker Change: to other affiliates. And so we're going to continue to offer that as an alternative in our other areas. And then make sure that we deliver on our commitments to the two customers that we have in Ohio. And then the third piece of this is is...

Trevor Mihalik: And then the third piece of this is the OBEC issue, and I'll turn that over to Trevor to describe. But I think overall, it's something that we'll be able to manage through, so Trevor.

Speaker Change: The Old Beck issue, and now I'll turn that over to Trevor to describe, but I think overall it's something that will be able to manage through so Trevor. Yes, terrific, thanks Bill.

Trevor Mihalik: Terrific. Thanks, Bill. Yeah. So with regards to the OBEC situation, historically, we've indicated that ending the cost recovery would result in roughly a $40 million impact, and that's what it's done in years past. Again, as we said in our prepared remarks, given the upcoming capacity prices in PJM, we expect the earnings impact to be really significantly muted to the tune of about potentially $0.02, or we said roughly $10 million of earnings. And that's something that I think is very manageable and we can incorporate prospectively.

Trevor Mihalik: Yeah, so with regards to the Ovec situation, historically we've indicated that ending the cost recovery would result in roughly a $40 million impact and that's what it's done in years past

Trevor Mihalik: Again, as we said in our prepared remarks, given the upcoming capacity prices in PJM,

Trevor Mihalik: We expect the earnings impact to be really significantly muted to the tune of about potentially two cents or we said roughly $10 million of earnings.

Aidan Kelly: As Bill also just mentioned here, this will probably most likely become law and take effect in mid-August, and so we will get recovery up through that date. And so I think this is one of those things that is really not a huge earnings driver for us, and we can deal with this going forward. Appreciate the color. I'll leave it there. Thanks. Absolutely. Thanks, Aidan. Yep, thanks.

Trevor Mihalik: Probably most likely become law and take effect in mid-August and so we will get recovery up through that date. And so I think this is one of those things that is really not a huge earnings driver for us and we can deal with this going forward.

Thank you.

I appreciate the color, I'll leave it there, thanks [inaudible]

David Paz: Our next question comes from the line of David Paz with Wolf Research. Please go ahead. Hey, good morning. Morning.

Absolutely, thanks Hayden, thanks Thanks.

Speaker Change: Our next question comes from the line of David Paz with Wolf Research. Please go ahead.

Thank you for watching!

David Paz: You, I know you addressed this, I think, on the previous question to a certain degree, but maybe the commercial sales in particular for 2025, see that they're tracking at least year-over-year 12 percent, but you're targeted a little higher for the full year. Just are you seeing any delays on, was there a specific shaping that you may have talked about previously that, you know, that's playing out in terms of just back-end loaded for the year for 2025 on commercial? Yeah, David. So I think the good thing, and we mentioned this in the prepared remarks, is with the commercial load growth, what we're seeing is a lot of these counterparties are signing the LOAs and entering into firm contracts with us.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Speaker Change: I know you addressed this, I think, on the previous question to a certain degree, but maybe the commercial sales in particular for 2025, see that they're tracking at least year over year, 12%, but you're talking a little higher for the full year.

Speaker Change: Just, are you seeing any delays with their specific shape thing that you may have about previously that's playing out in terms of just back and loaded for the year for 2025 on promotional sales?

Thank you.

Speaker Change: Yeah, David, so I think the good thing, and we mentioned this in the prepared remarks is [inaudible]

Speaker Change: With the commercial load growth, what we're seeing is a lot of these counter parties are signing the L.O.A.'s and entering into firm contracts with us. And so these are, again, really...

Trevor Mihalik: And so these are, again, really take-or-pay contracts that are enabling us, irrespective of what their load looks like, to ensure that they are starting to pay under those contract terms. And so while the step-up of 12% is really positive, we continue to see people signing these take-or-pay type contracts, and I think you'll continue to see additional load coming on over the next several years. And so this is all very positive in that regard, but I wouldn't say it's shaped towards the back end or anything to that regard. I think it's really more just a steady increase in commercial load coming on that we have seen over the last several months here.

Speaker Change: Take or pay contracts that are enabling us irrespective of what their load looks like to ensure that they are starting to pay under those contract terms.

Speaker Change: And so, while the step-up of 12% is really positive, we continue to see people signing these...

Speaker Change: Take-or-pay type contracts and I think you'll continue to see additional load coming on over the next several years.

Speaker Change: and so this is all very positive in that regard, but I wouldn't say it's shaped towards the back end or anything to that regard. I think it's really more just a steady increase in commercial load coming on that we have seen over the last several months here.

David Paz: Okay, so for 2025, you still anticipate about 22%. That's right. Year-end 25 versus year-end 24. Okay. Yeah.

Thank you.

Thank you for watching!

Okay, so for 2025, you still want to say about 23 percent.

William Fehrman: And then just, you just touched on this, the previous question on the Bloom Partnership, but will... Will there be a... How should we think about the deployment versus what you have before the Ohio law? Understanding it's not, you know, the Ohio market or AP Ohio market is not there.

Speaker Change: That's right, you're in 25 versus you're in 24, okay. Yeah, and then just you just touched on this with previous question and partnership but we'll

Will there be a...

Speaker Change: Now, how should we think about the deployment versus what we have before the Ohio law, understanding it's not, you know, the Ohio market or APO, Ohio market is not there, but will this change any type of the schedule of deployment for the remaining one gig? [inaudible]

William Fehrman: But will this change any type of the schedule of deployment for the remaining one gig? Well, we're in the market to sell those to customers who are interested in this technology. It will not affect at all the two projects that we have in flight. Those will go forward as planned, and those are well underway. So, for the remaining 900 megawatts that we have available to us, we do have a number of customers that we're in conversations with and feel optimistic that there may be deals coming down the road. So, we'll see where this all heads and can certainly report on this more as future calls come this year.

Thank you.

Speaker Change: Well, we're in the market to sell those to customers who are interested in this technology. It will not affect at all the...

Speaker Change: The two projects that we have been flight those will go forward as planned and those are well under way. So for the remaining 900 megawatts that we have available to us.

We do have a number of customers.

Speaker Change: that we're in conversations with and feel optimistic that there may be deals coming down the road, so we'll see where this all heads and can certainly report on this more as future calls come this year.

Trevor Mihalik: And let me add just one thing, Bill, if I could on that. The remaining 900 megawatts is really an option for us. We're not obligated to take those, those fuel cells. And so if we can find capacity and customers to take them, that makes sense, we will do that. But again, we're not obligated to. Yeah, the original 100 megawatts that we did contract are taken care of. Yeah. Great.

Speaker Change: And let me add just one thing Bill, if I could on that. The remaining 900 megawatts.

Thank you.

David Paz: Thank you. Yep.

Julian Dumoulin Smith: Our next question comes from the line of Julian Dumoulin Smith with Jeffries. Please go ahead. Hey, good morning team. Thank you guys very much. Appreciate it. Nicely done here.

Thank you. Yep.

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Speaker Change: Our next question comes from the line of a Julien Dumoulin Smith with Jeffries. Please go ahead.

Speaker Change: Hey, good morning team. Thank you guys very much. Appreciate it nicely done here Thank you very much.

Julian Dumoulin Smith: Just wanted to follow up on the $10 billion upside number here. I just want to understand a little bit of what's already approved here. What do you have line of sight even within that $10 billion bucket? It seems like there could be some various pieces there. And then also, what are you waiting for in terms of line of sight to formally introduce that? As you say, it's within the five-year program. You comment several different times about this being tied to the load growth and the relative degree of confidence you have on the load growth. So effectively, what are we waiting for?

Speaker Change: Just wanted to follow up on the 10 billion upside number here. I just wanted to understand a little bit of what's already approved here? What do you have line of sight even within that 10 billion dollar bucket? It seems like there could be some various pieces there. And then also what are you waiting for in terms of line of sight to formally introduce that? If you say it's within the five year program.

Speaker Change: You comment several different times about the things tied to the low growth and the relative degree of confidence you have on the low growth. So, effectively, what are we waiting for? What are the set pieces there that would enable you to confidence more formally integrated than in the plan?

Julian Dumoulin Smith: What are the sub pieces there that would enable you the confidence to more formally integrate in that new plan?

Julian Dumoulin Smith: Yeah, Julian, it's Trevor. Appreciate the question. I would say what we're really doing is we're setting the cadence where we want to come out with a formal growth plan on an annual basis. And we'll generally do that around call the third quarter call right before we go into EEI, unless there's something material that that would increase that $10 billion plan or $10 billion potential upside to the $54 billion plan. That being said, I think, you know, it's important to note that the recently awarded 765 transmission lines, for example, in Texas, you know, that's roughly $1 to $2 billion that's not in the current plan.

Thank you. Thank you.

Yeah, Julien, it's Trevor. I appreciate the question.

Speaker Change: I would say what we're really doing is we're setting the cadence where we want to come out with a formal growth plan on an annual basis and we'll generally do that around...

Speaker Change: Call the third quarter call right before we go into EEI. Unless there's something material that would increase that $10 billion or $10 billion potential upside to the $54 billion plan.

Speaker Change: That being said, I think it's important to note that the recently awarded 765 transmission lines, for example, in Texas, that's roughly $1 to $2 billion that's not in the current plan.

Trevor Mihalik: And so as things firm up, we will continue to look at how we manage the overall portfolio spend relative to what our customers need and what the states want. And that'll impact a large part of what that $10 billion looks like. I think roughly, if you wanted to kind of take a look at that $10 billion, we've said publicly that roughly about a half of that $10 billion relates to transmission. And the remaining is a majority of that is generation projects in the various service territories as we file and look at the various capacity and needs in the state.

Speaker Change: And so as things firm up, we will continue to look at how we manage the overall portfolio spend relative to what our customers need and what the states want.

Speaker Change: and that will impact a large part of what that 10 billion looks like.

I think roughly if you wanted to kind of...

Take a look at that 10 billion.

Speaker Change: We've said publicly that roughly about a half of that 10 billion relates to transmission.

Speaker Change: and the remaining is a majority of that is generation projects in the various service territories as we file and look at the various capacity and needs in the states.

Trevor Mihalik: But again, we have great opportunities, not only in ERCOT, we also have opportunities in PJM. And, you know, we continue to flesh those out.

Speaker Change: But again, we have great opportunities not only in ERCOTS, we also have opportunities in PJM.

Julian Dumoulin Smith: And we'll come with more definitive answers when we roll out our revised five-year capital plan in the third quarter. Got it. Okay, fair enough.

Speaker Change: and we continue to flesh those out and we'll come with more definitive answers when we roll out our revised five-year capital plan in the third quarter.

Julian Dumoulin Smith: And maybe just to elaborate a little bit further, what is in that 5 billion generation bucket? Can you speak a little bit to, you know, how you think about that versus the load growth numbers that you have? Is it, is this just about getting line of sight on on RFPs coming out of anticipated load growth? Or is there something further within that here?

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Speaker Change: Got it. Okay, fair enough. Maybe just to elaborate a little bit further. What is in that?

Speaker Change: 5 billion generation bucket. Can you speak a little bit to, you know, how you think about that versus a little of those numbers that you have? Is this just about getting line of sight on our fees coming out of? [inaudible] I don't know. I don't know.

within that here.

Speaker Change: No, it's largely what you just said there. It's the RFPs, it's also looking at...

Speaker Change: Potential Wind Projects, or other renewable projects in various states. It's also related to potentially some combined cycles as we look at what the overall capacity needs are and the generation needs are in our service territory. So these are items that we have a line of site to but we have not firmly committed to yet.

William Fehrman: Oh, actually, just to clarify, you've got two acquisitions out there, one potentially in Oklahoma and one in Indiana or Ohio specifically, those are included in the plan? And you intend to move forward with those? That's right, that's correct. Those were items that were included and we do have you know the needs in those states for that generation and so those those are in there. Awesome.

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Speaker Change: Oh, actually, this is a clarify. You've got two acquisitions out there, one potentially in Oklahoma and one in Indiana or Ohio specifically. Those are included in the plan and you intend to move forward with those.

Speaker Change: That's right, that's correct, those were items that were included and we do have the needs in those states for that generation and so those are in there.

Julian Dumoulin Smith: All right, I'll leave it there. I'll pass it on. Thank you guys very much.

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Speaker Change: Awesome. Alright, I'll leave it there. I'll pass it out. Thank you guys very much. Down again. Thanks.

Durgesh Chopra: Our next question comes from the line of Durgesh Chopra with Evercore. Please go ahead. Hey, team. Good morning. Thanks for giving me time. I just wanted to start off with Q1 earnings performance. So the report numbers are higher than where we thought you would end up in the quarter. You mentioned the weather benefits, but you also reaffirmed guidance for the year. I appreciate there are three more quarters to go with third quarter being the largest. Let me just comment on how first quarter turned out. What's your expectations? Are you going into the balance of the year higher than where you expected to be?

Thanks.

Speaker Change: Our next question comes from the line of Durgesh Chopra with Evercore. Please go ahead.

Thank you for watching!

Thank you very much.

Hey team, good morning. Thanks for giving me time.

Speaker Change: It just wanted to start off with the Q1 starting performance, so the board numbers are higher than where we thought you would end up in the quarter. You mentioned the weather benefit.

Speaker Change: But you also reaffirmed guidance for the year. I appreciate their three more quarters to go with their quarter being the largest. We just comment on how first quarter turned out. What's your expectation? Are you going into the balance of the year higher than where you expected to be just any color that would be helpful? Thank you.

Durgesh Chopra: Just any color would be helpful. Thank you.

Trevor Mihalik: Yeah, thanks, Durgesh. So as you did highlight, weather was a significant driver, as was some of the rate impacts as we rolled out the revised rates in certain jurisdictions. But weather was a significant opportunity for us in the quarter. I will say, you know, that's roughly in line with where we anticipated we would be. And we feel very good about laying out our full year guidance range and staying within that guidance range. And as you indicated, it's still fairly early with just the first quarter. But we're going to be very disciplined in our capital allocation.

Speaker Change: Yeah, thanks Durgesh. So, as you did highlight, whether was a significant driver, as was some of the...

Speaker Change: The rate impacts, as we rolled out, the revised rates in certain jurisdictions, but whether was a significant ...

Opportunity for us in the quarter. I will say…

You know, that's roughly...

Speaker Change: in line with where we anticipated we would be and we feel very good about you.

Speaker Change: laying out our full-year guidance range and staying within that guidance range.

Speaker Change: and as you indicated, it's still fairly early with just the first quarter. [inaudible]

Trevor Mihalik: We are looking for ways to ensure we're doing things efficiently at the operating companies as well as at the corporate center, to drive efficiencies and to drive affordability for our customers. But I feel good about the 560 or the 575 to 595 guidance range that we put out in the 6 to 8% long term growth rate, and certainly would anticipate that we would, you know, again, talk to that in the second quarter, as we continue to see some of the successful regulatory outcomes roll out that we've seen over the last few months here. Got it.

Speaker Change: But we're going to be very disciplined in our capital allocation. We are looking for ways to ensure we're doing things efficiently at the operating companies as well as at the corporate center to drive efficiencies and to drive affordability for our customers.

Speaker Change: But I feel good about the 5.75 to 5.95 guidance range that we put out in the 68% long-term growth rate and certainly would anticipate that we would

Speaker Change: You know, again, talk to that in the second quarter as we continue to see some of the successful regulatory outcomes roll out that we've seen over the last few months here.

Trevor Mihalik: Sounds like things are on track.

William Fehrman: Okay, then switching gears to just the part. Co-location process here. A couple of weeks ago, the IPPs came out and sort of suggested settlement talks.

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Speaker Change: Got it, sounds like things are on track. Okay, let's switching gears to just the part.

Speaker Change: Co-location process here, a couple of weeks ago, the IPPs came out and sort of suggested Selma Talks. Any color you can share there on what might be happening behind the curtains and timelines for a potential Selma River 3K?

William Fehrman: Any color you can share there on what might be happening behind the curtains and timelines for a potential settlement if it's reached. This is BGM. Sure. So, this bill, on the colocation issues, we've said many times on this is that we're not against colocation. What we are wanting to make sure is that anyone doing that sort of arrangement pay their appropriate fees on the transmission system. And so, we're continuing to follow the process at FERC, and that's moving forward, and we'll continue to be engaged fully. But at the end of the day on this, it's really more about ensuring that if you use the transmission system, you pay your fair share.

This is DJ Swamp.

Speaker Change: of arrangement pay their appropriate fees on the transmission system. And so, we're continuing to follow the process at FERC and that's moving forward and we'll continue to be engaged fully but at the end of the day on this it's really more about

William Fehrman: And so, we'll continue to monitor this and see where it goes. Got it.

Speaker Change: ensuring that if you use the transmission system, you pay your fair share and so we'll continue to monitor this and see where it goes.

William Fehrman: Thanks, Bill. Thanks, Trevor.

Durgesh Chopra: And congrats on the start of the year. Thank you. Thanks, Durgesh.

Thank you for watching!

Speaker Change: Thank you, Bill, thank you, Trevor, and congrats on the Swarth Starter of the Year.

Nick Campanella: Our next question comes from the line of Nick Campanella with Barclays. Please go ahead. Hey, thanks for all the updates. I just wanted to follow up on the CapEx upside. I'm just curious if you could talk about how you would plan on financing the $10 billion if you were to kind of wrap it into the plan into next year. Like, do you have additional levers to pull on the asset sales side, or could the securitization pending in West Virginia impact the company's overall equity needs in any way? I guess just, do you have any levers to kind of mitigate what's been more of a more traditional, I don't know, 40 to 50 percent of funding across the industry?

Thank you, thank you, thank you guys [inaudible]

Speaker Change: Our next question comes from the line of Nick Campanella with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Hey, thanks for all the updates [inaudible]

Just a follow up.

Henry

Speaker Change: Hey, I just wanted to follow up on the CAPX upside. I'm just curious if you could talk about how you plan on financing the $10 billion if you were to kind of wrap it into the plan into next year. Like do you have?

Speaker Change: Additional levers to pull on the asset sales side or could the securitization of pending West Virginia impact the companies overall equity needs in any way. I guess just you have any levers to kind of mitigate what's been more of a more traditional. I don't know 40 to 50% of funding across the industry. Thank you very much.

Trevor Mihalik: Yeah, so Nick, one of the things we did, and we said on the year-end call in February, that we had the $5.35 billion of overall equity that we needed over the five-year plan, and $2.8 billion of that was taken care of already with the sale of the transcos. And then, given where Bill and I were in March, we anticipated we'd rather take the market we know, and so we went out with the remaining $2.3 billion, which really effectively takes all the equity, the marketed equity, off the table over the five-year plan. So when you look at the incremental $10 billion, even if we needed to fund that with some level of growth equity, that would be on the back end of the plan, because we've already pre-funded a lot of that equity on the $2.8 billion on the sale, and then the $2.3 billion is done under the forward through December 2026.

Thank you very much.

Speaker Change: Yeah, so Nick one of the things we did and we set on the year end call in February .

Speaker Change: that we had the 5.35 billion of overall equity that we needed over the five-year plan and 2.8 billion of that was taken care of already with the sale of the transgoze.

Speaker Change: And then, given where Bill and I were in March, we anticipated we'd rather take the market we know, and so we went out with the remaining $2.3 billion, which really effectively takes all the equity, the market equity off the table over the five-year plan.

Speaker Change: Even if we needed to fund that with some level of growth equity, that would be on the back end of the plan because we've already pre-funded a lot of that equity on the 2.8 billion on the sale and then the 2.3 billion is done under the forward through December 20th, 2026.

Trevor Mihalik: And so when you look at that, we've really taken care of all the equity needs, even with the forward, in really the first two years of the five-year plan.

Speaker Change: And so when you look at that, we've really taken care of all the equity needs even with the forward in really the first two years of the five year plan.

Trevor Mihalik: And so if we were to come back and firm up the $10 billion, I think we would really be in a equity in the near term, and then we will come back at a later time as to how we would fund that. To some of the points you raised, specifically, again, you mentioned the securitization and why we believe that securitization is highly beneficial for our customers in modulating the rates. It also allows us to take approximately $2.4 billion of cash and deploy that cash elsewhere. And so there's a lot of levers like that. And then lastly, I would say we also would look at potential hybrids that we have out there, whether it's junior subordinated debt, and I know others in the market have been utilizing those structures as well.

Speaker Change: And so if we were to come back and firm up the $10 billion, I think we would really be in a situation where we would not need to issue incremental equity in the near term, and then we will come back at a later time as to how we would fund that.

to some of the points you raised specifically again. And...

Speaker Change: You mentioned the securitization and why we believe that securitization is highly beneficial for our customers in modulating the rates. It also allows us to take approximately $2.4 billion of cash and deploy that cash elsewhere.

Speaker Change: and so there's a lot of levers like that and then last year I would say we also would look at potential hybrids that we have out there whether it's junior subordinated debt and I know others in the market have been utilizing those structures as well and so we do have a lot of other levers to pull.

Trevor Mihalik: And so we do have a lot of other levers to pull. That being said, I think we do like our assets.

Trevor Mihalik: And from our perspective, I don't think you're going to see us sell down any more transmission or anything to that effect. But rather, we would look at ways to finance the growth in a very, very shareholder-friendly way.

Speaker Change: That being said, I think we do like our assets and from our perspective, I don't think you're going to see us sell down any more transmission or anything to that effect, but rather we would look at ways to finance the growth in a very, very shareholder friendly way.

Nick Campanella: Hey, that was great color. I appreciate that. Thanks for that.

Thank you for watching!

Trevor Mihalik: And then just one quick clarification. I know you kind of mentioned in your prepared remarks, your comments on IRA. Is there just any quantifiable exposure? You know, if transferability did go away, would that impact your plans whatsoever? Do you have any exposure there? Thanks.

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Speaker Change: Hey, that was great color. I appreciate that. Thanks for that. And then just one quick clarification. I know you kind of mentioned in your prepared remarks, your comments on IRA. Is there just any quantifiable exposure, you know, it's transfer ability to go away with that impact your plans whatsoever? Do you have any exposure there? Thanks.

Trevor Mihalik: Yeah, so I would say, again, on the whole IRA, walking it back, and I think this kind of gets back to some of the comments we made in our prepared remarks, but we really do believe that a complete retroactive repeal of IRA is pretty unlikely, and that if a repeal does occur, we would expect the tax incentives for the existing projects and safe harbored that are under construction will be protected. You know, I think, really, when you look at this, All of AEP's existing tax credits, along with really all the anticipated tax credits through 2027, are safe harbored and would not be impacted by this proposal.

Speaker Change: Yeah, so I would say, again, on the whole IRA, walking it back in, and I think this kind of gets back to some of the comments we made in our prepared remarks.

Speaker Change: But we really do believe that a complete retroactive repeal of IRA is pretty unlikely and that if a repeal does occur we would expect the tax incentives for the existing projects and safe harbored projects that are under construction will be protected.

You know, I think really when you look at this...

Speaker Change: All of AEP's existing tax credits along with really all the anticipated tax credits through 2027 are safe harbored and would not be impacted by this proposal.

Trevor Mihalik: And so then people have kind of questioned us with regards to the specific dollar amounts, and I would say transferability in our plan is manageable. It's roughly, you know, 200 million dollars currently, and then over the next several years it averages about 300 million dollars. But all of that is really pertains to safe, harbored, and pre-IRA projects that are expected to continue to qualify under the transferability. So again, very limited exposure in that regard from the IRA repeal language that's being talked about right now.

Speaker Change: and so then people have kind of questioned us with regards to the specific dollar amounts, and I would say...

Transferability in our plan. And...

Speaker Change: is manageable. It's roughly $200 million currently, and then over the next several years, it averages about $300 million.

Speaker Change: But all of that is really pertains to safe Harvard and pre-IRA projects that are expected to continue to qualify under the transferability. So, again, very limited exposure in that regard from the IRA repeal language that's been talked about right now.

Nick Campanella: Appreciate all those details. Thank you again. Thanks, NET-EQ.

Thank you for watching!

Thank you for watching!

Appreciate all of the details. Thank you again.

Carly Davenport: Our next question comes from the line of Carly Davenport with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions.

Thanks, Nick. Thank you.

Speaker Change: Our next question comes from the line of a Carly Davenport with Goldman Sachs, please go ahead.

Trevor Mihalik: Maybe to start, just to follow up, Trevor, on some of your comments earlier on the margin contribution from Resi versus CNI customers. Can you just talk a little bit about the Resi dynamics, striving not to track negative over the last several quarters here? Is that something you're watching? And do you anticipate something shifting there to get you back towards that full year forecast for 2025? Yeah, Carly, thanks for the question. And we certainly are focused on residential customers. And I think what you're seeing is we do have slight increases in residential actual meter count, but what we're seeing is that's being more than offset by the decline in throughput on the residential side, mostly from efficiency and people really focusing on the costs to go through a cold winter like we just had.

Good morning, thanks for taking the questions.

Carly Davenport: Maybe to start, just to follow up Trevor on some of your comments earlier on the margin contribution from Rezi versus CNI customers. Can you just talk a little bit about the Rezi Dynamics driving not to track negative over the last several quarters here? Is that something you're watching and do you anticipate something shifting there to get you back towards that full year forecast for 25?

Carly Davenport: Yeah, Carly, thanks for the question. And we certainly are focused on residential customers.

Carly Davenport: And I think what you're seeing is we do have slight increases in residential actual meter counts, but what we're seeing is that's being...

More than offset by...

Carly Davenport: The decline in throughput on the residential side, mostly from efficiency and people really focusing on the costs to go through a cold winter like we just had. So from our perspective, I think.

Trevor Mihalik: So from our perspective, I think we do watch it. We do see that C&I is adding a lot of growth that is helping to offset that. But again, as I mentioned, the C&I really margins are a lot less than residential. And so we continue to monitor that. But what we need to do is continue to find ways to deliver very high quality service to our residential customers at an affordable price. And then that will continue to be something that will offset some of the efficiencies that they're doing or the use that they're declining in. Got it.

Carly Davenport: We do watch it. We do see that C&I is adding a lot of growth that is helping to offset that. But again, as I mentioned, you know, the C&I...

Carly Davenport: and really margins are a lot less than residential, and so we continue to monitor that. But what we need to do is continue to find ways.

Carly Davenport: to deliver a very high quality service to our residential customers at an affordable price, and then that will continue to be something that will offset some of the efficiencies that they're doing or the use that they're declining in.

Carly Davenport: Great. That's helpful. Thank you.

William Fehrman: And then could you maybe talk a little bit about the 765 KV Permian Opportunity Set? Does any color on how we could think about sizing what that CapEx could look like or the timing to deploy it? And is that something that is in the $10 billion of identified upside to the plan?

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Carly Davenport: Got it. Great. That's helpful. Thank you. And then could you maybe talk a little bit about the 765 KV Permian Opportunity Set? Just any color on how we could think about sizing what that CapEx could look like or the timing to deploy it? And is that something that is in the 10 billion dollars of identified upside to the plan?

William Fehrman: Yeah, good morning. So first of all, we're very, very excited about that outcome in Texas. When we think about the opportunities there, going to 765 was a very strong message by the government and regulators in Texas that they, they foresee a very strong future for for the business climate there and the need for energy and the fact that they moved to 765 is an incredibly strong statement about what they what they view as their potential in Texas. And so for us, Of course, we were the original innovator of 765 back in 1960 and have been building it and perfecting it for many years, and in fact, really the only company in the country that has the capabilities to do this.

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Speaker Change: Yeah, good morning. So, first of all, we're very, very excited about that outcome in Texas. When we think about the opportunities they're going to 765 was

Speaker Change: A very strong message by the government and regulators in Texas that they foresee a very strong future for the business climate there in the need for.

Speaker Change: Energy, and the fact that they moved to 765 is an incredibly strong statement about what they view as their potential in Texas and so for us.

Speaker Change: Of course, we were the original innovator of 765 back in 1960 and have been building that and that perfecting it for

Speaker Change: for many years and in fact really the only company in the country that has the capabilities to do this and so we're incredibly well positioned in Texas for this. We're excited about this first project and

William Fehrman: And so we're incredibly well positioned in Texas for this. We're excited about this first project and firmly believe that it'll open up additional ones going forward. For this one, we think it's in the $1 to $2 billion range, and the work on this project will begin in the very near future, and of course, it'll take some time to deploy. But overall, the fact that we are the leader in this country for 765 and the fact that Texas is looking at a significant increase in that type of transmission bodes well for AEP.

Speaker Change: Firmly believe that it'll open up additional ones going forward.

Speaker Change: For this one, we think it's in the one to two billion dollar range and the work on this project will begin.

Speaker Change: in the very near future, and of course it will take some time to deploy, but...

Speaker Change: Overall, the fact that we are the leader in this country for 765 and the fact that Texas is looking at a significant increase in that type of transmission both well for AEP.

Carly Davenport: Thank you so much for the color.

Thank you for watching!

Carly Davenport: Yes, thank you. Thanks, Carly.

Thank you so much for the color.

Andrew Weisel: Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Weisel with Scotiabank. Please go ahead. Hey, good morning, everyone. Appreciate all the detail on the call here. I've just got one follow-up on the FFO to debt. I might have misheard some of what you said in the commentary, but based on the slides, it looks like it was 13.2% on a TTM basis through March. That's down from 14% last year. Can you just talk a little bit about the moving pieces? And then, of course, as you mentioned, the minority interest sale will add 40 to 60 basis points later this year.

Thank you.

Yes, thank you. Thanks, Carly.

Speaker Change: Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Weisel with Scotia Bank. Please go ahead.

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Andrew Wiesel: Hey, good morning everyone. I appreciate all the detail on the call here. I've just got one follow up on the FFO to debt.

Speaker Change: I might have misheard some of what you said in the commentary, but based on the slide, it looks like it was 13.2% on a TTM basis through March that's down from 14% last year. Can you just talk a little bit about the moving pieces?

Speaker Change: And then, of course, as you mentioned, the minority interest sell will add 40 to 60 basis points later this year. That won't quite get you to 14 percent.

Andrew Weisel: That won't quite get you to 14%.

Trevor Mihalik: Can you talk about what will get you over the hurdle so you've got the 100 basis point cushion over the 13% downgrade threshold, please? Thank you. Yeah, thanks, Andrew. So we ended last year at 14% FFO to debt, but that was also prior to the change in methodology with regards to the deferred fuel. And that took about 40 to 50 basis points off of that 14% FFO to debt. Now, I will say that the deferred fuel, as we're collecting the deferred fuel balances, we're really not putting that or the new methodology does not put that into the numerator.

Speaker Change: Can you talk about what will get you over the hurdle, so you've got the 100 basis point cushion over this 13% downgrade threshold, please? Thank you. Yeah, thanks, Andrew.

Speaker Change: So we ended last year at 14% FFO to death, but that was also prior to the change in methodology with regards to the deferred fuel

Speaker Change: And that took about 40 to 50 basis points off of that 14% FFO to debt.

Speaker Change: I will say that the deferred fuel, as we're collecting the deferred fuel balances, we're really not putting that or the new methodology does not put that into the numerator. That rolls off and will be largely done by the end of 2026.

Trevor Mihalik: That rolls off and will be largely done by the end of 2026. That Bill and I really feel we want to be in so that we can have a level of cushion well above our 13% downgrade threshold. So hopefully that gives you a little bit of color. Yep, that's very helpful. Okay, great.

Speaker Change: So that's where we really were with with regards to the deferred fuel and the end of the year. So the 14% was

Speaker Change: under the old methodology, and call it 13.5, 13.6 under the new methodology.

Speaker Change: and then we're at 13.2, you're right, with the trailing 12 months. [inaudible]

Speaker Change: But what we're anticipating is the minority interest transaction will raise that by 40 to 60 bits, so that'll take us to 13.6 to 13.8% once we close that transaction and then just continued focus on execution around efficient operations and increasing the numerator will be a big part of how we're going to ultimately get into that 14 to 15% targeted range.

Thank you.

Trevor Mihalik: And then one just to clarify, of the recent regulatory wins, were they all included in the CapEx plan already? Specifically, I'm talking about the $1.1 billion of transmission from Transource Energy and the $600 million through AEP Transcos, as well as the Texas Resilience Plans. Yeah, look, I would say from our perspective within the plan, we laid out what we thought was a very good plan at the beginning of the year, I came in as the new CFO, certainly pressed on what the planning assumptions were, and we're still very committed to our 575 to 595. And, you know, there's going to always be some puts and takes.

Speaker Change: Yep, that's very helpful. Okay, great. But then one just to clarify, of the recent regulatory wins, were they all included in the CAPX plan already? Specifically, I'm talking about the 1.1 billion of transmission from transfer synergy and the 600 million through AEP transcos, as well as the Texas resilience plans.

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Speaker Change: Yeah, look, I would say from our perspective within the plan, we laid out what we thought was a very good plan at the beginning of the year. I came in as the new CFO certainly pressed on what the planning assumptions were and we're still very committed.

Speaker Change: to our 575-595. And there's going to always be some puts and takes, but at the end of the day we feel very good about where we are on the 575-595 and the overall 6-8% long-term growth rate.

Trevor Mihalik: But at the end of the day, we feel very good about where we are on the 575 to 595. And the overall six to 8% long term growth rate. Okay, I guess.

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Trevor Mihalik: My question was, were those projects included in the $54 billion five-year plan? Yeah. And again, I would say there's, yes, there are some projects that are included. There are some projects that fall away. So there's always puts and takes, but generally, yes. Okay, got it. But you're saying there's flexibility for projects over time. Understood. Okay, thank you so much. Absolutely.

Okay, I guess...

Speaker Change: My question was were those projects included in the $54 billion five-year plan?

Speaker Change: Yeah, and again I would say there's yes, there are some projects that are included, there are some projects that fall away, so there's always puts and takes, but generally yes.

Speaker Change: Okay, got it, but you're saying there's flexibility for projects over time, understood? Okay, thank you so much. Absolutely, yep, thanks.

Trevor Mihalik: Yep. Thanks.

Operator: And that will conclude our question and answer session.

William Fehrman: I will now hand the call back over to Bill Fuhrman for closing remarks. Yeah, thank you. We appreciate everyone joining us on today's call.

Speaker Change: And that will conclude our question and answer session. I will now hand the call back over to Bill Ferman for closing remarks.

Bill Fehrman: Thank you. We appreciate everyone joining us on today's call. I'd like to close with just a few summary remarks first. I'm very excited when I think about the opportunities ahead at AEP as we advance.

William Fehrman: I'd like to close with just a few summary remarks. First, I'm very excited when I think about the opportunities ahead at AEP as we advance the long term strategy to drive growth, enhance the customer experience and achieve positive regulatory outcomes. We're putting our robust capital plan to work and continue to grow the business across our large footprint while delivering shareholder value. I'd also like to reinforce the incredible support we've had from our board to keep pushing forward with our plan to really strengthen the balance sheet, improve our regulatory outcomes and execute around what our states want.

Bill Fehrman: The long-term strategy to drive growth and enhance the customer experience and achieve positive regulatory outcomes.

Bill Fehrman: We're putting our robust capital plan to work and continue to grow the business across our…

large footprint while delivering shareholder value.

Bill Fehrman: I'd also like to reinforce the incredible support we've had from our board.

Bill Fehrman: to keep pushing forward with our plan to really strengthen the balance sheet to improve our regulatory outcomes and execute around what our states want. And I couldn't be more excited to be with this team and see where we're taking the company. So.

William Fehrman: And I couldn't be more excited to be with this team and see where we're taking the company.

William Fehrman: So if there's any follow up items, please reach out to our IR team with your questions.

Bill Fehrman: If there's any follow-up items, please reach out to our IR team with your questions. This now concludes our call. Thank you.

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