Q2 2025 Sensus Healthcare Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Good day, and welcome to the Census Healthcare second quarter 2025 financial results conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key, followed by zero.
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Speaker #3: Good afternoon. This is Tirth Patel with Alliance Advisors IR. I'd like to start by apologizing for the press release being issued later than usual as there was a system-wide glitch with our wire service.
Speaker #3: But thank you all for joining today's call to discuss Census Healthcare's second quarter 2025 financial results. Joining me from Census are Joe Sardano, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Michael Sardano, President and General Counsel; and Javier Rampolla, Chief Financial Officer.
Speaker #3: As a reminder, some of the matters that we'll be discussed during today's call contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. All statements other than historical facts that address activities Census Healthcare assumes plans, expects, believes, intends, or anticipates and other similar expressions that will, should, or may occur in the future are forward-looking statements.
Speaker #3: The forward-looking statements are management's beliefs based upon currently available information, as of the date of this conference call, August 7th, 2025. Census Healthcare undertakes no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements except as required by law.
Speaker #3: All forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties as described in the company's Forms 10-K, 10-Q, and other SEC filings. During today's call, references will be made to certain non-GAAP financial measures.
Speaker #3: Census believes these measures provide useful information for investors, yet they should not be considered as a substitute for GAAP, nor should they be viewed as a substitute for operating results determined in accordance with GAAP.
Speaker #3: A reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP results is included in today's financial results news release. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Joe Sardano.
Speaker #3: Joe?
Speaker #4: Thank you, Tirth. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. As you can see from the financial results, we're reporting today after a very dynamic start to Q2.
Speaker #4: Our second quarter domestic sales momentum was temporarily stalled by a proposed local coverage determination or LCD that would limit the reimbursement of ultrasound when used with our SRT 100 Vision systems.
Speaker #4: Also, just a few weeks ago, Medicare stepped in with a proposed physician fee schedule that we believe may fundamentally alter demand for our products.
Speaker #4: Let me explain, starting with the LCD. Our SRT 100 Vision combines the treatment power of superficial radiotherapy with image-guided ultrasound to ensure the best possible clinical outcome for patients.
Speaker #4: When treating non-melanoma skin cancer, it's the only way for a physician and patient to establish a treatment plan to visualize the eradication of the lesion from beginning to end.
Speaker #4: LCDs are reimbursement decisions made by a Medicare administrative contractor or MAC, regarding whether a particular medical service is considered reasonable and necessary as such whether it's covered under Medicare within the contractor's geographic jurisdiction.
Speaker #4: The question arose as to the frequency for which the ultrasound features should be used. In mid-May, a proposed LCD to limit reimbursement for the use of ultrasound imaging prior to treating skin cancer was made public.
Speaker #4: It's important to note that in treating other forms cancer, imaging modalities such as MRI, CT, PET, mass spectrometry, or nuclear that use ultrasound or other imaging devices for every fraction of treatment.
Speaker #4: With the SRT 100 Vision, Census innovated and introduced the same approach for treating non-melanoma skin cancer. This proposed LCD came out of nowhere. Up to that point in Q2, we were on track to surpass expectations.
Speaker #4: Yet we found our market at a pause until there's clarification which we expect soon. We are making considerable investments of time and money to lobby CMS with information and facts supporting the value of ultrasound.
Speaker #4: With this initiative, we are in lockstep with our major customer as we work together to help the powers that be understand the importance of high-frequency ultrasound in treating non-melanoma skin cancer.
Speaker #4: To date, we believe that our actions are gaining traction and understanding among those in authority and their influencers. I want be crystal clear that our technology in treating skin cancer with SRT is not in question but rather the frequency for which ultrasound is being used during the treatment protocols is the subject of the LCD.
Speaker #4: On the other hand, just a few weeks ago, Medicare proposed a physician fee schedule that would significantly increase reimbursement for the delivery of a code of SRT.
Speaker #4: Pivoting now to a review of operations, the Census team made meaningful progress during the second quarter. We delivered 19 SRT systems four of which were sold to China.
Speaker #4: These placements speak to growing international demand for non-invasive therapeutic solutions and set the stage for future expansion which Michael will explain momentarily. During Q2, we signed five new FDA contracts and activated four sites.
Speaker #4: Mostly, all in the first half of the quarter. Importantly, FDA treatment volume increased by 27% over Q1. That tells us practices are getting more efficient at patients are becoming more aware of SRT as a preferred treatment option.
Speaker #4: We also broadened our US commercial footprint with the appointment of radiation oncology systems as our primary distribution partner for the hospital-based oncology segment. This new relationship with ROS gives us specialized coverage in radiation oncology departments and freestanding cancer treatment centers.
Speaker #4: Markets that traditionally require a different approach and level of engagement. ROS brings deep expertise and long-standing customer relationships and we believe they'll help accelerate our growth and increase awareness of the clinical advantages of SRT beyond dermatology.
Speaker #4: We expect to see results this year. On the R&D front, our 510K resubmission for the next-generation TDI platform remains under FDA review. We anticipate receiving feedback later this year and in the meantime, we continue preparing for commercial deployment.
Speaker #4: We're also refining training protocols and exploring flexible implementation models to broaden appeal across clinical settings for multiple potential applications. We also took time to elevate awareness of skin cancer and the importance of early detection.
Speaker #4: May was skin cancer awareness month and we collaborated with advocacy organizations and providers nationwide to promote the importance of screening and non-invasive treatment options.
Speaker #4: It's part of our broader effort to position Census not just as a technology leader but as a patient-centric solution provider in the fight against skin cancer.
Speaker #4: With our domestic execution international progress, exciting reimbursement progress, new partnerships, and a regulatory win, Q2 was a productive quarter that we believe further positions Census for success.
Speaker #4: With that, I'll turn the call over to Michael for additional commentary. Thanks.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Joe. During the second quarter, we continued to execute well on our three-pronged strategy: increase patient awareness for SRT, grow internationally, and advance our pipeline.
Speaker #3: The FDA program has proven to be a key strategic asset, aligning our growth. Onboarding, analytics, and customer marketing support. We are working with practices to help them increase awareness in their local markets and streamline patient pathways and maximize throughput.
Speaker #3: On that note, I want to point out that the reason we are able to offer this program is because of our internally developed HIPAA-compliant software platform that we call Sentinel.
Speaker #3: Sentinel enables our physician customers to store data via the cloud and also allows Sensus engineers to remotely diagnose and fix almost any problem that happens with the device.
Speaker #3: On the international front, momentum is building and our future is now greatly supported thanks to the recent MD-SAT certification. MD-SAT stands for Medical Device Single Audit Program, and this regulatory certification marks a key milestone for Census.
Speaker #3: MD-SAT validates the strength of our quality systems and provides us with immediate access to the markets of Brazil, Canada, Japan, and Australia. It also enhances our credibility with partners in regions where regulatory rigor is a prerequisite.
Speaker #3: We are actively working with potential commercial partners that serve those countries and laying the foundation for additional revenue contributions potentially as early as later this year.
Speaker #3: The four systems shipped to China in Q2 represent significant sales growth and are a potential sign of economic strengthening in the territory. Shifting to the domestic market, the proposed Medicare physician fee schedule and the new potential delivery code that Joe mentioned could have a transformative effect on our US commercial strategy.
Speaker #3: Historically, dermatologist billing for superficial radiotherapy has operated under a separate and lower reimbursement structure compared with a hospital, even when delivering superior therapeutic outcomes.
Speaker #3: We believe the new outpatient CPT delivery code, if issued, will improve SRT's positioning and allow physicians who have been on the fence to finally commit to offering their patients the non-surgical choice.
Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn the call over to Javier for a review of our financial performance. Javier?
Speaker #5: Thanks, Michael. Good afternoon, everyone. I will first review our recent financial results and then I will turn to hear today's ults. Revenues for the second quarter of 2025 were 7.3 million compared with 9.2 million for second quarter of 2024.
Speaker #5: The year-over-year decline was primarily due to fewer capital system sales to a large customer partially offset by growth in the recurring revenue from failed deal agreements.
Speaker #5: Gross profit was 2.9 million for the second quarter of 2025 compared with 5.4 million for the prior year quarter. Gross margin was 39.7% versus 58.7% a year ago.
Speaker #5: Primarily driven by lower sales and higher cost of service. General and administrative expense was 2 million for the second quarter of 2025 compared with 1.6 million the second quarter of 2024 reflecting higher professional fees and compensation.
Speaker #5: Selling and marketing expense was 1.4 million for the second quarter of 2025 compared with 1 million the second quarter of 2024. The increase was due to higher trade show expenses.
Speaker #5: Higher costs related to clinical studies and higher payroll costs due to an rease in headcount. Research and development expense was 1.5 million for the second quarter of 2025 compared with 0.9 million for the year prior year quarter.
Speaker #5: Primarily due to costs associated with ongoing product development and readiness for the anticipated TDI commercialization. Net loss for the second quarter of 2025 was 1 million or 6 cents per share compared with net income of 1.6 million or 10 cents per delivered share for the second quarter of 2024.
Speaker #5: Adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter of 2025 was negative $1.8 million, compared to a positive $2.1 million in the same quarter of the previous year, reflecting higher operating expenses and lower revenue.
Speaker #5: Please see the table in news release we issued earlier today for a reconciliation between GAAP to these non-GAAP financial measures. Turning now to our year-to-date financial results.
Speaker #5: Revenues for the first half of 2025 were 15.7 million compared with 19.9 million for the first half of 2024. The decrease was primarily driven by a lower number of units sold to a large customer in the 2025 period.
Speaker #5: Cost of sale was 8.4 million in the first half of 2025 compared with 7.8 million for the first half of 2024. The increase was primarily related to higher cost of service in the 2025 period.
Speaker #5: Gross profit was 7.3 million for the first half of 2025 or 46.5% of revenues compared with 12.1 million or 16.8% of revenues for the first half of 2024.
Speaker #5: The decrease was primarily driven by sales and higher cost of service in the 2025 period. General and administrative expense was 4.2 million for the first half of 2025 compared with 3.2 million for the first half of 2024.
Speaker #5: The increase was primarily due to higher professional fees and compensation. Selling and marketing expense was 3.6 million for the first half of 2025 compared with 2.3 million for the first half of 2024.
Speaker #5: The increase was primarily due to higher trade show expenses cost related to clinical studies and payroll costs due to an increase in headcount. Research and development expense was 4.1 million for the first half of 2025 compared with 1.8 million for the first half of 2024.
Speaker #5: The increase was primarily due to significant lobbying costs related to the billing code reimbursement, increased headcount, existing product development costs. Other income of 0.4 million for the first half of 2025 and 2024 relates primarily to interest income.
Speaker #5: Regarding our CAC position, our balance sheet remains strong as we ended the quarter with 22.2 million in cash and no debt. As a final topic, with the potential increase in reimbursement through the issuing of a new SRT delivery code, we remain very excited about our long-term revenue trajectory and the new market opportunities we face as both Joe and Michael described.
Speaker #5: I will now turn the call back to Joe for closing remarks.
Speaker #4: Thank you, Javier. Thank ou, Michael. Census is well-positioned and we have a capable staff ready to capitalize on these opportunities. I extend thanks to our team for their continued dedication to our customers for their partnership.
Speaker #4: Operator, we're now ready to open the line for questions.
Speaker #1: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your touchstone phone. If ou're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys.
Speaker #1: If at any time your question has been addressed and ou'd like to withdraw your estion, please press star, then two. Our first question will come from Benjamin Hayner with Lake Street, Capitol.
Speaker #1: Please go head.
Speaker #6: Good afternoon, gentlemen. Thanks for taking my questions.
Speaker #1: Yes, sir. Ben, how are you?
Speaker #6: You know, not too bad. on the, proposed CMS, reimbursement under the physician fee schedule for next year, it does look like the radiation delivery code tripled in the, the imaging code associated with the image guidance, for SRT.
Speaker #6: came down a bit. Is that, is there any kind of connection there with the, the LCD and, and, you know, how CMS sees the utilization under the new codes versus how they're currently billed under the, with the G code for image guidance?
Speaker #1: Yeah, let me let Michael answer that. since, we're heavily involved with, a lot of the lobbying at, CMS and so on, so keep in mind that their original letter that came out under the LCD was strictly for the utilization of ultrasound or limiting the utilization of ultrasound because they felt utilizing it for every fraction was too much.
Speaker #1: They felt that it eded to be used, more sparingly. Quite frankly, in the protocols that we use, they are used more sparingly. So Michael, if you want to take that one.
Speaker #3: Yeah, sure. Hey, Ben, how are you? Great. so the LCD and the proposed physician fee schedule are actually two separate items. So the LCD came out first.
Speaker #3: and, was a little more bleak than the proposed physician fee schedule. So, the LCD, we don't believe will actually take place. We don't believe that it's going to come through.
Speaker #3: due to our lobbying efforts and a few other entities out there lobbying. and it was going after only the ultrasound portion, like Joe just said.
Speaker #3: it was flagged for overutilization. On the proposed physician fee schedule, ever, the proposal is actually--and I've been with Census for close to 15 years since the beginning, and we've been lobbying in general for SRT because we're the company that brought SRT back.
Speaker #3: and so this is something that on the delivery code side of things that 've been asking for, for literally the entire time. Which is, when we started the company, it was about five times more to, to have a hospital bill SRT than it was an outpatient facility, whether that's derm or radiation oncologist.
Speaker #3: Any outpatient facility got a fifth of what a hospital got. Based on just built-in fixed costs, essentially, technical components is what they call it in CMS.
Speaker #3: So what they're doing now is they're actually evening it out. they're bundling a lot of different technical components into SRT in general, and they're ing to, no matter what, if you're in a hospital or in an outpatient facility because they realize now that the vast majority of the close to 1,000 units that we've sold now over the last 15 years are in outpatient facilities, not in hospitals.
Speaker #3: So with that being said, they realized that they needed to even it out. So we're very, very thrilled to see that the proposal would actually make it, like ou just said, about a 300-plus percent increase in the delivery code for SRT.
Speaker #3: Which would be, pretty amazing.
Speaker #6: Okay. So you, you guys are, are pleased with the, the proposed rates. I mean, viously, you'd be more pleased if they were higher as, as would anyone.
Speaker #6: and then just on the, the, on the LCD, you ow, kind of the, I know, I know you think it probably doesn't end up going through, but did that impact, you know, kind of interest on the FDA side?
Speaker #6: Did it, did it impact treatment volumes, anything of that nature when that did come out, you know, everyone kind of puckers, I imagine?
Speaker #3: Yeah, everyone kind of just, what happened is it just a pause because there was, there was no clear path right, right there as far as whether it was going to happen or not.
Speaker #3: And the thing is when, what, what we've learned over the last two, three months since it's come out because of our lobbying, and efforts there, is that the ultrasound, you know, the, the people that were attacking the ultrasound are not people that actually use SRT, correct?
Speaker #3: It's just a term for it. and what's happening is we have studies out there that show that ultrasound, IGSRT, does improve statistically the cure rate for non-melanoma skin cancer.
Speaker #3: And so, we fully believe that IGSRT and SRT are here to stay, and ultrasound will continue to be part of the SRT portfolio of products.
Speaker #6: Okay. Got it. And then, then, just looking for an update, I, I think, you're, you're getting close to 1,000, capital sales out there. Is that still kind of on track for, you know, about a year from now, up from the 900-ish that you're at now?
Speaker #1: I, I think the way we're going right now, and the way Michael described what possibly can happen, which is one of two things, I think it'll accelerate the installation of our units over the next several months.
Speaker #1: Once everything is cleared, it's very, very clear that there's one of two things that will happen. One is that everything will remain the same, or status quo, which is what we would like to see.
Speaker #1: it is what our, our biggest partner would like to see. But if the second thing happens based on the recommendations of CMS and the reimbursement, schedule, which you've adequately described at a 300% increase, it also bodes well for the technology moving ahead as well.
Speaker #1: And the doctors that are going to get the reimbursement. So we don't see any downside, but we would prefer that we move along the same lines with the status quo, which we think, based on our lobbying efforts and the information that we've had over the last two to three weeks, that we're getting closer to that kind of a decision, although it might be another, you know, sometime in the fourth quarter before we understand what that decision is.
Speaker #1: CMS will take their time on this.
Speaker #6: Okay. Sure enough. That's all I had. Thank you very much, gentlemen.
Speaker #1: Thank you.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Ben. Take care.
Speaker #1: Our next question will come from Anthony Vendetti with Maxim Group. Please go head.
Speaker #7: Thanks. Good afternoon, everyone.
Speaker #3: Anthony.
Speaker #7: Hey. Hey, Mike. Hey, Joe. so I, I, I ink the, you ow, obviously, hopefully, the, like you said, the local coverage determination, won't go into effect.
Speaker #7: but in the meantime, I think you mentioned that, that a large customer, large customers pause purchases. Is that your largest customer? And, once this reimbursement issue is clarified, have they indicated, "Hey, we just need clarification, and we're ing to move ward"?
Speaker #7: where, where does that stand as, as we speak right ?
Speaker #1: Yeah. The, the answer to that, Anthony, is absolutely yes. you ow, customers, anytime something goes up in the air that causes, a question mark, there's always a pause, okay?
Speaker #1: We've had pause through COVID. We've had pause through other reimbursement issues. We've had pauses through a bunch of other things. And anytime, anything in healthcare is unclear, everybody waits to wait, you know, until they have the final verdict as to what's ing on.
Speaker #1: our customers committed to IGSRT from Census Healthcare. I don't think that there's any other way about it. And I think that if and when this becomes clear that the status quo remains, I think our customers, their customers are going to rapidly want to revamp everything.
Speaker #1: I don't think anybody's losing interest in IGSRT. I think it continues to remain a hot priority all of these customers. all of the doctors that want to put it in their practice.
Speaker #1: And I think that we're not going to be losing any customers, but we're going to be scrambling like hell to get deliveries out before the end of the year.
Speaker #1: And, this is all going to be resolved before the end of the year.
Speaker #6: Okay. But, yeah, and, and yeah, obviously, we all know the fourth quarter is always a large quarter in the aesthetic industry, and December particularly.
Speaker #6: try to et, like you said, try to get those purchases in before the year ends for tax reasons and everything else. but, you know, we're, we're in, you know, almost the middle of the third quarter.
Speaker #1: Yeah.
Speaker #6: So it
Speaker #6: seems like you know this could have a, you know, pretty outsized or significant impact in sales for the quarter-ending September 30th, rect?
Speaker #1: It, it could, it could happen, yes. It could happen. Unless, of course, the, you know, the CMS lets us know early. I mean, there's no timeline as to when they're going to tell us, but hopefully earlier the better.
Speaker #1: But I, I can't predict when they're going to something. But they have to say something soon.
Speaker #6: Okay. Okay. And, and, and so can, can some that be offset by through China? I know you, you delivered four to China. This core, you know, in the second quarter, you know, those, those purchases are typically variable.
Speaker #6: if you delivered four in the second quarter, is there, is there a possibility you could deliver, more to China this quarter, or is that unlikely in this quarter?
Speaker #1: I, I would say this, that, because of MD-SAT, which is the license to sell all of the SRT technologies, not just the SRT 100, which is what we had before with the EU and with China, but with MD-SAT, it allows us to sell all of our products, including the vision product, to a whole lot more countries than we had before, including Japan and India, Brazil, those things would have cost an awful lot of money for us and probably would have happened in another two years.
Speaker #1: And, and again, Michael was, the one who instigated that along with our quality and regulatory people. And so we've been working on something, we've been working on MD-SAT for the last 24 months and it came to fruition where we met all of the requirements and went through all of the audits very quickly and got the approval.
Speaker #1: So I would tell you that I think that China will continue order, but we're looking forward to other orders from other parts of the world.
Speaker #6: Okay. Great. And then, and then I ess lastly, just to get back to the reimbursement issue, you have the LCD and then you have the proposed physician fee schedule.
Speaker #6: Let’s say I know you've been involved in some lobbying, and Michael's been involved in the lobbying for the LCD. But let’s say that that comes back and it is, you know, significantly reduced.
Speaker #6: Reimbursement there. What is your, what's your path forward? Can, can, can you appeal it or is this like the time period where, you know, you can do it or once it's made, it's, it's, it's up to reverse?
Speaker #1: Yeah, Anthony. Anthony, let me let Michael answer, but let me just reiterate. This is strictly focused on ultrasound. This is focused
Speaker #6: Ultrasound.
Speaker #1: on, on one code, not all the codes. It's strictly focused on the ultrasound code. And they just felt they're trying say that it was used too much; you don't ed to use it every fraction.
Speaker #1: And they're ying , say that, okay? We're trying to go the other way by saying you know, you use MRI, you use CT scanners, you use all this other stuff for every other every other every fraction that ou use to treat lung cancer, breast cancer, prostate cancer, all of those things are used on every fraction.
Speaker #1: Why you? Why do you think it needs to be less useful for skin cancer? It's the only device that's able to start and show a treatment plan at the beginning, which is extremely important.
Speaker #1: And even when you do surgery, if the patient says, "Show me that you got everything, that you got the entire lesion." The doctor says, "Yeah, I got it.
Speaker #1: I tell you I got it all." There's nothing that's visible that shows the patient except if you use an ultrasound that's on the vision product.
Speaker #1: That's the only product that's able to show the patient, "Look, it's gone. Here it was at the beginning. Here's your treatments. It's gone now." Nothing else exists.
Speaker #1: Go ahead, Michael.
Speaker #3: I an, yeah. Yeah, no, I hear you. I just, yeah, Michael.
Speaker #7: Yeah. To really, to reiterate what Joe is saying, on the LCD side of things, it really only about parameters of the usage ultrasound. like Joe said.
Speaker #7: And the thing is for them, and it was a single organization. I'm not going to name names. That decided to try to fight against it.
Speaker #7: And they have absolutely no evidence to support their claim that it doesn't help. Where in fact, we, the, you know, SRT stakeholders, amongst two other two or three other entities, have tremendous evidence showing that image guidance on SRT is actually tremendously helpful, both from a clinical study standpoint, including a clinical study that was done at NIH that they published.
Speaker #7: So you can see it, at NIH, which I don't, you ow, there's no, there's no real entity that's better than NIH for showing clinical studies.
Speaker #7: So we have overwhelming evidence that's going to push that back on the LCD side of things. And then, flipping it over to the Medicare side of things, the proposed physician fee schedule, what their, what their issuing here is a proposal to increase the delivery code of SRT.
Speaker #7: 100 Vision, the SRT Plus, or the base SRT 100. So it would help both the vision, which has ultrasound, and the SRT 100 that does not have ultrasound.
Speaker #7: So that's what's being proposed here. and I think that it's something that we've been asking for since before we even invented IGSRT, which is, which was pretty cool.
Speaker #7: Does that make sense?
Speaker #6: Yeah, no, it makes a lot of sense. And I mean, I mean, as, as, as we all know, skin cancer is the number one cancer.
Speaker #6: And we all know whether you surgically try to remove it or whether you use SRT, you have to make sure you get the entire parameter whether that's vertically deep or horizontal out.
Speaker #6: to make sure you're lear those margins and you would think imaging that to ensure that is something that should be standard practice. So it is, it is a ittle bit shocking, but opefully, the, the, the proper hope for the ue we get.
Speaker #1: Absolutely. One of the things, Anthony, to that point, Anthony, we've got a new administration. And they're oking at everything. So we know that our, our, our health and human services is looking at everything that they possibly can.
Speaker #1: To try to reduce costs, make re that there's no fraud and abuse in anything. And so they're very, very particular. So it's our job now, unfortunately, or fortunately, to have to go through the lobbying efforts to help them better understand this new administration, what's going on.
Speaker #1: Think of it, there was no letter, there was nothing for the last five years. And all of a sudden, an entity comes up with a letter and they are not even a stakeholder in this.
Speaker #1: They have no say in any of this, but they came up with a letter because they're thinking that this is being used too much or whatever.
Speaker #1: Well, you know, we're going to prove that it's not being used too much, that it's a help to patient, and it's a help to the outcomes for patient.
Speaker #1: So as we educate them, this new administration, I think that they're gaining understanding. It seems that H, you know, they recognize that when we talk to them each and every time.
Speaker #1: And they're open to the discussions. It's not like they're closed. They're, they're almost like this letter came in and now they got to address it.
Speaker #1: They want to do the right thing. So we're presenting the other side of the story, but it was really nothing as far as evidence from the other side that decided to, to make a beef about it.
Speaker #1: They don't any proof that, that it doesn't work. It works and we're showing them that it does.
Speaker #6: Okay. Great. I'll hop back into Q. Thanks. Thanks, guys. Appreciate .
Speaker #1: Good. Thanks, Anthony. Any questions? Again, if you have a question, please press star, then one. Our next question will come from Yi Chen with HC Wainwright and Co.
Speaker #1: Please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Hi, this is Eduardo on for Yi. kind of a interesting whirlwind with this LCD and the schedule change. Maybe, have some details on, the ROS distribution efforts and when ou expect that to mature and impact sales, and yeah, just get some details there and then I have a follow-up on the smaller conferences you guys are planning on attending and any success with that.
Speaker #1: Okay. I'll, I'll give you an opening statement on this. And again, I'll pass it on to Michael, but, we've had a relationship with ROS and the leadership there for, I would say, 10, 15 years.
Speaker #1: Very, very highly respected organization within the radiation oncology world. they have strategic relationships throughout oncology. And they've able to provide equipment and services to radiation oncology, I would say, for last 20, 25 years.
Speaker #1: So we've been kind of friends and wanting to work together for the last several years. COVID probably got in the middle of a lot of things and, you ow, you had to do a lot of resets, both them as well as us post-COVID.
Speaker #1: But that relationship is very, very strong and we finally got together, put together an agreement, and we're anxious for the results from my standpoint.
Speaker #1: I think that we're going to see results before the end of the year and I'll pass it on to Michael since he's had the last conversation with the whole organization.
Speaker #1: But their leadership is phenomenal and their infrastructure is great.
Speaker #3: Yeah, we continue to have meetings with them. They're getting ramped up very quickly. They've been around for about 20 years. They have excellent relationships with hospitals.
Speaker #3: And so we're very cited to partner with them. Their ole organization. They even have an international front as well, which we may expand into.
Speaker #3: They have some expertise. I told them about our MD-SAT and they were extremely excited. So I think that they can put us in touch with really, really high-end distributors that do the same thing that they do here domestically internationally in certain territories.
Speaker #8: That's really helpful. And on that note of the MD-SAT certification and expanding into international markets, do you have a timeline? Obviously, the connection through Ross is going to be hopefully really beneficial.
Speaker #8: Do you have a timeline for when you ect those relationships or kind of agreements to materialize and formalize?
Speaker #3: Yeah, absolutely. So some of them are going to be immediate. For instance, I'm actually traveling to Japan and Taiwan at the end of this month.
Speaker #3: So there's a Japanese-Taiwanese co-radiation meeting that's happening at the end of August. And I'll be going with our VP of International Affairs and meeting with the Japanese radiation regulatory committee.
Speaker #3: As well as the Taiwanese. And we already have an SRT 100 Vision that was sold last year if you remember to Taiwan. So the ribbon cutting will be the official ribbon cutting will be sometime soon.
Speaker #3: We're very excited about that. Although they've been treating patients for over a year now. So I think that this is going to roll pretty quickly, especially in Asia.
Speaker #3: Because of the China presence that 've had for the last 10 years. And it just boils over to that. And then South America, I think, will be shortly after.
Speaker #3: And as Joe mentioned, this greatly helps us in India as well. And just gives us a backbone that we never had before in international.
Speaker #3: So we're pretty cited.
Speaker #8: Yeah, really citing. Especially, you know, the current uncertainty with domestic I guess it's the final one. Do you see, I know obviously maybe it might be hard to tell with kind of the general pause given the LCD and that uncertainty there.
Speaker #8: But do you feel there's any macro-level softness in capital equipment spending in dermatology or oncology? Or do you ink this pause is just kind specific to some of the immediate uncertainties?
Speaker #3: No, I don't think so. I think it's just immediate for SRT. And if you remember that the new administration just increased the Section 179 spending limit for to a million dollars from 500,000.
Speaker #3: So that's going to be a pful. And Joe, I think you were trying say something as well.
Speaker #1: Yeah, you ow, I think that either way, I think that our FDA agreement is still going to be continuing to grow as Javier announced.
Speaker #1: We had a 27% increase in utilization of patients being processed with our FDA program over Q1. We feel that Q3 is going to, you know, show the same results if not greater.
Speaker #1: So it continues to evolve. And whether it's one program or the other, and again, our preference is to remain status quo. We think that this is going to grow and leaps and bounds.
Speaker #1: And I think that once the government makes the decision as to which way they're going to go, preferably, again, the status quo, I ink that gives clear sight for everybody in the marketplace that this is the way to go.
Speaker #1: And the FDA, I think, is going prosper and I think it's going to accelerate.
Speaker #8: Got it. That's all really pful. Thanks for taking the question.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Eduardo.
Speaker #1: With no further our question and answer session. I would over to Joe Sardano for any closing remarks.
Speaker #7: Okay. Well, as we wrap up today's call, I want to thank you all for your continued interest in Census Healthcare. We look forward to speaking to you again in about three months.
Speaker #7: Have a od one, everybody. Thank you. Operator.