Q2 2025 Douglas Dynamics Inc Earnings Call

Drew: Good morning and welcome to the Douglas Dynamics second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing star, then zero on your telephone keypad. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Nathan Elwell, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Good morning and welcome to the Douglas Dynamics second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing star, then zero on your telephone keypad. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then 1 on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, please press star, then 2. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Nathan Elwell, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Nathan Elwell: Thank you, Drew. Welcome, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's call. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that some of the comments that will be made during this conference call, including answers to your questions, will constitute forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are subject to risks that could cause our actual results to be materially different. Those risks include, among others, matters that we have described in yesterday's press release and in our filings with the SEC. Please note we have published a one-page factsheet on our IR website that summarizes our results for the quarter. Joining me on the call today is Mark Vengendren, President and CEO, and Sarah Lauber, Executive Vice President and CFO. Mark will provide an overview of our performance, followed by Sarah reviewing our financial results and guidance. After that, we'll open the call for questions.

Thank you, drew.

Welcome everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's call.

Before we begin, I would like to remind you that some of the comments that will be made during this conference, call including answers to your questions, will constitute forward-looking statements.

These forward-looking statements are subject to risks that could cause our actual results to be materially different.

those risks include among others matters that we have described in yesterday's press release and in our filings with the SEC,

These notes, we have published a, 1-page fact, sheet on our IR, website that summarizes, our results for the quarter.

Joining me on the call today is Mark Van genderen president and CEO and Sarah lava Executive Vice President and CFO.

Mark will provide an overview of our performance, followed by Sarah reviewing our financial results and guidance.

After that, we'll open the call for questions.

Nathan Elwell: With that, I'll hand the call over to Mark. Please go ahead.

Mark Van Genderen: Thanks, Nathan, and welcome, everyone. I'm pleased to say it was another good quarter for our company, with both segments executing well and a continuation of recent trends. Overall, our results were comparable to the same period last year. Solutions delivered another record quarter, the fifth in a row, and with an impressive profit increase. Preseason demand and shipments at attachment were generally in line with our expectations. When combined, this has allowed us to narrow and increase our guidance ranges for the year. Sarah will speak to that later. Our business is running at a high level of efficiency and effectiveness right now, and it's great to see the strong engagement of our teams. Let me run through our performance in each segment, starting with work truck attachments.

With that, I'll hand the call over to Mark. Please go ahead.

And, and welcome everyone.

I'm pleased to say it was

with both.

Doing well and a continuation of recent trends.

Our results were comparable to the same period last year.

Solutions delivered another record quarter, the fifth in a row, with an impressive profit increase.

Preseason demand and shipments at attachment were generally in line with our expectations.

When combined, this has allowed us to narrow and increase our guidance ranges for the year. Sarah Lauber will speak to that later.

Our business is running at a high level of efficiency and Effectiveness right now, and it's great to see the strong engagement of our teams.

Let me run through our performance in each segment. Starting with work truck.

Mark Van Genderen: Snowfall last year was about 10% below the longer-term average, but compared to the previous two winters, ice events were well above average. This weather, coupled with dealer inventories moving in the right direction, positioned us well as we proactively addressed the elongated equipment replacement cycle. More specifically, the ratio of preseason shipments in 2025 is expected to be closer to the more traditional 55% to 45% split between the second and third quarters. Last year, in 2024, we shipped 65% of preseason in Q2 and 35% in Q3. This was unique, as higher finished goods inventory at the end of Q1 last year drove a stronger shipment mix in Q2. As we've noted, company-owned attachment inventories this year have decreased significantly compared to last year.

Attachments.

Last year was about.

The longer term average but up compared to the previous 2 Winters.

Ice events were well above average.

This weather coupled with deal dealer inventories, moving in the right direction.

Position as well as we proactively address the elongated equipment replacement cycle.

More specifically the ratio of pre-season shipments in 2022.

Split between the second and third quarters.

Last year, in 2024, we shipped 65% of pre-season in Q2 and 35% in Q3.

This was unique as higher finished. Goods inventory. At the end of q1 last year, drove a stronger shipment mix in Q2.

As we've noted company-owned attachment inventories, this year has decreased significantly compared to last year.

Mark Van Genderen: We're also seeing dealer inventories coming back in line with expectations after a couple of years of being elevated, which, assuming we receive a normal amount of cooperation from Mother Nature, bodes well for us this winter. We will be paying careful attention to reorder activity in the back half of the year and weather trends in the fourth quarter. Finally, I'm pleased to say that dealer sentiment and financial health both remain positive. Clearly, the segment has adapted and adjusted to the unique weather patterns of the past several years. This is what we are good at. Production plans are logical, inventories are in good shape, and we are playing off of our front foot operationally. To summarize, we are well positioned to respond to Mother Nature this coming winter. Turning to work truck solutions, the team exceeded expectations and, in doing so, delivered their fifth consecutive record performance.

We are also seeing dealer inventories coming back in line with expectations after a couple of years of being elevated. Assuming we receive a normal amount of cooperation from Mother Nature, this will bode well for us this winter.

We will be paying careful attention to reorder activity and the back half of the year. And whether Trends in the fourth quarter,

Finally, I'm pleased to say that dealer sentiment and Financial Health, both remain positive.

Clearly, the segment has adapted and adjusted to the unique weather patterns of the past several years. This is what we are good at.

Production plans are logical inventories are in good shape and we are playing off of our front foot operationally.

To summarize, we are well positioned to respond to Mother Nature. This coming winter.

Mark Van Genderen: This is even more impressive now that the comps are tougher compared to a record quarter last year. We remain encouraged by the progress that's been made in recent years and the strength of our backlog, which is being driven by robust municipal demand. Our municipal business continues to grow thanks to our investments and optimization efforts in recent years, plus our strong competitive position in a dynamic market. In our commercial business, we are seeing softer order patterns at the local dealer level due to overall economic and competitive pressures. Dealers have a fair amount of inventory on the ground, and when you add higher interest rates compared to the last several years and cautious consumer sentiment in general, smaller customers are more price-conscious and hesitant. The commercial fleet business, however, remains generally positive and seems less impacted by these near-term issues.

Doing so delivered. Their fifth consecutive record performance.

This is even more impressive. Now that the comps are tougher compared to a record quarter last year.

We remain encouraged.

Progress that's been made in recent years and the strength of our backlog, which is being driven by robust Municipal demand.

Our Municipal business continues to grow, thanks to Warren Investments and optimization efforts in recent years, plus our strong competitive position in a dynamic Market.

In our Commercial Business, we are seeing softer order patterns at the local dealer level due to overall economic and competitive pressures.

Dealers have a fair amount of inventory on the ground. And when you add higher interest rates compared to the last several years, and cautious consumer sentiment and general smaller, clusters customers are more price conscious and has a chance.

Mark Van Genderen: Finally, the backlog in solutions is still very strong. The mix between commercial and municipal backlog shifts over time, and municipal customers make up the lion's share right now. We are booking production dates well into 2026 and are adding approximately 10% of additional municipal capacity, which we expect will come online next year. So, overall, continued strong performance in the solution segment. Before we go any further, let me take a moment to reiterate our position on tariffs and their potential impact on our performance. First and foremost, we are a US-focused company. Our operations, supply base, and sales are all primarily domestic. We have increased our annual guidance, and that includes a logical assessment of the impact of tariffs this year. As we look further out, we will continue following the evolving situation and analyze to what extent the proposed tariffs would impact our business.

However, remains generally positive and seems less impacted by these near-term issues.

Finally, the backlog in Solutions is still very strong.

The mix between commercial and Municipal backlog shifts over time and Municipal customers, make up the Lion Share right now.

We are booking production dates. Well, into 2026 and are adding approximately 10% of additional Municipal capacity, which we expect will come online next year.

So overall continued strong performance in the solution segment.

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Performance.

First and foremost we are a US focused company. Our operations Supply base and sales are all primarily domestic.

We have increased our annual guidance and that includes a logical assessment of the impact of tariffs this year.

Mark Van Genderen: Our global sourcing team is a real advantage in times like this, and we are well versed in moving quickly to adapt to changes. We know we're in good hands with that team and stand ready to manage through additional tariffs and trade rule changes. Okay, I'd like to take a step back and touch on the three priorities we've been formalizing internally, and we've really been focusing much of our time on this year, namely optimize, expand, and activate. We have three great businesses that are already operating efficiently, but we know there is always more that can be done. So, our first priority is to optimize our current operations. Now, of course, this isn't a new concept at Douglas Dynamics. It's part of our DNA.

As we look further out, we will continue following the evolving situation and analyze to what extent the proposed, tariffs would impact our business. Our Global sourcing team is a real advantage in times like this. And we are well-versed in moving quickly to adapt to changes.

We know we're in good hands with that team and stand. Ready to manage through additional tariffs and trade rule changes.

Okay, I'd like to take a step back and touch on the 3 Priority and formalizing internally, and we've really been focusing.

Here.

3, great businesses that are already operating, but we know there is always more that can be done.

So, our first priority is to optimize our current operations.

Mark Van Genderen: But it makes sense to step back and, with the newly formed leadership team, ensure that we are fully focusing our efforts across the organization. One of the best examples of our optimized initiative is our long-term project to create centers of excellence within the attachment segments. In the past, our three facilities in Milwaukee, Madison Heights, Michigan, and Rockland, Maine operated as they had historically, generally centered around our three brands. Over the past several years, our manufacturing team has initiated the monumental project of moving specific product production to individual facilities, thereby creating centers of excellence that focus on specific aspects of our manufacturing. A good example of this is our Madison Heights, Michigan facility that manufactures all of our hoppers and spreaders, regardless of brand. We can focus all of our engineering, supply chain, and manufacturing expertise across all three brands in that one facility.

To concept at Douglas Dynamics, it's part of our DNA.

But it makes sense to step back and with a newly formed leadership team ensure that we are fully focusing, our efforts across the organization.

1 of the best examples of our optimized initiative, is our long-term project to create centers of excellence within the attachment segments.

Generally centered around our 3 Brands, over the past several years. Our manufacturing team has initiated the Monumental project of moving specific product production to individual facilities. Thereby, creating centers of excellence that focus on specific aspects of our Manufacturing.

A good example of this is our Madison Heights, Michigan, facility. At manufacturers all of our Hoppers and spreaders regardless of brand.

We can focus all of our Engineering Supply Chain and Manufacturing expertise across all 3 brands. In that 1.

Mark Van Genderen: So, optimize is the first pillar. The second is expand, pursuing organic geographic growth opportunities and product offerings to exceed customer expectations. Earlier, I mentioned a great example of geographic expansion in solutions. Lead times across the municipal segment are getting longer, and we believe our ability to deliver trucks on time is an important differentiator. This is one of the reasons we recently broke ground on a new multipurpose facility leased in Columbia, Missouri, to better serve the surrounding markets with new upfits and to service existing in-market municipal trucks. At attachments, our engineering team is world-class. We consistently strive to develop the next-generation upgrades of our existing products, and we also work to broaden our product offering.

So if optimizes the first pillar, the second is expand.

Pursuing organic Geographic growth opportunities, and product offerings to exceed customer expectations.

Earlier, I mentioned a great example of geographic expansion and solutions.

Lead times across the municipal. Segments are getting stronger and we believe our ability to deliver trucks. On time is an important differentiator,

This is 1 of the reasons. We recently broke ground on a new multi-purpose facility least in Columbia Missouri to better serve the surrounding markets with new updates and to service existing in Market Municipal trucks

Add attachments our engineer, our engineering team is world class.

Mark Van Genderen: Recently, we launched a new piece of tech, an auto speed controller for hopper spreaders, at the annual Snow and Ice Management Association Conference, and it's being well received within the industry. This controller is located in the vehicle cab and easily links directly to the truck's CPU. This allows it to automatically adjust the flow of deicing material as the vehicle speed changes, improving efficiency, reducing wasted deicing material, allowing for better monitoring, and giving the contractor one less thing to think about as they work. What's more, this technology is retroactively compatible with Douglas Dynamic truck hoppers across our Western, Fisher, and SnowX brands going back almost 10 years. We are also exploring new areas of snow and ice control in collaboration with partners. We can't talk about that at the moment, but we plan to have more to say in 2026.

We consistently strive to develop the next generation upgrades of our existing products. We also work to broaden our product offering.

Recently, we launched a new piece of tech and auto speed controller for Hopper spreaders at the annual snow and ice Management Association conference. And it's being well received within the industry.

This controller is located in the vehicle Tab and easily links directly to the truck CPU. This allows it to automatically adjust the flow of deicing material. As the vehicle speed changes, improving efficiency. Reducing wasted, deicing material allowing for better monitoring and giving the contractor 1 less thing to think about as they work.

What's more? This technology is retroactively compatible with, Douglas Dynamic truck. Hoppers across our Western Fisher and snowex Brands going back. Almost 10 years.

We are also exploring new areas of snow and ice control and collaboration with Partners. We can't talk about that at the moment, but we plan to have more to say in 2026.

Mark Van Genderen: And finally, activate, which refers to the restart of our M&A efforts as we look for the opportunities to build our portfolio of attachments and diversify our overall offering over the long term. As I mentioned last quarter, with the recent improvements in our performance and balance sheet and a clear vision of the types of acquisitions we are best suited to make operationally, we can now consider small to medium-sized deals if and when we find the right opportunity. Ideally, these opportunities would be in the work vehicle attachment space, have strong brands and growth potential, as well as being a good cultural fit. We have started to conduct more research and investigate companies while still maintaining our disciplined approach. There will be more to come on our strategic pillars in the coming quarters. To conclude, this was another quarter characterized by strong execution, ongoing dedication, and market-leading innovation.

And finally activate with refers to the restart of our m&a. Efforts, as we look for the opportunities to build our portfolio of attachments, and diversify our overall offering over the long term.

As I mentioned, last quarter with the recent improvements in our performance and balance sheet, and a Clear Vision of the types of Acquisitions. We are best suited to make operationally. We can now consider small to medium-sized deals, if and when we find the right opportunity,

Ideally these opportunities would be in the work vehicle. Attachment space has strong Brands and growth potential as well as being a good cultural fit.

We have started to conduct more research and investigate companies while still maintaining our disciplined approach.

There will be more to come on our strategic pillars in the coming quarters.

Mark Van Genderen: I would categorize our general outlook as remaining positive, but with caution, looking around the corners as to what might be coming our way. Inside our company, we firmly believe we have the right people in place and operations that are correctly aligned with the current market conditions. In work truck attachments, we are operating efficiently and we are correctly sized to work through the elongated replacement cycle, ready to use our agility to handle whatever weather conditions we see later this year. In work truck solutions, while seeing softness in our commercial dealer business, we continue to see a positive fleet business and substantial demand and backlog in our municipal business. And the alignment of our future strategy around the optimize, expand, and activate areas of focus reinforces our confidence that we can achieve our longer-term growth and profitability goals in the years ahead.

To conclude, this was another quarter characterized by strong execution, ongoing dedication and Market leading innovation.

I would categorize our general Outlook as remaining positive, but with caution looking around the corners as to what might be coming. Our way.

Inside our company. We firmly believe. We have the right people in place.

And operations that are correctly aligned with the current market conditions.

And work truck attachments. We are operating efficiently and we are correctly sized to work through the elongated replacement cycle.

I need to use our agility to handle whatever weather conditions we see later this year.

And work truck Solutions will seeing softness in our commercial dealer business. Continue to see a positive Fleet business and substantial demand and backlog in our Municipal business.

Mark Van Genderen: Thank you to everyone at Douglas Dynamics for your commitment and drive to exceed. I fully believe that the future presents many exciting opportunities for us to grow and achieve our considerable potential. With that, I'd like to pass the call to Sarah.

And the alignment of our future strategy around the optimized expand and activate areas of focus. Reinforces our confidence that we can achieve our longer term growth and profitability goals in the years ahead.

Thank you to everyone at Douglas, Dynamics for your commitment and drive to exceed.

I fully believe that future the future presents many exciting opportunities for us to grow.

Potential.

Sarah Lauber: Thanks, Mark. I will walk through the quarter. I'll explain our increased guidance and then open it up to questions. Before I talk to the numbers, unless stated otherwise, all the comparisons I'll make today are between the second quarter of 2025 and the second quarter of 2024. I am pleased to say it was a positive and straightforward quarter. The record results at WorkTruck Solutions offset the anticipated lower volumes at WorkTruck Attachments, and our overall performance was essentially in line with last year. Consolidated net sales decreased just 2.8% when compared to 2024 due to the expected lower volumes at attachments related to the timing of preseason shipments. SG&A expenses decreased 6.9% to 21.8 million for the quarter based on lower stock-based compensation and employee benefits costs. Interest expense decreased 27.9% to 3 million due to lower borrowings on the revolver and term loan.

With that, I'd like to pass the call to Sarah.

Thanks, Mark, I will walk through the quarter. I'll explain our increased guidance and then open it up to questions.

Before I talk to the numbers unless stated otherwise, all the comparisons all make today are between the second quarter of 2025 and the second quarter of 2024.

I am pleased to say it was a positive and straightforward quarter.

So record results at work truck Solutions offset the anticipated lower volumes at work truck attachments and our overall performance was essentially in line with last year.

Consolidated net sales decreased just 2.8% when compared to 2024, due to the expected lower volumes at attachments related to the timing of pre-season shipments.

Sgna expenses. Decreased 6.9% to 21.8 million for the quarter based on Lower stock, based compensation, and employee benefits costs,

Enter 6 spans decreased 27.9% to 3 million due to lower borrowing, on the revolver and Term Loan.

Sarah Lauber: Gas net income for the quarter was 26 million, or $1.09 per diluted share, an increase of 6.6% and 6.9% respectively. Adjusted EBITDA was 42.6 million, and margins were flat to last year at 21.9%, which reflects the strength of Solutions' margin improvements that offset the impact of lower preseason shipments in attachments. Overall, results were positive and can be classed in either in line or better than our expectations. When combined with a strong first quarter, we produced a robust first half of the year that has allowed us to narrow and raise our guidance ranges, which I'll get to later. Okay, let's look at the results for the two segments. Overall, WorkTruck Attachments had a good quarter, and our preseason is progressing generally as we expected.

Gaap net income for the quarter was 26 million, or 1.9 cents per diluted. Share an increase of 6.6% and 6.9% respectively.

Adjusted ebita was 42.6 million and margins were flat to last year, as 21.9%, which reflects the strength of solutions margin improvements that offset the impact of lower preseason shipments in attachments.

Overall results were positive.

Neither in line, or better than our expectations.

When combined with a strong first quarter, we produced a robust first half of the year that has allowed us to narrow and raise our guidance ranges, which I'll get to later.

Okay, let's look at a at the results for the 2 sections.

Sarah Lauber: Net sales of 108.1 million and adjusted EBITDA of 31.6 million are lower, but that's due to the anticipated timing of preseason shipments. This year, the ratio of preseason shipments in 2025 is expected to be close to the more traditional 55% to 45% split between the second and third quarters. And if you remember, the 2024 preseason was unusual as higher inventory levels led to significantly more equipment being shipped in the second quarter. That meant the 2024 preseason was unusually skewed towards Q2 in a 65% to 35% ratio. Given that shift, our results this quarter are actually better than they appear at first glance, and we're in line with our expectations thanks to strong execution from the team. Now, let's focus on WorkTruck Solutions, which continues to set records and exceed expectations despite facing tough comparisons to a record-setting quarter last year.

Overall work truck attachments had a good quarter and our pre-season is progressing. Generally as we expected net sales of 108.1 million and adjusted Eva of 31.6 million are lower but that's due.

This is the anticipated timing of preseason shipment.

This year, the ratio of preseason shipments in 2025 is expected to be close to the more traditional 55% to 45% split between the second and third quarters.

And if you remember the 2024 preseason was unusual as higher inventory levels, led to significantly more equipment being shipped in the second quarter.

That meant the 2024 preseason was unusually skewed. Towards 2 Q in a 65% to 35% ratio.

Given that shift our results. This quarter are actually better than they appear at first glance. And we're in line with our expectations. Thanks to strong execution from the team.

Sarah Lauber: We continue to be encouraged by the team's progress, delivering top and bottom-line growth once again. Net sales increased 5.4% to 86.2 million. Adjusted EBITDA grew an impressive 39.8% to 11 million based on product mix, price realization, and higher municipal throughput. The adjusted EBITDA margin of 12.8% is a record for any quarter since 2017. It's fantastic to see the teams deliver such excellent profitability. They're really showing us what they're capable of this year. Remember that 2024 was a record year for Solutions. We'll continue to face difficult comparisons in the back half of the year as we start to measure up to the record results in previous quarters. Also, the Solutions business can vary from one quarter to the next.

Now, let's focus on work truck Solutions, which continues to set records and exceed expectations despite facing tough comparisons to a record setting quarter last year.

We continued to be encouraged by the team's progress, delivering, top and bottom line growth once again.

Net sales increased 5.4% to 86.2 million.

Adjusted ebit. Dog. Grew an impressive 39.8% to 11 million based on product. Mix price, realization and higher municipal throughput.

The adjusted ebita margin of 12.8% is a record for any quarter since 2017.

It's fantastic to see the teams delivered such excellent profitability. They're really showing us what they're capable of this year.

Remember, the 2024 was a record year for Solutions. We'll continue to face difficult comparisons in the back half of the year as we start to measure up to the record results in previous quarter.

Sarah Lauber: That's worked in our favor so far this year, but based on projected product mix and the timing of the deliveries, we anticipate margins will be slightly lower in the second half of 2025. That being said, we still expect Solutions' 2025 results to show continued improvement of margin sustainability over the longer term. Overall, our backlog remains near record level. Municipal demand is strong, and we're working to augment our capacity on that side of the business, given we have great visibility into 2026. We have less visibility for our commercial business. Our fleet business remains solid, but local and dealer business order trends are softening. We will be monitoring this closely as the year continues to unfold. With the results for the quarter covered, I'll turn to the balance sheet and liquidity figures.

We anticipate margins will be slightly lower in the second half of 2025.

That being said, we still expect.

Solutions, 2025 results to show continued Improvement of margin sustainability over the longer term.

Overall, our backlog.

Remains near record levels.

Municipal demand is strong and we're working to augment our capacity on that side of the business, given we have great visibility into 2026.

We have left visibility for our Commercial Business. Our Fleet business remains solid, but local and dealer business order trends are softening.

We will be monitoring this closely as the year continues to unfold.

with the results for the

Sarah Lauber: For the first half of 2025, net cash used in operating activities improved 6.4 million to 12.7 million due to improved earnings somewhat offset by changes in working capital. Total inventory was 153.3 million versus 139.4 million. As we discussed last quarter, the attachment segment has done a great job significantly reducing its inventory over the past year, but this is being masked by the planned inflow of components to supply the rich backlog of orders in Solutions. Year-to-date free cash flow increased approximately 4 million to negative 17.8 million compared to negative 21.9 million in the first half of '24. At mid-year, we maintained 90.5 million of total liquidity, comprised of 8 million in cash and 82.5 million of capacity on the revolver, which is more than ample for our needs this year. Capital expenditures increased by 2.4 million in the first half of 2025 as planned.

Recovered. I'll turn to the balance sheet and liquidity figures.

For the first half of 2025, net cash used in operating activities, improved 6.4 million to 12.7 million due to improved earnings somewhat offset By changes in working capital.

Total inventory was 153.3 Million versus 139.4 million.

As we discussed.

Order. The attachment segment has done a great job significantly reducing its inventory over the past year. But this is being masked by the planned inflow of components to supply the rich backlog of orders in Solutions.

Year to date, free cash flow increased approximately $4 million to negative $7.8 million, compared to negative $21.9 million in the first half of '24.

At mid year, we maintained 90.5 million of total liquidity, comprised of 8 million in cash and 82.5 million of capacity, on the revolver, which is more than ample for our needs this year.

Sarah Lauber: We still expect full-year CAPEX to be towards the higher end of our traditional range of 2% to 3% of net sales. As we catch up on projects we postponed last year, we accelerated a few facility projects as part of last year's sale leaseback agreement. On a related note, thanks to the work we undertook to improve our balance sheet this last year, plus the amended debt agreement signed in March, our leverage ratio is now 2.0 times. That's significantly lower than the 3.3 times this time last year, now at a very manageable level, and we expect to stay around 2 times for the second half of the year, which is well within our full range of 1.5 to 3 times. Finally, as I've said in the past, in a normal to good year, we generate a lot of cash.

Capital expenditures increased by 2.4 million in the first half of 2025 as planned. We still expect full year capex to be towards the higher end of our traditional range of 2, to 3% of net sales. As we catch up on projects. We postponed last year and we accelerate a few facility projects. As part of last year's sales leads back agreements.

On a related note, thanks to the work, we undertook to improve our balance sheet, this last year. Plus the amended debt agreement signed in March, our leverage ratio is now 2.0 times.

That's significantly lower than the 3.3 times this time last year.

Now at a very manageable level and we expect to stay around 2 times for the second half of the year, which is well within our goal range of 1.5 to 3 times.

Sarah Lauber: While some of that will continue to be reinvested in the business, we're committed to returning a healthy amount to investors. We have consistently paid a strong dividend, and we don't expect that to change. It remains our top priority. We're also open to other opportunities, and we repurchased around 210,000 shares during the quarter, covering the stock grants. The dividend and buyback combined totaled 12.9 million returns to shareholders. Okay, let's turn to our outlooks. The headline is this: we are now able to raise and narrow our guidance ranges based on the combination of preseason orders at attachments in line with our expectations, plus another record quarter and strong overall backlog at Solutions. So, we now expect net sales to be between 630 and 660 million. Adjusted EBITDA is now predicted to range from 82 to 97 million.

Finally, as I've said in the past, in a normal to Good Year, we generate a lot of cash.

While some of that will continue to be reinvested in the business, we're committed to returning a healthy amount to investors.

We have consistently paid a strong dividend, and we don't expect that to change. It remains our top priority.

We're also open to other opportunities. And we repurchased around 210,000 shares during the quarter, covering the stock grants.

The dividends and buyback combined totals 12.9 million returned to shareholders.

Okay, let's turn to our Outlook.

The headline is this?

We are now able to raise and narrow. Our guidance ranges based on the combination of preseason orders at attachments in line with our expectations, plus another record quarter and strong overall, backlog at Solutions.

So we now expect net sales to be between 630 and 660 million.

Sarah Lauber: Adjusted earnings per share are expected to be in the range of $1.65 per share to $2.15 per share. Let me provide a little more context. At attachments, preseason orders were generally in line with expectations. As a reminder, our outlook always assumes average snowfall in the fourth quarter. However, we are also assuming that the elongated equipment replacement cycle will continue to have an impact, and therefore, average snowfall may not translate into average volume. When combined with lower dealer inventories, the overall data indicates we remain on track. We believe our measured cost control efforts and close management of production schedules mean we're ready for whatever weather conditions we see later this year. For Solutions, we're confident our operations are performing well, and our near-record backlog provides a level of visibility for the remainder of 2025 and into 2026.

Adjusted IBA is now predicted to range from 82 to 97 million.

Adjusted earnings per share are expected to be in the range of 1.65 per share to 2 15 per share.

Let me provide a little more context.

And attachment pre-season orders were generally in line with expectations.

As a reminder, our Outlook always assumes the average snowfall in the fourth quarter.

However, we are also assuming that the elongated equipment replacement cycle will continue to have an impact.

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When combined with lower dealer inventories, the overall data indicates we remain on track.

We believe our measured cost control efforts and close management of production. Schedules means we're ready for whatever weather conditions we see later this year.

Sarah Lauber: We faced tough comparisons in the second half of the year, but we currently remain on track to deliver expected low double-digit adjusted EBITDA margins, which would be an improvement for the fourth year in a row. It's worth remembering that although uncertainty around the economy and tariffs continues, we have a US-centric business model and believe we are better positioned than most companies. Given all of our manufacturing takes place in the US, around 95% of our net sales are in the US, and we source the vast majority of our steel in the US, and less than 10% of our direct materials are sourced from China, Mexico, or Canada. As a reminder, our guidance includes our expected exposure for current tariffs. To summarize, we're very pleased with our year-to-date results, and we're focused on executing well in the back half of the year.

For Solutions, we're confident our operations are performing well and are near record backlogs, which provides a level of visibility for the remainder of 2025 and into 2026.

We Face tough comparisons in the second half of the year, but we currently remain on track to deliver expected low, double digit adjusted, Eva margins, which would be an improvement for the fourth year in a row.

It's worth remembering but although uncertainty around the economy and tariffs continues, we have a us-centric business model and believe we are better positioned than most companies.

Given all of our manufacturing takes place in the US.

Around 95% of our net sales are in the US and we Source the vast majority of our Steel in the US and less than 10% of our direct materials are sourced from China, Mexico or Canada?

as a reminder, our guidance includes our expected exposure for current tariffs,

Sarah Lauber: With that, we'd like to open the call for questions.

so to summarize we're very pleased with our year-to-date results and we're focused on executing well in the back half of the year

with that, we'd like to open the call for questions.

Drew: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. The first question comes from Mike Schleske with DA Davidson. Please go ahead.

We will now begin the question and answer session to ask a question. You may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speaker-phone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star. Then 2 at this time we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster.

The first question comes from Mike schleske with da Davidson. Please go ahead.

Mike Shlisky: Good morning. guys, what would, what would lower interest rates do for demand in the back half of the year? if we see a rate cut by the year end or maybe early winter, would it be too late to to stimulate some last-minute fourth-quarter demand for additional snow and ice control equipment? And I guess maybe similarly on the commercial side, what's been a little bit challenged more recently, could you squeeze in some deliveries at the end of the year if if we saw lower interest rates, or would anything have to wait until 2026?

Good morning. Um guys, what would uh, what would lower interest rates do for demand in the back, half of the year. Um, if we see a rate cut by the year, end or maybe early winter, I would it be too late to to stimulate some last minute? Fourth quarter, demand for additional snow essential equipment, and I guess, maybe, similarly, on the commercial side, uh, what's been a little bit challenging more recently? Could you squeeze in some deliveries, at the end of the year? If we saw lower interest rates would anything have to wait until 2026?

Mark Van Genderen: Yeah, Mike, it's Mark. I'll, I'll, I'll take that one. I would, I would say generally no. You'd have to see some pretty significant decreases to ultimately end up with consumer, interest rates, contractor consumer interest rates at a point where that would, you know, I'd say, I'd say move the needle. For us, it's really more around, you know, the average snowfall or above in, in the fourth quarter.

Sarah Lauber: Yeah, I would just add, Mike, I mean, any, I guess, positive economic sentiment that we start to feel, from a demand perspective, if that were to occur, to to have the capacity and be able to deliver additional snow and ice equipment and/or commercial volumes, we have the capacity, and would be able to do that if we actually felt enough of that, you know, lift that you're describing.

Yeah, Mike. It's Mark. I'll I'll take that 1. I would, I would say generally no. You'd have to see some pretty significant decreases to ultimately end up with consumer. Uh, interest rates contractor consumer, interest rates at a point where that would, you know, I'd say I'd say move the needle for us, it's really more around. You know, uh, the average average snowfall or above in uh, uh, in the fourth quarter.

I would just add my, I mean, any, I guess, positive economic sense that we start to feel, um, from a demand perspective, if that were to occur, um, to to have the capacity and be able to deliver additional snow, and ice equipment and or commercial volume. Um, we have the capacity, um, and would be able to do that. If if we actually felt enough of that,

Mark Van Genderen: And, and I would, I would add, I would add on top of that too, to Sarah's point, if over time, you know, you're kind of talking short term, you know, if over time we were to see interest rates move down to where they were on average, you know, two, three, four years ago, but say from the, you know, at the consumer level from the 8% to 10% range to the 2% to 4% range, you know, that certainly has a positive, positive impact on the business because it's our equipment, and then in a lot of cases, it's the, it's the new trucks that are being purchased, at the same time.

You know, lift that you're describing.

And and I would, I would add I would add on top of that too. To Sarah's point if, if over time, you know, you're kind of talking short term. You know, if over time we were to see interest rates move down to where they were on average, you know, 2 3, 4 years ago. So say from the, you know, the consumer level from the 8 to 10% range, to the 2 to 4% range. You know, that certainly has a, a positive, a positive impact on the business because it's our equipment and then in a lot of cases, it's the, it's the new trucks that are being purchased um, at at the same time.

Mike Shlisky: Great. And my other question was, Sarah, I want to follow up on your comment about, capacity. If you're adding 10% more capacity for our municipal business, does that mean that you're reducing commercial capacity, or are you overall increasing your, your capacity? And just want to make sure that what you're adding isn't just crowding in, but there's some, there's some decent margin on that, on the new capacity.

Great. And my question was, Sarah, I wanted to help on your comment about, um, capacity.

Mark Van Genderen: Yeah, it's a great, it's a great question. This one, when we talk about it, on the municipal side, it's additional capacity that isn't replacing anything in, in the, the, the fleet or dealer. So, a lot of it's really driven, I mentioned, the new facility that's currently being built, for, for Henderson, both for new vehicles, production, as well as for servicing, in Columbia, Missouri. We, we broke ground on that with our partners about a month ago or so, and, and they're currently on track. That's going to be a, a beautiful, purpose-built facility that's going to increase capacity overall for Henderson.

If you're adding 10% more capacity for a municipal business, does that mean that you're reducing professional capacity or are you overall, increasing your Your Capacity? And just want to make sure that what you're adding isn't just crowding in but there's some there's some decent margin on that on a new capacity.

Yeah, it's a great. It's a great question. This, when, when we talk about it, uh, on the municipal side, it's additional capacity that isn't replacing anything in. Uh, uh,

Being built, uh, for, uh, for Henderson. Both for new vehicles.

A production as well as for servicing uh and Columbia, Missouri? We uh we broke ground on that with our partners about a month ago or so and and they're currently on track. That's going to be a a beautiful uh purpose-built facility that's going to increase capacity, overall for Henderson.

Mike Shlisky: Thank you so much. I'll pass it along.

Thank you so much. I'll pass it along.

Drew: The next question comes from Tim Weiss with Baird. Please go ahead.

The next question comes from Tim Weiss with Beard. Please go ahead.

Tim Weiss: Hey, everybody. Good, good morning. Nice, nice shot. maybe just my first question, just as you're kind of looking at the channel now for attachments, I know that there's an elongated kind of replacement cycle, but, but how would you kind of characterize the inventory levels, you know, relative to to kind of what you would see on a, you know, I don't know if it's a 10-year average or something like that, just trying to get some context about where the, where the channel is, on the attachment side.

Hey everybody good. Uh good morning, nice. Nice job. Um,

May maybe just my first question just as you're kind of looking at the the channel. Now, for attachments, I know that there's an elongated kind of replacement cycle, but but how would you kind of characterize?

The inventory levels, you know, relative to to kind of what you would see on a, you know, I don't know if it's a 10 year average or something like that. Just trying to get some context about where the, where the channel is um, on the attachment side.

Mark Van Genderen: Yeah, you know, we really, we look at inventory and kind of through two different lenses. What's, what's our inventory, and then what's the, what's the dealer inventory? And I guess I'll start with, with, with ours. I know you talked about Shell, but I'll talk just a bit about ours. Our, our current inventory, and both Sarah and I noted on it, is I think we're in, we're in very, very good shape right now, just in terms of overall, production, in terms of production planning. The whole, centers of expertise that I discussed has really helped us with, I'd say, you know, optimal inventory control and then increased flexibility should we see, you know, demand move up or down. And we're certainly, hoping, planning, and expecting it to, to, to be up, this, this winter with additional, hopefully normal, normal snowfall.

Yeah, I, you know, we really we look at inventory and kind of through 2 different lenses. What's what's our inventory and then, what's the, what's the dealer inventory? And I guess I'll start with with with ours. I know you talked about Channel but I'll talk to us a bit about ours, our our current inventory and both s. And I noted on it is I think we're we're in very, very good shape right now. Just in terms of overall, opportun

Mark Van Genderen: You know, in the dealer channel, I've spent a lot of time talking with our dealers. Our, our sales team would tell you that on the plow side, it's come down nicely over the last, you know, couple, couple of years. Is it exactly where we'd like it to be? I think it's getting, it's getting pretty close. And between kind of our, what I'll say, cautious approach to production, coupled with a, a, a normal snow year, you can see the dealers in a, in a really good spot this year as it relates to, to, to, to inventory.

production in terms of production planning, the whole, uh, centers of expertise that I discussed is really helped us with, I'd say, you know, optimal in inventory control, and then increased flexibility, should we see, um, you know, demand, move up or down and we're certainly uh, hoping planning and expecting it to to be up uh this this winter with additional, hopefully normal normal snowfall

Mark Van Genderen: I think on the hopper side, just based on the fact that last season we had such a strong year as it relates to snow and ice, certainly from a qualitative standpoint, again, at the, at the shows and in talking with dealers, you know, there's a, there's a real, desire for, for that, for that product. I think inventories, I would say, are, are generally in, in, in very good shape. And I think the addition of us introducing this new, auto speed controller that, that I shared, and we, we launched a couple of months ago, and that's retroactive back for, for several years, I think that really, holds well for hoppers.

You know, in the dealer Channel, I spent a lot of time talking with our dealers. Our, our sales team would tell you that on the plow side, it's come down nicely over the last. You know, couple couple of years. Is it exactly where we'd like it to be? I think it's getting it's getting pretty close and between kind of our what I'll say uh cautious approach to production coupled with a a normal snow year uh you'd see the dealers in a in a really good spot this year as it relates to um to to to inventory. I think on the hopper side. Um, just based on the fact that last season, we had such a strong year as it relates to snow and ice. Uh, certainly from a qualitative standpoint again at the at the shows and I'm talking with dealers, you know, there's a there's a real, uh, desire for. Um, for that for that product, I think inventory is, I would say are are generally and and, and very good shape. And I think the addition of us introducing this new

Auto speed controller that uh that I shared. And we we launched a couple of months ago and that's retroactive back for for several years. I think that really um

Mark Van Genderen: So, so in a, in a, in a nutshell, I'd say, again, plow inventory pretty close to where we'd like it to be, maybe a little bit of an opportunity at the dealer level to get it better, which will happen with our production and, and, and a good snowfall year. And, hoppers and spreaders pretty much right on where we would, where we would want it to be.

Tim Weiss: Okay. Okay, great. That's really helpful. And then just on the, you know, the solution side, you mentioned mix was favorable. Was that mix with it within, you know, kind of just muni versus commercial, or was it mix within mix? Like the mix within one of those businesses? Just, just a matter of color on that.

Offers so. So, in a, in a, in a nutshell, I'd say again, uh, plow inventory pretty close to where we'd like it to be, maybe a little bit of an opportunity, at the dealer level to get it better, which will happen with our production. And, and, uh, and a good snowfall here and, uh, Hoppers and spreaders, pretty much right on where we would, where we would want it to be.

Okay, okay, great. That that's really helpful. And then just on the, you know, the solution side you you mentioned mixed with favorable was that mixed with the within you know kind of just me versus commercial or is it.

Sarah Lauber: Yeah, it was really more mix within the municipal side of the business. So, we have a lot of contracts, that we're aware of, and as you know, we have pretty good visibility in, in that business. for the first and second quarters, we did have quite a few trucks going out the door that, are at a, at a hard higher than typical margin. so it'll be a little bit choppy at the back half of the year, but, I still expect full-year improvement for Solutions at the margin level, when it, when all is said and done.

Mixed within mix like the mix within 1 of those businesses. Just systematic color on that. Yeah, it was really more mixed within the municipal side of the business. So we have a lot of contracts, um, that we're aware of. And, and as you know, we have pretty good visibility in in that business, um, for the first and second quarters, we did have quite a few trucks going out. The door that um, are at a, at a hard higher than typical margin. Um so it'll be a little bit choppy in the back half of the year. But um I still expect full year Improvement for Solutions at the margin level. Um when when all

Tim Weiss: Okay. Okay. And then how much price is, is kind of going through your top line in both segments this year?

All is said, and done.

Okay. Okay. And then how much

Sarah Lauber: Yeah, both segments are pretty consistent in the low single-digit range, and that is, what we saw in the second quarter. It's also what I expect for the, for the full year.

Price is, is kind of going through your Top Line in both segments this year.

Yeah, both.

Tim Weiss: Okay. Okay, great. Well, thanks a lot.

Are pretty consistent in the low, single digit range, and that is, uh, what we saw in the second quarter. It's also what I expect for the, for the full year.

Okay, great. Well thanks a lot.

Drew: The next question comes from Greg Burns with Sadocy & Company. Please go ahead.

Greg burns with sodium Company. Please go ahead.

Greg Burns: Good morning. I just, I just wanted to kind of follow up on the, the margin expectations for the Solutions segment in the, in the second half. I guess the, the, the guide still is implying, I know you mentioned that, you know, you're expecting for the year to be up, I guess, I don't, I don't know by how much, over, over 24, but that would imply a decent decline in margin versus, you know, where you were for the whole of the, the first half. And it doesn't seem like demand's falling off, you know, broadly, especially in municipal. So, production levels I would expect would be okay in the second half. I'm just trying to get a better understanding of, of why you expect margins to decline appreciably from the, the first half and the second half.

Good morning. Um, I just, I just want to kind of follow up on the the margin expectations for this solutions segment in the in the second half. Um,

I guess the, the the guy that's still is implying, I I know you're you mentioned that, you know, you're expecting for the year to be up, I guess, I don't, I don't know by how much over over 24 but that would imply.

A decent decline in margin versus, you know, where you were for the whole of the first half. And it doesn't seem like the man's.

Falling off. Um, you know,

Broadly, especially in Municipal. So, production levels. I would expect would be okay in the second half. I'm just trying to get a better understanding of of why you expect margins to decline appreciably from the the first half, and the second half.

Sarah Lauber: Yeah, I wouldn't, I don't, I don't know that I would agree that it's appreciably. It's, you know, I, I expect for the full year that we continue to improve the margin. It is going to be close to 24, but, certainly in the low double-digit range. I do think the back half of the year, is going to be more difficult, clearly, as you're speaking to from a comp perspective. but the shipment mix that I have expected for the back half of the year is not as great when you, when you think about sequential margins. so they've, they've been outperforming, year to date. Could there be a little bit of that? I, I don't know. we're not predicting that with the product mix that we're expecting.

Yeah, I wouldn't, I don't.

agree that

improve the margin. It is going to be close to 24 but um certainly in the low double digit range. I do think the back half of the year um is going to be more difficult clearly, as you're speaking to from a comp perspective, um but the shipment mix that I have expected for the back, half of the year is not as great when you when you think about sequential margins. Um, so they, they've been

Outperforming um, year to date.

Sarah Lauber: what I'm pleased about, though, is that I really feel like we are stabilizing our margins in that segment at a higher level. And, you know, when I think about the longer term, it, it can be lumpy quarter to quarter as we're talking about it through the year, but the important thing is that we're seeing that improvement and stabilization at the higher level.

Could there be a little bit of that? I, I don't know. Um, we are not predicting that with the product mix that we're expecting. Um, what I'm pleased about though is that I really feel like we are stabilizing our margins in that segment at a higher level. And, you know, when I think about the longer term, it it can be lumpy quarter to quarter as we're talking about it, through the year. But the important thing is that we're seeing that Improvement and stabilization at the higher level

Greg Burns: Okay, great. And then, getting the acquisition engine going again, could you just maybe talk about, what the pipeline looks like, out there, you know, what you're seeing and maybe any, any particular areas of focus that, that you'd be, looking to add to the portfolio? Thank you.

Okay, great. And then, um,

getting the acquisition engine going again, could you just maybe

Talk about, um, what the pipeline looks like, uh, out there. Um, you know what, what you're seeing and maybe any any particular areas of focus that that you'd be uh, looking to add to the portfolio. Thank you.

Mark Van Genderen: Yeah, absolutely. It's, it's, as we talk about that third area, kind of our strategic area of focus of activate, it's one we've been spending a lot of time on because we're now, as we noted, in a position from a financial health standpoint, I think from a solid leadership standpoint, and really kind of a vision standpoint of saying, "Hey, what, what might be available?" And as, as we look at where our strengths are as a company, you know, we're certainly, I'd say we've got, we've got strengths really in two areas. One is in the, manufacturing of attachments. That's everything from engineering, supply chain, optimizing operations, great sales and marketing. you know, we really lead, lead the industry in, in, in, in snow and ice.

Yeah, absolutely. It's it's uh as we talk about that third area kind of our strategic area of focus of activate its 1. We've been spending a lot of time on because we're now as we noted in a position from a Financial Health standpoint I think from a a solid leadership standpoint and really kind of a vision standpoint of saying, hey what what might be be available at as as we look at where our strengths are as a company. You know, we're certainly I'd say we've got we've got strengths really in 2 areas, 1 is in.

The, uh, manufacturing of attachments, that's everything from Engineering Supply Chain. Um, optimizing operations, uh, great sales and marketing. Um,

Mark Van Genderen: And that's certainly over the last several years we have, we have improved and understood more as a company, you know, how, how upfitting can, can, can be a part of that as well. what we're really focused on now is, is in the attachment space. Our last couple of acquisitions have been, you know, more in the, in the, in the upfitting space. You know, really looking at the attachments and saying, "Hey, what are transferable, or what are additional markets that our capabilities as a company, our, our expertise as a company are transferable to?" So, certainly we think about it as, you know, truck attachments kind of at the center of that bullseye. And then we look at other vehicle, vehicle, attachments. there's a, there's a lot out there, and we're just at the beginning of scratching the surface to understand it.

you know, we really lead lead the industry and and and and snow and ice and then certainly over the last several years, we have we have improved and understood more as a company, you know? Uh, how how upfitting can can can be a part of that as well.

Really focused on now is is in the attachment space.

Our last couple of Acquisitions have been, you know, more in the, in the, in the upfitting space. You know, really looking at it, the attachments and saying, hey, what are transferable?

Mark Van Genderen: but activating specific relationships, getting a better handle on, on, on what that looks like, you know, and realizing where we could apply, again, our, our strengths in, in engineering, operations, supply, sales, and marketing, against the backdrop of, you know, companies that are, that are, you know, most likely outside, outside of the, the, the snow and ice industry is really what we're looking at right now.

Additional markets that are capabilities as a company are are expertise as a company are transferable to. So certainly we think about it as, you know, truck attachments kind of at the center of that Bullseye and then we look at other vehicle vehicle, uh, attachments. Um, there's a, there's a lot out there and we're just at the beginning of scratching the surface to understand it. Um, but activating specific relationships, getting a better handle on on what that looks like, you know, and realizing where we could apply again, our, our strengths and and Engineering uh, operations Supply, uh, sales and marketing, uh, against the backdrop of, you know, companies that are that are, you know, most likely outside outside of the the snow and ice industry is really what we're looking at right now.

Greg Burns: All right, great. Thanks for that.

All right, great. Thanks.

Drew: Again, if you have a question, please press star then one. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mark Vengendren, President and C.CEO for any closing remarks.

again, if you have a question, please press star then 1

Nathan Elwell: Yeah, thank you. And thanks, everyone, for your time today. We appreciate your continued interest in Douglas Dynamics, and we look forward to talking with you soon.

Would like to turn the conference back over to Mark Van genderen president and CEO for any closing. Remarks.

Thank you.

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