Q2 2025 CVS Health Corp Earnings Call
Operator: Hello, and welcome to CVS HEALTH's second quarter 2025 earnings call. We ask that you please hold all questions until the end of the prepared remarks, at which time you will be given instructions for the question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded today. If you have any objections, please disconnect at this time. I would now like to pass the call to Larry McGrath, Chief Strategy Officer. Larry, please proceed.
Hello and welcome to CVS Health's. Second quarter, 2025 earnings call. We ask that you please hold all questions until the end of the prepared remarks at which time you will be given instructions for the question and answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded today. If you have any objections, please disconnect at this time, I would now like to pass the call to Larry McGrath Chief strategy Officer, Larry, please proceed.
Larry Mcgrath: Good morning, and welcome to the CVS HEALTH's second quarter 2025 earnings call on webcast. I'm Larry McGrath, Chief Strategy Officer. I'm joined this morning by J. Joyner, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Brian Newman, Chief Financial Officer. Following our prepared remarks, we will host a question and answer session that will include additional members of the leadership team. Our press release and slide presentation have been posted to our website, along with our Form 10-Q, filed this morning with the SEC. Today's call is also being broadcast on our website, where it will be archived for one year. During this call, we will make certain forward-looking statements. Our forward-looking statements are subject to significant risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from currently projected results. We strongly encourage you to review the reports we file with the SEC regarding these risks and uncertainties.
Good morning and welcome to the CVS Health second quarter 2025 earnings call on webcast.
I'm Laurence McGrath, Chief Strategy Officer. I'm joined this morning by David Joyner, President and Chief Executive Officer, and I'm Brian Newman, Chief Financial Officer.
Following our prepared remarks, we'll host a question and answer session that will include additional members of the leadership team.
Our press release and slide presentation have been posted to our website along with our form 10 Q while this morning with the SEC.
Today's call is also being broadcast on our website.
Wherever we archive for 1 year.
During this call, we'll make certain forward-looking statements. Our forward-looking statements are subject to significant risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from currency, projected results.
Larry Mcgrath: In particular, those that are described in the cautionary statement concerning forward-looking statements and risk factors in our most recent annual report on Form 10-K, our quarterly report on Form 10-Q filed this morning, and our recent filings on Form 8-K, including this morning's earnings press release. During this call, we will use non-GAAP measures when talking about the company's financial performance and financial condition. You can find a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures in this morning's press release and in the reconciliation document posted to the investor relations portion of our website. With that, I would like to turn the call over to David. David?
We strongly encourage you to review the reports. We fought with the SEC regarding these risks and uncertainties.
In particular those that are described in the cautionary statements concerning, forward-looking statements and risk factors in our most recent annual report and formed tank. Our quarterly report and formed 10 cue file this morning. And our recent filings informed 8K, including this morning's earnings press release.
During this call, we'll use non-gaap measures when talking about the company's financial performance and financial conditions.
And you can find our reconciliation of these non-gaap measures in this morning's press release. And in the reconciliation document posted to the investor relations portion of our website.
With that. I'd like to turn the call over to David David.
David Joyner: Thank you, Larry, and good morning, everyone. This morning, we are pleased to report another consecutive quarter of solid results as we execute against our ambition of becoming America's most trusted healthcare company. In the second quarter, we delivered adjusted operating income of $3.8 billion and adjusted earnings per share of $1.81. We again increased our full-year 2025 adjusted EPS guidance to a range of $6.30 to $6.40, up from our previous range of $6.00 to $6.20. Our strong results and updated expectations reflect the power of our diversified business. We are seeing the impact of our intense focus on the execution within our Aetna and pharmacy businesses while managing incremental pressure in healthcare delivery. We are encouraged by our enterprise performance and revised outlook, especially in this very dynamic environment.
Thank you, Larry, and good morning, everyone. This morning, we are pleased to report another consecutive quarter of solid results as we execute against our ambition of becoming America's most trusted healthcare company.
In the second quarter, we delivered adjusted operating income of 3.8 billion dollars and adjusted earnings per share of 1.81.
We again increased our full year 2025 adjusted EPS guidance to a range of $6.30.
$6.40 up from our previous range of $6 to $6.20.
Our strong results and updated expectations, reflect the power of our Diversified business.
We are seeing the impact of our intense focus on the execution within our Aetna and Pharmacy businesses.
While managing incremental pressure and Healthcare delivery.
David Joyner: At the same time, we continue to maintain a prudent and respectful outlook for the remainder of the year, with clear opportunities for outperformance. Brian will provide specifics later in the call. As we focus on delivering against our financial commitments to you, we are also taking on the largest challenges in healthcare: affordability, access, and inconsistent care coordination. The breadth of these problems means that they can't be addressed with a fragmented, piecemeal approach. Instead, it requires holistic solutions implemented by companies with the necessary reach, capabilities, and focus to execute on them. CVS Health holds a unique position in healthcare with our diverse and scaled businesses, our national footprint of community health destinations, and the deep connections we have with more than 185 million consumers. We have unmatched reach and powerful insights that drive our innovation and differentiated solutions.
We are encouraged by our Enterprise performance and revised Outlook especially in this very Dynamic environment.
At the same time, we continue to maintain a prudent and respectful outlook for the remainder of the year.
With clear opportunities for outperformance. Ryan will provide specifics later in the call.
As we focus on delivering against our financial commitments to you, we are also taking on the largest challenges in healthcare.
Affordability, access and inconsistent care coordination.
Means that they can't be addressed with the fragmented piecemeal approach.
Instead, it requires Holistic Solutions and implemented by companies with the necessary reach capabilities and focus to execute on them.
CVS holds a unique position in healthcare.
With our diverse and scaled businesses.
Our national footprint of Community Health destinations and the Deep connections we have with more than 185 million consumers.
We have unmatched, reach and powerpro insights that drive our Innovation and differentiate the solutions.
David Joyner: Tackling these challenges requires that each of our businesses be best in class. I'm pleased to report that we are making meaningful progress in the Aetna business. Our recovery has been a top priority. We realigned the organization and strengthened our talent with a clear focus on creating distinction in the marketplace. We enhanced our operations using technology to automate and streamline processes that improve service and reduce friction for our members and healthcare professionals. We're starting to see the results of these efforts delivering better experiences while also allowing us to better navigate this elevated utilization environment. Our work is not done. As we look ahead, we will maintain this intense focus, continuing to diligently execute against our margin recovery plan.
Tackling these challenges requires that each of our businesses be Best in Class.
I'm pleased to report that we are making meaningful progress in the Aetna business.
Our recovery has been a top priority. We realign the organization and strengthen our talent.
With the clear focus on creating distinction in the marketplace.
We enhanced our operations using technology to automate and streamline processes that improve service and reduce friction for our members and Healthcare professionals.
We are starting to see the results of these efforts delivering better experiences while also allowing us to better navigate this elevated utilization environment.
But our work is not done.
David Joyner: While we are pleased with the improvements we are seeing at Aetna, we continue to see pressure in our healthcare delivery business, driven by higher medical benefit ratios at Oak Street Health. This is partially offset by continued positive performance at Signify Health. Value-based care remains a critical component of our Medicare Advantage strategy, as we know that it delivers better clinical outcomes, better patient experiences, and a lower total cost of care. We are working with urgency to further strengthen this business and ensure seniors can benefit from this industry-leading model. This includes improving operations through investments in technology, enhancing leadership with talent from across CVS Health, and improving our partnerships with our payer clients. We know that Oak Street Health capabilities are best in class and are taking the right actions to improve performance. Let me turn now to our pharmacy businesses.
As we look ahead, we will maintain this intense focus, continuing to diligently execute against our margin recovery plan. While we are pleased with the improvements, we are seeing it at Aetna.
We continue to see pressure in our Healthcare delivery business driven by higher medical benefit ratios at Oak Street.
This is partially offset by continued positive performance that signifies health.
Value based care remains a critical component.
For Medicare Advantage strategy. As we know that it delivers better clinical outcomes.
Better patient experience is.
And the lower total cost of care.
We are working with urgency to further strengthen this business and ensure seniors can benefit from this industry-leading model.
This includes improving operations through investments in technology.
Enhancing leadership with Talent from across CVS health.
And improving our Partnerships with our payer clients.
We know that Oak Street's capabilities are best in class, and they are taking the right actions to improve performance.
David Joyner: At Caremark, we are delivering on our commitments to clients and members by doing what PBMs do best: adapting to client needs, driving down drug costs, and helping to deliver better access and outcomes. Managing trend remains the most important focus for our customers as they try to balance the benefit of new drug innovations and their higher cost. Our PBM is saving consumers and clients billions of dollars a year on drug costs, but we must continue to innovate and drive more savings. For example, our clients needed a solution as they experienced the impact of the rapid growth in the use of GLP-1s. Spend in this category for our employer clients has nearly doubled over the last two years and now represents 15% of their pharmacy costs. On July 1st, we took a significant step to create competition among manufacturers to lower costs in this drug category.
Let me turn now to our Pharmacy businesses at Caremark. We are delivering on our commitments, to clients and members by doing what pbms do best.
Adapting, the client needs driving down drug costs and helping to deliver better access and outcomes.
Managing trend remains the most important focus for our customers as they try to balance the benefit of new drug innovations and their higher cost.
Our PBM, the saving consumers and clients billions of dollars a year on drug costs but we must continue to innovate and drive more savings.
For example, our clients needed a solution as they experience the impact of the rapid growth in the use of GLP-1s.
And in this category for our employer clients is nearly doubled over the last 2 years and now represent 15% of their Pharmacy costs.
David Joyner: We used our unique capabilities to minimize friction, resulting in over 95% of the eligible members adopting a preferred formulary weight loss product. However, we know drug therapy alone is not enough to achieve the best outcomes. To address this, we offer a powerful weight management program that empowers patients to achieve greater weight loss than drug therapy alone. Importantly, our program participants on average achieve double-digit percent weight loss at 12 months, regardless of the drug they use. Our innovation, reach, and clinical capabilities differentiate us in the pharmacy benefit management marketplace. We are having a strong start to the 2026 selling season, with retention expected to be in the high 90s. Our approach and commitment to lowering costs is also leading to new wins with the most sophisticated clients.
On July 1st, we took a significant step to create competition among manufacturers to lower costs in this drug category.
We used our unique capabilities to minimize, friction resulting in over 95% of the eligible members adopting a preferred formulary weight loss product.
However, we know drug therapy alone is not enough to achieve the best outcomes.
To address this. We offer a powerful weight management program that empowers patients to achieve greater weight loss and drug therapy alone.
Importantly our program participants on average achieve double digit percent weight loss at 12 months. Regardless of the drug they use,
Our Innovation reach and clinical capabilities differentiate Us in the pvm marketplace.
We're having a strong start to the 2026 selling season with retention expected to be in the high 90s.
David Joyner: For example, in our new business win with CalPERS, they specifically highlighted our commitment to delivering more affordable drug benefits and our performance-based model that emphasizes managing pharmacy costs and ensuring clinical quality. In our retail pharmacy business, we are working tirelessly to be the source of stability as we ensure the communities we serve across America maintain access to their medications. CVS Health delivered another strong quarter despite persistent reimbursement pressures. Our performance is a direct result of our ability to anticipate market dynamics and take the right actions to lead the industry. We made deliberate investments in technology and our colleagues to strengthen our operations, deliver best-in-class service, and ensure we are the employer of choice in the pharmacy market. Our front-store business continues to improve as we grow our customer base and gain retail share.
Our approach and commitment to lowering costs is also leading to new wins with the most sophisticated clients.
For example, in our new business win with CalPERS, we specifically highlighted our commitment to delivering more affordable drug benefits and our performance-based model that emphasizes managing pharmacy costs and ensuring clinical quality.
In our retail pharmacy business, we are working tirelessly to be at the source of stability as we ensure the communities we serve across America maintain access to their medications.
Pcw delivered, another strong quarter.
Despite persistent reimbursement, pressures.
Our performance is a direct result of our ability to anticipate market dynamics and take the right actions to lead the industry.
Colleagues to strengthen our operations.
Deliver best-in-class service and ensure. We are the employer of choice in the phy market
our front door business continues to improve as we grow our customer base and gain retail share
David Joyner: We continue to have best-in-class generic drug purchasing through Red Oak, and we share those savings with our payer partners through our CVS cost-managed model. Under this new model, we are fairly reimbursed for every script we dispense and the value we provide to our customers. We are encouraged by the transition of our commercial scripts to CVS cost-managed, which continues to be in line with our expectations. We are making good progress on the next stage of evolving the pharmacy reimbursement model as we transition our government business to cost-based pricing models for 2026. This quarter, we made a number of important announcements as we strive towards our goal of improving the healthcare experience in America.
We continue to have best-in-class, generic drug purchasing through Red Oak and we share those savings with our payer Partners through our CVS cost management model.
Under this new model, we are fairly reimbursed for every script we dispense and the value we provide to our customers.
We are encouraged by the transition of our commercial scripts to CBS cost Vantage which continues to be in line with our expectations.
We're making good progress on the next stage of evolving the pharmacy reimbursement model. As we transition, our government business to cost-based pricing models, for 2026
This quarter, we made a number of important announcements as we strive towards our goal of improving the healthcare experience in America.
David Joyner: Last month, we announced our pledge with CMS to streamline, simplify, and reduce unnecessary complexities in healthcare. We have taken a leading role in the industry's initiative to improve prior authorization and deliver a better experience for providers and patients. We are not stopping there. We have taken steps to make the prior authorization process simpler for patients undergoing cancer care. We are bundling multiple requests into one upfront approval, eliminating unnecessary complexity. The response to this initiative has been encouraging, and we're working hard to expand the program to additional therapeutic areas. We also recently announced that over the next decade, we committed $20 billion to support our transformation of healthcare. We will deliver a better healthcare experience with reduced friction, greater visibility, and a stronger partnership with doctors and hospitals. By delivering on these ambitions, we'll enable providers to focus on patient care instead of administrative tasks.
Last month, we announced our pleasure with CMS to streamline simplify and reduce unnecessary complexities in healthcare.
We've taken a leading role in the industry's initiative to improve prior authorization.
And deliver a better experience for providers and patients.
But we're not stopping there.
We've taken steps to make the prior authorization process simpler for patients undergoing cancer care.
We are bundling multiple requests into 1 up front approval.
Eliminating unnecessary complexity.
Response to this initiative has been encouraging. And we're working hard to expand the program to additional therapeutic areas.
We also recently announced that over the next decade, we are committing $20 billion to support our transformation of healthcare.
We will deliver a better Healthcare experience with reduced friction.
Greater visibility and the stronger partnership with doctors and hospitals.
By delivering on these ambitions, we will enable providers to focus on patient care instead of administrative tasks.
David Joyner: Members will benefit from the clearer communication and simpler healthcare journeys. We will develop new ways to connect the healthcare landscape so it works better for people. We will use emerging technologies to innovate and drive the transformation of the healthcare experience of today, making it unrecognizable in 10 years. Our investments will allow us to drive change at scale and will empower consumers with the right information to engage on their terms. We look forward to sharing additional updates and innovations in the near future. We are building momentum as we navigate what continues to be a dynamic and evolving environment. We're strengthening our position as we execute against our strategic priorities and deliver solid results. We remain focused on building trust and are setting expectations that are appropriate and achievable and continue to focus on areas where we can drive out performance.
Members will benefit from the clear communication and simpler Healthcare Journeys.
We will develop new ways to connect the healthcare landscape so it works better for people.
We will use emerging Technologies to innovate and drive the transformation of the healthcare experience of today.
Making it unrecognizable in 10 years.
Our investments will allow us to drive change at scale and we'll Empower consumers with the right information to engage on their terms.
We look forward to sharing additional updates and Innovations in the near future.
We are building momentum as we navigate what continues to be a dynamic and evolving environment.
We're strengthening our position as we execute against our strategic priorities and deliver solid results.
We remain focused on building, Trust.
David Joyner: With that, I'd like to hand the call over to Brian. Brian?
And are setting expectations that are appropriate and achievable and continue to focus on areas where we can drive out performance.
With that, I'd like to hand the call over to Brian. Brian.
Brian Newman: Thank you, David, and good morning. I want to start off by saying how excited I am to be part of CVS Health and this leadership team. I joined CVS Health because I truly believe in the meaningful impact we can have on improving healthcare in this country. Our scale and deep consumer touchpoints uniquely position us to deliver a differentiated experience. After my first couple of months, my belief in our enterprise mission has been consistently reaffirmed. I am looking forward to meeting many of you over the course of the next few months and sharing updates about our progress. In my prepared remarks this morning, I will cover three primary areas. First, I will provide an update on our second quarter results. Next, I will discuss cash flow and the balance sheet. Finally, I will wrap up with our financial outlook for the remainder of the year.
Thank you, David, and good morning. I want to start off by saying how excited I am to be part of CVS Health and this leadership team. I joined CVS Health because I truly believe in the meaningful impact we can have on improving health care in this country.
Our scale and deep consumer touch points. Uniquely position us to deliver a differentiated experience.
After my first couple of months, my belief in our Enterprise Mission has been consistently reaffirmed. I am looking forward to meeting many of you over the course of the next few months and sharing updates about our progress.
In my prepared remarks this morning, I will cover three primary areas. First, I will provide an update on our second quarter results.
Next, I'll discuss cash flow and the balance sheet.
And finally, I'll wrap up with our financial outlook for the remainder of the year.
Brian Newman: CVS Health successfully navigated another dynamic quarter driven by the strength of our execution. Let me provide some highlights on our enterprise performance. Second quarter revenues of nearly $99 billion increased approximately 8% over the prior year quarter, driven by revenue growth across all segments. We delivered adjusted operating income of approximately $3.8 billion during the quarter, an increase of nearly 2% from the prior year quarter, driven by increases in our healthcare benefits and pharmacy and consumer wellness segments, partially offset by a decline in our health services segment. Second quarter adjusted EPS of $1.81 was relatively consistent with the prior year quarter. Finally, we generated year-to-date cash flow from operations of approximately $6.5 billion. Turning now to each of our segments.
CVS Health successfully navigated another dynamic quarter driven by the strength of our execution.
Let me provide some highlights on our Enterprise performance.
Second quarter revenue of nearly $99 billion increased approximately 8% over the prior year. The quarter was driven by revenue growth across all segments.
We delivered adjusted operating income of approximately $3.8 billion during the quarter.
In increase of nearly 2% from the prior year. Quarter driven by increases in our Healthcare benefits and Pharmacy and consumer Wellness. Segments partially offset by a decline in our health services segment.
Second quarter adjusted, EPS of 1.81 was relatively consistent with the prior year quarter.
Finally, we generated year-to-date cash flow from operations of approximately $6.5 billion.
Brian Newman: In healthcare benefits, we generated over $36 billion of revenue in the quarter, an increase of over 11% from the prior year, primarily driven by increases in our government businesses, largely related to the impact of the Inflation Reduction Act on the Medicare Part D program. Medical membership of approximately 26.7 million as of the end of the quarter decreased by approximately 350,000 members sequentially, primarily driven by the previously discussed declines in our individual exchange product early in the second quarter. Adjusted operating income in the quarter was approximately $1.3 billion, an increase of nearly 40% from the prior year quarter, driven by the favorable year-over-year impact of changes to our individual exchange risk adjustment estimates, improved underlying performance in our government businesses, and higher favorable prior period development. These increases were partially offset by a premium deficiency reserve in our group Medicare Advantage business of approximately $470 million.
Turning now to each of our segments in healthcare benefits, we generated over $36 billion of revenue in the quarter.
Of over 11% from the prior year.
Primarily driven by increases in our government. Businesses largely related to the impact of the inflation reduction act on the Medicare Part D program.
Medical membership of approximately 26.7 million as of the end of the quarter decreased by approximately 350,000 members sequentially.
Primarily driven by the previously discussed declines in our individual exchange product early in Q2.
Adjusted operating income in the quarter was approximately $1.3 billion, an increase of nearly 40% from the prior year quarter. This was driven by the favorable year-over-year impact of changes to our individual exchange risk, improved adjustment estimates, enhanced underlying performance in our government businesses, and higher favorable prior period development.
These increases were partially offset by a premium deficiency reserve in our group Medicare Advantage business of approximately $470 million.
Brian Newman: Trends in our group MA business remained elevated during the quarter and were modestly higher than our expectations. This resulted in a revision of our estimate for trends for the remainder of the 2025 plan year, triggering a PDR. As we previously discussed, group MA contracts tend to be multi-year agreements and reprice less frequently than our individual MA business. We expect to make progress on margin recovery in our group MA book over the next few years as contracts come due for renewal, including the opportunity to reprice approximately half of our group MA revenue in 2026. Our medical benefit ratio during the quarter was 89.9%, an increase of 30 basis points from the prior year. This increase primarily reflects a 140 basis point impact from the group MA PDR, largely offset by the favorable year-over-year impact of changes in our individual exchange risk adjustment estimates.
Trends in our group, my business remained elevated during the quarter and were modestly higher than our expectations.
This resulted in a revision of our estimate for trends for the remainder of the 2025. Plan year triggering a PDR
As we previously discussed group, ma contracts tend to be multi-year agreements and repriced less frequently than our individual ma business.
We expect to make progress on margin recovery in our group ma book over the next few years as contracts can do for Renewal, including the opportunity to reprice approximately half of our group ma Revenue in 2026.
Our medical benefit ratio during the quarter was 89.9%, an increase of 30 basis points from the prior year.
This increase primarily reflects a 140 basis point impact from the group mapr,
Brian Newman: During the quarter, we received final 2024 risk adjustment data for our individual exchange business. As a result, we decreased our risk adjustment payable for the 2024 plan year by approximately $300 million. We experienced favorable development across all lines of business during the quarter, predominantly related to fourth quarter 2024 and first quarter 2025 dates of service. When the favorable prior year development is combined with the favorable risk adjustment, it largely offsets the impact of the group MA PDR within the quarter. In our Medicare business, while trends remained elevated, performance in the quarter was modestly ahead of expectations. This outperformance was again primarily in our individual Medicare Advantage business, driven by favorability within our supplemental benefit offerings and Part D. We continue to remain cautious on the outlook for Part D until we have additional experience given the substantial changes in planned liability in 2025.
Largely offset by the favorable year-over-year impact of changes in our individual exchange risk adjustment and estimates.
during the quarter, we received final 2024 risk adjustment data for our individual exchange business
As a result, we decreased our risk adjustment payable for the 2024 plan year by approximately $300 million.
We experienced favorable development of all lines of business during the quarter.
Predominantly related to fourth quarter 2024 and first quarter, 2025 dates of service.
When the favorable prior year development is combined with the favorable risk adjustment, it largely offsets the impact of the group mappd within the quarter.
In our Medicare business, while trends remained elevated, performance in the quarter was modestly ahead of expectations.
This outperformance was, again, primarily in our individual Medicare Advantage business, driven by favorability within our supplemental benefit offerings and Part D.
We continue to remain cautious on the outlook for Part D until we have additional experience, given the substantial changes in plan liability in 2025.
Brian Newman: Across our other Aetna lines of business, results were broadly in line with our expectations. There were no changes to the expectations embedded in the PDR we recorded last quarter related to our individual exchange business, although we continue to closely monitor emerging cost trends in this book. Days claimed payable at the end of the quarter was approximately 40.9 days, down approximately two days sequentially, primarily driven by a higher mix of pharmacy costs, partially offset by the impact of the group MA premium deficiency reserve recorded in the quarter. We remain confident in the adequacy of our reserves. Shifting now to our health services segment. During the quarter, we generated revenues of over $46 billion, an increase of over 10% year-over-year. This increase was primarily driven by pharmacy drug mix and brand inflation, partially offset by continued pharmacy client price improvements.
Across our other end, the lines of business results were broadly in line with our expectations. There were no changes to the expectations embedded in the PDR. We recorded last quarter related to our individual exchange business.
Although we continue to closely monitor emerging cost trends in this book,
Days claim payable at the end of the quarter was approximately 40.9 days down approximately 2 days sequentially, primarily driven by a higher mix of Pharmacy costs. Partially offset by the impact of the group. Ma premium deficiency, Reserve recorded in the quarter.
We remain confident in the adequacy of our Reserves.
shifting now to our health services segment,
During the quarter, we generated revenues of over $46 billion, an increase of over 10% year-over-year.
Increase was primarily driven by pharmacy, drug mix, and brand inflation.
Brian Newman: Adjusted operating income in the quarter of approximately $1.6 billion decreased approximately 18% from the prior year quarter, primarily driven by continued pharmacy client price improvements and the impact of a higher medical benefit ratio within our healthcare delivery business, partially offset by improved purchasing economics and pharmacy drug mix. As we discussed last quarter, results in our pharmacy services business can see material fluctuations throughout the year. In 2024, we saw strong performance in the second quarter following a slow start to the year, which impacts the prior year comparison. In our healthcare delivery business, total revenues in the quarter grew approximately 19% compared to the same quarter last year, excluding the impact of our exit from the ACO REACH program and the sale of our MSSP business earlier this year. This increase was primarily driven by patient growth at Oak Street Health and increased volumes at Signify Health.
Partially offset by continued Pharmacy client price improvements.
Adjusted operating income in the quarter of approximately $1.6 billion, 18% from the prior year quarter.
Primarily driven by continued, Pharmacy client price improvements and the impact of a higher medical benefit ratio within our Healthcare delivery business partially offset by improved, purchasing economics and Pharmacy. Drug mix.
As we discussed last quarter results, in our Pharmacy Services business can see material fluctuations throughout the year.
In 2024, we we saw strong performance in the second quarter, following a slow start to the year, which impacts the prior year comparison.
Excluding the impact of our exit from the ACO reach program and the sale of our mssp business earlier this year.
Brian Newman: During the quarter, we continued to expand the number of patients served at Oak Street Health and ended the quarter with total at-risk membership up 31% from the same period last year. Results in our healthcare delivery business were pressured during the quarter primarily due to a higher medical benefit ratio at Oak Street Health. These pressures were partially offset by another quarter of solid performance in Signify Health, driven by continued strong volumes. Our pharmacy and consumer wellness segment delivered another strong quarter as our focus on operational excellence and technological enhancements continues to enable us to deliver superior experiences for our customers. During the quarter, we generated revenues of over $33 billion, an increase of over 12% versus the prior year quarter and over 15% on a same-store basis.
This increase was primarily driven by patient growth at Oak Street and increased volumes that signify.
During the quarter, we continued to expand the number of patients served at Oak Street and ended the quarter with total at-risk membership up 31% from the same period last year.
Results in our Healthcare delivery business were pressured during the quarter primarily due to a higher medical benefit ratio at Oak Street Health.
These pressures were partially offset by another quarter of solid performance and signify driven by continued strong volumes.
Our Pharmacy and consumer Wellness segment delivered, another strong quarter as our focus on operational, excellence and technological. Enhancements. Continues to enable us to deliver Superior experiences for our customers.
Brian Newman: These increases were primarily driven by pharmacy drug mix and increased prescription and front-store volume, including some early impact from the acquisition of a portion of Rite Aid scripts, partially offset by continued pharmacy reimbursement pressure. Retail pharmacy script share in the quarter grew to approximately 27.8%, an increase of approximately 60 basis points from the same period last year. Same-store pharmacy sales in the quarter grew over 18% compared to the prior year, and same-store prescription volumes increased over 6%. Same-store front-store sales increased over 3% versus the prior year quarter, primarily driven by higher volumes as well as the timing of the Easter holiday, which contributed roughly one percentage point. Adjusted operating income increased nearly 8% from the prior year to over $1.3 billion, primarily driven by increased prescription and front-store volume, partially offset by continued pharmacy reimbursement pressure. Turning now to cash flow and the balance sheet.
During the quarter, we generated revenues of over 33 billion dollars an increase of over 12% versus the prior year quarter and over 15% on a same store basis.
These increases were primarily driven by pharmacy, drug mix, and increased prescription and front door volume, including some early impact from the acquisition of a portion of Rite Aid. Scripts were partially offset by continued pharmacy reimbursement pressure.
Retail Pharmacy, script share in the quarter through to approximately 27.8%. An increase of approximately 60 basis points from the same period last year.
Same-store pharmacy sales in the quarter grew over 18% compared to the prior year, and same-store prescription volumes increased over 6%.
Same store front store sales increased over 3% versus the prior year quarter, primarily driven by higher volumes, as well as the timing of the Easter holiday, which contributed roughly 1 percentage point.
Adjusted operating income increased nearly 8% from the prior year to over 1.3 billion dollars, primarily driven by increased prescription and front store volume, partially offset by continued. Pharmacy, reimbursement, pressure,
Turning now to cash flow and the balance sheet.
Brian Newman: We generated cash flows from operations of approximately $6.5 billion in the first half of the year. We have distributed approximately $1.7 billion in dividends to our shareholders year to date, and we ended the quarter with approximately $2.4 billion of cash at the parent and unrestricted subsidiaries. While our leverage ratio remains above our long-term targets, it has improved meaningfully since year-end 2024, and we remain pleased by our progress. We continue to expect our leverage ratio to return to more normalized levels as we maintain disciplined financial policies and make progress on margin recovery in the Aetna business. CVS Health's strong cash flow generation has been an important strength for the enterprise, which I will look to build upon by seeking opportunities to drive greater efficiency in working capital.
We generated cash flows from operations of approximately $6.5 billion in the first half of the year.
We have desri distributed, approximately 1.7 billion dollars in dividends to our shareholders year to date, and we ended the quarter with approximately 2.4 billion dollars of cash at the parent and unrestricted. Subsidiaries
While our leverage ratio remains above our long-term targets, it has improved meaningfully since year-end 2024, and we remain pleased by our progress.
We continue to expect our leverage ratio to return to more normalized levels. As we maintain disciplined Financial policies, and make progress on margin recovery in the Edna business.
CVS Health's strong cash flow generation has been an important strength for the enterprise, which I will look to build upon by seeking opportunities to drive greater efficiency in working capital.
Brian Newman: As I step into this role, I will ensure that we maintain a disciplined and balanced approach to capital deployment. This is critical as we continue to strengthen our balance sheet and make progress towards our leverage target. Shifting now to our revised outlook for 2025. We are increasing our full-year 2025 guidance for adjusted EPS to a range of $6.30 to $6.40. This update incorporates our second quarter performance while maintaining a prudent outlook on medical cost trends and macro factors for the remainder of the year. We now expect full-year total revenues of at least $391.5 billion, an increase of approximately $9 billion, driven by increases across all segments. In our healthcare benefit segment, we now expect full-year adjusted operating income of approximately $2.42 billion at the low end of our guidance range.
As I step into this role, I will ensure that we maintain a disciplined and balanced approach to capital deployment.
This is critical as we continue to strengthen our balance sheet and make progress towards our leverage Target.
Shifting now to our revised outlook for 2025, we are increasing our full-year 2025 guidance for adjusted EPS to a range of $6.30 to $6.40.
This update incorporates our second-quarter performance while maintaining a prudent outlook on medical costs, trends, and macro factors for the remainder of the year.
We now expect full year, total revenues of, at least 391.5 billion an increase of approximately 9 billion driven by increases across all segments.
Brian Newman: This reflects an increase of approximately $500 million, primarily driven by the final 2024 risk adjustment update for our individual exchange business and the favorable impact of the prior year reserve development that we experienced in the second quarter. We now project our full-year 2025 medical benefit ratio at the low end of our healthcare benefits adjusted operating income guidance range to be approximately 91%. This guidance continues to reflect the deliberate actions we took to improve our operations in the Aetna business. While medical cost trends remain elevated versus historical periods, in aggregate, they are generally in line to slightly better than our expectations so far this year. Given this elevated trend environment, we are maintaining a prudent view on medical cost trends through the remainder of the year.
In our Healthcare benefits segment, we now expect full-year adjusted operating income of approximately $2.42 billion at the low end of our guidance range.
This reflects an increase of approximately $500 million.
Primarily driven by the final 2024 risk adjustment update for our individual exchange business and the favorable impact of the prior year, as well as the reserve development that we experienced in the second quarter.
We now project our full year 2025 medical benefit ratio at the low end of our Healthcare benefits. Adjusted operating income guidance range to be approximately 91%
This guidance continues to reflect the deliberate actions we took to improve our operations in the Ed, the business.
They are generally in line to slightly better than our expectations so far this year.
Given this elevated trend environment, we are maintaining a prudent view on medical cost trends through the remainder of the year.
Brian Newman: The high end of our healthcare benefits guidance reflects a 50 basis point improvement in medical cost trend over the remainder of the year, which is worth approximately $0.10 in enterprise adjusted EPS. Our medical membership guidance remains unchanged. In our health services segment, we now expect full-year adjusted operating income of at least $7.34 billion, a decrease of approximately $200 million from our prior guidance. This update is entirely driven by our healthcare delivery business as a result of a higher medical benefit ratio at Oak Street Health. Our clients continue to see the tremendous value proposition of our pharmacy services businesses, including Caremark. The outlook for our pharmacy services business within our health services segment remains unchanged. Finally, in our pharmacy and consumer wellness segment, we now expect full-year adjusted operating income of at least $5.68 billion, an increase of approximately $200 million from our prior guidance.
The high end of our Healthcare benefits guidance. Reflects a 50 basis, point Improvement in medical cost Trend over the remainder of the year, which is worth approximately 10 cents in Enterprise adjusted eps.
Our medical membership guidance remains unchanged.
In our health services segment, we now expect full-year adjusted operating income of at least $7.34 billion, a decrease of approximately $200 million from our prior guidance.
This update is entirely driven by our Healthcare delivery business as a result of a higher medical benefit ratio at Oak Street.
Our clients continue to see the tremendous value proposition of our Pharmacy, Services businesses including care. Mark.
The outlook for our Pharmacy Services business within our health services segment remains unchanged.
Brian Newman: This increase reflects our strong first-half performance while continuing to maintain our prudent outlook for potential changes in vaccine market demand and the consumer environment. We are pleased with our transition to CVS cost advantage, which continues to track in line with our expectations. Altogether, we now expect full-year enterprise adjusted operating income to be in a range of $13.77 billion to $13.94 billion. We are also revising our expectations for full-year cash flow from operations to at least $7.5 billion. You can find additional details on the components of our 2025 guidance on our investor relations website. Overall, we are encouraged by our performance.
Finally, in our Pharmacy and Consumer Wellness segment, we now expect full year adjusted operating income of at least $5.68 billion, an increase of approximately $100 billion from our prior guidance.
This increase reflects our strong first half performance while continuing to maintain our prudent outlook for potential changes in the vaccine market, demand, and the consumer environment.
We are pleased with our transition to CVS cost Vantage which continues to track in-line with our expectations.
Altogether. We now expect full year Enterprise. Adjusted operating income to be in a range of 13.77 billion to 13.94 billion.
Or also revising our expectations for full year cash flow from operations to at least 7.5 billion dollars.
You can find additional details on the components of our 2025 guidance on our investor relations website.
Brian Newman: For another consecutive quarter, we are delivering on our commitments and continue to demonstrate clear progress on our path to achieving the embedded earnings power of CVS Health. I am confident we will continue building on our momentum as we will aspire to become America's most trusted healthcare company while simultaneously generating value for you, our shareholders. With that, we will now open the call to your questions. Operator?
Overall, we are encouraged by our performance for another consecutive quarter. We're delivering on our commitments and continue to demonstrate clear progress on our path to achieving the embedded earnings power of CVS health,
I'm confident we will continue building on our momentum as we will aspire to become America's most trusted Healthcare company while simultaneously generating value for you, our shareholders
With that, we will now open the call to your questions, operator.
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Lisa Gill: Great. Good morning, and congratulations on the results. Welcome, Brian. I look forward to meeting you. Obviously, Q2 strong performance and HCB at 40%, $600 million beat on the core side by our numbers. Underlying assumptions and visibility, when we think about how that looks post the quarter and the guidance that you have given, there is a lot of moving parts here. Can you maybe just talk about the level of visibility you have, what some of the underlying assumptions are, your level of conviction moving into the back half of the year?
Great, good morning, and congratulations on the results. Um, and welcome, Brian. I look forward to to meeting you, um, obviously, Q2 strong performance and HCB at 40%. 600 million dollar beat on the core Side by our numbers, um, underlying assumptions and visibility. You know, when we think about how that looks posts the quarter and the guidance that you've given, there's a lot of moving Parts here. Can you maybe just talk about the level of visibility you have with some of the underlying assumptions are um your level of conviction uh moving into to the back half of the year?
Prem Shah: Yeah, thanks, Lisa, and I appreciate the question. Before I turn it over to Brian, let me just make a couple of high-level comments about the Aetna business. One is we know this has been one of the top priorities of the enterprise. It has been an enterprise focus on the multi-year recovery, and I am really pleased with the progress to date. We will share some color on the back half of the year as well. One of the things I think is equally as important is the innovation that Aetna is driving. So while they are focusing on the recovery, they are equally focused on driving innovation, simplifying healthcare. You have seen this in the work we have done with the prior authorizations, with the bundled PA process, as well as the new care path and technology that we are rolling out.
Yeah, thanks, uh, thanks Lisa. I appreciate the, uh, appreciate the question. Before I turn it over to Brian, let me just make a couple of high-level comments about the AT&T business. One is...
Um we know this has been 1 of the top priorities of the Enterprise. It's been an Enterprise focus on the multi-year recovery. Um and I really pleased with the uh with the progress to date and we'll share some color on the um on the back half of the year as well.
Prem Shah: So I am really bullish on the progress that Aetna is making. I will turn it over to Brian to give some of the financial details, and I am going to have Steve provide some color more broadly on the Aetna business. Brian.
Brian Newman: Thanks, David, and good morning, Lisa. Thanks for the question. In terms of HCB, it was the second consecutive quarter of strong results. We saw our earnings grow by $370 million year over year, so a good quarter. As David mentioned, encouraged by the performance across our HCB businesses. The notable exception, Lisa, is our group Medicare Advantage business, which continued to be pressured. The medical cost trends, I would say, across all lines of business remained elevated, but they were modestly favorable in aggregate. There was some impact in the quarter, though, from one-timers that I call out for you. One, there was a favorable risk adjustment of about $300 million related to the 2024 plan year. Additionally, we had some favorable net PYD. Those two were largely offset or largely offset the impact of our group MA PDR, which came in at $470 million.
Brian Newman: If you strip out those underlying items, the HCB business beat by about half a billion in the quarter, which is a strong performance. The beat itself was primarily driven by Medicare, particularly from individual Medicare, and the two components were Part D and supplementals. I would just remind you, as we're thinking about the back end of the year, Part D continues to track modestly ahead of expectations, but we're maintaining a cautious outlook until we have more experience given the changes in the planned liability from the IRA. Steve, maybe I'll turn it over to you for some more color.
A more broadly on, on the Aetna business, right? Thanks David. And, uh, good morning Lisa. Thanks for the question in terms of HCB. It was the second consecutive quarter of a strong results. Uh, we saw our earnings grow by 370 million year-over-year. So a good quarter. Uh, as David mentioned, uh, encouraged by the performance across our HCB businesses. The notable exception, Lisa is our group, Medicare Advantage business, which continued to be pressured. The medical cost Trends. I would say across all lines of business remained elevated, but, uh, they were modestly favorable in aggregate the uh, there there were some impact in the quarter though, from 1 timers that I call out for you 1. There was a favorable risk adjustment of about $300 million related to 2024 plan year. Additionally, we had some favorable, net pyd. Those 2 were largely offset or largely offset the impact of our group, mapd, which came in at 470 million and if you strip out those underlying items, uh, the HCB business beat by about half a billion in the quarter, which was a strong performance.
I'll turn it over to you for some more color.
Sure. Thanks, Brian.
Steve Nelson: Sure. Thanks, Brian, and good morning, Lisa. Thanks for your question. I will provide maybe a few high-level comments about Aetna overall and then get into some specifics relative to each line of business. Our priorities, as Brian stated, David said in his prepared remarks, remain absolutely unchanged. We are focused on returning Aetna to its target margins and, frankly, a leadership position in the industry. I am really encouraged by the strong progress in the quarter and the first half of the year in totality. While it is early, it is a multi-year journey here, and all respect to the environment that we are in, I am very, very encouraged how the quarter is playing out. There are many drivers of that progress, and maybe I will highlight just a few. One is the Medicare business, which I will come back to, as Brian mentioned.
Good morning, Lisa Thanks for the question.
So I'll provide a few high level comments about Aetna overall, and then get into some specifics relative to the line of business each line of business.
Our priorities as well.
Brian stated David said in his prepared remarks remains absolutely unchanged for focus on returning aetna to its target margins in and frankly.
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Im really encouraged by the strong progress in the quarter and the first half of the year.
In totality and and while it's early it's a multiyear journey here.
And I'll respect to the environment that we're in very very encouraged.
The quarter is playing out.
There's many drivers of that progress and maybe I'll highlight just a few.
One is the Medicare business, which I'll come I'll come back to as Brian mentioned, but also we've significantly strengthened our our operations and our fundamental capabilities, which allows us to have better insight into our trends and then actually build to take take action against those trends.
Steve Nelson: We have also significantly strengthened our operations and our fundamental capabilities, which allows us to have better insight into our trends and then actually be able to take action against those trends. So I am very happy with how we have improved operations and just our fundamental capabilities. We have increased management rigor overall. We remain incredibly disciplined, whether it comes to pricing or just how we think about the business overall relative to our clear priority. We have developed a culture of relentless execution and focus. That is all playing out nicely and I am really encouraged by those results.
So.
I'm very happy with how we've improved the operations and just a fundamental capabilities and then we have increased management rigor overall.
We remain incredibly disciplined when it comes to pricing.
Or just how we think about the business overall.
Relative to our our clear priority.
And we've developed a culture of relentless execution and focus and so that's all playing out nicely and really encouraged by those results I also.
Steve Nelson: I am also very proud of the management team and our colleagues. We have added, we have strengthened our management team, and I really appreciate how the leadership and our colleagues have come together and just really pouring everything they have into serving our members, partnering with the providers in increasingly innovative and distinctive ways, as David mentioned. Relative to Medicare specifically, there are several key points I would like to make that have contributed to the progress of that business and the year-to-year improvement. One is we have really strong STARS for payment year 2025. That is a result of returning to a leadership position in STARS as our enterprise has focused on STARS and brought the unique and diverse set of capabilities to impact STARS. That has contributed nicely to the year-over-year improvement and progress.
I'm very proud of the management team and our colleagues we've added.
Strengthen our management team and I really appreciate how the leadership and our colleagues have come together and just really pouring everything they have into serving our members pardon me with their providers and increasingly.
Innovative and distinctive ways is as David mentioned.
Relative to Medicare specifically.
There are several key points I'd like to make that have contributed to the progress of that business.
And the year to year improvement. One is we have really strong stars for payment year 2025, and that's a result of returning to a leadership position in stars as as our.
Enterprise is focused.
On stars and brought the unique and diverse set of capabilities to two impacts stars and so that that has contributed nicely to the year over year.
Improvement.
And progress also the moves that we made not only in the bids during AEP to rationalize the products and geographies. So we had.
Steve Nelson: Also, the moves that we made, not only in the bids, but during AEP, to rationalize the products and geographies. We had an optimal mix of membership, and that is playing out again nicely as we think about the moves we made during AEP. Lastly, I am really pleased with the execution and the insights around trend, understanding it, then mitigating it, honestly, to the extent that we can, where we have opportunities to do that. The PDP product, as Brian mentioned, is performing well in addition to that. Individual Medicare business has shown a lot of progress and very encouraged by that. The group business, as Brian mentioned, we have seen pressure there. As we approach 2026, the good news is half that business is up for renewal, and we are taking a very disciplined approach to renewing that business. We are getting some traction there.
Optimal mix of membership and that is playing out again nicely as we as we think about the moves we've made during AEP and then lastly, we've I'm really pleased with the execution and the insights around trend understanding it and then mitigating honestly to the extent that we can where we have opportunities to do that.
So and then the PDP.
Product as Brian mentioned is performing well in addition to that so individual Medicare.
Businesses have shown a lot of progress and very encouraged by that the group business as Brian mentioned, we did we have seen pressure there.
But as we approach 2026, the good news is.
Half that business is up for renewal and we're taking a very disciplined approach to renewing that business.
And we're getting some traction there.
Steve Nelson: I really see the entire Medicare business coming together and continuing the momentum through the back half of the year and into 2026 as we think about returning that business to target margin. In terms of Medicaid, that business is also in line with our expectations. Despite the higher trend we see, it is in line with our expectations. Frankly, the execution around our rate advocacy has been really strong. We have seen good engagement with our state partners. That is again tracking to our expectations, including the higher acuity that we have seen. IFP, we have talked about, took a PDR earlier in the year, elevated trends, but that is incorporated in our outlook. I just want to give you a quick update on the exit.
And really.
See the entire Medicare business coming together.
And continuing the momentum through the back half of year end.
Into 2026, as we think about returning that business to target margin and.
In terms of Medicaid that business is also in line with our expectations. Despite the higher trend. We see it is in line with our expectations and then frankly the execution around our rate advocacy has been.
Really strong we've seen.
Good engagement with our state partners and that's.
And tracking to our expectations, including the higher higher acuity there we've seen.
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Elevated trends, but that's incorporated.
In our outlook, but I just wanted to give you a quick update on the exit.
Steve Nelson: As we wind down that business, that is going really well. We have had very positive conversations with our states. We have notified all our members. We continue to provide coverage for them, and we will focus on that. We are exiting that business, and that wind-down is going really well. Last, I will just finish by saying our commercial business is strong. We have seen some really nice wins in our self-insured across public and labor, national accounts, and our maritime business. Fully insured, we do see elevated trends. We saw that early. We took a disciplined pricing approach to that in 2025, which has pressured membership, but we are going to stay disciplined in our pricing approach to fully insured. Overall, commercial business is strong, and it is a platform for innovation. That is resonating really well with our very sophisticated and demanding clients.
So as we wind down that that business. That's that's going really well we've had very positive conversations with our states. We've notified all of our members. We continue to provide coverage for them and we will focus on that but where we're exiting that business and that wind down is going really well and last I'll just.
Finished by saying our commercial business is strong.
We've seen some really nice wins in our self insured across public and labor national accounts on our Maritain business fully insured we do see elevated trends we saw that early.
Our disciplined pricing approach to that in 2025, which is pressured membership, but we're gonna stay disciplined in our pricing approach to fully insured.
Overall commercial business strong and it is a platform for innovation and that's resonating really well with our with our very sophisticated and demanding clients. So really really pleased with absolute overall.
Steve Nelson: We are very pleased with that. Overall, it's early, a lot of respect for the environment that we're in, but very encouraged about the progress, and not just for the quarter, but the foundation that we're laying as we think about the back half of 2025 and also heading into 2026 and beyond.
It's early latter specs for the environment that we're in.
But very encouraged about the progress not just for the quarter, but the foundation that remain as we think about the back half of 'twenty five and also heading into 'twenty six and beyond.
Yeah.
Our next question will come from Justin Lake with Wolfe Research you May now.
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Thanks, Good morning wanted to get your early view on 2026 headwinds of tail winds.
Justin Lake: Thanks. Good morning. I wanted to get your early view on 2026 headwinds and tailwinds, specifically your thoughts on expectations for continued improvement in MA margins post your putting in your 2026 bids, your thoughts on the sustainability of outperformance and share gains in the pharmacy business versus your long-term expectation of mid-single-digit OI declines, and then lastly, potential for improvement in the value-based care business versus current losses. Thanks.
Specifically your thoughts on expectations for continued improvement in MA margins post you're putting in your 2026 beds.
So the sustainability of our performance and share gains in our pharmacy business versus your long term expectation of mid single digit Oi declines and then lastly, a potential for improvement in the value based care business versus current losses.
Yes, Justin Thanks, Thanks for the question I think.
Prem Shah: Yeah, Justin, thanks for the question. I think we're early yet in terms of forecasting or giving guidance on 2026. At this time, I think there's obviously strength in 2025. We feel good about the progress that we're making, and the plan is to, by end of year, give you more perspectives and insights in terms of how we're looking at 2026.
We're early yet in terms of forecasting or giving guidance on 26. So at this time I think there's obviously strength in 'twenty five we feel good about the progress that we're making and the plan is is to it by end of year.
To give you more perspective and insights in terms of how we're how we're looking at at 26.
Our next question will come from Stephen Baxter with Wells Fargo, you May now.
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Hi, Thanks.
Lisa Gill: Hi, thanks. I just wanted to check in on the group Medicare Advantage margins. I was wondering where this PDR places margins for the business in 2025. Appreciating the commentary on repricing, can you remind us when you are repricing group Medicare Advantage, are you expecting to get all the way back to target margins for that 50% cohort in a single cycle, or does it take longer than that due to the magnitude of dislocation? Thank you.
Wanted to check in on the group MA margins I was wondering where this PDR places margins for the business in 2025, and then I. Appreciate the commentary on repricing just can you remind us when you're repricing group MA are you expecting to get all the way back to your target margins for that 50% cohort in a single cycle or does it take longer than that even the mag.
You can see the dislocation thank you.
So Steve I'll, let you take that Okay morning, Stephen Steve Nelson.
Prem Shah: Well, Steve, I will let you take that.
Steve Nelson: Okay. Good morning, Stephen. Steve Nelson, I think that specifically in regard to your question around group MA and the renewal process and how that plays out, these contracts are typically three to five-year contracts. We are taking a very disciplined approach to renewing the business, also as we consider new business, and we are contemplating the elevated trends as we go through that process with them. It typically, as with any of these businesses, the absolute objective is to write the business so it achieves target margin, but sometimes it takes more than one cycle to get there. That is how we think about it. Actually, very optimistic, I would say, about that business. It plays an important role in our enterprise, the commercial business synergy across with our Caremark business.
I think that.
Specifically regards to your question around group MA and the renewal process and how that plays out.
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These contracts are typically three to five year contracts and so.
We are taking a very disciplined approach to renewing the business also as we consider new business and we are contemplating the elevated trends as we go through that process with them.
So it typically as with any of these businesses.
The absolute objective is to write the business. So it achieves target margin, but sometimes it takes more than one cycle to get there. So that's how we think about it and actually very.
Optimistic I would say about that business. It plays an important role in our enterprise the commercial business synergy across with our with our caremark business. So it's an important piece of business and we take it serious and it serves are these really important clients and an important unique way so.
Steve Nelson: It is an important piece of business, and we take it serious, and it serves these really important clients in an important, unique way. But it needs to perform at target margins, so we certainly take that into account as we think about it.
But it needs to perform at target margins. So we certainly take that into account as we think about it.
Yeah.
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George Hill: Can you hear me now? I apologize. New to the format here. Brian, welcome to the call. My question was about the outlook. Good to have you. My outlook was about the pharmacy segment outlook for the back half of the year. Maybe could you break out if there is any changes in the vaccine outlook, talk about the impact of reimbursement stabilization, and maybe the impact of the Rite Aid file buys. Are there any other moving pieces we should consider? Should we think about this performance as sustainable? Thanks.
Can you hear me now I apologize near to the format here and Brian welcome to the call.
Mike you talked about the outlook.
Good to have you my outlook was about the pharmacy segment outlook for the back half of the year, maybe could you break out if theres any changes in the vaccine outlook I'll talk about the impact of reimbursement stabilization and maybe the impact of the writing file buys and are there any other moving pieces, we should consider and kind of should we think about this performance is sustainable. Thanks.
So from a.
Brian Newman: From a guide perspective, Prem, do you want to talk about the business and then I'll talk about the numbers?
The guide perspective, Prem do you want talk about the business and I'll talk about the numbers.
Prem Shah: Yeah, sure. Thanks for the question. First off, really strong performance in our PCW business, and we continue to be focused on the strategy we laid out at Investor Day a few years ago. If you think about what we've done, we've focused on strong service levels in our business, and we continue to be America's leading pharmacy and community destination for pharmacy because of that strong execution and the consumer trust we've been able to gain with our 200,000-plus colleagues that we have. Our results reflect our strength. If you think about our top line growth of 12.5% and AOI increase of about 7.6% in the quarter, it's reflective of where we've been focused. On the pharmacy side of that business, we saw a strong script comp growth of around 6.5%, and that's primarily driven by a few factors.
Yeah sure. So thanks for the question so first off.
Really strong performance in RPC W business, and we continue to be focused on the strategy we laid out.
At our Investor day, a few years ago and so if you think about what we've done we've focused on strong service levels in our business and we continue to be America's leading pharmacy and community destination for pharmacy because of that strong execution and the consumer trust, we've been able to gain without 200000 plus colleagues that we have.
Our results reflect our strength if you think about our top line growth of 12, 5% an increase of about seven 6% in the quarter is reflective of where we've been focused on the pharmacy side of that business. We saw strong script comp growth of around six 5% and that's primarily driven by a few factors one is the innovation and our continued.
Prem Shah: One is the innovation and our continuing strong service levels, but also from the market disruption we've seen from other pharmacies closing. Lastly, CVS Health's cost advantage, we're proud to say, as we've said on prior calls, that we've delivered it into the commercial marketplace. All of our contracts are on cost advantage, and they're performing in line with our expectations. As we've seen in this quarter in front store, we continue to improve as we grow our customer base for market disruption, as well as our retail share gains. This is all really kind of part of our long-term strategy. Lastly, all of this is powered by our technology advancements and our strong operating model we have underlying this business to really focus on consumers and driving their needs in the 9,000-plus local community destinations we have.
Strong service levels, but also from the market disruption we've seen from other pharmacies close.
And lastly, you know.
Cvs cost vantage are proud to say as we've said on prior calls that we have delivered into the commercial marketplace. All of our contracts are on cost advantage and they are performing in line with our expectations and then.
As we said before as we've seen in this quarter and front store, we continue to improve as we grow our customer base from market disruption as well as our retail share gains. So this is all really.
Part of our long term strategy, but lastly, all of this is powered by our technology advancements and our strong operating model. We have underlying this business to really focus on consumers and driving their needs in the 9000, plus local community definitions yet so maybe I'll just comment on on the guide is a follow up to <unk> comments.
Brian Newman: So maybe I will just comment on the guide as a follow-up to Prem's comments. As he mentioned, the strong volumes are impressive with the strong script growth of 6.5% and the strong front store sales of 3.5%, albeit some of the front store sales, as we look at the modeling, 1% of that was due to the Easter holiday. But net-net, very encouraged to see it flowing through. We started the year with a guide of down 5. We are now at about down 1.6. Keep in mind that the business has been pressured for some time, well over a decade if you pull out the COVID. So I would say from a guide perspective, taking a cautious stance on the consumer dynamics and spending piece, and we will continue to watch immunizations as they remain dynamic and think about the potential for lower market demand in that business.
As he mentioned the strong volumes impressive with the strong script growth six and a half a percent and a strong front store sales of three and a half.
Albeit some of the front store sales as we look at the modeling of 1% of that was due to the Easter holiday, but net net very encouraged to see it flowing through we started the year with a guide of down five we're now at about down one six keep.
Keep in mind that the business has been pressured for some time well over a decade, if you pull out the COVID-19. So I would say from a guide perspective, taking a cautious stance on the consumer dynamics in spending piece.
And then we will continue to watch immunizations as they remain dynamic and think about the potential for lower market demand in that business.
Prem Shah: This has been a multi-year effort. The results are not by accident. We have focused, as Prem said, on building out the technology to make the pharmacies more efficient and work better for our colleagues and work better for the members that we are serving. I could not be happier with the innovation and the progress that we are making and feel really excited about welcoming the new Rite Aid customers in the back half of the year.
And maybe just one addition, or the top here. This has been a multi year effort. So the results is not by accident rebound, we focus as Prem said.
On building out the technology to make the pharmacies more efficient and work better for our colleagues and work better for the members that are that we're serving so I couldnt be happier with the innovation and the progress that we're making and feel really excited about welcoming the new rite aid customers that in the back half of the year.
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Hi, guys. Good morning, welcome Brian Thanks, so much for that question.
Elizabeth Anderson: Hi, guys. Good morning. Welcome, Brian. Thanks so much for the question. You know, maybe following up on that a little bit, as we think about what you said in terms of moving cost advantage into the government business next year, maybe there's potentially some 340B impact. How do we think about the sort of reimbursement landscape as it stands now for 2026? Do you think you can sort of see generally flat reimbursement, like all else equal, or sort of other puts or takes to think about as we're at this point, which obviously is still on the early side?
Maybe following up on that a little bit as we think about what you said in terms of moving cost in edge and to the government business next year I mean, maybe there's potentially some <unk> impact how do we think about that sort of reimbursement landscape like as it stands now for 2026 do you think you can sort of.
She is generally flat reimbursement like all else equal.
So there's other puts and takes to think about as we're at this point, which obviously is still on the early side.
Prem Shah: Hi, Prem. Yeah, thanks, Elizabeth, for the question. Just a little bit of background on CVS cost advantage, to remind folks again, we started this process to really solve a few things. One is we wanted to get a sustainable, durable pharmacy model that shifted reimbursement to align more closely with the underlying cost of the business and the underlying cost of the drug. One of the challenges this industry has faced over the last decade is the cross-subsidization that existed across scripts. Cost advantage brings a more stable environment, gives more predictability to payers, allows them to get greater transparency, and provides that value to them sooner in a much more transparent way. To answer your question, where are we today in 2025? As we said, it was a transition year. We were deliberate.
Hi, Prem, yes, thanks Elisabeth for the question and just a little bit background on Cvs costs can you just remind folks again.
We started this process to really solve a few things one is if.
If you wanted to get a sustainable durable pharmacy model that shifted reimbursement to align more closely with the underlying cost of the business and the underlying cost of the drug and you know one of the challenges. This industry has faced over the last decade is the cross subsidization that existed across script. So what <unk> does is it brings a more stable.
Environment gives more predictability to payers allows them to get greater transparency and provide that value to them sooner and a much more transparent way and so you know to answer your question wherever you're today in 2025, as we said it was a transition year, we will deliver it and we work very closely with all the payers to transition the commercial business onto our.
Prem Shah: We worked very closely with all of the payers to transition the commercial business onto our cost advantage program. As we look out to next year, we're continuing to focus on our government programs and to move them as well into these cost-based models as we go forward. We feel good about where we are as it relates to that transition. As we said prior, over time, we expect that the reimbursement erosion, which was one of the primary headwinds that we faced in the retail pharmacy business, will equal the cost of goods improvement to drive a more sustainable and durable marketplace. We continue to make progress against that. Over mid-year, we do these contract negotiations throughout the year for payers, and we'll update you at a later time.
Cost managed program as you look out to next year continue to focus on our government programs and to move them as well into these cost based models as we go forward. We feel good about where we are as it relates to that transition and as we said prior over time, we expect that the reimbursement erosion, which was one of the primary headwinds that we faced in the retail.
Pharmacy business will equal the cost of goods improvement to drive a more sustainable and durable marketplace. So we continue to make progress against that.
Midyear, we do these contract negotiations throughout the year prepares and we'll update you at a later time, but we feel good about where we are with cost advantage and we feel good about the value that we're delivering to the payers across the country to create a more predictable model that can lower costs for them and their clients.
Prem Shah: We feel good about where we are with cost advantage, and we feel good about the value that we're delivering to the payers across the country to create a more predictable model that can lower costs for them and their clients. Elizabeth, maybe just one other thing in terms of the innovation that we're driving around the pricing model. This is not just being executed and delivered in the retail setting. The PBM Caremark is also driving new price models to remove the cross-subsidies and some of what I think is the inefficiencies in the pricing of the products today. I think if you have parallel paths and the market begins to move, you'll begin to see a more rational pricing structure across the market.
Yeah, and it wasn't as maybe just one other thing in terms of the innovation that we're driving around the pricing models. So this is not just being.
We executed and delivered and they're in the retail setting. The Pbms Caremark is also driving new price models to remove the cross subsidies and some of what I think is the inefficiencies in the pricing of the products. Today. So I think if you have parallel paths and used in a market begins to move you'll begin to see a more rational pricing.
Across the market.
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Hi, Good morning can you help reconcile your favorite all Medicare results.
Lisa Gill: Hi, good morning. Can you help reconcile your favorable Medicare results in the HCB segment with the unfavorable results you are seeing at Oak Street? Is the pressure coming more from internal or external MA members, and are there any benefits or cost categories you would call out as driving the elevated pressure in Oak Street? Thanks.
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Favorable results Youre seeing at bulk strength is the pressure coming more from internal or external MA members and are there any benefits or cost categories, you would call out as driving the elevated pressure and Oak Street. Thanks.
Yeah, Thanks, Andrew I think that.
Prem Shah: Thanks, Andrew. I think the first point is that they are different books. The acuity and/or the mix of members are very different across Aetna's larger book versus the concentrated, more higher-risk population inside of Oak Street. Let me maybe let Brian speak a little bit to the nuances between the two, and if I could have Prem speak more broadly to the Oak Street.
The first first point is that there are different books, so the the acuity and or the mix of members are very different.
That is larger book versus the concentrated more higher risk population inside of inside of Oak Street. So let me, maybe let Brian speak a little bit too to the nuances between the two and if I could have prem speak more broadly to the Oak Street, yes. Thanks, David.
Brian Newman: Yeah, thanks, David. We're seeing elevated trends across MA broadly, and I don't think there's a direct comparison between Aetna and the Oak Street book for a few reasons. One, as David started to mention, there's different populations. Aetna's large, more diverse from a member base. Oak Street is smaller, higher acuity. We also need to remember that Aetna members, they represent an increasing but still a minority of total patients at Oak. Not all health plans have pulled back on benefits in 2025 to the same extent that Steve and the Aetna team have done. As David mentioned, value-based care, it remains a critical component to our strategy, providing better experiences, better outcomes, lower costs. I think, Prem, you can talk to Oak Street's care model being best in class.
The elevated we're seeing elevated trends across the MA broadly and I don't think Theres, a direct comparison between Aetna and the Oak Street book for a few reasons one as David started to mentioned Theres different populations aetna's large more diverse from a member base Oak Street as smaller Skus higher acuity we.
We also need to remember that Aetna members, they represent an increasing but it's still a minority of total patients at oak and so not all health plans have pulled back on benefits in 25 to the same extent that it <unk>.
And yet the team have done so as David mentioned, our value based care.
It remains a critical component to our strategy, providing better experience is better outcomes lower cost and then.
And I think you can talk to Oak streets care model being best in class.
Prem Shah: Yeah, absolutely. So, as Brian and David said, we saw some pressure inside of our healthcare delivery business. That was driven by what I'd say in Oak Street, persistent elevated medical cost, the member mix that we had, and then the more robust benefit and supplemental benefit offerings that plans provided to their members. This was partially offset by strong performances at Signify, driven by in-home assessment volumes. If you look at Oak Street specifically, we're focused on addressing the market dynamics while strengthening the business and improving the financial performance over the short and long term. What I'd say is there's four areas that we're really focused on. One is we've put in place a strong leadership team with new leaders that have deep-rooted experience in value-based care and population health management.
Yeah, absolutely so.
As Brian and David said, we saw some pressure inside of our health care delivery business.
Driven by you know, what I'd say and Oak Street persistent elevated medical costs. The member mix that we had and then the more robust benefited supplemental benefit offerings that plants provided to their members and this was partially offset by strong performance as signified driven by in home assessment volumes. If you look at Oaktree, specifically, we're focused on addressed.
The market dynamics, while strengthening the business and improving the financial performance over the short and long term and what I'd say is there's a four areas that we're really focused on one is we've put in place a strong leadership team with new leaders that have deep rooted experience and value based care and population health management to we continue to look at the technology stack.
Prem Shah: Two, we continue to look at the technology stack and the operations to provide the leading clinical solution from a technology perspective for our business. We focused, that has to drive to better medical cost management. Oak Street was one of the best large-scale clinical programs out there for value-based care. We continue to look at how we're going to leverage our tech stack to drive that even further. Lastly, we're going to take a thoughtful approach to center expansion while prioritizing patient growth inside of those centers. From my perspective, we remain committed to value-based care. It's an important part of our healthcare system. We've been really intentional in our strategy to focus on assets with a proven track record like Oak Street in delivering improved quality and experience while managing costs.
And the operations to provide the leading.
Political solution from a technology perspective for our business and refocus that that has to drive to better medical cost management Oak Street was one of the best large scale clinical.
Clinical programs out there for value based care, we continue to look at how we're going to leverage our tech stack to drive that even further and then lastly, we're going to take a thoughtful approach to center expansion, while prioritizing patient growth inside of those centers and so from my perspective, we remain committed to value based care. It's an important part of our health care system, and we've been really intentional in our strategy to <unk>.
On assets with a proven track record like Oak Street, and delivering improved quality and experience while managing costs.
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Lisa Gill: Thank you. I'll stick with health services. Brian, a similar visibility question as you addressed on HCB earlier. It's proven harder to draw a line in the sand on delivery HBR. Can you speak to visibility at this point of the year and maybe how much of the $200 million headwind was first half versus expectation for any improvement in the second half? Then for the team, I know there's no change in pharmacy services, but could you speak to the customer price improvements? Are you seeing more cost to retain this high 90s retention level?
I'll stick with health services and Brian has similar visibility question as you addressed on HCV earlier, it's proven harder to draw a line in the sand on delivery HCR can you speak to the visibility at this point of the year and maybe how much of the 200 million headwind was first half versus expectation for.
Or any improvement in the second half and then for the team I know Theres no change in pharmacy services could you speak to the customer price improvements and are you seeing more cost to retain this high nineties retention level.
Sure Eric Thanks, very much for the question.
Brian Newman: Sure, Eric. Thanks very much for the question. As I mentioned in the prepared remarks, we are seeing pressure in HCD, specifically Oak. I think it is driven by the higher medical benefit ratio, and that is attributed to elevated medical costs, member mix, more robust benefit offerings. Some of that was offset by the solid performance of Signify, as Prem had mentioned a few minutes ago. As we think about the guidance reduction in the segment, it is all coming out of HCD. As we think about the revised expectations for the second half of the year, we think we have captured a trend.
As I mentioned in the prepared remarks, we are seeing pressure in hdds, specifically oak and I think it's driven by the the higher medical benefit ratio.
And thats attributed to elevated medical costs number mix more robust benefit offerings.
As we think about some of that was offset by the solid performance of signify is prime had mentioned a few minutes ago, but as we think about the guidance reduction in the segment.
It's all coming out of HCV and as we think about the.
The revised expectations for the second half of the year, we think we've captured.
Trend and as I sit here today.
Brian Newman: As I sit here today, I would say HSS earnings distribution, as you look at the back half versus the front half, 2H is roughly evenly split between the two quarters from a cadence perspective, probably with a slight tilt towards Q4 from a profit perspective. Prem, did you want to?
Would say Hsn's earnings distribution as you look at the back half versus the versus the front half two H is roughly evenly split between the two quarters from up from a cadence perspective, probably with a slight tilt towards <unk> from a profit perspective.
Graham do you want to so many parameter you can speak a little bit to the selling season and how the pbms performing.
Prem Shah: Yeah, so maybe Prem, if you can speak a little bit to the selling season and how the PBM is performing? Yeah, thanks, Eric, for the question. We are really pleased with the strong start to the 2026 PBM selling season. Caremark continues to be well-positioned as the leader in the PBM in the marketplace. What I would say is we are continuing to be focused on driving what our clients value the most, which is making prescriptions and pharmacy costs more affordable and lowering the cost by increasing composition. On the kind of retention side, we are on track with where we normally are with our historical upper 90% retention rate. The PBM industry has always been competitive. We remain to have the same discipline we have always had in our pricing and in the marketplace.
Yeah. Thanks, Eric for the question. So we're really pleased with the strong start to the 2026 P. M. Selling season Caremark continues to be well positioned as the leader in the P. P. M in the marketplace and what I would say that are considered continue to be focused on driving our what our clients value. The most which is making our prescriptions in pharmacy costs, but more.
Portable and lowering the cost by increasing competition and on the kind of retention side. We're on track with where we normally are with our historical upper 90% retention rate and the BPM industry has always been competitive we remain to have the same discipline, we've always had in our pricing in the marketplace.
Prem Shah: What I would say is, as we talk to our customers and as we are out in the marketplace, what is really resonating is our approach, our transparency, and in the way in which we are continuing to create the competition. Some of those great examples are over the course of the last couple of years with, for example, we led the way in Cordette with Cordavis in the biosimilar marketplace. We are leading the way this year on 7/1 with the competition we have increased in the indication and weight loss on GLP-1. We continue to focus on what our clients need most, which is lowering the cost and making prescriptions more affordable in the country. From our perspective, it is resonating in the selling season. It is resonating in our retention rates.
What I'd say is as we've talked to our customers and as we're out in the marketplace. What's really resonating is our approach our transparency and in the way in which we are continuing to create the competition in some of those great. Examples are over the course of the last couple of years with for example, we led the way in <unk> and the Biosimilar marketplace and we're leading the way this.
Year on 71 with the.
The competition, we have increased and the indication and weight loss on G. L. P. One so we continue to focus on what our clients need bus, which is lowering the cost, making our prescriptions more affordable in the country and you know from our perspective, it's resonating in the selling season is resonating and our retention rates.
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Thanks, I'm, sorry, but your thoughts on the part D and <unk>.
Elizabeth Anderson: Great, thanks. I am curious about your thoughts on the Part B space and how that is playing out kind of relative to plan, how you think about kind of the demo and the CMS announcement more recently on that front, and how you are thinking about that into next year. Maybe we do not have enough visibility yet on that, but I want to see how that is playing out in terms of behaviors, in terms of utilization trends, and what you are seeing across Medicare Part D.
And how that's playing out kind of relative to plan. How you think about kind of at <unk> P.
In that financing and more recently on that front and how youre thinking about that into next year and maybe they don't have enough.
Sidoti yet on that but when you see how that's playing out in terms of behavior and then in terms of utilization trends and what youre seeing across Turkey.
Alright, Steve would you take that please sure. Thanks, good morning Aaron.
Prem Shah: All right, Steve, would you pick that, please?
Steve Nelson: Sure, thanks. Good morning, Erin. Our Medicare Part D plans are performing really well year to date. That is a result of some deliberate actions and decisions we made to position the product for the long term. We deliberately wanted to de-risk this with the shifts in the IRA, and some of the policy things has put more risk and more cost to the health plan. So we reduced our plan offerings, eliminated the enhanced plans. We just have one standard plan, and that has changed sort of the mix. We also made some design changes. Overall, in 2025, the business is performing well. As expected, that did have some membership implications. We think that will continue to play out a bit, but not as much as we lost in the first half of the year.
So as I mentioned earlier.
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Plans are performing really well year to date and as a result of some deliberate actions and decisions we made to position the product for the long term. So we deliberately wanted to derisk. This with the shifts in the in the IRA and some of the policy things is put.
More risk.
More cost to the health plan, so we reduced our plan offerings.
Eliminated the enhanced plans. So we just have one standard plan.
And that has changed or the mix and then we also made some design changes. So overall twenty-five the business is performing well.
But as I expected that that did have some.
Membership implications. So we can we think that will continue to play out a bit but not as not as much as as we lost in the first half of the year, but this is all with the eye towards returning our business to target margins in creating a sustainable product and so as we contemplated 2026, we took that same approach.
Steve Nelson: This is all with the eye towards returning our business to target margins and creating a sustainable product. As we contemplated 2026, we took that same approach. Our bids focused on ensuring a sustainable product for 2026 and beyond. We just got the guidance from CMS earlier this week. We are still digesting that. We really will not have more insight into that until we kind of get through our process. Obviously, the entire competitive landscape impacts how we think about it as well. So more to come there. Again, those products, Medicare Part D, are performing well for us. We are going to continue to make sure that we make decisions and to create that and continue that sustainability.
And our bids focused on ensuring a sustainable product for 2026 and beyond now we just got that the guidance from CMS earlier this week.
Still digesting that.
And we really wont have more insight into that until we kind of get through our process and obviously the entire competitive landscape impacts how we think about it as well so more to come there, but again.
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Those products are performing well for us and we're going to continue to make sure that we make decisions and to to create that and continue that sustainability.
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Hey, good morning.
Prem Shah: Hey, good morning. I'm proud of myself for understanding this new process. My question is, and I know this is a small part of the business, but the front-end part of the drug retail business has been a struggle for the industry for probably as long as I've been covering it, which is forever. I just wonder, as you kind of look through your business strategies, what are we doing differently? I am intrigued that you're back in the business of even buying drugstores. What's the long-term strategy to address sort of the competitive pressures and the competitive position of the front end? Thanks. Yeah, John, thanks for the question. Look, we have a very solid front-end business, and we've been focused on it with a very strong management team and been deliberate with how we're thinking about that business.
Todd and myself for this understanding this new process.
My question is.
And I know this is a small part of the business, but the front end part of the drug retail business has been a struggle for the industry for probably as long as I've been covering it which is forever I just wonder as you kind of look through Europe.
Yeah. Your business strategies, what are we doing differently and I am intrigued that you're back in the business of even buying drugstores, but what's what's the long term strategy to two.
To address sort of the competitive pressures and the competitive position of the front end.
Yes, John Thanks for the question, then and look we have a very solid front end business and we've been focused on it with a very strong management team and been deliberate with how we're thinking about that business. So as you saw in this quarter. We saw our trip com increased about two 7% from Hawaii and we continue to see.
Prem Shah: As you saw in this quarter, we saw our trip comp increase about 2.7% from LY. We continue to see retail share gains, which is new for this part of the business if you look at it over a longer duration of period. The strategy we have in place is, one, how do we create more value for consumers in the offerings that we have? How do we continue to work with our vendors to help reduce the cost so we can provide that value upfront? Then secondly, or I'd say thirdly, is how do we get more consumers and foot traffic into our stores and be there? We're benefiting from some of the, what I'd say, is adjacency to pharmacy as it relates to that, meaning that as we get more and more pharmacy patients, they utilize our front store services.
<unk> retail share gains, which is new for this part of the business. If you look at it over a longer duration of period. So the strategy. We have in place is one how do we create more value for consumers and the offerings that we have how do we continue to work with our vendors to help reduce the cost we can provide that value upfront and then secondly, I'd say thirdly is how do we get more consumers in.
Foot traffic into our stores and be there and so we're benefiting from some of the what I'd say is adjacency to pharmacy as it relates to that meaning that we will as we get more and more pharmacy patients. They utilize our front store services secondly, we've been focused on our.
Prem Shah: Second, we've been focused on our consumer, what I'd say, marketing efforts and other ways in which we're bringing those customers into our stores and continue to drive that value, the value price equation. I'm really impressed with the progress we're making on our front store. We continue to gain traction. The leadership team has been focused about this. You're right, John, we don't spend enough time on these calls on that, but it is an important part of our business and something we're really focused on. We've been very deliberate on how we turn that around into the future.
Consumer.
Say marketing efforts in other ways in which we're bringing those customers into our stores and continue to drive that value.
The value price equation, so I'm really impressed with the progress we're making on our front store, we continue to gain traction in the leadership team has been focused about this and you are right. John we don't spend enough time on these calls on that but it is an important part of our business and something that we're really focused on we've been very deliberate on how we turn that around over the over the internet.
Into the future.
Yeah.
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Prem Shah: Okay, so it looks like we're challenged with the last question. I think we're at close. As I think about before I end this call, I just want to thank the 300,000 dedicated colleagues for the work that they do every day. It's because of you, I'm confident in our future and our ability to become America's most trusted healthcare company. I also want to thank everyone for joining this call today. We're extremely excited about the progress and look forward to providing you additional updates. I also want to make an announcement that our plan is to have an Investor Day on December 9th and more details to follow. Thank you for the call today.
Were challenged with the last question, So I think where we're at close and.
As I think about before in this call I just want to thank the 300000 dedicated colleagues for the work that they do every day and it's because of you I'm.
I am confident in our future and our ability to become America's most trusted health care company.
Also want to thank everyone for joining this call today.
We're extremely excited about the progress and look forward to providing you additional updates.
And I also want to make an announcement that our plan is to have an investor day on December 9th and more details to follow so thank you for the call today.
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