Q2 2025 MGM Resorts International Earnings Call
Good afternoon and welcome to the MGM Resorts. International second quarter 2025 earnings conference call.
Joining the call from the company today are still hornbuckle, chief executive officer and president, Corey Sanders Chief Operating Officer.
Jonathan Jonathan hawkyard Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer Mr. Gary Fritz, president of MGM interactive Kenneth Fong executive director and president of MGM China, Holdings, Mr. Hubert Wayne coo and president of MGM, China, Holdings and Howard Wing, vice president, and investor in investor relations. Participants are in a listen-only mode. After the company's remarks, there will be a question and answer session In fairness to all participants. Please let me yourself to 1 question and
1 follow-up. Please note this conference call is being recorded now. I would like to turn the call over to Mr. Howard Wing. Please go ahead.
Howard Wang: Thanks, Chuck. Welcome to the MGM Resorts International second quarter 2025 earnings call. This call is being broadcast live on the internet at investors.mgmresorts.com, and we have also furnished our press release on Format K to the SEC. On this call, we will make forward-looking statements under the safe harbor provisions of the federal securities laws. Actual results may differ materially from those contemplated in these statements. Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ from these forward-looking statements is contained in today's press release and in our periodic filings with the SEC. Except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or otherwise. During the call, we will also discuss non-GAAP financial measures when talking about our performance.
Thanks, Chuck. Welcome to the MGM Resorts International second quarter 2025 earnings call. This call is being broadcast live on the internet at investors.mgmresorts.com. We have also furnished our press release on Form 8-K to the SEC. On this call, we will make forward-looking statements under the Safe Harbor provisions of the federal securities laws. Actual results may differ materially from those contemplated in the statements.
in our periodic filings with the SEC, except as required by law, we undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or otherwise,
Howard Wang: You can find the reconciliation to GAAP financial measures in our press release and investor presentation, which are available on our website. Finally, this presentation is being recorded. I will now turn it over to Bill Hornbuck.
Bill Hornbuckle: Thank you, Howard. I want to start by focusing on a strength that often gets overlooked, which is the power of MGM's unmatched portfolio diversity. The benefits of having a global presence in both the brick-and-mortar and digital domains drove a record high as ever consolidated net revenue results this quarter. Our vision is to be the world's premier gaming entertainment company. Pursuing that vision is paying significant dividends as we generate revenues in multiple streams across the globe. You're seeing the power of our portfolio diversity strategy on full display this quarter. We've accelerated digital growth combined with record-setting results in China and at our regional properties, more than offset a choppy period in Las Vegas. We recognize that the substantial share buybacks completed in recent years must be coupled with an active growth pipeline to fully unlock the company's value.
During the call, we will also discuss non-GAAP financial measures. When talking about our performance, you can find the reconciliation to GAAP financial measures in our press release and investor presentation, which are available on our website. Finally, this presentation is being recorded. I will now turn it over to Bill. Thank you, Hart. I want to start by focusing on the strengths that often get overlooked, which is the power of MGM's unmatched portfolio diversity.
The benefits of having a global presence in both the brick-and-mortar and digital domains drove record highest-ever consolidated net revenue results this quarter.
Our vision is to be the world's premier gaming entertainment company. Pursuing that vision is paying significant dividends as we generate revenues in multiple streams across the globe.
You're seeing the power of our portfolio, diversity, strategy, and full display this quarter. We've accelerated digital growth, combined with record-setting results in China, and at our regional properties, more than offset a choppy period in Las Vegas.
Bill Hornbuckle: In Q2, our diversity is proving to be the bridge uniting the benefits of a lower share count and growth. We are positioned at a kickoff of unleashed significant value with notable near-term catalysts in BetMGM and Las Vegas and mid-to-long-term catalysts in MGM Digital and our development projects, both domestic and international. Our BetMGM North America venture reported their second quarter results yesterday, raising full-year 2025 guidance for a second time since the previous earnings call, which implies an EBITDA turnaround of nearly 400 million compared to last year. In iGaming, there was a solid growth in average monthly actives and key engagement metrics such as active player days, while sports betting continues to focus on the areas that drove first quarter profitability.
We recognize that the substantial share BuyBacks completed. In recent years, must be coupled with an active growth pipeline to fully unlock the company's value. In 2q, our diversity is proving to be the bridge. Uniting the benefits of a lower share count and growth. We are positioned at key, uh, kickoff of, Unleashed significant value with notable near near-term, catalysts in bmgm and Las Vegas in mid to long-term Catalyst and MDM digital. And our development projects, both domestic and international.
Bill Hornbuckle: More targeted player acquisition, tighter management of lower value players, and the retention of more valuable active players, all of which are benefiting from site components enhancements, including performance, discoverability, and most importantly, speed. With more efficient marketing spend, incremental revenue flow-through jumped to 66% year to date. This winning formula has given us greater conviction in our BetMGM North America's venture's ability to generate 500 million of annual reported EBITDA in the coming years. Our Las Vegas resorts are also poised to drive results higher in the near term, and I want to take this opportunity to emphasize that Las Vegas remains fundamentally solid. We saw a record 2Q table games volume and record slot volumes at our ultra-luxury properties. This quarter's adjusted EBITDA decline was, in fact, isolated from two specific factors.
Our bmgm North America, Venture reported their second quarter results yesterday, raising full year 2025 guidance for a second time, since the previous earnings call which implies an e. But that turnaround of nearly 400 million compared to last year. And I gaming, there was a solid growth in average monthly actives and key engagement metrics such as active player days, will sports betting continues to focus on the areas. That drove first quarter, profitability more targeted player, acquisition tighter management of lower value players and retention of more valuable active players. All of which are benefiting from site components enhancements, including performance discoverability. And most importantly speed
With more efficient marketing, spend incremental Revenue flow through jump to 66% year to date. This winning formula has given us greater conviction. In our betmgm, North America's Ventures ability to generate 500 million of annual reported evop in the coming years.
Bill Hornbuckle: One, the MGM Grand accounted for over 80% of the decline, where results were impacted by a uniquely disruptive room remodel and severely abnormal hold and mid-week weakness at two of our value-oriented properties. On the groups and convention side, our bookings are pacing up double digits thanks to a robust 2026 convention calendar that includes the return of Con Ag. Las Vegas Convention Center is spending $1.6 billion to renovate its legacy campus and expand the West Hall and remains on track to finish by the end of this year. We will also benefit from greater Las Vegas convention attendance, particularly with our expansive luxury offerings. Las Vegas also recently celebrated the groundbreaking of the new $1.8 billion MLB stadium at the former site of Tropicana, which is expected to bring 400,000 new visitors annually to Las Vegas.
A Las Vegas resorts. Are also poised to drive results, higher in the near term. And I want to take this opportunity to emphasize that Las Vegas remains fundamentally solid. We saw our record 2 Q table games, volume and record slot. Volume that are Ultra Luxury properties. This quarter is adjusted ebit. Dark lime was in fact, isolated from 2 specific factors 1, the MGM Grand account for over 80% of the decline where results were impacted by uniquely disruptive room, Remodel and sever, severely abnormal, hold and midweek weakness, at 2 of our value oriented properties.
On the groups and convention side, bookings are pacing up double digits, thanks to the robust 2026 convention calendar that includes the return of Conac. The Las Vegas Convention Center is spending $1.6 billion to renovate its Legacy Campus and expand the West Hall, and it remains on track to finish by the end of this year. We'll also benefit from greater Las Vegas Convention attendance, particularly with our expansive luxury offerings.
Bill Hornbuckle: This puts the NFL, the NHL, and MLB home venues, which also host a significant number of other sports and entertainment events, all within one mile of each other. The resulting Golden Triangle will be surrounded by MGM properties, and importantly, the Dome Stadium will bring meaningful game and entertainment inventory during the summer mid-week periods, which will increase the value of our rooms during that period. Our exclusive Marriott relationship also continues to drive performance with a higher quality customer. We remain on budget to book 900,000 room nights through the strategic channel, and so our 2Q room nights increased 31% this quarter versus last year. Marriott customers consistently spend about $150 per room night more than all other customers, and year to date, the average over 20,000 room nights booked per year. This week, we averaged over 20,000 room nights booked this year per week.
Las Vegas. Also recently, celebrated the groundbreaking of the new 1.8 billion MLB stadium at the former site of the Tropicana which is expected to bring 400,000 new visitors annually to Las Vegas. This puts the NFL, the NHL and MLB home venues which also hosts a significant number of other sports and entertainment events, all within 1 mile of each other.
The resulting, Golden Triangle will surround to be surrounded by MGM properties. And importantly, the dome stadium will bring meaningful games and entertainment inventory. During the summer midweek periods, which will increase the value of our rooms during that period.
Our exclusive Marriott relationship, also continues to drive performance with a higher quality customer. We remain on budget to book 900,000 room nights through the Strategic Channel. And so at 2 Cube room, nights increased 31% this quarter versus last year.
Bill Hornbuckle: The pace is accelerating in July, and we had our best Marriott bookings week ever just two weeks ago. Our international presence brings us another near-term driver as we look to continue the momentum at MGM China, which absolutely shined in the second quarter with record-adjusted EBITDA and market share of 16.6%, representing the highest sequential gain amongst all concessionaires. What's even more impressive was that our share increased every month of the quarter, ending June at 1.3 times our first share of the market. We now have all 28 villas in MGM Macau available as of this month, and while MGM Kautai has begun converting standard rooms into 63 new suites by 1Q of 26, all of which will help us further uphold our complementary position of the properties, and MGM Macau is a leading player in the peninsula and Kautai as a preferred destination for premium mass players.
Marriott customers consistently spend about $150 per room night, more than all other customers, and year-to-date, the average is over 20,000 room nights booked per year. This week, we averaged over 20,000 when I spoke this year for a week.
Uh the pace is accelerating July and we had our best Marriott bookings week ever just 2 weeks ago.
Driver: As we look to continue the momentum at MGM China, which absolutely shone in the second quarter with record adjusted EBITDA and a market share of 16.6%, representing the highest sequential gain amongst all concessionaires. What's even more impressive is that our share increased every month of the quarter, ending June at 1.3 times our fair share of the market.
Bill Hornbuckle: We are also benefiting from the continued momentum of our domestic regional operations. Their stability is highly valued during times of volatility, and we achieved our best second quarter results in both net revenue and slot win. Three of our regional properties reported record high ever net revenues, and we saw a strong performance across the gaming, hotel, and food and beverage segments. Customers have responded positively to our focused capital improvements, and New Jersey is a great example. A few years ago, we upgraded the former water club into what is now the MGM Tower Bogotta, which since May has been complemented by an elevated Asian gaming and overall VIP experience, including a new bar and restaurant. The new 25,000 square foot gaming space includes 51 tables, gaming salons, and a high limit area.
We now have all 28 villas at MJ Mall available as of this month. While MGM Cotai has begun converting standard rooms into 63 new suites by Q1 of 2026, all of which will help us further uphold our competitive position of the properties, MGM Macau is a leading player in the peninsula, and Cotai is a preferred destination for premium mass players.
Bill Hornbuckle: The customer response to thoughtful, targeted capital spending has been encouraging, driving double-digit GTR growth and outperforming the market by a wide margin since its debut. Beyond our numerous near-term catalysts, we have mid and long-term drivers that are making meaningful progress with each passing quarter, one of which is MGM Digital, our consolidated international digital business that does not include the BetMGM North America venture. The segment showed solid improvement, notably a near break-even performance when excluding our investment in Brazil. Our BetMGM Brazil venture partner, Grupo Globo, continues to provide us with beneficial flexibility in terms of marketing and investment, and our launch is making great strides as we are seeing all key measures increasing, including strengthening player fundamentals, and our bullish long-term view of the Brazilian market remains unchanged.
We are also benefiting from the Continuum momentum of our domestic regional operations. Their stability is highly valued during times of volatility, and we achieved our best second quarter results. In both net revenue and slot win, three of our regional properties reported record high ever net revenues, and we saw a strong performance across the gaming, hotel, and food and beverage segments. Customers have responded positively to our focused capital improvements. New Jersey is a great example. A few years ago, we upgraded the former Water Club into what is now the MGM Tower at Borgata, which since May has been complemented by an elevated Asian gaming and overall VIP experience, including a new bar and restaurant. The new 25,000-square-foot gaming space includes 51 tables, gaming salons, and a high-limit area.
The customer response uh, to thoughtful targeted. Capital spending, has been encouraging driving double-digit GTR growth and outperforming the market by a wide margin since its debut.
Beyond our numerous near-term catalysts. We have mid and long-term drivers that are making meaningful progress with each passing quarter. 1 of which is MGM digital, our Consolidated International digital business, uh, that does not include the BET MGM North America Venture the segment showed solid Improvement, notably, a near Break, Even performance, when excluding our investment in Brazil, our Benjamin Brazil Venture partner group group of global continues to provide us with beneficial flexibility in terms of marketing and investment. And our launch is making great strides. As we are speaking. All key measures seeing all key measures increasing including strengthening player fundamentals
Bill Hornbuckle: Stateside, towards the end of the second quarter, we launched MGM's live studio from the gaming floor at the MGM Grand. Content from our live dealer studio, which is currently available in seven countries, is provided internally to our international operations and is also monetized to other online operators. Earlier this month, we launched our own sportsbook product in the second market, made possible by our acquisition of TIBCO's US technology platform as the integration into our in-house tech stack continues as planned. On the development front in Japan, the first pile-on was poured early this month. When MGM Osaka opens in 2030, we will be the sole licensee and operator, which is notable in a country with robust tourism, an appetite for gaming, and a population of over 120 million people.
And our bullish long-term view of the Brazilian Market remains unchanged State side. Towards the end of the second quarter. We launched mgm's live studio from the gaming floor at the MGM Grant content from our live dealer Studio which is currently available in 7 countries. It's provided uh, internally to our International operations and is also monetized to other online operators earlier this month. We launched our own sports book product in the second Market made possible by our acquisition of typos us technology platform as the integration into our in-house Tech stack that continues as planned.
Bill Hornbuckle: Considering these factors and how similar metrics drive other Asian destination gaming markets, we believe MGM Osaka has the potential to generate multi-billions of dollars annually for MGM. Progress in Dubai has also started to gather steam, with an expected opening date of the second half of 2028. And in New York, we submitted our application in June and are hopeful to be awarded one of the three gaming licenses that will be issued in December. Few companies can take on any of these projects on an individual basis, but our unmatched scale and international experience allow us to manage all of these simultaneously while maintaining ample liquidity and a solid balance sheet.
On the development front in Japan, the first pylon was poured early this month. When MGM Osaka opens in 2030, we will be the sole licensing and operator which is notable in a country where robust tourism and appetite for gaming and a population of over 120 million. People, considering these factors and how similar metrics Drive other Asian destination, gaming markets. We Believe MGM Maca has the potential to generate multi-billions of dollars annually for MGM.
Progress in Dubai is also started to gather steam with an expected, opening date of the second half of 2028. And in New York, we submitted our application in June and are hopeful to be awarded 1 of the 3 gaming licenses, that will be issued in December.
Bill Hornbuckle: Reporting record highest ever consolidated net revenues is not possible without the tremendous contribution from some of our all of our employees across all business segments, and it's worth highlighting that we have had another record gold NPS score in the second quarter despite the ongoing room remodel disruptions at the MGM Grand. As you can see, it's an incredibly exciting time here at resorts, and I will now hand this over to Jonathan to provide some additional color on our performance. John.
Few companies can take on any of these projects on individual basis but are unmatched scope, scale and international experience. Allow us to manage all of these simultaneously while maintaining ample liquidity and a solid balance sheet.
Jonathan Halkyard: Thanks very much, Bill. I'd like to also express my appreciation to all of our employees for their hard work and commitment to excellence. Whether on the front lines delivering exceptional service or behind the scenes innovating new solutions, their collective contributions continue to raise the bar every quarter. We're very fortunate here at MGM to have a diverse portfolio of assets that constitute such a deep growth pipeline. The BetMGM North America venture continued its momentum into the second quarter, with revenue from operations up 36%, resulting in second quarter EBITDA of $86 million. iGaming grew 29% in the second quarter despite no new state launches, driven by strong player acquisition at attractive payback economics and healthy engagement activity. Sports betting top line grew 56% in the quarter, benefiting from the repositioning toward the premium mass customer, as well as targeted marketing and refined player segmentation efforts.
Reporting Record highest ever Consolidated. Net revenues is not possible without the tremendous contribution from some of our all of our employees across all business segments and it's worth highlighting that. We have had another record gold NPS score in the second quarter, despite the ongoing Ruby model, disruptions at the MGM Grant. As you can see, it's an incredibly exciting time here at Resorts and I will now hand this over to Jonathan to provide some additional color on our performance John. Thanks very much Bill. I'd like to also express my appreciation to all of our employees for their hard.
Hard work and commitment to Excellence.
Whether on the front lines, delivering exceptional service or behind the scenes, innovating new Solutions, their Collective contributions continue to raise the bar every quarter.
We're very fortunate here at MGM to have a diverse portfolio of assets to constitute such a deep growth pipeline.
The betmgm North America Venture continued. Its momentum into the second quarter, with revenue from operations up. 36%
I gaming grew 29% in the second quarter despite no new state launches, driven by strong player acquisition at attractive, payback, economics and healthy engagement activity.
Jonathan Halkyard: Omnichannel efforts also continue to gain momentum. Our March Madness activations fueled a record number of Nevada first-time depositors, while the single app, single wallet feature helped drive 30% growth in Nevada monthly actives. And as mentioned on yesterday's call from BetMGM, 2025 guidance was raised to at least $2.7 billion of net revenue and at least $150 million of EBITDA. I'm also happy to announce that BetMGM reporting will be aligned with MGM reporting beginning in the upcoming third quarter, thus no longer reporting one month in arrears going forward. We can cue the applause on the call. Here in Las Vegas, the market remains fundamentally sound. During the second quarter and now into July, performance on the weekends has been solid as we've been operating near capacity in our hotels across the spectrum.
Sports, betting, Topline grew 56% in the quarter benefiting from the repositioning toward the premium Mass customer as well as targeted marketing and refined player segmentation efforts.
Omni Channel efforts also continued to gain momentum.
Our March Madness activations, fueled a record number of Nevada. First-time depositors while the single app single wallet, feature helped Drive, 30% growth in Nevada, monthly active, and as mentioned on yesterday's, call from vet MGM 2025 guidance, was raised to at least 2.7 billion of net revenue and at least 150 million of ibida.
I'm also happy to announce that BetMGM reporting will be aligned with MGM reporting beginning in the upcoming third quarter, thus no longer reporting one month in arrears going forward. We can cue the applause on the call.
It remains fundamentally.
Jonathan Halkyard: Our luxury offerings in Vegas maintained rate integrity, with slot and table volume increasing about 4% and several properties reporting second quarter records for net revenue. The year-over-year adjusted EBITDA decline in Las Vegas of $72 million was primarily confined to the MGM Grand and to a much lesser degree mid-week performance at the Luxor and Excalibur. The MGM Grand represented $60 million of the difference, with the vast majority due to impacts from the room remodel and hold. When you exclude the impact of the MGM Grand property on our results, Las Vegas adjusted EBITDA decreased about 2% in the second quarter. The lower mid-week visitation in our more value-oriented properties has continued in July, though we're taking advantage of this dynamic by pulling forward the MGM Grand room remodel timeline.
Sound during the second quarter. And now in digital July performance on the weekends has been solid. As we've been operating near capacity in our hotels across the Spectrum.
Our luxury offerings in Vegas maintained rate Integrity with flat and table volume. Increasing about 4% and several properties. Reporting second quarter records for net revenue.
the year-over-year adjusted IBA client in Las Vegas of 72 million was primarily confined to the MGM Grand and to a much, lesser degree midweek performance at the Luxor and Excalibur
The MGM Grand represented, 60 million dollars of the difference with the vast majority, due to impacts from the room Remodel and hold.
When you exclude the impact of the MGM Grand property on our results, Las Vegas, adjusted. The bar decreased about 2% in the second quarter.
Jonathan Halkyard: Based on this accelerated timeline, we now expect the remodel to be completed by the end of October, which will allow us to capitalize on these refresh rooms in November in time for F1's return to Las Vegas and for the holiday season. When you also consider we've seen positive bookings in three of the last four weeks and solid bookings of groups and conventions that are in place for later in the year, we're optimistic about restoring a growth trajectory in Las Vegas during the fourth quarter that will carry on into 2026. In Macau, adjusted EBITDA rose by 3%, resulting in a record quarter as visitation, player counts, and premium player counts rose at both properties. The focus on premium players is a simple strategy but difficult to execute. Yet our team continues to capitalize on all opportunities.
The lower Midway midweek visitation in our more valuable-oriented properties has continued in July. Though we're taking advantage of this dynamic by pulling forward the MGM Grand room remodel timeline. Based on this accelerated timeline, we now expect the remodel to be completed by the end of October, which will allow us to capitalize on these refreshed rooms in November, in time for F1's return to Las Vegas and for the holiday season. When you also consider we've seen positive bookings in 3 of the last 4 weeks and solid bookings of groups and conventions.
Conventions that are in place for later. In the year were optimistic about restoring a growth trajectory in Las Vegas during the fourth quarter that will carry on into 2026.
In Macau.
Adjusted IBA Rose by 3%. Resulting in a record quarter as visitation player counts and premium player. Counts. Rose at both properties.
Jonathan Halkyard: In July, we soft-opened the Alpha Club at MGM Macau, an ultra-high-end offering that opened with 20 tables. We continue to fine-tune the offering and add amenities with an official opening scheduled ahead of the October Golden Week. The regional properties had a particularly solid performance in the second quarter, with record 2Q net revenue and a 7% increase in adjusted EBITDA. MGM Digital, our consolidated international digital business that does not include the BetMGM North America venture, grew its top line by 14% as the BetMGM brand extension has been driving improved results in existing markets, including the UK, Netherlands, and Sweden. Marketing and bonus optimization combined with OPEX management have been strong drivers of our cost management efforts. The brands we're investing in are beginning to achieve meaningful scale, and BetMGM brands are achieving all-time highs as they grow.
The focus on premium players is a simple strategy but difficult to execute yet. Our team continues to capitalize on all opportunities. In July, we soft open the alpha Club at MGM Macau, an ultra high-end offering that opened with 20 tables, we continue to finetune the offering and add amenities within official opening scheduled ahead of the October golden week.
The regional properties had a particularly solid performance in the second quarter with record. 2q, net revenue and a 7% increase in adjusted debit dar
MGM digital, our Consolidated International digital business that does not include the betmgm. North American Venture grew Its Top Line by 14% as the betmgm brand extension has been driving improved results, in existing markets, including the UK, Netherlands, and Sweden.
Marketing and bonus optimization, combined with Opex management, have been strong drivers of our cost management efforts.
Jonathan Halkyard: Our full-year 2025 adjusted EBITDA expectations remain consistent with last year at MGM Digital. We're on track to achieve over $150 million in EBITDA enhancements in 2025, the majority in Las Vegas, with continued focus on automation and other initiatives in response to customer preferences. We've identified other opportunities to keep us on track as we champion a continuous improvement mindset across the business. During the quarter, we repurchased 8 million shares for $217 million, all of which took place in April. The pace of our repurchases has slowed as we focus our capital deployment on our development projects. Our share count is nearly 45% lower than it was when we began this buying program, and we've received board approval for the ability to repurchase another $2 billion of shares. Finally, we continue to see meaningful value in the current share price.
The brands we're investing in are beginning to achieve meaningful, scale and betmgm brands are achieving all-time highs as they grow.
Our full year 2025 adjusted ebit. Darks expectations, remain consistent with last year at MGM digital.
We're on track to achieve, over hundred million dollar, 150 million dollars in IBA enhancements in 2025 the majority in Las Vegas with continued. Focus on Automation and other initiatives and response to customer preferences. We've identified other opportunities to keep us on track as we Champion a continuous Improvement mindset across the business.
The pace of our repurchases has slowed. As we focus our Capital deployment on our development projects. Our share count is nearly 45% lower than it was when we began this buying program and we've received board approval for the ability to repurchase another 2 billion dollars of shares.
Jonathan Halkyard: When you strip out the value of MGM China at market and assign a consensus value to the BetMGM North America venture, which we still view as very conservative given the current trajectory, you end up with an implied multiple of 3.4 times trailing month, 12 months adjusted EBITDA to say nothing of the value of MGM Digital, a business that's capable of a billion dollars in run rate top line with double-digit EBITDA margins. Said differently, there's an active accelerating growth pipeline that, when paired with a nearly halved share count, together will unlock meaningful value that's not reflected in our current valuation. I'll turn it back to Bill.
Bill Hornbuckle: Thanks, Jonathan. Before we get to questions, operator, I'd like to take maybe a step back and refocus more holistically on what we're up to in the strategy. For us, it's to win the greatest share of the world's growing gaming market. MGM Resorts is the only global operator with the ability to converge gaming and hospitality with entertainment and sports, whether physical or digital, and deliver accelerated diversified growth at scale. We're uniquely positioned to develop synergies across all of those businesses. Our operational focus and calculated investments are paying off. Everywhere we operate, we're winning, particularly in premium and luxury. In Macau, we have been and continue to be and earn more than our fair share, and that continues in the month of July. In digital, we've turned the corner on both the product and cash generation fronts with huge upside to capture.
Finally we continue to see meaningful value in the current share price when you strip out the value of MGM China at market and assign a consensus value. To the betmgm North America Venture which we still view as a very conservative given the current trajectory you end up with an implied multiple 3.4 times trailing month. 12 months suggested Evita to say nothing of the value of MGM digital, the business that's capable of a billion dollars in run rate. Topline with double digits. Even though margins said differently, there's an active accelerating growth pipeline that when paired with a nearly habd share count together will unlock meaningful value. That's not reflected in our current valuation. I'll turn it back to Bill. Thanks Jonathan. Uh, before we get the questions operator, I'd like to take maybe a step back and refocus, more holistically on what we're up to in the strategy for us. It's to win the greatest issue of the world's growing gaming Market. MJ Resorts is the only
Global operator with the ability to converge gaming and Hospitality with entertainment and sports whether physical or digital and deliver, accelerated diverse strike growth at scale, we uniquely positioned to develop synergies across all of those businesses.
Our operational focus and calculated investments are paying off everywhere we operate. We're winning, particularly in the premium and luxury segments. In Macau, we have continued to earn more than our fair share, and that trend continues in the month of July.
Bill Hornbuckle: And in Las Vegas, with the advent of the A's stadium, we're seated in the middle of the Golden Triangle, ensuring MGM is uniquely advantaged by major events, especially sports. And internationally, we are the sole licensee in Japan with 120 million plus people with a proven propensity to game. The point is we have the size and scale to see meaningful gaming opportunities anywhere in the world, and as we look into the future, we remain very excited about that. Obviously, there's been a great deal of talk and focus on Las Vegas, and again, I want to look and take a step back and think of this holistically. Over the last 30 years, the CAGR in Las Vegas and GTR has been close to 5%. We host many of the world's largest events and conventions in a city that is not readily, if ever, duplicatable.
In digital, we've turned the corner on both the product and cash generation fronts with huge upside to capture.
And in Las Vegas with the Advent of the a stadium, we're seated in the middle of the Golden Triangle. Ensuring MDM is uniquely advantaged by major events, especially Sports and internationally. We are the sole Licensing in Japan with 120 million plus people with a proven propensity to gain the point is we have the size and scale to see the meaningful gaming opportunities anywhere in the world. And we look at the as we look into the future, we remain very excited about that.
Obviously there's been a great deal of talk and focus on Las Vegas. And again, I want to look and take a step back and think of this holistically over the last 30 years, the cagar in Las Vegas and ggr has been close to 5%.
Bill Hornbuckle: This fall alone, we'll see Canelo Crawford fight in Allegheny Stadium, one of the biggest fights Las Vegas has seen in the last 10 years. In September, Paul McCartney will be, excuse me, in October, and the F1 in November, with pre-sales better than they've ever been, will be hosted here again in our community. Long-term college football championships come our way in January of '27 and the final four in 2028. Las Vegas is as solid as ever, and MGM couldn't be better positioned to benefit by all of it. With that, operator, let's go to the questions.
Operator: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. As a reminder, in all fairness, please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. And our first question will come from Barry Jonas, with Truist. Please go ahead.
We host many of the world's largest events and conventions in this city that is not readily. If ever duplicatable this fall alone, we'll see Canelo Crawford fight. Uh, in alleged Stadium, 1 of the biggest fights. Las Vegas has seen in the last 10 years, in September. Paul McCartney will be uh, excuse me in October and the F1 in November we pre-sales but then they've ever been will be hosted here again in our community, long-term college football championships, come our way, in January of 27 and the final 4 in 20228 Las Vegas is a solid as ever. And MGM. Couldn't be better positioned to benefit by all of it with that. Operator. Let's go to the questions.
Barry Jonas: Hey, guys. I wanted to start with the MGM Grand. Is 65 million still the right number to think about impact for the disruption? If it is, how much of that has been hit so far in Q1 and Q2? Thank you.
Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. As a reminder, in all fairness. Please limit yourself to 1 question in 1, follow up. And our first question will come from Barry Jonas with the truest, please go ahead.
Jonathan Halkyard: Sure, Barry. Yes, that is still a good number. The only difference is now we'll be experiencing it really through just the nine months of this year as opposed to the full year. And just on the second part of that question, I would say through the first six months by our accounting, it's been about $40 million. And so we would expect that full remaining amount through the conclusion of the project in October.
Hey guys. Um wanted to start with the MGM Grand is uh is 65 million, still the right number to think about impacts for the disruption. If, if it is how much of that has been uh uh, hit so far in q1 Q2, thank you.
Sure, Barry. Yes, that is still a good number. The only difference is now it will be experienced really through just the 9 months of this year as opposed to the full year.
Um, and just on the second part of that question, I would say through the first six months, by our accounting, it's been about $40 million, and we would expect that full remaining amount through the conclusion of the project in October.
Barry Jonas: Got it. Got it. That's really helpful. Bill, you know it sounds like you've somewhat addressed this, but you know clearly we've heard concerns about pricing and value impacting Vegas and MGM. Maybe just spend a minute kind of address that a little bit more in detail, please.
Bill Hornbuckle: Yeah. Look, I think if you think about our luxury products and our offerings, you'd see like ADR up in Bellagio, Corey, help me, 4% for the quarter, something like that. Yeah. And so you would see $250,000 playing above across the first six months of the year, up 25%. You'd see slot revenue up for the year, particularly at the premium levels. And so when it comes to that, I don't think that's a real issue. I think when it gets to our value-oriented properties, properties that focus on all that's going on in the global economy/US economy, there is impact. But given the scale and scope of what we do and how we offer it, it's, you know, while real, and we particularly experience it in the summer, you know, we are excited by fourth quarter and particularly what happens into 2026.
Got it, got it. That's really helpful. Bill, you know, it sounds like you're someone who has addressed this, but clearly we've heard concerns about pricing and value impacting Vegas and MGM. Maybe just spend a minute, kind of, kind of address that a little bit more in detail, please.
Up, 25%, you'd see slot Revenue up for the year, particularly at the premium levels. And so, when it comes to that, I don't think that's a real issue. I think when it gets to our value oriented properties properties, that focus on all that's going on in the global economy. US economy, there is impact, um, but given the scale and scope of what we do and how we offer it. Uh, it's you know, while real and we particularly experienced it in the summer. Um, you know, we're we are excited by fourth quarter and particularly what happens in the 2026.
Barry Jonas: Great. Thank you very much.
Great, thank you very much.
Operator: The next question will come from David Katz with Jefferies. Please go ahead.
David Katz: Hi. Afternoon, everybody. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to just go back to digital and appreciate the update that we had just a few days ago in your opening remarks about it. But I would love to get just another layer of insight into sort of how much cross-benefit there is. And you know I think in the past, you've given us digital sign-ups for the loyalty program, et cetera. You know, how is all of that evolving given the strength?
The next question will come from David Katz with Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Uh, hi afternoon, everybody. Thanks for taking my question. Um I I wanted to um I I wanted to just go back to digital and um appreciate the update. You know that we had just a few days ago and you're opening remarks about it. Um but I would love to get just some another layer of insight into sort of how much cross benefit there is. And, you know, I think in the past you've given us um, you know, digital signups uh, for the Loyalty program, Etc. You know, how is how is all of that evolving? Given the strength?
Barry Jonas: Sure. Well, look, I think one of the things that Bill touched on certainly is the progress we're seeing in Nevada. It's probably one of the big highlights of the omnichannel advantages that we're seeing, where we've seen about 30% growth in Nevada monthly actives and a 4X increase in the number of Nevada actives who continue to play with BetMGM once they go home. So the power of our Vegas funnel, if you will, and turning that into real customers for BetMGM is really a hallmark part of the omnichannel program. We also are aggressively investing in activating players during tentpole events here in Las Vegas. Jonathan alluded to what we did during March Madness as an example.
Barry Jonas: And then on the content side, we're also seeing the ability to leverage things like our MGM Live studio and being able to begin to provision exclusive and proprietary content for players out of that as another advantage of what we uniquely can do as an omnichannel operator.
Sure. Well look I I think um 1 of the things that bill touched on certainly is the progress that we're seeing in in Nevada. It's probably you know 1 of the big highlights of the the Omni Channel advantages. Um that we're seeing where uh you know we've seen about 30% growth in the Nevada monthly actives and you know Forex increase in the number of Nevada active, who continue to play with beta MGM once they go home. So the power of our, you know, Vegas funnel, if you will and turning That Into, You Know, real customers for bet, MGM is really a Hallmark part of of the Omni Channel program. Um, we also are aggressively investing and activating players during, uh, tentpole events here in Las Vegas. Jonathan. Alluded to, you know what we did during March Madness as an example, uh, and then on the content side, um, we're also seeing uh, the ability to leverage, you know, things like our MGM live studio, uh, and being able to begin to provision exclusive.
And proprietary content uh, for players out of that um, as another advantage of what we uniquely can do as an omni Channel operator.
David Katz: Understood. And if I can in another direction, in the past, you made some comments around the arrangement you have with Bonvoy and its benefits. Any update there we could talk about sharing?
Um, understood. And if I can go in another direction, in the past, you've made some comments around the arrangement you have with Bonvoy.
Bill Hornbuckle: No. Look, I think David, the update is despite all that's going on, it's on track and we'll go over 900,000 room nights this year. And so the quarterly performance has been great. I think I mentioned in my opening comments a couple of weeks ago, we had an all-time week of 25,000 bookings in a week. Those customers continue to spend more than the average, almost $150 rep pour. And you know, so all is positive. They've jumped into the convention space with us in a meaningful way now. And you know, while we have 13 GSOs, global sales office representatives, they have 1,300 literally. And so you know, we're very positive and bullish on where it brings us down the road. And about 30% to 40% of those customers are redeemers.
Uh and its benefits. Uh, any update there. We could talk about sharing.
No, look. I I I think David the the update is it's uh despite all that's going on. It's on track and we'll go over 900,000 room nights this year. Um, and so the quarterly performance has been great. I think I mentioned in my opening comments a couple weeks ago. We had an all-time week of 25,000 bookings in a week. Um, those customers continue to spend more than the average almost $150 rep for, uh, and, um, you know, so all these positive they've jumped into the convention space with us in a meaningful way now, and, you know, well, we have 13 GS Global sales office Representatives. They have 1300 literally and so, you know, we're very positive and bullish somewhere. It brings us down the road. Um, and about
Bill Hornbuckle: You know, so they basically are here with a free room, for lack of a better word, and they're retiring it with their points. And so it just presents us with a great major customer.
David Katz: Understood. It's never free. Thanks very much.
30 to 40% of those. Customers are redeemers, you know, so they basically are here with a free room for lack of a better word, uh, in the retiring, it was with their points and so it just, you know, presents us with a great measure customer.
Understood. It's never free. Thanks very much.
Operator: The next question will come from Brant Montour with Barclays. Please go ahead.
Brant Montour: I'm great. Thanks for the question. I do want to ask again about Vegas. The visitation numbers for this trip came out today, as I'm sure you saw, and they were quite bad for June. And it seems like leisure-heavy summer fit customer, it seems like you're gaining share from Bonvoy and some of the other things you're doing. But maybe, Bill, if you could just take a step back and talk about this trip as a whole and talk about what you're seeing maybe near-term in that fit customer and the sort of the next 4 to 12 weeks' booking trends and what gives you confidence that when convention and group comes back and the sort of summer heat abates, that fit customer will come back in the fall.
The next question will come from Brand Montour with barklay, please. Go ahead.
Um, great, thanks for the question. Um, I do, I do want to ask again about Vegas. Um,
Bill Hornbuckle: Right. I think, you know, referencing my earlier comments, history gives us confidence. I think, though, what we have seen, we saw starting in May about a nine-week decline in bookings. And now over the last month, those bookings have increased. And so for the last four weeks in a row, we've seen an increase, three of the last four weeks in a row, we've seen an increase in bookings. And so that gives us confidence as we think about August, September, and into October, remembering that the booking cycle here is short. I mean, 50% of our bookings come within 30-odd days. And so it's pretty, particularly in the summer, reactionary. You know, I think July will replicate June in a meaningful way.
The, uh, the visitation numbers for the strip uh, came out today. As I'm sure you saw and they were, they were quite bad for June and and it seems like, um, you know, Leisure heavy summer, fit customer. It seems like you're gaining share from from bonvoy and some of the other things you're doing, but maybe Bill if you could just take a step back and talk about the strip as a whole, um, and talk about what you're seeing, maybe near-term in that, in that fit customer and the sort of the next 4 to 12 weeks weeks, booking Trends and, and what gives you confidence that when convention and group comes back and the sort of summer heat, um, you know, abates uh that fit customer will come back in the fall.
Bill Hornbuckle: But we have, between programming, conventions, and just, again, back to the Bonvoy program and our Marriott relationship, we have great confidence in the fourth quarter and beyond.
Corey Sanders: And what I would add, June and July this year, we had some pretty big groups cycle out of the city. And we know that they will be back in the future years. You also have the convention center under construction. A few of our competitors had some of their space under construction. So I think it was just a unique summer when it comes to the convention business that we haven't seen in the past.
Brant Montour: Okay. Thanks for that. And then maybe for Jonathan, you know, the $150 million cost savings and synergy savings targets this year, what can you tell us about what you realized in the second quarter, what you realized in the first half, and sort of how to think about the second half?
We've seen an increase in bookings and so that gives us confidence as we think about August September and into October, um, remembering that the booking cycle here is short. I mean, 50% of our bookings, come within 30 odd days and so it's pretty particularly in the summer of reactionary. Um, you know, I think July will replicate June in a meaningful way, uh, but we have between programming conventions and just, uh, again, back to the Bombay program and and our marott relationship. We have great confidence in fourth quarter and Beyond. And what I would add June and July this year, we had some pretty big groups, uh, cycle out of the city. And we know that they will be back on, in the future years. You also have the convention center under, um, construction and a few of our competitors had some of their space under construction. So I think it was just a unique summer when it comes to the convention business, um, that we haven't seen in the past.
Okay, thanks for that. And then maybe for Jonathan uh you know, the the the 150 million um cost savings uh and Synergy savings Targets this year. What do you what can you tell us about? Um, what you realized in the second quarter of what you realized in the first half and and sort of how to think about the second half?
Jonathan Halkyard: Yeah. The first half total is about $80 million. So it's about similar for the first half and the second half of the year. And these are coming from a lot of different areas. They include some of the benefit that we've gotten from digital check-in, from our AI-driven chatbot has helped. Of course, we have, you know, we made some moves in some other revenue areas as well. So we're doing more in our quick service restaurants with, you know, with ordering using barcodes and the rest. So it's really probably 70 or 80 different initiatives which have come together to drive this improvement for us.
Yeah, the uh, the the first half total, uh, is a, it's about eighty million dollars. So it's, um, it's about similar for the first half and the second half of the year. I mean, these are coming from a lot of different areas. They include some of the benefits that we've gotten from, uh, digital check-in. Um, from our AI driven chatbot, uh, has helped of course we have, you know, we made some moves in, um, uh, in some other Revenue areas as well. Um, so we we're doing more in our Quick Service restaurants with, you know, with ordering using barcodes and the rest. So it's really probably
Brant Montour: Great. Thanks, everyone.
70 or 80 different initiatives, which have come together to drive this improvement for us.
Great. Thanks. Everyone.
Operator: The next question will come from John Decree with CBRE. Please go ahead.
The next question will come from John DeCree with CB. Please, go ahead.
John Decree: Hi all. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe one to shift gears on Macau and another solid quarter for MGM China. So maybe the first question is kind of high level on the market. We've seen gaming revenue accelerate in May and really in June. So you know, curious if you have opinions on what's driving that acceleration market-wide, if it's some economic improvements, if it's just the event schedule and calendar, and you know, how sustainable might this TGR acceleration be for the market?
Thanks for taking my questions.
Maybe 1 to shift gears on Macau and another solid quarter for uh MGM China. Um, so maybe the first question is kind of high level on the market. We've seen Gaming revenue accelerate in May and, and really, in June. Um, so, you know, curious if you have opinions on what is driving that
Bill Hornbuckle: Kenny or Hubert, why don't you grab that?
Acceleration, Mark, and wide. If it's, uh, some economic improvements. If it's just the event schedule and calendar and, you know, how sustainable might, um, this TGR acceleration be for the market?
Kenny or ubert. Why don't you grab that?
Kenneth Feng: Yeah. I think I got it. This is Kenny. I think that we are happy to see a growing market driven by premier mass. Macau is not only an event-driven, like customers that come for concerts, but we are seeing more and more customers that come for like refreshing experiences and the quality products and services. So if we come to like MGM China, we continue to see a very strong trend in July. Our performance is pretty robust. We see like our strong volumes across nearly all business segments and solid market share and margin. In general, I would see like in the entire market, I think us, we are seeing we are expecting a promising summer.
Yeah, I think like, this is Kenny. I, I think we are happy to see a growing Market, uh, driven by Premier, uh, Mass. Um, Macau is not only an even, even the driven, I like a customer's, uh, become of coming for concerts, but we are seeing more and more customers, uh, the cam for like a refreshing or experiences, and the quality products, and the services.
so,
if we got come to my come to, like a MGM China, or we continue to see a very strong Trend, uh, in July or, or performance is a pretty robust
Uh, we can see our strong volumes across, uh,
Across the yeti all business segments, and the solid market, share and margin.
Uh in general, I would see like a in the entire Market I think us like we are seeing a we are expecting a promising summer.
John Decree: Got it. That's helpful. I appreciate the color. Maybe big picture, maybe Jonathan, for you. Can you update us on the dividend policy at MGM China? Certainly, GDR EBITDA ramping and sounds like MGM China is continuing to gain a little bit of share. It's a great performance. And how are you thinking about maybe the balance sheet in MGM China and dividend policy as it relates to MGM?
Got it, that's helpful. I appreciate the color. Maybe big picture, uh, maybe Jonathan for you. Can you update us on the dividend policy? Uh at MGM China. Certainly ggr ramping and sounds like I'm Jim shines continuing to gain. Uh, a little bit of share. It's a great performance. And um, how are you thinking about maybe the balance sheet in MGM China and and dividend policy as it relates to NGM?
Jonathan Halkyard: I was with you until the last as it relates to MGM. I'll make a comment on the dividend policy at MGM China, and then I'll invite Hubert or Kenny to speak to the balance sheet there. You know, the board just approved, it was in March or May, a dividend policy of 50% of distributable net income. That's, of course, very important to MGM Resorts as such a large shareholder, and that dividend income approaches $150 to $200 million a year. It's a substantial source of cash flow for the company, and I think an appropriate level for MGM China. Hubert and Kenny, do you want to, I guess, address the general question around the balance sheet?
Approved, it was in March or or may um a dividend policy of up to of of 50% of distributable, net income. Um, that's of course, very important to MGM Resorts as as such a large shareholder and that that dividend income approaches, you know, 150 to 200 million dollars a year. It's a, a substantial source of, um, of cash flow for the company. And I think an appropriate level for MGM. China, uh, Hubert and uh, or Kenny, do you want to I guess address, the general question around the balance sheet.
Hubert Wang: Yeah. In terms of dividend, earlier this year, we have changed our dividend policy to a regular dividend of up to 50% payout plus special dividend, if any. So I think the board will review our cash flow position from time to time and make appropriate decisions taking into account potential development projects in the pipeline. So that's what I have for the answer.
Yeah. In terms of dividend earlier this year we have changed a lot of different policy to a regular dividend of up to 50% payouts plus special dividends if any. So I think the board will review our cash flow position from time to time and make appropriate decisions taking to account uh potential development projects in the pipeline. So that's what I have for uh for the answer.
Bill Hornbuckle: That's great. Thank you, guys.
That's great. Uh, thank you guys.
Operator: The next question will come from Sean Kelly with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Shaun Kelley: Hi. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for taking my questions. You know, maybe a high-level one for whoever wants to take it. Curious on, you know, MGM's view on the big beautiful bill, just the impact here on sort of the gambling community as it relates to, you know, kind of what's going on here. Obviously, you know, the tax deduction limitation is impactful. And in particular, we think about it impacting, you know, I think VIP players and some of the professional players who, you know, may kind of bounce around a variety of properties. So just how do you think about it? And, you know, to the extent you're able, maybe you can talk about some of the political angles MGM's working to maybe make any changes there.
The next question will come from Sean Kelly with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Bill Hornbuckle: Yeah, Sean, let me start off, and then I'll turn it over to Jonathan to talk about the tax impacts on the deductions, et cetera. So last week, we had an opportunity to meet with the House Committee Chair here on appropriations. Myself, Tom Reed, and Craig Billings met with him. And we were focused specifically on the 90% issue of losses. He has a willing, and he subsequently had a hearing here to go over the big beautiful bill with the community. He brought that up as something that he's going to help us work on as well with Congressman Dina Titus to get that corrected because we don't think that's a fair deal. The way it lays out, you could win 1,000, lose 1,000, and still end up paying a 10% tax on 10% of those losses. And so 10% on terms of losses.
Hi, good afternoon everyone and thank you for taking my questions. Um, you know, maybe a high level 1 for for whoever wants to take it, uh, Curious on, you know, mgm's view on the, the big beautiful Bill, uh, just the impact here on sort of the gambling Community, as it relates to um, you know, kind of what's going on here. Uh, obviously, you know, the the tax deduction limitation is impactful. And in particular, we think about it impacting, you know, I think VIP players and some of the professional players who who you know, may uh kind of bounce around a variety of properties. So just how do you think about it? And, you know, to the extent, you're you're you're able, maybe you can talk about some of the political angles, uh, mgm's working to, uh, to to maybe make any changes there. Yeah, Sean. Let me start off. And then I'll have to turn it over to Jonathan and talk about the tax impacts on the, the deductions Etc. Um, so last week, we had an opportunity to meet with the house committee chair here on Appropriations uh, myself, Tom Reed, um at um,
Building some met with him. Um, and we were focused specifically on the 90% issue of uh losses. Uh, he has a willing in the subsequently had a hearing here to go over the big beautiful bill with the community. Um, he brought that up as something that he's going to work. Help us work on as well with, uh, Congressman, uh, Dina Titus to get that corrected, uh, because we don't think that's a fair deal. Uh, the way it lays out you could win a thousand lose a thousand and still end up paying attention.
Bill Hornbuckle: So we're very focused on that as a starting point. I think some of the other things, you know, raising up the slot wins from 1,200 to 2,000 is helpful. And so some of it was productive. And then on the greater picture, Jonathan, why don't you speak to the couple hundred?
Jonathan Halkyard: Yeah. Just a couple of other items that we, of course, have been watching. The one, no tax on tips, you know, no tax on overtime. We believe that's basically neutral to the company and won't really have any impact on our cost structure. The bonus depreciation, however, is quite a large deal for us. You know, we're a company, of course, that invests a lot in our properties, and the MGM Grand renovation is the latest example. And this is one of the reasons why we've updated our tax forecast from a liability of approximately $100 million this year to actually a positive refund of $100 million in 2025. So that's a pretty meaningful change, not only because of this, but in large part because of this bill, this law.
10% tax on, 10% of those losses, and 10% of losses. So, um, we're very focused on that as a starting point, I think some of the other things you raising up the slot win from 1,200 to 2,000 is helpful. And so some of it was productive. Uh, and then on the greater picture, uh, John, I want you to speak to the couple hundred. Yeah, I'll uh, just a couple of other items that, um, that we, of course have been watching the 1, no tax on tips, you know. No tax on overtime. We we believe that's basically neutral to the company, um, and won't really have any impact on our cost structure. The bonus depreciation, however, is, is quite a large deal for us, you know, we're a company, of course, that invests a lot in our properties to, uh, and the MGM Grand renovation is the latest example. And this is 1 of the reasons why we've updated our tax, uh, forecast from a liability of approximately a hundred million dollars this year to actually a um, a positive.
Refund of a hundred million dollars in 2025, so that's a pretty meaningful, um, change. Not only because of this but um, in large part because of the this bill this law
Shaun Kelley: That's great. And then, Jonathan, as my follow-up, maybe you could just walk us through kind of where we sit on the buyback strategy. Obviously, you indicated in the prepared remarks, most of the buyback was done in April, and the pace has slowed a lot. Still a very large authorization, and the shares remain valued. But you know, there's also this obviously very big growth pipeline. New York's coming up. Japan, you know, checks are being written. So you just help us balance that out. Is there a leverage kind of target or ceiling that you're managing to, you know, what are kind of the puts and takes around being able to be a little bit more active in the stock for the balance of the year?
Jonathan Halkyard: We, you know, we entered the year 2025 with a more cautious stance towards share repurchases because of the development pipeline that we're fortunate to have. But then we saw a real dislocation in the price during the first quarter, and we were compelled just by the value to be aggressive. And as you probably recall, I think we did about $700 million or so in the first quarter. That continued into April. So we were more aggressive than I expected. Well, we did more than I expected we would coming into the year, but that was purely because of the price. We don't have a, in terms of leverage, it's, you know, we're well within our leverage targets of about four and a half times least adjusted debt to EBITDA.
Um, that's great. And then Jonathan, that's my follow-up. Maybe you could just walk us through kind of where we sit on the, on, the buyback strategy. Obviously, you indicated in the prepared remarks, um, most of the buyback was done in April and the pace has slowed a lot. Still a very large authorization in the shares remain valued. But but, you know, there's also this obviously very big growth pipeline. New York's coming up, uh, Japan. You know, checks are being written so you just help us balance that out. Is there a leverage kind of Target or ceiling that you're managing to? You know, what kind of the puts and takes around being able to be a little bit more active in the stock for the balance of the year?
I think our we did about 700 million or so in the first quarter that continued into April. So we were
Jonathan Halkyard: You know, I think this company, even with our development pipeline, we still have the ability to repurchase shares, which is why we saw the increase in the authorization. I mean, you know, you just look at a quarter like this, $750 million in consolidated adjusted EBITDA to roughly $250 million in capex, $100 million in interest expense or, you know, thereabouts. You know, this is $400 million in a quarter, roughly, of cash flow that we can use for share repurchases or development capex. So well over a billion dollars annually. And even against the development projects that we have, that still leaves room to return some capital to shareholders. But for the time being, we're, you know, we are in a more cautious stance, and it's primarily because of that development pipeline.
Um, we were, we were more aggressive than, than I. Well, we did more than I expected. We would coming into the year, but that was purely because of the, the price. Um, we don't have a, um, uh, in terms of Leverage its, you know, we are we're well within our leverage targets of about 4 and a half times, we suggested, um, debt, um, debt, to ebitda, uh, you know, I
Bill Hornbuckle: Thank you very much.
I think this this company even with our development pipeline, we still have the ability to repurchase shares which is why we saw the increase in the authorization. I mean, you know you just look at a quarter like this 750 million in Consolidated. Adjusted Eva to roughly 250 million dollars in capex 100 million dollars in interest expense or you know thereabouts. You know this is 400 million dollars in a quarter um roughly of of cash flow that we can use for um share repurchases or development capex. So well over a billion dollars annually and even against the the uh, development projects that we have, that still leads room to return to Capital to shareholders, uh, but for the time being, we're, you know, we are in a more cautious stance, uh, and it's primarily because of that development pipeline.
Thank you very much.
Operator: The next question will come from Chad Bynon with McQuarrie. Please go ahead.
Gary Fritz: Afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Great updates this week from Adam and Gary on the JV BetMGM side. So I wanted to ask about the digital business. I know you guys have talked about investing, particularly in the first half of this year, good growth on the revenue side. Can you just broadly talk about where we are with the investment side of this, whether it's Brazil or other markets, and how you kind of see the setup for the back half of the year and getting to that inflection point in '26? Thanks. Yeah, sure. Thanks for the questions, Gary. Yeah. So I think Jonathan said in the prepared remarks, and I'd underscore it, that, you know, in the absence of the investments we're making in Brazil, we're basically beginning to achieve break even in the rest of the MGM digital portfolio.
The next question will come from Chad Beynon with Macquarie. Please go ahead.
Afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Uh great Updates this week from Adam and Gary on the JV, bmgm side. Uh, so I wanted to ask about the the digital business
Um I know you guys have talked about investing uh particularly in the first half of of this year. Uh good growth on the revenue side. Can you just broadly talk about where we are with with the investment side of this? Whether it's Brazil or other markets and how you kind of see the setup for uh the back half of the year and getting to that inflection point in 26x?
Gary Fritz: The bulk of the growth in that portfolio, we are seeing growth in sort of our core Leo Vegas business, but the bulk of the growth is coming from the BetMGM branded business internationally, which we've invested, you know, over the course of the past year and a half quite heavily in. So we are definitely seeing returns from that and don't see anything between now and the end of the year that would suggest that those trends would be interrupted and we would continue to operate with that level of profitability. So really, the investment is concentrated in Brazil, and we really took flight with respect to our investments in Brazil in Q2. You know, we got the product in good shape in Q1. Q2, we turned on the marketing with a reasonable level of ingression, and we're very happy about what we're seeing.
Yeah, sure. Thanks for the question, it's Gary. Um, yeah, so I think Jonathan said in the prepared remarks and and I underscore it that, you know, in the absence of the Investments, we're making in Brazil, we're basically, you know, beginning to achieve break, even in the rest of um, of the MGM digital portfolio, the bulk of the growth. In that portfolio, we are seeing growth in sort of our core, Leo Vegas business, but the bulk of the growth is coming from the bed, MGM branded business internationally, which we've invested, you know, over the course of the past year and a half quite heavily in. So we are definitely seeing returns from that, um, and don't see anything, uh, between now and the end of the year that would suggest. Uh, the the, those Trends would
Gary Fritz: Player values are strong down there. We see nothing to give us any concern about the TAM and the long-term health in the market in Brazil. And our relationship with Globo couldn't be better, and that relationship affords us a tremendous amount of operating flexibility that our competitors do not have. You know, we can have access to inventory very quickly. We can make decisions about changing marketing mix very quickly because of our relationship with Globo. So that dig will continue through the end of the year, but we'll reiterate again, this year in '25, total performance on the bottom line in MGM Digital should mimic what it looked like last year, and we'll move into '26 optimistically. Great. Thank you. And then going back to Macau, the margins in the back half of '24 were around that 25% range.
Be interrupted. And we will continue to operate, um, with that level of profitability. So really the investment is concentrated, uh, in Brazil. Um, we really took flight, uh, with respect to our investments in Brazil in Q2. Uh, you know, we got the product in good shape in Q1. In Q2, we turned on the marketing with a reasonable level of aggression, and we're very happy about what we're seeing. Player values are strong down there, uh, with the we see nothing to give us any concern about the TAM and the long-term health in the market in Brazil. Our relationship with Globo couldn't be better, uh, and that relationship affords us a tremendous amount of operating flexibility that our competitors do not have.
Uh, you know, we can, uh, have access to inventory uh very quickly. Uh, we can make decisions about changing marketing mix very quickly because of our relationship uh, with globo. So, um, that dig will continue through the end of the year. Um, but we'll reiterate again, uh, this year in 25, uh, total performance on the bottom line, and MGM, digital should mimic what it looked like last year. Um, and uh, we'll, we'll, we'll move into 26. Uh, optimistically.
Gary Fritz: And I think, you know, on the past couple of calls, we've talked about being grounded around that 25% margin range. First half of this year, you're almost at 28%, obviously driven by, you know, higher market share and good premium mass. But can you talk about if maybe we should be thinking about a slightly higher margin or maybe ask differently, if you're able to hold market share above that 15% range we had been thinking about before, could the margins be.Higher
Operator: than than what we had spoken about.
Bill Hornbuckle: Thanks. Kenny, are you ready? You want to grab that? I'm going to have a thought, but go ahead.
15% range, we had been thinking about before could the margins be higher than, than what we had spoken about next.
Operator: Yeah, I think like this is Kenny. I think like, we are pretty, we feel pretty confident that we can continue to maintain such market share, which we have guided for the past few years as run meetings and while maintaining the EBITDA margin in mid-20s to high 20s. So we will, I think that based on our even our current performance as just indicated in our July performance, we see very solid market share and the margin in such range.
I can hear you. But you want to grab that. I'm gonna have a stock. Go ahead.
Yeah, I think like this is a candy. I think like a uh, we are pretty. We feel pretty confident.
That we can continue to maintain such market share.
which we have a guided for the part a few years that's around meeting and while maintaining the ibida margin uh, in mid 20th to high 20s,
Uh, so we will, I I think that based on our even our current performance is is just indicative in our July performance.
Uh, we see very solid market share and the margin in such range.
Howard Wang: Yeah, I agree. I think that, but this is Hubert. I think that our full focus on premium mass is not going to change. Our strategy remains consistent. And we have product to support that strategy in the near future. And I think that lends to itself that we expect our margin to be stable at a high 20s range.
Operator: Yeah. It's true that Kenny, this is, yeah, it's true that competition, like people right now, we are talking in this marketplace, like competition is nothing new in Macau. And we are very, we are focusing on, we are competing on spending our customers and focusing on continuously to refresh our products and services. We just want to make sure our every investment we are making is effective and to reflect what the latest, what the customers want, the trend, the latest trends. So we are really seeing like a sustainable market share and the margin, as we said.
Yeah, I agree. I think that that this Hubert, I think that our folk focused some premium mass is not going to change our strategy with remain consistent. And we have product to support our strategy in the uh, uh, near future. And, uh, I think that lends to itself that, we expect our margin to be stable at high, uh, 20x range. Yeah.
It's, it's too like a candy. This is. Yeah. It's it's to the competition like the people right now. We are talking in this market, uh, place. Like a competition is nothing new in my account, and then we, we we, we, we are very, we are focusing on. We are competing on spending our customers and focusing on continuously to refresh our products and services.
Uh, we just want to make sure uh every investment, we are making effective and to reflect what the latest, what the customers want? The trend, the latest trends.
so, we are really seeing, like, a sustainable market share and the margin as we said,
Bill Hornbuckle: Thank you very much. The next question will come from Dan Politzer with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
Thank you very much.
Operator: Hey, good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. first, I want to go back to the strip. Bill, Jonathan, Corey, whoever wants to take it, you guys have all been doing this a very long time. strip visitation, it's been declining pretty much all year. And to your credit, you've managed through this impressively, especially given the disruption in MGM Grand. I guess, is there anything you can kind of pinpoint in what's driving this decline in visitation? is it international inbound? Is it a different type of customer, less fly-in? And then to what extent do you have levers to kind of adapt further in this environment where, you know, it seems like visitation continues to be under pressure?
The next question will come from Dan Politzer with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
Hey, good afternoon everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Um, first, I want to go back to the Strip. Still Jonathan Corey, whoever wants to take it, you guys have all been doing this for a very long time. Um, Strip visitation, it's been declining pretty much all year, and to your credit, you've managed through this impressively, especially given the disruption, MGM brand, I guess. Is there anything you can kind of pinpoint as what's driving this decline in visitation? Is it international inbound? Is it a different type of customer? Let's fly in. And then, to what extent do you have levers that kind of adapt further in this environment where...
You know, it it seems like visitation and continues to be under pressure.
Bill Hornbuckle: I'll start. I think international visitation has been an issue, not only for Las Vegas, but a lot of destinations. But particularly earlier in the year with Canada, you know, we host a lot of hockey games by way of example, and we saw visitation down. And I think it's, I don't think I know, it's still down. We've seen some of our carriers, I think inbound air seats is down 6% now. By the way, mostly driven by steer with the challenges with their engines. I think Southern California this summer has laid quiet more than it historically has. And so I think that's a consideration that we all need to think about going forward as it relates to value-oriented customers and how to attract them and what to do. We do feel solid about our ability to attract premium customers.
I, I'll start it. Look, I I think International visitation has been an issue. Uh, not only for Las Vegas, but a lot of destinations, uh, but particularly earlier in the year with Canada, um, you know, we we host a lot of hockey games by way of example. And, and we saw visitation down and I think it's I don't think I know it's still down. Um, we've seen some of our carriers and I think, inbound are seats is down 6% now. Um, by the way, most are driven by spirit with the challenges with their engines. Um, I think southern California. This summer has laid quiet more than a historically has
Bill Hornbuckle: And again, looking at the higher end of our spectrum in luxury with Cosmo, Aria, and Bellagio of note, we continue to drive up both occupancy and yield from those customers. But we do need to keep an eye on value. You know, we've followed the headlines, as I think many have, in terms of the value equation, the value stories, and what is being said about Las Vegas. And we do need to enhance upon that. You know, Las Vegas is still an amazing value. Some of the rates out there this next midweek are comparable to things I've seen 20 years ago. And so, you know, to say Las Vegas is not a value, which I know has taken some headline, is just not a complete reality. And so, but we all need to focus on that.
And so I think that's a consideration that we only need to think about going forward, as it relates to evaluating its customers, and how to attract them. And what to do, um, we do feel solid about our ability to attract premium customers and again, looking at the higher end of our spectrum and luxury with Cosmo Arya, and Bellagio of know, um, we continue to grow drive drive above occupancy and you open those those customers. Um, but we do need to keep an eye on value. Um, you know, we've followed the headlines, as I think many have in terms of the value equation, the value of stories and what is being said about Las Vegas and we do need to enhance upon that. Um, in Las Vegas is still an amazing value sum of the rates out there. This next midweek, our, our comparable to things I've seen twenty years ago and so you know it's in Las Vegas is not a value which I know is taken. Some headline is just
Bill Hornbuckle: We all need to change the narrative and continue to keep it positive. And, you know, obviously, as it relates to our particular offerings with Luxor, Excalibur, potentially New York, New York, and somewhat MGM, keeping a focus on that for us as we think about winter season, and ultimately next summer is going to be really important.
Howard Wang: And I think our main levers are our casino database continues to be extremely strong, especially on the regional side, and what we're doing with BetMGM. The Marriott relationship obviously is an advantage in this timeframe. And then the other area that I think we look a lot at is business travel. And when it's not there, the airlines cut back. As I think you'll see in the fourth quarter, they're going to start adding into the city again, which I think will be to the benefit of the city.
This time frame, and then the other area that I think we look a lot at, is business travel. When it's not there, the airlines cut back. As I think you'll see in Q4, they're going to start adding flights into the city again, which I think will be to the benefit of the city.
Operator: Got it. That's helpful. And then just in terms of the third quarter, there's a lot of moving pieces there, and obviously kind of the backdrop you guys just kind of addressed. But if I think about the 25 million from MGM Grand disruption, and then you're lapping a 37 million impact from insurance, it's just kind of any orders of magnitude through which to think about the third quarter in Las Vegas and kind of, you know, before that bounce back in the fourth quarter.
Got it. That's that's helpful. And then, um, just in in terms of the third quarter, there's a lot of moving pieces there and obviously kind of the, the backdrop you guys just kind of addressed, but if I think about the 2500 from MGM Grand disruption, and then your lapping of 37 million impact from insurance. It, it it's just kind of any orders of magnitude through which to think about the third quarter in Las Vegas and, and kind of, you know, before that, that bounce back in the fourth quarter.
Howard Wang: I think what we're seeing certainly in July and looking into August is pretty similar to what we experienced in June in terms of the localization of some of the impacts. So midweek for the value-oriented properties and then the MGM Grand impact, which we've talked about. So that, and I'm glad that you called out the insurance, the cyber insurance proceeds we realized in the third quarter of last year of $37 million. And then, of course, we'll continue these EBITDA enhancement activities, which I mentioned, which came up earlier. You know, we continue to see the benefit of that through the third quarter. But, you know, and so it's going to be kind of a similar situation, and some of it we're taking on intentionally so we can position the company really well for the fourth quarter, particularly with respect to the MGM Grand.
No, I, I think, um, it's what we're seeing, certainly in July and looking into August, is pretty similar to what we experienced in June, in terms of the, the localization of some of the impacts. So midweek during, uh, for the value oriented properties. And then the MGM Grand impact, which we've talked about, uh, so that and I'm, I'm glad that you called out the, uh, um, the insurance, uh, the Cyber insurance proceeds. We realized in the third quarter of last year of 37 million, uh, and then, of course, we'll continue these these Evita enhancement activities, which I mentioned which came up earlier, you know, we continue to see the benefit of that through the third quarter. Um, but
You know, and so so it's going to be kind of the a similar situation and and some of it we're taking on intentionally so we can position the company really well for the fourth quarter, particularly with respect to the MGM Grant.
Operator: Got it. Thanks so much.
Got it. Thanks so much.
Bill Hornbuckle: The next question will come from Steve Wisensky with Stifel. Please go ahead.
Bill Hornbuckle: Hey, guys. Good afternoon. So, Bill, whoever wants to take this, I want to go back and ask another question on, you know, on that Vegas FIT cohort. And Bill, you know, you obviously mentioned a couple of times here that, you know, that FIT cohort has shown some stability recently. And just, you know, I guess my question here is just wondering if you guys have done, you know, anything to kind of stimulate that FIT improvement. You know, we've seen some of your peers out there doing some pretty aggressive promotional work, cutting resort fees and stuff like that, and just wondering, you know, where you guys stand.
The next question will come from Steve Wysynski with Stifel. Please go ahead.
Hey guys, good afternoon. Um, so so Bill whomever wants to take this. Want to go back and ask another question on, uh, you know, on that basic, uh, fit cohort and, and Bill, you know, you obviously you mentioned a couple times here that, you know, that that fit, um, you know, cohort has shown some stability recently. And just I, I guess my question here, I was just wondering if you guys have done
Bill Hornbuckle: And that kind of leads me into my second question, which is, you know, Jonathan, maybe how you're thinking about the flow-through, you know, in Vegas over the next couple of quarters, given the, you know, the shift in the customer mix that's coming into that market. Thanks, guys.
You know, anything to kind of stimulate, um, that fitment that, you know, we’ve seen some of your peers out there doing some pretty aggressive promotional work, you know, cutting resort fees and stuff like that. And just wondering, you know, where you guys stand. And that kind of leads me into my second question, which is, you know, Jonathan, maybe how you’re thinking about the flow-through, um, in Vegas over the next couple of quarters, given, uh, you know, the shift in the customer mix that’s coming into that market. Thanks, guys.
Bill Hornbuckle: So let me start with the FIT. Look, I think based on some of our group activity that we'll pick up later part of the quarter, I think, again, with Marriott at play, we don't see, we're aggressive and we're priced accordingly and we continue to follow, I can assure you, what the market is doing. But we also want to make sure we're market leaders in many respects. And so we continue to drive in buildings like the one we're all sitting in, Bellagio price, and we think that's important. I think occupancy is down three or four points for the quarter. I think you might see the same in the next quarter, but not at the expense of ADR and certainly not at the expense of some of the programs we put in play over the years when you talk about resort fees, parking fees, etc.
Bill Hornbuckle: And so, you know, we're not panicked and nor will our programs indicate that. I do think we need to get the value equation right at the other end of the spectrum with Excalibur and Luxor. It is a highly competitive market and remains that. But, you know, at the end of the day, while they are generating cash flow and they make us money, it's not the whole ball game. And so we will look at those independently a little bit differently. And we will lean into, as we have in the better part of the summer, our casino database. One of the reasons our slot win is up is because of our casino database. I mean, we continue to drive into that and it's been fruitful for us.
So um let me start with the fit. Um look I think based on some of our group activity that will pick up later part of the quarter. I think again, with Marriott at play, we don't see, we're aggressive, and we're priced accordingly and we continue to follow. I can assure you uh, what the market is doing. Um, but we also want to make sure we're Market leaders in, many respects, uh, and so, we continue to drive in buildings. Like the 1, we're all sitting in Bellagio price and we think that's important. Um, I think occupancy is down 3 or 4 points for the quarter. I think you might see the same in the next quarter but not at the expense of ADR and certainly not at the expense of some of the programs we put in play over the years. When you talk about Resort, fees, parking fees, Etc. And so, um, you know, we're not, we're not panicking and nor will our programs indicate that. Um, I do think we need to get the value equation, right at the other end of the spectrum, with Excalibur and Luxor. Um, it is a highly competitive market and remains that
Howard Wang: On the flow-through question, I think a, you know, a generally safe assumption is that we can, you know, we can bring 50% of the revenue increase to the bottom line if we're talking about Las Vegas. And, you know, and strive as we might if we have, if we do have revenue declines. Again, it depends on where it's coming from, but a general rule of thumb is that, you know, we can fade 50% of that through cost management, but maybe 50% of it would hit the bottom line.
Um, but you know, at the end of the day, while they are generating cash flow when they make this money, it's not the whole ball game. And so we will look at those independently and a little bit differently, and we will lean into, as we have the better part of the summer, our Casino database. One of the reasons our slot win is up is because of our Casino database. I mean, we continue to drive into that, and it's been fruitful for us.
On the flow through question. I think a, you know, a generally safe assumption is that we can, you know, we can bring 50% of of the revenue increase to the bottom line if we're talking about Las Vegas and you know, and and and and strive as we might, if we have uh if we do have Revenue declines again, it depends on where it's coming from. But a general rule of thumb is that, you know, we can fade 50% of that through cost management, but, but maybe 50% of it would hit the bottom line.
Bill Hornbuckle: Okay, gotcha. Thanks, Bill. Thanks, Jonathan. Appreciate it.
Okay, gotcha. Thanks, Bill. Thanks, Jonathan. I appreciate it.
Bill Hornbuckle: And the next question will come from Steven Gramblin with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
Bill Hornbuckle: Thanks. I saw on the deck that the overall CapEx moved a little bit lower for the year, which was maybe surprising in the context of some of the benefits from the big beautiful bill. I guess what's driving the reduction and remind us of the timing of some of the major projects that are on the horizon. And I know it's still early, but could the accelerated depreciation change your approach to ROI investments as we look out to 2026?
And the next question will come from Stephen Gramlin with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
May be surprising in the context of the some of the benefits from the big beautiful bill I guess what's driving, the the reduction in remind us of the timing of some of the major projects that are on the horizon. And I know it's still early but could the accelerated depreciation change or approach to Roi Investments as we look out to 2026,
Howard Wang: Yeah, the reduction was really a function of just as we get into the year and look at what we're spending and the ongoing just refinement of the capital plan that occurs during the course of the year. We looked at that and said it's unlikely that we're going to be actually spending the amount that we had put out there. There are no notable projects that we've stopped or decided not to do. This always happens. Sometimes it's a little bit of an increase. Most often it's a reduction. So we wanted to make that clear. And go ahead. Well, I was just going to get into some of the major projects.
Howard Wang: So really the only significant project, the likes of say an MGM Grand renovation, would be the renovation of the Aria rooms, which presently we're looking to begin in the late second, kind of early third quarter of 2026.
Bill Hornbuckle: And then, Steven, one of the things that slowed down this year is we have done an Opera Cloud migration, our front-end hotel system into the cloud. Given the challenges up and down the street in the community, we want to be cautious. So we took a relook at that. It cost us a couple of months in time, but we just launched Park last week seamlessly. It was up and down in 12 hours. And now we're going to head to the Cosmopolitan and the rest of the strip. And so that had some capital tied to it that we simply delayed because we wanted to make sure we got it right. And I'm feeling great. The team did a great job with it. And so I'm excited about moving forward finally with that idea.
Uh yeah the the reduction was really a function of just as we get into the year and look at what we're spending uh and and the ongoing just refinement of the capital plan that occurs during the course of the year. Uh, we looked at that and said it's unlikely that we're going to be actually spending the amount that we had put out there. There are no notable projects that we've we've stopped or or, uh, decided not to do this. Always happens. Sometimes it's a little bit of an increase most often. It's a reduction. Um, so we wanted to, to make that clear and go ahead. Well, I was just going to get into the some of the major projects if you want. So the really the uh, only um, significant project the likes of say, an MGM Grand renovation would be the renovation of the Arya rooms, which presently were looking to begin in the late second kind of early, third quarter of 2026.
Howard Wang: And while just while we're talking about capitals, I consult my list of projects, which I won't spend time going through, but when I look at the number of exciting projects that we have coming online in the late third quarter and early fourth quarter, it's pretty, it's pretty dramatic. There's not a property here in Las Vegas and a few in the regional markets that don't have some really exciting projects coming online.
Miss Steven, one of the things that slowed down this year is we have done an Opera Cloud migration of our front-end hotel system into the cloud. Given the challenges up and down the street in the community, we want to be cautious. We took a relook at that, and it cost us a couple of months in time. But we just launched Park last week seamlessly, with up and down in 12 hours, and now we're going to head to The Cosmopolitan and the rest of the Strip. That had some capital tied to it that we simply delayed because we wanted to make sure we got it right, and I'm feeling great. The team did a great job with it, so I'm excited about moving forward finally with that idea.
Bill Hornbuckle: That's helpful. Thanks. Maybe one unrelated follow-up, but looking at Vegas, I think it was this quarter last year that you called out Formula One kind of proactively. Anything that you're seeing at this point looking out to Formula One relative to last year? Thank you. Yeah. I feel much better about it. This is Bill. You know, pricing was taken into a whole new ballgame, a whole new consideration. And so we think and believe, and I think ticket sales both ours as well as Formula One's would indicate we got it right. I think they've sold over 65% of the tickets today or some number like that. We're in that zone. And so we feel good about it generally, as well as obviously what we do internally with rooms and particularly the Fountain Club that we put up here at Bellagio is a massively unique experience.
And well um just while we're talking about capitals I I I consult my my list of projects uh, which I won't spend time going through. But when I look at the number of exciting projects that we have coming online in the late third quarter and early fourth quarter. It's pretty it's pretty dramatic. There's not a property here in Las Vegas and a few in the regional markets that um that don't have some really exciting projects coming online.
That's, that's helpful. Thanks, maybe 1, unlimited follow-up, but looking at Vegas, I think it was this quarter last year that you you called out Formula 1 kind of proactively anything that you're seeing at this point. Looking out to Formula 1 um relative to last year. Thank you.
Bill Hornbuckle: The race this year is going to have two events versus just the F1 cars, which will be more content. They're going to do some other special things with us around the fountain, which I think will be exciting for not only Bellagio and MGM, but Las Vegas in terms of eyeballs and camera time. And so we're pretty excited by what's happened and where it's all going.
Howard Wang: You just had a million-dollar sale at the Fountain Club yesterday.
Yeah, I feel much better about it. This is Bill, um, you know, pricing was taken into a whole new ball game and a whole new consideration. And so we we think and believe and I think ticket sales both ours as well as formula 1's. Would indicate we got it, right? Um, I think they've sold over 65% of the tickets today or some number, like that, we're in that zone. And so we feel good about it generally as well as obviously, what we do internally with rooms and particularly the fountain club that we put up here at Bellagio, is a massively unique experience, the race this year is going to have 2 events versus just the F1 cars, which will be more content. They're going to do some other special things with us around the fountain, which I think will be exciting for not only Bellagio and MGM, but Las Vegas in terms of uh eyeballs and Camera time. And so we're pretty excited by what's happened and where it's all going. You just had a million dollar sale.
Bill Hornbuckle: That's great. Got it. I'll take that as a call to action. Thank you.
That's great.
Howard Wang: Yeah, we like it. We like it.
Got it. I'll take that as a call to action. Thank you. Yeah, we like it. We like it.
Bill Hornbuckle: Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Bill Hornbuckle for any closing remarks. Please go ahead.
Howard Wang: Well, again, thank you all for joining us today. I know it's getting late. Just as a reference, I'll be in New York at the Bank of America Conference in September. So I hope to see many of you there. Otherwise, we look forward to discussing our three-Q results with you all in a few months. So have a great end of the summer and thank you all for your attendance today.
Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Bill Hornbuckle for any closing remarks. Please go ahead.
Uh, well again, thank you all for joining us today. I know it's getting late. Um, just as a reference, I'll be in New York at the Bank of America conference in September, so I hope to see many of you there. Otherwise, we look forward to discussing our Q3 results with you all in a few months. So, have a great end of the summer, and thank you all for your attendance today.
Bill Hornbuckle: This concludes our conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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