Q1 2025 Primo Brands Corp Earnings Call
This conference call contains forward looking statements regarding the company's future financial results and operational trends estimated synergies impacts from economic factors. Our recent refinancing efforts and other matters. These statements should be considered in connection with cautionary statements and disclaimers contained in the safe Harbor statements in this mornings.
Earnings press release, and the company's quarterly report on Form 10-Q, and other filings with the SEC.
The company's actual performance could differ materially from these statements and the company undertakes no duty to update these forward looking statements, except as expressly required by applicable law.
A reconciliation of any non-GAAP financial measures discussed during the call with the most comparable measures in accordance with GAAP. When the data is capable of being estimated is included in the company's first quarter earnings announcement released earlier this morning and in the Investor Relations section of the company's website at IR Dot Primo brand.
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In addition to slides accompanying today's webcast to assist you throughout our discussion. We have included a copy of the presentation and our supplemental earnings deck on our website.
Robert Rebroke: I am accompanied by Robert Rebroke, Primo brands, Chief Executive Officer, and David <unk>, Chief Financial Officer.
Robert Rebroke: To start their prepared remarks, Robert and David will discuss the first quarter performance of Primo brands as well as the outlook for the full year 2025.
Robert Rebroke: With that I will now turn the call over to Rob.
Rob: Thank you John and good morning, everyone. We.
Rob: We are pleased to report strong performance in the first quarter, highlighting consistent strength across our business and organization.
Rob: During this period, we achieved balanced growth throughout our portfolio, primarily driven by increased volume.
Rob: Our business is resilient and our growth underscores the expansion of the bottled water category and our success in capturing a greater share of the market, while maintaining customer value.
Rob: Our results are a testament to the strength of our team and our unwavering dedication to providing exceptional customer service as we progressed through the early stages of our integration process.
Rob: Together, we remain committed to our mission.
Rob: To hydrate healthy America.
Rob: I will briefly touch on the high level financial results on a comparable basis, which as a reminder compares the combined results of both legacy companies and the prior period against the results of Primo brands in the current periods.
Rob: David will get into more detailed aspects of the results for the quarter in his remarks.
Rob: In the first quarter of 2025, we achieved comparable net sales of 161 billion, reflecting a 3% increase.
This growth was driven by 2.8% volume increase in price or mix growth of 0.2%.
Rob: Highlighting the sustained demand for our beverage solutions and the resilience of both our consumer base and the category.
Rob: Organic growth contributed two 6% while inorganic growth added 0.4%.
Rob: Importantly, we delivered sales growth across all core water solution offerings and channels, including direct delivery grocery club mass and away from home.
Rob: When taking into account the leap day impact in Q1 2020 for normalized comparable net sales growth was four points 2%.
Rob: We achieved meaningful margin rate expansion by capitalizing on synergies driving cost optimization and enhancing organic operational efficiencies.
Rob: All while maintaining our consumer value equation.
Rob: Underscoring the strength and resiliency of our business model.
Rob: Comparable adjusted EBITDA for the quarter rose to $342 million, a 12.1% increase compared to the prior year growing at four times the rate of comparable net sales growth.
Rob: This resulted in a comparable adjusted EBITDA margin of 21, 2% a significant improvement of 170 basis points over the prior year's margin of 19, 5%.
Rob: Our performance reflects multiple positive factors driving our results.
Rob: Consumer demand remains resilience reinforcing confidence in our offerings.
Rob: Our beverage portfolio is well diversified across various price points formats and channels, including retail residential commercial and away from home.
Rob: Notably the price of our water solutions is increasing at a slower rate than municipal tap water costs in many parts of the country.
Rob: We continue to benefit from positive consumer trends, such as heightened focus on healthier lifestyle choices, which align with the health and wellness attributes of our products.
Rob: Increasing concerns over water contaminants tap water continues to drive demand for high quality water solutions.
Rob: In the first quarter. This year numerous communities were affected by boil alerts weather events and municipal water disruptions.
Rob: Writing vulnerabilities municipal water systems.
Rob: As a result consumers are becoming more mindful of the need for emergency drinking water supplies as well as a shift to bottled water products that <unk> offers.
Rob: And we remain strategically focused on U S based manufacturing and distribution that provides us with a competitive advantage over competitors more impacted by tariffs.
Rob: Our first quarter results are a testament to the dedication and hard work of our associates as well as our unwavering commitment to our customers and the execution of our must win priorities, which were expanded and strengthened through the merger.
Rob: I would like to highlight a couple of examples of these critical priorities to premium brands.
Rob: The first must win priority as brand leadership aimed.
Rob: Aimed at positioning our brands as a top choice for consumers by setting the benchmark for quality innovation and customer experience in the market.
Rob: We are focused on expanding our leadership in the bottled water segment and grow functional flavored still and sparkling premium branded water across different packaging formats and growth channels.
Rob: In the first quarter, our brands took center stage with our premium brands, continuing rapid growth and increased exposure.
Rob: Saratoga one of our premium water brands was chosen as the official water of the Golden Globes, receiving prominent primetime exposure that reached millions of viewers.
Rob: Saratoga also achieved viral success, when a social media influencer organically integrated the brand into his daily routine.
Rob: This post generated over 1 billion views with subsequent engagements prominently spotlighting the Saratoga brand.
Rob: Another equally exciting instance involves mountain valley water, which received organic endorsements from professional athletes.
Rob: These instances underscore the strength of our brands and loyal following and positive sentiment achieved entirely through unaided authentic moments.
Rob: Earlier this quarter Primo brands regional spring water and national purified water brands were announced as the official water of major League baseball.
Speaker Change: With 360 degree campaign, America's leading water brands, including Bone Springs direct.
Speaker Change: Park, Zarqa ice mountain Arrowhead, and pure life will fuel baseball fandom with exclusive content local activations and community give back moments from opening day to the World series.
Speaker Change: Our commitment to brand leadership.
Speaker Change: Teams to drive the expansion of our portfolio's reach across consumer occasions.
Speaker Change: Sure Canada data shows retail household penetration increased 110 basis points year over year in Q1.
Speaker Change: These gains reflect the success of our strategic focus on enhancing accessibility and consumer engagement across our offerings.
Speaker Change: The second most with priority is net organic growth focused on expanding our customer and consumer base across in store in home and Omnichannel platforms.
Speaker Change: This objective is driven by innovative offerings that enabled consumers to hydrate anytime anywhere and in any way they choose.
Speaker Change: According to syndicated data Primo brand solidified its position as the largest branded player to grow it's bottled water category dollar share achieving a 30 basis point increase.
Speaker Change: With quarter, one U S retail bottled water category growth of 2%, including 3% volume we.
Speaker Change: We succeeded in growing our business organically.
Speaker Change: These results underscore the strength of our branded portfolio and reflect the sustained value we offer to consumer with the trend shifting away from sugary sweetened beverages towards high quality drinking water.
Speaker Change: We successfully introduced the new six count Pvt versions of our premium Mountain Valley, and Saratoga spring waters into the mass channel.
Speaker Change: We believe this incremental distribution will enhance visibility increased shelf presence and drive sales growth as more consumers experienced the value of a premium offering at an accessible price points.
Speaker Change: We remain confident that our diversified offerings iconic brands and commitments with promoting healthy hydration will continue to drive consumer favorability in the current environment.
Speaker Change: Simultaneously, we remain focused on expanding and retaining our direct delivery exchange and refill customer base as well as increasing the number of locations we serve.
Speaker Change: This reflects our focus on optimizing weekend deliveries adhering to delivery frequency and accelerating product response times.
Speaker Change: We are also broadening our exchange offering within mass and DIY channels to include regional spring water brands, creating incremental revenue opportunities, while complementing our existing purified water offerings.
Speaker Change: The third must win priority is to deliver a superior customer service experience aimed at delighting, our customers by providing consistent seamless experiences across every product service and support touch points, leaving a lasting positive impact.
Speaker Change: We continuously monitor our performance for key metrics, such as net promoter score Trust pilot, Google ratings, and App ratings, which provide valuable insights that enable us to make timely improvements.
Speaker Change: Our digital presence continues to evolve with integrated updates across our websites and mobile apps, yielding more prospect sessions and an increase in active recurring users.
Speaker Change: Additionally, we have expanded our direct delivery service to include a broader brand portfolio for customers to enjoy.
Speaker Change: Customers from across our home and office delivery network can now choose from five gallon or case spec spring water options from our established spring and purified five gallon primo water offerings.
Speaker Change: The fourth most with priorities operational excellence focused on consistently delivering value to our customers and enhancing performance through efficiency improvements strategic sourcing and better returns on invested capital.
Speaker Change: Our teams have made significant advancements and demand forecasting tools methodologies and outcomes driving improved efficiencies and lowering costs by units.
Speaker Change: By leveraging machine learning and analytics, we continue to refine demand forecasting production planning network optimization and route design, all while enhancing the overall customer experience.
Speaker Change: After the quarter ended our Hopkins, Texas facility experienced damage from a tornado.
Speaker Change: Which caused the disruption to our supply chain I am proud of the way that the organization rose to the challenge and while we've had some disruption to supply we were back up and running in a few days and will be 100% operational by late June.
Speaker Change: Fortunately no injuries occurred during this event a testament to our team's prioritization of safety and resilience.
Speaker Change: The fifth must win priority is to be the first choice for stakeholders, where we earned our position as a first choice organization for our associates communities retailers vendors and investors.
Speaker Change: This call is driven by our focus on delivering exceptional associate experiences fostering sustainability engaging meaningfully with communities and nurturing strong impactful stakeholder partnerships.
Speaker Change: We value our partnerships with leading retailers and grocery chains across North America, which provide opportunities for joint business planning to strengthen our presence grow market share and increase household penetration and volume.
Speaker Change: Recent top level meetings and modular resets have yielded significant wins.
Speaker Change: Our retail partners have also recognized our dedication to partnership with Walmart nominating Primo brands as a finalist for the 2020 for supplier of the year Award for our dispenser and exchange offerings.
Speaker Change: By fostering a sustaining these relationships we position ourselves for long term success.
Speaker Change: Simply said, if our retail partners when we win.
Speaker Change: Our robust business model uniquely integrates our associates assets and resources, enabling us to deliver outcomes that benefit all our stakeholders, including associates suppliers customers and both current and prospective stockholders.
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Speaker Change: The premium brands, we are dedicated to making healthy hydration more sustainable responsible and accessible for everyone everywhere.
Speaker Change: This commitment is driven by four key pillars that guide, how our business interacts with nature and people.
Speaker Change: Water stewardship circular packaging supporting people and communities and greenhouse gas reduction.
Speaker Change: We will share more detail when we release our inaugural 2020 for sustainability report later this month.
Speaker Change: Earlier this month, we partnered with the Ocean cleanup to support cleanup efforts in Los Angeles County, and beyond while.
Speaker Change: We're also completing a project with the Cucamonga Valley water district to remove contaminants from the groundwater.
Speaker Change: Restoring water quality and increasing local water supply for long term sustainability.
Speaker Change: We take immense pride in making a positive impact in the communities, we serve and respond to the la wildfires. Our team work directly with the California office of emergency services to supply more than 22000 cases of water to high grade those effective.
Speaker Change: We believe all aspects of our business are aligning for flawless integration execution, where we build the foundation for long term growth by unifying the people processes policies and platforms to maximize timely cost synergy capture as well as to capture revenue.
Speaker Change: Energies.
Speaker Change: We believe the successful execution and delivery of these key initiatives will position us to achieve our 2025 financial guidance, which includes capturing $200 million in cost synergies opportunity as we ramp up through the balance of the year.
Speaker Change: We have already begun the initial stages of the synergy capture in the first quarter, we focused on reducing redundant corporate head count and driving efficiencies in the business and optimizing our G&A structure.
Speaker Change: At the end of the first quarter, we executed the closure of eight facilities and continue the process of streamlining our workforce.
Speaker Change: Total cost synergy opportunities are still projected to reach $300 million by the end of 2026. As a reminder, this is a $100 million higher than one year sooner than the estimate provided at the time of the deal announcements with $200 million in 2025 and an incremental.
Speaker Change: $100 million in 2026.
Speaker Change: From an overall perspective, we expect 2025 net sales to ramp through the year as new distribution and resets are implemented as well as benefiting from the immediate implementation of product availability across the Companys branch network.
Speaker Change: Cost management, and maximizing synergies will remain priorities as we work through the year and optimization.
Speaker Change: Our production and distribution network are key to our longer term success.
Speaker Change: In recent weeks tariffs have been a prominent topic in the headlines our exposure to potential tariffs is minimal.
Speaker Change: Primarily concentrated in our dispenser business, which accounts for approximately 1% of our overall net sales.
Speaker Change: As a primarily U S based vertically integrated business.
We are advantaged by our coast to coast manufacturing network, which seamlessly connects our people customers and consumers further reinforcing our resilience and adaptability in this rapidly evolving landscape.
Speaker Change: Before I hand, the call over to David I want to express my gratitude to all our Primo brands associates for their contributions to our business performance.
Speaker Change: Their dedication and bodies the performance oriented culture, we are fostering which is centered on exceptional customer service a relentless focus on distribution and a commitment to operational excellence and cost control.
Speaker Change: With that I will now turn the call over to David. Thanks, Robert were excited to complete our first full quarter as premium brands and I would like to thank our associates for their efforts and relentless drive to focus on cost control and synergy capture as we lay the foundation for current and future success.
Speaker Change: Today, we will discuss the first quarter results for 2025 comment on the progress of our integration and the macro events impacting the company, while reaffirming our guidance.
Speaker Change: As you May recall that we tried and brands as the accounting acquirer of record for the merged company. The GAAP financial comparisons in this morning's press release reflect the 2025 results of the new premium brands versus 'twenty 'twenty four results of the base legacy Blue trading only.
Speaker Change: This is a typical GAAP reporting outcome of a merger transaction, which can lead to growth metrics that are not comparable.
Speaker Change: To assist with more apples to apples comparisons we will be primarily discussing two sets of results. The first being our comparable results, which incorporates a combination of both legacy organizations, while adjusting for the exited eastern Canadian operations for both years 2020.
Speaker Change: In 2025.
Speaker Change: Additionally, we will refer to normalized comparable results, which will account for the extra day in 2024 from the leap year.
Speaker Change: For your convenience we have included a number of reconciliations to the GAAP metrics in the appendix section of the supplemental earnings deck located on our website at IR Dot Primo brand Dot com.
Speaker Change: Turning to our first quarter results for premium brands comparable net sales increased 3% to 1610 or $1 billion.
Speaker Change: And comparable adjusted EBITDA increased 12, 1% to 341 5 million with comparable adjusted EBITDA margins of 21, 2%.
Speaker Change: Within the comparable 3% net sales growth approximately two six or approximately $45 million came from organic growth activity with the balance 0.4% or approximately $6 8 million coming from in the organic or acquired.
Speaker Change: As a reminder, Primo brand definition of inorganic contribution include any acquired businesses that were closed less than 12 months ago.
Speaker Change: After 12 months and the acquired business becomes part of our normal contribution basis.
Speaker Change: Separately the comparable net sales increased for the quarter was driven by a two 8% increase in volume and a 0.2% increase in price or mix.
Speaker Change: As a reminder, our volume for premium brands as defined as case goods equivalents, which are measured as 12 liters.
Speaker Change: The strength of the quarter was driven by strong performance across all core water categories, when taking into account the leap day impact by removing the extra selling day from 2024 results are normalized comparable net sales growth would have increased from 3.0% to four 2%.
Speaker Change: Without getting into the granular detail of the extra selling day it can be approximately.
Speaker Change: We assumed that the ratio between volume and price or mix would hold for the four 2% normalized comparable growth rate, making the volume contribution in the quarter more impressive.
Speaker Change: Volume improvements and a series of wins across brand offerings increased points of distribution channels of trade and product mix. We believe we remain a strong beneficiary of current health and wellness trends and our product price point diversity continues to deliver strong volume.
Speaker Change: We saw improved growth in our mass channel as well as our emerging other channel that showcase growth in various natural foods retailers with our premium brands that continue to thrive.
Speaker Change: While not disclosed our refill and exchange businesses continued with their high single digit growth to complement our direct delivery business and we continued to deliver impressive growth results within our premium water category with 49% net sales growth primarily from volume based increases.
Speaker Change: Digging a bit further into our synergy capture in the first quarter approximately $20 million of our adjusted EBITDA results can be attributed to cost reductions or efficiencies gain as a result of the merger.
Speaker Change: This is a great start and helping deliver our estimated total $200 million in year synergy opportunity in 2025.
Speaker Change: Our estimated cost synergy opportunity will continue to build as we move through 2025.
Speaker Change: In the first quarter the savings were attributed to actions across SG&A reductions.
Speaker Change: Savings and production were infield branch operation consolidations.
Speaker Change: As we progressed, both our SG&A and operations buckets will increase significantly as well as our procurement initiatives, we remain committed to driving an efficient cost structure, both at the corporate or shared service team level as well as large cost drivers that we plan to streamline in our field based.
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Speaker Change: Now, let's shift to our balance sheet and cash flows at the end of the first quarter that capital growth of deferred financing costs and discounts totaled approximately $5 2 billion.
Speaker Change: The credit agreement amended in February as part of a series of debt transaction includes a $750 million revolving credit facility. This facility remains undrawn at the end of the first quarter, providing us with approximately $611 million of available liquidity.
Speaker Change: After accounting for standby letters of credit totaling approximately $139 million.
Speaker Change: Our liquidity remains strong with approximately $449 million of unrestricted cash on the balance sheet $453 million when considering cash that is restricted or within our discontinued operations when combined with $611 million of availability under our revolver.
Speaker Change: The credit facility as mentioned earlier this brings our total liquidity to approximately $1 1 billion.
Speaker Change: Additional opportunistic liquidity was generated by the sale of our eastern Canadian property.
Speaker Change: Selling approximately $46 million that is reflected in our Q1 cash balance and the recent completion of the sale of our UK business, which closed in April for approximately $9 million.
Speaker Change: With the sale of the UK business, Israel remain as the last legacy Primo water international assets to be divested Israel divestiture remains under regulatory review by the competition authority and we expect to complete the sale. Shortly following the completion of that regulatory review.
Speaker Change: These are expected to further strengthen our overall cash and liquidity position.
Speaker Change: Moving to cash generated from the business in the first quarter Primo brands generated $38 $8 million of cash flow from operations, when accounting for significant items, including but not limited to our integration and merger activities. Our cash flow from operations would have totaled $121 4 million.
Speaker Change: Additionally, we invested $66 7 million in capital expenditures.
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Speaker Change: This resulted in adjusted free cash flow.
Speaker Change: $54 7 million when compared to the prior year on a combined basis. This resulted in adjusted free cash flow growth of $49 million.
Speaker Change: A key metric that we track closely as our conversion of adjusted free cash flow to adjusted EBITDA on a trailing 12 month basis, our adjusted free cash flow totaled $694 8 million, yielding a conversion ratio of 50%.
Speaker Change: We are reaffirming our net sales guidance of between 3% to 5% growth on a comparable basis clearly there is uncertainty in the economy and consumer spending activities. In addition to the ongoing ambiguity and volatility of the global tariff environment.
Speaker Change: We believe as a domestic provider of high quality water solutions, we can serve our retail partners and consumers with great value and opportunity to support their health and wellness journeys.
Speaker Change: Each quarter will be a bit unique as we navigate our integration activities and we continue to see 2025 building into the 3% to 5% comparable net sales guidance largely balanced between volume and price or mix.
Speaker Change: While many companies in today's environment are stepping back to review and adjust their cost structures and drive efficiencies.
Speaker Change: Premium brands remain in a strong position to quickly extract and leverage the benefits of our merger.
Speaker Change: We began to immediately deploy our integration playbook at the time of our merger to remove duplicative costs and seek a leaner cost structure.
Speaker Change: This also allows us to review all aspects of the businesses. We are combining without a lot of risks to our offerings as we are largely driving efficiency and streamlining into a single company operating structure.
Speaker Change: We will continue to prioritize executing our cost synergy capture in 2025 to drive our profitability and leverage a single production and operations footprint.
Speaker Change: Separately, the tariff environment remaining escalated compared to prior periods, our dispenser business remains the primary area of the business impacted by the current tariff environment. This part of our business represents approximately 1% of our annual net sales guidance where.
Speaker Change: We are exploring opportunities with our retail partners to invest in promotional activity to continue our product leadership.
Speaker Change: And ensure it leads to continued water consumption across our large format retail offerings like exchange and refill.
Speaker Change: These promotional activities are intended to help alleviate any installs in our supply chain or weeks of on hand inventory with our retail partners.
Speaker Change: We are actively working with our retail and online partners to effectively navigate the ongoing environment.
Speaker Change: As a reminder, the dispenser business is negligible impact on our adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow.
Speaker Change: As mentioned previously we remain on track to achieve our in year in total synergy capsule. We continue to anticipate our full year 2025, adjusted EBITDA range to be between one six and $1 62, 8 billion with an implied adjusted EBITDA margin of approximately 23, 1% at the midpoint.
Speaker Change: Our adjusted EBITDA guidance includes the capture of $200 million and cost synergy opportunity in 2025 as previously mentioned the first quarter's synergy capture represented a strong start to our in year estimated opportunity.
Speaker Change: Moving on to capital expenditures, we are maintaining a forecasted run rate growth and maintenance capex budget of approximately 4% of comparable net sales.
Speaker Change: Plus integration related capex of approximately $200 million in 2025 and $50 million in 2026.
Speaker Change: The significant integration and volume shifts of the business into a single network and operating system requires some spend in key categories.
Speaker Change: These include onetime integration capex within our key to assist the transition of Primo water ERP into the legacy charging systems water production and capacity expansion additional large format blow molding equipment as well as other fleet and cooler asset standardization.
Speaker Change: We believe this will allow future year growth to efficiently move through our vertically integrated and scaled production and distribution system our base Capex.
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Speaker Change: Additionally, our integration Capex was a minimum of $2 8 million in the first quarter, we expect our integration related capex to ramp sequentially.
Speaker Change: Related to the Hawkins tornado Robert mentioned earlier, we will have an insurance claim that will fully cover the repair costs. So the facility less the standard policy deductible.
Speaker Change: We will also have access to business interruption reimbursements that will have more details on the second quarter progresses, and we will discuss in future quarters as relevant the.
Speaker Change: The impact of the tornado will be felt across April may and a portion of June in the southern region at various production lines are brought back into service as the structural areas of the facility are stabilized and repair this notably impacts our ozark of brands.
Speaker Change: We expect the capital expenditure costs could approach approximately $50 million at the damage to the building structure was significant but thankfully very limited impact to the actual production equipment.
Speaker Change: While there might be some slight timing mismatch of capital outflow to fund repairs versus inbound insurance reimbursements, we will track and provides clarity across 25 in 2026 for these expenses.
Speaker Change: Combining these factors with the poor health and cash generation capacity of our business model, we maintained our guidance for the adjusted free cash flow of between $790 million and $810 million for 2025.
Speaker Change: This forecast assumes adding back acquisition and integration costs in year integration only capex and now repairs for Hawkins impacted by the tornado as well as the benefit of after tax in your synergy capture.
Speaker Change: Last week, our board of directors authorized another quarterly dividend of <unk> 10 per share of class a common stock, which represents an 11% increase over last year's quarterly dividend rate at Primo water and.
Speaker Change: In March our largest shareholder one rock capital completed a secondary offering of Primo brand shares interest levels and the offering were extremely high subscriber the board and management recognize an opportunity to utilize our cash balance to repurchase 4 million shares in connection with the offering for approximately 100.
Speaker Change: Third $14 million.
Speaker Change: Future share repurchases remain at the discretion of the company on an opportunistic basis.
Speaker Change: In summary, we believe our strong cash flow available liquidity, improving that situation and positive growth outlook are setting a framer brands for future success. Our focus in 2025 is about network optimization cost consolidation unlocking free cash flow and adjusted EBITDA with that I will turn the call back over.
Speaker Change: To Robert for any final thoughts thanks, David.
Speaker Change: Looking ahead, we're focused on driving topline growth across our portfolio.
Speaker Change: Primo brands is focusing on several key growth areas.
Speaker Change: First is a leading branded beverage company with owned or leased water sources and a U S focused customer base premium brands is capitalizing on the growing demand for healthy hydration options.
Speaker Change: Second we are striving to enhance brand leadership through meaningful innovation activation and partnerships that continue to drive household penetration growth.
Speaker Change: Third.
Speaker Change: Our expanding services, including direct delivery exchange programs and refill stations are redefining convenience for our customers.
Speaker Change: Fourth by improving operational efficiency asset utilization scale $24, seven manufacturing channel expansion and customer service Primo brands aims to drive growth and create value.
Speaker Change: Lastly, premium brands is leveraging its extensive distribution network to expand into high growth in underpenetrated channels, such as lodging casinos restaurants schools hospitals and convenient source.
Speaker Change: Looking ahead, I'm optimistic and confident in our ability to deliver value for stockholders and remain excited about the future of Primo brands Corporation.
Speaker Change: Our strong foundation and dedicated team position us well to continue delivering strong results and driving innovation and distribution across our portfolio.
Speaker Change: We remain focused on enhancing customer experiences optimizing our network controlling costs and leveraging our strength to achieve sustained growth with that I will turn the call back to John to take us through Q&A.
John: Thanks, Robert to ensure we can address as many of your questions as possible. Please limit your inquiries to one question and one follow up if you have additional questions feel free to rejoin the queue and we will answer as many as time permits operator. Please open the line for questions.
Speaker Change: Thank you ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session should you have a question. Please press star followed by one on your Touchtone phone, you'll hear pump that you had has been raised if you would like to remove your plan from the point process. Please press star followed by.
John: Two.
John: If youre using a speakerphone please lift the handset before pressing any keys.
John: One moment for your first question.
Speaker Change: Your first question comes from Jon Andersen with William Blair. Please go ahead.
Jon Andersen: Good morning, everybody. Thanks for the question.
Jon Andersen: I'd like to start by asking about the performance of your premium brands.
Jon Andersen: Saratoga and Mountain Valley.
Jon Andersen: Also if you could provide a little bit more color around the strong growth in the quarter. I think you mentioned nearly 50% growth and your plans for those brands going forward and performance expectations. Thanks.
Jon Andersen: Okay.
John: Yes, Thanks John.
Jon Andersen: I am very pleased with the performance of.
Jon Andersen: Mountain Valley, and Saratoga and Youre right.
Jon Andersen: Quarter delivered 49% sales growth for those two brands.
Jon Andersen: And that was primarily driven by volume based increases.
Jon Andersen: Well Mountain Valley grew just under 42% 41, 8% in the quarter and actually passed $50 million in Q1 net sales that obviously is a combination of wholesale pricing and direct to customer.
Jon Andersen: Soon.
Jon Andersen: In Saratoga grew 68, 6% in the past 20 million quarter, one net sales.
Jon Andersen: Both of these brands are now available for our direct delivery customers.
Jon Andersen: And we launched pega for both brands into Walmart, So Thats brand new distribution in the largest retailer in the U S with a six pack execution for both brands. So we're very excited about that new distribution and from a brand standpoint, our Saratoga had a really big quarter.
Jon Andersen: It was the.
Jon Andersen: Official water of the Golden Globe suddenly we had a strong presence at the event and around these events and we also had a viral moments with Influencer, who had over 1 billion views. So Saratoga may very well be the hottest brand in America right now.
Jon Andersen: Now.
Jon Andersen: The future Saratoga will really be all about continued gaining distribution with.
Jon Andersen: With a very strong focus on not only in retail but away from home. We really believe the brand has a role to play in our restaurants and nightclubs and other away from home channels and.
Jon Andersen: And Mountain Valley, just to recap we had added additional sprint capacity in $2023 24, we added glass bottling capacity and we expanded our.
Jon Andersen: Our inventory of glass bottles and that brand continues to go very well.
Jon Andersen: And I'm happy to say that Tonight, we are going to be present at the academy of country Music Awards in Dallas as the official water of this evening's event. So very pleased with 49% net sales growth combined.
Jon Andersen: Great quarter with Great plans ahead.
Speaker Change: That's terrific.
Jon Andersen: Zero moment.
Jon Andersen: I'm assuming.
Jon Andersen: I think it was Taylor Hall I've seen it myself several times that was not something that was sponsored that was just kind of organic.
Speaker Change: Correct, Yes, Ashley Hall is named Lisa fitness Influencer for Miami and he created at all by himself and obviously we have.
Jon Andersen: We have a good relationship with Mr Hall, but it wasn't it was completely organic.
Speaker Change: It just means that the brand is set up for success.
Speaker Change: Absolutely second question. The follow up is about just EBITDA. There's so many puts and takes as you kind of integrate.
Speaker Change: Post merger.
Speaker Change: EBITDA came in above.
Speaker Change: Consensus expectations, our expectation I'm wondering if maybe you could.
Speaker Change: Parse out.
Speaker Change: The main elements of the beat.
Speaker Change: Relative to maybe your internal plan relative to consensus expectations. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Yes.
Speaker Change: EBITDA was three.
David: Three $341 5 million up 12, 1% as we reported in margins were very strong at 21, 2% up 170 basis points per share guide. It was mostly driven through volume growth customer demand and effective cost control, but let me pass to David to give some more color.
Speaker Change: Yeah. Thanks, John for the question, so the $20 million of integration capture would've been right on plan.
David: <unk> built were March we exited the quarter with some strength there of where we were pulling costs out of the business and as we've said before so that would leave obviously the primary increase to sort of the quarter and the base business and as we've said before this is really putting two businesses together.
David: In many cities a lot of the operational infrastructure production infrastructure in some cases staring at each other and would be inefficient and a separate company format and so for US the base business to be ahead of plan is very helpful, where the efficiencies and leveraging the infrastructure was working in the independent separate companies.
David: Before we started integrating them and so that's where I would say the primary benefit in the quarter was and again, we remain very pleased with where we are on the synergy capture in the quarter and that will continue to build throughout the year, but as mentioned that $20 million really gets at a very impressive sort of annualized outcome and toward.
David: The 300 billion total captured.
David: Great. Thanks, so much good luck.
Nik Modi: Your next question comes from Nik Modi with RBC capital markets. Please go ahead.
Nik Modi: Yes, good morning, everyone excuse me.
Speaker Change: Just a quick clarification Robert in your prepared remarks, you were.
Nik Modi: Were talking about shelf resets distribution gains.
Speaker Change: Is that what I'm sorry.
Speaker Change: Hotline will accelerate as the year progresses to solve you can clarify that.
Speaker Change: And then the question I wanted to ask was just around price smoke coming obviously the top line was very strong I believe volume driven.
Speaker Change: Questions about like what's going on with <unk>.
Speaker Change:
Speaker Change: Barely up so maybe you can give some context around.
Speaker Change: What youre seeing in a competitive environment are there any noise or timing issues that caused.
Speaker Change: Next to me.
Speaker Change: Most flat.
Nick: Yes, Nick I'll start with the second part if that's okay with you. Thanks for the question.
Speaker Change: So let's talk about the price mix for a second so the.
Speaker Change: The quarter was primarily driven by volume and there was very little pricing in the quarter, because we really wanted to retain the right consumer value equation and remain competitive in this macro environment, where we know that consumers are challenged.
Speaker Change: It's actually allowed us to continue to contribute to the growth of the category. So if you look at circa.
Speaker Change: The category grew 2% in dollars scans to one and 3% in volume three four actually specifically for the first quarter.
Speaker Change: Our scans were up three 8% in dollars. So we expanded market share by 30 basis points and we were the only large branded beverage company that actually was able to grow share in the quarter. As a result of that so we feel very good about the balance of.
Speaker Change: Our mix in pricing. This first quarter also because we were able to expand our EBITDA margin with asset pricing due to cost control synergy delivery and just very disciplined spending.
Speaker Change: Now when I look at the shelf resets. So we have very broad distribution were available in about 200000 retail outlets, we have over 3 million points of distribution or <unk>.
Speaker Change: Adding over 5% incremental points of distribution in the April through August reset across the trade and I wanted to just point out a few very big ones. The big ones that we are focused on our mass and grocery.
Speaker Change: We have additional distribution on Mt.
Speaker Change: Mountain Valley in Saratoga coming through and also regional spring and pure life as the as the brands continue to grow. We are also focused on adding regional spring water to our exchange <unk> that is going to be a slow build but we are currently in testing in a number of Walmart stores, but we have added a spread right next to.
Speaker Change: To Primo water and the exchange rates and not a replacement book, but in addition.
Speaker Change: For the balance of the year.
Obviously, you know we.
Speaker Change: We have sales forecasted at 3% to 5% organic.
Speaker Change: And we continue to build a platform for sustainable.
Speaker Change: Growth, we work with retailers to make sure our in store and earn new points of distribution you have to earn that and we are running that.
Speaker Change: We want to improve our customer touch points to enable frictionless customer experience. So with regards to the mix of volume and price what I would say is that.
Speaker Change: We will have.
Speaker Change: Cortisol rule will be higher pricing.
Speaker Change: And some quarters will be higher in volume.
Speaker Change: And we will be all.
Speaker Change: We see.
Speaker Change: Looking at the balance of the year, but let me pass to David to talk a bit more price mix.
David: Thanks, Nik so at this point in the quarter.
David: Any of the pricing contributions would have just been natural independent business decisions coming into the quarter, especially if it was in the retailer environment, sometimes those conversations take longer. So you can expect some price mix contribution as we look in things like last mile.
David: Where we have direct delivery to our customer base in the commercial residential space you can see.
David: We expect some harmonization that will take place in sort of a balance of your activities. So again I think our goal for the year was a balanced approach of about 50 50 in volume versus price mix each quarter will be slightly unique.
David: We will begin in the outer portions of the year, just sort of harmonize that pricing and last mile which may contribute a little bit more in those particular quarters, while we might be and remain mindful of what happens in retail.
David: Where the consumer might continue to expect sort of a value equation.
David: Okay.
Speaker Change: Great. Thanks, I'll pass it on.
Your next question comes from Andrea Teixeira with Jpmorgan. Please go ahead.
Andrea Teixeira: Thank you good morning.
Andrea Teixeira: I was hoping if you can comment on the bridge from the softer organic growth in the quarter at 3% at the midpoint of your range at four for the year for both the retail business and the H O D. I understand there has been some shift same promotions for Palm springs at some retailers and some closed branches and routes.
Andrea Teixeira: That's part of your synergies I understand that's part of obviously delivering.
Speaker Change: The 20 million and she'll kind of for the full year. So is there any and you just Oh Beth you just spoke to that right now even revenue synergies with some of the racks I've seen myself and some other exchanges like bond spring as opposed to the Primo.
Speaker Change: And seeing that and an opportunity to solve is hoping to see if there any anomalies that you want to point out that gives you the confidence to to basically reiterated the guidance today. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Yes.
Speaker Change: Yes, good morning, Andreas Thank you for the question, yes, so the.
Speaker Change: The normalized.
Speaker Change: Organic net sales growth as we correct for leap year, which had the extra day last year is four 2% for the quarter. So that fits right in the middle of the three to five guidance and what gives me a lot of confidence to your earlier point and you called it out correctly is that.
Speaker Change: Last year Easter promotions fell in the last week of March and they were pushed into April this year and those are particularly big events for our bone spring, Brian Brendon in North East So with the correction of leap here were at four two and that doesn't even include that overlap. So that gives me a lot of confidence.
Speaker Change: With regards to.
Speaker Change: The additional revenue synergy plans, we are obviously now offering mountain valley in Saratoga on our direct to customer delivery trucks, and we are in testing in and adding regional spring water to the exchange rates in over 10, Walmart stores with obviously.
Speaker Change: <unk> plans to expand that if it's successful we believe it is successful.
So that's those are some examples of revenue synergies that will start to.
Speaker Change: Coming to the sales.
Speaker Change: The bigger part is the distribution builds that were going to see this year that is critical.
Speaker Change: Critical component of our growth plan, the additional more than 5% points of distribution across mass and grocery that we're getting.
Speaker Change: That's helpful. One of the things that obviously are right, but I mean to.
Speaker Change: I mean your guidance does not contemplate in the leap year and it's not.
Speaker Change: Not correcting to that I'm, just wanted to make sure that gets that that extra day, it's not going to come back by the end of the year.
Speaker Change: One and then another follow up is when you think about your portfolio right and and think about purified I guess.
Speaker Change: In this scenario I guess spring water can you comment on pure life you've seen.
Speaker Change: Any kind of weakness that consumers that that entry level price point.
Speaker Change: Feeling the pinch or youre seeing across the board a similar performance on the entry level I guess like hi.
Speaker Change: With Poland Spring and of course, we all saw the container to put all the premium, but I would say like more inter lateral against private label, how you feel about those.
Speaker Change: Or are you offering and private label.
Galbraith: Galbraith, our purified business did very well this quarter was up three 5% of net sales. That's a combination of obviously primo water branded primo water and pure life.
Galbraith: We are really focused on maintaining competitive pricing on pure lives to offer the consumer the right value equation.
Galbraith: That means that we are carefully monitoring competitive pricing and making sure that for the balance of the year. We will have the right amount of display and a feature promotions on this business in partnership with our.
Galbraith: Key grocers in key mass channels. So when you look at pure life. It is truly our branded proposition that will allow us to continue to grow share in.
Galbraith: In the purified segments.
Galbraith: We're also.
Galbraith: Sure life and exchange in quite a few stores and we will be evaluating the.
Speaker Change: The strength of that brand across those channels as well.
Speaker Change: We actually are very confident in the strength of our purified business and continue to see growth there.
Speaker Change: Thank you and just a clarification on the on the leap year. So your guidance is.
Speaker Change: <unk> so in other words youre not I've got an onshore since say, okay. We didn't read this far out.
Speaker Change: The three but with the with the leap year factor will be adjusted to round up to four I'm, assuming that's you know that's not the case.
Andrew: That's correct Andrew.
Speaker Change: Okay perfect. Thank you very much I'll pass it on and congrats.
Speaker Change: Okay.
Speaker Change: Your next question comes from Derek Lessard with TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
Derek Lessard: Yes, good morning, everybody.
Derek Lessard: On another strong quarter.
Speaker Change: Robert I just wanted to maybe hit you up on your prepared remarks, where you said you expected.
Speaker Change: 2025, net sales to ramp up through the year as new distribution in the resets are implemented can you just maybe add some color around that.
Speaker Change: Yes, we obviously have already discussed the impact of the shift of Easter into the second quarter. So.
Speaker Change: That was a.
Speaker Change: And overlap opportunity that benefits Q2, but took a bit of.
Speaker Change: Moment momentum away from the first quarter because of the Easter in March last year Easter in April this year.
Speaker Change: With the balance of the year it will be a combination of one <unk>.
Speaker Change: Incremental exchange distribution, we are already up for sure go and we have great plans to expand our exchange business too.
Speaker Change: Price promotions of feature and display activity on our both regional spring water.
Speaker Change: And purified business and three there will be benefits from incremental distribution.
Speaker Change: As I've said over 5% of total distribution points incremental we were three 3 million in the base and we're going to add 5% to those points of distribution and that's a combination of.
Speaker Change: Case back on purified on spring.
Speaker Change: And then six back on.
Speaker Change: Saratoga Mountain Valley.
Speaker Change: That combination.
Speaker Change: And together with the <unk>.
Speaker Change: Focus on customer acquisition in the direct to customer channel and the customer retention plans true.
Speaker Change: Improved customer service improvements and our apps and wanted us com website.
Speaker Change: And our relentless focus on customer service call Center and delivery, we built the balance of the year.
Speaker Change: Okay.
Speaker Change: I guess my follow up question to that it sounds like given that that accelerating sales growth and then I think David you mentioned that the base business is ahead of plan.
Speaker Change: I'm just curious how you square away.
Speaker Change: That with with keeping with keeping your guidance flat.
Speaker Change: Yeah, Derik so part of it is just obviously, we're sitting in a macro environment that changes by the minute.
Speaker Change: But what we also are looking at is this dispenser business under the tariff and I made prepared remarks on that we're not worried about this velocity with the consumer but we want to work with retail partners and promotional activities as a lot of other electronic or imported products are if you just walk through an app.
Speaker Change: Walmart these days.
Speaker Change: So we are looking to accelerate promotional activities with our retail partners that allow again remember we make revenue when we sell the dispenser into the channel, but we want to help our retail partners new velocity off their shelves and when that occurs that accelerates our exchange business. It has ripple effects into our refill business.
Speaker Change: And sort of ancillary halo effects into our direct delivery business and so part of that might just be a reserve to sort of really look at where we might need to lean in in certain cases to the business.
Speaker Change: And if that's the case that actually helps set us up for strong momentum as we head into 'twenty six or if obviously the tariff environment changes, which it seems to have done multiple times in the last month.
Speaker Change: Okay. Thank you that's helpful.
Daniel Moore: Your next question comes from Daniel Moore CJS Securities. Please go ahead.
Daniel Moore: Good morning, Robert morning, David Thanks for taking the questions.
Daniel Moore: Wanted to just maybe pull on the string of the cadence of revenue growth year over year.
Daniel Moore: Particularly starting with Q2 on the one hand, you have the Easter timing benefit that you called out on the other temporary disruptions at Hawkins so.
Daniel Moore: Your comments seem to imply faster growth in Q2, but just wanted to clarify that and then you know kind of cadence for the balance of the year.
Speaker Change: Yeah, Dan so.
Speaker Change: Q1 would have traditionally like Q4 been sort of our shoulder seasons. If you will with Q2 and three being a larger contribution of both standalone companies and obviously the combined business.
Speaker Change: So as we ramp into Q2 and three you should see sort of some nice growth. There again, we're sticking with annual guide here, obviously, the macro environment and our original position us.
Speaker Change: To keep that at an annual level as we work through and make sure we have timing inefficiencies on our synergy capture.
Speaker Change: And so again the business will build as you go into Q2, and three and even though Q4 from a weighting standpoint is lower than Q2, and three that's really where we would expect a lot of the harmonization of pricing and other builds on our synergy capture to take place that allows that any efficiencies in price mix.
Speaker Change: To sort of flow through the P&L very efficiently. So I think that's kind of the best sort of providing from that standpoint on cadence.
Speaker Change: That's helpful.
Speaker Change: And you know obviously, we can build that.
Speaker Change: Free cash flow and it kind of right on target with adjusted free cash flow.
Speaker Change: I'm just wondering over the next couple of quarters, where you see leverage kind of peaking out.
Speaker Change: And maybe talk to the balance or the cadence of potential acceleration or acceleration of deleveraging.
Speaker Change: As we look out over the next 2468 quarters. Thanks again sure.
Speaker Change: Certainly you know when we spoke at Investor Day, we provided some guidance, we'd like to take about a half a turn out of leverage.
Speaker Change: That contemplated.
Speaker Change: The anticipation of maybe one rock.
Speaker Change: Doing a deal, which we obviously executed in March.
Speaker Change: So again, we have ample confidence in our ability to pull about a half a turn out of the business. We spent about $114 million of cash.
Speaker Change: As you can expect our adjusted free cash flow builds throughout the year.
Speaker Change: That's really a case of in the middle two quarters being a high contribution to overall.
Speaker Change: So on a cash build in the company.
Speaker Change: And so again when we look at it Q1 was right on pace for Capex spend action.
Speaker Change: Actually Q1's, adjusted free cash flow would have been a little higher but we did the debt refinancing, which actually accelerated some interest costs.
Speaker Change: That won't occur now in Q2, and so you'll start to see that fliting sort of normalize out but again, we remain very confident in where that builds towards the $800 million in our guide midpoint for that and again expecting our capex to sort of be as planned.
Speaker Change: Very good I appreciate the color.
Andrew: Your next question comes from Andrew <unk> with BMO. Please go ahead.
Andrew: Hey, good morning, Thanks for taking the questions.
Andrew: My first one I wanted to ask you about the <unk> business or the non retail business and how you think about the durability of that business in a tighter consumer spending environment. We obviously don't get a lot of visibility in the investment community that that piece of the business. So just would be great to hear what you're seeing in that channel. If you have any color on retention or churn or anything like that.
Andrew: Super helpful.
Speaker Change: Yes, thanks, Andrew So a couple of aspects that we're really excited about his first.
Andrew: Our website efficiency as expected is improving because obviously we are not.
Andrew: Not having dollars compete necessarily for eyeballs on different sites.
Andrew: We are going through consolidation of web platforms apps and obviously as Robert mentioned, we have started our ways of branch consolidation.
Andrew: The team remains in a good spot with regard to gross additions or the attractiveness of people coming to the category.
Andrew: On a net basis from customer accounts, we remain in a good position.
Andrew: We understand obviously perception of the macro environment, we've really not seen any sort of slippage we have.
I can't remember the exact basis point, better and increased slightly in retention as the combined businesses come together. So we feel like it's in really good shape and as Robert mentioned.
Andrew: On the premium side of the business is not just growing because of retail the off route Mountain Valley distribution. There. It continues to thrive. So we look again its a very good opportunity and we're just beginning the spring brand consolidation, where legacy Primo water customers will have access to case.
Andrew: <unk> and large format bottles of more popular regional springs that would've been a part of the blue tracking system. So again, we feel that the efficiencies that the exchange density provides to that route truck as well as the customer density. That's just beginning because of the branch consolidation is really a great start to the year.
Andrew: Yeah.
Speaker Change: Okay. That's that's helpful. And then just wanted to clarify quickly.
Speaker Change: On the tornado is there any impact built into the guidance from that or because of the business disruption insurance. There is no. That's kind of just a neutral event as you think about the guidance.
Speaker Change: Yes, so from an EBITDA perspective, the business interruption will be sort of offset again timing may not be perfect. There, but we're working through with that as we are able to quantify those impacts for the insurance provider from a net sales perspective, it's really we've been able to pull product from other areas. This is a very large factory for us.
Speaker Change: So it was really more of a timing issue.
Speaker Change: Net sales of that particular product thankfully the channel was nicely filled with product and this is basically just slightly differing but thankfully a lot of that within the quarter if that makes sense.
Speaker Change: Yeah that does thank you very much.
Steve Powers: Your next question comes from Steve Powers with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
Steve Powers: Great. Thank you very much good morning.
Steve Powers: <unk> built.
Steve Powers: Building on I guess your answers to the.
Steve Powers: The first question is just preceded me.
Steve Powers: You're talking about retention rates actually kind of holding out for ticking up.
Steve Powers: The first part of the integration, which is good to hear I guess more broadly can you comment on what you've seen in in.
Steve Powers: The overall kind of a menu of service levels you track.
Steve Powers: What youre hearing in terms of if we're seeing in terms of customer satisfaction just the level of.
Steve Powers: Marketplace disruption or lack thereof from the integration would be helpful.
Speaker Change: Sure. Thanks, Steve for the question. So yes in general we have spent time as businesses looking at factors like on time in full in stock rates, our NPS scores.
Speaker Change: Our customer satisfaction, we've actually built out a pretty extensive kpis dashboard for internal discussion that over the next coming quarters like we did at legacy Primo water, we will start to reveal some of those when it best on the backside of conversion or consolidation, but in the quarter.
Speaker Change: Our last.
Speaker Change: <unk> model, which would be our direct delivery business had owed tip rates grow by several basis points, our refill uptime, which really isn't impacted by the consolidation remains its sort of its all time levels custom.
Speaker Change: Customer retention as I mentioned was up a few basis points on a year over year basis and as can be expected. When you go through consolidation we are experiencing some call volumes.
Speaker Change: Of which our call center prepares for and that's why we do these branch consolidation in waves.
Speaker Change: And we're looking to address concerns or questions about hey, why is this product available now or or or why did my date potentially changed from my original very regular schedule, but those are sort of growing pains as we will experience going through the consolidation, but please look for us to release more of those kpis in coming quarters, but from a perspective of.
Speaker Change: How we deliver how we make product all of those are trending in a positive direction as we look to consolidate production and last mile deliveries.
Speaker Change: Okay very good and then.
Speaker Change: On the on the synergy capture.
Speaker Change: The 180, or so that remains for balance of year.
Speaker Change: Can you can.
Speaker Change: Can you talk a little bit more about sort of the expected cadence in.
Speaker Change: And achieving that and sort of the.
Speaker Change: The curve relative to kind of a straight $60 million a quarter just the role I presume, it's going to ramp a bit, but just a little bit more color on that curve would be helpful. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Yeah, Yeah. So again, we exited March a little stronger within about 50% of the actual quarter's capture came in the month of March and so when you look at that $20 million.
Speaker Change: Knowing that about a third of that really contributed to a large portion or a third of the time contributed to over half of the dollars that ramps now well over $80 million on an annualized basis and so we really as we go through the next quarter and as we get slightly into Q3, we really will be at the execution of the tactic.
Speaker Change: Decisions to get the full year value, it's just now letting that annualize out and.
Speaker Change: Then as we head into 'twenty six again that for the balance of decisions will be made to sort of annualize out into 2026, it's total or excuse me the cumulative total of $300 million. So as we've said at the beginning this is a queue that was on pace is a queue that sort of provides sort of 80 plus million dollars on an annualized basis.
Speaker Change: Next quarter will be a significant contributor to helping us get towards an annualized level that helps us achieve our in year.
Speaker Change: And then it starts to have incremental decisions in the back half of the year, which again gives us both to the 200 for the total as well as the annualize out to sort of get to about 220 to 250 for that 300 value with the rest coming in calendar 'twenty six.
Speaker Change: Understood. Okay. That's very helpful. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Thank you.
Robert Rebroke: There are no further questions at this time I'd like to turn the call back over to Robert Great broke for closing remarks.
Robert Rebroke: Thank you for joining today's call and for your continued interest in Primo brands I am proud of the progress we've made in shaping the future of our company across the organization. Our team has been steadfast and delivering exceptional customer service streamlining operations identifying new opportunities.
Robert Rebroke: <unk> and unlocking synergies to drive long term success.
Robert Rebroke: As of our board leadership team and associates I sincerely. Thank you for your trust and support as we work together to achieve our goals and create value for all stakeholders.
Robert Rebroke: Okay.
Robert Rebroke: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation you may now disconnect.
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