Q2 2025 Donegal Group Inc Earnings Call - Pre-Recorded
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Karen: results. The release and a supplemental investor presentation are available in the investor relations section of Donegal Group Inc.'s website at www.donegalgroup.com. Please be advised that today's conference was pre-recorded and all participants are in listen-only mode. Speaking today will be President and Chief Executive Officer, Kevin Burke, Chief Financial Officer, Jeff Miller, Chief Underwriting Officer, Jeff Hay, Chief Operating Officer, Dan DeLamater, and Chief Investment Officer, Tony Viozzi. Please be aware that statements made during this call that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements and necessarily involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to vary materially. These factors can be found in Donegal Group Inc.'s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including its annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q.
Jeff Miller: Officer, Jeff, Hey, Chief operating Officer, Dan Delamater, and Chief Investment Officer, Tony Theosophy.
Jeff Miller: Please be aware that statements made during this call that are not historical facts are forward looking statements and necessarily involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to vary materially. These factors can be found in Donegal group's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including its annual report on Form 10-K, and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q.
Speaker Change: The company disclaims any obligation to update or publicly announce the results of any revision that they may make to any forward looking statements to reflect the occurrence of anticipated or unanticipated events or circumstances. After the date of such statements with that it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Kevin Burke Kevin.
Karen: The company disclaims any obligation to update or publicly announce the results of any revisions that they may make to any forward-looking statements to reflect the occurrence of anticipated or unanticipated events or circumstances after the date of such statements. With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Kevin Burke. Kevin?
Speaker Change: Thank you Karen and welcome everyone to our earnings webcast. We are pleased to provide an update today on our quarterly results and our operating strategies and initiatives, while weather related losses were higher than average during the second quarter. We continued to see improvement in our core loss ratios in both commercial and personal lines the improvement allowed us to generate favor.
Kevin Burke: Thank you, Karen. Welcome everyone to our earnings webcast. We are pleased to provide an update today on our quarterly results and our operating strategies and initiatives. While weather-related losses were higher than average during Q2, we continue to see improvement in our core loss ratios in both commercial and personal lines. The improvement allowed us to generate favorable results despite elevated weather-related losses and a comparable level of large fire losses to the prior year quarter. Combining the solid Q2 results with our very profitable Q1 results, we are pleased with our profitability for H1 of 2025. With a combined ratio of 94.6%, net income of $42.1 million, and $1.17 earnings per diluted Class A common share. Jeff Hay and Dan Delimater will provide further details about the ongoing factors that impacted our net premiums written growth.
Jeff Miller: Well results, despite elevated weather related losses, and a comparable level of large fire losses to the prior year quarter.
Jeff Miller: Combining the solid second quarter results with a very profitable first quarter results. We are pleased with our profitability for the first half of 2025 with a combined ratio of 94, 6% net income of $42 1 million and $1.17 earnings per diluted class, a common share, Jeff Hey, and Dan Delamater will.
Jeff Miller: Further details about the ongoing factors that impacted our net premiums written growth, we're not achieving the level of commercial lines and personal lines premium growth that we projected in our 2025 business plan, while we remain focus on delivering sustained excellent financial results achieving profitable growth will.
Kevin Burke: We are not achieving the level of commercial lines and personal lines premium growth that we projected in our 2025 business plan. While we remain focused on delivering sustained excellent financial results, achieving profitable growth will be a prominent theme during our upcoming state strategy sessions, where we gather all of our senior leadership, regional leadership, and key leaders from our sales and marketing, underwriting, product divisions for several days in early August. The action plans we develop during those sessions will inform our 2026 business plan for each region. I am pleased to report a significant milestone in our systems modernization project as we successfully deployed our final major commercial line systems release this past weekend. We will follow a phased rollout approach, beginning with policies effective in October for several states.
Jeff Miller: A prominent theme during our upcoming state strategy sessions, where we gather all of our senior leadership regional leadership and key leaders from our sales and marketing underwriting product divisions for several days in early August the action plans, we develop during those sessions will inform our 2026 business plan for each region.
Jeff Miller: I am pleased to report a significant milestone in our systems modernization project as we successfully deployed our final major commercial lines systems released this past weekend, we will follow a phased rollout approach beginning with policies effective in October for several states. This release represents our largest investment ever in the middle.
Kevin Burke: This release represents our largest investment ever in the middle-market commercial products and service capabilities, including a completely new Commercial Package Policy, and will put us in a solid position to compete for both small business and mid-market accounts in the classes and locations we've identified for future growth. For personal lines, we're continuing to successfully convert all remaining legacy homeowner policy renewals to the new operating platform, and we are making great progress on the final release to facilitate conversion of all legacy Personal Auto and Umbrella policy renewals to the new platform, which we plan on deploying later this year. Many thanks to all the Donegal team members who are committed to bringing this multi-year systems modernization project to a successful completion.
Jeff Miller: Commercial products and service capabilities, including a completely new commercial package policy. It will put us in a solid position to compete for both small business and mid market accounts in the classes and locations we've identified for future growth.
Jeff Miller: For personal lines, we're continuing to successfully convert all remaining legacy homeowner policy renewals to the new operating platform and we are making great progress on the final release to facilitate conversion of all legacy personal auto and umbrella policy renewals to the new platform, which we plan on deploying later this year.
Jeff Miller: Many thanks to all of the Donegal team members, who are committed to bringing this multi year systems modernization project to a successful completion, we're excited to be nearing the finish line and look forward to the advantages it will bring us, especially in terms of adopting new technologies for increased underwriting insights and operational efficiencies.
Kevin Burke: We're excited to be nearing the finish line and look forward to the advantages it will bring us, especially in terms of adopting new technologies for increased underwriting insights and operational efficiencies. At this point, I'll turn the call over to Jeff Miller for a review of our financial results for the quarter.
Speaker Change: At this point I'll turn the call over to Jeff Miller for a review of our financial results for the quarter.
Operator: The release and a supplemental investor presentation are available in the Investor Relations section of Donegal's website at www.donegalgroup.com.
Speaker Change: Thanks, Kevin for the second quarter of 2025, net premiums earned of $231 $8 million decreased one 1% compared to the second quarter of 2024.
Jeff Miller: Thanks, Kevin. For Q2 2025, net premiums earned of $231.8 million decreased 1.1% compared to Q2 2024. Net premiums written decreased by 5.4% as lower new business volume and planned attrition were offset partially by continuing premium rate increases and solid retention levels. A 15.3% decrease in personal lines net written premium was offset partially by 1.9% growth in commercial lines. Rate increases achieved during Q2 2025 averaged 7.8% in total and 8.7% when excluding workers' compensation. The combined ratio was 97.7% for Q2 2025, greatly improved compared to 103% for the prior year quarter, despite a slightly higher impact of weather-related losses and comparable large fire losses. We experienced a 5 percentage point decrease in the core loss ratio compared to the prior year quarter.
Operator: Please be advised that today's conference was prerecorded and all participants are in listen-only mode.
Speaker Change: Net premiums written decreased by five 4% as lower new business volume and planned attrition were offset partially by continuing premium rate increases and solid retention levels.
Operator: Speaking today will be President and Chief Executive Officer, Kevin Burke, Chief Financial Officer, Jeff Miller, Chief Underwriting Officer, Jeff Hay, Chief Operating Officer, Dan Dellamater, and Chief Investment Officer, Tony Fiasco.
Speaker Change: A 15, 3% decrease in personal lines net written premium was offset partially by one 9% growth in commercial lines rate increases achieved during the second quarter of 2025 averaged seven 8% in total and eight 7% when excluding workers' compensation.
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Operator: Please be aware that statements made during this call that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements and necessarily involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to vary materially. These factors can be found in Donegal Group's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including its annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly reports on Form 10-Q.
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Speaker Change: The combined ratio was 97, 7% for the second quarter of 2025 greatly improved compared to 103% for the prior year quarter, Despite a slightly higher impact of weather related losses, and comparable large fire losses.
Operator: The company disclaims any obligation to update or publicly announce the results of any revision that they may make to any forward-looking statements to reflect the occurrence of anticipated or unanticipated events or circumstances after the date of such statements.
Speaker Change: We experienced a five percentage point decrease in the core loss ratio compared to the prior year quarter. The core loss ratio excludes the impact of weather related losses large fire losses, and net development of reserves for losses incurred in prior accident years.
Kevin Burke: With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Kevin Burke. Kevin?
Jeff Miller: The core loss ratio excludes the impact of weather-related losses, large fire losses, and net development of reserves for losses incurred in prior accident years. Compared to the prior year quarter, we achieved a modest 0.3 percentage point decrease in the commercial lines core loss ratio and a significant 12 percentage point decrease in the personal lines core loss ratio. The substantial improvement in the personal lines core loss ratio was due largely to the ongoing favorable impact of premium rate increases on net premiums earned for that segment.
Kevin Burke: Thank you, Karen, and welcome, everyone, to our earnings webcast. We are pleased to provide an update today on our quarterly results and our operating strategies and initiatives. While weather-related losses were higher than average during the second quarter, we continue to see improvement in our core loss ratios in both commercial and personal lines. The improvement allowed us to generate favorable results despite elevated weather-related losses and a comparable level of large fire losses to the prior year quarter.
Speaker Change: Please be aware that statements made during this call, that are not historical facts. Are forward-looking statements, and necessarily involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to vary material. These factors can be found in Donald group's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including its annual report on form, 10K and quarterly reports on form 10 102. The company, just screams any obligation to update or publicly announced the results of any revision that they may make to any forward-looking statements to reflect the occurrence of anticipated or unanticipated events, or circumstances after the date of such statements. With that, it's my pleasure to turn the call over to Mr. Kevin Burke. Kevin
Speaker Change: Paired to the prior year quarter, we achieved a modest 0.3 percentage point decrease in the commercial lines core loss ratio and a significant 12 percentage point decrease in the personal lines core loss ratio.
Speaker Change: The substantial improvement in the personal lines core loss ratio was due largely to the ongoing favorable impact of premium rate increases on net premiums earned for that segment.
Jeff Miller: Combining the solid second quarter results with our very profitable first quarter results, we are pleased with our profitability for the first half of 2025. With a combined ratio of 94.6%, net income of $42.1 million, and $1.17 earnings per diluted Class A common share.
Speaker Change: Weather related losses of $25 $8 million or 11, one percentage points of the loss ratio for the second quarter of 2025 increased from $24 7 million or 10, six percentage points for the prior year quarter commercial.
Jeff Miller: Weather-related losses of $25.8 million, or 11.1 percentage points of the loss ratio for Q2 2025, increased from $24.7 million, or 10.6 percentage points for the prior year quarter. Commercial property losses from severe weather totaled $6.5 million and contributed 12 percentage points to the quarterly commercial multi-peril loss ratio, down compared to 15.9 percentage points of the loss ratio for that line of business in Q2 2024. The weather impact to the homeowners line was $15.8 million, or 46.4 percentage points of the homeowners loss ratio, which was substantially higher than 31.7 points of weather loss impact in the prior year quarter. In total, the quarterly weather claim impact was higher than the previous five-year average for Q2 of 9.2 percentage points.
Jeff Hay: Jeff Hay and Dan Delamere will provide further details about the ongoing factors that impacted our net premiums rate and growth.
Speaker Change: Property losses from severe weather totaled $6 $5 million and contributed 12 percentage points to the quarterly commercial multi peril loss ratio down compared to $15 nine percentage points of the loss ratio for that line of business in the second quarter of 2024.
Kevin Burke: We are not achieving the level of commercial lines and personal lines premium growth that we projected in our 2025 business plan. While we remain focused on delivering sustained excellent financial results, achieving profitable growth will be a prominent theme during our upcoming state strategy sessions where we gather all of our senior leadership, regional leadership, and key leaders from our sales and marketing, underwriting, product divisions for several days in early August. The action plans we develop during those sessions will inform our 2026 business plan for each region.
Speaker Change: Thank you, Karen and welcome everyone to our earnings webcast. We are pleased to provide an update today on our quarterly results in our operating strategies and initiatives. While weather related losses were higher than average during the second quarter, we continue to see improvement in our core loss, ratios in both commercial and personal lines, the Improvement allowed us to generate favorable results, despite elevated weather related losses and a comparable level of large fire losses to the prior year quarter. Combining the solid second quarter results with our very profitable first quarter results. We are pleased with our profitability for the first half of 2025 with a combined ratio of 94.6% net income of 42.1 million and 1.17 cents earnings per diluted class a common share Jeff. Hey and Dan delmare will provide further details about the ongoing factors that impacted our net premiums rate and growth. We are not achieving the level of commercial lines and personal lines. Premium growth that we projected
Speaker Change: The weather impact to the homeowners line was $15 8 million or 46, four percentage points of the homeowners loss ratio, which was substantially higher than 31 seven points of weather loss impact in the prior year quarter and total the quarterly weather claim impact was higher than the previous five year.
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Kevin Burke: I am pleased to report a significant milestone in our systems modernization project as we successfully deployed our final major commercial line systems release this past weekend. We will follow a phased rollout approach, beginning with policies effective in October for several states. This release represents our largest investment ever in the middle market commercial products and service capabilities, including a completely new commercial package policy, and will put us in a solid position to compete for both small business and mid-market accounts in the classes and locations we have identified for future growth.
Speaker Change: One of our insurance subsidiaries incurred losses from an April 2025, wind and hail event that we're limited to its $3 million of catastrophe reinsurance retention with Donegal mutual.
Jeff Miller: One of our insurance subsidiaries incurred losses from an April 2025 wind and hail event that were limited to its $3 million catastrophe reinsurance retention with Donegal Mutual. Large fire losses, which we define as over $50,000 in damages, contributed 5.2 percentage points to the loss ratio for Q2 2025, which was in line with 5.3 percentage points for the prior year quarter. A decrease in commercial fire losses was largely offset by an increase in homeowners fire losses during the quarter. Our insurance subsidiaries experienced $3 million of net favorable development of reserves for losses incurred in prior accident years, representing a 1.3-point reduction in the loss ratio for Q2 2025 compared to minimal impact of reserve development for the prior year quarter.
Speaker Change: In our 2025 business plan, while we remain focused on delivering sustained. Excellent results. Achieving profitable growth will be a prominent theme during our upcoming State strategy sessions, where we gather all of our senior leadership Regional leadership and key leaders from our sales and marketing underwriting product divisions. For several days in early, August. The action plans, we developed during those sessions, will inform our 2026 business plan for each region.
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Speaker Change: A decrease in commercial fire losses was largely offset by an increase in homeowners' fire losses during the quarter.
Kevin Burke: For Personal Lines, we are continuing to successfully convert all remaining Legacy Homeowner Policy Renewals to the new operating platform, and we are making great progress on the final release to facilitate conversion of all Legacy Personal Auto and Umbrella Policy Renewals to the new platform, which we plan on deploying later this year. Many thanks to all the Donegal team members who are committed to bringing this multi-year systems modernization project to a successful completion. We're excited to be nearing the finish line and look forward to the advantages it will bring us, especially in terms of adopting new technologies for increased underwriting insights and operational efficiencies.
Speaker Change: Our insurance subsidiaries experienced $3 million of net favorable development of reserves for losses incurred in prior accident years, representing a one three point reduction in the loss ratio for the second quarter of 2025 compared to minimal impact of reserve development for the prior year quarter specific.
Speaker Change: I am pleased to report a significant milestone in our systems modernization project. As we successfully deployed, our final major commercial line systems released this past weekend. We will follow a phased rollout approach, beginning with policies effective in October, for several States. This release represents our largest investment ever. In the Middle Market, Commercial products, and service capabilities, including a completely new commercial package policy, and we'll put us in a solid position to compete for both small business and mid-market accounts in the classes and locations. We've identified for future growth.
Speaker Change: Specific line of business detail for the second quarter of 2025, primarily included favorable development of $2 $4 million for personal auto $1 $1 million for homeowners $738000 for workers' compensation and $576000 for commercial multi.
Jeff Miller: Specific line of business detail for Q2 2025 primarily included favorable development of $2.4 million for personal auto, $1.1 million for homeowners, $738,000 for workers' compensation, and $576,000 for commercial multi-peril, offset partially by $2.3 million of unfavorable development for other commercial lines, which is primarily umbrella liability. The expense ratio of 32.2% for Q2 2025 increased modestly compared to 31.9% for the prior year quarter. The modest increase primarily related to an increase in underwriting-based incentive costs for agents and employees, offset to a large degree by ongoing impacts of expense reduction initiatives and a modest decrease in technology costs related to our ongoing systems modernization initiative.
Speaker Change: For personal lines, we're continued to successfully convert all remaining Legacy, homeowner policy, renewals to the new operating platform. And we are making great progress on the final release. To facilitate conversion of all Legacy, personal Auto, and umbrella policy renewals to the new platform, which we plan on deploying later this year.
Speaker Change: Apparel offset partially by $2 $3 million of unfavorable development for other commercial lines, which is primarily umbrella liability.
Speaker Change: Many thanks to all the Donald team members who are committed to bringing this multi-year systems modernization project to a successful completion. We're excited to be nearing, the finish line and look forward to the advantages. It will bring us
Jeff Miller: At this point, I'll turn the call over to Jeff Miller for a review of our financial results for the quarter. Thanks, Kevin. For the second quarter of 2025, net premiums earned of $231.8 million decreased 1.1% compared to the second quarter of 2024. Net premiums written decreased by 5.4% as lower new business volume and planned attrition were offset partially by continuing premium rate increases and solid retention levels. A 15.3% decrease in personal lines net written premium was offset partially by 1.9% growth in commercial lines. Rate increases achieved during the second quarter of 2025 averaged 7.8% in total and 8.7% when excluding workers' compensation.
Speaker Change: Especially in terms of adopting, new technologies for increased underwriting, insights, and operational efficiencies.
Speaker Change: The expense ratio of 32, 2% for the second quarter of 2025 increased modestly compared to 31, 9% for the prior year quarter.
Speaker Change: At this point, I'll turn a call over to Jeff Miller for a review of our financial results for the quarter.
Speaker Change: The modest increase primarily related to an increase in underwriting based incentive costs for agents and employees offset to a large degree by ongoing impacts of expense reduction initiatives and a modest decrease in technology costs related to our ongoing systems modernization initiative.
Jeff Miller: Thanks, Kevin. For the second quarter of 2025 net premiums earned of 231.8 million decreased 1.1% compared to the second quarter of 2024.
Jeff Miller: Net premiums written, decreased by 5.4%, as lower new business volume and planned attrition were offset partially by continuing premium, rate increases and solid retention levels.
Speaker Change: In summary, the underwriting income for the second quarter of 2025, combined with $12 $5 million of net investment income contributed to after tax net income of $16 $9 million.
Jeff Miller: In summary, the underwriting income for Q2 2025, combined with $12.5 million of net investment income, contributed to after-tax net income of $16.9 million, which was a significant increase compared to the after-tax net income of $4.2 million for Q2 2024. To provide more details about our results in our commercial and personal line segments and related initiatives, I will turn the call over to Jeff Hay.
Jeff Miller: The combined ratio was 97.7% for the second quarter of 2025, greatly improved compared to 103% for the prior year quarter, despite a slightly higher impact of weather related losses and comparable large fire loss. We experienced a 5 percentage point decrease in the core loss ratio compared to the prior year quarter. The core loss ratio excludes the impact of weather related losses, large fire losses and net development of reserves for losses incurred in prior accident years. compared to the prior year quarter, we achieved a modest 0.3 percentage point decrease in the commercial line's core loss ratio and a significant 12 percentage point decrease in the personal line's core loss ratio.
Speaker Change: Which was a significant increase compared to the after tax net income of $4 2 million for the second quarter of 2024 to.
Jeff Miller: If 15.3% decrease in personal Alliance net, written premium was offset partially by 1.9% growth in commercial lines rate increases achieved during the second quarter of 2025 averaged 7.8% in total and 8.7%, when excluding workers compensation,
Speaker Change: To provide more details about our results in our commercial and personal lines segments and related initiatives I will turn the call over to Jeff Hey.
Speaker Change: Thank you, Jeff I am pleased to report bottom line improvement this quarter and believe that this outcome is a direct and deliberate result of the strategies and diligent action plans that we put in place over the past few years to strengthen our underwriting discipline.
Jeffery Hay: Thank you, Jeff. I am pleased to report bottom-line improvement this quarter and believe that this outcome is a direct and deliberate result of the strategies and diligent action plans that we've put in place over the past few years to strengthen our underwriting discipline. Within our commercial lines of business, net premiums written in Q2 of 2025 slowed to a modest growth rate of 1.9%. This can be attributed to our continued intentional shedding of less profitable business. Additionally, as the market softens for new business, we are maintaining underwriting and pricing discipline rather than chasing business at underpriced levels. We experienced strong retention in desired business throughout Q2 of 2025 and continue to see the desired mix in new business written. For Q2, 69.2% of new business was written in our highly targeted classes that contributed to our higher-than-expected profitability.
Jeff Miller: % for the second quarter of 2025 greatly improved compared to 103% for the prior year quarter, despite a slightly higher impact of weather related losses and comparable. Large fire losses.
Speaker Change: Within our commercial lines of business net premiums written in the second quarter of 2025 slow to a modest growth rate of one 9%.
Jeff Miller: We experienced a 5 percentage Point decrease in the core loss ratio compared to the prior year quarter, the core loss ratio excludes the impact of weather related losses. Large fire losses and net development of reserves for losses. Incurred in Prior accident years.
Speaker Change: This can be attributed to our continued intentional shedding of less profitable business.
Speaker Change: Additionally, as the market softens for new business, we are maintaining underwriting and pricing discipline, rather than chasing business that under price levels, we experienced strong retention and desired business throughout the second quarter of 2025 and continue to see the desired mix of new business written.
Jeff Miller: The substantial improvement in the Personal Alliance Core Loss Ratio was due largely to the ongoing favorable impact of premium rate increases on net premiums earned for that segment. Weather-related losses of $25.8 million, or 11.1 percentage points of the loss ratio for the second quarter of 2025, increased from $24.7 million, or 10.6 percentage points for the prior year quarter. Commercial property losses from severe weather totaled $6.5 million and contributed 12 percentage points to the quarterly commercial multi-parallel loss ratio, down compared to 15.9 percentage points of the loss ratio for that line of business in the second quarter of 2024.
Jeff Miller: Compared to the prior year quarter, we achieved a modest 0.3 percentage Point decrease in the commercial lines core loss ratio and a significant 12 percentage Point decrease in the personal lines core loss ratio.
Jeff Miller: The substantial Improvement in the personal lines. Core loss ratio was due largely to the ongoing favorable impact of Premium rate increases on net premiums earned for that segment.
Speaker Change: For the second quarter 69, 2% of new business was written in our highly targeted classes that contributed to our higher than expected profitability. This outcome directly aligns with our strategies around targeted classes of business and geographic regions that I've mentioned in previous calls our overall quarterly rate and exposure increase came in at 11 one.
Jeffery Hay: This outcome directly aligns with the strategies around targeted classes of business and geographic regions that I've mentioned in previous calls. Our overall quarterly rate and exposure increase came in at 11.1%, excluding workers' compensation as we continue to emphasize driving the most rate in areas where the intersections of class, line of business, and geography are most challenged. Renewal rate increases were led by commercial multi-peril at 11.7%, followed by continued strong rate in the commercial auto line at 10.9%, and an increase in commercial umbrella to 10.1%. For Q2 of 2025, we saw a 14% decrease in the impact of large fire losses over the prior year quarter. This was driven by a decrease in the overall number of large fires, offset somewhat by a modest increase in their severity.
Jeff Miller: Weather related losses of 25.8 million or 11.1 percentage points of the loss ratio for the second quarter of 2025 increased from 24.7 million, or 10.6% points for the prior year quarter.
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Jeff Miller: The weather impact to the homeowners line was $15.8 million, or 46.4 percentage points of the homeowners loss ratio, which was substantially higher than 31.7 points of weather loss impact in the prior year quarter. In total, the quarterly weather claim impact was higher than the previous five-year average for the second quarter of 9.2 percentage points. One of our insurance subsidiaries incurred losses from an April 2025 wind and hail event that were limited to its $3 million catastrophe reinsurance retention with Donegal Mutual. Large fire losses, which we define as over $50,000 in damages, contributed 5.2 percentage points to the loss ratio for the second quarter of 2025, which was in line with 5.3 percentage points for the prior year quarter.
Jeff Miller: Commercial property losses from severe weather totaled, 6.5 million, and contributed 12 percentage points to the quarterly. Commercial multipar loss ratio down compared to 15.9 percentage points of the loss ratio for that line of business in the second quarter of 2024,
Speaker Change: And an increase in commercial umbrella to 10, 1% for the second quarter of 2025, we saw a 14% decrease and the impact of large fire losses over the prior year quarter. This was driven by a decrease in the overall number of large fires offset somewhat by a modest increase in their severity the second quarter Imp.
Jeff Miller: The weather impact to the homeowners line, was 15.8 million or 46.4 percentage points of the homeowners loss ratio, which was substantially higher than 31.7 points of whether loss impact in the prior year quarter in total, the quarterly weather claim impact was higher than the previous 5 year average for the second quarter of 9.2 percentage points.
Speaker Change: Packed from weather related losses decreased significantly by $4 3 million compared to the second quarter of 2024, resulting in a three three percentage point decrease in our loss ratio.
Jeffery Hay: The Q2 impact from weather-related losses decreased significantly by $4.3 million compared to Q2 2024, resulting in a 3.3 percentage point decrease in our loss ratio. From a profitability perspective, our Q2 commercial lines core loss ratio decreased 0.3 percentage points from the prior year quarter. A 6.1 percentage point decrease for commercial multi-peril and a 2.0 point decrease for commercial auto was offset somewhat by a 6.1 percentage point increase for workers' compensation. Turning now to loss trends we observed in Q2, workers' comp frequency continued to perform favorably. In recent quarters, we have observed increases in indemnity and medical severity that were in line with our historical trends. The workers' comp market continues to be very competitive, with pressure from continued negative rate filings from bureaus showing no signs of abating in 2025.
Jeff Miller: 1 of our insurance. Subsidiaries incurred losses from an April 2025, wind and hail event that were limited to its 3 million catastrophe, reinsurance retention with Donald Mutual.
Speaker Change: From a profitability perspective, our second quarter commercial lines core loss ratio decreased 0.3 percentage points from the prior year quarter.
Jeff Miller: A decrease in commercial fire losses was largely offset by an increase in homeowner's fire losses during the quarter. Our insurance subsidiaries experienced $3 million of net favorable development of reserves for losses incurred in prior accident years, representing a 1.3 point reduction in the loss ratio for the second quarter of 2025, compared to minimal impact of reserve development for the prior year quarter. Specific line of business detail for the second quarter of 2025 primarily included favorable development of $2.4 million for personal auto, $1.1 million for homeowners, $738,000 for workers' compensation, and $576,000 for commercial multi-peril, offset partially by $2.3 million of unfavorable development for other commercial lines, which is primarily umbrella liability.
Speaker Change: Six one percentage point decrease for commercial multi peril and a 2.0 point decrease for commercial auto was offset somewhat by a six one percentage point increase for workers compensation.
Jeff Miller: Large fire losses, which we Define as over 50,000 dollars in Damages, contributed 5.2% points to the loss ratio, for the second quarter of 2025, which was in line with 5.3 percentage points for the prior year quarter.
Jeff Miller: A decrease in commercial fire losses was largely offset by an increase in homeowners fire losses during the quarter.
Speaker Change: Turning now to loss trends, we observed in the second quarter Workers' comp frequency continued to perform favorably in recent quarters. We have observed increases in indemnity and medical severity that were in line with our historical trends the workers' comp market continues to be very competitive with pressure from continued negative rate filings from Bureau is showing no signs of abate.
Speaker Change: <unk> in 2025, despite these negative rate changes, we still consider ourselves rate adequate in this line due to continuing negative frequency trends and inject severity trends overall for commercial auto we saw a moderating of the increases in auto physical damage severity that I mentioned in last quarter's call reverting back to the longer term decreasing trend in line.
Jeff Miller: Our insurance subsidiaries experienced 3 million of net, favorable development of reserves for losses. Incurred in Prior accident, years representing a 1.3, Point reduction in the loss ratio. For the second quarter of 2025 compared to minimal impact of Reserve development. For the prior year, quarter specific line of business detail for the second quarter of 2025.
Jeffery Hay: Despite these negative rate changes, we still consider ourselves rate adequate in this line due to continuing negative frequency trends and in-check severity trends overall. For commercial auto, we saw a moderating of the increases in auto physical damage severity that I mentioned in last quarter's call, reverting back to the longer-term decreasing trend. In line with that observation, liability severity also reverted to the longer-term trend line for commercial auto, breaking from the past few quarters when we saw some increases in severity. In our other commercial lines of business, which is primarily umbrella liability, we experienced a single large bodily injury claim in the Q2 due to a severe auto accident in Pennsylvania, as well as increases in umbrella liability reserves related to a handful of other auto accidents that occurred in prior accident years.
Speaker Change: That observation liability severity also refer to the longer term trend line for commercial auto breaking from the past few quarters. When we saw some increases in severity in our other commercial lines of business, which is primarily umbrella liability we experienced a single large bodily injury claim in the second quarter due to a severe auto accident in Pennsylvania.
Jeff Miller: The expense ratio of 32.2% for the second quarter of 2025 increased modestly compared to 31.9% for the prior year quarter. The modest increase primarily related to an increase in underwriting-based incentive costs for agents and employees offset to a large degree by ongoing impacts of expense reduction initiatives and a modest decrease in technology costs related to our ongoing systems modernization initiatives.
Jeff Miller: Primarily included, favorable, development of 2.4 million, for personal Auto, 1.1 million, for homeowners 738,000 per workers compensation and 576,000 for commercial. Multi Peril offset, partially by 2.3 million of unfavorable development for other commercial lines, which is primarily umbrella liability.
Jeff Miller: The expense ratio of 32.2% for the second quarter of 2025 increased modestly compared to 31.9% for the prior year quarter.
Speaker Change: As well as increases in umbrella liability reserves related to a handful of other auto accidents that occurred in prior accident years commercial multi peril severity continues to moderate due to reduced frequency of large fires and favorable negative overall frequency severity and the general liability portion of commercial multi peril continues to moderate.
Jeffery Hay: Commercial multi-peril severity continues to moderate due to reduced frequency of large fires and favorable negative overall frequency. Severity in the general liability portion of commercial multi-peril continues to moderate, but reserve increases are still larger than the longer-term trend line. We continue to monitor the impact of social inflation that has become an insurance industry focus area, with the proliferation of attorney advertising, jury anchoring, third-party litigation financing, and the growth in nuclear verdicts. Unlike the Q1 2025, the Q2 was an active weather quarter. Jeff quantified the impact in his comments, but it is worth noting that we've had limited exposure to the recent devastating flash floods in the states of Texas and New Mexico, and at the timing of this call, have had no claims reported related to these events.
Jeff Miller: In summary, the underwriting income for the second quarter of 2025, combined with $12.5 million of net investment income, contributed to after-tax net income of $16.9 million, which was a significant increase compared to the after-tax net income of $4.2 million for the second quarter of 2024.
Jeff Miller: The modest increase primarily related to an increase in underwriting, based incentive costs for agents and employees. All set to a large degree by ongoing impacts of expense reduction initiatives and a modest decrease in technology costs related to our ongoing systems modernization initiative.
Speaker Change: But reserve increases are still larger than the longer term trend line. We continue to monitor the impact of social inflation that has become an insurance industry focus area with the proliferation of attorney advertising, Jerry anchoring third party litigation financing and the growth in nuclear verdicts. Unlike the first quarter of 2025, the second quarter.
In summary the underwriting income for the second quarter of 2025 combined with 12.5 million of net investment income, contributed to after tax. Net income of 16.9 million,
Jeff Hay: To provide more details about our results in our commercial and personal line segments and related initiatives, I will turn the call over to Jeff Hay. Thank you, Jeff. I am pleased to report bottom-line improvement this quarter and believe that this outcome is a direct and deliberate result of the strategies and diligent action plans that we have put in place over the past few years to strengthen our underwriting. Within our commercial lines of business, net premiums written in the second quarter of 2025 slow to a modest growth rate of 1.9%. This can be attributed to our continued intentional shedding of less profitable business.
Jeff Miller: Which was a significant increase compared to the after tax. Net income of 4.2 million for the second quarter of 2024.
Speaker Change: Was an active weather quarter, Jeff quantified the impact in his comments, but it is worth noting that we've had limited exposure to the recent devastating flash floods in the states of Texas, and New Mexico and at the timing of this call have had no claims reported related to these events. Our hearts go out to those who have lost family members friends and property and these horrific events.
Jeff Miller: To provide more details about our results in our commercial and personal line, segments, and related initiatives. I will turn the call over to Jeff. Hey,
Jeffery Hay: Our hearts go out to those who have lost family members, friends, and property in these horrific events. Turning to our personal line segment, the controls that we have deliberately put in place continue to limit new business in Q2. Even so, we wrote $1.2 million in new business in the quarter, a 29% increase over Q1 2025, as we have strategically and intentionally begun to release some of the new business controls to increase new business flow now that we have achieved rate adequacy across our footprint. Total personal lines net written premiums for Q2 declined by 15.3%, contributing to a decrease in the number of policies in force from year-end 2024 by 10.5%. The shrinking of our book can be attributed to two deliberate actions.
Speaker Change: Thank you, Jeff. I am pleased to report bottom line Improvement this quarter and believe that this outcome is a direct and deliberate result of the strategies and diligent action plans that we put in place over the past few years to strengthen our underwriting discipline.
Speaker Change: Turning to our personal line segment the controls that we have deliberately put in place continue to limit new business in the second quarter.
Speaker Change: Within our commercial lines of business, net premiums written in the second quarter of 2025 slow to a modest growth rate of 1.9%.
Speaker Change: Even so we wrote $1 2 million in new business in the quarter, a 29% increase over the first quarter of 2025, as we have strategically and intentionally begun to release some of the new business controls to increase new business flow now that we've achieved rate adequacy across our footprint total personal lines net written premiums for the second quarter.
Jeff Hay: Additionally, as the market softens for new business, we are maintaining underwriting and pricing discipline rather than chasing business at underpriced levels. We experienced strong retention in desired business throughout the second quarter of 2025 and continue to see the desired mix in new business written. For the second quarter, 69.2% of new business was written in our highly targeted classes that contributed to our higher than expected profitability. This outcome directly aligns with the strategies around targeted classes of business and geographic regions that I've mentioned in previous calls. Our overall quarterly rate and exposure increase came in at 11.1%, excluding workers' compensation, as we continue to emphasize driving the most rate in areas where the intersections of class, line of business, and geography are most challenged.
Speaker Change: This can be attributed to our continued intentional shedding of less profitable business.
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Jeffery Hay: 1, the significant slowdown in new business, 2, the targeted cancellation of certain segments for underwriting reasons. Both actions were intentional and necessary to improve portfolio quality, strengthen underwriting discipline, and stabilize profitability. The impact of these initiatives on our growth rate is expected to taper off soon. In addition to new business reductions, the non-renewal of a legacy Maryland book of business, as I've described in previous calls, is well underway. This exit had a large impact on the Q2's total premium decline for personal lines. Excluding this intentional non-renewal activity, the personal lines decline would have been in the 9% to 10% range. The impact of this initiative will continue until the non-renewals are completed in August of this year. Our real retention rate for personal lines, excluding the impact of the Maryland non-renewals, was a healthy 87.4%.
Speaker Change: Our intentional and necessary to improve portfolio quality strengthen underwriting discipline and stabilize profitability. The impact of these initiatives on our growth rate is expected to taper off soon in addition to new business reductions the non renewal of a legacy Maryland book of business as I have described in previous calls is well underway.
Jeff Hay: Renewal rate increases were led by commercial multi-peril at 11.7%, followed by continued strong rate in the commercial auto line at 10.9%. in an increase in commercial umbrella to 10.1%. For the second quarter of 2025, we saw a 14% decrease in the impact of large fire losses over the prior year quarter. This was driven by a decrease in the overall number of large fires, offset somewhat by a modest increase in their severity. The second quarter impact from weather-related losses decreased significantly by 4.3 million compared to the second quarter of 2024, resulting in a 3.3 percentage point decrease in our loss.
Speaker Change: This exit had a large impact on our second quarter's total premium decline for personal lines. Excluding this intentional non renewal activity. The personal lines decline would have been in the 9% to 10% range. The impact of this initiative will continue until the Nonrenewals are completed in August of this year, our real retention rate for personal lines.
Speaker Change: We experience strong retention and desired business throughout the second quarter of 2025 and continue to see the desired mix in new business renting. For the second quarter 69.2% of new business was written in our highly targeted classes that contributed to our higher than expected profitability. This outcome directly aligns with the strategies around targeted classes of business. And geographic regions that I've mentioned in previous calls. Our overall quarterly rate and exposure increase came in at 11.1% excluding workers compensation. As we continue to emphasize driving the most rate in areas where the intersections of class line of business. And geography are most challenged renewal rate increases were led by commercial multi-peril at 11.7%, followed by continued, strong rate in the commercial Auto line at 10.9% in an increase in commercial umbrella to 10.1% for the second quarter of 2025. We saw a 14% decrease in the impact of large fire losses over the
Speaker Change: <unk>, excluding the impact of the Maryland, non renewals was a healthy 87, 4% we recognize that over the past few years, our actions have understandably caused some uncertainty for our independent agents, who focus on personal lines strengthening agency engagement and managing these relationships is a key part of our strategy going forward. We've also.
Jeffery Hay: We recognize that over the past few years, our actions have understandably caused some uncertainty for our independent agents who focus on personal lines. Strengthening agency engagement and managing these relationships is a key part of our strategy going forward. We've also enhanced our capabilities to influence new business production quickly, a strength we intend to use with appropriate discipline. Our focus is now on balancing that agility with strategic intent, caution, and a long-term perspective. With this refined approach, we expect to begin making meaningful progress in terms of personal lines premium production by the end of this year. Kevin mentioned earlier the progress we have made in the conversion of our legacy homeowners policies to our new systems and products.
Jeff Hay: From a profitability perspective, our second quarter commercial line's core loss ratio decreased 0.3 percentage points from the prior year quarter. A 6.1 percentage point decrease for commercial multi-peril and a 2.0 point decrease for commercial auto was offset somewhat by a 6.1 percentage point increase for workers' compensation.
Speaker Change: Prior year quarter. This was driven by a decrease in the overall number of large fires offset somewhat by a modest increase in their severity. The second quarter impact from weather related losses, decreased significantly by 4.3 million compared to the second quarter of 2024 resulting in the 3.3 percentage Point decrease in our loss ratio.
Speaker Change: Hans our capabilities to influence new business production quickly our strength, we intend to use with appropriate discipline. Our focus is now on balancing that agility with strategic intent caution and a long term perspective with this refined approach we expect to begin making meaningful progress in terms of personal lines premium production by the end of this.
Speaker Change: From a profitability perspective, our second quarter commercial lines core loss ratio, decreased 0.3, percentage points from the prior year quarter.
Jeff Hay: Turning now to loss trends we observed in the second quarter, workers' comp frequency continued to perform favorably. In recent quarters, we have observed increases in indemnity and medical severity that were in line with our historical trends. The workers' comp market continues to be very competitive, with pressure from continued negative rate filings from bureaus showing no signs of abating in 2025. Despite these negative rate changes, we still consider ourselves rate adequate in this line due to continuing negative frequency trends and in-check severity trends overall. For commercial auto, we saw a moderating of the increases in auto physical damage severity that I mentioned in last quarter's call, reverting back to the longer-term decreasing trend.
Speaker Change: 6.1 percentage Point decrease for commercial multipar and a 2.0 Point decrease for commercial Auto was offset. Somewhat by a 6.1 percentage Point increase for workers compensation.
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Speaker Change: Kevin mentioned earlier the progress we have made and the conversion of our legacy homeowners policies to our new systems and products as we convert policies at their renewal dates we are putting in place larger deductibles, specifically related to wind and hail both of which had previously been at historically low levels as a part of our efforts to control the impact of evolve.
Jeffery Hay: As we convert policies at their renewal dates, we are putting in place larger deductibles, specifically related to wind and hail, both of which had previously been at historically low levels as a part of our efforts to control the impact of evolving weather patterns. Similar to our competitors, we are limiting roof coverage for older roofs. Both of these coverage adjustments result in lower renewal premiums, which will continue to impact our overall premium growth until the conversion is complete. However, we believe these changes are necessary to combat the increasing weather activity and roof repair costs, and that reduction in premium will be more than offset by lower claim impact moving forward. With our achievement of rate adequacy across our personal lines of business, our average rate and exposure increase in Q2 2025 slowed to 5.9%.
Speaker Change: Weather patterns. Additionally, similar to our competitors, we are limiting roof coverage for older roofs. Both of these coverage adjustments result in lower renewal premiums, which will continue to impact our overall premium growth until the conversion is complete. However, we believe these changes are necessary to combat the increasing weather activity and roof repair costs and.
Jeff Hay: In line with that observation, liability severity also reverted to the longer-term trend line for commercial auto, breaking from the past few quarters when we saw some increases in severity.
Jeff Hay: In our other commercial lines of business, which is primarily umbrella liability, we experienced a single large bodily injury claim in the second quarter due to a severe auto accident in Pennsylvania, as well as increases in umbrella liability reserves related to a handful of other auto accidents that occurred in prior accidents. Commercial multi-peril severity continues to moderate due to reduced frequency of large fires and favorable negative overall frequency. Severity in the general liability portion of commercial multi-peril continues to moderate, but reserve increases are still larger than the longer-term trend line.
Speaker Change: That reduction in premium will be more than offset by lower claim impact moving forward with our achievement of rate adequacy across our personal lines of business, our average rate and exposure increase in the second quarter of 2025 slowed to five 9% for personal auto we saw our rate and exposure increase of only four 5% we continue.
Speaker Change: Turning now to loss Trends we observed in the second quarter workers comp frequency continued to perform favorably. In recent quarters we have observed increases in Indemnity and medical severity that were in line with our historical Trends. The workers comp Market continues to be very competitive with pressure from continued negative rate filings from bureaus showing no signs of abating. In 2025, despite these negative rate changes, we still consider ourselves rate, adequate in this line, due to continuing negative frequency Trends. And in check severity Trends overall for commercial Auto, we saw a moderating of the increases in Auto physical damage. Severity that I mentioned in last quarter's call reverting back to the longer term. Decreasing Trend in line with that observation liability severity. Also referred it to the longer term trend line for commercial Auto braking from the past few quarters. When we saw some increases in severity and our other commercial lines of business which is primarily umbrella liability, we experienced a single large bodily injury claim in the second quarter, due to a severe auto accident and
Jeffery Hay: For personal auto, we saw a rate and exposure increase of only 4.5%. We continued to achieve higher levels of rate and exposure for homeowners, averaging 8.1% in Q2. We are actively refining our rate strategies in response to current loss costs and market conditions. The loss ratio for personal auto decreased in Q2 2025 by 16.2 percentage points compared to the prior year Q2. This improvement was primarily driven by improvement in the core loss ratio, with increased weather losses largely offset by more favorable prior year reserve development. For homeowners, the loss ratio increased by 12.4 percentage points compared to Q2 2024. This loss ratio increase was driven by 14.7 points of additional weather-related loss impact and 2.9 points of higher large fire activity, partially offset by 3.6 points of more favorable prior year reserve development.
Speaker Change: To achieve higher levels of rate and exposure for homeowners, averaging eight 1% in the quarter. We are actively refining our rate strategies in response to current loss costs and market conditions. The loss ratio for personal auto decreased in the second quarter of 2025 by 16.2 percentage points compared to the prior year quarter. This improvement was primarily.
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Jeff Hay: We continue to monitor the impact of social inflation that has become an insurance industry focus area with the proliferation of attorney advertising, jury anchoring, third-party litigation financing, and the growth in nuclear verdicts.
Speaker Change: Driven by improvement in the core loss ratio with increased weather losses, largely offset by more favorable prior year reserve development for homeowners the loss ratio increased by 12, four percentage points compared to the second quarter of 2020 for this loss ratio increase was driven by 14 seven points of additional.
Jeff Hay: Unlike the first quarter of 2025, the second quarter was an active wetter quarter. Jeff quantified the impact in his comments, but it is worth noting that we've had limited exposure to the recent devastating flash floods in the states of Texas and New Mexico, and at the timing of this call have had no claims reported related to these events.
Weather related loss impact and two nine points of higher large fire activity, partially offset by three six points of more favorable prior year reserve development. The core loss ratio improved by one six percentage points. The increase in large fire losses was driven by an increase in frequency offset partially by a modest decrease in some.
Jeff Hay: Our hearts go out to those who have lost family members, friends, and property in these horrific times.
Jeff Hay: Turning to our Personal Lines segment, the controls that we have deliberately put in place continue to limit new business in the second quarter. Even so, we wrote $1.2 million in new business in the quarter, a 29% increase over the first quarter of 2025, as we have strategically and intentionally begun to release some of the new business controls to increase new business flow now that we have achieved rate adequacy across our footprint. Total Personal Lines Net Written Premiums for the second quarter declined by 15.3%, contributing to a decrease in the number of policies in force from year-end 2024 by 10.5%.
Jeffery Hay: The core loss ratio improved by 1.6 percentage points. The increase in large fire losses was driven by an increase in frequency, offset partially by a modest decrease in severity. Weather-related losses increased by 41% over the prior year quarter as we experienced significant wind and hail activity across our Greater Midwest, Michigan, and Mid-Atlantic regions in all three months of Q2 2025.
Speaker Change: Commercial multi-peril. Severity continues to moderate due to reduced frequency of large fires and favorable negative. Overall frequency severity in the general. Liability portion of commercial multi, Peril continues to moderate but Reserve increases are still larger than the longer term trend line. We continue to monitor the impact of social inflation that has become an insurance industry. Focus area with the proliferation of attorney advertising, jury anchoring, third-party litigation financing and the growth and nuclear verdicts. I'd like to first quarter of 2025. The second quarter was an active weather quarter, Jeff Quantified, the impact in his comments but it is worth noting that we've had limited exposure. To the recent devastating flash, floods in the states of Texas and New Mexico. And at the timing of this call have had no claims reported related to these events. Our hearts go out to those who have lost family members, friends and property in these horrific events.
Speaker Change: Weather related losses increased by 41% over the prior year quarter, as we experienced significant wind and hail activity across the greater Midwest, Michigan and mid Atlantic regions and all three months of the second quarter of 2025, we believe that many of the deliberate actions that I've outlined today, including our selective non ring.
Jeffery Hay: We believe that many of the deliberate actions that I've outlined today, including our selective non-renewal strategies in commercial lines, shrinking of our personal lines property exposure, and controlling coverage terms on converted policies, helped to reduce significantly the losses we would have incurred in the absence of those actions. I'm also pleased to share that the rate adjustments we've implemented over the past several years limited the increase in the Q2 weather loss ratio relative to our previous 5-year average to only 1.9 percentage points, which is notable when considering the weather losses were 37% higher than the previous 5-year average for the Q2. I will now turn the call over to Dan DeLamater for an update on our operational strategies and developments. Dan?
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Speaker Change: Turning to our personal line segment, the controls that we have deliberately put in place. Continue to limit new business in the second quarter. Even so we wrote 1.2 million in new business in the quarter. A 29% increase over the first quarter of 2025 as we have strategically and intentionally begun to release some of the new business controls to increase new business flow. Now that we have achieved rate adequacy across our footprint, total personal lines, net, written premiums, for the psyche.
Jeff Hay: The shrinking of our book can be attributed to two deliberate actions. One, the significant slowdown in new business, and two, the targeted cancellation of certain segments for underwriting. Both actions were intentional and necessary to improve portfolio quality, strengthen underwriting discipline, and stabilize profitability.
Speaker Change: I'm also pleased to share that the rate adjustments, we've implemented over the past several years limited the increase in the second quarter weather loss ratio relative to our previous five year average to only one nine percentage points, which is notable when considering the weather losses were 37% higher than the previous five year average for the second quarter.
Jeff Hay: The impact of these initiatives on our growth rate is expected to taper off soon. In addition to new business reductions, the non-renewal of a legacy Maryland Book of Business, as I have described in previous calls, is well underway. This exit had a large impact on the second quarter's total premium decline for persons. Excluding this intentional non-renewal activity, the personal lines decline would have been in the 9-10% range.
Speaker Change: I will now turn the call over to Dan Delamater for an update on our operational strategies and developments Dan. Thank you, Jeff as we assess our operational performance for the first half of the year I will first provide an update on our efficiency initiatives and the expense reduction efforts. We have discussed in previous calls for the second quarter of 2025, we operated at an.
W. Daniel DeLamater: Thank you, Jeff. As we assess our operational performance for H1 of the year, I will first provide an update on our efficiency initiatives and the expense reduction efforts we have discussed in previous calls. For Q2 2025, we operated at an expense ratio of 32.2%, which continues to follow an excellent trajectory when excluding the impact of higher projected incentive payments for agents and employees that are based on our underwriting performance. By comparison, you will recall that our expense ratio stood at 31.9% for Q2 2024 and 34.2% for Q2 2023. We're pleased that we continue to realize significant improvement from our investments in automation and our expense management initiatives. Together, these efforts allowed us to operate at an expense ratio of 33.4% for H1 2025.
Jeff Hay: The impact of this initiative will continue until the non-renewals are completed in August of this year. Our real retention rate for personal lines excluding the impact of the Maryland non-renewals was a healthy 87.4%.
Speaker Change: Vince ratio of 32, 2%, which continues to follow an excellent trajectory when excluding the impact of higher projected incentive payments for agents and employees that are based on our underwriting performance by comparison, you will recall that our expense ratio stood at 31, 9% for the second quarter of 2024 and 34, 2%.
Jeff Hay: We recognize that over the past few years, our actions have understandably caused some uncertainty for our independent agents who focus on personal. Strengthening agency engagement and managing these relationships is a key part of our strategy going forward. We've also enhanced our capabilities to influence new business production quickly, a strength we intend to use with appropriate discipline. Our focus is now on balancing that agility with strategic intent, caution, and a long-term perspective.
Speaker Change: For the second quarter of 2023, we're pleased that we continue to realize significant improvements from our investments in automation and our expense management initiatives. Together. These efforts allowed us to operate at an expense ratio of 33, 4% for the first half of 2025, despite higher incentive accruals. This compares favorably to our <unk>.
Jeff Hay: With this refined approach, we expect to begin making meaningful progress in terms of personal lines premium production by the end of this year. Kevin mentioned earlier the progress we have made in the conversion of our legacy homeowners policies to our new systems and products. As we convert policies at their renewal dates, we are putting in place larger deductibles, specifically related to wind and hail, both of which had previously been at historically low levels, as a part of our efforts to control the impact of evolving weather patterns. Additionally, similar to our competitors, we are limiting roof coverage for older roofs.
W. Daniel DeLamater: Despite higher incentive accruals, this compares favorably to our expense ratio of 33.8% for H1 2024 and 35.3% for H1 2023. We're starting to come down off of the 2024 peak expense impact of our ongoing systems modernization project. We expect that in the coming years, we'll continue to experience a lower impact on our operating expense metrics from costs related to this project. Through multiple targeted initiatives across every department in the organization, we remain on pace to meet our year-end 2025 expectation of reducing our expense ratio by 2 points from our original business plan projection for 2024. This reduction is the product of dozens of intentional efforts, large and small. I'm proud of our leadership team and our entire staff for their thoughtfulness and commitment to this achievement.
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Speaker Change: Large impact on the second quarter's total premium decline for personal lines, excluding this intentional non-renewal activity. The personal lines decline would have been in the 9 to 10% range. The impact of this initiative will continue until the non-renewals are completed in August of this year. Our real retention rate for personal lines, excluding the impact of the Maryland, non-renewals was a healthy 87.4%. We recognize that over the past few years, our actions have understandably caused some uncertainty for our independent agents, who focus on personal lines, strengthening agency engagement, and managing these relationships as a key part of our strategy going forward. We've also enhanced our capabilities to influence new business production quickly a strength, we intend to use with appropriate discipline, our focus is now on balancing that agility with strategic intent caution and the long-term perspective with this refined approach, we expect to begin making meaningful progress in terms of personal lines, premium production by the end of this year.
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Speaker Change: Expense metrics from costs related to this project do multiple targeted initiatives across every department in the organization, we remain on pace to meet our year end 2025 expectation of reducing our expense ratio by two points from our original business plan projection for 2020 for this reduction is the product of dozens of intentional efforts large and <unk>.
Jeff Hay: Both of these coverage adjustments result in lower renewal premiums, which will continue to impact our overall premium growth until the conversion is However, we believe these changes are necessary to combat the increasing weather activity and roof repair costs, and that reduction in premium will be more than offset by lower claim impact moving forward. With our achievement of rate adequacy across our personal lines of business, our average rate and exposure increase in the second quarter of 2025 slowed to 5.9%. For personal auto, we saw a rate and exposure increase of only 4.5%. We continue to achieve higher levels of rate and exposure for homeowners, averaging 8.1% in the quarter.
Speaker Change: Kevin mentioned earlier the progress, we have made in the conversion of our Legacy homeowners policies to our new systems and products as we convert policies at their renewal dates. We are putting in place larger deductibles specifically related to wind and hail both of which had previously been at historically, low levels as a part of our efforts to control the impact of evolving weather patterns. Additionally, similar to our competitors. We are limiting roof coverage for older roofs, both of these coverage adjustments result in lower renew,
Speaker Change: Small and I'm proud of our leadership team and our entire staff for their thoughtfulness and commitment to this achievement and to ensure that these improvements and efforts are sustained we have launched an entirely new budgeting an expense tracking process and accountability protocol as Kevin mentioned, we are in the final planning stages of our annual state strategy sessions and an annual multi day.
W. Daniel DeLamater: To ensure that these improvements and efforts are sustained, we have launched an entirely new budgeting and expense tracking process and accountability protocol. As Kevin mentioned, we are in the final planning stages of our annual state strategy sessions. In an annual multi-day planning summit, we bring together a cross-departmental mix of several dozen professionals, including senior, departmental, and regional leadership, along with important departmental contributors. Together, they'll define our product mix, rate strategy, marketing strategy, and growth objectives in every state and line of business where we write. These sessions are especially important as we underwrite property books in increasingly weather-prone states and regions, but they also help to steer our regional marketing and underwriting teams, product teams, and national accounts team toward appropriate product mix and appropriate growth plans across all lines and classes.
Speaker Change: Planning summit, we bring together across departmental mix of several dozen professionals, including senior departmental and regional leadership, along with important departmental contributors together they will define our product mix right strategy marketing strategy and growth objectives in every state and line of business, where we write these sessions are especially important.
Jeff Hay: We are actively refining our rate strategies in response to current loss costs and market conditions. The loss ratio for personal auto decreased in the second quarter of 2025 by 16.2 percentage points compared to the prior year quarter. This improvement was primarily driven by improvement in the core loss ratio, with increased weather losses largely offset by more favorable prior year reserve development. For homeowners, the loss ratio increased by 12.4 percentage points compared to the second quarter of 2024. This loss ratio increase was driven by 14.7 points of additional weather-related loss impact and 2.9 points of higher large fire activity, partially offset by 3.6 points of more favorable prior year reserve development.
Speaker Change: As we underwrite property books, and increasingly weather prone states and regions, but they also help to steer our regional marketing and underwriting teams product teams and national accounts team toward appropriate product mix and appropriate growth plans across all lines and classes. Our teams are aligned and highly engaged in our monthly portfolio monitoring meetings provide transparency.
Speaker Change: Premiums which will continue to impact our overall premium growth until the conversion is complete. However we believe these changes are necessary to combat the increasing weather activity and roof repair costs. And that reduction in premium will be more than offset by lower claim. Impact, moving forward with our achievement, a rate adequacy across our personal lines of business, our average rate and exposure increase in the second quarter of 2025 slowed, to 5.9% for personal Auto. We saw a rate in exposure increase of only 4.5%. We continue to achieve higher levels of rate and exposure for homeowners. Averaging 8.1% in the quarter. We are actively refining our rate strategies in response to current loss costs and market conditions. The loss ratio from personal Auto decreased in the second quarter of 2025 by 16.2 percentage points compared to the prior year quarter. This Improvement was primarily driven by Improvement in the core loss, ratio with increased weather losses. Largely offset by more favorable prior year.
W. Daniel DeLamater: Our teams are aligned and highly engaged, and our monthly portfolio monitoring meetings provide transparency and accountability toward our state-by-state objectives. As a matter of fact, we continue to see the benefits of these efforts as we mitigate our exposure to severe weather, especially in active times like Q2 2025, as you heard Jeff mention. These efforts are ongoing and will require continued focus in the future, but we are encouraged by the results that they're already yielding. One overarching challenge that our entire organization is focused on is top-line growth. We're proud to operate from a place of bottom-line strength, but we also recognize the need to close the gaps we're seeing in new business against our 2025 business plan. Rate achievement is clearly important, and we are not interested in chasing underpriced new business.
Speaker Change: And accountability toward our state by state objectives as a matter of fact, we continue to see the benefits of these efforts as we mitigate our exposure to severe weather, especially inactive times like the second quarter of 2025 as you heard Jeff mentioned. These efforts are ongoing and will require continued focus in the future, but we are encouraged.
Jeff Hay: The core loss ratio improved by 1.6 percentage points.
Jeff Hay: The increase in large fire losses was driven by an increase in frequency, offset partially by a modest decrease in... Weather-related loss has increased by 41% over the prior year quarter as we experienced significant wind and hail activity across our greater Midwest, Michigan, and Mid-Atlantic regions in all three months of the second quarter of 2025.
Speaker Change: By the results that they're already yielding.
Speaker Change: One overarching challenge that our entire organization is focused on is topline growth. We're proud to operate from a place of Bottomline strength, but we also recognize the need to close the gaps we're seeing in new business against our 2025 business plan rate achievement is clearly important and we are not interested in chasing underpriced new business, we continue to engage.
Speaker Change: Reserve development for homeowners the loss ratio increased by 12.4% points. Compared to the second quarter of 2024. This loss ratio increase was driven by 14.7 points of additional weather related loss impact and 2.9 points of higher, large fire activity, partially offset. By 3.6 points of more favorable prior year Reserve development, the core loss ratio improved by 1.6 percentage points. The increase in large fire losses was driven by an increase in
Speaker Change: Frequency offset partially by a modest decrease in severity.
Jeff Hay: We believe that many of the deliberate actions that I've outlined today, including our selective non-renewal strategies and commercial lines, shrinking of our personal lines property exposure, and controlling coverage terms on converted policies, helped to reduce significantly the losses we would have incurred in the absence of those actions. I'm also pleased to share that the rate adjustments we've implemented over the past several years limited the increase in the second quarter weather loss ratio relative to our previous five-year average to only 1.9 percentage points, which is notable when considering the weather losses were 37 percent higher than the previous five-year average for the second quarter.
Speaker Change: With our marketing teams are independent agents, and our analytics and underwriting teams to identify profitable new business opportunities in states and classes that match our objectives with that we continue to keep a careful eye on economic inflation and the potential impacts of federal tariff policy as we monitor social inflation as an industry specific challenge are.
W. Daniel DeLamater: We continue to engage with our marketing teams, our independent agents, and our analytics and underwriting teams to identify profitable new business opportunities in states and classes that match our objectives. With that, we continue to keep a careful eye on economic inflation and the potential impacts of federal tariff policy. As we monitor social inflation as an industry-specific challenge, our claims team continues to watch the specific impact from medical inflation on our bodily injury claims. We are not necessarily seeing an outsized medical inflation in workers' compensation and other bodily injury claims, as these costs have remained relatively stable with increases generally in line with economic inflation. We are seeing the impact of general social inflationary trends and third-party litigation funding.
Speaker Change: Claims team continues to watch the specific impact for medical inflation on our bodily injury claims were not necessarily seeing an outsized medical inflation in workers compensation and other bodily injury claims as these costs have remained relatively stable with increases generally in line with economic inflation, but we are seeing the impact of general social inflationary trends and <unk>.
Weather related losses increased by 41% over the prior year quarter. As we experienced significant wind and hail activity across our greater Midwest, Michigan and Mid-Atlantic regions in all 3 months of the second quarter of 2025. We believe that many of the deliberate actions that have outlined today, including our selective, non-renewal strategies and Commercial lines, shrinking of our personal lines property, exposure and control in coverage terms on converted policies, helped to reduce significantly the losses. We would have incurred in the absence of those actions.
Dan Dellamater: I will now turn the call over to Dan Dellamater for an update on our operational strategies and developments. Dan? Thank you, Jeff.
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Speaker Change: Additionally, as discussed last quarter, we continue to recognize an increase in medical utilization rates via more medical visits more diagnostic testing and a greater use of prescription medications. All of these factors will continue to put pressure on claim costs in the affected lines of business and so we will continue to manage rate levels to achieve targeted return.
Dan Dellamater: As we assess our operational performance for the first half of the year, I will first provide an update on our efficiency initiatives and the expense reduction efforts we have discussed in previous calls. For the second quarter of 2025, we operated at an expense ratio of 32.2%, which continues to follow an excellent trajectory when excluding the impact of higher projected incentive payments for agents and employees that are based on our underwriting performance. By comparison, you will recall that our expense ratio stood at 31.9% for the second quarter of 2024 and 34.2% for the second quarter of 2023.
W. Daniel DeLamater: Additionally, as discussed last quarter, we continue to recognize an increase in medical utilization rates via more medical visits, more diagnostic testing, and a greater use of prescription medications. All of these factors will continue to put pressure on claim costs in the affected lines of business. We'll continue to manage rate levels to achieve targeted returns. We're obviously pleased with the favorable bottom-line results our team achieved for H1 2025. We believe this sets a solid foundation for the remainder of 2025. We will continue to engage with our agency partners to identify new business opportunities over the coming 6 months and beyond. I'll now turn it over to Tony Viozzi for an investment update. Tony?
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Speaker Change: We're obviously pleased with the favorable bottom line results our team achieved for the first half of 2025. We believe this sets a solid foundation for the remainder of 2025, and we will continue to engage with our agency partners to identify new business opportunities over the coming six months and beyond I'll now turn it over to Tony the Aussie for an investment update.
Speaker Change: I'm also pleased to share that the rate adjustments. We've implemented over the past several years. Limited the increase in the second quarter weather loss ratio relative to our previous 5 year average to only 1.9% points which is notable when considering the weather losses were 37% higher than the previous 5 year average for the second quarter. I will now turn the call over to Dan delimater for an update on our operational strategies and developments Dan. Thank you, Jeff as we assess our operational performance, for the first half of the year or first provide, an update on our efficiency initiatives and the expense. Reductions we have discussed in previous calls for the second quarter of 2025. We operated at an expense ratio of 32.2% which continues to follow. An excellent trajectory when excluding the impact of higher, projected incentive payments for agents and employees that are based on our underwriting performance,
Dan Dellamater: We're pleased that we continue to realize significant improvement from our investments in automation and our expense management initiatives. Together, these efforts allowed us to operate at an expense ratio of 33.4% for the first half of 2024 and 35.3% for the first half of 2023. We're starting to come down off of the 2024 peak expense impact of our ongoing systems modernization project, and we expect that in the coming years we'll continue to experience a lower impact on our operating expense metrics from costs related to this project. Through multiple targeted initiatives across every department in the organization, we remain on pace to meet our year-end 2025 expectation of reducing our expense ratio by two points from our original business plan projection for 2024.
Speaker Change: Tony Thanks, Dan our long term investment strategy, along with opportunistic asset allocation continues to serve us well as we seek to preserve and grow our capital conservatively regarding portfolio mix, we continue to buy high quality bonds, while taking advantage of wider spreads in recent months that we.
Tony Viozzi: Thanks, Dan. Our long-term investment strategy, along with opportunistic asset allocation, continues to serve us well as we seek to preserve and grow our capital conservatively. Regarding portfolio mix, we continue to buy high-quality bonds while taking advantage of wider spreads in recent months that we expect will provide ongoing strength to our investment portfolio. During Q2 2025, net investment income rose to $12.5 million, an increase of 13.3% from Q2 2024. The average tax equivalent yield for the quarter was 3.64%, up from 3.40% for Q2 2024.
Speaker Change: Spectrum provide ongoing strength to our investment portfolio during the second quarter of 2025 net investment income rose to $12.5 million, an increase of 13, 3% from the second quarter of 2024, the average tax equivalent yield for the quarter was three.
Speaker Change: 364% up from 3.40% for the second quarter of 2024 market rates and spreads continued to be favorable and we continue to invest portfolio cash flow into much higher yielding bonds.
Dan Dellamater: This reduction is the product of dozens of intentional efforts, large and small, and I'm proud of our leadership team and our entire staff for their thoughtfulness and commitment to this achievement.
Tony Viozzi: Market rates and spreads continued to be favorable, we continued to invest portfolio cash flow into much higher yielding bonds. Also during Q2, we shifted a portion of our asset allocation out of US Treasury and agency debt into non-agency structured notes and tax-exempt municipal bonds. Cash flow for Q2 yielding 3.34% was reinvested at 5.67%. That 233 basis point spread on $90 million is projected to boost annual investment income by $2 million moving forward. Net investment gains for Q2 2025 totaled $1.5 million. Equity gains of $2.8 million were partially offset by $1.3 million in realized losses generated in a modest bond portfolio restructuring. Taking advantage of market opportunities during Q2, we were able to swap $26 million of bonds yielding 1.51% for bonds yielding 5.67%.
Speaker Change: During the second quarter, we shifted a portion of our asset allocation out of U S. Treasury and agency debt into non agency structured notes and tax exempt municipal bonds cash flow for the quarter, yielding 334% was reinvested at 567% that too.
Dan Dellamater: And to ensure that these improvements and efforts are sustained, we have launched an entirely new budgeting and expense tracking process and accountability protocol.
Dan Dellamater: As Kevin mentioned, we are in the final planning stages of our annual state strategy sessions. In an annual, multi-day planning summit, we bring together a cross-departmental mix of several dozen professionals, including senior, departmental, and regional leadership, along with important departmental contributors. Together, they'll define our product mix, rate strategy, marketing strategy, and growth objectives in every state and line of business where we write. These sessions are especially important as we underwrite property books in increasingly weather-prone states and regions, but they also help to steer our regional marketing and underwriting teams, product teams, and national accounts team toward appropriate product mix and appropriate growth plans across all lines and classes.
Speaker Change: Despite higher incentive acrs, this compares favorably to our expense ratio of 33.8% for the first half of 2024 and 35.3%. For the first half of 2023. We're starting to come down off of the 2024 Peak expense impact of our ongoing systems modernization project. And we expect that in the coming years, we'll continue to experience a lower impact on our operating expense metrics from costs related. To this project, do multiple targeted initiatives across every Department in the organization. We remain on Pace to meet our year-end 2025 expectation of reducing our expense ratio by 2 points, from our original business plan projection for 2024, this reduction is the product of dozens of intentional efforts, large and small and I'm proud of our leadership team and our entire staff for their thoughtfulness and commitment to this achievement. And to ensure that these improvements and efforts are sustained, we have launched an entirely new budgeting and expense tracking process and accountability protocol as Kevin mentioned. We
Speaker Change: 133 basis points spread on $90 million is projected to boost annual investment income by $2 million moving forward net investment gains for the second quarter of 2025 totaled $1 $5 million equity gains of $2 $8 million were partially offset.
Speaker Change: In the final planning stages of our annual state strategy sessions in an annual multi-day planning Summit. We bring together a cross departmental mix of several dozen professionals including senior departmental and Regional leadership along with important departmental contributors together, they'll Define our product, mix rate strategy, marketing strategy and growth objectives. In every state and line of business where we write.
Speaker Change: By $1.3 million and realized losses generated in a modest bond portfolio restructuring taken advantage of market opportunities during the quarter, we were able to swap $26 million of bonds, yielding 151% for bonds, yielding 5.67%. This.
Dan Dellamater: Our teams are aligned and highly engaged, and our monthly portfolio monitoring meetings provide transparency and accountability toward our state-by-state objectives. As a matter of fact, we continue to see the benefits of these efforts as we mitigate our exposure to severe weather, especially in active times like the second quarter of 2025, as you heard Jeff mention. These efforts are ongoing and will require continued focus in the future, but we are encouraged by the results that they are already yielding.
Speaker Change: Restructuring allowed us to add 416 basis points of yield on those funds while at the same time, improving credit quality and extending duration to lock in rates that we viewed as attractive we.
Tony Viozzi: This restructuring allowed us to add 416 basis points of yield on those funds, while at the same time improving credit quality and extending duration to lock in rates that we viewed as attractive. We will continue to selectively adjust asset allocation in response to opportunities the market presents. In closing, we are projecting about $135 million in portfolio cash flow over the next 12 months with an average yield of 3.50%. Today, we are investing at an average yield of 5.40%, adding to our non-agency structured notes, tax-exempt municipals, MBS, and corporate debt. We look forward to continuing opportunities to increase our average portfolio yield in the current environment. As of 30 June 2025, our book value increased to $16.62, a $0.38 improvement over $16.24 at 31 March 2025.
Speaker Change: We'll continue to selectively adjust the asset allocation in response to opportunities the market presents.
Dan Dellamater: One overarching challenge that our entire organization is focused on is top-line growth. We're proud to operate from a place of bottom-line strength, but we also recognize the need to close the gaps we're seeing in new business against our 2025 business plan. Rate achievement is clearly important, and we are not interested in chasing underpriced new business. We continue to engage with our marketing teams, our independent agents, and our analytics and underwriting teams to identify profitable new business opportunities in states and classes that match our objectives.
Speaker Change: In closing, we are projecting about $135 million in portfolio cash flow over the next 12 months with an average yield of 350%.
Speaker Change: These sessions are especially important as we underwrite property books, increasingly weather, prone, States, and regions. But they also help to steer our regional marketing and underwriting teams product teams. And national accounts team toward appropriate product mix and appropriate growth plans across all lines and classes. Our teams are aligned and highly engaged in our monthly portfolio, monitoring meetings, provide transparency and accountability toward our state-by-state objectives. As a matter of fact, we continue to see the benefits of these efforts as we mitigate our exposure to severe weather, a special, and active times, like the second quarter of 2025. As you heard, Jeff mentioned, these efforts are ongoing and will require continued focus in the future. But we are encouraged by the results that there are already yielding.
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Dan Dellamater: With that, we continue to keep a careful eye on economic inflation and the potential impacts of federal tariff policy. As we monitor social inflation as an industry-specific challenge, our claims team continues to watch the specific impact from medical inflation on our bodily injury claims. We are not necessarily seeing an outsized medical inflation in workers' compensation and other bodily injury claims, as these costs have remained relatively stable with increases generally in line with economic inflation. But, we are seeing the impact of general social inflationary trends and third-party litigation funding. Additionally, as discussed last quarter, we continue to recognize an increase in medical utilization rates via more medical visits, more diagnostic testing, and a greater use of prescription medications.
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Tony Viozzi: This increase in book value was primarily driven by strong underwriting results and growing investment income, as well as gains in the value of our equities and available-for-sale bond portfolio. With that, I will now turn it back to Kevin for closing remarks.
1 over arching challenge that our entire organization is focused on is Topline growth. We're proud to operate from a place of bottom line strength. But we also recognize the need to close the gaps. We're seeing in new business against our 2025 business plan rate. Achievement is clearly important and we are not interested in chasing underpriced new business, we continue to engage with our marketing teams, our independent agents, and our analytics and underwriting teams to identify profitable. New business opportunities in States and classes that match our objectives. With that, we continue to keep a careful eye on economic inflation and the potential impacts of federal tariff policy as we monitor social inflation. As an industry specific challenge, our claims team continues to watch the specific impact for medical inflation on
Speaker Change: As well as gains in the value of our equities and available for sale bond portfolio.
Kevin Burke: With that I will now turn it back to Kevin for closing remarks.
Kevin Burke: Thanks, Tony with a solid first half of 2025 in the books, we remain vigilant to ensure our team is fully aligned and engaged in the execution of our strategies and building on the positive momentum we achieved over this past year, we look forward to reporting on our progress and plans for the year ahead in future calls I'll now turn the call back to Karen.
Kevin Burke: Thanks, Tony. With a solid H1 2025 in the books, we remain vigilant to ensure our team is fully aligned and engaged in the execution of our strategies in building on the positive momentum we achieved over this past year. We look forward to reporting on our progress and plans for the year ahead in future calls. I'll now turn the call back to Karen. Thank you.
Speaker Change: Our bodily injury claims. We are not necessarily seeing an outsized medical inflation in workers compensation and other bodily, injury claims as these costs have remained relatively stable with increases generally in line with economic inflation. But we are seeing the impact of General Social inflationary Trends, and third-party litigation funding.
Dan Dellamater: All of these factors will continue to put pressure on claim costs in the affected lines of business, and so we'll continue to manage rate levels to achieve targeted returns.
Dan Dellamater: We're obviously pleased with the favorable bottom-line results our team achieved for the first half of 2025. We believe this sets a solid foundation for the remainder of 2025, and we will continue to engage with our agency partners to identify new business opportunities over the coming six months and beyond.
Karen: Thank you. Thank you Kevin while we requested and received questions in advance of today's call. We have worked answers to these questions into our prepared remarks. There are any additional questions. Please feel free to reach out to US. This now concludes the Donegal group's second quarter 2025 earnings webcast you may now disconnect.
Karen: Thank you, Kevin. While we requested and received questions in advance of today's call, we have worked answers to these questions into our prepared remarks. If there are any additional questions, please feel free to reach out to us. This now concludes The Donegal Group's Q2 2025 earnings webcast. You may now disconnect.
Tony Viazzi: I'll now turn it over to Tony Viazzi for an investment update. Tony? Thanks, Dan. Our long-term investment strategy, along with opportunistic asset allocation, continues to serve us well as we seek to preserve and grow our capital conservatively. Regarding portfolio mix, we continue to buy high-quality bonds while taking advantage of wider spreads in recent months that we expect will provide ongoing strength to our investment portfolio. During the second quarter of 2025, net investment income rose to $12.5 million, an increase of 13.3% from the second quarter of 2024. The average tax equivalent yield for the quarter was 3.64%, up from 3.40% for the second quarter of 2024.
Speaker Change: Additionally as discussed last quarter, we continue to recognize and increase in medical. Utilization rates via more medical visits more diagnostic testing and a greater use of prescription medications. All of these factors will continue to put pressure on claim costs in the affected lines of business. And so, we'll continue to manage rate levels to achieve targeted returns. We're obviously pleased with the favorable. Bottom line results are team achieved for the first half of 2025, we believe this sets a solid foundation for the remainder of 2025, and we will continue to engage with our agency, partners to identify new business opportunities, over the coming, 6, months and Beyond.
Speaker Change: I'll now turn it over to Tony vazzy for an investment update Tony thanks Dan, our long-term investment strategy along with opportunistic asset, allocation continues to serve us. Well, as we seek to preserve and grow our Capital conservatively regarding portfolio mix, we continue to buy high-quality bonds while taking advantage of wider. Spreads in recent months that we expect will provide ongoing strength to our Investment Portfolio. During the second quarter of 2025 net investment income, Rose to
Tony Viazzi: Market rates and spreads continue to be favorable, and we continue to invest portfolio cash flow into much higher-yielding bonds. Also during the second quarter, we shifted a portion of our asset allocation out of U.S. Treasury and agency debt into non-agency structured notes and tax-exempt municipal bonds. Cash flow for the quarter, yielding 3.34%, was reinvested at 5.67%. That 233 basis point spread on $90 million is projected to boost annual investment income by $2 million moving forward. Net investment gains for the second quarter of 2025 totaled $1.5 million. Equity gains of $2.8 million were partially offset by $1.3 million and realized losses generated in a modest bond portfolio restructuring.
Tony Viazzi: Taking advantage of market opportunities during the quarter, we were able to swap $26 million of bonds yielding 1.51% for bonds yielding 5.67%. This restructuring allowed us to add 416 basis points of yield on those funds, while at the same time improving credit quality and extending duration to lock in rates that we viewed as attractive. We will continue to selectively adjust asset allocation in response to opportunities the market presents. In closing, we are projecting about $135 million in portfolio cash flow over the next 12 months with an average yield of 3.50%. Today, we are investing at an average yield of 5.40%, adding to our non-agency structured notes, tax-exempt municipals, MBS, and corporate debt.
Speaker Change: Out of US Treasury and agency debt into non- agency, structured notes and tax exempt. Municipal bonds cash flow for the quarter. Yielding 3.34% was reinvested at 5.67% that 233 basis. Point spread on 90 million is projected to boost annual investment income by 2 million dollars moving forward. Net investment gains for the second quarter of 2025 totaled. 1.5 million Equity, gains of 2.8 million were partially offset by 1.3 million and realized losses generated in a modest Bond portfolio. Restructuring taking advantage of Market opportunities during the quarter. We were able to swap 26 million of bonds, yielding 1.51% for bonds yielding 5.67% this restructuring allowed us to add 400
Speaker Change: 16 basis points of yield on those funds while at the same time, improving credit quality and extending duration to lock in rates that we viewed as attractive.
Tony Viazzi: We look forward to continuing opportunities to increase our average portfolio yield in the current environment. As of June 30, 2025, our book value increased to $16.62, a 38-cent improvement over $16.24 at March 31, 2025. This increase in book value was primarily driven by strong underwriting results and growing investment income, as well as gains in the value of our equities and available-for-sale bond portfolio.
Speaker Change: We will continue to selectively, adjust asset allocation and response to opportunities to Market presents. In closing, we are projecting about 135 million in portfolio. Cash flow over the next 12 months with an average yield of 3.50%. Today, we are investing at an average yield of 5.40% adding to our non- agency structured notes.
Speaker Change: Tax exempt municipals MBS and corporate debt. We look forward to continuing opportunities to increase our average portfolio yield in the current environment.
Kevin Burke: With that, I will now turn it back to Kevin for closing remarks. Thanks, Tony. With a solid first half of 2025 in the books, we remain vigilant to ensure our team is fully aligned and engaged in the execution of our strategies and building on the positive momentum we achieved over this past year.
Speaker Change: As of June 30th, 2025 our book value increased to 16.62 a 38 Cent improvement over $16.24 at March 31st 2025 this increase in Book value was primarily driven by strong underwriting results and growing investment income as well as games in the value of our equities and available for sale Bond portfolio.
Kevin Burke: With that, I will now turn it back to Kevin for closing remarks.
Kevin Burke: We look forward to reporting on our progress and plans for the year ahead in future calls.
Operator: I'll now turn the call back to Karen. Thank you. Thank you, Kevin.
Operator: While we requested and received questions in advance of today's call, we have worked answers to these questions into our prepared remarks.
Speaker Change: Thanks Tony with a solid first half of 2025 in the books. We remain Vigilant to ensure our team is fully aligned and engaged in the execution of our strategies and building on the positive momentum. We achieved over this past year. We look forward to reporting on our progress and plans for the year ahead in future calls. I'll now turn the call back.
Operator: If there are any additional questions, please feel free to reach out to us.
Operator: This now concludes the Donegal Group second quarter 2025 earnings webcast. You may now disconnect.
Speaker Change: Thank you. Thank you. Kevin, while we request and receive questions in advance of today's call, we have worked answers to these questions into our prepared remarks. There are any additional questions, please feel free to reach out to us this. Now concludes the Donnell group, second quarter, 2025 earnings webcast. You may now disconnect