Q2 2025 Laureate Education Inc Earnings Call
Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Laureate education. Second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session after the speaker's presentation there.
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Adam Morse: Good morning, and thank you for joining us on today's call to discuss Laureate Education Inc. second quarter and year-to-date 2025 results. Joining me on the call today are Eilif Serck, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Rick Buskirk, Chief Financial Officer. Our earnings release is available on the Investor Relations section of our website at laureate.net. We have also posted a supplementary presentation to the website, which we will be referring to during today's call. The call is being webcast, and a complete recording will be available after the call. I would like to remind you that some of the information we are providing today, including but not limited to, our financial and operational guidance constitutes forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable U.S. securities laws.
Good morning and thank you for joining us on today's call to discuss large education, second quarter and year to date 2025 results.
Joining me on the call today are is Cirque canson president and chief executive officer and Rick buzzer Chief Financial Officer.
Earnings release is available on the investor relations section of our website at Lariat.
We've also posted a supplementary presentation to the website.
Which will be referred to during today's call.
The call is being webcast and a complete recording will be available after the call.
Adam Morse: Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may change at any time, and therefore, our actual results may differ materially from those we expected. Important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations are disclosed in our annual report on Form 10-K filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, our 10-Q filed earlier this morning, as well as other filings made with the SEC. In addition, all forward-looking statements are based on current expectations as of the date of this conference call, and we undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. Additionally, non-GAAP measures that we discuss, including, among others, adjusted EBITDA and its related margin, adjusted net income and adjusted earnings per share, total cash and equivalents, net of total debt, and free cash flow are also detailed and reconciled to their GAAP counterparts in our press release or supplementary presentation.
I would like to remind you that some of the information we are providing today, including but not limited to our financial and operational guidance. Constitutes forward-looking statements within the meaning of applicable us Securities laws.
For looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may change at any time and therefore our action results May differ materially from those. We expected
Important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from our expectations, our disclosed, and our annual report on form. 10K filed with the US Securities and Exchange Commission.
Our 10q filed earlier this morning.
As well as other filings made with the SEC.
In addition, all four looking statements are based on current expectations as of the date of this conference call.
And we undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statements.
Additionally, non get measures that we discuss including and among others adjusted Ava and its related margin adjusted, net income and adjusted earnings per share.
Adam Morse: Let me now turn the call over to Eilif.
Total cash and equivalents net of total debt and free cash flow are also detailed and reconciled to their GAAP counterparts in our press release or supplementary presentation.
Eilif Serck-Hanssen: Thank you, Adam Morse, and good morning, everyone. I am pleased to report strong execution across the board for the second quarter and the first half of the year. Through year-to-date June, new and total enrollments were up 7% and 6%, respectively, versus the comparable period in the prior year, driving 9% growth in revenue on a timing-adjusted and constant currency basis. We are also advancing our operating efficiency efforts and remain on track to expand adjusted EBITDA margins by approximately 150 basis points this year. In addition to solid operating results, we are also benefiting from favorable currency trends in the past few months.
Let me now turn the call over to Isis.
Thank you, Adam and good morning everyone. I am pleased to report strong execution across the board for the second quarter and the first half of the year.
Through year to date, June new and total enrollments were up 7%, and 6% respectively versus the comparable period in the prior year. Driving 9% growth in revenue on the timing adjusted and constant currency basis.
We are also advancing our operating efficiency efforts and remain on track to expand adjusted ibido modules by approximately 150 basis point this year.
Eilif Serck-Hanssen: As a result, we are raising full-year 2025 outlook at the midpoint by $55 million for revenue and $16 million for adjusted EBITDA. I am also pleased to report that our two new campus openings scheduled for September are on track, and we will be welcoming new students in both locations this upcoming intake cycle. These new campuses in Monterrey, Mexico, and Lima's ATA District are key components of our growth strategy and underscore our long-term commitment to expanding access to quality higher education where demand continues to rise. We have two additional new campus projects underway, one in each market, and expect those to open late next year or early 2027. Beyond that, we have identified numerous other cities and site locations in both Mexico and Peru that are ripe for development over the next five-year period.
In addition to solid operating results, we are also benefiting from favorable currency Trends. In the past few months, as a result, we are racing full year 2025 Outlook at the midpoint by 55 million for revenue and $16 million for adjusted e beta
I'm also pleased to report that there are 2 new campus opening scheduled for September are on track and we will be welcoming new students in both locations, this upcoming intake cycle.
These new campuses in Monterey Mexico and lemurs at the district are key components of our growth strategy, and underscore our long-term commitment to expanding access to Quality higher education, where demand continues to rise.
Eilif Serck-Hanssen: From a geopolitical perspective, we continue to closely monitor the macro developments in both markets. While the global operating environment remains complex, Mexico continues to demonstrate resilience, supported by a solid financial system, proven fiscal management, and continued interest rate cuts by the central bank. Inflation is largely contained, and we believe that the country is well-positioned to support improved GDP growth in 2026 and beyond. The momentum of the GDP growth will depend on the outcome of the pending U.S.-Mexico trade renegotiations, which are an important priority for both countries. A favorable trade agreement should provide added clarity and enhance conditions for foreign direct investment, which in turn will likely be an important accelerator for growth in Mexico. Moving on to Peru, Peru's economy has lapped the recession with solid broad-based momentum, as evidenced by 14 consecutive months of expansion, bringing year-to-date GDP growth to 3.1%.
To open late next year or early 2027 beyond that we have identified numerous other cities and site locations in both Mexico and Peru that are ripe for development over the next 5 year period.
From a geopolitical perspective, we continue to closely monitor the macro developments in both markets.
While the global operating environment remains complex Mexico, continues to demonstrate resilience supported by solid Financial systems, prudent fiscal management, and continued interest rate cuts by the central bank.
Inflation is largely contained and we believe that the country is well positioned to support improved GDP growth in 2026 and Beyond.
The momentum of GDP growth will depend on the outcome of the pending U.S.-Mexico trade renegotiations.
Which are an important priority for both countries.
A favorable trade agreement should provide added clarity and enhance conditions for foreign direct investments, which in turn will likely be an important accelerator for growth in Mexico.
Moving on to Peru.
Eilif Serck-Hanssen: This strong economic turnaround was also evidenced by the strength of our primary intake completed in April, where we delivered over 6% growth in new enrollments year over year. Peru's macroeconomic resilience is supported by abundant natural resources, stable inflation, low interest rates, and solid business and consumer confidence levels. We believe that these factors will position Peru for sustained growth and continued outperformance versus peers in Latin America. Regardless of political and macroeconomic trends, our business model has historically proven to be very resilient. We remain confident in the growing demand for quality, affordable higher education across both markets and our ability to capitalize on those growth opportunities, given our leading brands, strong value proposition, and industry-leading digital capabilities. Finally, I want to congratulate my academic teams in both Mexico and Peru for continuing to strengthen our brands and deliver great outcomes for our students.
Bruce economy has lapped the recession with solid broad-based momentum as evidenced by 14 consecutive months of expansion, bringing year-to-date GDP growth to 3.1% this strong economic. Turnaround was also evidence by the strength of our primary intake completed in April, where we delivered over 6% growth in new enrollments year-over-year.
Is macroeconomic resilience is supported by Abundant natural resources, stable inflation, low interest rates, and solid business, and consumer confidence levels.
We believe that these factors will position Peru for sustained growth and continued outperformance versus peers in Latin America.
regardless of political and macroeconomic Trends, our business model has historically, proven to be very resilient,
We remain confident in the growing demand for quality affordable, higher education, across both markets and our ability to capitalize on those growth opportunities, given our leading Brands, strong value proposition, and industry-leading digital capabilities.
Eilif Serck-Hanssen: On a daily basis, our team members are demonstrating their commitment to quality, innovation, and impact. Some recent achievements we are especially proud of include: In Mexico, UVM recently celebrated its 65th anniversary, marking a long legacy of preparing professionals to contribute to society. UVM also recently completed its reaccreditation process and was awarded the highest institutional accreditation level achievable by the Federation of Private Mexican Higher Education Institutions, also known as FIMPES, covering the next seven-year period. In Peru, UPC continues to lead the way in the market, earning the distinction of the top-ranked university in the country in the 2025 Times Higher Education Impact rankings, which measures a university's contribution to society based on the United Nations' Sustainable Development Goals. That concludes my prepared remarks.
Finally, I want to congratulate my academic teams in both Mexico and proof of continuing to strengthen our brands and deliver great outcomes for our students.
On a daily basis. Our team members are demonstrating their commitments to Quality Innovation and impact.
Some recent achievements we are especially proud of include, in Mexico, UVM recently celebrated its 65th anniversary, marking a long legacy of preparing professionals to contribute to society.
UVM also recently completed its 3 accredited and was awarded the highest institutional accreditation level achievable by the Federation of private Mexican higher education institutions also known as Fus covering the next 7-year period.
In Peru, UBC continues to lead the way in the market. Earning the distinction of the top ranked University in the country in the 2025 Times, Higher Education impact rankings, which measures a University's contribution to society, based on the United Nations sustainable development goals.
Eilif Serck-Hanssen: I will now turn the call over to Rick Buskirk for a more detailed financial overview of our second quarter and year-to-date performance, as well as further details on our 2025 full-year outlook. Rick?
That concludes my prepared remarks and I will note on the call over to Rick bosker for more detailed Financial overview of our second quarter and year to date performance as well as further details on our 2025 full year outlook.
Rick Buskirk: Thank you, Eilif. Before I discuss our financial performance for the quarter, let me provide a few important reminders on seasonality. Campus-based higher education is a seasonal business. While the second and fourth quarters are not major enrollment intake periods, they are the strongest in terms of revenue and adjusted EBITDA as students are in session and academic activity is at its peak. In addition, the timing of the start of our classes can shift year over year depending on various factors, such as when public universities begin classes or when holidays occur. This, in turn, affects the timing of enrollments in revenue recognition and quarter-over-quarter comparability. In 2025, the beginning of classes, particularly in Peru, started later versus 2024, extending the enrollment cycle into mid-April and beyond the first quarter cutoff.
Rick.
Thank you, Isis. Before I discuss our financial performance for the quarter. Let me provide a few important reminders on seasonality. Campus-based higher education is a seasonal business while the second and fourth quarter are not major in enrollment intake periods. They are the strongest in terms of Revenue and adjusted. Evida as students are in session and academic activity is at its peak.
In addition, the timing of the start of our classes can shift year-over-year depending on various factors, such as wind, public universities beginning classes, or when holidays occur.
Rick Buskirk: As a result, approximately $26 million of revenue and $23 million in adjusted EBITDA will shift from the first quarter to the second half of the year. As I review our operating results, I will provide additional color on these timing-related impacts. Let's start with pages 10 and 11, which highlight our operating and financial performance for the second quarter and year to date. Total enrollments increased by 6% when compared to the prior year quarter, driven by year-to-date new enrollment growth of 7%. Revenue in the seasonally strong second quarter was $524 million, and adjusted EBITDA was $214 million. Both metrics were ahead of the guidance provided three months ago, aided by favorable currency rates and timing of expenses.
This in turn affects the timing of enrollments in Revenue. Recognition and quarter over quarter comparability in 2025, the beginning of classes, particularly in Peru, started, later versus 2024 extending the enrollment cycle into mid-april and Beyond the first quarter cut off.
As a result approximately 26 million dollars of Revenue and 23 million in adjusted, Eva will shift from the first quarter to the second half of the year.
Operating results. I will provide additional color on these timing related impacts.
Let's start with pages 10 and 11, which highlight our operating and financial performance for the second quarter and year to date.
Total enrollments increased by 6%. When compared to the prior year quarter driven by year-to-date new enrollment growth of 7%.
Rick Buskirk: On an organic constant currency basis and adjusted for the academic calendar shift discussed earlier, revenue for the second quarter was up 8% year over year, and adjusted EBITDA increased by 13%. Second quarter net income was $97 million, resulting in earnings per share of $0.65 per share on a reported basis. Second quarter adjusted net income was $118 million, and adjusted earnings per share was $0.79 per share. When combined with the first quarter on an organic constant currency basis and adjusted for academic calendar timing, overall performance for the first half of 2025 was strong and resulted in revenue and adjusted EBITDA growth of 9% and 17%, respectively, versus the prior year period. Let me now provide some additional color on the performance of Mexico and Peru, starting with page 13. Please note that all comparisons versus prior year are on an organic and constant currency basis.
Revenue in the seasonally strong, second quarter was 524 million and adjusted Eva was 2004 million. Both metrics were ahead of the guidance provided 3 months ago, aided by favorable currency rates and timing of expenses.
On an organic, constant currency basis and adjusted for the academic calendar shift, discussed earlier revenue for the second quarter was up 8% year-over-year and adjusted ibida increase by 13%.
Second quarter. Net income was 97. Million resulting in earnings per share of 65 cents per share on a reported basis.
Second quarter adjusted. Net income was 118 million and adjusted earnings per share was 79 cents per share.
When combined, with the first quarter on an organic content, currency basis and adjusted for academic calendar, timing, overall performance, for the first half of 2025, was strong and resulted in revenue and adjusted Eva growth of 9% and 17% respectively. Versus the prior year period.
Let me now provide some additional color on the performance of Mexico and Peru starting with page 13.
Rick Buskirk: Let's start with Mexico. Mexico's new enrollments increased by 6% through June versus the prior year period, led by strong growth in working adult-focused fully online programs. Total enrollments increased 7%. Adjusted for timing of the academic calendar, Mexico's revenue for the second quarter increased 9% compared to the prior year period due to growth in enrollments. Adjusted EBITDA was up 19%, led by productivity gains and revenue flow-through. On a year-to-date basis, Mexico's revenue grew 10%, resulting from a 7% increase in average total enrollments and 3% of price mix. Overall pricing was in line to slightly above inflation for our traditional face-to-face students, offset from a mixed perspective by higher growth in working adult fully online programs. Adjusted EBITDA increased 20% year to date versus the prior year period. We continue to see steady improvements in profitability in Mexico, supported by disciplined execution and our efficiency initiatives.
Please note that all comparisons versus prior year are on an organic and constant currency basis.
Let's start with Mexico.
Mexico's, new enrollments increase by 6% through June versus the prior year period. Led by strong growth in working, adult focused, fully online programs, and total enrollment increased 7%.
Adjusted for timing of the academic calendar. Mexico's, revenue for the second quarter increased 9% compared to the prior year period, due to growth in enrollments.
And adjusted ibido was up. 19% led by productivity, gains and revenue flow through.
On a year to date basis, Mexico's Revenue, grew 10% resulting from a 7% increase in average total enrollments. And 3% of price makes, overall pricing was in line to slightly above inflation. For our traditional face-to-face. Students offset from a mixed perspective by higher growth in working adults fully online programs.
Rick Buskirk: Let's now transition to Peru on slide 14. Peru's primary enrollment cycle concluded in mid-April, with total enrollment growth of 6%, supported by strong demand from young students at our premium brand and continued growth in our fully online program serving working adults. In the second quarter, Peru's revenue increased 7% year over year, driven by growth in enrollment volume. Adjusted EBITDA was up 9% and benefited from the shifting of certain expenses to the second half of the year. On a year-to-date basis and adjusted for timing of the academic calendar, Peru's revenue increased 7% versus the prior year period. Overall, pricing was in line with inflation for our traditional face-to-face students, partially offset by mix as we continue to scale our fully online programs. Adjusted EBITDA increased 10% year to date, timing adjusted versus the prior year period, increasing margins by approximately 111 basis points.
Adjusted Eva increased 20% year to date versus the prior year period, we continue to see steady improvements in profitability, in Mexico, supported by disciplined execution and our efficiency initiatives.
Let's now transition to Peru on slide 14, peruse primary enrollment cycle concluded in mid-april with total enrollment growth of 6% supported by strong demand. From Young students that are premium brand and continued growth in our fully online programs, serving working adults.
In the second quarter, peruse Revenue, increase 7% year-over-year driven by growth and enrollment volume adjusted. IA was up 9% and benefited from the shifting of certain expenses to the second half of the year.
On a year-to-date basis and adjusted for the timing of the academic calendar, revenue increased 7% versus the prior year period.
Overall pricing was in line with inflation for our traditional face-to-face students. Partially offset by mix as we continue to scale our fully online programs.
Rick Buskirk: Let me now briefly discuss our balance sheet position. Laureate ended June with $135 million in cash and $116 million in gross debt, resulting in a net cash position of $19 million. Our balance sheet remains strong. Through June of this year, we repurchased $71 million of common stock under the previously announced $100 million repurchase program. The third quarter represents our largest cash flow intake period, and we anticipate continuing to return excess capital to shareholders in the second half of the year following the completion of the upcoming intake cycle. Moving on to our outlook for 2025, starting on page 18. Today, we are increasing our full-year guidance at the midpoint by $55 million for revenue and $16 million for adjusted EBITDA, reflecting the improvement in foreign currency exchange rates Eilif discussed earlier.
Adjusted EBITDA increased 10% year-to-date, timing adjusted, versus the prior year period, increasing margins by approximately 111 basis points.
Let me now briefly discuss our balance sheet position, laurate ended, June with 135 million in cash and 116 million in Gross debt. Resulting in a net cash position of 19 million. Our balance sheet remains strong
Through June of this year. We repurchased 71 million of common stock under the previously announced $100 million repurchase program.
The third quarter represents our largest cash flow intake period. And we anticipate continuing to return excess Capital to shareholders in the second half of the Year, following the completion of the upcoming intake cycle.
Moving on to our outlook for 2025, starting on page 18.
Rick Buskirk: The operating trends in the business remain solid, and we are maintaining our full-year revenue and adjusted EBITDA outlook on a constant currency basis. We will provide an update on our operational outlook during our third quarter earnings call following completion of the upcoming intake cycle. While still early in the intake process, we are encouraged by the trends. Factoring in the foreign exchange rate favorability, we now expect our full-year results to be as follows: total enrollments to remain in the range of 491,000 to 495,000 students, reflecting growth of 4% to 5% versus 2024. Revenue to be in the range of $1.615 billion to $1.630 billion, reflecting growth of 3% to 4% on an as-reported basis and growth of 6% to 7% on an organic constant currency basis versus 2024, or 7% to 8%, excluding the impact from campus consolidations in Mexico.
Reflecting the Improvement in foreign currency exchange rate eyelet discussed earlier.
The operating Trends in the business remain solid and we are maintaining our full year revenue and adjusted Eva outlook on a constant currency basis.
We will provide an update on our operational Outlook during our third quarter earnings, call following completion of the upcoming intake cycle. While still early in the intake process, we are encouraged by the trends.
factoring in the foreign exchange rate favorability, we now expect our full year results to be as follows
Total enrollments to remain in the range of 491,000 to 495,000 students reflecting growth of 4 to 5% versus 2024.
Rick Buskirk: Adjusted EBITDA to be in the range of $489 million to $496 million, reflecting growth of 9% to 10% on an as-reported basis and 11% to 13% on an organic constant currency basis versus 2024. The approximately 150 basis points of margin expansion at the midpoint of our guidance will be driven by operating leverage from revenue growth, our campus consolidations in Mexico, and lower corporate expenses. Lastly, for 2025, we expect adjusted EBITDA to unlevered free cash flow conversion of approximately 50% on a reported basis. This implies strong double-digit year-over-year growth in U.S. dollar reported cash flows. Now moving to the third quarter guidance, which includes $7 million of unfavorable entry-year academic calendar timing, as illustrated on page 22 of our presentation.
Revenue is expected to be in the range of $1.615 billion to $1.630 billion, reflecting growth of 3% to 4% on an as-reported basis and growth of 6% to 7% on an organic constant currency basis versus 2024, or 7% to 8%. This excludes the impact from campus consolidations in Mexico.
adjusted ibida to be in the range of 489 million to 496 million, reflecting growth of 9 to 10% on an as reported basis and 11 to 13% on an organic constant currency basis versus 2024
The approximately 150 basis points of margin expansion at the, midpoint of our guidance will be driven by operating. Leverage from revenue growth. Our campus consolidations in Mexico and lower corporate expenses.
Lastly, for 2025, we expect adjusted evida to unlevered free, cash flow conversion of approximately 50% on a reported basis.
This implies strong double digits year-over-year growth in US dollar, reported cash flows.
Rick Buskirk: For the third quarter of 2025, we expect revenue to be in the range of $375 million to $379 million, adjusted EBITDA of approximately $78 million to $82 million, which includes the shifting of expenses from the second quarter to the third I referenced earlier. Eilif, I am handing it back to you for your closing comments.
Now moving to the third quarter guidance, which includes 7 million of unfavorable intra-year academic calendar timing as Illustrated on page 22 of our presentation.
For the third quarter of 2025, we expect Revenue to be in the range of 375 million to 379 million.
Adjusted evida of approximately 78, million to 82 million dollars, which includes a shifting of expenses from the second quarter to the third our referenced earlier.
I live. I'm hanging back to you for your closing comments.
Eilif Serck-Hanssen: Thank you, Rick. As we enter the second half of 2025 and approach our next major intake cycle, I remain confident in the strong momentum we have built. Our growth agenda continues to advance across both of our core markets. We are broadening our academic portfolio, scaling our digital offering to better serve working adults, and strategically expanding our footprint through targeted campus openings in high-growth areas. At the same time, we are making solid progress on our efficiency initiatives, which are driving improved margins and stronger free cash flow generation. We hold a privileged position as the leading private higher education provider in Mexico and Peru, two of the most attractive private education markets in Latin America. The continued expansion of the middle class, increasing participation rates in higher education, and a constructive regulatory environment all reinforce the long-term attractiveness of these markets.
Thank you, Rick. As we enter the second half of 2025, an approach to our next major intake cycle. I remain confident in the strong momentum we have built.
Our growth agenda continues to advance across both of our core markets.
We are broadening our academic portfolio, scaling our digital offering to better serve working adults.
And strategically expanding our footprint, through targeted campus openings in high growth areas.
At the same time, we are making solid progress on our efficiency initiatives which are driving improved margins and stronger for free cash flow generation.
We hold a privileged position as the leading private higher education provider in Mexico and Peru 2 of the most attractive private education markets in Latin America.
They continued expansion of the middle class, increasing participation rates in higher education.
Eilif Serck-Hanssen: We believe we are well-positioned to deliver sustainable value to our students, our partners, and our shareholders for years to come. Operator, that concludes our prepared remarks. We are now happy to take any questions from the participants.
And a constructive regulatory environment, all reinforced, enhances the long-term attractiveness of these markets.
we believe we are well, positioned to deliver sustainable value to our students, our partners, and our shareholders, for years to come,
Operator, that concludes our prepared remarks.
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Ryan (for Jeff Silber): Hey, good morning. This is Ryan on for Jeff. I know it's early, but any indications on the student application pipeline for Mexico's primary intake period this fall? I think you said you were encouraged by the trend. We're just wondering if you could break that apart a little bit more and what you're hearing from students. Thank you.
And our first question comes from Jeff Silver of BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.
Eilif Serck-Hanssen: Hey, Ryan. This is Eilif. We are about halfway through the main intake. As Rick noted, we are encouraged by where we are. We just completed what we call the C2 intake, which is really a working adult intake in June-July. We were growing that high single digit. We are very, very encouraged by the strength of the working adult student. As I said, we are well underway now with the main intake, which is primarily young students or traditional undergraduate students. More to come on that, but so far so good.
Hey, good morning. This is Ryan on for Jeff. I know it's early, but any indications on the student application pipeline for Mexico's, primary intake, period, this fall. I think you said you were encouraged by the trend. We're just wondering if you could break that apart a little bit more and what you're hearing from students. Thank you.
Because the C2 intake, which is, um, uh, really a, a working adult intake. Uh, you know, in June July and we were growing that high single digits. Um, and, uh, it's a very, very church but the strength of the, the working adult student. Uh, and, um, and as I said, well on the way know with the main intake, which is, primarily young students or traditional on The Graduate students, uh, and, you know, more to come on that but so far, so good.
Ryan (for Jeff Silber): Got it. I just had one follow-up. I was hoping you might be able to help me on some of the revenue upside for the quarter. Even after adjusting for the $8 million, it was still a bit above the guidance. I was wondering if that was FX or anything else to kind of call out there. Thank you.
Eilif Serck-Hanssen: Rick, do you want to take that?
Rick Buskirk: Yeah, sure. Hey, Ryan. This is Rick. Exactly. The $20 million of outperformance versus the high end of the range was primarily associated with FX. So $18 million of it was FX related. As you've seen, the Mexican peso appreciated significantly. That was around 9%. Then we did have $2 million of operational outperformance that was a bit of the carry forward from a strong enrollment intake in Q1 and re-enrollments that continued through working adult in Q2, as Eilif noted.
And then I was just I I just had 1 follow up, I was hoping you might be able to help me on some of the revenue upside for the quarter. Uh, even after adjusting for the 8 million, it was still a bit above. The guidance was wondering, if you know that was FX or or anything else to kind of call out there. Thank you, Rick. Do you want to take that? Yeah, sure. Hey Ryan, this is Rick. Um, exactly the the 20 million dollars of outperformance versus a high end of the range was primarily associated with FX.
Um so the 1800 of it was FX related and as you've seen the the Mexican peso appreciated significantly.
Um, and so that around 9%, and then we did have 2 million of operational outperformance.
That was a bit of the carry forward from a strong enrollment intake in C1 and re-enrollment that. Continued through working adult and C2 as I left noted.
Ryan (for Jeff Silber): Very helpful. Thank you.
Adam Morse: Thank you. As a reminder, if you have a question, please press star one-one. Our next question comes from Lucas Nagano of Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
Very helpful. Thank you.
Thank you. And as a reminder, if you have a question, please press star 1 1.
Our next question comes from Lucas Nagano of Morgan, Stanley. Your line is open.
Lucas Nagano: Good morning. We had two questions. The first is related to online learning in Peru. It appears that you are increasing your focus on online there. How is this trend developing? How does the product and the acceptance compare to Mexico? The second question is related to the new campuses. If I am correct, you are opening two in the second half, and then there are two more on the way. Can you provide some color about the regions and the brand of those campuses? How is your sense of demand for the next intake cycle there?
Good morning. Uh,
We have 2 questions. So the first is related to, to all our new Peru, it appears that you're including your focus on online there. Uh, how is this trend developing? How, how does the product and the the acceptance? Uh, compared to Mexico? And the second question is related to the new pensis
But if I'm correct, you're opening 2 in the second half and then there are 2 more on the way. So can you provide some color about the regions and the brand of those campuses and how is your sense of demand?
Eilif Serck-Hanssen: Absolutely. Starting off with Peru, as you will recall, the regulatory environment in Peru was revised post-COVID. There was limited fully online activity in Peru until 2023. So, we have really ramped the business very nicely. It is growing double digits. We have launched all of the programs that we wanted in the initial wave and are seeing very strong interest by the working adult students for that fully online product in Peru, just as we saw a couple of years ago in Mexico. So, very confident that the fully online working adult product in Peru can mirror the fully online development that we have seen over the last four or five years in Mexico. That is very encouraging. Going on to the face-to-face young student growth plan, which involves new campus developments, we are opening in September a new campus in Monterrey for the value brand Unitech in Mexico.
For the next intake cycle there.
ABS absolutely starting off with the, with Peru as you will recall, uh, the regulatory environment in Peru, um, was, uh, revised. You know, postco, uh, there was limited, uh, you know, fully online activity in Peru, until 2023. So we have really ramped the business, very nicely. It is growing, uh, double digits. Um, and we have launched all of the programs that, you know, we wanted in the, you know, the initial wave. And I seeing very strong, um, uh, uh, strong interest, um, by the working adult students for that, fully online, uh, product in Peru. Just as we saw a couple of years ago in Mexico. So, um, the very confident that the fully online working at all product in Peru, uh, can can, you know, mirror, uh, the fully online development that we have seen over the last, you know, 4 or 5 years in in Mexico. So that's very encouraging.
Eilif Serck-Hanssen: We are opening a campus in East Lima in an area called ATA for UPN, which is the value brand in Peru. Both campuses will open in September. There is robust interest and demand for those two locations. We expect over a five to six-year period these campuses to get to maturity. These campuses have a very attractive IRR. We have two more campuses under development, one in Mexico and one in Peru, that we expect to open in late 2026, early 2027. As I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we are very fortunate to have a long list of very attractive sites that are ripe for development in both Mexico and Peru over the next five years. So, more to come on that when we are ready to announce further campus developments.
Uh, going on to the um, you know, the face-to-face young student uh growth plan, which involves a new campus development. Uh, we are opening in September, uh, a new campus in Monterey for the value brand. Unitek in Mexico and we are opening uh, a campus in East lemur uh in an area called ate uh for UPN which is a value brand in Peru. Uh both campuses will open in.
In September as robust, um, interest and and, and demand for those 2 locations. And we expect, you know, over you know, 5 to 6 year period, these campuses to get to maturity uh and these campuses have a very attractive irr. And um we have 2 more campuses um um uh on the development 1 in Mexico and 1 in Peru that we expect to open in late 26 early, 27. And as I mentioned, in my prepared remarks, uh, we are very fortunate to have a long list of um very attractive, um, sites that are ripe for development in both Mexico and Peru over the next. Um, 5 years, Sim more to come on that. Uh, when we are ready to to announce further, uh, campus developments
Lucas Nagano: How did that change the level of CapEx compared to previous years when you were not opening campuses?
Eilif Serck-Hanssen: In the last couple of years, we have had a little bit of a CapEx holiday because coming out of COVID, we were able to grow very robustly by creating capacity for young students through higher hybridity percentage. This means that the traditional young undergraduate students pre-COVID were 90%-plus face-to-face and a very small percentage of digital. Now it is more 60% face-to-face and 40% digital, which meant that we could grow robustly through very capital-efficient means. If you look at 2019 to 2023, CapEx's percentage of revenues was really 2% of maintenance CapEx and maybe 1% of lab investments and refurbishments and expansion of existing campus footprint.
Years. We have had a little bit of a capex holiday, uh, because we...
Coming out of Co. Um, we were able to grow very robustly uh, by creating capacity for young students through higher hybridity, percentage. So which means that, you know, the traditional uh young undergraduate students. A a pre-covid was you know, 90 plus percent face-to-face, and a very small percentage of digital. Uh, no, it is more 60%, um, uh, face to face and 40%, um, uh, digital, which meant that we could grow robustly, uh, through. Um, very Capital. Efficient means. So, if you look at, you know, 20,
Eilif Serck-Hanssen: What we have said is that the growth algorithm, if you are thinking about a momentum where we are growing enrollments at 6% plus minus, which results in revenues at 8% to 10% annually, then that is going to take about 5% of revenues to be invested in CapEx to support that. That would basically mean that you will have one to two new campus launches per year. If you add another campus to that, CapEx may go 6% to 7%, but then also growth will be lifted as well. That is basically the growth algorithm.
You know, 19 to 2020, uh, 3 cap is percentage, uh, of revenues was really, you know, 2% of Maintenance capex and maybe 1% of, you know, lab Investments and refurbishments, uh, and, and and expansion of existing, uh, campus footprint.
Um, what we have said, is that the growth algorithm if you thinking about a, a momentum where we are growing, um, Revenue enrollments that you know, 6 6% plus minus, uh, which results in revenues at 8 to 10%, uh, annually. Then that is going to take about 5% of revenues to be invested in capex, to support that. And then, of course, if you
Uh, and that, that would basically mean that you'll have, you know, 1 to 2, new campus launches, uh, per year and if you, you know, add, uh, you know, another campus, um, uh, to that, you know, capex may go, you know, 6 to 7%, but then also, uh, growth will, you know, be lifted as well. Uh, so so that's basically the uh, the, the growth algorithm.
Lucas Nagano: All right. Thank you.
Adam Morse: Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session and today's conference call. Thank you for participating, and you may now disconnect.
All right. Thank you.
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Eilif Serck-Hanssen: Thanks, everyone.
Thanks everyone.