Q2 2025 Atlanta Braves Holdings Inc Earnings Call
Operator: Greetings, welcome to the Atlanta Braves Holdings Q2 earnings call. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Thank you. As a reminder, this call is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Cameron Rudd, Vice President of Investor Relations.
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Cameron Rudd: The full definition of non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the comparable GAAP financial measures are contained in the Form 10-Q and earnings press release available on the company's website. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Terence McGuirk, Chairman, President, and CEO of Atlanta Braves Holdings.
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Terence McGuirk: Good morning, welcome to the Atlanta Braves Holdings Q2 2025 Earnings Call. Before diving into our results, I wanted to take a moment to thank everyone who joined us virtually and in person for our first Investor Day in June. It was a special moment for our entire organization, and I speak on behalf of the full team when I say how proud we were to finally show you what we have achieved in building The Battery Atlanta and the ballpark and creating such an outstanding experience for baseball fans and the general public. It was a great opportunity to highlight how our sports, entertainment, and real estate businesses come together to create something truly unique and powerful. A few short weeks later, we were honored to host MLB's All-Star Game right here at Truist Park. Notably, three of our own players were selected to participate for the National League.
Now I'd like to turn the call over to Terry mcgurk chairman president and CEO of Atlanta Braves Holdings.
Good morning and welcome to the Atlanta Braves Holdings second quarter 2025 earnings call.
Before diving into our results. I wanted to take a moment to thank everyone who joined us virtually and in person for our first investor Day in June
It was a special moment for our entire organization and I speak on behalf of the full team. When I say how proud We were to. Finally show you what we have achieved in building the battery and the ballpark and creating such an outstanding experience for Baseball fans and the General Public.
It was a great opportunity to highlight how our sports entertainment and real estate businesses come together to create something truly unique and powerful.
A few short weeks later. We were honored to host MLB's All-Star game right here at truist Park.
Terence McGuirk: Ronald Acuña Jr. started in the outfield. Matt Olson and Chris Sale were both named to the team, and Matt also competed in the Home Run Derby. We also honored the great Hank Aaron in a moving tribute during the game on Tuesday night. The energy around the event was incredible. Over the course of All-Star Week, more than 137,000 tickets were purchased for events inside Truist Park, and over 250,000 people visited The Battery and experienced firsthand our world-class neighborhood and all the food and entertainment that we have to offer. It was truly another great opportunity to showcase Atlanta, Truist Park, and The Battery to baseball fans from around the world. In addition to All-Star Week hosted here in Atlanta, we were incredibly proud to have been selected to participate in MLB Speedway Classic at the Bristol Motor Speedway in Tennessee last weekend.
Notably 3 of our own players were selected to participate for the national league. Ronald Acuna Jr. Started in the Outfield, Matt Olsen and Chris Sale were both named to the team and Matt also competed in the Home Run Derby.
We also honored the great Hank, Aaron in a moving tribute during the game on Tuesday night.
The energy around the event was incredible over the course of All-Star week, more than 137,000 tickets were purchased for events inside truist Park in over 250,000. People visited the battery.
And experienced firsthand our world-class neighborhood and all the food and entertainment that we have to offer. It was truly another great opportunity to showcase Atlanta truist Park and the battery to Baseball fans from around the world.
Terence McGuirk: The game broke the single-game regular season attendance record with more than 92,000 fans in attendance, 70,000 of which were Braves fans. Again, underscoring the strength of Braves country as well as the game of baseball. Now turning to our performance on the field, this season has been a difficult one from the beginning. We started the season without three stars, Jurickson Profar, Ronald Acuña Jr., and Spencer Strider, and endured a very tough opening road trip. While we were fortunate to get these three back on the field, we have endured some of the hardest injury news I have ever witnessed. Since opening day, we have lost all five of our opening day starting pitchers to injuries, and Ronald is once again on the IL.
At the Bristol Motor Speedway in Tennessee last weekend.
The game broke the single game regular season attendance recorded with more than 92,000 fans in attendance 70,000 of which were Brave fans again, underscoring the strength of Braves country as well as the game of baseball.
Now, turning to our performance on the field, this season has been a difficult 1 from the beginning.
We started this season without 3 stars jerks and profar Ronald Acuna Jr and Spencer Strider and endured a very tough opening road trip.
And while we were fortunate to get these 3 back on the field, we have endured some of the hardest injury news I have ever witnessed.
Since opening day, we have lost all 5 of our opening day. Starting pitchers to injuries.
Terence McGuirk: Baseball is unpredictable, and while we continue to try and weather the storm, these tough injuries have definitely impacted our team record in a significant way. While it's a challenge to compete in the short run, we are doing everything we can to get our players back on the field and finish the season strong. Now that's the bad news. The good news is that almost all of our injured players are expected to be healthy and ready for the 2026 season. Our hope is that we can return to National League dominance by next spring. Our goal is to compete for a World Series title every year, and anything short of that is a disappointment. We will be doing everything we can in the off-season to return to our winning ways.
And Ronald is once again on the iel.
Baseball is unpredictable. And while we continue to try and weather the storm,
these tough injuries have definitely impacted our team record in a significant way.
Well, it's a challenge to compete in the short run, we are doing everything we can to get our players back on the field and finish the season strong.
Now, that's the bad news. The good news is that almost all of our injured players are expected to be healthy and ready for the 2026 season.
So, our hope is that we can return to national dominance by next spring.
Our goal is to compete for a world series title every year.
Terence McGuirk: Before I turn it over to Derek Schiller, Mike Plant, and Jill Robinson, I'd like to make the observation that the business model that we have created here at The Battery Atlanta, the ballpark, and the array of entertainment options, drives consistent fan loyalty and economic success in a game where winning and losing can turn on the luck of an injury. What we have built in Atlanta is the model that every other MLB franchise is chasing because of our ability to deliver consistent results in a cyclical sports team environment. As The Wall Street Journal on 15 July said in an article on the Atlanta Braves, I quote, "They have become an economic juggernaut and have turbocharged perhaps the most profound change in professional sports in a generation." End quote. I want to thank The Wall Street Journal. I couldn't have said it better.
And anything short of that is a disappointment, we will be doing everything we can in the offseason to return to Our Winning ways.
Before I turn it over to Derek Mike and Jill. I'd like to make the observation that the business model that we have created here at the battery. The ballpark and the array of entertainment options, drives, consistent fan, loyalty and economic success in a game where winning and losing can turn on the luck of an injury.
What we have built in Atlanta, is the model that every other MLB franchise is chasing because of our ability to deliver consistent results in a cyclical sports team environment.
as the Wall Street Journal on July 15th, said, in an article on the Braves and I quote
They have become an economic Juggernaut and have turbocharged perhaps the most profound change in professional sports in a generation end quote.
Terence McGuirk: This is the concept that I would direct your focus to. Not only is our new business model successful, but, more importantly, it fuels our efforts to return to perennial World Series contenders again. With that, I will now turn it over to Derek, Mike, and Jill, who will walk through the results from the quarter.
I want to thank the Wall Street Journal. I couldn't have said it better.
So this is the concept that I would direct your focus to not only is our new business model successful, but more importantly, it fuels our efforts to return to Perennial World Series contenders again.
Derek Schiller: Thank you, Terry, and good morning to you all. As Terry mentioned earlier, we are fortunate to have a strong and loyal fan base, many of whom come to Truist Park and The Battery to watch games and experience the festivities around our games. We're also fortunate to have a strong and loyal ticket base, which we call the A-List. Their commitment underscores the strength of Braves country. Our premium and regular season tickets are sold out for the rest of the year, as are most of our single-game hospitality spaces, and these represent a significant portion of our ticketing revenues for any given season. We continue to see strong demand for our tickets overall, but we do expect to see some reductions in attendance now that school has started and given our team performance.
And with that, I will now turn it over to Derek Mike and Jill who will walk through the results from the quarter. Thank you, Terry, and good morning to you all, as Terry mentioned earlier. We are fortunate to have a strong and little fan base. Many of whom come to truist park, in the battery, to watch games, and experience the festivities around our games. We're also fortunate to have a strong and loyal ticket base, which we call the A-list. Their commitment, underscores the strength of Braves country. Our premium and regular season tickets are sold out for the rest of the year, as our most of our single game Hospitality spaces. And these represent a significant portion of our ticketing revenues for any given season.
Derek Schiller: While show rates are down slightly compared to last year, a significant portion of our event revenue is relatively stable and predictable. We continually evaluate our ticketing marketplace as we look to optimize our mix in the stadium between season tickets, group tickets, and single-game options. This is an evolving process and one that we focus on to maximize our fan experience and opportunities for ticketing offerings around the ballpark. Our season ticket package, in particular, continues to offer exclusive benefits to our A-List members and has one of the highest discounts against market demand in all of Major League Baseball. Our broadcast changes have been well-received, led by the new offerings FanDuel Sports Network is bringing to the marketplace, including their direct-to-consumer streaming service.
We continue to see strong demand for our tickets overall, but we do expect to see some reductions in attendance. Now that school has started and given our team performance and while show rates are down slightly compared to last year. A significant portion of our event revenue is relatively stable and predictable, we continually evaluate our ticketing Marketplace. As we look to optimize our mix in the stadium between season tickets, group tickets and single game options. This is an evolving process and 1 that we focus on the maximize, our Fan Experience and opportunities for ticketing offerings around the ballpark.
Our season ticket package in particular continues to offer, exclusive benefits to our A-list members and has 1 of the highest discounts against market demand in all of Major League Baseball.
Derek Schiller: This streaming subscription allows all fans with internet service in our defined television territory to be able to watch games. FanDuel Sports Network has indicated that the Braves games are among the most watched in MLB via FanDuel streaming platform. Additionally, we added an over-the-air broadcast option in partnership with Gray Television that adds 15 simulcast games this season, with about half of those already broadcast in H1 of the season. Gray Television has added additional Braves programming to these broadcasts, which has opened up a new audience who has shown great interest in following Braves-related programming. Overall, the broadcast changes we have made with these two partners have been well-received and have given us significant insights into the robust fandom throughout Braves country.
Our broadcast changes have been well received led by the new offerings. FanDuel Sports network is bringing to the marketplace including their direct to Consumer streaming service. This streaming subscription allows all fans with internet, service and are defined television territory to be able to watch games and FanDuel. Sports network has indicated that the Braves games are among the most watched in M Mo via FanDuel streaming platform.
15 cemo cast games this season with about half of those already broadcast in the first half of the season.
Gray has added additional Braves programming to these broadcasts which has opened up a new audience who has shown great interest in following Braves related programming.
Derek Schiller: Back here at the ballpark, we are proud of having what we believe is one of the top experiences in baseball. Some of our recently completed master planning projects further emphasize this point. Our new Children's Healthcare of Atlanta Park, located inside the stadium, has quickly become a favorite with some of our youngest fans and parents alike. The wiffle ball field and climbing wall are some of the most popular attractions. Our outfield market continues to be a successful addition to the ballpark, expanding our food offerings beyond the classic stadium experience and featuring local restaurants from across Braves country. Coupled with the growing entertainment options at The Battery, the experience of attending a Braves game continues to be a strong draw.
Overall the broadcast changes we have made with these 2 Partners have been well received and have given us significant insights into the robust fandom throughout Braves country.
Back here at the Ballpark, we are proud of having what we believe is 1 of the top experiences in baseball. And some of our recently completed Master planning projects, further emphasize this point.
Our new Children's Healthcare of Atlanta Park, located inside the stadium, has quickly become a favorite with some of our youngest fans and parents alike. The wiffle ball field and climbing wall are some of the most popular attractions. Our Outfield Market continues to be a successful addition to the ballpark, expanding our food offerings beyond the classic stadium experience and featuring local restaurants from across Braves country.
Derek Schiller: To close, as Terence McGuirk mentioned, we are coming off of a very successful All-Star Week, where the baseball world shined a spotlight on what we have built here, and they were all amazed. We continue to be operationally strong, strategically adaptable, and focused on creating great experiences and lifelong memories for our fans. On behalf of the entire organization, thank you to our staff, who have worked tirelessly with all that has been going on, to our players for their perseverance, to our shareholders for your continued support, and most of all, to those fans who wear the A proudly on their hats. With that, I will now turn the call over to Mike Plant, who will walk you through our real estate business and results in detail.
Coupled with the growing entertainment options at the battery, the experience of attending a brave game continues to be a strong draw.
To close. As Terry mentioned, we are coming off of a very successful All-Star week where the baseball world shines a spotlight on what we have built here and they were all amazed. We continue to be operationally, strong strategically adaptable, and focused on creating great experiences and lifelong memories for our fans. So, on behalf of the entire organization, thank you to our staff who have worked
Mike Plant: Thank you, Derek. Our real estate strategy remains a cornerstone of the Braves' business model, designed not only to support our team on the field but also to drive consistent reoccurring revenue. The strength and versatility of our real estate portfolio were on full display during All-Star Week. We had the opportunity to show the world what we've built, a dynamic multi-use hub for sports and entertainment. The Battery Atlanta played a key role in why we were selected as hosts, reinforcing our reputation as a premier destination. On to a few key real estate development updates. First, we're proud to announce the official opening of the new Truist Securities headquarters at The Battery Atlanta, where employees have started to move in. Approximately 1,000 employees will populate the office at full capacity, creating both incremental revenue and increased foot traffic for surrounding retail, dining, and entertainment offerings.
Tirelessly with all that has been going on to our players for their perseverance, to our shareholders, for your continued support. And most of all to those fans who wear the a proudly on their hats with that, I'll now turn the call over to Mike who will walk you through our real estate business and results in detail.
Thank you Derek. Our real estate strategy remains a Cornerstone of the Braves business model designed not only to support our team on the field but also to drive consistent reoccurring Revenue.
The strength and versatility of our real estate portfolio. We're unfold display during All-Star week. We had the opportunity to show the world. What we've built a dynamic, multi-use hub for sports and entertainment the battery. Atlanta played a key role in why we were selected as hosts reinforcing our reputation as a premier destination.
now, on to a few key, real estate development updates,
Mike Plant: Second, Shake Shack has officially opened its doors to their newest flagship location, featuring the brand's first-of-its-kind bar, as well as their second US support center office space located in over 25,000 square feet of 2 Ballpark Center. This partnership is both strategic and brand aligned, and we're excited to welcome Shake Shack fans and staff. Third, at Pennant Park, we've made meaningful progress. We've invested over $1 million on capital infrastructure and amenity upgrades and are actively pursuing over 100,000 square feet in new or renewal deals, which we hope to announce later this year. As an example of the strong tenant profile we have, Home Depot, one of our largest tenants in Pennant Park, just spent over $1 million in improvements to their current footprint, including adding a new restaurant cafeteria.
First, we're proud to announce the official opening of the new truist Securities headquarters at the battery Atlanta where employees have started to move in approximately 1,000 employees will populate the office at full capacity creating both incremental revenue and increased foot traffic for surrounding retail dining and entertainment offerings.
Second, Shake Shack has officially opened its doors to their newest Flagship location featuring. The Brand's first of its kind bar as well as their second us support center office space located over 25,000 square feet of 2 ballpark Center. This partnership is both strategic and brand aligned and we're excited to welcome Shake Shack fans and staff.
Third at Penn and park. We've made meaningful progress. We've invested over 1 million on Capital, infrastructure and amenity upgrades and are actively pursuing over 100,000 square feet in New Or renewal deals, which we hope to announce later this year.
Mike Plant: Moving on to overall performance of the Braves Development Company, we're seeing strong demand across retail, entertainment, and office segments, highlighted by both renewed leases and new tenants that align with our premium positioning. We are constantly evolving our tenant mix to provide the best experience to millions of fans and visitors who visit The Battery Atlanta. A recent example of this is the new Shake Shack replacing Wahlburgers or Walk-On's Sports Bistreaux replacing the older Mac McGee's Irish Pub. This highlights both the draw we have for our highly coveted location and the ability we have to continuously optimize our campus. We're incredibly proud of what we've built. As always, we remain opportunistic about our pursuit of projects and partnerships that reflect our vision for future development.
As an example of the strong tenant profile, we have Home Depot 1 of our largest tenants in pennant Park. Just spent over 1 million in improvements to their current footprint, including adding a new restaurant cafeteria moving on to overall performance of the Braves development company. We're seeing strong demand across retail, entertainment and office segments highlighted by both renewed, leases and new tenants that align with our premium positioning
We are constantly evolving. Our tenant mix to provide the best experience to millions of fans and visitors who visit the battery Atlanta recent. Example of this are the new Shake Shack replacing Wahlburgers or walk-on Sports beastro replacing the older Mac McGee's Irish Pub.
this highlights both the draw we have for our highly coveted location and the ability we have to continuously optimize our campus
Mike Plant: We believe we're building something truly unique and lasting, not just for our fans, but for the broader community, driving engagement, economic growth, and value creation. With that, I will now turn the call over to Jill Robinson to discuss the company's financials.
We're incredibly proud of what we've built as always, we remain opportunistic about our pursuit of projects and Partnerships that reflect our vision for future development.
We believe we're building something truly unique and Lasting. Not just for our fans, but for the broader Community driving engagement economic growth and value creation.
Jill Robinson: Thanks, Mike. Before I begin, I want to remind everyone that a majority of our revenue is seasonal and is aligned to the baseball season. During Q2 2025, we played 40 home games and 38 away games. In Q2, total revenue was $312 million, up over 10% from $283 million in Q2 2024. We continue to be very pleased with our revenue growth. As a reminder, the company manages its business based on the following reportable segments: Baseball and Mixed-Use Development. Baseball revenue was $287 million in Q2 2025, up from $266 million in Q2 2024. This revenue increase was driven by a combination of increased event, broadcasting, and other revenues.
Seasonal and is aligned to the baseball season.
During the second quarter of 2025, we played 40 home games and 38 away games.
In the second quarter, total revenue was 312 million up over 10% from 283 million in the second quarter of 2024.
We continue to be very pleased with our Revenue growth.
As a reminder, the company manages its business based on the following reportable segments, baseball and mixed use development.
Baseball Revenue was 287 million in the second quarter of 2025 up from 266 million in the second quarter of 2024.
Jill Robinson: Baseball event revenue increased $9 million during Q2 2025 as compared to the corresponding period in the prior year, primarily due to contractual rate increases on season tickets and existing sponsorship contracts, as well as new premium seating and sponsorship agreements. Offset by attendance-related reductions in concessions revenue. Broadcasting revenue increased to $81 million in Q2 2025 compared to $71 million the prior year, primarily due to the impact of our renegotiated local rights agreement signed at the end of 2024. As a reminder, Q2 represents the first full quarter of broadcast revenue under our new agreement and includes additional streaming rights granted to our regional broadcast partner. Other revenue increased $3 million during Q2 2025 as compared to the corresponding period in the prior year, primarily due to events held at Truist Park, including 1 concert.
This Revenue increase was driven by a combination of increased event broadcasting and other revenues.
Fall event Revenue, increased 9 million during the second quarter of 2025 as compared to the corresponding period in the prior year. Primarily due to contractual rate increases on season tickets and existing sponsorship, contracts as well as new premium seating and sponsorship agreements offset by attendance related. Reductions in concessions, Revenue
Broadcasting Revenue increased to 81 million in the second quarter of 2025 compared to 71 million. The prior year, primarily due to the impact of our renegotiated local rights agreement signed at the end of 2024,
As a reminder, the second quarter represents the First full quarter of broadcast Revenue under our new agreement and includes additional streaming rates, granted to our regional broadcast partner.
Other Revenue, increased 3 million during the second quarter of 2025 as compared to the corresponding period in the prior year.
Jill Robinson: Our mixed-use development revenue was $25 million in Q2 2025, up from $17 million from the same period last year. This was primarily driven by an $8 million increase in rental income and to a lesser extent, sponsorship and parking revenue. Notably, Q2 includes the first full quarter of revenue from our Pennant Park acquisition, which closed on 1 April of this year. We are on track to deliver approximately $20 million in additional net operating income this year due to our acquisition of Pennant Park and the new Truist Securities headquarters. This is in line with previous estimates provided during our Investor Day event. Adjusted OIBDA was $66 million in Q2 2025, up from $46 million from the same period last year.
Primarily due to events held at truist Park, including 1 concert.
Next, our mixed use development Revenue was 25 million in the second quarter of 2025 up from 17 million from the same period last year.
This was primarily driven by an 8 million dollar increase in rental income and to a lesser extent sponsorship and parking Revenue.
Notably the second quarter includes the First full quarter of revenue from our tenant Park acquisition, which closed on April 1st of this year.
We are on track to deliver approximately 20 million in additional net. Operating income this year, due to our acquisition of pennant Park and the new truist Securities headquarters.
This is in line with previous estimates provided during our investor Day event.
Jill Robinson: This improvement was due to an increase in both baseball and mixed-use development revenue, partially offset by an increase in baseball operating costs, including increased revenue share expenses and expenses for events held at Truist Park, and increases in mixed-use development operating expenses and SG&A expenses. Our operating income was $42 million in Q2 2025, up from $25 million in Q2 2024, primarily due to increased revenue. As of 30 June 2025, the company had $96 million of cash and cash equivalents. Nearly all of our cash and cash equivalents are invested in U.S. Treasury securities, other government securities or government-guaranteed funds, AAA-rated money market funds, and other highly rated financial and corporate debt instruments. As of 30 June 2025, our mixed-use borrowings have increased in the quarter to support capital projects.
With OA was 66 million in the second quarter of 2025 up from 46 million, from the same period last year.
This improvement was due to an increase in both baseball and mixed-use development revenue, partially offset by an increase in baseball operating costs, including increased revenue share expenses and expenses for events held at Truist Park, as well as increases in mixed-use development operating expenses and SG&A expenses.
Our operating income was 42 million in the second quarter of 2025 up from 25 million. In the second quarter of 2024, primarily due to increased Revenue,
as of June 30th, 2025 the company had 96 million of cash and cash equivalents
Nearly all of our cash and cash equivalents are invested in US Treasury securities.
Other government securities or government-guaranteed funds, AAA-rated money market funds, and other highly rated financial and corporate debt instruments.
Jill Robinson: We have $275 million of untapped liquidity in the form of two baseball revolvers, which we believe provides us flexibility for the future. With that operator, let's open the line for questions.
As of June 30th, 2025, our mixed juice, borrowings have increased in the quarter to support capital projects.
We have 275 million of untapped liquidity in the form of 2, baseball revolvers, which we believe provides us flexibility for the future.
And with that operator, let's open the line for questions.
Operator: Our first question comes from the line of David Joyce with Seaport Research Partners. Please go ahead.
As a reminder to ask a question simply press star, followed by the number 1 on your telephone keypad. And our first question comes from the line of David, Joyce with Seaport research Partners, please, go ahead.
David Joyce: Thank you. Appreciate your comments on the new FanDuel and Gray TV rights agreement. With some of the Major League Baseball rights coming up in a Disney renegotiation and with industry buzz that MLB could look to do something on a localized rights package, what would the impact be on you and on the current local media rights that you have?
Thank you. Uh, appreciate your comments on the new uh FanDuel and great TV uh, writes agreement. Uh, but with some of the Major League Baseball rights coming up in a Disney renegotiation and with industry Buzz that uh, the MLB could look to do something on a localized rights. Uh, you know, package, what would the impact be on you? And on uh, the current uh local uh media rights that you have. Thanks.
Derek Schiller: Well, David, thank you. We think that our media rights continue to be very valuable, and the current news out there does nothing but enhance the marketplace for sports programming in the future. We are in a very favorable position in the Southeast. MLB's leadership, I think, will drive continued enthusiasm for our product.
well, David, thank you the um
You know, we, we think that our media rights are continued to be very valuable. And, um, the, uh,
Does nothing but uh enhance the marketplace for Sports, Programming in the future.
Um, we are in a very, very favorable position in the Southeast, uh and uh, MLB's leadership. Uh, I think will drive uh, continued enthusiasm for our product.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Barton Crockett with Rosenblatt. Please go ahead.
Barton Crockett: Okay, great. Thanks for taking the question. Yeah, I wanted to ask a little bit more about the media arrangement there, the new local arrangement. You spoke about the streaming being included in the contract for the first time and some constructive kind of thoughts around that. I was just wondering, is there any more detail you could give us in terms of the uptake of subscription streaming that would include the Braves and the overall kind of streaming audience? If you could give us a little bit more detail on that, I'd be kind of curious.
Your next question comes from the line of Barton Crockett with Ros rosenblat, please go ahead.
Okay, great. Thanks for taking the question and, um,
um yeah, I uh wanted to ask a little bit of uh more about the
Barton Crockett: Secondarily, I mean, your business is growing like maybe I've never seen in terms of the figures you've reported, which is great, but is this a situation where this also maybe presents an opportunity to reinvest some of this growth in cash flow into payroll or the team as you look ahead?
The, the media, um, Arrangement there, the, the new local Arrangement, you spoke about the, uh, streaming being included in the contract for the first time and, uh, you know, and some constructive kind of, um, thoughts around that. But I was just wondering, is there any more detail you could give us in terms of the uptake of subscription streaming? Um, that would include the Braves? Uh, and you know, the overall kind of streaming audience. If you could give us a little bit more detail on that, I'd be kind of curious and then secondarily, I mean your business is
Growing uh, like, you know, maybe I've never seen in terms of the figures you've reported um which is great but um is this a situation where, you know, this also maybe presents an opportunity to reinvest some of this growth and cash flow into payroll or the team as you look ahead.
Derek Schiller: Yeah. Hey, Barton. Derek here. I'll answer the first part. Terry might want to expand a little bit on that second part. As it relates to our media deal, just as a reminder, we essentially restructured the agreement, which was already, as Terry indicated, pretty favorable for us. We've got this really large footprint. Our defined television territory is one of the largest in baseball. In taking advantage of that, part of the restructuring allowed us to do two things. One is it opened up the direct-to-consumer streaming opportunities with FanDuel. While we're not going to go into the specifics of the audiences or the subscriptions, that's something that's a FanDuel-reported entity. Those subscriptions, we believe, based upon what FanDuel has indicated publicly, are quite substantial for the Atlanta Braves.
Yep. Uh, hey, Martin Derek here, I'll I'll answer the first part. Terry might want to expand a little bit on that on that second part. So as it relates to our media deal, um, just as a reminder, we, we essentially restructured the agreement, which was already as Terry indicated, pretty favorable for us. It, you know, we've got this really large, uh, footprint are defined television territories, 1 of the largest in, in baseball and so in taking advantage of that, part of the restructuring allowed us to do 2. Things 1 is it opened up the direct to Consumer streaming opportunities with FanDuel and while we're not going to go into the specifics of the audiences or the the subscriptions. That's something that's a FanDuel reported, uh, entity, um, those subscriptions.
Derek Schiller: Essentially, the way that you should look at this is we've opened up, for all intents and purposes, the entirety of that defined television territory by having that streaming audience. We think that's been very robust. FanDuel is very pleased with that. We're very pleased with that. The second piece of that restructure was allowing us to have a certain number of games that we could go out into the marketplace and potentially secure an over-the-air partner, which is exactly what we did with Gray Television. This year, in addition to that direct-to-consumer streaming, as well as the traditional distribution, we now have 15 games that are available to our fans via over-the-air. Gray has been a terrific partner. They've supplemented that with additional ancillary programming, and if you think about those two audiences and looking at the ratings, they're incremental to one another.
Um, we believe based upon what FanDuel has indicated publicly are quite substantial for the Atlanta Braves. And uh, essentially the way that you should look at this is we've opened up for all intents and purposes. The entirety of that defined television territory by having that streaming audience. So we think that's been very robust.
Derek Schiller: They're not cannibalizing each other. For those 15 games, we're seeing even more of an audience get delivered, which really emphasizes the point about how Braves programming is sought after and is something that when we give the opportunities our fans are really clamoring for, we're seeing those audiences delivered for us. Been very good for us. I'll let Terry take the payroll question.
FanDuel is very pleased with that. We're very pleased with that. The second piece of that restructure was allowing us to have a certain number of games that we could go out into um uh the marketplace and potentially secure an over-the-air partner, which is exactly what we did with grey media. And so this year, in addition, to that direct consumer streaming as well as the traditional distribution. We now have 15 games that are available to our fans uh, via over the air. Uh and gray has been a terrific partner. They've supplemented that with additional ancillary programming. And if you think about those 2 audiences and looking at the radian ratings, they're incremental to 1 another, they're not cannibalizing each other. And so for those 15 games, we're seeing, uh, even more of an audience get delivered, which which really emphasizes the point about how Braves programming is sought after. And is something that when we, when we give the opportunities, our fans are really
Terence McGuirk: I think if I could restate, I think the question was, as we have the continuing upward trend of our business, will those $ be reinvested in payroll? Well, I'd start off saying that we have been a top 10 payroll team for some period of time. I see us continuing to maybe move up that ladder. We had dry powder in our arsenal for trade deadline this year for payroll. Our threshold for investment there was basically, that investment either needed to move us towards a playoff position this year or help us dramatically in 2026. Our limited activity during that period sort of reflected the inability of the market to meet those two requirements. We're disappointed with the year. There's some underperformance, but the majority of it is injuries and missing players. Everyone is back for spring training 2026.
Clamoring for we're seeing those audiences delivered for us so um been very good for us. I'll let Terry take the uh payroll question.
So, I think if I could restate, I I think the question was, um, as we have, uh, the continuing upward trend of our business. Um,
Will those dollars be uh reinvested in payroll? And um well I'd start off saying that we we have been a top 10 payroll team for some period of time. Um I see us continuing to maybe move up that ladder um
we're um,
Helped us dramatically in 26.
And um, you know, our our limited uh, activity during that period, sort of reflected.
The inability of the market to meet those 2 requirements. Uh, we, you know, we're disappointed with the year, we, uh, it's, there's some underperformance, but the majority of it is injuries and and missing players.
Terence McGuirk: We expect to have a team that earlier this year, we were a favorite to potentially be in the World Series this year. I think we will line up in that kind of a mode again next spring. We will take a very hard look at the team and at everything that contributes to winning and losing during this off-season. Of course, this is not the time to comment on those things, but we know what our mandate is, and investment in the team is part of that.
Everyone is back for spring training, 26. We expect to have, um, uh, a team that can be, you know, this earlier this year, we were a favorite to, um, uh, potentially be in the World Series this year. I think we will line up in that kind of a mode again, next spring, um, and we will take a very hard look at the team and at everything that contributes to winning and losing during this off season, and, of course, this is not the time to comment on those things. But, um,
We take, we take we know what our mandate is and uh, investment in the team is part of that.
Barton Crockett: Okay.
okay, that's
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Steven Sheeckutz with Citigroup. Please go ahead.
Steven Sheeckutz: Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I know you just closed on the Pennant Park acquisition, but just curious, any updated thoughts on how investors should be thinking about the scope and timing of potential future real estate development opportunities? Thanks.
And your next question comes from the line of Steven, she cuts with City, please go ahead.
Mike Plant: Hey. Good morning, Steven. This is Mike Plant. One of the things we've reminded ourselves is that we've owned this acquisition for a little more than 4 months now. In that period of time, we've invested over $1 million in capital. We've actually met with all of the tenants on several occasions, and I will say that's the first interaction they've had with a landlord in about 2 years. What I think is unique about our acquisition is that they are now part of the Battery and the Atlanta Braves organization. They're starting to understand the value of that and being connected with us, the strength of what this organization can certainly provide to them from a real estate standpoint, and just even an interaction of landlord-tenant relationships. We have about 100,000 sq ft of renewal and new lease activity that is currently in play.
Hi. Thanks for taking my question. Uh, know you just closed on the pennant Park acquisition but just curious any updated, thoughts on how investors should be thinking about the scope and timing of potential future real estate development opportunities. Thanks. Hey. Good morning Stephen. This is Mike plant. We, um, 1 of the things we've reminded ourselves is that we we've owned this acquisition for a little more than 4 months now. But in that period of time, we've invested over a million dollars in capital. We've actually met with all of the tenants on several occasions and and I will say that's, uh, the first interaction. They've had with a landlord in about 2 years. So what what I think is unique about
Mike Plant: We expect to announce some of those in the next couple of months. As I said earlier in my comments, Home Depot, for example, has invested over $1 million in putting a new cafeteria and restaurant in their operation. We think that's a pretty good indication of some long-term opportunities with them for Pennant Park as well. We're really happy where we are in a short period of time, and I believe I could speak for the tenants, they are as well.
Our acquisition is that they are now part of the battery in the Atlanta Braves organization. They've, they've, they're starting to understand the value of that and being connected with us, the strength of what this organization can certainly provide to them from a real estate standpoint and just even an interaction of landlord tenant relationships. We um, we have about 100,000 square feet of of renewal and, and new lease activity that is currently in, in play. Uh, we expect to announce some of those in the next. Uh, next couple of months, as I said in earlier, in my comments Home Depot, for example, is invested over.
Million dollars and putting a new cafeteria and and, um, and restaurant in their operation. We think that's a pretty, a pretty good indication of some long-term opportunities with them for pain, and park as well. So we're really happy where we are in a short period of time, and I believe I could speak for the tenants they are as well.
Operator: With that as the last question in today's queue, I will turn the call back over to Cameron for closing remarks.
And with that is the last question and today is Q. I will turn the call back over to Cameron for closing remarks.
Derek Schiller: Okay. Thank you. It's Derek. On behalf of the organization and all of us that joined here today, thank you very much for participating in today's call. We look forward to closing the season off as strong as we can, and thank you for your participation.
Okay, thank you. It's Derek on behalf of the organization, and all of us are joining here today. Thank you very much for participating in today's call. We look forward to closing the season off as strong as we can, and thank you for your participation.
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