Q2 2025 Third Coast Bancshares Inc Earnings Call

Operator: Welcome to the Third Coast Bank Shares Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation.

Greetings and welcome to the Third Coast Bank shares second quarter earnings conference call.

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Natalie Hairston: I will now turn the conference over to your host, Natalie Hairston. Please go ahead. Thank you, Operator, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us for Third Coast Bankshare's conference call and webcast to review our second quarter 2025 results.

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Natalie Hairston: With me today is Bart Caraway, Founder, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer, John McWhorter, Chief Financial Officer, and Audrey Spaulding, Chief Credit Officer.

Natalie Hairston: First, a few housekeeping items. There will be a replay of today's call, and it will be available by webcast on the Investors section of our website at ir.thirdcoast.bank. There will also be a telephonic replay available until July 31st, and more information on how to access these replay features was included in yesterday's earnings release. Please note that the information reported on this call speaks only as of today, July 24th, 2025, and therefore you are advised that any time-sensitive information may no longer be accurate as of the time of any replay, listening, or transcript reading.

Natalie harston: Thank you operator. And good morning everyone. We appreciate you joining us for a Third Coast Bank shares conference call and webcast to review our second quarter 2025 results with me. Today is Bart. Caraway founder chairman president and chief executive officer, John mcgard Chief Financial Officer, and Audrey, Spalding Chief credit officer.

Natalie harston: First a few housekeeping items. There will be a replay of today's call and it will be available by webcast on the investors section of our website at IR, Third Coast Bank, there will be a telephonic replay available until July 31st and more information on how to access these replay features was included in yesterday's earnings release.

Natalie Hairston: In addition, the comments made by management during this conference call may contain forward-looking statements within the meeting of the United States Federal Securities Law. These forward-looking statements reflect the current views of management. However, various risks, uncertainties, and contingencies could cause actual results, performance, or achievements to differ materially from those expressed in the statements made by management. The listener or reader is encouraged to read the annual report on Form 10-K that was filed on March 5, 2025, to better understand those risks, uncertainties, and contingencies.

Natalie harston: Please note that the information reported on this call speaks only as of today, July 24th 2025 and therefore you were advised that any time-sensitive information May no longer be accurate as of the time of any replay listening or transcript reading.

Natalie harston: in addition, the comments made by management during this conference,

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Natalie harston: 4 laws. These forward-looking statements reflect the current views of management. However, various risks uncertainties and contingencies could cause actual results, performance or achievements to differ materially from those expressed in the statements made by management.

Natalie Hairston: The comments made today will also include certain non-GAAP financial measures. Additional details and the reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures were included in yesterday's earnings release, which can be found on the Third Coast website.

Natalie harston: The Listener or reader is encouraged to read the annual report on form 10K that was filed on March 5th, 2025 to better understand those risks, and certainties and contingencies

Bart Caraway: Now, I would like to turn the call over to Third Coast founder, chairman, president, and CEO, Mr. Bart Caraway. Bart? Good morning, everyone, and thank you, Natalie. I'll start by sharing the company's profitability and growth highlights. Following my remarks, John will discuss the financials and Audrey will give a review of the credit quality.

Natalie harston: The comments made today will also include certain non-gaap Financial measures additional details in the reconciliation to the most directly comparable. Gaap, Financial measures were included in yesterday's earnings release which can be found on the Third Coast website.

Speaker Change: Now, I would like to turn the call over to Third Coast. Founder, chairman president and CEO Mr. BART, caroway BART.

Speaker Change: Good morning everyone and thank you, Natalie. I'll start by sharing the company's profitability and growth highlights.

Bart Caraway: Finally, I'll provide management's outlook for the remainder of 2025. To begin, I'm pleased to announce that we closed the second of our two securitization deals in this quarter. This not only proves up the viability of our securitization strategy in real market conditions, but also demonstrates our ability to replicate these transactions. This capability has become a competitive advantage, allowing us to meet the needs of select customers who choose our services over much larger organizations. Specifically, these transactions will reduce the bank's risk-weighted assets, lower construction concentrations, and mitigate credit risk in the loan portfolio.

Speaker Change: Following my, my remarks, John will discuss the financials, and Audrey will give a review of the credit quality. Finally, I'll provide Management's outlook for the remainder of 2025.

Speaker Change: To begin, I'm pleased to announce that we closed the second of our 2 secs in this quarter, this not only proves up the viability of our securitization strategy in real market conditions, but also demonstrates our ability to replicate these transactions.

Speaker Change: This capability.

Speaker Change: Has become a competitive Advantage, allowing us to meet the needs of Select customers, who choose our services over much. Larger organizations, specifically, these transactions will reduce the bank's risk, weighted assets,

Bart Caraway: Due to the uniqueness of the transaction, the bank has been nominated for North American Transaction of the Year and North American Issuer of the Year at the 2025 SCI Risk Sharing Award Ceremony to be held in London this fall. We continue to execute on our original business model and have made remarkable progress since our IPO in 2021. By hiring top talent, we have been able to leverage our balance sheet by consistently growing revenue at a faster pace than expense. For example, we have grown net interest income at a compound annual rate of 21.7%, while non-interest expenses increased at a more modest annualized rate of 10.7%.

Speaker Change: Lower construction, concentrations and mitigate credit risk in the loan portfolio.

Speaker Change: Due to the uniqueness of the transaction, the bank has been nominated for North American transaction of the year in North American issuer of the year at the 2025, SCI risk sharing awards ceremony to be held in London. This fall.

Speaker Change: We continue to execute on our original business model and have made remarkable progress since our IPO in 2021 by hiring top talent. We have been able to leverage, our balance sheet by consistently growing Revenue at a faster Pace than expenses.

Speaker Change: For example, we have grown net interest income at a compound annual rate of 21.7%.

Bart Caraway: This has resulted in strong shareholder value, with tangible book value per share increasing by $8.75 over the past three and a half years, reaching $29.69 as of June 30. Over the same periods, our return on average assets has steadily improved from just 55 basis points in 2021 to a top quartile of 1.38% in the second quarter of 2025. This performance demonstrates our ability to drive greater efficiency and profitability, though we still believe there is room for further improvement. Further, we continue to have top-tier loan growth and robust pipeline. Second quarter loans grew by $91.7 million, and since our public debut, our compound annual growth has been 21.1%, expanding from $2.07 billion in December 2021 to $4.08 billion in June 2025.

Speaker Change: While non-interest expenses increased at a more modest annualized rate of 10.7%.

Speaker Change: This has resulted in strong shareholder value, with tangible book, value per share, increasing by 8.75 over the past 3 and a half years, reaching $99.69, as of June 30th.

Speaker Change: Over the same periods. Our return on average assets has steadily improved from just 55 basis points in 2021

Speaker Change: To a top quartile of 1.38%. In the second quarter of 2025, this performance demonstrates our ability to drive greater efficiency and profitability though, we still believe there's room for further Improvement.

Speaker Change: Further.

Bart Caraway: All combined, this outsized progress is especially impressive given that we have maintained high credit standards and proven our ability to scale with quality. Our discipline management approach is further evidenced by the prudent governance of our investment portfolio, which compares favorably to peers. Our strategic use of hedging to predict our net interest margin and our continued success in attracting best-in-class talent.

Speaker Change: 91.7 million. And since our public debut, our compound annual growth has been 21.1% expanding from 2.07 billion in December. 21 2021 to 4.08 billion in June 2025.

Bart Caraway: Overall, Third Coast's performance in the second quarter not only exceeded expectations, but also surpassed previous company records, firmly placing us among top-performing banks. Time and time again, our team has consistently delivered exceptional results, which we believe positions us for long-term success and enables our company to create sustained value for our shareholders.

Speaker Change: All combined this outsized progress is especially impressive, given that we have maintained High credit standards, improving our ability to scale with quality. Our discipline management approach is further evident by The Prudent governance of our Investment Portfolio which compares favorably favorably to peers, our strategic use of hedging to protect our net interest margin and our continued success in attracting best-in-class Talent. Overall, Third Coast performance in the second quarter, not only exceeded expectations, but also surpassed previous company records. Firmly, placing us among top performing Banks.

Speaker Change: Time and time again, our team has consistently delivered exceptional results, which we believe positions us for long-term success and enables our company to create sustained.

John McWhorter: With that, I'll turn it over to John for the company's financial update. John? Thank you, Bart, and good morning everyone.

Speaker Change: Value for our shareholders with that, I'll turn it over to John for the company's Financial update. John

John McWhorter: We provided the detailed financial tables in yesterday's earnings release, so today I'll provide some additional color around select balance sheet and profitability metrics from the second. We reported second quarter net income of $15.6 million, up 25% versus the first quarter of 2025. This resulted in a return on assets of $138 and a 14.7% return on equity. Net interest income was up $6.6 million or 15.4% from the first quarter. This increase was partially attributed to our two securitization transactions. for which we recorded approximately $2 million in fees. Non-interest expenses were up 2.6%, or $738,000 in the second quarter, and of this increase, roughly $500,000 was attributed to the securitization.

John: Thank you Bart and good morning everyone. We provided the details Financial tables and yesterday's earnings release. So today, I'll provide some additional color around select balance sheet and profitability metrics from the second quarter.

John: We reported second quarter, net income of 15.6, million up 25% versus the first quarter of 2025.

John: This resulted in a return on assets of 138 and a 14.7% return on equity.

John: Net interest income was up 6.6 million or 15.4% from the first quarter.

This increase was partially attributed to our 2, secs, for which we recorded approximately 2 million dollars in Fiat.

John McWhorter: Investment securities were up $164 million to $562 million. This increase was attributed to $206 million in securities created from our securitizations, which have an average yield of approximately 5.63%. Investment increases were partially offset with sales of lower yields and security. AOCI remained steady with a gain of $10.6 million. Deposits increased $32 million for the quarter, resulting in a loan-to-deposit ratio of 95%, and our cost of funds declined slightly. Net interest margin improved materially to 4.22%. and we are forecasting a margin of between $390 and $395 for the third and fourth quarters, assuming no new securitization.

John: Non-interest expenses were up 2.6% or 738,000 in the second quarter and of this increase. Roughly 500,000 was attributed to the securitization.

John: Investment Securities were up 164 million to 562 million.

John: This increase was attributed to 206 million in Securities, created from our securitization, which have an average yield of approximately 5.63%

Investment increases were partially offset with sales of lower yielding securities.

John: Aoci remained steady with a gain of 10.6 million.

John: Deposit increased 32 million for the quarter, resulting in a loan to deposit ratio of 95% and our cost of funds declined. Slightly

John: net interest margin improved materially to 4.22%

John McWhorter: Second quarter average loans were up $40.9 million versus the first quarter of this year. Period end loan growth was 91.7.

John: And we are forecasting, a margin of between 390 and 395 for the third and fourth quarters, assuming known new securitization.

John: Second quarter average, loans were up 40.9 million versus the first quarter of this year.

John McWhorter: Loan demand remains strong with loans already up $50 million in July.

John: Period, in loan growth was 91.7 million.

John McWhorter: That completes the financial review.

John: Loan, demand remains strong with loans, already up 50 million in July.

Audrey Spaulding: At this point, I'll pass the call to Audrey for our credit quality. Thank you, John. And good morning, everyone. Asset quality demonstrated resilience during the second quarter, staying close to historical benchmarks. Non-accrual loans improved significantly, declining by $3.7 million during the quarter, primarily due to the payoff in full of a $2 million loan and approximately $800,000 in loans placed back on accrual. Non-performing loans increased by $1.5 million from the previous but with $4.3 million less than the same period a year ago. Similarly, the non-performing loans to total loans ratio rose by two basis points quarter over quarter, but improved by 16 basis points compared to last year.

John: That completes the financial review at this point, I'll pass the call to Audrey for our credit quality review.

Thank you, John. And good morning everyone.

Audrey: He demonstrated resilience during the second quarter, staying close to historical benchmarks. Non-accrual loans. Improved significantly declining by 3.7 million during the quarter primarily due to the payoff in full of a million dollar loan and approximately 800,000 in loans placed back on acrel,

Audrey: Non-performing loans increased by 1.5 million from the previous quarter.

Audrey: But was 4.3 million less than the same period a year ago.

Audrey Spaulding: Net charge-offs to average loans increased by 20 basis points quarter over quarter, impacted by the $1.7 million write-off of a factory. which also resulted in most of the $1.68 million increase in provision expense. Our loan portfolio remains well diversified and consistent with the previous quarter's allocation. Commercial and industrial loans were 42% of total loans, while construction, development and land loans were 19%. Owner occupied CRE was 11% and non owner occupied CRE was 16% of total loans. Our office and medical office portfolio exposure was not material and materially different in previous quarters.

Audrey: Similarly, the non-performing loans to Total loans ratio Rose by 2 basis points. Quarter over quarter but improved by 16 basis points compared to last year.

Net charge offs to average loans increased by 20 basis points. Quarter over quarter impacted by the 1.7 million write-off of a factoring client.

Audrey: Which also resulted in most of the 1. 6, 6, 8.

Audrey Spaulding: And our multifamily exposure has We remain disciplined in our credit underwriting and maintain a robust monitoring process, which has served us well. We are confident that our strong foundation and disciplined risk management strategies will continue to ensure sustainable growth and stability in the quarters ahead.

Was 11 percent and non-owner occupied CRA with 16% of total loans, our office and medical office. Portfolio exposure was not Material, materially different than previous orders. And our multifamily exposure has declined.

We remain disciplined in our credit underwriting and maintain our robust monitoring process. Which has served us. Well,

Bart Caraway: With that, I'll turn the call back to Bart. Looking ahead, Third Coast is strategically and tactically prepared to navigate and thrive Whether driven by ongoing industry consolidation, impending shifts in interest rates, or evolving customer preferences in technology, I am confident Third Coast will continue to leverage our strong capital position to seize additional growth opportunities and further enhance shareholder value, building on our consistent, top-tier track record of growth and profitability. Our key strategies moving forward are, first, enhancing operational efficiency. We are proactively working to improve our efficiency ratio, and we are making significant strides thanks to our ongoing success of our 1% improvement campaign and completed core conversion.

Audrey: we are confident that our strong foundation and disciplined risk management. Strategies will continue to ensure sustainable growth and stability in the quarters ahead with that. I'll turn the call back to BART BART

BART Caroway: Thank you, Audrey. Looking ahead. Third Coast is strategically and tactically prepared to navigate and thrive in the ever-changing landscape. That is the financial services sector.

Whether driven by ongoing Endust industry, consolidation impending shifts and interest rates, or evolving customer preferences and Technology. I am confident, Third Coast will continue to leverage our strong Capital position to seize additional growth opportunities and further. Enhance shareholder value. Building on our consistent top tier track record of growth and profitability.

BART Caroway: our key strategies moving forward are first enhancing operational, efficiency,

Bart Caraway: The efficiency ratio improved to 55.45% in the second quarter, down from 61.39% a year ago, a headline result that underlies our ability to drive meaningful transformation in a short period. This demonstrated progress reinforces our confidence in delivering sustained momentum and further enhancement. Second, strong wind growth. Our loan pipelines remain robust, reflecting our efforts in building a diversified portfolio and enhancing our offerings, which continue to deepen client relationships and bolster trust in our franchise. We remain confident about our loan growth targets, projecting $50 to $100 million of new loans each quarter and maintaining an annualized growth rate near 8%, in line with our recent performance.

BART Caroway: We are pro proactively working to improve our efficiency ratio and we are making significant strides. Thanks to our ongoing success of our 1% Improvement campaign and completed core conversion. The efficiency ratio improved to 55.45% in the second quarter down from 61.39% a year ago. A headline result that underlies our ability to drive meaningful transformation in short period.

BART Caroway: This demonstrated progress, reinforces our confidence in delivering sustained momentum and further enhancements.

BART Caroway: Second.

BART Caroway: Strong loan growth.

Bart Caraway: Third, preserving and optimizing our net interest margin. Our Forward View includes two rate cuts by the Federal Reserve before year-end, and we are ready to capitalize on them. By strategically managing our asset and liability mix, including dynamic loan pricing and careful deposit cost management, we are well-equipped to handle the fluctuations in interest rates and preserve our net interest margin. We will continue to leverage the variable rate structure of most of our deposit portfolio and employ various strategies within the investment portfolio, such as swaps and selected securities, to seek yield enhancement, amplifying our ability to navigate changing rate environments with precision.

Our loan pipelines, remain robust reflecting our efforts in building a diversified portfolio and enhancing our offerings, which continue to deepen client relationships and bolster trusts in our franchise. We remain confident about our loan growth targets projecting 50 to 100 million of new loans, each quarter and maintaining an annualized growth rate, near 8% in line with our recent performance,

BART Caroway: Third.

BART Caroway: Preserving and optimizing our net interest. Margins. Our forward view, includes 2 rate cuts by the Federal Reserve before year end, and we are ready to capitalize on them by strategically managing our asset and liability mix including Dynamic, loan. Pricing and careful deposit cost management. We are well equipped to handle the fluctuations in interest rates and preserve our net interest margins.

Bart Caraway: Fourth, maintaining superior credit quality. Our conservative credit culture has consistently yielded strong results. Disciplined underwriting and prudent standards remain core to our approach, and our credit metrics have continued to improve, reflecting proactive portfolio management. This discipline aligns with our strategic vision for sustainable, high-quality growth.

BART Caroway: We will continue to leverage, the variable rate, structure of most of our deposit portfolio and employ various strategies within the Investment Portfolio. Such as swaps and selected Securities to seek yield enhancement amplifying, our ability to navigate changing rate environments with precision.

Bart Caraway: In closing, I want to emphasize how proud I am of this team. We consistently exceed expectations with growth that outpaces that of our peers. With some of the best bankers in the industry and our strategic position in the most attractive Texas markets, we have built a strong franchise with scarcity value as others consolidate. This positions us for ongoing success and sustained value creation for our shareholders over the long term.

BART Caroway: Fourth, maintaining Superior Credit quality, our conservative credit culture has consistently yielded, strong results, disciplined underwriting and prudent standards remain core to our approach and our credit metrics have continued to improve reflecting proactive, portfolio management. This discipline aligns with our strategic vision for sustainable high-quality growth in closing. I want to emphasize how proud I am of this team. We consistently exceed expectations with growth that outpaces that of our peers, with some of the best Bankers in the industry, and our strategic position in the most attractive, Texas markets, we have built a strong franchise with scarcity value as others consolidate

Bart Caraway: I would now like to turn the call back over to the operator for question and answer period. Operator? Thank you.

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BART Caroway: Dispositions us for ongoing success, and sustained value creation for our shareholders, over the long term, I would now like to turn the call back over to the operator. For question and answer period operator.

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Jordan Ghent: And our first question comes from Jordan Ghent with Stevens, Inc. Hey, good morning. My first question is around the securitizations.

Jordan Ghent: In our first question comes from Jordan Ghent with Stevens Inc.

John McWhorter: I'm wondering if you could kind of add any color to it and kind of maybe what's the appetite for more and kind of what are your expectations for doing more securitizations? Yeah, John, you want to start with that? Yeah, so Jordan, this is John. You know, the second one that we did, we certainly weren't expecting when we closed the first. It came about much quicker, which was good for us. It made it somewhat less expensive and just more efficient. We were probably talking to a half a dozen different customers about the same type of transaction, although it doesn't appear that we will have any in the third quarter at this point.

Jordan Ghent: If you could kind of um, add any color to it and kind of maybe what's the appetite for more and kind of what are your expectations um, for doing more? Accurizing.

Jordan Ghent: John, you want to start with that?

John McWhorter: Most of the conversations at this point are just in the early stages, so we're not specifically forecasting any new ones for the remainder of the year. If we were to have more, certainly that would help our margin and help our earning assets even more than we're forecasting, but we think there's one for the first quarter of next year that looks likely, and there's a possible one in the fourth quarter, but we're not there yet.

Jordan Ghent: Got it. Thanks for answering that.

Jordan Ghent: Yeah, so Jordan, this is John. Um, you know, the second 1 that we did. We we certainly weren't expecting when we when we closed the first it came about much quicker which was good for us. It made it somewhat less expensive and just more efficient. We were probably talking to a half a dozen, different customers about the same type of transaction, although it doesn't appear that we will have any in the third quarter at this point. Most of the conversations at this point are just in the early stages so we're not specifically forecasting. Any new ones for the remainder of the year. If if we were to have more certainly that would help our margin and help our earning assets even more than we're forecasting. But we think there's 1 for the first quarter of next year that that looks like likely and there's a possible 1 in the fourth quarter but it's we're not there yet.

Jordan Ghent: Um, and then, um, just kind of going to the profitability and the ROA. Um, where do you guys see the ROA going through the remainder of the year? Yeah, that's a good question. You know, we had a little more noise than usual this quarter. You know, I think it'll definitely be better than 125. It could be in the 130 sort of range. Those, I'd say, are somewhat soft estimates, but that's kind of our best guess now based on everything we know. It's kind of between that 125 and 130. Okay, perfect. Thank you for answering my questions.

Speaker Change: Got it. Thanks for answering that. Um, and then um, just kind of going to the profitability in the Roa. Um, where do you guys see? The our way going through the remainder of the year?

Yeah, that's a good question, you know, we, we had a little more noise than, than usual this quarter. Um, you know, I think it'll definitely be better than 125. It it could be in the 130s sort of range. Those I'd say are, are somewhat soft estimates but, um, that that's kind of our best guess. Now based on on everything we know is kind of between that 125 and 1 130 range

Jordan Ghent: Thank you, Jordan.

Speaker Change: Okay, perfect. Thank you for answering my questions.

Bernard Gizycki: Our next question comes from Bernard von Gizycki with Deutsche Bank. Hey guys, so just a question, John, I know you mentioned I think the $2 million benefit in net interest income from securitization and you gave the guidance of the $390 to $395. What was the core NIM if we take out what the securitization impact was in 2Q? Yeah, it would have been in that same range of $390,000 to $395,000. So, we did have improvement in margin, and the improvement that we saw was primarily from loan fees. So, again, there's kind of a lot of noise there that we had not just the $2 million from the securitizations, but we're leading more deals.

Bernie: Morning Bernie hey guys. Good morning. Hey guys. Uh so just a question um John I know you mentioned, I think the 2 million uh I think benefits in managers income from the secularization and you gave the guidance of the 390 to 395. What was the corn in? If we take out what the securitization impact was, uh, in 2q,

John McWhorter: We just have more fee income generally. For instance, we have about $18 million in capitalized fees at the end of the quarter. That's an all-time high for the bank. I would have thought that that number would have stopped growing at this point, but we're putting on more fees than ever, and those will come back to us generally straight line over the next three years. So, between that and the swaps, we have a pretty significant tailwind to the margin. And then maybe, just given some of the noise you mentioned with some of those capitalized fees, your loan yields increased 50 basis points too.

John: Yeah, it would have been in that same range of 390 to 395. So we did have a Improvement in margin and the Improvement that we saw was primarily from loan fees. So again, there's kind of a lot of noise there that we had not just the 2 million from the securitization but but, you know, we're leading more deals. We just have more fee income. Generally, for instance, we have about 18 million dollars in capitalized fees at the end of the quarter. That's that's an all-time high for the bank. I would have thought that that number would have stopped growing at this point, but but we're putting on more fees than ever and, you know, those will come back to us generally straight line over the next 3 years. So between that and the swaps, we have a, a pretty significant Tailwind of the margin.

John McWhorter: How much of that is kind of like reoccurring or was there like one-time items in this as well just to kind of break out that 50 basis points sequential increase? The 50 basis points, $2 million of it was from the securitizations. The coupon yield on our loans hasn't changed materially. Prime hasn't changed. Nothing else has changed. If you back into the number of subtracting out the $2 million, the difference would be extra loan fees, if you will. But we do expect that part to continue for the third and fourth quarters. So it's just the $2 million that was kind of non-recurring.

Speaker Change: And then maybe just giving some of the noise. You mentioned uh with some of those uh capitalized uh fees. Um, your loan yields increased 50 basis points, too. What I mean how much of that is uh you know kind of like reoccurring or uh was there like a 1 time? Um 1 time items in this as well, just to kind of break out that um 50 basis points, sequential increase,

Speaker Change: The the 50 basis points 2 million of it was from the securitizations. Um, you know the the coupon yield on our loans hasn't changed materially. I mean Prime hasn't changed. Nothing else has changed so you know, if you back into the the number of subtracting out the 2 million the the difference would be

Bernard Gizycki: Everything else is recurring. So again, we think, you know, normalized... 395 probably for the second quarter. So we're giving ourself a little cushion for the next couple of quarters saying. 390 to 395. Okay, great. Thanks for answering my questions. Thank you.

Speaker Change: Extra loan fees if you will, but but we do expect that part to continue for the third and fourth quarter. So it's it's just the 2 million. That was kind of non-recurring. Everything else is recurring. So again, we think you know, normalized

Speaker Change: 395. Probably for the the second quarter. So we're we're giving ourselves a little cushion for the next couple of quarters saying

Speaker Change: 390 to 395.

Speaker Change: Okay, great. Thanks for asking my uh, answering my questions.

Speaker Change: Thank you.

Woody Lay: Moving next to Woody Lay with KBW. Hey, thanks for taking my question. Just one more follow up on the loan yield and then expect So does that 390 to 395 range exclude all impact of capitalized loans? I'm sorry, I didn't quite follow the question. Yeah, I guess because you sort of called out a core margin this quarter of 390 to 395. But if I back out the two million, that would put the margin around like 405. So, I'm just wondering if that 390 to 395 going forward, is that like a core name excluding all capitalized loan fees, or does that include the impact of some of the non-securitization loan fees in it?

Woody Lay: Moving next to Woody lay with KBW.

Speaker Change: 90 to 395 range, exclude all impact of capitalized loan fees.

Speaker Change: Um, I'm sorry I didn't quite follow the question.

Speaker Change: yeah, I I guess because you sort of called out a core margin, this quarter of 390 to 395, but if I back out the 2 million, that would put the margin around like 405

Speaker Change: Um, so I'm just wondering if that 390 to 395 going forward is is that like a core nymph, excluding all capitalized loan fees or does that does that include the impact of of some of the non-security 1 fees in it?

John McWhorter: It includes the other capitalized fees. So when you say $405,000, I'm saying call it $395,000. I'm maybe just being a little bit more conservative in calculating that. But yes, you're certainly, it could be a little bit higher than my number. Got it.

Speaker Change: It it includes the, the other capitalized fees. So when you say 405, I'm saying call it 395. Um, I'm maybe just being a little bit more conservative and and calculating that, but but yes, you're you're certainly, you know, it it could be a little bit higher than my number. Yes.

John McWhorter: And then maybe just, you know, big picture on the securitizations. Could you just talk or maybe walk through sort of how you evaluate the pros and cons of sort of growing the securities portfolio through these types of transactions versus using the capital for loan growth and sort of the risk return profile of, you know, both options. Yeah, when we did the first one, we didn't necessarily think that the the security that we were taking back was sellable in the market. and we put it in held to maturity not knowing exactly how to value it. The second one came right on the heels of it, so we kind of did the same thing.

Speaker Change: Got it. Um, and then maybe just, you know, big picture on the securitizations. Could you just talk or maybe walk through sort of how you evaluate, uh, the pros and cons of a, a sort of growing the Securities portfolio through these types of transactions versus using the capital for loan growth and sort of the risk return profile of of you know, both options.

Bart Caraway: But in hindsight, we have had others offer to buy our A1 paper because it's, roughly speaking, three-year maturity floating rate paper yielding 565. We've had people call us and ask us to sell it to them. So I think if we were to do a third one, we would sell some of the securities at least, just proof of concept to show the market that we can do it. But it, you know, we've had more than one offer to buy the paper. So it does look, you know, completely legit that we can sell it at, you know, sell it at par and that just frees up capital.

John McWhorter: Although with that said, I mean, we accreted capital generally this quarter. So to the extent that we have the, you know, the balance sheet or the capitals to support the bigger balance sheet, we would probably be inclined to keep it. It just depends where we are at the time.

Speaker Change: Yeah, when we did the first 1, we didn't necessarily think that the the security that we were taking back was sellable in the markets and we put it and held a maturity not knowing exactly how to Value it. The second 1 came right on the heels of it so we kind of did the same thing but in hindsight, we have had others offer to buy our A1 paper because it's roughly speaking 3 year, maturity floating rate paper, yielding 565, we've had people call us and ask us to to sell it to them. So I I think if we were to do a third 1, we would sell some of the Securities at least just proof of concept to show the market that we can do it, but it, you know, we've had more than 1 offer to to buy the paper. So it, it does look, you know, completely legit that we can sell it at, you know, sell it at PAW or and that just frees up capital.

Bart Caraway: Yeah, Woody, I'd add to that that, you know, the securitization you know, kind of impacts us in multiple different areas. I mean, one's capital, two, earnings, whether what we keep on the balance sheet, we don't. Concentrations, but also customer accommodation. And I would say maybe the first one I would lump into more us managing capital and concentration. But on the second one, it was more centered around accommodating a very good customer. And I think what we're seeing now is we have these customers that are, quite frankly, used to dealing with some of the biggest banks in the country that would like to deal with us.

Although with that said, I mean, we accreted Capital generally this quarter so to the extent that we have the, you know, the balance sheet and or the capitals to support the bigger balance sheet, we would probably be inclined to keep it. It, it just depends where we are at the time.

Speaker Change: Yeah, Woody, I'd add to that that, you know, the securitization.

Woody Lay: You know, kind of impacts Us in in multiple different areas. I mean, 1's Capital 2, erne, what? We keep on the balance sheet, we don't concentrations, but also customer accommodation. And I would say maybe the first 1 I would lump into more of us managing capital and concentrations.

Bart Caraway: And this tool allows us to facilitate larger transactions and keep the customer closer to us on it. So I think each one of these has a little bit different story. But I think the ones coming up is more of a testament to the quality of the customers that we have, that we're able to basically take care of their business under our umbrella with this tool. And I think that's what we're seeing coming up is just larger customers where we're trying to manage that relationship with this tool. Yeah, that's helpful.

Woody Lay: But on the second 1, it was more centered around accommodating, a very good customer. And and I think what we're seeing now is we have these customers that are quite frankly, you know, used to dealing with some of the biggest banks in the country that would like to deal with us. And this tool allows us to, you know, facilitate larger transactions, and keep the customer closer to us on it. So I think each 1 of these has a little bit different story, but I think the ones coming up uh is more of a testament to the quality of the customers that we have. There were able to basically take care of their business under our umbrella, uh, with this this tool. And I think that's what we're seeing coming up is just larger customers where we're trying to manage that relationship with this tool.

John McWhorter: And then maybe just last for me, I think you called out 500,000, a sort of extra expenses associated with this transaction. But if I adjust for those, does it feel like the 2Q expense run rate is a pretty good one? I believe so, yes. Our salary and employee benefits number actually went down quarter over quarter. So, you know, somewhere in that $28 million range is what we expect for the rest of the year. There's no significant increases in expenses that we're aware of right now. We did have some expense also in the second quarter related to the conversion that we just did from Jack Henry to FIS.

Speaker Change: Yeah, that that's helpful and then maybe just last for me. I think you called out 500,000, a sort of extra expense expensive associated with this transaction. If I adjust, for those, does it feel like the the 2 Q expense run rate is a pretty good 1.

John McWhorter: There may be a little bit of that carryover to the third quarter, but it really wasn't material enough to even point out in the second quarter. So, as far as core expenses, we were very happy with the basic flatness of it versus the first quarter. And, you know, I think we can do that again for the third.

Speaker Change: Point out in the second quarter. So as far as core expenses we we were very happy with the basic flatness of it versus the first quarter and you know I think we can do that again for the Third.

Woody Lay: Awesome, that's all for me. Thanks for taking my questions. Thank you, Woody.

Speaker Change: Awesome. That's all for me. Thanks for taking my questions.

Operator: Thank you.

Woody Lay: Thank you, Woody.

Tim Mitchell: Our next question comes from Tim Mitchell with Raymond James. Hey, good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. I just want to start out on the loan growth outlook. I think you kind of reiterated that 8% number. Moving forward, I'm just curious if you could kind of unpack some of the drivers, you know, customer sentiment, line utilization, et cetera, as we think ahead. Yeah, sure, Tim. So, you know, we always kind of caution everybody to realize that, you know, our growth tends to be kind of lumpy. And you've seen that over the last three years.

Speaker Change: Thank you. Our next question comes from Tim Mitchell with Raymond James.

Tim Mitchell: Hey, good morning everyone. Um, thanks for taking my questions. Just want to start out on the, uh, the loan growth Outlook. I think you kind of reiterated that 8% number. Um, moving forward. Um, just curious, if you could kind of unpack, some of the drivers, you know, customer sentiment. Well, I utilization Etc. Um, as we think I had thanks.

Tim Mitchell: But we've been pretty consistent in what our messaging is with it, which is 50 to 100 million per quarter. And I still feel good about, you know, the next, you know, three quarters or so of sticking with that kind of guidance. Again, it's going to be lumpy. We have experienced a lot of payoffs, or else we would have had even more growth than what we have now. And I will tell you, maybe utilization has been a little softer, particularly in the first quarter. But I think what we're seeing, particularly in our markets, is there is still some optimism, but there's a lot of caution, too.

Tim Mitchell: Yeah, sure. Tim. So, you know, we always kind of caution everybody to realize that, you know, our our growth tends to be kind of lumpy and you've seen that over the last 3 years, but we've been pretty consistent in what our messaging is with it, which is 50 to 100 million per quarter and I still feel good about, you know, the next, you know, 3/4 or so. Uh, of sticking with that kind of guidance, uh, again, it's going to be lumpy. Um, we have experienced a lot of payoffs or else. We would have had even more growth than what we have now. Um, and I will tell you, maybe utilization has been a little softer particularly in the first quarter.

Tim Mitchell: So I don't see the utilizations on loans picking up some of the pace as much as I see just new production outpacing the payoffs. And I would say that almost every one of our verticals is contributing to that. It just depends on which quarter it is. So I think we're seeing even more diversity in our portfolio as we continue to grow. And, you know, particularly just our markets are... Strong. And I think we're experiencing a lot of our growth just from winning customers over from some of the larger banks. Does that help him? Yeah, very helpful.

But I think what we're seeing particularly in our markets is there is still some optimism and but there's a lot of caution too so I I don't see the utilizations on loans picking up some of the pace as much as I see. Just new production outpacing, the payoffs.

Tim Mitchell: And I would say that almost every 1 of our verticals is contributing to that just depends on which quarter it is. So I think we're seeing even more diversity in our in our portfolio, as we continue to grow. And um you know particularly just our markets are are

Tim Mitchell: Strong. And I think we're experiencing a lot of our growth just from winning customers over from some of the larger Banks.

Speaker Change: Does that help them?

Tim Mitchell: And if I just kind of a larger picture question on capital deployment. So obviously, you guys announced the buyback program this quarter. You had pretty strong loan growth, we've seen M&A activity in Texas start to pick up over the past few weeks, and you're putting up 140 ROA this quarter, it sounds like 130 might be more of the run rate. But, you know, hopefully that leads to a better currency. But just how, you know, how should we think about your way you guys are going to prioritize capital deployment kind of across those different options? as we move forward.

Bart Caraway: I think part of what you're saying is optionality, and that's what we want as well. You know, I think certainly we are looking at if our stock looks like it's a good deployment of our capital to buy some back, we will. We are looking at pretty strong loan growth, and we're going to prioritize growth probably over the buyback. But it really is situational for us, given this optionality, to do what we think is in the best interest of the shareholders as a whole. John, I don't know if you want to add anything to that. You know, just the one thing that I might mention about loan growth is with the securitizations, particularly the second one, we took on balance sheet loans that had been there for a while and sold them into the securitization.

Yeah, very helpful. Um, and then if I just kind of a larger picture question on Capital deployment, so obviously you guys announced the buyback program. This quarter um, you know, pretty strong loan growth. We've seen how many activity and taxes start to pick up over the past few weeks and you're putting up a 140 Roa this quarter. It sounds like 1:30 might be more of the Run rate but you know and hopefully that leads to a better currency but just how you know, how should we think about your what you guys are going to prioritize? Capital deployment, kind of across those different options as we as we move forward.

Speaker Change: Uh, I think part of what you're saying is optionality and that's what we want as well. You know, I think, um, certainly, um, we were looking at if our stock looks, uh, like it's a good deployment of our Capital to buy some back. We will we are looking at pretty strong loan growth and we're going to prioritize growth probably over the the buyback. But it, it really is situational for us, giving us optionality to do what we think is in the best interest of the shareholders, as a whole John. I don't know if you want to add anything to that.

John McWhorter: So without it, our loan growth actually would have been materially higher. So. You know, we are still seeing the loan demand, the pipelines look good. We certainly don't want to be short on capital. We ended up the quarter kind of just where we wanted to be, where we created just a little bit of capital to give ourselves room to continue growing. So we were pretty happy with the way it ended up. If loan growth were for some reason to slow down, I think we would be more likely to buy back shares, but at this point, it doesn't appear as likely.

Speaker Change: You know, just the, the 1 thing that I might mention about loan growth is with the securitization. Particularly the second 1, we took on balance sheet loans that had been there for a while and sold them into the securitization. So our without it, our loan growth actually would have been materially higher. So

Bart Caraway: That's a good point, John. You know, we focus so much on talking about loans and with the securitization, it kind of switches the concept a little bit for us to looking at earning asset growth. And when you look at the earning asset growth and the overall balance sheet, it was a really strong quarter. So, you know, that's kind of a different dynamic that y'all might want to pay attention to. It's not just loans, it's the total earning asset growth. Okay, very helpful. Thanks for the caller.

Speaker Change: You know, we are still seeing the loan demand the pipelines look good. We we certainly don't want to be short on Capital that we ended up the quarter, kind of just where we wanted to be, where we had created, just a little bit of capital to to give ourselves room to continue growing. So we were, we were pretty happy with the way it ended up. If loan growth were for some reason to slow down, I think we would be more likely to buy back shares but but at this point, it it doesn't appear as likely

Speaker Change: Yeah, that's a good point, John. You know, we we focus so much on talking about loans and with the securitization it kind of switches the concept A little bit for us to looking at earning asset growth. And when you look at the earning asset growth, um, and the overall balance sheet, it was a really strong quarter. Um,

Speaker Change: So, you know, that's kind of the different Dynamic that y'all might want to pay attention to. It's not just loans. It's the, the total earning asset growth.

John McWhorter: And then just one last one. I think you called out the Norio evaluation headwind for free income this quarter. Can you just kind of update us on a good run rate as we think ahead for the non-interest income line? Yeah, there were several things this quarter that... You know, we're not typical. I mean, I think our core fee income is essentially the same as the prior quarter in that $3 million range. But we did have, you know, some losses on securities where we sold some lower yielding securities. And in the other line item for non-interest income, I think we had some SBICs that were relatively new in their capital deployment, and, you know, they're not going to return monies for a couple of years or whatever it may be.

Speaker Change: Okay, very helpful, thanks for the caller. Um, and then just 1 last 1. Thank you, call that out. Um, the noro evaluation headwind for free income, this quarter. Um, can you just kind of update us on a, on a good run rate as we think ahead for for the non-interested income line?

Speaker Change: Yeah, there were several things. This quarter that

Operator: So new SBICs tend to be a drag on non-interest income and then make up for it more later. But I think next quarter is going to still be in that $3 million. Okay, great. Thanks Jake, Michael. And as a reminder, that is star one.

Speaker Change: We're not typical. I mean I I think our core fee income is essentially the same as the prior quarter in that million dollar range. But we did have, you know, some some losses on Securities where we sold some lower yielding Securities, and then the other line item for non-interest income. I think we had some sbic that were relatively new in their Capital deployment and, you know, they're not going to return monies for a couple of years or whatever it may be. So new, sbi's tend to be a drag on non-interest income and then make up for it more later. But I, I think next quarter is going to still be in that 3 million range.

Speaker Change: Okay great. Uh, thanks for taking my questions.

Speaker Change: Thank you.

Dave Storms: If you would like to ask a question, our next caller comes from Dave Storms with Stonegate. I wanted to start with the portfolio and the loan growth expectations, hoping to get a little more granular. at the pipeline there, are you expecting the commercial and industrial sector?

And as a reminder, that is star 1, if you would like to ask a question,

Speaker Change: our next caller comes from Dave storms with Stonegate.

Bart Caraway: and now Driver again. Yeah, the C&I portfolio has been pretty robust all year. The problem is we've had some substantial payoffs, and I do know that we are going to have some more payoffs before the end of the year, just, you know, company selling, you know, not really anything to do with the economy, more like, you know, customers are doing well, and some of them are taking the advantage to sell their companies. But overall, the C&I pipeline is probably one of the most robust verticals we have, in that I'm seeing some really, really strong pipeline growth there.

Dave Storms: Morning everyone, and appreciate you taking my questions. Um, just wanted to start with the uh, portfolio and the loan growth expectations. Hoping to get a little more granular. Um, when you're looking at the pipeline there, are you expecting the commercial and Industrial, uh, segment to be a standout driver again for the back half of the year or, uh, do you think growth might come somewhere else?

Bart Caraway: You know, it's kind of hard quarter per quarter to predict that, because even if we close on a loan, it may not be fully funded up, or there may be different components to it. So, you know, when I look at the C&I portfolio, I have to look out over several quarters to kind of give you an idea. But I do believe that will be one of our stronger drivers, probably really over the next year.

Speaker Change: Yeah, the the cni portfolio has been pretty robust all year. The problem is we've had some substantial payoffs and I do know that we are going to have some more payoffs before the end of the year, just, you know, companies selling, you know. Um, you know, not really, um, anything to do with, um, the economy more like, you know, customers are doing well. And some of them are are, are taking the advantage to sell their companies. But, uh, overall the cni, uh, pipeline is probably 1 of the most robust verticals. We have in that. Um, I'm seeing some really, really strong pipeline growth there, you know, it's kind of hard quarter quarter quarter to to predict that because even if we close on a loan it may not be fully funded up or there may be different components to it. So you know, when I look at the cni portfolio, I have to look out over several quarters to kind of give you an idea, but I I do believe that will be 1 of our stronger drivers. Um,

Dave Storms: Probably really over the next year.

Bart Caraway: One more, maybe around. Credit Quality. Macro Stabilized. Is there any potential to Leverage. Credit Underwriting Standards to maybe drive You know, I mean, Audrey is here in front of me. We've talked about this ad nauseum about it, that, you know, we basically tightened credit quality back in 2019. We joke about it because we predicted there was going to be some dramatic change in the economy. And of course, we were wrong because even with the pandemic, you know, it was still, you know, pretty robust. But, you know, we never loosened those standards. And I think when you're talking about LTVs and our, you know, the way we structure deals, I think we've just maintained a high quality standard.

Speaker Change: Understood very helpful. Thank you. And then just 1 more maybe around uh credit quality and underwriting with, you know, some of the macro uh, stabilizing a little bit. Is there any potential to, you know?

Speaker Change: Leverage some of your credit underwriting standards uh to maybe drive growth.

Audrey Spaulding: And we have enough loan production, you know, that will continue the growth projections we're talking about without changing pricing or standards. And, you know, we're sticking to our standards. Now, I will tell you, we're seeing a lot of things in the market that are being done that we wouldn't do. And we are losing, you know, some deals. But even with that, you know, we have enough growth to meet our projections.

Audrey Spaulding: Audrey, you want any other comments on that? I don't really have anything to add. You covered it. Yeah, credit, we always talk about credit is the number one objective in the organization, right? And because of that, you know, we're going to grow and maintain credit quality. We believe we can do both.

You know, I mean, Audrey is here in front of me. We've talked about this agnos about it. That, you know, we basically tighten credit quality, back in 2019, we joke about it because we predicted there was going to be some dramatic change in the economy, and of course, we were wrong because even with the pandemic, um, you know, it was still, you know, pretty robust, but you know, we never loosened the standards and I think when you're talking about ltvs and our, you know, the way we structure deals, uh, I I think we've just maintained a, a high quality standard and we have enough Loan Production, you know, that will continue the growth projections. We're talking about without changing pricing or standards and, you know, we're sticking to our standards. Now, I will tell you, we're seeing a lot of things in the market that, um, are being done that we wouldn't do and we are losing, you know, some deals. Uh, but even with that, you know, we have enough growth to to meet our projection.

Speaker Change: Projections. Audrey. You want any other comments on that or I don't, I don't really have anything to add you covered it. So yeah, with credit we always talk about credit is the number 1 objective in the organization, right? And, uh, because of that, you know, we're we're going to grow and maintain credit quality. We believe we can do both.

Dave Storms: That's very helpful.

Operator: Thank you for taking my questions. Thank you.

Speaker Change: That's very helpful. Thank you for taking my questions.

Thank you.

Bart Caraway: This now concludes our question and answer session.

Bart Caraway: I would like to turn the floor back over to Bart Caraway for closing comments. I just want to thank you, Kerry. Appreciate your help in this, and thanks everybody for joining the call and for your continued support of Third Coast Bank shares, and we look forward to talking to you next quarter. Thank y'all.

Speaker Change: Thank you. This now, concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Bart, Caraway for closing comments.

Speaker Change: I just want to thank you Carrie, appreciate, uh, your help in this and thanks everybody for joining the call. And uh, for your continued support of Third Coast Bank shares and we look forward to talking to you next quarter. Thank you all.

Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation.

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