Q2 2025 GameSquare Holdings Inc Earnings Call

Speaker #1: Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us for the GameSquare Holdings 2025 second quarter conference call. On the call today, we have Justin Kenna, GameSquare CEO; Lou Schwartz, President; and Michael Munoz, CFO.

Operator: Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us for the GameSquare Holdings 2025 second quarter conference call. On the call today, we have Justin Kenna, GameSquare CEO; Lou Schwartz, President; and Michael Munoz, CFO. During the call, all participants are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. Before management discusses the results, I'd like to remind everyone that certain statements in this call may be forward-looking in nature. These include statements involving known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in our forward-looking statements. For information about forward-looking statements and risk factors, please see our 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2025, which will be available on the company's website or with the Securities and Exchange Commission. I will now turn the call over to GameSquare CEO, Justin Kenna.

Speaker #1: During the call, all participants are in listen-only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Before management discusses the results, I'd like to remind everyone that certain statements in this call may be forward-looking in nature.

Speaker #1: These include statements involving known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in a forward-looking statement.

Speaker #1: For information about forward-looking statements and risk factors, please see our 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2025, which will be available on the company's website or with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Speaker #1: I will now turn the call over to GameSquare CEO, Justin Kenna. Justin, please go ahead.

Operator: Justin, please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Thank you, and good afternoon. To everyone joining us on today's call, 2025 is on track to be a transformative year for GameSquare as we aggressively execute against a bold, vision-aimed at building a leading digital-first platform at the intersection of media, technology, gaming, and on-chain finance.

Justin Kenna: Thank you, and good afternoon to everyone joining us on today's call. 2025 is on track to be a transformative year for GameSquare as we aggressively execute against a bold vision aimed at building a leading digital-first platform at the intersection of media, technology, gaming, and on-chain finance. While our roots are in media, technology, and gaming, and those businesses continue to deliver strong revenue and operational performance, we have also recently launched a differentiated crypto-native treasury management strategy. Since its official launch in July using the August 13, 2025 closing price, our treasury strategy has already generated over $19 million in unrealized gains, and we now hold 18,630 ETH with a current market value of $74.3 million. We believe GameSquare is one of only a few companies globally that combines a proven high-performing operating business with a large-scale actively managed Ethereum treasury.

Speaker #2: While our roots are in media, technology, and gaming, and those businesses continue to deliver strong revenue and operational performance, we have also recently launched a differentiated crypto-native treasury management strategy.

Speaker #2: Since its official launch in July, using the August 13, 2025 closing price, our treasury strategy has already generated over $19 million in unrealized gains.

Speaker #2: And we now hold $15,630 ETH, with a current market value of $74.3 million. We believe GameSquare is one of only a few companies globally that combines a proven high-performing operating business with a large-scale, actively managed Ethereum treasury.

Speaker #2: This unique model positions us to capture meaningful appreciation and yield from our crypto strategy while leveraging the financial and operating performance of our core businesses.

Justin Kenna: This unique model positions us to capture meaningful appreciation and yield from our crypto strategy while leveraging the financial and operating performance of our core businesses. Our operating businesses and on-chain treasury management strategy are complementary. In fact, our growing on-chain presence is beginning to fuel new opportunities in our operating business, creating the potential for a powerful growth flywheel. Our strategy is also designed to smooth the volatility of the crypto market by balancing it with consistent diversified revenue streams. Over time, the cash flow and value creation from our treasury activities are expected to fund additional ETH purchases, opportunistic share repurchases, and reinvestment in our core businesses. With over $71.5 million in trailing 12-month revenue and a scalable on-chain model built for both growth and resilience, this structure sets GameSquare apart and creates an extremely compelling value proposition for our shareholders.

Speaker #2: Our operating businesses and on-chain treasury management strategy are complementary. In fact, our growing on-chain presence is beginning to fuel new opportunities in our operating business, creating the potential for a powerful growth flywheel.

Speaker #2: Our strategy is also designed to smooth the volatility of the crypto market by balancing it with consistent, diversified revenue streams. Over time, the cash flow and value creation from our treasury activities are expected to fund additional ETH purchases, opportunistic share repurchases, and reinvestment in our core businesses.

Speaker #2: With over $71.5 million in trailing 12-month revenue and a scalable on-chain model built for both growth and resilience, this structure sets GameSquare apart and creates an extremely compelling value proposition for our shareholders.

Speaker #2: So, with this, I'll jump into our operating performance before I share our early observations from the launch of our treasury management strategy in the third quarter.

Justin Kenna: And with this, I'll jump into our operating performance before I share our early observations from the launch of our treasury management strategy in the third quarter. As we stated on our first quarter earnings call, our priorities this year are focused on achieving profitability, streamlining operations, and driving higher margin revenue opportunities across our core media, technology, and gaming businesses. I'm pleased with our progress. On a consolidated basis, we've reduced CNA expenses by 15% and expanded gross margin by 120 basis points, driving a 16% improvement in adjusted EBITDA year over year. Additional restructuring efforts are underway, and we've identified a further $5 million in annualized savings that are expected to begin contributing in the third quarter. We also anticipate stronger gross margin in the second half of the year, supported by higher seasonal revenue and a more profitable mix of business.

Speaker #2: As we stated on our first quarter earnings call, our priorities this year are focused on achieving profitability, streamlining operations, and driving higher margin revenue opportunities across our core media, technology, and gaming businesses.

Speaker #2: I'm pleased with our progress on a consolidated basis; we've reduced our C&A expenses by 15% and expanded gross margin by $120 basis points, driving a 16% improvement in adjusted EBITDA year-over-year.

Speaker #2: Additional restructuring efforts are underway, and we've identified a further $5 million in annualized savings that are expected to begin contributing in the third quarter.

Speaker #2: We also anticipate stronger gross margin in the second half of the year, supported by higher seasonal revenue and a more profitable mix of business.

Speaker #2: During the second quarter, we completed the divestiture of Phase Media, selling our remaining 25.5% stake back to its founders. This values Phase Media at over $39 million compared to our original $14 million stock-based acquisition of both Phase Esports and Phase Media. This further simplifies our business while reducing working capital requirements.

Justin Kenna: During the second quarter, we completed the Vestiture of Phase Media, selling our remaining 25.5% stake back to its founders. This valued Phase Media at over $39 million compared to our original $14 million stock-based acquisition of both Phase Esports and Phase Media, and further simplifies our business while reducing working capital requirements. Today, GameSquare operates across four focus areas: BATH and managed services, agency and media, owned and operated IP, and Phase Clan Esports. We believe this differentiated end-to-end platform enables deep partnerships with top game publishers and global brands. Our reach into gaming and Gen Z audiences is unmatched, and as brands compete for share in a challenging economic environment, we are confident in our ability to grow organically, supported by recent partnerships and a robust sales pipeline.

Speaker #2: Today, GameSquare operates across four focus areas: SaaS and managed services, agency and media, owned and operated IP, and phase client esports. We believe this differentiated end-to-end platform enables deep partnerships with top game publishers and global brands.

Speaker #2: Our reach into gaming and Gen Z audiences is unmatched. And as brands compete for share in a challenging economic environment, we are confident in our ability to grow organically, supported by recent partnerships and a robust sales pipeline.

Speaker #2: While consolidated revenue in the second quarter was slightly below expectation, due to extended closing timelines and several large deals, we're entering the seasonally strongest part of our year with significant momentum.

Justin Kenna: While consolidated revenue in the second quarter was slightly below expectation due to extended closing timelines and several last deals, we're entering the seasonally strongest part of our year with significant momentum. The demand environment in our agency business is accelerating. Our pipeline is as strong as it's been all year, and many of the opportunities that shifted out of Q2 are now on track to close in the coming months. We expect meaningful sequential growth with Q3 revenue higher than Q2, and Q4 building further on that growth, supported by both new wins and expansion with existing partners. This momentum positions us for a powerful finish to 2025 and a strong launch into 2026. We are also advancing multiple growth initiatives across the portfolio, including scaling our managed services business, launching new products, and expanding owned and operated relationships.

Speaker #2: The demand environment in our agency business is accelerating, a pipeline is as strong as it's been all year, and many of the opportunities that shifted out of Q2 are now on track to close in the coming months.

Speaker #2: We expect meaningful sequential growth with Q3 revenue higher than Q2, and Q4 building further on that growth, supported by both new wins and expansion with existing partners.

Speaker #2: This momentum positions us for a powerful finish to 2025, and a strong launch into 2026. We are also advancing multiple growth initiatives across the portfolio, including scaling our managed services business, launching new products, and expanding owned and operated relationships.

Speaker #2: Highlights here include StreamHatchet, China's largest contract to date, supporting the launch of Monster Hunter Wilds, this week, and also announcing a new managed services agreement with Ubisoft, to support the launch of Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege.

Justin Kenna: Highlights here include StreamHatchet, signing its largest contract to date, supporting the launch of Monster Hunter Wilds. This week, it also announced a new managed services agreement with Ubisoft to support the launch of Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege. These wins underscore StreamHatchet's transformation from a pure data analytics provider into a full-service marketing engine, delivering measurable value for customers on a global scale. During the quarter, StreamHatchet launched a proprietary AI-based solution that helps game publishers, global brands, and agencies connect with Gen Z and millennial audiences across leading live streaming and social platforms. This engine uses machine learning to decode creative content, audience sentiment, and engagement patterns, enabling brands to identify high-performing influencers and design campaigns with surgical precision. Within GameSquare Experiences, we've launched a collegiate esports program to engage campuses nationwide in partnership with a national retail chain.

Speaker #2: These wins underscore StreamHatchet's transformation from a pure data analytics provider into a full-service marketing engine delivering measurable value for customers on a global scale.

Speaker #2: During the quarter, StreamHatchet launched a proprietary AI-based solution that helps game publishers global brands and agencies connect with Gen Z and Millennial audiences, across leading live streaming and social platforms.

Speaker #2: This engine uses machine learning to decode created content, audience sentiment, and engagement patterns, enabling brands to identify high-performing influencers and design campaigns with surgical precision.

Speaker #2: Within GameSquare experiences, we've launched a collegiate esports program to engage campuses nationwide in partnership with a national retail chain. In July, GameSquare experiences successfully produced and managed 100 Thieves Summer Block Party, further showcasing our ability to execute large-scale, high-profile events.

Justin Kenna: In July, GameSquare Experiences successfully produced a managed 100th Eve summer block party, further showcasing our ability to execute large-scale, high-profile events. Importantly, the strength of our operating momentum complements our on-chain treasury strategy. The same relationships, reach, and capabilities driving wins in media, technology, and gaming are opening doors with crypto-native companies that see value in our expertise and our access to audience. We are currently in active discussions with more than 15 crypto-native organizations, representing eight figures of potential deal value that are seeking partners with proven capabilities to help them reach and engage audiences at scale. GameSquare's established operating platform positions us uniquely to meet this demand. We believe these relationships will not only deepen our presence in the on-chain ecosystem, but also generate incremental high-margin revenue streams.

Speaker #2: Importantly, the strength of our operating momentum complements our on-chain treasury strategy. The same relationships reach and capabilities driving wins in media, technology, and gaming are opening doors with crypto-native companies that see value in our expertise and our access to audience.

Speaker #2: We are currently in active discussions with more than 15 crypto-native organizations, representing eight figures of potential deal value that are seeking partners with proven capabilities to help them reach and engage audiences at scale.

Speaker #2: GameSquare has established operating platform positions us uniquely to meet this demand. We believe these relationships will not only deepen our presence in the on-chain ecosystem, but also generate incremental high-margin revenue streams.

Speaker #2: Based on our current pipeline, we expect initial wins to begin in the third quarter, like our recently announced $2.5 million agency of record win with Azuki.

Justin Kenna: Based on our current pipeline, we expect initial wins to begin in the third quarter, like our recently announced $2.5 million agency and record win with Azuki, and building further into the fourth quarter, creating another powerful growth driver for our business. That operating momentum makes this the perfect time to review our emerging on-chain treasury strategy, which we officially launched on July 1. Our goal is straightforward: to build one of the most sophisticated yield-generating Ethereum strategies of any public company, and to do so alongside a high-performing operating platform. Unlike pure crypto plays, our model is designed to compound value while buffering against volatility. We are pursuing a three-pronged crypto-native growth strategy, which includes, firstly, an Ethereum-based treasury strategy through Dialytic's on-chain yield platform, targeting annualized yields of 8% to 14%. This kicked off, and we're excited to provide yield results at the end of the month.

Speaker #2: And building further into the fourth quarter, creating another powerful growth driver for our business. Our operating momentum makes this the perfect time to review our emerging on-chain treasury strategy.

Speaker #2: Which we officially launched on July 1. Our goal is straightforward: to build one of the most sophisticated yield-generating Ethereum strategies of any public company and to do so alongside a high-performing operating platform.

Speaker #2: Unlike pure crypto plays, our model is designed to compound value while buffering against volatility. We are pursuing a three-pronged crypto-native growth strategy, which includes firstly, an Ethereum-based treasury strategy through dialectics on-chain yield platform targeting annualized yields of 8 to 14%.

Speaker #2: This kicked off, and we're excited to provide yield results at the end of the month. Secondly, our financialized art and culture asset strategy looks to acquire culturally significant digital assets and NFTs, targeting 6% to 10% annualized stablecoin yields.

Justin Kenna: Secondly is our financialized art and culture asset strategy that looks to acquire culturally significant digital assets and NFTs, targeting 6% to 10% annualized stablecoin yields. And third and finally, a Web3 operating strategy, leveraging GameSquare's creative agency and gaming businesses to help crypto-native organizations grow global audiences while also adding high-potential digital assets and yield opportunities to our treasury. This has already resulted in $2.5 million of high-margin revenue for the back half of the year through our agency and record deal with Azuki. The cash flow and appreciation from these activities are intended to fund additional ETH purchases, return capital to shareholders through buybacks, and reinvest in our operating business, creating a self-reinforcing cycle of growth across both pillars of our company. We have built a dedicated on-chain platform supported by best-in-class infrastructure and guided by proven leaders in the crypto and DeFi space.

Speaker #2: And third and finally, a Web3 operating strategy leveraging GameSquare's creative agency and gaming businesses to help crypto-native organizations grow global audiences while also adding high-potential digital assets and yield opportunities to our treasury.

Speaker #2: This has already resulted in $2.5 million of high-margin revenue for the back half of the year for our agency of record deal with Azuki.

Speaker #2: The cash flow and appreciation from these activities are intended to fund additional ETH purchases, return capital to shareholders through buybacks, and reinvest in our operating business, creating a self-reinforcing cycle of growth across both pillars of our company.

Speaker #2: We have built a dedicated on-chain platform supported by best-in-class infrastructure and guided by proven leaders in the crypto and DeFi space. This includes a team of dialectic who bring deep expertise in structuring, managing, and optimizing institutional-grade on-chain portfolios.

Justin Kenna: This includes a team at Dialytic who bring deep expertise in structuring, managing, and optimizing institutional-grade on-chain portfolios. Our strategy is also supported by seasoned advisors such as Ryan Zurah of Dialytic, Robert Lessner of SuperState, and Ryden Lee of Goth Capital, all of whom have been instrumental in refining our portfolio construction, risk management, and yield generation strategies. This platform allows us to actively manage our ETH holdings in real time, identify high conviction opportunities, and move capital efficiently across strategies. Importantly, the systems we've put in place are built for scale, enabling us to increase capital deployment as our treasury grows while maintaining robust oversight and compliance controls. Although still in its early days, our on-chain strategy has already begun to generate meaningful results.

Speaker #2: Our strategy is also supported by seasoned advisors such as Ryan Zura of Dialectic, Robert Lessner of Superstate, and Ryan Lee of Golf Capital, all of whom have been instrumental in refining our portfolio construction, risk management, and yield generation strategies.

Speaker #2: This platform allows us to actively manage our ETH holdings in real time, identify high conviction opportunities, and move capital efficiently across strategies. Importantly, the systems we put in place are built for scale, enabling us to increase capital deployment as our treasury grows while maintaining robust oversight and compliance controls.

Speaker #2: Although still in its early days, our on-chain strategy has already begun to generate meaningful results. As of August 13, 2025, we held 15,630 ETH with an original cost basis of $55 million and a market value of $74.3 million.

Justin Kenna: As of August 13, 2025, we held 15,630 ETH with an original cost basis of $55 million and a market value of $74.3 million, reflecting an average cost per ETH of approximately $3,519 and a market price of $4,751. We own one of only 24 ETH crypto punks in existence, acquired on July 24, 2025, for $5.15 million or 1,084 ETH. Our NFT yield strategy, managed by One of One, is targeting annualized yields of 6% to 10%. On August 1, we funded our yield strategy with Dialytic that is currently tracking within our targeted 8% to 14% annualized return range. As of August 13, 2025, our ETH, NFT, and cash totaled $99.4 million, or $1 per share, with total debt of just over $1 million. As you can see, GameSquare has never been in a stronger financial position.

Speaker #2: Reflecting an average cost per ETH of approximately $3,590 and a market price of $4,751, we own one of only 24 CryptoPunks in existence, acquired on July 24, 2025, for $5.15 million, or 1,084 ETH.

Speaker #2: Our NFT yield strategy managed by One of One is targeting annualized yields of 6 to 10%. On August 1, we funded our yield strategy with Dialectic that is currently tracking within our targeted 8 to 14% annualized return range.

Speaker #2: As of August 13, 2025, our ETH NFT and cash totaled $99.4 million. Or $1 per share. With total debt of just over $1 million.

Speaker #2: As you can see, GameSquare has never been in a stronger financial position. This strength provides significant flexibility to pursue strategic invest initiatives investing our operating platform and return capital to shareholders.

Justin Kenna: This strength provides significant flexibility to pursue strategic invest initiatives, invest in our operating platform, and return capital to shareholders. Reflecting this confidence, our board of directors has approved a share repurchase program, authorizing the company to buy back up to $5 million of our common stock. The program will be funded directly from the net proceeds of our on-chain yield strategy, ensuring that our treasury activities directly translate into shareholder value creation. And with this overview, I'd like to turn the call over to Mike to review our 2025 second quarter financial results. Mike.

Speaker #2: Reflecting this confidence, our board of directors has approved a shared repurchase program, authorizing the company to buy back up to $5 million of our common stock.

Speaker #2: The program will be funded directly from the net proceeds of our on-chain yield strategy, ensuring that our treasury activities directly translate into shareholder value creation.

Speaker #2: So, with this overview, I’d like to turn the call over to Mike to review our Q2 2025 financial results. Mike.

Speaker #3: Thanks, Justin. It's important to note that our second quarter financial results do not reflect the July launch of our treasury management strategy. The contribution of this strategy will begin to be reflected in our financial results starting in the third quarter.

Michael Munoz: Thanks, Justin. It's important to note that our second quarter financial results do not reflect the July launch of our treasury management strategy. The contribution of this strategy will begin to be reflected in our financial results starting in the third quarter. Comparing our 2025 second quarter reported results to the prior year, total revenue was $15.8 million compared to $17.8 million. The 11% year-over-year decline in revenue was primarily due to a reduction in programmatic advertising revenue, partially offset by growth across our other business segments. Gross margin for the 2025 second quarter was $2.4 million or 15.3% of sales, compared to $2.5 million or 14.1% of sales for the same period last year. We expect gross margin to improve going forward, supported by a more profitable revenue mix in 2025 and additional actions underway to improve gross margin.

Speaker #3: Comparing our 2025 second quarter reported results to the prior year total revenue was $15.8 million, compared to $17.8 million. The 11% year-over-year decline in revenue was primarily due to a reduction in programmatic advertising revenue, partially offset by growth across our other business segments.

Speaker #3: Gross margin for the 2025 second quarter was $2.4 million, or $15.3% of sales. Compared to $2.5 million, or $14.1% of sales, for the same period last year.

Speaker #3: We expect gross margin to improve going forward, supported by a more profitable revenue mix in 2025. And additional actions underway to improve gross margin.

Speaker #3: Adjusted EBITDA loss for the 2025 second quarter was $3.5 million, compared to a loss of $4.2 million last year. And a loss of $3.0 million for the first quarter of 2025.

Michael Munoz: Adjusted EBITDA loss for the 2025 second quarter was $3.5 million, compared to a loss of $4.2 million last year and a loss of $3.0 million for the first quarter of 2025. Before I turn the call back over to Justin, I want to quickly review some balance sheet items after the second quarter that take into account our recent equity offerings, on-chain purchases, and debt repayments. As of August 13, 2025, GameSquare had approximately 99 million common shares outstanding, cash and cash equivalents of $20 million, on-chain treasury assets of $79.4 million, total debt of $1.25 million, and a market cap to net asset value ratio of 0.92 times. As you can see, GameSquare has a strong financial position with excellent liquidity to pursue strategic initiatives, invest in our operating platform, and return capital to shareholders. So with this overview, I'll turn the call back over to Justin.

Speaker #3: Before I turn the call back over to Justin, I want to quickly review some balance sheet items after the second quarter that take into account our recent equity offerings on-chain purchases and debt repayments.

Speaker #3: As of August 13, 2025, GameSquare had approximately $99 million common shares outstanding, cash and cash equivalents of $20 million, on-chain treasury assets of $79.4 million, total debt of $1.25 million, and a market cap to net asset value ratio of 0.92 times.

Speaker #3: As you can see, GameSquare has strong financial position with excellent liquidity to pursue strategic initiatives invest in our operating platform and return capital to shareholders.

Speaker #3: So, with this overview, I'll turn the call back over to Justin.

Speaker #2: Thanks, Mike. As a result of the strong performance since the launch on July 1, 2025, of our Ethereum-based treasury strategy, and continued restructuring initiatives aimed at streamlining operations and accelerating the path to profitability, we plan to reintroduce full-year guidance in the third quarter of 2025.

Justin Kenna: Thanks, Mike. As a result of the strong performance since the launch on July 1, 2025, of our Ethereum-based treasury strategy and continued restructuring initiatives aimed at streamlining operations and accelerating the path to profitability, we plan to reintroduce full-year guidance in the third quarter of 2025. That said, I want to provide investors with the following assumptions that we believe will add some insight into why we expect the second half of 2025 to be meaningfully stronger. As we've discussed, we launched our Ethereum yield strategy on August 1, which is targeting annualized on-chain yields of 8% to 14%. Approximately 60% of 2025 revenue is expected to be generated in the second half of the year, in line with typical seasonal trends. We expect revenue growth combined with a more profitable mix of revenue will further improve consolidated gross margin in the second half of the year.

Speaker #2: That said, I want to provide investors with the following assumptions that we believe will add some insight into why we expect a second half of 2025 to be meaningfully stronger.

Speaker #2: As we've discussed, we launched our Ethereum yield strategy on August 1, which is targeting annualized on-chain yields of 8 to 14%. Approximately 60% of 2025 revenue is expected to be generated in the second half of the year, in line with typical seasonal trends.

Speaker #2: We expect revenue growth combined with a more profitable mix of revenue will further improve consolidated gross margin in the second half of the year.

Speaker #2: Opportunities that shifted out of the second quarter are now on track to close in the coming months. We expect meaningful sequential growth, with third quarter revenue higher than second quarter, and fourth quarter building further on that growth.

Justin Kenna: Opportunities that shifted out of the second quarter are now on track to close in the coming months. We expect meaningful sequential growth with third quarter revenue higher than second quarter, and fourth quarter building firmly on that growth, supported by both new wins and expansion with existing partners. We expect additional wins in the crypto space, like the $2.5 million recently announced Azuki deal, to continue that were not modeled into our original numbers. Ongoing restructuring initiatives are expected to lower operating expenses in the second half of 2025, with approximately $5 million of additional annualized savings expected by the end of the third quarter. Taken together, the strength of our operating platform, the seasonally stronger revenue mix, our ongoing expense discipline, and a contribution from our on-chain treasury strategy give us confidence in a significantly improved performance in the back half of the year.

Speaker #2: Supported by both new wins and expansion with existing partners, we expect additional wins in the crypto space, like the recently announced $2.5 million Azuki deal, to continue that we’re not modeled into our original numbers.

Speaker #2: Ongoing restructuring initiatives are expected to lower operating expenses in the second half of 2025, with approximately $5 million of additional annualized savings expected by the end of the third quarter.

Speaker #2: Taken together, the strength of our operating platform, the seasonally stronger revenue mix, our ongoing expense discipline, and the contribution from our on-chain treasury strategy gives us confidence in a significantly improved performance in the back half of the year.

Speaker #2: GameSquare is building what we believe is a category-defining model that combines a high-performance operating platform with one of the most sophisticated actively managed Ethereum treasuries in the public markets.

Justin Kenna: GameSquare is building what we believe is a category-defining model that combines a high-performance operating platform with one of the most sophisticated, actively managed Ethereum treasuries in the public markets. Our dual strategy is designed to deliver growth, yield, and appreciation while providing the resilience to outperform across market cycles. We are focused on expanding our reach profitably into traditional and on-chain economies and translate this advantage into meaningful, lasting shareholder value. We believe the second half of 2025 will show the full potential of what our platform can deliver. And with this overview, Lou, Mike, and I are happy to take questions. Operator, please open the call to questions. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Our deal strategy is designed to deliver growth, yield, and appreciation while providing the resilience to outperform across market cycles. We are focused on expanding our reach profitably into traditional and on-chain economies and translating this advantage into meaningful lasting shareholder value.

Speaker #2: We believe the second half of 2025 will show the full potential of what our platform can deliver. So, with this overview, Lou, Mike, and I are happy to take questions, operator, please open the call to questions.

Speaker #2: Thank you.

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Speaker #4: Great, good afternoon, Justin, Lou, and Mike. Congrats on the early progress and success with that Ethereum treasury strategy. You know, I wanted to just kind of follow up on your, I guess, revenue performance in terms of, you know, a little lighter than you expected.

Greg Gubbs: Great. Good afternoon, Justin, Lou, and Mike. Congrats on the early progress and success with that Ethereum treasury strategy. You know, I wanted to just kind of follow up on your, I guess, revenue performance in terms of, you know, a little lighter than you expected. Could you provide maybe a little bit more color on what may be panned out differently than expected and simply, you know, was it kind of deal timing or were there other impacts? And I appreciate the comments on kind of the expectations into the back half.

Speaker #4: Could you provide maybe a little bit more color on what maybe panned out differently than expected and simply you know, was it kind of deal timing or were there other impacts?

Speaker #4: And I appreciate the comments on kind of the expectations into the back half.

Speaker #2: Yeah, absolutely. Thank you, Greg. I think there's three main factors in Q2 which I think the most sort of pleasing you know, most pleasing factor of that is that there's sort of, you know, macro-related and that these deals are very much on the table.

Justin Kenna: Yeah, absolutely. Thank you, Greg. I think there's three main factors in Q2, which I think the most sort of pleasing, you know, most pleasing factor of that is that they're sort of macro-related and that these deals are very much on the table. So I would say number one was really, you know, the effect of the tariffs. I think that, you know, we had two sort of large deals with global gaming companies that are headquartered in China. These were multi-year seven-figure deals. They haven't gone away, but they certainly slowed down. And, you know, one that we were expecting to paper, you know, in short order, that was certainly slowed down by, I think, the confusion that, you know, some of the announcements around tariffs, you know, created.

Speaker #2: So, I would say number one was really, you know, the effect of the tariff. I think that, you know, we had two sort of large deals with global gaming companies that are headquartered in China.

Speaker #2: These were multi-year seven-figure deals. Now, they haven't gone away, but they certainly slowed down and you know, one that we were expecting to paper you know, in short order that was certainly slowed down by I think the confusion that you know, some of the announcements around tariffs you know, created.

Speaker #2: And I certainly think that, you know, from an advertising and sort of agency perspective, I do think that there was sort of some pain felt, you know, across those segments.

Justin Kenna: And I certainly think that, you know, from an advertising and sort of agency perspective, you know, I do think that there was sort of some pain felt, you know, across those segments. So certainly, you know, we weren't isolated there. I think the pleasing part of that is that, you know, these deals are very much on the table. We've got real inventory. You know, I hate to sort of continue to use the word pipeline because, you know, these deals are translating into real revenue. And again, you know, I touch on sort of the Azuki deal that we just announced. It's $2.5 million of really high margin revenue that wasn't even factored into the model at all. So feel really good about Q3 and Q4 revenue. Q2 a little softer for sure. So I think one, certainly kind of the tariff, you know, announcements.

Speaker #2: So certainly, you know, we weren't isolated there. I think the pleasing part of that is that, you know, these deals are very much on the table.

Speaker #2: We've got real inventory you know, sort of continue to use the word pipeline because you know, these deals are translating into real revenue. And again, you know, I've touched on sort of the Azuki deal that we just announced you know, it's two and a half million dollars of really high margin revenue that wasn't even factored into the model at all.

Speaker #2: So still really good about Q3 and Q4 revenue. Q2 a little softer for sure. So I think one certainly kind of the tariff you know, announcements I'd say number two was a sort of a slowdown in our programmatic advertising revenue.

Justin Kenna: I'd say number two was a sort of slowdown in our programmatic advertising revenue. This is a part of the business. I think we've been pretty vocal about it. It's been really low margin sort of revenue for us. And, you know, when we talk about being a next-generation media company, you know, certainly our focus is not on, you know, programmatic advertising. We're really focused on a map-building business, connecting brands authentically with these audiences, large-scale campaigns, really high margin areas of our business. And that really, I think you'll see a continued focus there. So certainly kind of from a top-line perspective. But what I think you will see in the back half of the year is really material margin growth. So certainly, you know, top-line came off a little bit. But again, I think if you look year on year, there is adjusted EBITDA improvement.

Speaker #2: This is a part of the business. I think we've been pretty vocal about it. It's you know, it's been really low margin sort of revenue for us.

Speaker #2: And you know, when we talk about being a next-generation media company, you know, certainly our focus is not on you know, programmatic advertising. We're really focused on a map-building business, connecting brands authentically with these audiences, large-scale campaigns, really high margin areas of our business.

Speaker #2: And that really, I think you'll see a continued focus there. So certainly kind of from a top-line perspective. But what I think you will see in the back half of the year is really material margin growth.

Speaker #2: So certainly, you know, top-line came off a little bit. But again, I think if you look year on year, there is adjusted EBITDA improvement.

Speaker #2: And to kind of touch on that, Greg, because I think I think that's really key, right, is if you think about you know, that EBITDA piece, right, into Q3, and how you kind of get to profitability, right?

Justin Kenna: And to kind of touch on that, Greg, because I think I think that's really key, right, is if you think about, you know, that EBITDA piece, right, into Q3 and how you kind of get to profitability, right, if you're looking at a burn of just sort of over $1 million a month, you know, I think if you look at, and this isn't even sort of taking into account the increase in revenue and margin, which we expect, but just from sort of that $5 million of annualized, you know, restructuring costs, you know, if you take into account that and even just the sort of yield off our current Ethereum strategy, you're already sort of at break even, right, before you even look at kind of that revenue growth. So, you know, we feel really good about the operating business.

Speaker #2: If you're looking at a burn of just sort of over a million dollars a month, you know, I think if you look at, and this isn't even sort of taking into account the increase in revenue and margin, which we expect, but just from sort of that $5 million of annualized you know, restructuring costs you know, if you take into account that and even just the sort of yield off our current Ethereum strategy, you're already sort of at break even, right, before you even look at kind of that revenue growth.

Speaker #2: So you know, we feel really good about the operating business. I think you know, third factor is really just you know, a renewed sort of focus on this crypto space.

Justin Kenna: I think, you know, third factor is really just, you know, a renewed sort of focus on this crypto space. I think that we kind of touched on the pipeline there, but there are 15-plus active conversations going on. And this is not a pivot in terms of our services. So I'd really note that. I think that we're just seeing a lot of inbound, right, from these blockchain gaming companies, exchanges, wallets, neobanks that are all wanting to reach youth audience at scale. They're all wanting to reach these traditional gaming audiences. And so we're seeing a huge amount of inbound there. So, yeah, just to sort of summarize, I'd say some macro factors with tariffs, certainly, you know, a bit of a slowdown in programmatic revenue. But again, you know, year-on-year EBITDA improvement, wing over the jobs not done by any extent.

Speaker #2: I think that we kind of touched on the pipeline there, but there are 15 plus active conversations going on. This is not a pivot in terms of our services.

Speaker #2: So I'd really note that. I think that we're just seeing a lot of inbound, right, from these blockchain gaming companies, exchanges, wallets, neobanks that are all wanting to reach youth audience at scale.

Speaker #2: They're all wanting to reach these you know, traditional gaming audiences. And so we're seeing a huge amount of huge amount of inbound there. So yeah, just to sort of summarize, I'd say it's a macro factors, with tariffs, certainly you know, a bit of a slowdown programmatic revenue, but again, you know, year on year EBITDA improvement.

Speaker #2: We know the job's not done by any extent, but I think there's a really clear path here to profitability. And that's not to sort of you know, we're not just looking at you know, our unrealized gains on Ethereum, right, which is you know, as we talked about $19 million you know, we're trading currently you know, below cash and Ethereum.

Justin Kenna: But I think there's a really clear path here to profitability. And that's not to sort of, you know, we're not just looking at, you know, our unrealized gains on Ethereum, right, which is, you know, as we talked about, $19 million, you know, we're trading currently, you know, below cash and Ethereum. So, yeah, we certainly think there's significant upside, but, you know, we certainly think just from an operating standpoint that we'll be getting to profitability in the near term.

Speaker #2: So yeah, we certainly think there's significant upside, but you know, we certainly think just from an operating standpoint that we'll be getting to profitability in the near term.

Speaker #4: Yeah, great. I really appreciate the detailed color there. It does make sense to kind of beam it to a follow-up question as well.

Greg Gubbs: Yeah, great. Really appreciate the detailed color there. And it does make sense to kind of beat me to a follow-up question as well. But I guess I'll just ask too on, you know, you mentioned the 15-plus active conversations in the crypto space. That's exciting. I'm wondering if you could maybe characterize the timing of those opportunities. Like, could you say those are longer term or could those be contributors in the back half? And I guess just secondly or lastly, as it relates to your guidance, like, do you have a sense of the timing on when you're, is it just getting a better sense of the treasury strategy and how that's trending? And I'm sorry. And I guess if I could throw in another one, just in terms of the incremental restructuring, maybe where you expect to derive those savings from in the business.

Speaker #4: But I guess I'll just ask too on you know, you mentioned the 15 plus active conversations in the crypto space. That's exciting. Wondering if you could maybe characterize the timing of those opportunities.

Speaker #4: Like, could you say that a longer term, or could those be contributors in the back half? And I guess just secondly or lastly, as it relates to your guidance, like, do you have a sense of the timing on when you're is it just getting a better sense of the treasury strategy and how that's trending?

Speaker #4: And I’m sorry, and I guess if I could throw in another one, just in terms of the incremental restructuring, maybe where you expect to derive those savings from in the business.

Speaker #2: Yeah, absolutely. So fitting there, I'd say we'll touch on sort of the restructuring first, and we can go backwards from there. On the restructuring front, we've been talking about for some time really consolidating our technology platforms, being StreamHatchet and Psychics. We've made some really big strides there.

Justin Kenna: Yeah, absolutely. So a bit in there, I'd say we'll touch on sort of the restructuring first, and we can go backwards from there. On the restructuring front, we've been talking about for some time really consolidating our technology platforms, Extreme Hatchet and Psychics. We've made some really big strides there. We've continued to pull out efficiencies within the business. We've obviously integrated engine gaming and then Phase Clan over the past two years. And we've been continuing to look at efficiency. So really just around streamlining our offering. And I think you'll see that sort of net effect of that in Q3 and Q4. And we're going to be operating sort of really efficiently. And so I think from that point, it's really about, one, hitting profitability and, two, obviously scaling from there. I think that we can really hit operational efficiency from there.

Speaker #2: We've continued to pull out efficiencies within the business. You know, we've obviously integrated Engine Gaming and then Phase Client over the past, you know, two years.

Speaker #2: And you know, we've been continuing to look at efficiencies. So really just around streamlining our offering, and you know, I think you'll see that sort of net effect of that in Q3 and Q4.

Speaker #2: And we're going to be you know, operating sort of really efficiently. And so I think from that point, it's really about one, hitting profitability, and two, obviously scaling from there.

Speaker #2: You know, I think that we can really hit operational efficiency from there. And again, you know, really see scale into 2026. In terms of the sort of crypto revenue category, it's been an interesting one.

Justin Kenna: And again, you know, really see scale into 2026. In terms of the sort of crypto revenue category, it's been an interesting one. I think it's certainly been one, you know, we've been involved in this space for some time. And we've certainly been, you know, on the sidelines sort of watching as these treasury strategies have appeared. And, you know, we certainly looked at it from a perspective of we're not in an arms race here with BitMine and others to own the most Ethereum. Like, we, one, believe that our sort of strategy is really differentiated by the fact that we have an exclusive partnership with Dialytic. From a public company standpoint, that is an exclusive relationship. And, you know, we believe that we can generate the greatest yields on Ethereum.

Speaker #2: I think it's certainly been one. You know, we've been involved in this space for some time, and we've certainly been, you know, on the sidelines, sort of watching as these treasury strategies have appeared.

Speaker #2: And you know, we certainly looked at it from a perspective of we're not in an arms race here with Bitcoin and others to own the most Ethereum.

Speaker #2: Like, we one, believe that our sort of strategy is really differentiated by the fact that we have an exclusive partnership with Dialectic. You know, from a public company standpoint, that is an exclusive relationship.

Speaker #2: And you know, we believe that we can generate the greatest yields on Ethereum. So we certainly believe at the end of this month, you know, when we can report our first month and actual results on yield, that people will start to see that.

Justin Kenna: So we certainly believe at the end of this month, you know, when we can report our first month of actual results on yield, that people will start to see that. And hopefully, you know, the market will see those actual results. But certainly, we think that we have a differentiated approach by the fact that our operating business really does work within this space, right? And that is through our core businesses in technology, agency, events, marketing, media. You know, these gaming audiences are living on the internet. And, you know, there's enormous crossover with these crypto communities, right? They're all digitally native. It's really sort of servicing everything internet culture. And so we have done that. We've worked with a number of blockchain gaming developers in the past. You know, our largest sponsor on the Phase Esports site is Rollpit, which is another, you know, crypto-native betting site.

Speaker #2: And hopefully, you know, the market will see those actual results. But certainly, we think that we have a differentiated approach by the fact that our operating business really does work within this space, right?

Speaker #2: And that is through our core businesses in technology, agency, events, marketing, media. You know, these gaming audiences living on the Internet, and you know, there's enormous crossover with these crypto communities, right?

Speaker #2: They're all digitally native. It's really sort of servicing everything internet culture. And so we have done that. We've worked with a number of blockchain gaming developers in the past.

Speaker #2: You know, our largest sponsor on the phase esports side is Rolepit, which is another, you know, crypto-native betting site. And so we have had experience in the past, Greg, but we've sort of made this a real emphasis here of growth.

Justin Kenna: And so we have had experience in the past, Greg, but we've sort of made this a real emphasis here of growth. And I think we're going to really start to see some material results into the back half of the year. So this isn't like a, you know, 2026, '27 strategy. You need to wait, you know, three, four quarters to see the results. We've had a huge amount of inbound since we announced the treasury strategy. We've made, you know, we've done a lot of work with our staff around the space and really educating everybody around the space. And we think we're really uniquely positioned to be that leading internet culture, digitally native agency. So, you know, we talk about kind of how fragmented the gaming space is. I think, you know, the crypto space even more so, right?

Speaker #2: And I think we're going to really start to see some material results in the back half of the year. So this isn't like a, you know, 2026-2027 strategy where you need to wait three or four quarters to see the results.

Speaker #2: We've had a huge amount of inbound since we announced the treasury strategy. We've made you know, we've done a lot of work with our staff around the space and really educating everybody around the space.

Speaker #2: And we think we're really uniquely positioned to be that leading internet culture, digitally native agency. So you know, we talk about kind of how fragmented the gaming space is.

Speaker #2: I think you know, the crypto space even more so, right? And they're not engaging, you know, the big traditional agencies like a lot of gaming publishers and brands now are.

Justin Kenna: And they're not engaging, you know, the big traditional agencies like a lot of gaming publishers and brands now are. So I think there's, yeah, a huge opportunity for us to be the go-to when it comes to, you know, IRL events, when it comes to, you know, marketing campaigns, when it comes to content. And so, yeah, I mean, we saw an announcement yesterday with Azuki against $2.5 million of revenue. It's going to hit, you know, our books in Q3 and Q4. And we expect there to be a number of other deals that will be closed and announced within sort of Q3 that will hit our books in Q3 and certainly within Q4 and into next year.

Speaker #2: So I think there's yeah, huge opportunity for us to be the go-to when it comes to you know, IRL events, when it comes to you know, marketing campaigns, when it comes to content, and so yeah, and then we saw an announcement yesterday with Azuki against two and a half million dollars of revenue.

Speaker #2: It's going to hit you know, our books in Q3 and Q4. And we expect there to be a number of other deals that will be closed and announced within sort of Q3 that will hit our books in Q3.

Speaker #2: And certainly within Q4 and into next year.

Speaker #4: That's great. Thanks very much, Justin.

Greg Gubbs: That's great. Thanks very much, Justin.

Speaker #1: This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Justin Kenna for any closing remarks. Please go ahead.

Operator: This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Justin Kenna for any closing remarks. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Thank you. And yeah, I just want to thank everyone for jumping on. On today's call, you know, we've certainly received you know, a lot of inbound you know, around the treasury strategy and sort of understanding the different pieces there.

Justin Kenna: Thank you. And yeah, I just want to thank everyone for jumping on on today's call. You know, we've certainly received, you know, a lot of inbound, you know, around the treasury strategy and sort of understanding the different pieces there and, you know, why the company is trading below cash and Ethereum. And, you know, I think that as frustrated as we certainly are as management, we're going to continue to keep our heads down and drive the business forward and get to profitability to prove out the yield strategy to continue to really drive for long-term sustained shareholder success. And that's really what we're in this for. I think that we mentioned it in the script, but, you know, we really look at this strategy as a long-term strategy. This isn't about just riding the appreciation in price of Ethereum, which is certainly nice.

Speaker #2: And you know, why the company is trading below cash and Ethereum and you know, I think that as frustrated as we certainly are, as management, we're going to continue to keep our heads down and drive the business forward and get to profitability.

Speaker #2: To prove out the yield strategy, to continue to really drive for long-term sustained shareholder success. And that's really what we're in this for. I think that, you know, we mentioned in the script, but you know, we really look at this strategy as a long-term strategy.

Speaker #2: This isn't about just riding you know, the appreciation and price of Ethereum, which is certainly nice, right? That sort of $19 million unrealized gain is certainly nice, but it's this is about long-term sustained success.

Justin Kenna: The sort of $19 million unrealized gain is certainly nice, but this is about long-term sustained success. It's about generating real yield that we can invest into the operating business and that we can continue to execute. So, you know, as I mentioned, we're really uniquely positioned here as a service provider to the crypto space. We see this as a new vertical and new revenue stream for us. We're going to continue to be a leader in the gaming space, but we think that we're extremely well positioned for, you know, future growth. And so, yeah, I really appreciate the support of all the investors. And, you know, we're certainly here if anybody has questions about the strategy or wants to understand more. We're always available. But, yeah, again, we feel really bullish about where things sit today and where we're headed.

Speaker #2: It's about generating real yield that we can invest into the operating business and that we can continue to execute. As I mentioned, we're really uniquely positioned here as a service provider to the crypto space.

Speaker #2: We see this as a new vertical and new revenue stream for us. We're going to continue to be a leader in the gaming space.

Speaker #2: But we think that we're extremely well positioned. For you know, future growth and so yeah, I really appreciate the support of all the investors.

Speaker #2: And you know, we're certainly here. If anybody has questions about the strategy or wants to understand more, we're always available. But yeah, again, we feel really bullish about where things sit today and where we're headed, you know, we're really, really excited about Q3 and Q4.

Justin Kenna: You know, we're really, really excited about Q3 and Q4. Nothing has changed in our ruthless pursuit of profitability. And we're really excited to sort of update shareholders with our Q3 results and deliver those results for shareholders. So, again, thank you everyone for jumping on today. And, you know, the company really appreciates it. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Nothing has changed in our ruthless pursuit of profitability. And we're really excited to sort of update shareholders about Q3 results and deliver those results for shareholders.

Speaker #2: So, again, thank you everyone for jumping on today. The company really appreciates it. Thank you.

Operator: This brings to a close GameSquare's 2025 second quarter financial results conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.