Q2 2025 ATI Inc Earnings Call

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David Weston: Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to ATI's second quarter 2025 earnings call. Today's discussion is being webcast online at atimaterials.com. Participating in today's call to share key points from our second quarter results are Kim Fields, President and CEO, and Don Newman, Executive Vice President and CFO. Before starting our prepared remarks, I would like to draw your attention to the supplemental presentation that accompanies this call. Those slides provide additional color and details on our results and outlook, and can also be found on our website at atimaterials.com. After our prepared remarks, we'll open the line for questions. As a reminder, all forward-looking statements are subject to various assumptions and caveats. These are noted in the earnings release and in the accompanying presentation. Now, I'll turn the call over to Kim.

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Thank you.

Good morning and welcome to ATI second quarter 2025 earnings call.

Today's discussion is being webcast online at ATIMaterials.com.

Participating in today's call to share key points from our second quarter results by Kim Fields president and CEO in Don Newman Executive Vice President and CFO.

Before starting our prepared remarks, I would like to draw your attention to the supplemental presentation that accompanies this call.

Those slides provide additional color and details on our results and Outlook and can also be found on our website at ATI materials.com.

After our prepared remarks, we'll open the line for questions.

As a reminder, our forward-looking statements are subject to various assumptions and caveats.

These are noted in the earnings release and in the accompanying presentation.

Now, I'll turn the call over to Kim.

Kim Fields: Thanks, Dave. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Q2 was another strong quarter for ATI. We continue to exceed expectations driven by operational performance and the high-value products we deliver for commercial jet engines. As the aerospace recovery accelerates, ATI is exceptionally well-positioned to grow in step with our customers and ahead of the market. Let's walk through the key financial results. Revenue grew 4% year over year, again exceeding $1.1 billion. Adjusted EBITDA reached $208 million, surpassing the top end of our guidance. Adjusted earnings per share came in at $0.74, also above our projected range. Our adjusted EBITDA margin reached 18.2%, a longstanding performance target. A key contributor was our high-performance materials and components segment, which delivered margins of 23.7%, a 350 basis point improvement from Q2 2024. This expansion reflects a favorable product mix, strong price, and operational execution.

Thanks Dave. Good morning everyone and thank you for joining us.

Q2 was another strong quarter for Ati. We continue to exceed expectations driven by operational performance and the high value products. We deliver for commercial jet engines

as the Aerospace recovery accelerates ATI is exceptionally well, positioned to grow in step with our customers and ahead of the market.

Let's walk through the key financial results.

Revenue grew 4% year-over-year again exceeding, 1.1 billion dollars.

Adjusted, Evita reached 208 million dollars for passing the top end of our guidance.

Adjusted earnings per share. Came in at 74 cents also above our projected range.

Our adjusted ebit da margin reached. 18.2% a long-standing performance Target?

A key contributor with our high-performance materials and component segment which delivered margins of 23.7%.

A 350 basis, point improvement from Q2 2024,

This expansion, reflects favorable product mix.

Kim Fields: We expect margin strength to build as A&D continues to lead our growth. Adjusted free cash flow was $93 million, a 94% increase year over year. We remain disciplined in our capital deployment and focus on working capital efficiency while making smart investments to support future growth and reliability. We also return capital to shareholders with conviction, executing $250 million in share repurchases during the quarter. That brings our total buyback since 2022 to over $800 million, and we still have $270 million remaining under our current Thrudge repurchase program. Based on our performance and the near-term commercial jet engine demand, we've raised the midpoint of our full-year guidance for adjusted EBITDA, EPS, and adjusted free cash flow. Our team is executing, our strategy is working, and our outlook is compelling. As we turn to the markets, let me begin with an exciting update.

Strong price and operational execution.

We expect margin strength to build As A and D continues to lead our growth.

Adjusted free. Cash flow was 93 million. A 94% increase year-over-year.

We remain disciplined in our capital deployment and focused on working capital efficiency while making smart investments to support future growth and reliability.

We also return Capital to shareholders with conviction executing 250 million in share repurchases during the quarter.

That brings our total buyback since 2022 to over 800 million dollars and we still have 270 million remaining under, our current authorized repurchase program.

Based on our performance and the near-term commercial jet engine. Demand we've raised the midpoint of our full year guidance for adjusted ebita Epps and adjusted free, cash flow.

Our team is executing, our strategy is working, and our outlook is compelling.

Kim Fields: We signed a new long-term guaranteed volume agreement with Boeing for airframe products. This contract is both an extension and an expansion of our partnership, covering long and flat-rolled products. It includes material from our new titanium alloy sheet operation in Paintillon, South Carolina. It's a clear validation of ATI as a long-term strategic supplier and a critical part of the aerospace supply chain. Earlier in the quarter, we announced a new significantly expanded agreement with Airbus. That agreement now positions ATI as Airbus' top supplier of titanium flat-rolled and long products. Both strategic contract wins signal that ATI is earning greater customer share. We're locking in long-term commitments and scaling in lockstep with the growing needs of the aerospace industry. These wins affirm the investments we've made in capacity, technology, and customer alignment. Some near-term volatility remains as the airframers balance inventory with supply chain realities. We anticipated this.

As we turn to the markets, let me begin with an exciting update. We signed a new long-term, guaranteed volume agreement with Boeing for airframe products.

This contract is both an extension and an expansion of our partnership covering long and flat rolled products.

It includes material from our new titanium alloy sheet operation in pel and South Carolina.

It's a clear validation of ATI is a long-term strategic supplier and a critical part of the Aerospace supply chain.

Earlier in the quarter, we announced a new significantly expanded agreement with Airbus.

That agreement now positions ATI, as airbuses, top supplier of titanium, flat, rolled and long products.

Both strategic contract wins signal that ATI is earning greater customer share.

We're locking in long-term, commitments, and scaling and lock step with the growing needs of the Aerospace industry.

Technology and customer alignment.

Some near-term, volatility remains as the air framers balanced inventory with supply chain realities.

Kim Fields: What matters is how we're positioned as the ramp and build rate accelerates. We're confident in our ability to deliver with reliability and scale. Moving on to commercial jet engines, the core of ATI's growth in 2025. In Q2, we grew commercial jet engine sales 27%. Year to date, we're up 31% year over year through the first half of 2025. We expect full-year jet engines growth to exceed 20%. And we believe there's more upside ahead. Customers continue to report expanding backlogs and are raising production forecasts to double-digit CAGRs through the end of the decade. MRO activity is climbing steadily, particularly for next-gen engines like LEAP, as GE shared on their earnings call earlier this month. ATI is heavily weighted toward those next-gen platforms with more than twice the opportunity of legacy programs. That shift in the install base represents sustained, profitable growth for ATI through the 2030s.

We anticipated this.

What matters is how we're positioned as the ramp and build rate accelerates.

We're confident in our ability to deliver with reliability and scale.

Moving on to commercial jet engines, the core of ati's growth in 2025.

In Q2 we grew commercial jet engine sales 27%.

Year to date. We're up 31% year-over-year through the first half of 2025.

We expect full year jet engines growth to exceed 20%.

And we believe there's more upside ahead.

Customers continue to report expanding backlogs and our raising production forecasts to double-digit kurz through the end of the decade.

Mro activity is climbing, steadily, particularly for next gen engines like leap as GE shared on their earnings call earlier this month.

ATI is heavily weighted toward those next-gen platforms with more than twice, the opportunity of Legacy programs.

Kim Fields: These are long-term contracts with high-value content, and they align perfectly with our differentiated capabilities. Defense remains a reliable and sustainable growth driver for ATI in 2025, and we're on track to deliver our third straight year of double-digit growth. We're securing strong positions on several key international programs. As the US has deprioritized ground vehicle programs, opportunities in Europe are leading to increased commitments for high-value materials like armor plate and arrow-grade titanium. We're proud to be part of the US Army's FLARA program, the successor to the Black Hawk. ATI's materials play a critical role on the MV-75, flying faster and farther, enabling the performance our soldiers need to address future conflicts. Our titanium, specialty steels, and forgings are proven to perform in the most challenging environments.

that shift in the installed base represents sustained profitable growth for Ati through the 2030s

These are long-term contracts with high value content and they align perfectly with our differentiated capabilities.

Defense remains a reliable and sustainable growth driver for Ati in 2025. And we're on track to deliver our third, straight year of double-digit growth.

We're securing strong positions on several key international programs, as the U.S. has de-prioritized ground vehicle program opportunities. In Europe, this is leading to increased commitments for high-value materials, like armor plate and aerospace-grade titanium.

We're proud to be part of the US Army's Florida program the successor to the Blackhawks.

ATI's materials play a critical role in the MV7 5, flying faster and farther, enabling the performance our soldiers need to address future conflicts.

Kim Fields: As we look to the second half of the year, we expect delivery timing in naval nuclear programs, titanium armor plate, and rotary wing forgings to contribute meaningfully to our continued defense growth. Outside of A&D, specialty energy remains an exciting growth opportunity with rising demand in commercial nuclear and land-based gas turbines. We are gaining share in these markets and making discrete investments to expand supporting capacity. Our strategy has positioned us well, and it is delivering. The team is executing with consistency, and we're scaling with purpose, investing where it matters most to serve our customers and deliver value to our shareholders. The first half of 2025 confirms we are on the right path. Long-term agreements and customer commitments give us visibility and confidence in the future. Our strategic focus is clear: to achieve consistent, profitable growth through innovation, performance, and partnerships.

Our titanium specialty, Steels and forgings are proven to perform in the most challenging environments.

As we look to the second half of the year, we expect delivery timing in Naval nuclear programs titanium, armor plate, and rotary Wing forgings to contribute, meaninglessly to our continued defense growth

Outside of Andy.

Specialty, energy remains an exciting growth opportunity with Rising demand in commercial, nuclear, and land-based gas turbines. We are gaining sharing these markets and making discrete Investments to expand supporting capacity.

Our strategy has positioned us well and it is delivering. The team is executing with consistency and we're scaling with purpose investing where it matters most to serve our customers and deliver value to our shareholders.

The first half of 2025 confirms we are on the right path.

Long-term agreements and customer commitments. Give us visibility and confidence in the future.

Kim Fields: We believe the best is yet to come for ATI, our customers, and our shareholders. With that, I will turn it over to Don.

Our strategic focus is clear: to achieve consistent, profitable growth through innovation, performance, and partnerships.

We Believe The Best Is Yet To Come for Ati. Our customers and our shareholders.

With that. I will turn it over to Don.

Don Newman: Thanks, Kim. I'll provide additional insights into our second quarter and first half performance, and then look ahead to Q3 and the full-year outlook. In Q2, we delivered earnings, EBITDA margins, and cash flow ahead of expectations. Revenue in the second quarter was approximately $1.14 billion, an increase of 4% year over year. In Q2, our adjusted EBITDA was nearly $208 million, delivering a 14% increase year over year and a 7% increase over a strong first quarter. Contribution margins in the second quarter were almost 50%. Overall, adjusted EBITDA margin for Q2 was above 18%. Through the first half of 2025, our revenue growth is 7% above 2024, and adjusted EBITDA growth is 21% above 2024. You can clearly see the benefits of price, volume, and mix in our sales, even ahead of the full effects of the commercial aero production rim.

Thanks Kim.

All provide additional insights into our second quarter and first half performance and then look ahead to Q3 and the full year outlook.

Mq2, we delivered earnings iaam margins and cash flow ahead of expectations.

Revenue in the second quarter was approximately 1.14 billion dollars an increase of 4% year-over-year.

In Q2, our adjusted evadav was nearly 208% increase year-over-year and a 7% increase over a strong first quarter.

Contribution margins, in the second quarter were almost 50%.

Overall, adjust the bada margin for Q2 was above 18%.

Through the first half of 2025, our Revenue growth is 7% above 2024 and adjust the, but dog. Growth is 21% of 2024

Don Newman: Our continued efforts to optimize cost and improve performance within our operations are also key drivers. As noted, HPMC margins were up 130 basis points sequentially and 350 basis points year over year. Our advanced alloys and unique forging capabilities are at the center of profitable growth within this segment. We expect this performance and momentum to continue building into the coming year. Our sustained, strong performance in A&D drives continuing margin expansion. With our contractually secure customer base come higher margins from increased volumes, pricing, and product mix. As anticipated, AANS took a sequential step back in Q2 after a strong Q1. This reflects timing impacts in airframe, defense, and non-A&D markets. That said, AANS' Q2 performance was actually above our expectations, with 50 basis points of sequential decline.

You can clearly see the benefits of price, volume, and mix in our sales, even ahead of the full effects of the commercial Aero production ramp.

Our continued efforts to optimize cost and improve performance within our operations are also key drivers.

Year over year, our Advanced Alloys and unique forging capabilities are at the center of profitable growth within this segment.

We expect this performance and momentum to continue building into the coming year.

Our sustained strong performance in AMD drives continuing margin expansion.

With our contractually secure customer base. Come higher margins from increased volumes.

Pricing.

And product mix.

As anticipated. A ANS took a sequential step back in Q2 after a strong q1.

This reflects timing impacts in airframe defense and knownand markets.

Don Newman: We anticipate reversing course in the second half, based on the demand, mix, and volume we see in the segment's core markets. We're excited about the progress and results we delivered this quarter, with $93 million of positive adjusted free cash flow. The favorable results reflect our focus on reducing seasonality in our quarterly cash generation. Our goal? To improve not just cash conversion efficiency, but also quarter-to-quarter cash generation and predictability. We continue to tighten execution around inventory and receivables, and the results are notable compared to past cycles. We expect more favorability in the second half, with managed working capital still at 36.5% of sales through Q2. That's compared to our target of less than 30%. The cash generation improvements in the first half strengthen our balance sheet and increase optionality looking forward.

That said, a ANS Q2 performance was actually above our expectations with 50 basis points of sequential decline.

We anticipate reversing course in the second half.

Based on the demand, mix and volume. We see in the segments core markets.

We're excited about the progress and results. We delivered this quarter with 93 million of positive, adjusted free, cash flow.

The favorable results, reflect our focus on reducing seasonality in our quarterly cash generation.

Our goal.

To improve not just cash conversion efficiency, but also quarter to quarter cash generation and predictability.

We continue to tighten execution around inventory and receivables and the results are notable compared to past Cycles.

We expect more favorability in the second, half with manage working capital still at 36.5% of sales through Q2.

That's compared to our Target of less than 30%.

Don Newman: Coming off of a strong first half, let's take a closer look at the rest of 2025, including our guidance for Q3. The core of A&D remains robust, with an even brighter outlook expected in 2026. At the same time, we are balancing our near-term expectations. Jet engine remains our largest end market and a key growth driver for the rest of the year. Timing in airframe, defense, and our non-A&D markets keep us on track to deliver second-half revenue growth in the upper single-digit percentage range. As a result, we favorably shifted our range estimates for adjusted EBITDA, EPS, and adjusted free cash flow, capturing our first-half performance. We believe upside beyond our current range is tied to an inflection point for airframe growth and delivery timing in defense. Looking ahead into 2026, we expect growth to continue in all A&D markets.

The cash generation improvements in the first half. Strengthen our balance sheet and increase optionality looking forward.

Coming off of a strong first half. Let's take a closer look at the rest of 2025 including our guidance for Q3.

The core of A and D remains robust with an even brighter Outlook expected in 2026.

At the same time we are balancing our near-term, expectations.

Jet engine remains our largest in market and a key growth driver for the rest of the year.

Timing and airframe defense and our non andd markets. Keep us on track to deliver second half Revenue growth in the upper single digit percentage range.

As a result, we favorably shifted, our range estimates for adjusted e ba Epps and adjusted free cash flow. Capturing our first half performance.

We Believe upside beyond our current range is tied to an inflection point for airframe growth and delivery timing in defense.

Don Newman: With these dynamics in play, we expect Q3 performance to modestly increase from Q2, with more growth building in our fourth quarter. For the third quarter, we are setting our guidance range for adjusted EBITDA at $200 million, $210 million. That equates to an adjusted earnings per share of $69 million, $0.75 per share. For the full year, we have narrowed our range to $810 million, $840 million of adjusted EBITDA, raising our midpoint by $5 million. With this balanced approach, the corresponding range for adjusted EPS is now $2.90 to $3.07 per share. As you model your estimates, I would consider the following for our end markets. For the full year, we see greater than 20% growth in jet engines. We expect double-digit defense growth in the full year, reflecting the strength Kim shared.

Looking ahead into 2026. We expect growth to continue in all AMD markets.

With these Dynamics. In play. We expect Q3 performance to modestly increase from Q2 with more growth building in our fourth quarter.

For the third quarter. We are setting our guidance range for adjusted, the bada at 200 to 210 million.

That equates to an adjusted earnings per share of 69 to 75 cents per share.

For the full year, we have narrowed our range to 810 to 840 million of adjusted. EBA raising our midpoint by 5 million.

With this balanced approach, the corresponding range for adjusted EPS is now $2.90 to $37 per share.

As you model your estimates, I would consider the following for our end markets for the full year. We see greater than 20% growth in jet engines.

Don Newman: We're holding our full-year airframe estimates flat from 2024 levels, driven by inventory destocking by our customers. We still see offsets in our non-A&D markets, expected to decline from 2024 levels in the range of 5% to 7%. Key factors for these markets are driven by customer behavior, including tariff concerns impacting order activities, inventory management, and conservatism around the macros in our industrial markets. I would expect our EBITDA margins to be at or above 18% for the second half and full year, delivering on the range that we've been targeting for several years. At the segment level, in the second half of the year, we anticipate HPMC margins to exceed 24% and AANS margins to be in the range of 15% to 16%, consistent with previous expectations.

We expect double digit defense growth in the full year, reflecting the strength Kim shared

We're holding our full year. Airframe estimates flat from 2024 levels driven by inventory, D, stocking by our customers.

We still see offsets in our knownand markets expected to decline from 2024 levels in the range of 5 to 7%.

Key factors for these markets are driven by customer Behavior including tariff concerns, impacting order activities, Inventory, management, and conservatism around the macros in our industrial markets.

I would expect our evida margins to be at or above 18% for the second half and full year delivering on the Range that we've been targeting for several years.

Don Newman: The cash flow strength we have delivered in the first half allows us to narrow and increase our range of full-year adjusted free cash flow to $270 million to $350 million. This represents a $10 million increase to the midpoint of the range. As you may recall, we generated $70 million of cash in late 2024 by selling non-core assets. Our 2025 CapEx and free cash flow include reinvesting those sales proceeds as additional CapEx. That brings our free cash flow to net income ratio into the range of our 90% target net of the redeployed capital. We will continue to hold CapEx at $260 million to $280 million. I will note that with continuing customer investment and prudent management, I am biased to the lower end of the range at this time. To summarize, this has been an excellent first half for ATI.

% and a ANS margins to be in the range of 15 to 16% consistent with previous expectations.

The cash flow strength. We have delivered in the first half allows us to narrow and increase our range of full year. Adjusted free cash flow to 270 to 350 million.

This represents a million dollar increase to the midpoint of the range.

as you may recall, we generated 70 million of cash in late 2024, by selling non-core assets,

Our 2025 capex and free cash flow includes reinvesting. Those sales proceeds, as additional capex.

That brings our free cash flow to net income ratio into the range of our 90%, Target net of the redeployed capital.

We will continue to hold capex at 260 to 280 million.

I will note that with continuing customer investment and prudent management. I am biased to the lower end of the range at this time.

Don Newman: We're navigating the dynamics of our core markets and the shifting timing for growth with our customers. We remain fully on track to our expectations. This strong first half has reduced risk and solidified our path for profitable growth for 2025. It sets us up for a strong 2026 and beyond. With each new long-term agreement we sign, the path for consistent, predictable value creation becomes even more clear. With that, I will turn the call back to Kim.

To summarize. This has been an excellent first half for Ati.

We're navigating the Dynamics of our core markets and the shifting timing for growth with our customers. We remain fully on track to our expectations.

This strong first half has reduced risk and solidified, our path for profitable growth for 2025.

It sets us up for a strong 2026 and Beyond.

With each new long-term agreement, we signed the path for consistent predictable, value creation becomes even more clear.

With that, I will turn the call back to Kim.

Kim Fields: Thanks, Don. Q2 built on our strong first-quarter momentum and further demonstrated the power of our strategy and actions. We're delivering consistent results today, and we're positioned even better for tomorrow. Everything starts with executing for our customers and staying true to the commitments we make to our shareholders. Our strong first-half results reflect reliable performance, disciplined execution, and market leadership. Our customers are planning for accelerated growth, and ATI is aligned and ready to scale with them. The depth of our customer partnerships and the strength of our aerospace and defense product portfolio continue to reinforce our long-term growth strategy. We remain mindful of near-term uncertainties, but the long-term fundamentals are clear and compelling. Our advanced capabilities, secured contracts, and proven ability to perform are creating real momentum. ATI is built to lead, and we're excited about what the remainder of 2025 holds.

Thanks Don.

Q2 built on our strong first quarter momentum.

And further demonstrated the power of our strategy and action.

We're delivering consistent results today, and we're positioned even better for tomorrow.

Everything starts with executing for our customers and staying true to the commitments we make to our shareholders.

Our strong first half results, reflect reliable performance disciplined execution and Market leadership.

Our customers are planning for Accelerated growth and ATI aligned and ready to scale with them.

The depth of our customer Partnerships and the strength of our Aerospace and defense product portfolio. Continue to reinforce our long-term growth strategy.

We remain mindful of near-term uncertainties but the long-term fundamentals are clear and compelling.

Our Advanced capabilities secured contracts, and proven ability to perform are creating real momentum.

Kim Fields: And with that, let's open the line for your questions.

ATI is built to lead and we're excited about what the remainder of 2025 holds.

And with that, let's open the line for your questions.

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Seth Seifman: Hey, thanks very much, and good morning, everyone. I thought the airframe outlook for the year at Flattish was, I guess, fairly consistent with what I had been looking for. But as we got the news this week that Boeing is now up at seven a month on 787, can you share with us what you know maybe about the level of inventory that's in the channel for wide bodies? I assume that's kind of what we're waiting for here for 787 and for A350 in particular.

Hey, uh, thanks very much and, uh, good morning everyone. Um, I, I thought the, um, you know, the airframe outlook for, for the year at flattish, was I guess fairly consistent with, with what I had, um, been looking for. But, you know, as we got the news this week, the Boeing is now up at at 7 a month on, uh, on 787

Can you share with us what, you know, maybe about the level of inventory, that's, you know, in the channel for, for wide bodies. I, I assume that's kind of what, what we're waiting for here, for, for 787, and, and for 8350, um, in in particular.

Kim Fields: Good morning, Seth. So sure, let me talk about that. So yeah, the first half of the year, you see our revenues have been pretty flat. And as you said, it's that customer destocking, inventory rebalancing. As we are looking forward, we're expecting this dynamic to continue through the rest of the year as Boeing continues to ramp. They're doing really well. They're stable. I think they're accelerating. But as we look at it, it's not consistent across all of the product categories. And so there are some categories that we're expecting to see signs of demand returning in the back half here in billet and landing gear alloys where inventories are tighter, especially as you commented for the wide body ramp. And so as we look ahead, we're in a strong position. We secured that long-term agreement that we announced, and it sets us up for growth.

Kim Fields: We're anticipating the contract will expand. It's expanding our scope and volume of products that we're providing to them. So we do anticipate that we're going to see an uptick in demand just as we increase that product portfolio. And as you said, as the wide body starts to accelerate, if I look forward and think about the ramp, if they continue to operate, we've used conservative build rate numbers and assumptions, and I know Dave and then Don have shared some of those with you. If that continues to be strong and accelerate, we would look at the end of the year, fourth quarter, start seeing orders for that wide body. But as customers' inventories normalize, we're ready. We've got the new titanium capacity online. We've expanded our shares across both of the airframers. We've got broader product offerings.

Especially as you commented uh for the widebody ramp. And so, you know, as we look ahead, you know, we we're in a strong position. We've secured that long term agreement that we announced and and it sets us up for growth. Um, you know, we're anticipating, you know, the contract will expand its expanding our scope and volume of products that we're providing to them. So we do anticipate that we're going to see an uptick in demand just as we increase that product portfolio and as you said as the, the wide body starts to accelerate, you know, if I look forward and think about, you know, um, the ramp

If they continue to operate, you know, we've used conservative build rate numbers and assumptions, and, and I know Dave and and Don have shared some of those with you. Um, if that continues to be strong and accelerate, you know, we would look at the, you know, end of the year, fourth quarter start seeing orders for that wide body. Um, but you know,

Kim Fields: These new contracts bring with it some de-risking and some pricing and margin appreciation. And so we anticipate to start to see some gradual growth as we leave this year and go into next. But right now, our guide kind of anticipates that we're flattish through the rest of the year.

As customers inventories, normalize we're ready, we've got the new titanium capacity online. We've expanded our shares across both of the airframe. We've got broader product offerings, um, these new contracts bring with it, um, some de-risking and some pricing and margin appreciation. And so we anticipate to start to see some gradual growth um, as we leave this year and go into next. But right now I, our guy kind of anticipates that we're we're flattish through the rest of the year.

Seth Seifman: Excellent, excellent. That's very helpful. And then really strong performance again in jet engine, and it looks like continued strong performance in the back half. When we think about going into next year, I guess kind of assume that the demand pull from there is going to remain really strong. How can we think about where you are now in terms of capacity utilization and kind of the ability for ATI to increase volumes going into 2026?

Kim Fields: Yeah, so I'll start, and then I'll hand it over to Don. He can share some more of the financials. But from a capacity standpoint, we're in good shape to meet our 2027 targets. We've been making discrete investments across melting, forging, and finishing that we've shared with you around de-bottlenecking, improving flow, productivity. And we have seen increased outputs in forging and melt over the year. We're also continuing to make discrete investments in our nickel melting in particular, and that's going to be coming on next year. We anticipate another 8% to 10% from those investments, and that capital is included in the guide that we shared with you for our capital spend. So we do think that we're in good shape against those 2027 targets we gave you.

Excellent. Excellent. That's very helpful. Um, and then a really strong performance again in in jet engine. And it looks like um, continued strong performance in in the back half when when we think about going into next year, I guess. Kind of assumed that the the demand poll from there is going to remain really strong. Um, you know how, how can we think about where you are now in terms of capacity utilization and kind of the the ability to for for Ati to increase volumes uh going into into 2026.

Kim Fields: But to your point, growth continues to accelerate, and as we're having conversations with our customers, we're continuing to evaluate that. It continues to be stronger, and we do believe the duration will continue longer in the years to come. So probably more upside and opportunity there. Don, I don't know if you want to add anything.

Yeah, so I'll start and then I'll I'll hand it over to Don. He can share some more, um, of the financials. But from a capacity standpoint we're in good shape to meet our 2027 targets. You know, we've been making discrete Investments across melting forging and finishing that we've shared with you. You know, around deep bottlenecking improving flow productivity and we have seen increased outputs in forging and melt. Um, over the Year we're also continuing to make discrete Investments, um, in our nickel melting in particular. And um, that's going to be coming on next year. We anticipate another 8 to 10% from those Investments and, and that, um, capital is included in the guide that we shared with you, for, um, our Capital spend. So, um, we do think that we're in good shape against those 2027 targets, we gave you, uh, but to your point growth continues to accelerate. And it's, you know, as we're having conversations with our customers, we're continue to evaluate

Ate that it?

Don Newman: Yeah, I would love to. So Kim mentioned several different sources that we're leveraging in order to make sure we have the capacity in hand in order to meet our customers' needs. And one great example that I would share is an investment that we started last year in melt. It's nickel-related. It is a de-bottlenecking investment. And we've talked about de-bottlenecking a lot. I think what's important is that if you take a step back and realize, we have a substantial production footprint for nickel and titanium that exists today. What we're doing is we are adding incremental investment to that incredibly strong platform. And what that does is it gives us a few benefits. This example is a great example of it. So we began this project. Ultimately, it'll take roughly two years. And that project started, like I said, last year.

It continues to be stronger and we do believe the duration will continue longer um, in the years to come. So probably more upside and opportunity there Don. I don't know if you want to add anything. Yeah, I would love to, um, so Kim mentioned. Several different sources that were leveraging in order to make sure that we have the capacity in hand in order to meet our customers needs and 1. Great example that I would share is uh an investment that we started last year in melt its nickel related it. Uh, it is a debottlenecking investment and we've talked about debottlenecking a lot. I think what's important is that that if you take a step back and realize we have a substantial production footprint for nickel and titanium that exists today. What we're doing is we are adding incremental investment to that incredibly strong platform. And what that does is, it gives us a few benefits. This example is

Don Newman: So those assets will come into service in 2026. The investment magnitude, first of all, the investment itself was included in our capital spend program. And the magnitude, call it $50 million, five zero. We expect that that one investment is going to increase the HPMC nickel volume capacity, rather, by 8% to 10%. So think about the speed. Think about the incremental increase in capacity that a pretty modest investment gives us. Those are the things that we're doing, Seth, that will set us up to truly take advantage of this incredible ramp that we can perceive around jet engine.

Is a is a great example of it. So we um we began this. This project ultimately it'll take roughly 2 years um and that that project started like I said last year so that those assets will come into service in 2026.

The uh the investment magnitude. Uh, first of all the investment itself was included in our Capital spend program.

and uh and the magnitude call it fifty million dollars 50

We expect that that 1 investment.

is going to increase the hpmc nickel volume capacity, rather by 8, to 10%

Doing stuff that will set us up to truly take advantage of this incredible ramp that we can foresee around jet engine.

Seth Seifman: Excellent. That's super helpful. Thank you.

Excellent. That's a super helpful. Thank you.

Becky: Thank you. Our next question comes from David Strauss from Barclays. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Our next question comes from David Strauss from Barkley. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Andre Madrid: Morning.

Min.

Don Newman: Morning, David.

Andre Madrid: Morning.

Don Newman: Wanted to see if you could touch on what you're seeing out of your industrial end markets and what you're anticipating or kind of baking into your guide for the second half of the year. It sounded like it's really the ANS that you're maybe expecting a bit of a step further step back in Q3, at least from a margin perspective, and then Q4 rebound. I wasn't exactly clear on that.

Morning, 1 this morning, 1 to see if you could, um,

you know, touch on what you're seeing now of your Industrial in markets and

what you're anticipating or kind of baking into your guide for the second half of the year. It sounded like is really the ANS

That you're maybe expecting a bit of a step further, step back in Q3, at least from a margin perspective and then Q4 rebounds, I wasn't exactly clear on that.

Don Newman: Yeah, I'm happy to share some more color. First, in the quarter, our industrials were flattish overall, but there were certainly some variances within that overall. And, you know, for example, we've seen some positive growth in conventional oil and gas. That's tied to things like project-related sales that we benefited from in the first two quarters. There's some other deep-sea projects that we think will be potential captures later in the year. So we've seen some reasonably good growth in conventional oil and gas. But you look in other areas, and we've seen a meaningful drop. And those would be in areas like construction and mining or in food equipment and appliances. Food equipment and appliances, for example, it's a small dollar amount, but from a percentage standpoint, we saw that drop sequentially by double digits. So we see a mix.

Okay, uh, yeah. I'm happy to, to share some more color first, uh, in the quarter, our Industrials were flattish overall, but there were certainly some variances within that overall. And, uh, you know, for example, we've seen some positive growth in conventional oil and gas. Uh, that's tied to, uh, things like, um, you know, project related, uh, project related sales, that that we benefited from in the first 2 quarters. There's uh, some other, uh, deep sea projects that we think will be potential.

Captures later in the year. So, we've seen some some, uh, reasonably good growth in conventional oil and gas. But you look at other areas and we've seen, uh, meaningful drop. And those would be in areas like construction and Mining or in, uh, food equipment and appliances, uh, you know, food equipment and appliances, for example how it's a small dollar amount, but from a percentage standpoint, you know, we, we saw that uh, saw that drop sequentially by, uh, by double digits. So,

Don Newman: Now, I think when you take a step back and say, "Okay, well, why is that? Why are we experiencing a flatness around industrials?" Well, there's a few drivers to that. One is we believe that the tariff impact on order activities is one of the drivers. And as we sell through, for example, distribution, those customers are looking at the option to wait, and they will, as they see all this dynamic around tariffs unfold. We're also seeing where non-US customers are preferring to work with non-US suppliers so that they don't have to deal with the cost of tariffs with the US supplier side of things. And so we've seen where order activity has been down related to those kinds of situations. So I think as the tariff situation unfolds, then we'll see stability.

The um you know we we see a a mix. Now I think when you take a step back and say okay well why is that, why are we experiencing uh a flatness around Industrials? Well there's a few drivers to that 1 is we believe that the Tariff impact on order activities is uh is 1 of the drivers and you know as as we sell through, for example distribution those um customers are looking at the option to wait and they will as they see all this Dynamic around tariffs unfold. We're also seeing where uh non-us customers are preferring to work with non-us suppliers so that they don't have to deal with the cost of, uh, of tariffs with the US, um, supplier side of things. And so we've seen where order activity has been down uh, related to, to those

Kinds of situations.

Don Newman: We're also seeing some good news in that area in that if you're a US producer and you have a US customer, that US customer is certainly more interested in using a US-based supplier, again, to eliminate the tariff impacts. So that's one impact. The other impact I would mention is the macros. The macros around industrial that we're seeing are still rather soft. And so I think as the economy picks up and that improves, I think we'll see recovery here. The last thing I would say is remember that when it comes to these industrial end markets, they can slow quickly, but then they can accelerate quickly. And so we would expect that when these uncertainties fall away, we'll see that recovery rather quickly. Was there anything that you wanted to add, Kim?

So, I think as as a chair of situation unfolds then, then we'll see stability. We're also seeing some good news in that area and that, if you're a US producer, and you have a, a Us customer that Us customer is, is, um, certainly more interested in using a us-based supplier again, to to, uh, to eliminate the, the Tariff impacts. So, that's 1 impact you. The other impact, I would matter that it would mention is, you know, the, the macros, the macros are on Industrial that, uh, that we're seeing are still rather soft. And uh, so I think as as the economy picks up and and then that improves and I think we'll see recovery here. Last thing I would say is remember that when it comes to the uh these industrial and markets, they can slow quickly but then they can accelerate quickly.

Kim Fields: No, I think you covered it. I was just, you know, as you think about our overall portfolio, it's about 20% of our overall revenue. So it's a much, much smaller portion than it was five or six years ago before we made some of those changes and moved really focused on A&D. So as Don said, we've got this rotation of demand that's happening. And we do, you know, with some of the stability coming from the trade policy, we are seeing stability and order rates start to pick up, but it's probably early days before we say the back half of the year is going to continue to be stable and then rise.

And so we would expect, you know, that when these uncertainties fall away, we'll see that recovery rather quickly. Was there anything that you wanted to add, Kim?

No, I think you covered it. I was just.

um, you know, if you as you think about our overall portfolio, it's about 20%.

Seth Seifman: Very good. Thank you.

Of our overall Revenue. So it's a much much smaller portion than it was, you know, 5 or 6 years ago before we made some of those changes and and moved really focused on A and D. So as Don said, we've got this rotation of demand, um, that's happening. And we do, you know, with some of the stability coming from the trade policy, we are seeing stability and Order rates um start to pick up, but it's probably early days. Before we say the back half of the year is going to going to continue to be stable and then rise.

Don Newman: Okay. That's great. I wanted to ask about HPMC margins. So, you know, margins, you know, the incrementals, Don, that we've seen the first half of the year have been very strong, 55% to 60%, I think. I assume benefiting from, you know, jet engine versus airframe mix. You know, you talked about the second half. It sounds like a bit of margin improvement, further margin improvement at HPMC. But how do you think about kind of normalized or incremental margins at HPMC from here as we think out to, you know, your targets for 2027? Thanks.

Very good. Thank you. Okay? That that's great. Um,

Have been very strong 55 to 60%, I think, um, I assume benefiting from, you know, jet engine versus airframe mix. Uh, you know, you talked about the second and a half. Um,

Don Newman: Okay. Sure. Happy to. So before I jump to how to think about normalized, let me just give a little bit more color in terms of the HPMC incrementals this quarter. So they were very favorable, north of 60%. One help, one tailwind in the high performance this quarter is last year we had about $30 million of revenue from a business that later in 2024 was disposed of. And so that created a bit of a lift in the calculated incremental margin. You strip that effect out, it's still a really good incremental. It's north of 40%. And so how should you think about HPMC incrementals going forward? You know, what I've said in the past is expect that we would see HPMC incrementals north of 35% moving into the 40% neighborhood. Well, it feels like we're there.

it sounds like a bit of margin Improvement for the margin Improvement. Hpmc. But how how how do you think about kind of normalized or incremental margins at at hpmc, from, from here, as we think out to, you know, your targets for 2027. Thanks.

Okay sure, happy to. So before I jump to what, how to think about normalizing, let me just give a little bit more color in terms of the hpmc incremental this quarter. So they were um, very favorable north of 60% 1 help, uh, 1 Tailwind in the, the, the high performance quarter is last year, we had about 30 million dollars of revenue from a business that later in 2024 was was disposed of. And so that created a bit of a lift in the calculated uh incremental margin, you strip that affect out. It's still a really good incremental. It's north of 40% and uh so how should you think about hpmc incremental going forward?

you know, we

Don Newman: And so I think expecting something in the 40% range would be a rational thing to do for HPMC. And then as you're also modeling your margins to expect to see HPMC margins, EBITDA margins to live north of that 24% mark.

What I said in the past is expect that we would see HPMC incremental north of 35%, moving in, you know, to the 40% neighborhood. Well, it feels like we're there, and so I think expecting something in the 40% range would be a rational thing to do for HPMC. And then as you're also modeling your margins, expect to see HPMC margins, even down margins, live north of that 24% mark.

Seth Seifman: Thank you.

Thank you.

Don Newman: You bet.

Becky: Thank you. Our next question comes from Richard Safran from Seaport Research Partners. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

You bet.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Richard. Saffron from Seaport research Partners. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Richard Safran: Thanks. Kim, Don, David, good morning. You know, Kim, I think you made some aftermarket comments in your opening remarks. I wanted to know if you could give us maybe a bit more specific comments about aftermarket trends. You'd think that might be moderating a bit, you know, given the production ramp we're seeing at Boeing and Airbus, but I thought you might talk a little bit more about what you're seeing there. Thanks.

thanks uh Kim Don David, good morning, you know, um,

Kim, um, I I I think you made some aftermarket comments in your, in your opening remarks. Um, I want you to know. If you could give us maybe a bit, some more specific comments about aftermarket Trends. Um, you know, you'd think that might be moderating a bit, you know, given the production ramp. But we're seeing it Boeing and Airbus, but, um, I I thought you might, um, talk a little bit more about what, uh, what you're seeing there. Thanks.

Kim Fields: Sure. Thanks, Rich. Yeah, I do think, you know, what we're seeing on the OE side is going to drive growth. But I'll share, you know, I'll say MRO continues to be really strong, and we anticipate that's going to continue to be strong, you know, probably through the rest of this decade. I know, you know, we all heard GE's call earlier this week. You know, LEAP is going to increase what their install base by triple and shop visits doubling between '24 and '28.

Sure. Thanks Rich. Uh,

Kim Fields: So, you know, what I'm hearing from all of the engine OEMs is that we're going to continue to see sustained high MRO and spares demand, something in the range of the 40% to 50% that we've been seeing, which, to your point, is going to really drive growth overall because I think the OE with the ramping that's happening is going to also start to bring more demand as well. You know, I think the, you know, as we're looking at it, the thing that's important for us is, you know, we've got those exclusive alloy positions that I talked about last time on many of these programs that, you know, and we've got more than twice the content on these next-generation engines.

Yeah, I do think. You know what we're seeing on the OE side is going to drive, um, growth. Um, but I I'll share, you know, I'll say mro continue to be really strong. Um, and we anticipate that's going to continue to be strong, you know, probably through the rest of this decade. I know, you know, we all heard jizz call earlier this week, you know, leap is going to increase what their install base by triple and Shop visits doubling between 24 and 28. Um, so you know what I'm hearing from? All of the engine oems is that? We're going to continue to see sustained, high mro and Spares demand, um, something in the range of the 40 to 50% that we've been seeing, uh, which to your point is going to really Drive growth overall, because I think the OE, um, with the ramping that's happening is going to also um, start to to bring more demand as well.

Kim Fields: So, you know, in our conversations, we're anticipating this to continue the rest of this year and then through the rest of this decade, you know, be it both shop visits, upgrade packages, you know, some of the lifing issues that are getting addressed kind of across all three of them. So, you know, we're anticipating that that's going to continue to be a big value driver for us for the rest of the decade.

You know, I think the, you know, as we're looking at it, the, the thing that's important for us is, you know, we've got these. Those exclusive alloy positions that I talked about last time, many of these programs that, you know, and we've got more than twice the content on these next Generation engines. So you know, in our conversations, we're anticipating this to continue um, the rest of this year and then, through the rest of this decade, you know, be it both shop visits upgrade packages. You know, if some of the um lifing issues

That are getting addressed kind of across all, 3 of them. So

You know, we're anticipating that that's going to continue to be a big Drive value driver for us for the rest of the decade.

Richard Safran: Okay. Thanks for that. Next up, you may have talked to this, but I wanted to press you a bit more about the terms in those contract extensions that you just mentioned. Could you talk a bit more? I think you said they include share gains. Do they include beneficial changes to mixed pricing or terms? And when you were thinking about your long-term targets, was all this contemplated and factored in?

Okay, thanks for that. Um, next up. Um, you may have talked to this, but, um, I wanted to press you a bit more about the terms in those, um, contract extensions that you just mentioned, um, could you talk a bit more? Um, I think you said they include sheer gains that they include beneficial changes to mixing or terms. And when, when you were thinking about your long-term targets with, with all this contemplated and factored in,

Kim Fields: So the short answer is yes to all of those items. I won't share all the specifics, but you know, we did talk about last time, you know, just touching Airbus that more than doubles our revenue, and that'll start in 2026, significant share gains. It does cover a broader range of titanium products as well. For Boeing, it's an expansion of, you know, both volume and range of products. Probably most importantly, the titanium alloy sheet that's coming out of our new facility in Pageland, South Carolina. And that's a really major milestone for us. It's been a gap in our product portfolio. And so, you know, both contracts include that, as well as, you know, this contract and agreement with Boeing includes an expansion of the alloys that we're providing, many that go into landing gear and other applications for the wide body.

Kim Fields: So I think the other thing is how the contract's structured, you asked. You know, we've got volume-based minimums. So there's a solid, you know, baseline there. And then upside is demand increases, both volume and margin benefits come into play. Our pricing terms, you know, over we've talked about our contracts. We've been working to de-risk those. So they both allow for inflation and cost pass-through, so we're not exposed to future risks. So overall, you know, both of these contracts that put us in a fairly even position, frankly, across both airframe OEMs sets up meaningful growth in revenue and margin expansion as we move through the rest of the decade. Don, I don't know if you want to talk about how this compares to the 2027 guide.

More than doubles, um, our revenue and that'll start in 2026 significant, share gains it, does hover a broader range of titanium products as well? Um, for Boeing, it's an expansion of, you know, both volume and range of products, probably, most importantly, the titanium alloy sheet, that's coming out of our new facility in Pageland South Carolina. And that's a really major milestone for us. Um, it's been a gap in our product portfolio and so, you know, both contracts include that as well as you know, this contract and agreement with Boeing includes, um, an expansion of the Alloys that we're providing, uh, many that go into, um, landing gear, and other applications for the wide body. So, I think the other thing is, how the contract structured you asked, you know, we've got volume based minimums. So there's a solid, um,

So there's a solid, you know, Baseline there, and then upside is demanding increases, both, volume and margin benefits come into play our pricing terms. You know over we've talked about our contracts, we've been working to de-risk those, so um they both allow for inflation we've and cost pass through so we're not ex as exposed to Future risks. Um, so overall, you know, both of these um, contracts that put us in a fairly even position frankly across both. Um,

Don Newman: Yeah, I would be happy to do that. So when you think about the Airbus contract, the Airbus contract, of course, when we put our '27s out, the Airbus relationship was much smaller for us, Rich. And so a lot of this new contract tailwind is not baked into our expectations for 2027. The way to think about that is when we were looking at our targets, I'm estimating that for Airbus, you know, we probably were assuming something in the $75 million annual sales kind of range. With this new contract, we're going to see that double and more. And so what I would do is I would assume that for 2027, it's incremental 75 to 100 million, let's say, of revenue. But importantly, it's not just about those targets.

Airframe OEM sets up meaningful growth in revenue and margin expansion as we move through the rest of the decade. Don, I don't know if you want to talk about how this compares to the 2027 guide. Yeah, we'd be happy to do that. So when you think about the Airbus contract, the Airbus contract, of course, when we put our 27s out,

Don Newman: It's also the de-risked profile that Kim talked about, the breadth of offerings, which has a secondary beneficial effect to those 2027 targets because we would expect a richer mix of products than we would have assumed in the base amount of the Airbus relationship in those targets. Now, in terms of Boeing, in terms of Boeing, what I would say is I would in our 2027s, we would have assumed similar share. So from that standpoint, I think we're in alignment. But what's improved is we have gotten some price. We have gotten, again, richer mix. We've broadened our product offerings. So I would expect an enhanced top line, not quite the step change that we would see with Airbus, but enhanced top line and richer drop-through. Does that help?

The Airbus relationship was much smaller for us, rich. And so, a lot of this, this new contract, uh, Tailwind is not baked into our expectations for 2027 the way to think about that is when we, when we were looking at our targets, I'm I'm estimating that for Airbus. Um, you know, we probably were assuming something in the, you know, 75 million annual sales, kind of range with this new contract. We're going to see that double and more. And so, you know what I would do is I would assume that for 2027, it's you know, incremental 75 to 100 million. Let's say of Revenue but importantly, it's not just about the those targets. It's uh it's also the, the de-risked profile that Kim talked about the breadth of offerings which has a a secondary beneficial effect to those 2027 targets because we would expect a rich

Mix of products. Um, then uh, then we would have assumed in the base, uh, amount of, uh, of the Airbus relationship in those targets. Now, in terms of Bowing, in terms of Boeing, what I would say is, I would EX in our 2027, we would have assumed similar share

Uh so from a from that standpoint, I I think we're in alignment but what's improved is? We have gotten some price.

uh, we have gotten again richer mix, we've broadened our product offerings so I would expect an enhanced

Topline not quite the step change that we would see with Airbus, but enhanced topline and richer drops through.

Does that help?

Richard Safran: It surely does. Thanks. Thanks very much to both of you.

It surely does. Thanks very much to both of you.

Don Newman: You bet.

You bet.

Becky: Thank you. Our next question comes from McGuesser McCarner from TD Cowan. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Thank you.

On next question.

Connor from TD Cowen, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Don Newman: Yeah, thanks. Good morning, guys.

Yeah, thanks. Good morning, guys.

Andre Madrid: Good morning.

Don Newman: Was wondering if you could elaborate on the nickel melt capacity increase. Are these actual new furnaces? You mentioned it's de-bottlenecking. If you could just give us a little more color on that. And then secondly, I wanted to ask about the titanium furnaces that you guys have added already and that are set to come online next year. And if you can update us on your estimated revenue contribution from the ones coming online next year. Thank you.

Good morning was wondering, was wondering if you could elaborate on the nickel melt uh capacity. Increase are these actual new furnaces you mentioned? It's debottlenecking they could just give us a little more color on that and

Uh, and then, secondly, I wanted to ask about the titanium furnaces that you guys have added already and that are set to come online next year.

And if you can update us on your, your estimated Revenue contribution from the the ones coming online next year, thank you.

Kim Fields: Sure, Adam. So yeah, so the nickel investments we're making, there are going to be new melting equipment that's going to be put in. And as Don said, it's discrete investments. So they're not monolithic, big investments that we're putting that'll allow us to capture another 8% to 10%. It'll go into, you know, our existing footprint where we've got trained operators and qualified operations. So those will be in next year. And so they'll be operating, starting to ramp up as, you know, the demand that we've been talking about here with jet engine and, frankly, energy continues to ramp. It'll give us, you know, that 8% to 10% capacity increase that we've been talking about that we see coming. The investments before that, you know, there were some specific pieces of equipment that we put in, primarily downstream and finishing. We've talked a lot about ultrasonic inspection.

Sure Adam. Um, so

yeah, so the, the nickel Investments we're making, there are, um,

Kim Fields: We've talked about heat treat. We had a brand new facility come up as we came out of COVID. So those really helped us maximize the use of those upstream assets. And so this investment makes sense now at this point because now we're able to, you know, increase the melt and flow it through the operation. So that's that one. EB2, you know, out in Richland on titanium, as you mentioned, that's actually up and running now. You know, so perfectly timed with the ramp that we anticipate seeing. We're in qualification. We expect to be, you know, we're running qualification heats right now for our customers. We expect to be qualified on standard quality, which would go into, you know, airframe and armor type applications by the end of this year, probably as we go into the second half, third quarter.

Trained, um, operators and qualified operations. So, um, those will be in next year. And so they'll be um, operating starting to ramp up. As, you know, the demand that we've been talking about here with jet engine and frankly um energy continues to ramp, it'll give us um you know that 8 to 10% capacity, increase that we've been that. We've been talking about that we see coming, uh, the investments before that. You know, there were some specific pieces of equipment that we put in primarily Downstream and finishing. Um, we talked a lot about son, ultrasonic inspection, we've talked about heat treat. We had a brand new facility come up as we came out of Co so those really helped us maximize the use of those Upstream um assets. And so this investment makes sense. Now at this point, um, because now we're able to um, you know, increase the amount and flow it through the the operation. So, so that's that 1 EB 2, um, you know, out in Richland on titanium, as you mentioned. That's, um, I actually offer

Kim Fields: And then we, this asset, if you remember, has the flexibility and capability to do premium quality, so rotating grade for engine, and we'll be starting that qualification as we get to the middle and back half of the year. So as we go into next year, it gives us additional capacity to support the engine demand and ramp that we've been talking about.

And running now, you know, so perfectly timed with the ramp that we anticipate seeing we're in qualification. We expect to be um you know we're running qualification Heats right now for our customers. We expect to be, we expect to be qualified on standard quality, which would go into, you know, airframe. Um, and armor type applications by the end of this year. Probably, as we go into the second half, third quarter, and then we this asset, if you remember, has the flexibility and capability to do.

Premium quality. So rotating grade for engine and will be starting that qualification as we get to the middle and back half of the year. So, as we go into next year, it gives us additional capacity to support the engine demand and ramp, um, that we've been talking about,

Don Newman: And the dollar value of that? Is it still like $122?

And the dollar value of that.

Kim Fields: Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

Don Newman: So let me give some more color on that, if you don't mind. So just to go back and refresh folks' memories a little bit. So we talked about the fact that we were going to increase our titanium melt capacity by 80%. We started having those conversations in '23. There were two pieces to it. The first piece was a restart of an existing plant. That got us to 45%. And you're right. You remember that that plant at run rate would be expected to generate $150 to $170 million of incremental revenue. Then we have the Brownfield that Kim was talking about. That plant is up running. It was completed on time, on schedule. The qualification is right in line with what we expected. The metrics that we've shared on that is that's increasing our melt capacity by 35%.

Is it still like this is done once you? But yeah, yeah, that's that's right, yeah. So let me uh, let me get some more color on that if you don't mind. So just to to go back and refresh folks, memories a little bit. So we we talked about the fact that we were going to increase our titanium metal capacity by 80%. We started having those conversations in 23. There were 2 pieces to it. The first piece was a restart of an existing plant that got us the 45% and you're right. You you remember that that plant at run rate would be expected to generate 150 to 170 million dollars of uh, incremental Revenue?

Then we have the Brownfield that Kim was talking about that plant is up running. It was completed on time on schedules the the qualification is right in line with what we expected.

Don Newman: So the easy math is if you just take the same, you know, if 45% gets you $150 to $170, do the math, 35% would get you proportionately, you know, $125, $135 million, something in that range. The drop-through to assume, I've been consistently saying, "Hey, use 35% in your model." Okay? Now, the reality is we're working to do better than all of that and deliver more value to the shareholders. And so, you know, that's our objective. But for modeling, I encourage you to use the numbers that I just talked about. There's one editorial comment that I would make, though. You know, last call, I had shared that we have doubled the size of our titanium business between '22 and '24. It went from roughly $400 million to roughly $800 million.

The metrics that we've shared on that is that's increasing our milk capacity by 35%. So the easy math is if you just take the same, you know, 45% get you 150 to 170, do the math, 35% would get you proportionately, you know, 125 to 135 million, something in that range. The drop through to assume.

Don Newman: That, of course, is before the additional Airbus business, before the Boeing contract that we just announced. And so as you think about the investment that we made around that 80% increase, in total was probably $100, $125 million, including that Brownfield. And those investments enabled us, number one, to get the contracts that we've talked about over the last two quarters. And number two, sets us up perfectly for the ramp of titanium demand that's going to be heading our way. So this was the strategy, the play that we were setting up when we made those investment decisions, and we see them unfolding now. So thank you.

I've been, uh, consistently saying, hey, use 35% in your modeling, okay? Now the reality is, we're looking to do better than all of that and deliver more value to the shareholders. And so, you know, that that's our objective. But for modeling I encourage you to to use the numbers that I just talked about. There's 1 edit, comment that I would make though you know last call I had shared that we have doubled the size of our titanium business between 22 and 24. It went from roughly 400 million to roughly 800 million.

That of course, is before the additional Airbus business before the, uh, the the Boeing contract that we just announced and so, as you think about the investment that we made around that 80% increase in total was probably 100 125 million dollars including that Brownfield. And uh, and those Investments enabled Us. Number 1 to get the contracts that we've talked about over the last 2 quarters.

The number 2 sets us up perfectly for the ramp of titanium demand that's going to be heading our way. So, uh, this was the strategy, the play that we were setting up when we made those investment decisions, and, uh, we see them unfolding now.

Seth Seifman: Thank you. Thank you.

So thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Becky: Thank you. Our next question, it comes from Scott Deutschla from Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Seth Seifman: Hey, good morning. Don, I think you said jet engine revenue would grow more than 20% for the year. Should we be thinking 20% to 25% as being the new range, or could it be more in the high 20s given the strong first half here?

Thank you on. Next question, that comes from Scott, Deutsche from Deutsche Bank, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Don Newman: Yeah, I think you called it right. I would assume between 20% and 25%.

Should we be thinking 20 to 25% as being the new range? Or could it be more in the high 20s? Given the strong first half here?

Seth Seifman: Okay. And then, Kim, I believe you're making one of the alloys for the upgraded version of the Tran engine from Rolls-Royce. I think it's RR1073. Is that alloy already in production? And then if it is, is that handover additive to your growth, or does it mainly just replace revenue you're generating on the prior generation Rolls-Royce alloy?

Yeah, I would I think you called it, right? I would assume between 20 and 25%.

Okay, and then Kim, I believe you're making 1 of the Alloys for the upgraded version of the trend engine from Rolls-Royce. I think it's RR 1073, is that alloy already in production and then, then, if it is, is that Handover additive to your growth or does it mainly just replace Revenue. You're generating on the prior generation Rolls-Royce alloy,

Kim Fields: So yes, we are partnering with Rolls-Royce to make their new alloy. They are introducing it. I think in some cases, they are looking at that as an enhancement to their engine. So there is some tradeover. But what they've shared with us is that early test results have been very promising, and they're looking at accelerating that and have expanded the scope much wider of what they're thinking about using that alloy for. So we are ramping with them today. We're continuing, you know, they're continuing to go through regulatory review. And so that will be the pacing item as they get each of these parts qualified and changed. So we do see growth in that space with them for those alloys.

so yes, we we

we are we are partnering with Rolls-Royce to make their new alloy. Um, they are introducing it, I think in some cases they are looking at that as, um, an enhancement to their engine. So there is some, um, trade over but

What they've shared with us is that early test results have been very promising and they're looking at accelerating that and and have expanded the scope much wider of what they're thinking about using that alloy for. So so we are ramping with them today. Um, we're continuing, you know, they're continuing to go through regulatory review and so that will be the the pacing item as they get each of these parts qualified and and changed. So we do see

Seth Seifman: Okay. And if I could just sneak one more in, Don, it looks like there were some COVID-era deferred employee retention credits that got recognized this quarter. I had thought that was behind you. Can you just clarify how much of that is still out there that might get recognized in the future and what, if any, is in the second half guide for that?

Growth in that space with them um for those alloys.

Okay, and if I could just sneak 1 more in Don, it looks like there was some Co era deferred employee retention credits that got recognized this quarter.

Don Newman: Sure. Nothing in the second half is a short answer. There's $5 million that's still on the books. And with the recent big, beautiful bill that was passed, the statute of limitations on those credits don't expire until 2028. So that's when I would expect that that would get released.

I I had thought that was behind, you, can you just clarify how much of that is still out there? That might be recognized in the future and what if any is in second half guide for that?

Seth Seifman: Thank you.

Sure. Um, nothing in the second half is a short answer, there's 5 million dollars that's still on the books. And with the recent, uh, big beautiful bill, that was passed the statute of limitations on those credits, don't expire till 2028. So that's when I would expect that, that would get released

Thank you.

Becky: Thank you. Our next question, it comes from Miles Walter from Wolf Research. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Andre Madrid: Thanks. Good morning. I was wondering if I could focus on the the isothermal forging business and the share gains you've had there with GTF. And if you can give us a color on where you are relative to the targeted share levels and at what point we should expect you to start growing more with overall volume versus share gains.

Thank you on. Next question. Comes from Mi Walter from Wolfe research. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Thanks, good morning.

I was wondering if I could focus on the the isothermal forging business. In the share games, you've had there with with gtf, and if you can give us a caller on where you are relative to the targeted share levels and at what point we should expect you to start growing more with overall volume versus share gains.

Kim Fields: So good morning, Miles. So yeah, I mean, that actually, that story is a real bright spot for our forging team, forging projects, forged products team. So as you, as I've shared in past calls, you know, we anticipated doubling or more than doubling our sharing output this year with Pratt. I'd say, you know, in the first half of the year, we've shipped almost as much as what we shipped all of last year in forgings to them. And I think they've shared some statistics on their forged parts increases and improvements. So I won't talk to that for them. But you know, we anticipate that continuing to grow, we're probably, we're looking at potentially another 50% over the next year or two.

Kim Fields: But more broadly, as we think about our forged products business, that business, especially given the MRO demand and the upgrade packages and other issues that the engine OEMs are addressing, we're seeing very, very strong demand across the board where our lead times are out into 2027. We're continuing to work on de-bottlenecking. We've talked a little bit about some of the downstream ones. Sonic is a huge one for the industry, not just for us. And we've put capacity in to relieve that, as well as, you know, be able to address some of the heightened quality requirements by the FAA for these powdered alloy parts. So that is going really well. That partnership's going well.

So, good morning miles. Um, so yeah. I mean, that, actually, that story is a real bright spot for our foraging. Um, Team foraging project, uh, Forge products team. Um, so as you as I've shared in past calls, you know, we anticipated doubling or more than doubling our, um, share and output this year with Pratt. I'd say, you know, in the first half of the year we've shipped almost as much as what we shipped all of last year um, in forging to that. And I think they've shared some statistics on their forged um, Parts increases and improvements. Um, so I won't, I won't talk to that for them, but, you know, we anticipate that continuing to grow will probably we're looking at potentially another 50% over the next year or 2, but more broadly, as we think about our Forge products business, uh, that business, especially given the mro demand and the upgrade packages and other um issues that the the engine

Oil Williams are addressing where um, seeing very, very strong demand across the board where our lead times are out in the 2027. Um, we're continuing to work on debottlenecking. We've talked to talked a little bit about some of the downstream ones. Sonic is is a huge 1 for the industry, not just for us. And we've put capacity in to um to relieve that as well as you know, be able to address some of the heightened, um, Quality requirements by the FAA for

Kim Fields: I think, you know, from our standpoint, we're continuing to talk to them about new parts and new share because clearly they want to work through this backlog and get back on track. And so we're doing everything we can jointly. But that's a really good news story and a great partnership example of how we've pulled together and looked at the overall system.

For these powdered, um, alloy parts. So, so that is going really well that partnership's going well. Um, I think, you know, from our standpoint, we're continuing to talk to them about new parts, and new share, because clearly they want to work through uh, this backlog and and get back on track. And and so we're doing everything we can jointly. Um, but that that's a really good news story and a great partnership example of how we've pulled together and looked at the overall system.

Seth Seifman: Got it. And maybe, Don, on the titanium side, what is the target level for this year? You talked about the doubling to 800. I think it's flash year to date. Is there a second half ramp that you're anticipating in titanium?

Got it and and maybe don on the titanium side. What is the the target level for for this year? Um you talked about the doubling to 800. Um I think it's flash year to date. Is there a second half ramp that you're participating in titanium?

Don Newman: I wish I could say yes, but of course, the titanium area is where that's the material that goes into the airframe. And so I would assume flattish overall. We'll have some pockets of growth, but I would expect that to be pretty modest growth, you know, from an HPMC standpoint.

Seth Seifman: All right.

Of course, type the titanium area is where um we that's the material that goes into the airframe and so I would assume flattish overall, we'll have some pockets of growth but it uh, I would expect that to be pretty modest growth, you know, from an hpmc standpoint.

Don Newman: And when I say modest, I mean really modest.

Seth Seifman: Okay. Got it. Thank you.

All right, and when I say modest I mean really modest right? Yeah. Okay, got it.

Thank you.

Becky: Thank you. Our next question comes from Phil Gibbs from KeyBank Capital Markets. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Phil Gibbs from keybanc Capital markets, your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Andre Madrid: Hey, good morning.

Kim Fields: Morning.

Hey, good morning.

Seth Seifman: Morning, Phil.

Good morning morning. Let's go.

Andre Madrid: As it relates to the tariffs, you called out the somewhat indirect impact from sort of subdued non-aerospace and defense sales and some relative competitiveness there. But any direct tariff impacts as it relates to the cost structure this year and any potential for any of those potential costs to change with all the recent backing and forthing on the trade deals?

oh, as it relates to the, to the tariffs, you you called out the the somewhat indirect, uh, impact from

Sort of subdued non-aerospace and defense sales and some competitive, relative competitiveness there. But any direct tariffs impacts as it relates to the cost structure this year and.

And any potential for, for any of those, um, potential costs to change with.

All the recent, uh, backing and forth thing on the trade deals.

Don Newman: Yeah, it's a dynamic situation, right? So based on what we know today, we feel like we're in a really good position because, you know, our contracts are structured such that we have a number of means to recover under our LTAs, whether it's in surcharges or, you know, on transactional deals. We can typically adjust price, things of that sort. So we feel like we're pretty insulated or pretty well positioned to be able to recover costs that are incurred. Of course, we start with how do we minimize these costs? And we've got a pretty diverse supply chain that enables us to reduce some of that exposure. But for what's left, you know, we go after full recovery. And to be frank, we've had good success in executing under that model.

Yeah, it's it's a dynamic, uh, situation, right? So based on what we know today, we feel like we're in a really good position because, you know, our contracts are structured such that we have a number of, of means to recover, and our ltas, whether it's in search charm, you know, on transactional, uh, deals. We can we can typically adjust price, uh, things of that sort. So we feel like we're pretty insulated or pretty. Well, positioned to be able to recover costs that are incurred. Of course, we start with, how do we minimize these costs? And we've got a pretty diverse supply chain that enables us to reduce some of that exposure. But uh, for what's left

Don Newman: And, you know, nobody likes to pay more, and our customers included, but we have what we believe are good contractual rights or other mechanisms. And what was the second part of your question?

You know, we we go after full recovery and to be frank, we've had good success in executing under that model.

And, uh, you know, nobody likes to pay more and our customers included. But it's, uh, we have, well, we believe our good contractual rights or other mechanisms.

and um,

and what was the second part of your question?

Andre Madrid: I basically was just asking if, given the recent trade deals, if anything changes in your mind relative to how you thought about it a few months ago.

Don Newman: Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. Thank you for reminding me. So, I mean, it's dynamic, and these situations change by the day. And so what we do is what every other good business person does. You react to what you know, and you try to prepare for the possibilities. And I think we've been successful in doing that. So same, it'll be the same answer for any new tariffs. And we'll try to reduce with our supply chain leverage, and then we will seek to recover as appropriate. You know, to be really clear, we are very, very defensive when it comes to our margins. We realize that margins are the key driver in the valuation of our stock. And, you know, it's our ambition to get our margins where we believe they should be, which is north of 20%, and see them there consistently.

I basically was just asking if given the recent trade deals, if if anything changes, um, in your mind relative to how you thought about it, a few months ago,

Don Newman: You can't give up points if you're going to do that.

Yeah, it's fair. It's fair. Thank you for reminding me. Um so I mean it's Dynamic and this these uh, situations change by the day. And uh so what we do is what every every other good business person does you react to to um, what you know, and you try to prepare for the possibilities. And I think we've been successful in doing that. So same it'll be the same answer for any new tariffs. Uh, and um, you know we'll be we'll try to reduce with our our supply chain leverage and uh and then we will um, seek to recover as appropriate, you know, to be really clear. We are very very defensive when it comes to our margins. We realize that margins are the key driver in in evaluation of our stock and you know it's our ambition to get our margins where we believe they should be which is north of 20% and see them there consistently you can't give up points if you're going to do that.

Andre Madrid: Thanks, Don. And I just have a follow-up as it relates to the exotics business. It's not usually talked about on these calls all that often, but given a lot of the discussion around nuclear and critical resources as of late, just curious in terms of what you're hearing or seeing from your customers in terms of future readiness for some of the interesting and unique products that you provide there. Thank you.

Thanks, Don. And I just have a follow-up as it relates to the Exotics business. It's not usually talked about on these calls all that often, but given a lot of the discussion around,

nuclear and critical resources as of late, just curious in terms of

What your?

What you're hearing and seeing from your customers in terms of future readiness for some interesting and unique products that you provide. Thank you.

Kim Fields: Yeah, thanks for that question. You're right. We don't talk about that business often, but yeah, with the executive order and this resurgence in nuclear and land-based gas turbines, we are seeing momentum in that business and in those segments. Our nuclear demand was up 24% year over year. We anticipate that's going to continue to go up. We make some very unique alloys, and we're one of the few globally that kind of less than three that can do this at scale. And, you know, also on the gas turbine side, I'd say, you know, we're also seeing demand there, obviously, you know, given the surge for the need for electricity. And we've got strong relationships in both areas, both with the nuclear OEMs and the gas turbine. And, you know, our ability to deliver those advanced alloys, especially steels, positions us well.

Yeah, thanks for that question. You're right. We don't talk

Kim Fields: And those sectors are going to continue to scale. We've seen, like I said, good growth and demand, and we're expecting to see that steady growth in the back half of this year and going forward. The one thing I will mention is, you know, some of those other markets that we've talked about that are outside A&D either have, you know, been impacted by some of the trade or we've seen some pivoting of demand. We've been able to repurpose that capacity into these high margin opportunity markets, and energy is one of those. And I will say, you know, on the nuclear side, I think we've talked about maybe last year, we made some very discrete investments to increase the output of that process around 15% to 20%. And, you know, we are, that's in production. They've been getting that.

You know, given the surge for the need for electricity, um, and we've got strong relationships in both areas, both with the nuclear oems, and the gas turbine, and, you know, our ability to deliver those Advanced Alloys, specially steals position as well and those sectors are going to continue to scale. Um, we've seen like I said good growth and demand and we're expecting to see that steady growth in the the back half this year and going forward. Um the 1 thing I will mention is you know, is some of those other markets that we've talked about that are outside A and D. Um, either have

Kim Fields: We've got very, like I said, strong demand globally for those products from that business. So yeah, they're doing well, and we anticipate that momentum to continue.

You know, been impacted by some of the trade or we've seen some pivoting of demand. We've been able to repurpose that capacity into these high margin. Um opportunity markets and energy is 1 of those. Um, and I will say, you know, on the nuclear side, I think we've talked about maybe last year, we made some very discreet Investments to increase the output of that, um, process around 15 to 20%. And, you know, we are that's in production and they've been getting that. Um, we've got very, like I said, strong demand globally for, for those products from, from that business. So, yeah, they're doing they're doing well, and we anticipate that momentum to continue

Seth Seifman: Thank you, Kim and Don. Good luck.

Kim Fields: Thank you.

Thank you, Kim, and Don. Good luck.

Thank you.

Becky: Thank you. Our next question is from Andre Madrid from BTIG. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Our next question is from Andre Madrid from btig. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Andre Madrid: Hey, Kim, Don, Dave. How are you guys?

Don Newman: Good. How are you, sir?

Hey, Kim, Dan, Dave, how are you guys? Um,

Andre Madrid: Doing well, thank you. I want to touch on, you know, in light of the Airbus and Boeing agreements, can you maybe just give us an update overall on LTA mix? Sorry if I missed it, but I don't think you guys called out exactly where that stands right now. And I mean, given that you're committed to, you know, remaining defensive around margins and that 20-plus percent target, I mean, how does that factor in? Do you feel like a higher LTA mix might prevent you from capturing upside through transactional pricing? How are you guys thinking about that internally? Sorry if that's a little loaded, but.

Good. How are you, sir?

Doing well, thank you. Uh, I want to touch on, you know, in light of the Airbus and Boeing agreements. Can you maybe just give us an update? Overall on LTA mix, uh, sorry if I missed it but I don't think you guys call that exactly where that stands right now and I mean given that you're committed to you know remaining defensive around margins and and that 20 plus uh, percent Target. I mean, how does that factor in? Do you feel like a higher LTA mix might prevent you from capturing upside through transactional pricing? Uh how are you guys thinking about that internally? Sorry if that's a little loaded but

Kim Fields: No, no, I appreciate you highlighting that because this gives us an opportunity. So, you know, our LTA mix with these new contracts is going to be around, call it 60% to 65%. And overall, for all of ATI, if you want to talk just about HPMC, that's closer to 70% to 75%. And what we're able to do is these capacity investments that we've been talking about, both the downstream, de-bottlenecking, productivity improvements, we're seeing increased output. I mean, you're seeing that in our revenues. You're seeing it in the HPMC margins. So we're seeing that increased output, which is giving us some really nice opportunities to opportunistically participate in transactional business as it's coming along with short lead times and, as you said, market pricing. So, you know, I think as we're going forward, we've talked about some investments we're putting in.

No, no, I appreciate you highlighting that because this gives us an opportunity. So, you know, our LTA mix, um, with these new contracts, it's going to be around call at 60 to 65%, um, and overall, for all of ATI, if you want to talk just about hpmc, that's closer to 7075. And what we're being able, what we're able to do is these capacity Investments that we've been talking about both the downstream

Kim Fields: We talked about the new melter out in Richland that's going to come on, that's going to give us increased capacity, as well as capability. So it does give us the flexibility to move between standard grade and premium grade. So we're continuing to keep pace to keep that, keep a part, a proportion of our mix available for transactional or emergent demand, which we didn't talk about. We've talked about the contract. We've talked about the volumes.

Kim Fields: We do anticipate, you know, as the build rates start to accelerate, that we are going to see, you know, at first in pockets of products and then later in the decade, more generally, emergent demand coming from the airframe, as well as the, you know, the engine guys as they're continuing to to keep up, which in these contracts, we, because of that, we have to be very, very careful that we have the capacity available. They all have volume maximums, which allow us to manage our capacity and make sure that we always have that increased volume that we can use either from a market standpoint or to service these contracts. But maybe more importantly, it allows us to flip to market pricing if that demand exceeds these contract limits. So, again, smart contracting team did a really, really nice job.

Bottlenecking productivity improvements, we're seeing increased output. I mean, you're seeing that in our, in our Revenue, you're seeing in the hpmc margins. So, we're seeing that increased output which is giving us some really nice opportunities to opportunistically, um, participate in transactional business as it's coming along with with short lead times. And as you said, um, market pricing. So, you know, I think, as we're going forward, we've talked about some Investments, we're putting in, um, we talked about the new melter out in Richland, that's going to come out, that's going to give us increased capacity, um, as long as capability. So it does give us the flexibility to move between standard grade and premium grade. So, we're continuing to keep Pace to keep that, um, keep a part of a proportion of our mix available for transactional or emergent demand, which we didn't talk about. We've talked about the contract. We've talked about the volumes. We do anticipate, you know, as the um,

The build rates start to accelerate that we are going to see, you know, at First, In Pockets of products, and then later in the decade more generally, um, emerging demand coming from the airframe as well as, you know, the engine guides as they're continuing to to keep up which in these contracts. We because of that, we have to be very very careful that we have the capacity available. They all have volume maximums which allow us to manage our capacity to make sure that we always have that increased volume that we can use either from

Kim Fields: We're excited about all these contracts, but that's how we're thinking about maintaining that balance in the LTA versus transactional business.

Market standpoint or to service these contracts, but maybe more importantly it allows us to flip to market pricing um if that demand exceeds these contract limits. So um, again smart Contracting team, did a really really nice job. We're excited about all these contracts but that's how we're thinking about maintaining that balance in the LTA versus transactional business.

Andre Madrid: No, Kim, that's incredibly helpful. Thank you. And then I guess, you know, again, apologies if I missed this, but you talked a bit about industrials and the puts and takes there, but medical also seemed weaker in the quarter. I know a peer of yours called that out last quarter as well. Are we seeing a broader downturn there? I know, you know, it's different from a volume perspective, but what is, could you provide any insight as to how things are trending in medical broadly?

Now, I can that that's incredibly helpful. Thank you. Um,

Uh, appear of yours called that out last quarter as well. Are we seeing a broader downturn there? I know. You know, it's, it's different from a volume perspective, but, but but what is can you provide any insight as to how things are trending in medical broadly?

Kim Fields: Yeah, sure. So, you know, that's a tough story this year. And you mentioned that, you know, our revenue is flat sequentially, but down year over year. And that softness, we see that continuing. It's a little bit, the story changes depending on what part of the medical industry or market that you're thinking about. You know, we see elevated inventories in certain pockets and destocking where people maybe got ahead of demand and bought. We do see, Don talked a little bit about these broader macro and trade-related headwinds, particularly as they've tied to China. And, you know, both from a demand and also some competitive pricing, pricing pressures have intensified. And frankly, that's made this market more competitive in the near term.

Yeah, sure. So you know, that's a tough

Sequentially but down um year-over-year and that softness, we see that continuing. It's a it's a little bit um

Kim Fields: And so as we've thought about, you know, this correction that we're navigating, that we're continuing to keep that discipline, focused on maintaining our price, that product mix. At the same time, those assets are very fragile to be used in this engine market where demand and MRO is, you know, accelerating so quickly. And so, again, as that pricing pressure comes, we're able to shift from the medical market into the engine. So I do see that softness still continuing. And again, for us, we're thinking about how do we deploy that for the engine and energy markets.

The, the story changes depending on what part of the medical industry or Market that you're thinking about, you know, we've seen elevated inventories in certain pockets and destocking where people maybe got ahead of demand and bought, we do see Don talked a little bit about these broader macro and trade related headwinds. Um, particularly as a t tied to China and um, you know, both from a demand and also some um competitive pricing pricing pressures have intensified and frankly that's made this Market more competitive in the near term. And so, as we've thought about, you know, this correction that we're navigating that we're continuing to keep that discipline focused on maintaining our price and our product mix. Um,

At the same time that those assets are very fun.

Great to be used in this jet engine Market, where demand and mro is is, you know, accelerating so quickly. And so again as that pricing pressure comes, we're able to shift from the medical Market into into the engine, so I do see that softness. So continuing and um again for us we're thinking about how do we deploy that for the engine and energy markets

Andre Madrid: Got it. Got it. Very helpful. I'll leave it there. Thank you so much.

Got it, got it very helpful. Uh, I'll leave it there. Thank you so much.

Kim Fields: Thanks. Have a great day.

Thanks. Have a great day.

Becky: Thank you. We currently have no further questions.

Don Newman: I think we're coming up on this. Yeah. Thank you very much. Good morning.

Thank you. We currently have no problem. I think we're coming up. So how about.

Yeah, thank you very much. Have a good lesson.

Andre Madrid: Thank you. Yeah. Thanks, everyone, for your time today. We look forward to talking more about our results for the second quarter. Feel free to reach out to us and the IR team with follow-up questions. And again, thank you for your time. Have a great day.

Thank you. Yeah, thanks everyone for your time today. Uh, we look forward to talking to you more about our results for the second quarter, feel free to reach out to us in the IR team, uh, with follow-up questions. And again, thank you for your time. Have a great day.