Q2 2025 OraSure Technologies Inc Earnings Call
Liz: Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the OraSure Technologies second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during this session, you'll need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I'd now like to hand the conference over to Jason Plagman, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
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Jason Plagman: Good afternoon, and welcome to OraSure Technologies second quarter 2025 earnings call. Participating in the call today for OTI are Carrie Eglinton Manner, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Ken McGrath, our Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, today's webcast is being recorded, and the recording can be found on our Investor Relations website. Before we begin, you should know that this call may contain certain forward-looking statements, including statements with respect to revenues, expenses, profitability, earnings or loss per share, and other financial performance, product development, performance, shipments, and markets, business plans, regulatory filings and approvals, expectations, and strategies. Actual results could be significantly different. Factors that could affect results are discussed more fully in OTI's SEC filings, its annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2024, its quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, and its other SEC filings.
Good afternoon and welcome to OraSure Technologies' second quarter 2025 earnings call.
Participating in the call today for oti or Carrie Eglinton manner, our president and chief executive officer and Ken McGrath our Chief Financial Officer. As a reminder, today's webcast is being recorded and the recording can be found on our investor relations website.
Before we begin, you should know that this call may contain certain forward-looking statements including statements with respect to revenues expenses profitability earnings or loss per share and other financial performance product development, performance shipments and markets business plans regulatory filings and approvals, expectations, and strategies actual results could be significantly different.
Factors that could affect results or discuss more fully in Otis SEC filings its annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2024.
Jason Plagman: Although forward-looking statements help to provide more complete information about future prospects, listeners should keep in mind that forward-looking statements are based solely on information available to management as of today. OTI undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after this call. With that, I am pleased to turn the call over to Carrie.
Its quarterly reports on form 10q. That's other SEC filings. Although for looking statements help to provide more complete information about future prospects listeners. Should keep in mind that forward-looking statements are based solely on information available to management as of today.
Oti undertakes. No. Obligation to update. Any forward-looking statements, to reflect events or circumstances after this call.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Thanks, Jason, and thank you to everyone for joining us today. We are pleased to provide an update on the progress OTI is making on the three pillars of our strategic transformation: one, strengthening our foundation; two, elevating our core growth; and three, accelerating profitable growth. Today, I'll discuss some highlights from Q2 and our progress on our key priorities for 2025 and beyond. A few notable developments include we reported revenue in Q2 that was in the top half of our guidance range for both total revenue and core revenue. We continue to advance our innovation roadmap in order to expand our portfolio with new products. To that end, we launched our HEMA Collect protein offering in July in an effort to meet the evolving needs of proteomic researchers. This product also expands our sample management solutions into a new sample type, blood.
With that, I am pleased to turn the call over to Carrie.
Thanks, Jason. And thank you to everyone for joining us. Today, we are pleased to provide an update on the progress Oti is making on the 3rd of our strategic transformation: 1, strengthening our foundation; 2, elevating our core growth; and 3, accelerating profitable growth.
Today, I'll discuss some highlights from Q2 and our progress on our key priorities for 2025 and Beyond.
A few notable notable developments include.
We reported revenue in Q2 that was in the top half of our guidance range for both total revenue and core revenue.
We continue to advance our Innovation roadmap in order to expand our portfolio with new products.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Next, Anne Matheen joined OTI this week as Chief Commercial Officer. She will be responsible for sales, marketing, and product management and will help shape the vision and management of our product portfolio with the aim to expand market leadership and drive sustainable accelerated growth. And as we previewed last quarter, during Q2, we substantially completed the transition from external contract manufacturing of our SMS products outside of the US to our internal capabilities in Pennsylvania. Looking at Q2, core revenue of $30.8 million was above the midpoint of our guidance range. Diagnostics grew 3% year over year, and sample management revenue decreased 22% year over year, with a decline attributable to a large customer in the consumer genetics segment, as we discussed on prior calls.
To that end. We launched our Hema collect protein offering in July and an effort to meet the evolving needs of proteomic researchers. This product also expands our sample Management Solutions into a new sample type blood.
Next and messing joined oti this week. As Chief commercial officer, she will be responsible for sales marketing, and product management and will help shape the vision and management of our product portfolio with the aim to expand market leadership and drive sustainable accelerated growth.
And as we previewed last quarter during Q2, we substantially completed the transition from external contract manufacturing of our SMS products outside of the us to our internal capabilities in Pennsylvania.
looking at Q2,
With the decline attributable to a large customer and the consumer genetic segments as we've discussed on prior calls.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Excluding the impact of that customer, sample management revenue growth would have been positive on a year-over-year basis in Q2, and overall core revenue growth would have been 5% compared to the prior year. Broadly speaking, our key end markets remain mixed, and we are staying closely aligned with our customers as they navigate an environment with improving but still elevated levels of uncertainty related to funding for public health programs as well as for research. In our international diagnostics business, we delivered year-over-year revenue growth in Q2 and the first half of 2025, despite unprecedented disruption due to USAID funding freezes for local distribution and implementation partners in many markets. Due to that disruption, the pace of deployment of HIV tests to end users in those geographies slowed considerably over the last six months, as also recently referenced by other industry suppliers.
Excluding the impact of that customer. Sample management. Revenue growth would have been positive on a year-over-year basis in Q2,
And overall.
New Growth would have been 5% compared to the prior year.
Broadly speaking. Our key, end markets, remain mixed and we are staying closely aligned with our customers as they navigate an environment.
With improving but still elevated levels of uncertainty related to funding for public health programs as well as for research.
in our International Diagnostics business, we delivered year-over-year Revenue growth in Q2 and the first half of 2025, despite unprecedented disruption, due to usaid funding freezes for local distribution and implementation Partners in many markets,
Due to that disruption, the pace of deployments of HIV tests to end users in those geographies. Flowed considerably over the last 6 months.
As also recently referenced by other industry, suppliers?
Carrie Eglinton Manner: We now expect a slower pace of international orders for our HIV test in the second half of the year as our in-country partners work through their existing inventory and national health programs adapt to changes in the funding environment. Longer term, we remain confident in our competitive positioning in the international HIV testing market due to several important factors. First, our unique oral fluid-based rapid test is preferred by patients. It's easy to use and interpret at the point of need, and it requires fewer resources and clinical support than tests that are lab-based or require collection of a blood sample. And second, OTI has a history of proven success with 10 years of consistent leadership and strong enduring relationships with customers and partners.
We now expect a slower pace of international orders for our HIV test. In the second, half of the year, as our in-country partners work through their existing inventory and national health programs, adapt to changes in the funding environment.
Longer term, we remain confident in our competitive positioning in the international HIV. Testing Market due to several important factors.
The first are unique oral fluid-based rapid tests that are preferred by patients. They're easy to use and interpret at the point of need, and they require fewer resources and less clinical support than tests that are lab-based or require the collection of a blood sample.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Of course, we are closely monitoring the situation and actively engaging across the ecosystem in order to deliver on life-saving test-to-treat programs that remain critical to improving global health. In our US diagnostics business, revenue has been relatively steady, declining 1% year over year in the first half of 2025. Many of our public health customers are dealing with elevated uncertainty given potential cuts to their budgets and significant reductions in staffing at HHS, CDC, and other agencies that administer health programs. In May, we discussed the pending wind-down of Together Take Me Home, a federal program with strong bipartisan support in Congress that makes HIV self-tests available through the mail. Since then, program administrators have received a rescission of the closeout letter, and Together Take Me Home may continue beyond the end of the federal fiscal year on September 30th.
And second oti has a history of proven success with 10 years of consistent leadership and strong enduring relationships with customers and partners.
Of course we are closely monitoring the situation and actively engaging across the ecosystem. In order to deliver on lifesaving tests to treat programs, that remain critical to improving Global health.
And our us Diagnostics business. Revenue has been relatively steady declining, 1% year-over-year in the first half of 2025.
Many of our Public Health, customers are dealing with elevated uncertainty, given potential cuts to their budgets and significant reductions in Staffing at HHS CDC and other agencies that administer health programs.
In may, we discussed the pending windown of together. Take me home a federal program with strong, bipartisan, support in Congress. That makes HIV self tests available through the mail,
Carrie Eglinton Manner: That said, program funding levels have not yet been communicated, and we continue to actively monitor the situation, which remains fluid. We expect to recognize approximately half a million dollars of revenue from Together Take Me Home in Q3, compared to $2 million in Q2 due to the timing of orders. We are hopeful that we will be able to continue our work with our partners in the program, which has delivered significant benefits since it launched three years ago, including reaching at-risk populations who had not previously understood their HIV status and are now engaged in testing and prevention or treatment that improves their quality of life and helps end the HIV epidemic.
Since then program administrators have received a rescission of the closeout letter and together take me home may continue beyond the end of the federal fiscal year on September 30th.
That said program funding levels. Have not yet been communicated and we can continue to actively monitor the situation which remains fluid
We expect to recognize approximately half a million dollars of revenue from together, take me home in Q3 compared to 2 million dollars in Q2 due to the timing of orders.
We are hopeful that we will be able to continue our work with our partners in the program, which has delivered significant benefits since it launched 3 years ago including including reaching at risk, populations who had not previously understood their HIV status.
And are now engaged in testing and prevention or treatment that improves their quality of life and helps end the HIV epidemic.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Switching gears to our sample management business, our commercial segment, which includes advanced diagnostic labs, pharma, and biotech, and animal health companies, amongst others, grew in the first half of 2025, excluding the disruption we've experienced with our consumer genetics customer. In the academic and research segment, some of our customers have been negatively impacted by reductions in NIH funding, as we discussed last quarter. Looking ahead, we see continued stability in SMS revenue in Q3 and Q4. And specific to our large consumer genetics customer, we view the recent resolution of their ownership as a positive for everyone. Consistent with what we've shared, we do not anticipate any significant revenue from this customer in the second half of the year, and we think orders are more likely to resume in 2026.
Switching gears to our sample management business.
Our commercial segment which includes Advanced Diagnostic Labs Pharma and biotech.
and Animal Health companies, amongst others grew in the first half of 2025, excluding the disruption we've experienced with our consumer, genetics customer
In the academic and research, segments. Some of our customers have been negatively impacted by reductions in NIH funding as we discussed last quarter.
Looking ahead. We see continued stability in SMS, Revenue in Q3 and Q4
And specific to our large consumer genetics customer. We view the recent resolution of their ownership as a positive for everyone.
Significant revenue from this customer in the second half of the year. And we think orders are more likely to resume in 2026.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: As we described last quarter, we continue to believe it's a matter of time, when, not if, genomics end segments return to consistently stronger growth, driven by scientific advancements and greater clinical adoption of precision medicine. At the same time, we remain focused on maintaining strong customer relationships while cultivating new ones. As an example, we're pleased to announce the renewal of our agreement with GeneDx, a valued and longstanding customer. Our OraCollect kits help enable early diagnosis of rare pediatric diseases through the use of GeneDx's exome and genome analysis. We're also pleased to highlight one of our newer relationships with Targeted Genomics, the developer of Gluten-ID, the first and only US FDA-cleared direct-to-consumer test for celiac disease genetics. Celiac disease, the most common intestinal autoimmune disease worldwide, is triggered by dietary gluten in people who carry certain celiac risk genes.
As we described last quarter, we continue to believe it's a matter of time when, not if, genomics and segments return to consistently stronger growth.
Driven by scientific advancements and greater clinical adoption of precision medicine.
At the same time, we remain focused on maintaining strong customer relationships while cultivating new ones. As an example, we're pleased to announce the renewal of our agreement with Gene DX a valued and long-standing customer
Our Aura collects kits, help enable early diagnosis of rare, pediatric, diseases, through the use of Gene, DX's, EXO and genome analysis.
We're also pleased to highlight 1 of our newer relationships.
With targeted genomics, the developer of gluten ID, the first, and only us FDA cleared direct to Consumer tests for celiac disease, genetics.
Celiac disease. The most common intestinal autoimmune disease worldwide.
is triggered by dietary gluten, and people who carry certain Celiac risk genes,
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Individuals who test negative for these genes have less than a 1% chance for developing celiac disease. Gluten-ID assesses all 15 possible genetic combinations of the risk genes using DNA isolated from saliva and collected with our OraCollect Dx device. This test allows for at-home collection of saliva samples, simplifying the test process so patients can get actionable answers and ultimately relief. OTI is proud to collaborate with Targeted Genomics to make celiac disease screening more accessible and convenient for at-risk individuals and their families. In addition to expanding our customer relationships, we also continue to advance our innovation roadmap. As planned in July, we launched our HEMA Collect protein product.
Individuals, who test negative for these genes have less than a 1% chance for developing celiac disease.
Gluten ID, assesses, all 15 possible. Genetic combinations of the risk genes using DNA isolated from saliva and collected, with our or collect DX device.
This test allows for at home collection of samples.
Simplifying the test process so patients can get actionable answers and ultimately relief.
Oti is proud to collaborate with targeted genomics, to make celiac disease. Screening more accessible and convenient for at risk individuals, and their families.
in addition, to expanding our customer relationships, we also continue to advance our Innovation roadmap
Carrie Eglinton Manner: This blood collection device and chemistry has the potential to transform proteomic research and discovery through extended protein stabilization at room temperature and a simplified workflow, and it is anticipated that use of the device for sample collection will deliver operational and financial efficiencies to researchers. The HEMA Collect protein collection kit is compatible with a broad range of proteomic technologies, including mass spec, immunoassays, and high-throughput affinity-based platforms. We believe our HEMA Collect protein offering represents a significant advancement in sample collection for proteomics and that it can support research and laboratory-developed tests in rapidly growing applications such as oncology, neurology, cardiology, metabolic disorders, and beyond. Moving to our ColiP device, which is designed for first void urine collection, we're making strong progress toward our planned goal of a 2025 FDA submission.
as planned in July, we launched our hemoc collect protein product,
this blood collection device and chemistry has the potential to transform proteomic research and Discovery through extended protein stabilization.
At room temperature and a simplified workflow and it is anticipated that use of the device for sample. Collection will deliver operational and financial efficiencies to researchers.
The Hema Collect Protein Collection Kit is compatible with a broad range of proteomic technologies, including mass spectrometry, immunoassays, and high-throughput affinity-based platforms.
We believe our hemoglobin protein, offering represents a significant advancement in Sample collection 4 Prout and that it can support research, and laboratory developed tests in rapidly growing applications such as oncology neurology Cardiology metabolic disorders and Beyond.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: We're in active discussions with leading diagnostics platform providers seeking to expand into self-collected non-invasive testing across large and growing markets, including sexually transmitted infections, HPV, and other disease states. These segments represent multibillion-dollar global TAMs, and we see significant growth opportunities for ColiP, driven by patient preference for less invasive sample collection and increased demand for convenient, accessible, and private diagnostic options. For HPV specifically, ColiP also addresses longstanding challenges with urine-based testing by enabling assay sensitivity and specificity comparable to invasive swabs, opening the door to broader, more inclusive screening programs. Meanwhile, oncology and liquid biopsy applications are also gaining momentum, with urine emerging as a powerful new matrix for early cancer detection. Coupled with our proprietary DNA-RNA stabilization chemistry, ColiP is uniquely positioned to power the next generation of high-impact, patient-centric diagnostics.
Moving to our colleague P device which is designed for first void urine collection. We're making strong progress toward our planned goals of a 2025 FDA submission.
We're an active discussions with leading Diagnostics platform providers.
Seeking to expand in the self-collected non-invasive testing across large and growing markets, including sexually transmitted infections HPV and other disease dates.
These segments represent multi-billion dollar, Global tans.
And we see significant growth opportunities. For collie P driven by patient preference for less invasive sample collection.
And increased demand for convenient accessible and private diagnostic options.
For HPV specifically collie P. Also addresses long-standing challenges with urine-based testing by enabling assay sensitivity and specificity comparable to invasive swabs.
Opening the door to broader more inclusive, screening programs.
Meanwhile, oncology and liquid biopsy applications are also gaining momentum with urine emerging as a powerful new Matrix for early cancer detection.
Coupled with our proprietary DNA RNA stabilization, chemistry collie p is uniquely positioned to power the next generation of high impact. Patient Centric Diagnostics.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Next in product innovation, our clinical study for Sherlock's first over-the-counter molecular self-test for chlamydia and gonorrhea, or CTNG, is progressing well. We remain on track to submit data to the FDA by the end of 2025. As a reminder, CTNG testing is the largest market within STIs, and it requires molecular technology. Sherlock's CTNG test is truly disposable at-home test designed to deliver lab-like clinical performance with a rapid turnaround time at what we believe will be an attractive price point. Of the tens of millions of CTNG tests performed in the US each year, the vast majority are currently processed in a centralized lab. We are confident that the introduction of an affordable over-the-counter test has the potential to drive incremental market adoption through improved access to convenient private testing options in a segment where privacy is a key priority.
Anora or ctng is progressing. Well,
we remain on track to submit data to the FDA by the end of 2025.
As a reminder, ctng testing is the largest Market within STI, and it requires molecular technology.
Sherlock, ctng test is truly disposable at home test designed to deliver lab like clinical performance with a rapid, turnaround time at what we believe will be an attractive price point.
Of the tens of millions of CT and G. Tests performed in the US each year, the vast majority are currently processed in a centralized lab.
We are confident that the introduction of an affordable over-the-counter test has the potential to drive incremental market. Adoption through improved access to convenience private testing options in a segment where privacy is a key priority.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: As I've described today, our team is making meaningful progress in advancing our innovation roadmap in order to expand our portfolio through new product launches, and we are also expanding and diversifying our client relationships in new segments. We expect our momentum to accelerate under the leadership of our new Chief Commercial Officer, Anne Matheen. Anne brings more than 25 years of commercial leadership experience in life sciences, diagnostics, and clinical laboratory services. Prior to joining OTI, she was Vice President and General Manager of the US region for Becton Dickinson BD Biosciences. And Anne's prior experience at Danaher, Quest Diagnostics, Siemens, and in hospital labs is both valuable and relevant for OTI and for our customers. Anne has a proven track record of driving growth, building high-performing sales teams, and transforming strategic vision into demonstrable results and sustainable success.
As I've described today, our team is making meaningful progress in advancing. Our Innovation roadmap in order to expand our portfolio through new product launches. And we are also expanding, and diversifying. Our client relationships in new segments,
We expect our momentum to accelerate under the leadership of our new Chief Commercial Officer and messaging.
and brings more than 25 years of commercial leadership experience, in life sciences, Diagnostics and Clinical Laboratory services,
Carrie Eglinton Manner: We are excited to welcome Anne to our business and leadership team. With that, I'll turn the call over to Ken to discuss our financial results and guidance.
Prior to joining oti. She was vice president and general manager of the US region for beckton Dickinson's. BD biosciences. And Anne's prior experience at danaher Quest, Diagnostics, semmens, and in hospital, Labs is both valuable and relevant for oti. And for our customers and has a proven track record of driving growth building, high-performing sales teams and transforming strategic Vision Vision into demonstrable results and sustainable success. We are excited to welcome and to our business and leadership team.
Ken McGrath: Thanks, Carrie. Total revenue in the second quarter was $31.2 million. Core revenue, which excludes COVID-19 products and the molecular services and risk assessment testing businesses that we exited, was $30.8 million. As Carrie mentioned, core revenue growth in Q2 would have been positive on a year-over-year basis if you exclude the decline in revenue from the large consumer genetics customer. Diagnostic products generated $19.2 million of revenue in Q2 and grew 3% year over year. Sample management solutions revenue in the second quarter was $9.9 million. Excluding the headwind from the consumer genetics customer, sample management revenue from the rest of our customer base grew on a year-over-year basis in Q2. COVID-19 and risk assessment testing products contributed $474,000 of revenue combined in the second quarter, which was consistent with our guidance, and we completed our exit from the risk assessment testing business during Q2.
With that, I'll turn the call over to Ken to discuss our financial results and guidance.
Thanks Carrie.
Total revenue in the second quarter was $31.2 million.
Core Revenue which excludes Co 19 products and the molecular services and risk assessment testing businesses that we exited was 30.8 Million.
as Carrie mentioned core Revenue growth in Q2 would have been positive on a year-over-year basis if you exclude the decline in revenue from the large consumer genetics, customer
diagnostic products generated 19.2 million dollars of Revenue in Q2 and grew, 3% year-over-year,
In the second quarter with 9.9 million.
Excluding the headwind from the consumer genetics, customer sample management revenue from the rest of our customer base grew on a year-over-year basis in Q2.
Co 19 and risk. Assessment testing products contributed 474,000 of Revenue combined in the second quarter, which was consistent with our guidance. And we completed our exit from the risk assessment testing business during Q2
Ken McGrath: Our GAAP gross margin in the second quarter was 42.1%, and non-GAAP gross margin was 43.2%, which was better than our expectations. GAAP operating expenses in the quarter were $31.2 million, which includes $3.2 million of non-cash stock compensation expense, $751,000 of severance expense, $733,000 of expense related to an increase in the estimated fair value of acquisition-related contingent consideration. Our GAAP operating loss in Q2 was $18 million, and our non-GAAP operating loss was $13.2 million. Looking at our balance sheet, we ended Q2 with zero debt and total cash and cash equivalents of $235 million. Operating cash flow in the second quarter was negative $10 million, which was consistent with our expectations given our investments in the Sherlock platform, the CTNG clinical trial as its first assay, and other innovative products.
our gaap gross margin. In the second quarter was 42.1% and non-gaap gross margin was 43.2%, which was better than our expectations.
Gap. Operating expenses in the quarter were $31.2 million, which includes $3.2 million of non-cash stock compensation expense, $751,000 of severance expense, and $733,000 of expense related to an increase in the estimated fair value of acquisition-related contingent consideration.
Our gaap operating loss in Q2 was 18 million and our non-gaap operating loss was 13.2 million.
Looking at our balance sheet, we ended Q2 with zero debt and total cash and cash equivalents of 235 million.
Operating cash flow in the second quarter was -$10 million, which was consistent with our expectations given our investments in the Sherlock platform, the CTNG clinical trial as its first assay, and other innovative products.
Ken McGrath: Switching to capital deployment, we deployed $5 million during the second quarter to repurchase 1.8 million shares of our common stock. Consistent with our capital deployment strategy, we also continue to evaluate inorganic growth opportunities that would expand our product portfolio, especially with commercialized innovation, and accelerate near-term revenue. Turning to guidance, we are guiding the third quarter revenue of $27 million to $30 million, which includes less than $100,000 of COVID testing revenues. On a sequential basis, our Q3 revenue outlook is influenced by the international order trends in our diagnostic business that Carrie described, as well as the timing of orders from the Together Take Me Home program in the US. Our guidance also assumes continued disruption in ordering patterns from our SMS customer in the consumer genetics industry.
Switching to Capital deployment.
We deployed 5 million dollars during the second quarter to repurchase 1.8 million shares of our common stock.
Consistent with our Capital deployment strategy. We also continue to evaluate inorganic growth opportunities. That would expand our product portfolio, especially with commercialized Innovation and accelerate near-term Revenue.
Of 27 million to 30 million.
Which includes less than 100,000 of coid testing revenues.
On a sequential basis. Our Q3 Revenue Outlook is influenced by the international order. Trends in our diagnostic business that carry described as well as the timing of orders from the together, take me home program in the US
Ken McGrath: This customer represented approximately $4 million of revenue in Q3 2024, and as Carrie mentioned, we don't expect significant revenue from them this year. We expect our gross margin percentage in Q3 to be consistent with the second quarter. As we previewed last quarter, we have substantially completed the transition from external contract manufacturing of our sample management solutions products to our internal capabilities in Pennsylvania. This project was completed months ahead of the expected timeline when we initiated the project in early 2024. We expect that our operating efficiencies from the transition to in-house manufacturing will gradually ramp up in the second half of 2025 and gain additional momentum in 2026, which we can optimize further with increasing volume.
Our guidance also assumes continued disruption in ordering patterns from our SMS. Customer in the consumer genetics industry.
This customer representative approximately 4 million dollars of Revenue in Q3 2024. And as Kerry mentioned, we don't expect significant revenue from them this year.
We expect our gross margin percentage in Q3 to be consistent with the second quarter.
As we previewed last quarter, we have substantially completed the transition from external contract. Manufacturing of our sample Management Solutions products to our internal capabilities in Pennsylvania.
This project was completed months ahead of the expected timeline. When we initiated the project in early 2024,
we expect that our operating efficiencies from the transition to in-house, manufacturing will gradually ramp up in the second half of 2025 and gain additional momentum in 2026, which we can optimize further with increasing volume.
Ken McGrath: Moving to operating expenses, in Q3, we expect core operating expenses of approximately $20 million, plus $10 million of investments in innovation, which includes $7 to $8 million of investments related to Sherlock. With that, I'll turn the call back to Carrie to conclude.
Moving to operating expenses in, Q3 we expect core operating expenses of approximately 20 million plus 10 million of investments in innovation.
Which includes 7 to 8 million dollars of Investments related to Sherlock.
With that, I'll turn the call back to Carrie to conclude.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Thanks, Ken. As we discussed today, we delivered Q2 results that were on the higher end of our guidance range across many key metrics, despite a challenging external environment where uncertainty remains through 2025. That said, we are confident that OTI is positioned to return to growth in 2026 as our end segments and customers adapt to the new normal environment and as we continue to focus on providing differentiated solutions that our customers value, like HEMA Collect protein, as well as exciting new product launches that are on the near-term horizon.
cross, many key metrics despite a challenging external environment where uncertainty remains through 2025
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Our work over the last three years to strengthen our foundation, including fortifying our balance sheet and instilling an enterprise-wide focus on innovating and operating with disciplined execution and accountability, allows us to make investments in new products that we believe can deliver strong returns beginning in 2026, such as our ColiP urine collection, as well as Sherlock low-cost molecular diagnostics. We are focused on deploying our capital for long-term value creation, and we are confident that OTI has the expertise, capabilities, customer relationships, and product roadmap to methodically build a stronger enterprise. With that, I'm pleased to turn the call over to the operator for Q&A. Liz.
That said, we are confident that oti is positioned to return to growth in 2026 as our n segments and customers adapt to the new normal environment. And as we continue to focus on, providing differentiated solutions that our customers value like hemoc protein, as well as exciting. New product launches that are on the near-term horizon.
Our work over the last 3 years, to strengthen our foundation including fortifying our balance sheet and installing an Enterprise wide focus on innovating and operating with disciplined, execution and accountability.
Allows us to make investments in new products that we believe can deliver strong returns beginning in 2026, such as our colleague P urine collection as well as Sherlock low-cost molecular Diagnostics.
We are focused on deploying our capitals for long-term value creation and we are confident that oti has the expertise capabilities, customer relationships, and product roadmap to a methodically build a stronger Enterprise with that. I'm pleased to turn the call over to the operator for Q&A Liz.
Liz: Thank you. As a reminder, if you'd like to ask a question at this time, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Patrick Donnelly with City.
Thank you.
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Patrick Donnelly: Hi, this is Brendan on for Patrick. Thank you for taking my question. I wanted to start on the three-Q guide. Definitely appreciate the color you guys gave there, but I was wondering if you can go into the specifics between like the HIV and HCV platforms. And then on the margin line, if you can go into a little bit more color on like how much more additional leverage you guys can get for 2025, moving the manufacturing in-house?
Hi. This is Brendan on, for Patrick uh thank you for taking my question. Uh, I wanted to start on the 3Q guides, definitely appreciate the call. You guys gave there, but I was wondering if you can go into the specifics between like the HIV and hcv platforms and then on the margin line, if you got to go into a little bit more color on, like how much more additional leverage you guys can get for uh 2025 moving the manufacturing in-house.
Ken McGrath: Yeah, and thank you, Brendan. I'll start with the margins. And as we guided to, we guided to Q3 being relatively consistent with Q2. And what we are expecting now and with the project of transferring or transitioning our manufacturing from in-house, from contract manufacturing, we have substantially completed that transition. And so now we are expecting, as you know, it also depends on volume, volume dependent. We are expecting the benefits of that transition to start in the second half and then ramp up in 2026.
Yes, and thank you Brandon. Um, I'll start with the margins um from and as we guided to, we guided to Q3 being relatively consistent with with Q2 um and what we are expecting now. And and with with project uh of transferring, our transitioning, our manufacturing from um in-house from contract manufacturing. Um, we have substantially completed that transition. And so now we are expecting, as you know, it also depends on volume, volume dependent. We are expecting the benefits of that uh of that transition uh the start in the second half and then ramp up in 2026.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: And then the second part of it is around Q3 revenue. So Brendan, while we don't provide sort of segment guidance, what we would say is, you know, we would call out what we called out in our prepared remarks, which was, you know, the Together Take Me Home change of expectation where we would typically expect a run rate more in the $2 million a quarter range, where what we have in the plan is a half million dollars. You know, we do have the potential for that program to continue. The current appropriations bill that will be voted on in the House has bipartisan support that includes that HIV moving forward. But I don't think that changes, you know, the expectations around Q3. Q3 really is at the volumes we've talked about.
And then the second part of it is around Q3.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: We think that's kind of the line of sight we have, and there is uncertainty beyond that. But we think, you know, with real potential for that program to continue, funding hasn't been shared, but you know, it's definitely a real potential.
You know, we we would call out what we called out in our prepared remarks which was, you know the the together take me home. Um, change of expectation, where we would typically expect a a run rate, more in the $0, uh, a quarter range where what we have in in the plan is a half million dollars. You know, we do have um, and the the potential for that program to continue uh, the current Appropriations bill, that will be voted on in the house has bipartisan support that uh, that that includes that um, HIV moving forward. But I don't think that changes. You know, the the expectations around uh Q3 Q3 really uh is is at the volumes. We've talked about we think that's kind of the line of sight we have and there is uncertainty um beyond that but we think you know with with real potential for that program to continue funding hasn't been shared but um you know it's it's definitely uh
Ken McGrath: And then related, I think you were asking about HIV and HCV. For HCV, we expect that to be relatively stable on a quarter-over-quarter basis. For HIV, for international, we do expect a slower pace of the orders in Q3. As we talked about a little bit of the dynamics in the past calls around some of the disruption from USAID funding, where the disruption was really in the infrastructure portion. And where we saw was that countries were building up inventory, and now they're working through that as they work through and build up that infrastructure again. They're working through the existing inventories. So we do expect a slower pace in Q3 in the second half of the year to kind of bleed through that event.
Real potential. And then related, I think you were asking about HIV and hcv for hcv, we expect that to be relatively stable, um on a quarter over quarter basis for HIV for international. Um, we do expect a slower pace of the orders, um, in in, in Q3, um, as and we talked about a little bit of the Dynamics, in the past calls, um, around some of the disruption from, uh, usaid, um, funding where the disruption was really in the infrastructure portion.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: So it's part international, it's part US, and that's really a big driver of that quarter-over-quarter change.
Um, and and where we saw was that countries were building up inventory and now they're working through that as they work through and and build up that infrastructure again. Um, they're working through the existing inventories. Uh, so we do expect a slower Pace, um, in Q3 in the second half of the year, um, to kind of believe through that, um, that event. So, it's part of international, it's part, uh, us and that's really a big driver, um, of that, you know, quarter over quarter change
Patrick Donnelly: Got it. Thank you. And then also I just wanted to touch on the blood proteomics. Definitely understand that it's early in kind of the launch, but what's kind of the initial traction been like, your feedback from customers been? And then if you can kind of remind us on what are there any specific areas you guys are kind of targeting and what the potential opportunity looks like there? Thanks again.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Yeah, thanks, Brendan. We've had enthusiastic customer engagement around the launch of HEMA Collect protein. You know, as a stabilization device, we think, you know, uniquely positioned to help researchers in the operational efficiency and workflow with stabilizing proteins for up to seven days at room temperature and really high-quality analysis potential on multiple types of technologies, including next-gen proteomics technology. So, you know, this is an emerging space. There are a lot of platform providers making headway in this space as well. And I think, you know, the opportunity here with an RUO launch and research is really to be a part of that exploration. We've called out clinical opportunities that range from oncology, neurology, cardiology, cardiometabolic disorders. And I think the applications are broad because proteomics is so broadly applicable in clinical disease growth and opportunities. So, you know, we think momentum.
Thank you. And then also I just wanted to touch on the blood proteomics definitely know understand that it's early in kind of the launch. But what kind of the initial traction been like your feedback from customers been and then if you could kind of remind us on what are there any specific areas? You guys are kind of targeting and what the potential opportunity looks like there. Thanks again.
Yeah, thanks Brenda. We've had enthusiastic, uh, customer engagement around, uh, the launch of Hema collect protein, you know, as a, as a stabilization device. We think, you know, it's uniquely positioned to help researchers and the operational, uh, efficiency and workflow with stabilizing proteins for up to 7 days at room temperature and really high quality, um, analysis potential on multiple types of Technologies including next-gen, uh, proteomics Technologies. So,
Carrie Eglinton Manner: We've talked about gaining momentum with that product launch into '26, but I think off to a really good start. Thanks, Brendan. Liz.
Yeah, this is an emerging uh, space. There are a lot of platform providers uh, making making uh, Headway in this space as well. And I think, you know, the, the opportunity here with an ruo launch and research is, is really to be a part of that exploration. We've called out, um, clinical opportunities that rain from range from oncology, uh, neurology, Cardiology cardio, metabolic, um, disorders. And I think there's, you know, the applications are broad because proteomics is so, um, you know, broadly applicable in in, you know, clinical, um, disease growth and, and opportunities. So, you know, and we think momentum, we've talked about gaining momentum with, uh, with that product launch, um, into 26. But I think off to a really good start,
Thanks Brandon.
Liz.
Liz: Our next question comes from Andrew Cooper with Raymond James.
Our next question comes from Andrew Cooper with Raymond James.
Patrick Donnelly: Hey, everyone. This is Noah on for Andrew. Just appreciate you taking the question. First question for me, kind of going back to the gross margin thing that Brendan was asking about. In the quarter, you know, you brought things back from Canada, removed things from the external contract manufacturing back into Bethlehem. Was there any impact to, I think you called out packaging improvements, maybe some technological improvements? I don't think you mentioned any volume, but just trying to get some of the moving pieces there because you came in a little above our number this quarter. Was it purely the manufacturing, or was there a little bit more of that play there?
Hey everyone. This is uh, no on for Andrew, just appreciate you taking the question. Um, first question for me, um, kind of going back to the gross margin thing that Brandon was asking about um, in the quarter. You know you brought things back from uh Canada or move things from the external contract manufacturing back into Bethlehem.
Um, was there any impact to? I think you called out packaging improvements. Maybe some techn technological improvements. Um, I don't think you mentioned any volume but just trying to get some of the moving pieces there because you came in a little above our number this quarter, was it purely the the manufacturing or was there a little bit more that play there.
Ken McGrath: It was a combination of some of the manufacturing. So the improvements that we've talked about in prior quarters around packaging, around internalization of reagents, and areas there, a lot of that is volume dependent. And as we ramp up volume, we take advantage of those benefits. But as far as, and those are more long-term opportunities, as again, as the volume ramps up. In this particular quarter, again, like you said, mostly driven by the improvements from manufacturing. We did have a little bit lower scrap in this quarter in Q2 than prior quarters, but you got it on your head. You nailed it on your head there.
Um, they'll get like you said mostly driven by the, uh, the improvements from manufacturing. Um, we did have a little bit lower scrap in in this quarter in Q2, um, than prior quarters. Um, but you you you got it, you nailed it on the head there.
Patrick Donnelly: Okay, awesome. And then, you know, diagnostics came in a little bit better as well versus our numbers. And I know you called out some of the international growth despite the headwinds. I'm just kind of curious, like what are you seeing in the clinical setting? I think you called out in one Q, so how has that trajectory gone? And then also, we just want to know if there's been any like pull forward from tariffs on that end that might be causing a little bit of the strength.
Okay awesome. And then um, you know, Diagnostics came in a little bit better as well, uh, versus our numbers in, I know you called out, um, some of the international growth despite the headwinds. Um, I'm just kind of curious. Like, what are you seeing in the clinical setting? I think you call that and 1 Q. So how is that? Trajectory uh gone. And then also uh we just want to know if there's been any like pull forward from uh tariffs on that. And that might be causing a little bit of the strength.
Ken McGrath: Yeah, from diagnostics, part of it was, Carrie mentioned, Together Take Me Home and some of the timing of the patterns there. And what we are expecting in Q3 is a little bit of a slowdown there for Together Take Me Home. So Q2 saw some of the benefit of pulling ahead there. From international, and we've talked about this in the past, it's a little bit the timing of some of these big orders. And we did see positive timing in Q2. We are expecting a little bit of a slowdown in Q3 in the second half. And as we described earlier with Brendan, part of that is just where the countries, with the disruption, the countries have built up some inventory within, particularly in Africa, and they are now bleeding out that inventory.
Yeah. From Diagnostics. Part of it was Carrie, mentioned together, take me home and some of the timing of, of the patterns there. Um, and, and what we are expecting in, Q3 is a little bit of a Slowdown there for together, take me home. Um, so, Q2, so, some of the benefits of pulling ahead there, um, from International, and we talked about this in the past there, it's a little bit, uh, the timing of some of these big orders. Um, and we did see, uh, timing, uh, positive timing in in Q2. Um, we are expecting a little bit of a Slowdown in Q3 in the second half and, you know, as we described earlier, um, with with Brendan, um, part of that is just where the countries with with the disruption, the countries have built up some inventory, um, within specifically in Africa.
Ken McGrath: So we're seeing a little bit of a slowdown in the second half and then expect somewhat return going forward.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: And the only thing I'd add, Ken hit it right on, but the only thing I'd add is that, you know, we are intentionally expanding across customer types in domestic diagnostics as well to hit more of the clinical healthcare settings, emergency rooms, clinics, and beyond to try and offset, you know, some of the challenges in public health, quite frankly, programs both in the US and international, as well as bringing, you know, the syphilis offering in, which is, you know, our partnership with Diagnostics Direct with Syphilis Health Check and selling that side by side with HIV and HCV. So there's, you know, some momentum, but I'd say those are really the offsets to what have, you know, remained kind of this mixed domestic public health and international public health.
And they are now um, bleeding out that inventory. Um so we're seeing a little bit of a of a Slowdown um in the second half and then expect um, somewhat returned um, going forward.
I'd add Ken hit it right on. But the only thing I'd add is that, you know, we are intentionally expanding across customer types in domestic Diagnostics as well.
To hit more uh, of the clinical. Uh, clinical Health Care settings, emergency rooms, uh, clinics and Beyond to try and Offset, you know, some of the challenges in public health. Um quite frankly programs both in in the US and international as well as uh bringing you know, the simplest offering and uh which is um you know, our our with in partnership, with Diagnostics direct with syphilis health check and uh and selling that side by side with HIV and hcv. So there's there's you know some some momentum but I'd say those are those are really the the offsets to what have you know remains kind of this mixed um domestic public health and international Public Health.
Patrick Donnelly: Awesome. Thank you so much. I'll hop back in the queue.
Awesome. Thank you so much. I'll hop back in the queue.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Thanks, Noah.
Thanks Noah.
Liz: That concludes today's question and answer session. I'd like to turn the call back to Carrie Eglinton Manner for closing remarks.
That concludes today's question and answer session. I'd like to turn the call back to Gary Eglinton manner for closing remarks.
Carrie Eglinton Manner: Thanks, Liz. We just want to thank everyone for participating in today's call and for your continued interest in OTI. And with that, we'll close out. Thank you.
Thanks Liz. We just want to thank everyone for participating in today's call and for your continued interest in oti and with that, we'll close out. Thank you.
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