Q1 2025 XPeng Inc Earnings Call
Hello, Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by for the first quarter of 2025 earnings conference call back spending.
At this time, all participants are in listen only mode.
After management's remarks, there will be a question and answer session.
Today's conference call is being recorded.
Mr. Aleksey: I will now turn the call over to your host Mr. Aleksey <unk> head of Investor Relations and capital markets and the company. Please go ahead Alex.
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Mr. Aleksey: Thank you Hello, everyone and welcome to excellent first quarter of 2025 earnings Conference call, our financial and operating results were issued via Newswire services earlier today and available online you can also viewed earnings press release by visiting the IR section of our website at IR at <unk> Dot com.
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Speaker Change: The Vice Chairman and President Dr. Bryan Koop.
Speaker Change: This president of corporate finance and the type of projects with a child Chung Vice President of Finance and accounting, Mr. James Hu and myself management will begin with prepared remarks, and the call will conclude with a Q&A session. A webcast replay of this conference call will be available on our website.
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Speaker Change: Please note that today's discussion will contain forward looking statements made under the safe Harbor provisions of the U S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act like a nice five forward looking statements involve inherent risks and uncertainties.
Speaker Change: As such the company's results may be materially different from views expressed today. So I think it's an issue regarding these and other risks and uncertainties.
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Speaker Change: Company does not assume any obligation to update any forward looking statements, except as required under applicable law. Please also note that ex post earnings press release and this conference call will include a discussion of.
Speaker Change: GAAP financial measures as well as audited non-GAAP financial measures excellent earnings press release contains a reconciliation of non.
Speaker Change: non-GAAP measures Tuesday August it's got some measures I would now turn the call over to our co founder Chairman and CEO go ahead.
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Speaker Change: Hello, everyone. The first quarter of 2025 March a promising sorry, Frac site as the company has successfully navigated the traditional off season in the automotive market.
Speaker Change: Q1 deliveries totaled 94008 unit, marking a 331% year it'll be our increase and establishing a new historical record quarterly delivery, we secured the top position itself among emerging E V brands, both domestically and internationally.
Speaker Change: During this quarter all vehicle gross margin has improved for seven consecutive quarters propelling the company's overall gross margin to a record high of 15, 6% in Q1, 2025 net loss narrowing significantly compared to the previous quarter free cash flow exceeded 3 billion RMB in Q1.
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Speaker Change: Many are curious about our impressive performance in Q1, I believe it stems from Max thanks to stomach.
Speaker Change: And across all the liabilities in organization product development marketing technology and operations, along with a consistent commitment to AI, driven tech innovation and steady and long term sustainable growth.
Speaker Change: Zero three introduced eight months ago has surpassed 100000 deliveries occurring its place as the best selling eight class pure electric sedan. The P. Seven plus achieved its 50000 its unit production just five months after its launch.
Speaker Change: And the 2025 E N G. Nine models delivered over 7500 units in total in their April debut.
Speaker Change: Our monthly deliveries have exceeded 30000 units for six consecutive months.
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Tony: I'm most excited by the fact that our growth potential is just starting to emerge where spearheading integrated innovations powered by AI in various fields, including AI Chelsea are doing AI assisted driving smart cabin drink chip touch it and bodies intelligent robots and enterprise productivity tools.
Tony: In Q2, we achieved significant progress in several areas reinforcing our conviction that ex banks comprehensive transformation toward AI, that's begun to achieve initial success across the full technology stack.
Tony: Some of our key AI capabilities are poised to create generational leadership within the industry in 2026, I'm confident that through the extensive application of all physical World Foundation model entering chips N vehicles, the global deployment of AI powered vehicles and related policies, along with the innovative advancement of <unk>.
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Speaker Change: That makes a premium technology accessible to all on May 20, we will launch the Mona MCU, mostly Max the full performance edition will debut during AI assisted driving it'd be 150000, RMB price sector for the first time.
Speaker Change: Innovation enables tech savvy young consumers to experience top your intelligence features once exclusive to luxury vehicles without compromise.
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Speaker Change: 250000, RMB class SUV market in Q3, well launch the new generation P. Seven eight luxury sports Coupe in the 300000 RMB segment in Q4, our Quinn hung Super Electric models will gradually begin mass production will I think be one vehicles you added your options approach like one Paul.
Speaker Change: Serious aimed to expand our reach to a wider consumer base, both domestically and internationally unlocking substantial sales growth potential.
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Jonathan: Excellent global expansion represents our second growth curve, we anticipate that our overseas business will experience rapid growth over the next few years, becoming a significant contributor to our sales and profit increases in Q1, 2025 overseas deliveries sort by more than 370700 year over year.
Jonathan: But if I was that is that China's leading expert or a mid to high and new energy vehicles. During Q1, we opened over 40, new stores abroad entering key markets such as the U K and Europe, and Indonesia Southeast Asia is a global technology company, we strive to enhance localized R&D manufacturing and <unk>.
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Speaker Change: Let me now give you an update on Xbox AI development 2025 suicides the launch of <unk> full scale implementation of the physical World Foundation model in AI powered vehicles.
Speaker Change: Further extending our generational advantage, we have developed the most comprehensive and sophisticated foods that in house R&D system with the highest potential industry, which includes the hook I pure vision Adas solution self developed high performance towards chips Ultra large scale cloud based foundation model fully localized really model.
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Speaker Change: This strengthens our strategy for advanced autonomous driving establishing formidable competitive barrier moving forward well expedite R&D efforts from L plus assisted driving to L. Three and L for autonomous driving technologies, what do you mean, our generational lead.
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Speaker Change: Is your perception models significantly with using it Joanne latency for quicker and safer assisted driving our enhanced 360 degree environmental perception performs exceptionally well in intricate urban environment, including turns you turned them in under adverse bladder conditions, such as rain snow Osaka enhancing both safety.
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Speaker Change: Our solution is ideally position the global rollout of high an autonomous driving and the shift from cars to advanced intelligent robots.
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Speaker Change: I wish the first 10000, GPU AI computing clusters in the Chinese automotive industry, maintaining and operational efficiency of over 90% throughout the year by the end of the year, our high quality training data will expand to 200 million video clips that depicts various driving scenarios across the country powered by large computing.
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Speaker Change: So we'd be on and spinal cord for X smart cockpit. We're currently developing a multi model and large model that entirely functions locally onshore and chips is advancement facility smarter voice interactions and a more personalized user experience and ensure smooth operation even in office conditions significantly.
Speaker Change: Hunting safety and global scalability. This will be China's first large model capable of fully localized a multilingual interaction envy alley features in the cockpit paving the way for a rapid improvement in the vehicles intelligence.
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Speaker Change: Our investments in AI vehicles also provide distinct advantages and humanoid robots R&D in China's robotics industry.
We are in our fourth generation robots and celebrated at the Shanghai Auto show will soon be followed by a fifth generation model powered by join chips significantly enhancing on device computing capabilities ex thanks robot models lives the past traditional industry technological approaches such as small reinforcement learning models and Portland It systems.
Speaker Change: By utilizing D. B L E architecture of all physical World Foundation model and taking advantage of our existing cloud AI infrastructure to improve robotic intelligence as a type of hobby bodies intelligence humanoid robots will represent X banks start growth of course, we aim to launch industry, leading humanoid robots for industrial and commercial applications in 'twenty two.
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Speaker Change: I'm optimistic that the road the robust growth momentum will carry on into 2025 in the second quarter, we will finalize the annual upgrades or consideration of improvement four five models with two brand new major models set to begin deliveries in the third quarter with the second quarter, we estimate total vehicle deliveries to range from <unk>.
Speaker Change: 102000, 208000 units, reflecting a year over year increase of 237.7% to 257, 5% revenue is expected to be between $17 5 billion RMB $218 7 billion RMB, representing a year over year growth of $115 seven.
Speaker Change: <unk> to 135% I believe will not only meet our goal of more than doubling sales club. This year, but will also achieve profitability in Q4 and generate substantial free cash flow for the entire year with enhanced self sustaining capabilities will drive ongoing breakthroughs in AI technology and product development.
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Speaker Change: Thank you everyone.
Speaker Change: I'll now turn the call over to our VP of finance, Mr. James who will discuss our financial performance for the first quarter of 2025.
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Speaker Change: Let me provide a brief overview of our financial results for the first quarter of 2025.
Speaker Change: I will reference RMB only in my discussion today, unless otherwise stated.
Speaker Change: Our total revenues were up 15.81 billion for the first quarter of 2025, an increase of 141, 5% year over year, and a decrease of one 8% quarter over quarter.
Speaker Change: Revenues from vehicle sales were 14.37 billion for the first quarter of 2025 and.
Speaker Change: An increase of 159, 2% year over year, and a decrease of two 1% quarter over quarter.
Speaker Change: Year over year increase was mainly attributable to higher deliveries.
Speaker Change: Revenues from services and others were 1.44 billion for the first quarter of 2025.
Speaker Change: Representing an increase of 43, 6% year over year, and an increase of 0.5% quarter over quarter.
Speaker Change: The year over year increase was mainly attributable to the increased revenues from technical R&D services related to the Volkswagen group.
Speaker Change: And maintenance services and auto financing services.
Speaker Change: Gross margin was 15, 6% for the first quarter of 2025, compared with 12, 9% for the same period of 'twenty 'twenty, four and 14, 4% for the fourth quarter of 2024.
Speaker Change: Equal margin was 10, 5% for the first quarter of 2025.
Speaker Change: Compared with five 5% for the same period of 2024 and 10% for the fourth quarter of 2024.
Speaker Change: The year over year and quarter over quarter increases were primarily attributable to the ongoing cost reduction and economies of scale driven by the increase in sales volume, partially offset by the inventory provision and losses on purchase commitment related to the upgrade of certain vehicle models.
Speaker Change: R&D expenses were 1.98 billion for the first quarter of 2025, representing an increase of 46, 7% year over year and a decrease of one 3% quarter over quarter.
Speaker Change: The year over year increase was mainly due to higher expenses related to the development of new vehicle models and technologies as the company expanded its product portfolio to support future growth.
Speaker Change: SG&A expenses were 1.95 billion for the first quarter of 2025.
Speaker Change: Presenting an increase of 40% to 42% year over year, and a decrease of 14, 5% quarter over quarter.
Speaker Change: The year over year increase was primarily attributable to the higher commissions paid to the franchise stores driven by higher sales volume.
Speaker Change: The quarter over quarter decrease was mainly due to lower marketing and advertising expenses.
Speaker Change: As a result of the foregoing loss from operations was 1.04 billion for the first quarter of 2025, compared with 1.65 billion year over year, and 1.56 billion quarter over quarter.
Speaker Change: That loss was a 0.6 6 billion for the first quarter of 2025, compared with 1.37 billion year over year, and 1.33 billion quarter over quarter.
Speaker Change: As of March 31st 2025, our company had cash and cash equivalents restricted cash and short term investments and time deposits in total of 45.28 billion.
Speaker Change: To be mindful of the length of our earnings call I would encourage listeners to refer to our earnings press release for more details on our first quarter 2025 financial results.
Speaker Change: This concludes our prepared remarks, we'll now open the call to questions.
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Speaker Change: For the benefit of all participants on today's call. If you wish to ask a question to management in Chinese. Please immediately repeat your question in English for the sake of clarity and order. Please ask one question at a time and management will respond then feel free to follow up with your next question.
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Speaker Change: Our performance in the past quarter definitely aligns with our overall strategy long term and steady development and we are doing everything we can to make good sound decisions, they're comprehensively for our future long term development them for Q2, we expect to actually have five upgraded versions of our improvement are faced with versions, which may cause some changes in the market.
Speaker Change: In the midterm or short term, but it will be very beneficial for the long term development after the country, but for the company, but I would like to actually highlight three things first of all starting from Q3, you're going to see a momentum of launching your models are even more aggressively going into 2026, and it's going to generate a more deliveries.
Speaker Change: Aspect is our AI capability and our R&D efforts being translated into AI performance on our costs and also all robots, which will allow us to maintain.
Speaker Change: A leader in the industry and really why didn't our generational difference between ourselves and our competitors are the last aspect is something that I want everyone to pay attention to is our Queensland Electric drive system, which also will go into them is going to power our future lineup. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Yeah, Tim It's Brian Let me just add to what shovel mentioned first of all the study our performance because we signed up previous Ah.
Speaker Change: Many months actually also reflects improved operation a quality for example in the first quarter usually are the low seasons for Chinese auto sales then we maintain still steady growth and also the second quarter. Despite many transitions so we need to handle four hour refreshment.
Speaker Change: So product, we still see a very stable and steady delivery numbers. So there was actually I would say representative the operation quality that we have looking forward, we actually have very strong confidence that was now.
Speaker Change: Many are new launches for example, the Mona Max AR at the end of this month and also the next couple of months with a G. Six and seven in P. Seven launches all of them. We think it won't be catalysts for further growth. So we believe that in the third quarter I will see continued.
Speaker Change: Growth in our delivery numbers and hitting historical highs again.
Speaker Change: And then the other thing I think I wanted to also a highlight as Oh. So you can look at the new models that we are introducing those all will represent our products in the higher priced categories as well as with better profit gross profit margins. So the social introduced by our I would say favorable mix toward.
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Speaker Change: For your export business could you give us the latest guidance for growth in 2025, and among all the different regions.
Speaker Change: Area do you see a higher growth.
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Speaker Change: Because of the increase of tariff for the E. B met in China last year, Oh, So right now our bodies.
Speaker Change: Our current strategy in this market. Thank you.
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Speaker Change: Hey, Manny its Brian let me address your question.
Speaker Change: Yes, Indeed, we have seen a very strong international growth and also a contribution to our results both on the top line as well as on the bottom line. It is actually an area, we actually are increasing our efforts.
Speaker Change: Investments as well as our team our focus is I would say that this year. Our continued focus will be on the European Middle East and Southeast Asia. Those three core regions and also some of the reasons. We also have launched recently for example, the U K, Indonesia as well.
Speaker Change: Thank God continue the growth.
Speaker Change: Growth, we are seeing across a number of the markets that we entered a later last year. So I would say the east actually are showing pretty balanced overall growth or reaching triple digit growth I would say in the last quarter our year over year.
Speaker Change: Going forward I think our we are continue to expand to additional markets. We're looking at Oh. So some of the other regions. So that we could he doesn't have a focused yet for example, Latin America as well as some other countries are in in the Asian region.
Speaker Change: The.
Speaker Change: The issue on the tariff I think it's something that we are very very focused on clearly, it's having an impact on the profitability of our business. For example in Europe. However, I think we are committed to build for the longer term. We are also looking at ways to reduce.
Speaker Change: The impact of these tariffs through more collaboration with our partners a change of product mix on the ground as well as potentially local investments that gave us the ability to navigate some of these tariff hits. So these are all things that we are focusing on the moment and and I think you know if there's any further.
Speaker Change: This would be definitely sharing with you as well as the community.
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Speaker Change: Thank you. This is shoveling. Thank you for the question not when it comes to inkjet. The development of it has been going really really well not only when it comes to the application on all cars, but also in upgrading our autonomous driving capability in all cockpit and across a lot of our models R&D everything's going really well we have.
Speaker Change: Already we have already begun our production in second quarter, just yet and we expect to mass produce some more models supported or with the terrain ship in the third quarter of the year now when it comes to the mass production in a wider scale. We believe that it's going to happen very very soon because with the development of our cheaper.
Speaker Change: Not only will be able to have a stronger and more competitive autonomous driving capability, but also stronger capabilities to support all of other products. When it comes to the touring chip itself. It's AI computing power right now the effect of computing power. It is we are leading the industry because it's about 327 times the chip computing power in Maine.
Speaker Change: Exercise, Yeah, I chips, which is very very competitive and is a huge step up the game. So when it comes to the touring chip and how it would help us to go into the next level of next stage of the AI world, especially the physical AI World, we are going to leverage our physical World Foundation model and also our.
Speaker Change: X sight AI well in vehicle AI model, which will be very very capable and powerful to allow us to go into higher level or more advanced level of autonomous driving we believe that in a very very near future, we will be able to really showcase our generational.
Speaker Change: In this regard I'm by that time, we're not on the top you're talking about yeah human interference with the current you know how many miles were going to enter the next stage of autonomous driving them and that's when I belief, we can really generate benefits and optimal optimized I'll use experience for our consumers because.
Speaker Change: By that time, not only will launch a new models with higher and events in autonomous driving capability, but also leveraging our smart cockpits and also localized of Yahweh capability X tank cars will definitely bring to you a completely new experience because I would check it off the company has always been democratizing high end.
Speaker Change: Technology, we will bring benefits to all of the people and hope to I hope that everyone can get access to disc ops NCR technology, one day and as soon as possible and we believe that's due to Egypt can help us do that thank you.
Speaker Change: Thank you that's all my question.
Speaker Change: Your next question comes from <unk> with <unk> Securities.
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Speaker Change: Thank you for the question no. This is definitely a question that we're going to explore where also curious about that as well because when you look at the current market. When it comes to the market segment of 150000, RMB others, No real implementation of end to end launch models or a competing for all five central tops out about so these are available.
Speaker Change: Cars are not be so called full performance models. So we are very excited about Mona and we are very curious about your penetration rate in the market I definitely have very high hopes for it because of our capability and when you look at B, a little across the industry even for cars between 150000 to 200000 currently they're there.
Speaker Change: So call full performance version available in the market. So what is the penetration rate going to be 50%, 70%, we don't know and but we are curious and we'll try our best to achieve the maximum amount. Thank you.
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Speaker Change: And also regarding the part of your question that is about L. A M zero three and the mono serious obviously M. Zero three was our first model of the whole mono series and Ah in 2026, how we can expect to see more models awesome. This serious and monetize that AR is a serious and really caters for a young People's Chi.
Speaker Change: It looks from a cool and beautiful I'll provide just emotional veldman connections with younger consumers. So we definitely can cater to that your belief that I often make next year, you'll be able to see the full potential of this theory is that it's going to be very impactful across the industry. Thank you.
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Speaker Change: And my second question is about the research and development.
Speaker Change: Investment and for 2025 to two what percent did it take off the R&D spend will be allocated to Ah yeah related areas or ER to ER, what or how much a two day increase after R&D experience.
Speaker Change: Will it be allocated to AI related trade area. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Okay.
Speaker Change: Thank you. This is James So I'll answer your question regarding the overall R&D expenses for this year. So if you look at our total R&D expenses in 2024, it's around $6 5 billion.
Speaker Change: And in 2025, we have guided around $8 5 billion of our full year R&D expense and this remains unchanged I would say the increased R&D expenses are well a good amount of that will be spend on AI related activities and that would primarily help us to improve our computational.
Speaker Change: Capability on a call basis.
Speaker Change: That will both as a cellphone mentioned earlier.
Speaker Change: Applied AI vehicle autonomous driving training as well as humanoid robot line as well obviously there are other areas that we will continue to invest a include smart cockpit.
Speaker Change: Equipped with local reality features are that it will allow us to you know increase our capability, our multi language voice come out and interaction.
Speaker Change: Function as well and we should be able to also personalize our customer experience with small enhanced our.
Speaker Change: Capability.
Other than obviously, we will continue to invest on the vehicle basis. As you know we will have additional vehicle models that will be launched this year and into 2026 as well to enhance our product portfolio.
Speaker Change: That will help us to complete our portfolio in the long term.
Speaker Change: Okay.
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Speaker Change: Your next question comes from bin Wang with Deutsche Bank.
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Speaker Change: Your carbon something at this quarter, what's the.
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Kim: Thanks Kim.
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Speaker Change: What probably is FX impact thank you.
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James: Hey, Ben this is James So, let let me clarify it so in the first quarter.
Speaker Change: We did receive some level, let's say regulatory subsidies.
Speaker Change: As well as tax rebates are tax handling fees refunds or things like that.
Speaker Change: The recognition of those revenues is based on the actual receipt of the cash proceeds which occurred in the first quarter.
Speaker Change: Now this is and the nature of our I would say our cash collections are into the next couple of quarters I'm not sure. We will continue to be benefited from this type of revenue recognitions.
Speaker Change: So that is a on the other income side.
Speaker Change: You also asked a question about the ethics movement in the first quarter. This is primarily driven by our business in Europe, we have a pretty sizable Oh, I'd say deliveries, we actually delivered more than 10000 units in Europe over the course of last year and we are exposed to euro from a revenue perspective.
Speaker Change: The strength and euro in the first quarter resulted in a portion of our FX gain in the first quarter.
Speaker Change: But we've seen that to circle back a little bit into in the recent months in April and May, but we'll continue to monitor that exposure and be able to control our exposure to euro and not to ensure that FX impact through our exposure is.
Speaker Change: Not a surprise going forward.
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Speaker Change: Our margin guidance. It seems that you have a better product mix with the concordance between SAP instrument of propulsion.
Speaker Change: There were three can you provide guidance for second quarter.
Speaker Change: Gross margin. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Sure. This is James again from a gross margin perspective.
Speaker Change: So first of all I think we've observed we have achieved a seven consecutive months our vehicle margin improvement.
Speaker Change: This was primarily due to cost reduction efforts as well as our achievement of certain levels of economies of scale.
Speaker Change: And then looking into Q2 and beyond but what.
Speaker Change: What I would say is there are still several areas, we see that can help us further improve our vehicle margin.
Speaker Change: The first is continuing to product mix as you mentioned.
Speaker Change: We introduced new models are even the wisdom motor your changes on <unk> and G. Nine we've seen healthier margin compared to the old models and this in line will also help us to further higher our average sales price what I would say is to S. P. You've seen in first quarter is.
Speaker Change: Probably the lowest throughout the year, we will continue to you know sell.
Speaker Change: So better product mix to help us increase average sales price in the following quarters are into 2025.
Speaker Change: The other thing that we continue to see is the material cost reduction through our supply chain optimization.
Speaker Change: And lastly, you know based on our volume projections and a higher volume potentials in the third and fourth quarter. You know, we should be able to achieve higher scale, which will help us to lower allocations and improved vehicle margins as well so with all of that are we.
Speaker Change: We are pretty confident at this point that are going into our second half and into Q4, we believe that our total company gross margin should be able to get close to the high teens level to support us eventually achieve profitability in Q4 as we communicated.
Earlier, thank you.
Speaker Change: Thank you very much just yet.
Speaker Change: Your next question comes from value May with Jefferies.
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Speaker Change: My question is regarding the humanoid robots are we noticed that that Ireland has received a lot of attention at the Shanghai Auto show how are we going to leverage our existing knowhow from autonomous driving to robotics are what are the advantages of our products Oh and.
Speaker Change: Oh, so do we have a specific goal for the mass production, Oh, Oh Oh.
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Speaker Change: Thank you so basically robots, Oh robotics up Milwaukee development Ah They are operating as an independent center within the company, but they didn't languish. Our overall in house full stack R&D capability. For example, the EPA about robots are being developed by a team of autonomous driving.
Speaker Change: Oh, a al Carte departments and also the joins a humanoid robots are being developed by our powertrain team at Exane Motors and also the other parts for example, the spinal cord of human Doi robots. The Isabela, the cerebellum, which is a larger brain off the humanoid robots I mean, everything combined is being developed by both with the robot.
Speaker Change: But and also our autonomous driving you're.
Speaker Change: Driving team, although I would say well in addition to that also all chips.
Speaker Change: Rich the twin ship capability when it comes to developing our island or humanoid robots. So I would say 70% of the development among our humanoid robots are coming from the same source it as autonomous driving our cars are now obviously overall. These are two different products are they have different matrix and so they do have different.
Speaker Change: When it comes to their capabilities and features and form factors. So there are differences.
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Speaker Change: I think ex Pang is a very different from other humanoid robots robotics company first of all we are data driven we redefine how we should build a humanoid robots also we have chips that we are developing in house. The operating system weekend developed in house and we also have full Jack sounds philemon capable.
Speaker Change: If you have a hardware and software that point of view, we are really guided by a super strong coupling capability to do things, especially when it comes to developing new products such as hot humanoid robots. So we expect to actually buy 2026 going into a certain percentage of mass production capacity and can quickly going into a can.
Speaker Change: Quickly interests H O T. A you know agent. We also expect to actually bring a plane for some very surprising and bring new innovative products to the market, which will look very different from what we can see right now are available in the market. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Thank you that's very helpful.
Speaker Change: Your next question comes from Louisiana, with B O C I.
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Speaker Change: My first question is regarding the vehicle margin in Q1 and Q1.
Speaker Change: As we see that Oh, they commodities not to be impacted by some inventory provision in the law purchase commitments related to some older models why do we even excluding these with our call vehicle margin pumping in future, if this impact or what else needs to.
Speaker Change: Oh, well, yeah, when he should I'm. So glad you women just out of that Oh, gosh, Albania much about woman, though.
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Speaker Change: So we will answer your first question. Thank you okay.
Speaker Change: This is James so, yes, we do recognize some level of purchase commitments as we.
Speaker Change: Change some of our models are one of the things you probably have seen from the media is that we have reviewed.
Speaker Change: The very next generation of <unk> seven which.
Speaker Change: The the outlook design has received a very well a feedback on the market.
Speaker Change: So that's part of the a recognition that we have done in the first quarter around the current generation of <unk> seven.
Speaker Change: We also have recently launched a variety of changes and gene I. These have been included in the purchase commitments as well overall I would say the impact of these are in the scheme of things is a relatively small.
Speaker Change: Small it doesn't change the overall trend of our margin improvement for the past seven conservatism consecutive months.
Speaker Change: What I would say is looking into the next couple of quarters in 2025, I wouldn't expect the purchase commitments related to our more more.
Speaker Change: Motto changes is going to be significant so you can take that as a.
Speaker Change: Consideration.
Speaker Change: You know what I would focus is as mentioned earlier, our vehicle margin given our continued cost reduction continued climbing of higher economy of scale as well as the product mix improvement, we forecasted vehicle margin to steady growth.
Speaker Change: The following quarters in 2025.
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Speaker Change: So my second question is that so looking forward to second half the year. We will go upscale again by launching more high priced models home Benjamin to get prepared uphold our prime Yes Asia. Thank you.
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Shelton: Thank you for the question. This is shelton when it comes to our targeted market segment I would say our current lineup are basically feature around a 100000, RMB two 400000, RMB and which Mona is around 100000 to 200000.
Shelton: I wanted to ask him to 200000, RMB, but are basically across 180000 to 500000, a or B you will all be on a target market segment. So starting from Q3 going into 'twenty. So I can see you can expect to actually see a lot of our new product launch that actually has a brand new capabilities. Okay.
Shelton: ALLETE exterior design of the the car, but also the smart cockpits and overall autonomous driving capability and people will be surprised and I think a lot of people are going to are really our most of our new lunches and so for example, as you can see from our brand new.
Shelton: P seven and also going you know, which.
Shelton: We'll be launching in Q3.
Shelton: Going to actually integrate them new capabilities when it comes to the whole vehicle at the powertrain of the architecture of the smart cockpit and also the Kaufmann chip I think all of these areas are something that we're going to focus on in the coming two years and we believe such an improvement an overhaul of outwear and capability.
Shelton: Are being reflected in our lineup will showcase how great a company X spine really is also you know from our past performance and in recent months and quarters. You can also see that the east improvement has been well accepted by the market and we believe that no matter, what a market price segments out there.
Shelton: Targeting and we are very confident of going into a at least the top three if not the top one oh about selling our models in the future. We also are going to launch not only BV models, but also explore electric energy vehicles as well. So we're very confident are going to a premium market segment. Thank you.
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Shelton: So Chicago, so I'm curious to understand.
Shelton: Standpoint, how should we see the competition may be from here.
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Shelton: Yeah.
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Shelton: Yes, we also observed the same trend of the market I think competition are getting more and more.
Shelton: Aggressive from not only domestically, but also internationally as well I think this is something that we will continue to see and it's something that is destined to happen, but we're very from an opposition, which is that technology company sorry, a car a car makers will need to have near and technological capability in order to win in such a.
Shelton: Titian and they will.
Shelton: <unk> be more and more our impact on the market. When you have a more powerful technological element, whereas you want manufacturing capability or capacity will matter less and less and also another trend that I want to highlight here is that automakers are going to sort of converts from an integrated R&D.
Shelton: Formats, you a model off maybe a single direction full stack R&D.
Shelton: All resources to multi aspect fusion integrated R&D capability and I think it will take time to happen, but we have a pretty I'm not sure that it's going to take place. So ultimately no matter how good your sales and marketing teams are doing a you need to be able to deliver that.
Shelton: That popular and that resonates with the customers and fulfill our user demands. So we're very happy to see a lot of companies are changing their traditional way of doing things. We are learning from them. We believe that they are learning something from us as well and I think during this process. We also are able to change ourselves.
Speaker Change: Into you know from the full stack them R&D I'm kind of way of doing our research and development to a suite of integrated R&D. Our ecosystem are entering a matrix of all different R&D aspect do you believe that it will allow us to become even stronger technologically and by that time our integrated.
Speaker Change: As you know companies with only integrated R&D capability are going to struggle, especially in the mid to long term competition. Thank you.
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Speaker Change: So my second question is really quick update.
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Speaker Change: Hi, Nick as Charles I think the collaboration with Volkswagen has progressing at a very fast speed and so far we meet every milestone and we are currently probably less than a one year or two S. O P of our some of our products.
Speaker Change: And yeah, you as you rightly pointed out I think that Oh partner Volkswagen unveiling. Some other models for example, one model based on our Jeannine platform and also there are multiple models that will be based on the E architecture that the wheat, we are jointly developing.
Speaker Change: So I think that all of these small dose well started to come to market starting from early next year.
Speaker Change: So so far I think that I think with all the we're meeting all the milestones and are looking forward I think that we continue will work with our partner <unk> to jointly develop more of our products and also we are also exploring a potential new opportunities.
Speaker Change: That oh that can bring a win win value a two hour punish it.
Speaker Change: Thank you that does conclude our question and answer session.
I'd like to turn over the call to the company for closing remarks.
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