Q3 2025 Matador Resources Co Earnings Call

Mac Schmitz: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the third quarter 2025 Matador Resources Company earnings conference call. My name is Jonathan, and I will be serving as the operator for today. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. We will facilitate a question and answer session at the end of the company's remarks. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes, and the replay will be available on the company's website for one year, as discussed in the company's earnings press release issued yesterday. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Mac Schmitz, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations for Matador Resources Company. Mr. Schmitz, you may proceed.

Speaker #2: Good morning ladies and gentlemen . Welcome to the third quarter , 2025 Matador Resources Company Earnings conference call . My name is Jonathan , and I will be serving as the operator for today .

Speaker #2: At this time , all participants are in listen only mode . We will facilitate a question and answer session at the end of the company's remarks .

Speaker #2: As a reminder, this conference is being recorded for replay purposes, and the replay will be available on the company's website for one year.

Speaker #2: As discussed in the company's earnings press release issued yesterday, I will now turn the call over to Mr. Mac Schmitz, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations for Matador.

Speaker #2: Mr. Schmitz , you may proceed .

Mac Schmitz: Thank you, Jonathan. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Matador Resources Company's third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Some of the presenters today will reference certain non-GAAP financial measures regularly used by Matador Resources Company in measuring the company's financial performance. Reconciliations of such non-GAAP financial measures with the comparable financial measures calculated in accordance with GAAP are contained at the end of the company's earnings press release. As a reminder, certain statements included in this morning's presentation may be forward-looking and reflect the company's current expectations or forecasts of future events based on the information that is now available. Actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements.

Speaker #3: Thank you . Jonathan , and good morning , everyone , and thank you for joining us for Matador's third quarter 2020 Earnings Conference call .

Speaker #3: Some of the presenters today will reference certain non-GAAP financial measures regularly used by Matador Resources in measuring the company's financial performance. Reconciliations of such non-GAAP financial measures with the comparable financial measures calculated in accordance with GAAP are contained at the end of the company's earnings press release.

Speaker #3: As a reminder , certain statements included in this morning's presentation may be forward looking and reflect the company's current expectations or forecasts of future events based on the information that is now available .

Speaker #3: Actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements. Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially is contained in the company's earnings release and its most recent annual report on Form 10-K, as well as in any subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q.

Mac Schmitz: Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially is contained in the company's earnings release and its most recent annual report on Form 10-K and any subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q. In addition to our earnings press release yesterday, I would like to remind everyone that you can find a slide presentation in connection with the third quarter 2025 earnings release under the Investor Relations tab on our website. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Joseph Wm. Foran, our Founder, Chairman, and CEO. Joe?

Speaker #3: In addition to our earnings press release yesterday, I would like to remind everyone that you can find a slide presentation in connection with the third quarter 2025 earnings release under the Investor Relations tab on our website.

Speaker #3: And with that, I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Joseph Foran, our founder, chairman, and CEO.

Speaker #3: Joe .

Joseph Wm. Foran: Thank you, Mac. It's good to talk to everybody again. We think we've had a heck of a quarter and really pleased with our process in all of our different areas and the progress. We're going to try to go around the table so you can hear directly from a lot of the people doing the actual work. I think they've just done an outstanding job to date. We're particularly excited on this quarter because anytime you get to raise the dividend, you generally get a lot of attaboys from your shareholders, particularly the rank-and-file shareholders. Also pleased that, recognized by the Dallas Morning News as one of the larger companies in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. The nicest part of the deal is that when you do the calculations, although 36 in size, we are number one in profit per employee.

Speaker #4: Thank you . Matt . It's good to talk to everybody again . We think we've had a heck of a quarter and really pleased with our process and all of our different areas .

Speaker #4: And the progress, and we're going to try to go around the table so you can hear directly from a lot of the people doing the actual work.

Speaker #4: And but I think they've just done an outstanding job to date . And we're particularly excited on this quarter because anytime you get to raise the dividend , you generally get a lot of attaboys from some from your shareholders , particularly the rank and file shareholders , but also , please that recognized by the Dallas Morning News is one of the larger companies in the Dallas-Fort worth area .

Speaker #4: But the nicest part of the deal is that when you do the calculations , we're although 36 in size , we are number one in profit per employee .

Joseph Wm. Foran: Give a lot of credit to the staff and their contributions and look forward to this report. I know everybody is interested in knowing about capital spending and the thought processes behind that. I would tell you, if I were faced with the same situation, we would still spend this money, just as we did this year. I think the teams really worked together on that, and the Executive Committee of the Board and the Executive Committee of the company all went through this and said not only about this quarter, but setting up next year is going to be one of the most fruitful years we have as we have lots of inventory, lots of cash flow, good liquidity, and room on our RBL. Ask away.

Speaker #4: So you have a lot of credit to the staff and their contributions and look forward to this report . And I know everybody is interested in knowing about capital spending and and the thought processes behind that , but would tell you if I were faced with the same situation , we would still spend this money just as we did this year .

Speaker #4: I think the teams really worked together on that , and the executive committee of the board and the executive committee of the company all went through this and , and , and said not only about this quarter , but setting up next year is going to be one of the most fruitful years we have , as we have lots of inventory , lots of cash flow and good liquidity and and room on our RBL .

Speaker #4: So ask away . I might turn it over to Chris , our chief operating officer . Just to describe some of the thought process that we went through before deciding on this capital structure .

Joseph Wm. Foran: I might turn it over to Chris, our Chief Operating Officer, just to describe some of the thought and process that we went through before deciding on this capital structure.

Christopher P. Calvert: Thank you, Joe. This is Christopher P. Calvert, Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer. Thank you guys for taking the time to be on the call. I’d like to take a few minutes here to highlight the positives of what was written in the release last night surrounding the capital program and really focus on three things that I feel were probably maybe overlooked. First, I'd like to talk about the underlying economics related to the projects that came into this capital plan. Specifically, we mentioned 12 additional wells that were going to be brought into the 2025 program.

Speaker #4: Yeah .

Speaker #5: Thank you Joe . This is Chris Calvert , Executive Vice president and Chief Operating Officer Thank you guys for taking the time to be on the call .

Speaker #5: And really , I'd like to take a few minutes here to to highlight the positives of what was written in the release last night surrounding the capital program .

Speaker #5: And really focus on three things that I feel we're probably maybe overlooked . You know , first , I'd like to talk about the underlying economics related to the projects that that came into this capital plan .

Speaker #5: Specifically , we mentioned 12 additional wells that we're going to be brought into the 2025 program to highlight these wells specifically , you know , these wells are in excess of 50% rate of return , million BOE wells , half of which of these fourth quarter sales , we're going to be talking about are in Antelope Ridge , which is what we've talked about .

Christopher P. Calvert: To highlight these wells specifically, these wells are in excess of a 50% rate of return, million BOE wells, half of which of these fourth quarter tills we're going to be talking about are in Antelope Ridge, which is what we've talked about, some of the highest EURs, not only in our company profile but also in the basin. Really strong projects are associated with this capital plan. Secondly, I think it was somewhat overlooked or taken for granted, the advantages and the efficiencies that have been made at the well cost level. We initially came out in 2025 and guided to a midpoint of $880 per completed lateral foot. We've since revised that number down to $835 to $855 with a midpoint of $844. As we turn on, we expect to turn on roughly 1.2 million net lateral feet this year.

Speaker #5: Some of the highest years, not only in our company profile, but also in the basin. And so, really strong projects are associated with this capital plan.

Speaker #5: Secondly , you know , I think it was somewhat overlooked or taken for granted . The the advantages and the efficiencies that have been made at the well cost level .

Speaker #5: We initially came out in 2025 and guided to a midpoint of $880 per completed lateral foot . We've since revised that number down to eight , 35 to 855 , with a midpoint of 844 .

Speaker #5: And as we turn on , we expect to turn on roughly 1.2 million net lateral feet this year . That , you know , 30 to $45 savings equates to about 50 to $60 million in capital savings .

Christopher P. Calvert: That $30 to $45 savings equates to about $50 to $60 million in capital savings. Not only are we turning on extremely economic projects, we're doing it at a lower well cost level. Our initial investments are actually reduced, which in turn helps the economics of the wells. Thirdly, talking about the accelerated operations, I'd already spoken to the 12 wells that we accelerated into 2025. We will also have a positive springboard looking into 2026 with 13.6 net wells that will be turned on at the beginning of January. As we look to that, that's going to provide extremely good, excuse me, positive momentum going into 2026 to achieve 2% to 5% organic growth rate of what we feel is somewhat of an inorganic growth rate in 2025.

Speaker #5: So, not only are we turning on extremely economic projects, we're doing it at a lower well cost level. So, our initial investments are actually reduced, which in turn helped the economics of the wells.

Speaker #5: Thirdly , you know , talking about the accelerated operations , we already spoken to the 12 wells that we accelerated into 2025 . We will also have a positive springboard looking into 2026 with 13.6 net wells .

Speaker #5: That will be turned on at the beginning of January . And so as we look to that , that's going to provide extreme good .

Speaker #5: Excuse me . Positive momentum going into 2026 to achieve 2 to 5% organic growth rate of what we feel is somewhat of an inorganic growth rate in 2025 .

Christopher P. Calvert: When you consider those three things, the underlying economic returns of the projects, the reduced cost at the well level, and the positive momentum leading into 2026, I think it leads to a very strong report and a positive outlook for 2026.

Speaker #5: And so I think when you consider those three things , you know , the economic underlying economic returns of the projects , the reduced cost at the well level and the positive momentum leading into 2026 , I think it leads to a very strong report and a positive outlook for 2026 .

Robert T. Macalik: Yeah. This is Rob, CFO, so I just wanted to pile on a little bit to what Chris is talking about. Even though I'm a CFO today, I've been Chief Accounting Officer for the past 10 years, and I've been sitting here at this table with this management team. We're really proud of what we've accomplished and created in a consistent manner over those past 10 years. I think, just to bring in an accounting metric, we've gone from accumulated deficit as early as just three and a half years ago to, for the first time this quarter, over $3 billion in retained earnings. That strong balance sheet, and I'll refer you, we have the slide deck out there, refer you to slide 11. I think it highlights the strength of our balance sheet with a 0.4 leverage ratio.

Speaker #3: Yeah . And this is Rob CFO . So I just wanted to pile on a little bit to what Chris is talking about .

Speaker #3: So even though I'm CFO today, I've been Chief Accounting Officer for the past ten years. And I've been sitting here at this table with this management team, and we're really proud of what we've accomplished.

Speaker #3: And created . And a consistent manner over those past ten years . And so I think one , just to bring in an accounting metric , you know , we've gone from accumulated deficit as early as just three and a half years ago to for the first time this quarter , over 3 billion in retained earnings .

Speaker #3: So, that strong balance sheet, and I'll refer you to the slide deck out there. Refer you to slide 11; I think it highlights the strength of our balance sheet with a 0.4 leverage ratio.

Robert T. Macalik: Over the past year, we paid $670 million of our revolving debt and have about $2 billion in liquidity. That allows us the flexibility to take advantage of opportunities like what Chris is just talking about. I'm really excited about the well returns and the results that we've had so far this year. Like Chris said, I feel like that sets us up really nicely for 2026. At the same time, we're able to accomplish the other priorities that we have for free cash flow. As Joe mentioned, we raised our dividend by 20% this quarter. Land spend, we continue to add on to our land position when we can find the accretive deals that we think make sense for us. We don't need to do anything, but we have a really good, strong inventory of greater than 50% returns, even at $50, as we mentioned in the release.

Speaker #3: Over the past year we paid 670 million of our revolving debt . And have about 2 billion in liquidity . So that allows us the flexibility to take advantage of opportunities like what Chris has just talking about .

Speaker #3: And so really excited about the well returns and the results that we've had so far this year . And like Chris said , feel like that sets us up really nicely for 2026 .

Speaker #3: So and at the same time , we're able to accomplish the other priorities that we have for free cash flow . We , as Joe mentioned , raised our dividend by 20% this quarter .

Speaker #3: Land spend. You know, we continue to add to our land position when we can find the accretive deals that we think make sense for us.

Speaker #3: And we don't need to do anything . But we have a really good , strong inventory of of greater than 50% returns , even at $50 .

Speaker #3: As we mentioned in the release . And then the last kind of piece of that is the opportunistic share buyback , you know , the management team or buyers .

Robert T. Macalik: The last kind of piece of that is the opportunistic share buyback. The management team are buyers, and the company is as well. Overall, I think we were able to hit all those priorities this quarter. Like Joe said, had an excellent quarter and really excited about how this sets us up for 2026.

Speaker #3: And so the company is as well . But overall , I think we were able to hit all those priorities this quarter . Like Joe said , had an excellent quarter .

Speaker #3: And we're really excited about how this sets us up for 2026. Jonathan, with that, we'll turn it over to Q&A.

Mac Schmitz: Jonathan, with that, we'll turn it over to Q&A.

Mac Schmitz: All right. Thank you. If you'd like to ask a question at this time, please press star 11 on your telephone. If your question has been answered and you'd like to remove yourself from the queue, simply press star 11 again. Ladies and gentlemen, due to time constraints, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question. Again, we would ask that you please limit yourself to one question until all have had a chance to ask a question, after which we would welcome any additional follow-up questions. One moment for our first question. Our first question comes from the line of Neil Dickman from William Blair. Your question, please.

Speaker #2: All right . Thank you . If you'd like to ask a question at this time , please press star one one on your telephone .

Speaker #2: If your question has been answered and you'd like to remove yourself from the queue , simply press star one . Once again , ladies and gentlemen , due to time constraints , we ask that you please limit yourself to one question again .

Speaker #2: We would ask that you please limit yourself to one question until all have had a chance to ask a question. After which, we would welcome any additional follow-up questions.

Speaker #2: And one moment for our first question. Our first question comes from the line of Neil Dickman from William Blair. Your question, please.

[Analyst]: Morning, guys. Nice to see another nice quarter and solid outlook. Joe, my question is really for you at Chris and the team, just on the op efficiency, something you were just getting at with the capital spend. I'm just wondering, as you all continue to see the improvement, I'm just wondering, how do you all decide between continuing potentially with the same capital spend and likely increasing production growth, or, you know, maybe continuing with the same production and decreasing capital spend? Is it one or the other, or, you know, how do you all make that decision from a higher level? Thank you.

Speaker #6: Morning , guys . Nice to see another nice quarter and solid outlook . Joe . My question is really for you , Chris and the team just on the off efficiency , something you were just getting at with the capital spend .

Speaker #6: I'm just wondering as you all continue to see the improvement . I'm just wondering how do you all decide between continuing potentially with the same capital spend and likely increasing production growth ?

Speaker #6: Or , you know , maybe continuing with the same production and decreasing capital spend ? Is it is it one or the other , or how do you all make that decision from a higher level ?

Speaker #6: Thank you Neil .

Joseph Wm. Foran: Neil, thanks for the question. It's a good question, and I wish I could give you an easy, always answer, but it's always a balance between those two areas and taking into account a number of other factors. It's just not a one variable question or a one variable answer that is price oil up or price oil down because we've often made more money in the bad times than, you know, in more robust times, by taking on some projects when others were out the sideline. A great example of that, if I don't, is going back in time to when we bought the Rodney Robinson lease and the Bonnie, and those leases, they paid out at $20 a barrel during the COVID period. That's one of the best deals we ever did. It was a time of worst oil pricing, and they've really kept giving during that time.

Speaker #4: Thanks for the question . It's a good question . And I wish I could give you an easy , always answer , but it's always a balance between those two areas and and taking into account a number of other factors .

Speaker #4: It's just not a one variable question , one variable answer that is price of oil up or price of oil down . Because we've often made more money in the bad times than you know .

Speaker #4: And more robust times by taking on some projects when others were out the sideline in a great example of that , if I don't , is going back in time to when we bought the Rodney Robinson lease and the Bonnie and those leases , they paid out at $20 a barrel during the Covid period .

Speaker #4: And that's one of the best deals we ever did . And it was a time of worst oil pricing . And they've really kept , kept giving during that time .

Joseph Wm. Foran: Come forward, the same thing can be applied to times where the drilling rigs were stacking up. We've kept the same rigs for 10, 15 years or more, and have found that that's sometimes where you have good rig hands, good pricing on your rigs, good pricing on your completion is a time to build that foundation. We talk about it in committee system, and it's pretty lively, about what we want to do and who wants to do something slightly different. We weigh, when you start out with just $270,000, as I did, to get to where we are today, you can be sure you've had lots of discussions and thoughts about how much to spend and where to spend.

Speaker #4: And come forward. The same thing can be applied to times when the drilling rigs were stacking up. We've kept the same rate for ten, fifteen years or more and have found that that's sometimes where you have.

Speaker #4: Good rig hands , good pricing on your rigs , good pricing on your completion is a time to build that foundation . So we talk about it in committee system , and it's pretty lively about what we want to do .

Speaker #4: And who wants to do some slightly different . But we way when you start out with just $270,000 , is I did to get to where we are today .

Speaker #4: You can be sure you've had lots of discussions and thoughts about how much to spend and where to spend. We've kind of worked out a system among ourselves where we really try to stress test it and think about all the factors, because there are other factors that weigh in on keeping the rig and keeping it going.

Joseph Wm. Foran: We've kind of worked out a system among ourselves where we really try to stress test it and think about all the factors because there's other factors that weigh in on keeping a rig and keeping it going. What's going to happen next year? What is the quality of the prospects? I'm pleased to say our geologists have really knocked it out of the park on some of their ideas on drilling here and there, as you all have seen. We've had steady rise in our engineering reports and in reserve studies that we do twice a year for the banks. There's been steady growth there.

Speaker #4: What is going to happen next year? What is the quality of the prospects? And I'm pleased to say our geologists have really knocked it out of the park on some of their ideas on drilling here and there.

Speaker #4: As you all have seen . And so we've had steady rise in our our , our engineering reports and , and reserve studies that we do twice a year for the banks .

Speaker #4: There's been steady growth there . And so the capital spending isn't something that we weigh by itself , but in connection with everything else .

Joseph Wm. Foran: The capital spending isn't something that we weigh by itself, but in connection with everything else, and the other capital requests from midstream and marketing, for example, is another area that they've come up with ideas and have pointed out, "Let's spend some money here, on the midstream." Of course, with the flow assurance, the added flow assurance that you get out of the basin has been a lifesaver for us at times when the rest of the basin was more or less shut down. It's a multifactor deal and it's lively discussions. I think I got to give a lot of credit to all the guys on the team that are helping make these decisions. I think they've been very wise. As Rob pointed out, look what it's done for our retained earnings.

Speaker #4: And the other capital requests from midstream and marketing , for example , is another area that they've come up with ideas and have pointed out , let's spend some money here on midstream .

Speaker #4: And of course, with the flow assurance, the added flow assurance that you get out of the basin has been a lifesaver for us at times when the rest of the basin was more or less shut down.

Speaker #4: So it's a multifactor deal, and it's lively discussions. I think I got to give a lot of credit to all the guys on the team.

Speaker #4: That are helping make these decisions . I think they've been very wise , and as as Rob pointed out , look what it's done for our retained earnings over the last three and a half years .

Joseph Wm. Foran: Over the last three and a half years, we've moved from a deficit to over $3 billion in retained earnings. It's a pleasure to come back in light of those good decisions and say we're raising the dividend again, which in fact is now the fourth time in seven years, and, you know, getting it up there to 3.5% or more. We plan to keep going in that direction as long as Chris and his team and Tom and his team and the midstream guys are all making these, I think, very good capital decisions. I think you can expect more of the same in the same manner, but we look at it more broadly than just looking at capital decisions based solely on oil price.

Speaker #4: We've moved from a deficit to over 3 billion in retained earnings . So it's a pleasure to come back in light of those good decisions and say we're raising the dividend again , which in fact is now the fourth time in seven years .

Speaker #4: And . You know , getting it up there to 3.5% or more . And we plan to keep going in that direction as long as Chris and his team and Tom and his team and the midstream guys are all making these , I think , very good capital decisions .

Speaker #4: So I think you can expect more of the same in the same manner . But we look at it more broadly than just looking at capital decisions based solely on oil price .

Christopher P. Calvert: Yeah. Neil, this is Chris Calvert again. I think Joe hit it on the head. Just to provide a little more color, I think, you know, when we look at specific project returns, you obviously, like Joe said, have two factors, really multiple factors, but one that has really, what we feel, dislocated in the back half of this year, and that is the cost components to those returns. That cost dislocation can come from efficiencies, which we have proven to be extremely good at, to where, whether it's simul-frac, trim-frac, U-Turns, the efficiency-driven cost dislocation has been the large player in 2025. Now, as we look into the back half of this year, we are able to take advantage of some more competitive service cost pricing. When you have the confluence of efficiency and service cost reduction, you can really tip the scale on project economics.

Speaker #4: .

Speaker #5: Yeah . And Neil , this is this is Chris Calvert again . And I think Joe hit it on the head . And just to provide a little more color , I think you know when we look at specific project returns , you obviously like Joe said , you have two factors or multiple factors , but one that has really what we feel dislocated in the back half of this year .

Speaker #5: And that is the cost component to those returns . And so that cost dislocation can come from efficiencies , which we have proven to be extremely good at , to where whether it's simple frac U-turns , the efficiency driven cost dislocation has been the large player in 2025 .

Speaker #5: Now, as we look into the back half of this year, we are able to take advantage of some more competitive service cost pricing.

Speaker #5: And so when you have the confluence of efficiency and service cost reduction , you can really tip the scale on on project economics .

Christopher P. Calvert: I would also say that as we look forward, the tenet of what we have always operated on is optionality. When we look at this, it is October right now. When we provide a more clear picture of 2026 in February, we have the ability to flex up, flex down, to revise this soft guide for 2026 if market conditions have changed. I think that is something that is extremely important to where, if we see this cost dislocation somewhat converge back, we have the ability to make that change moving forward.

Speaker #5: Now , I would also say that as we look forward , the tenant of what we have always operated on is optionality . And so when we look at this , it is October right now when we provide a more clear picture of 2026 and February , we have the ability to flex up , flex down to , to revise this soft guide for 2026 .

Speaker #5: If market conditions have changed, and I think that is something that is extremely important to note, if we see this cost dislocation somewhat converge back, we have the ability to make that change moving forward.

Mac Schmitz: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Derek Whitfield from Texas Capital. Your question, please.

Speaker #2: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Derek Whitfield from Texas Capital. Your question, please.

[Analyst]: Good morning, Joe and team, and thanks for taking my question.

Speaker #7: Good morning, Joe and team, and thanks for taking my question.

Robert T. Macalik: Morning.

Speaker #3: Good morning .

[Analyst]: Perhaps leaning in on some of the efficiency gains you've highlighted this quarter, where are you seeing the greatest opportunity for continued gains? More broadly, how much of your recent projected gains have been factored into your soft guide for 2026?

Speaker #7: Perhaps leaning in on some of the efficiency gains you've highlighted this quarter, where are you seeing the greatest opportunity for continued gains? More broadly, how much of your recent projected gains have been factored into your soft guide for 2026?

Christopher P. Calvert: Yeah, Derek, this is Christopher P. Calvert again. From an efficiency standpoint, I still think there is always going to be ground to be gained. We have talked a lot about completion operations, simul-frac, trim-frac. In 2025, we utilize those two processes on about 80% to 85% of our wells. Trim-frac, there's still ground to be made to where we can get that number. Right now, it's about 40% for 2025. Look to boost that in 2026. There are going to be logistical operations where we can look to utilize money. Partnerships with San Mateo Midstream play a key part in this when it comes to treated produced water, and using recycled water for fracturing operations is going to be a large part of efficiency gains from a logistics perspective moving forward.

Speaker #5: Yeah , Derek , this is Chris Calvert again from an efficiency standpoint , I still think there is . There's always going to be ground to be gained .

Speaker #5: We have talked a lot about completion operations . Simple frac frac 2025 . We utilize those two processes on about 8,085% of our wells .

Speaker #5: There's still ground to be made to where we can get that number . Right now it's about 40% for 2025 . Look to boost that in 26 .

Speaker #5: There's going to be logistical operations to where we can look to utilize money . Partnerships with San Mateo play a key part in this when it comes to treating produced water and using recycled water for fracturing operations is going to be a large part of efficiency gains from a logistics perspective .

Speaker #5: Moving forward . On the drilling side , extending laterals . We're excited that as we move into the fourth quarter , we're going to have some of our longest laterals to date , 3.4 mile laterals at the assets .

Christopher P. Calvert: On the drilling side, extending laterals, we're excited that as we move into the fourth quarter, we're going to have some of our longest laterals to date, 3.4 mile laterals, at the AmeriDev asset. That's something we are extremely excited to bring forward. From an efficiency standpoint, it's really across the board with completions, drilling, production, facilities, measurement that we look to push forward. Now, how does that play into 2026? Everybody on the call is very aware that this $50 commodity price world that we live in is relatively recent. It's probably within the last 7 to 14 days, and so when we've looked at how we guide from a capital perspective, if oil continues to be in this $50 region, I think there's potential to improve upon a drilling and completion cost per foot range that we guided $835 to $855 for the back half of this year.

Speaker #5: So something where we are extremely excited to bring some of that value forward . So from an efficiency standpoint , it's really across the board with completions , drilling , production facilities , measurement that we look to push forward .

Speaker #5: Now how does that play into 2026 . Everybody on the call is very aware that this $50 commodity price world that we live in is relatively recent .

Speaker #5: You know , it's probably within the last 7 to 14 days . And so when we've looked at how we guide from a capital perspective , you know , if oil continues to be in this $50 region , I think there's potential to where we could improve upon a DNC cost per foot range .

Speaker #5: That we guided . 835 to 855 for the back half of this year . So I think any sort of service cost reductions from a $50 oil commodity world , I think there's potentially grounds to to improve upon .

Christopher P. Calvert: I think any sort of service cost reductions from a $50 oil commodity world, there's potentially grounds to improve upon. From an efficiency standpoint, we started the year at $880. We're going to finish $835, $845, give or take. A large part of that is efficiencies. As we look into 2026, we look to improve upon that number. Hopefully, like we've said in the release, we'll turn in line a similar net lateral footage, but do it on a cheaper capital budget from a drilling and completion side or a more efficient capital budget from a drilling and completion side.

Speaker #5: But I think from an efficiency standpoint, we started the year at 880. We're going to finish at 835 or 845, give or take. A large part of that is efficiencies.

Speaker #5: And so I think as we look into 2026 , we look to improve upon that number and hopefully , like we've said in the release , we'll turn in line a similar net lateral footage , but do it on a cheaper capital budget from a DNC side or more efficient capital budget from a DNC side .

Mac Schmitz: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Leo Paul Mariani from ROTH Capital Partners. Your question, please.

Speaker #2: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Leo Marinari from Roth. Your question, please.

Brian J. Willey: Hey, guys. I don't want to continue to harp on the same sort of point here, but clearly, you folks do have flexibility in your plans, which you certainly spoke to, that you certainly could adjust some things come kind of formal guide in February. I just wanted to maybe get a better sense in terms of the variables that you guys are looking at. A number of folks out there are expecting kind of an oversupplied oil market in 2026. Just want to get a sense of how much the oil macro plays into your thought. I know you've certainly got some returns here, but if oil goes another leg lower here, is there a price level where you maybe decide not to grow so much? Would that be in the $50 to $55 range?

Speaker #8: Hey guys , don't want to continue to harp on the same , you know , sort of point here , but clearly you folks do have flexibility in your plans , which you certainly spoke to that you certainly could adjust some things .

Speaker #8: You know , some kind of formal guide . You know , in February , I just wanted to kind of maybe get a better sense .

Speaker #8: And in terms of the variables that you guys are looking at , a number of folks out there expecting kind of a oversupplied oil market in 2026 , just want to get a sense of how much kind of the all macro kind of plays into your thought .

Speaker #8: And I know you've certainly got some some returns here , but if oil goes another leg lower , here , is there kind of a price level where you maybe decide not to grow so much ?

Speaker #8: Would that be kind of in the $50 to $55 range? Just trying to get a better sense of how you're kind of thinking about oil macro and how that factors into your decisions here.

Brian J. Willey: Just trying to get a better sense of how you're thinking about oil macro and how that factors in your decisions here on spending.

Speaker #8: On spending .

Christopher P. Calvert: Yeah. Hey, Leo, that is a great question. I think as we look, and it'll go back to Joe's answer, I think it was on Neil's first question. I think that's a story that we unfold and we tell when we live in that world. As we get closer to February, if commodity continues to slide, I think that's how we have to approach it. Like Joe said, it's done at a committee level here with all teams participating with board contribution. It's really an internal discussion. However, I think as we look at that, the optionality that we maintain, whether it's at the rig level, even more flexibly at the completion level, we are able to reduce activity in that world if costs don't continue to go down in that reduced commodity price. I think that's how we would kind of look at it.

Speaker #5: Yeah . Hey , Leo , that is a great question . You know , I think as we look and it'll go back to Joe's answer , I think it was on on Neil's first question .

Speaker #5: You know , I think that's a story that that we unfold and we tell when we live in that world . You know , as we get closer to February , if commodity continues to slide , I think that's that's how we have to approach it .

Speaker #5: And like Joe said , it's done at a committee level here with with all teams participating with with board contribution . And it's really it's an internal discussion .

Speaker #5: However , I think as we look at that , that the optionality that we maintain , whether it's at the rig level even more flexibly at the completion level that we are able to to reduce activity in that world .

Speaker #5: If costs don't continue to go down in that , in that reduced commodity price . And so I think that's how we would kind of look at it .

Christopher P. Calvert: It is not a single variable. I don't know if Joe would like to chime in.

Speaker #5: But it is not a single variable, and so I don't know if Joe would like to chime in. Well.

Joseph Wm. Foran: Chris, those are all good points. Remember that we don't look just at the oil price. One factor that has influenced us and made us more active is the fact we've reduced days on well. If you drill these wells faster, you save about $100,000 a day, and that makes a big difference in looking at your rate of return. Each day you save, you improve what makes sense to drill at what particular rate of return. The second thing that I'd say is that the drilling companies, we use Patterson more often than anybody else. Patterson is making improvements all the time on their equipment and their people, also creating the efficiency. Some drops in price can be replaced by efficiency gains. These wells are going to produce for 30 years.

Speaker #4: Chris , those are all good points . But remember that it's we don't look just at the oil price . One factor that has influenced us and made us more active is the fact we reduced days on , well , that if you drill these wells faster , you save about $100,000 a day and that makes a big difference in looking at your rate of return .

Speaker #4: So as each day you save , you improve the what makes sense to drill and what particular rate of return . The second thing that I'd say is that the the drilling companies we use Paterson more often than anybody else , and Paterson is making improvements all the time on their equipment and their people that you have that also creating the efficiency .

Speaker #4: So price some drops in price can be replaced by efficiency gains . But also these wells are going to produce for 30 years .

Joseph Wm. Foran: To look at it just on the price of oil, what the price of oil is today, is narrow-minded, because again, I point you back to the Rodney Robinson wells and the other wells we drilled in the COVID period. You had low oil prices then, but they were paying out within a year on the strength of its production, the low well cost. These other factors have to be not weighed once and then you wait six months to drill the well. They're made close in time to when you spud, and you can always postpone it. You can just say, "We're not going to do it now." If you have a long relationship with the service companies, they'll work with you. They don't want to lose the business. Everybody works together on these things to do it at a more or less optimal time.

Speaker #4: So to look at it just on the price of oil , what the price of oil is today is narrow minded . Because again , I point you back to the Rodney Robinson Wells and the other wells .

Speaker #4: We drilled in the Covid period . You had low oil prices then , but they were paying out within a year . On the strength of its production .

Speaker #4: The low well cost . So they're just these other factors have to be not weighed once . And then you wait six months to drill the well .

Speaker #4: There may close in time to when you spud , and you can always postpone and you can just say , we're not going to do it now .

Speaker #4: And if you have a longer relationship with that service companies, they'll work with you. They don't want to lose the business.

Speaker #4: So, everybody works together on these things to do it at or more or less optimal times. So, the capital decision really is the one that drives it so much.

Joseph Wm. Foran: The capital decision really isn't the one that drives it so much for a company like us that has the capital resources we do. $2 billion on our line of credit, paid down debt to a small amount. It really is a larger question on what efficiency gains taken into account, what efficiency gains, what these other costs are, a cost of profit. I really commend Chris and his team for reducing that where your per foot cost is less now than it was, considerably less in my mind, where you can save $60 million has to be taken into account on the decision. Do you go ahead with this capital spending now, thinking that, anticipating that with the efficiencies and the like here, you're going to still come out ahead? They're going to use their best equipment and best hands.

Speaker #4: For a company like us , it has a capital resources . We do 2 billion on our on our line of credit , you know , paid down debt to small amount .

Speaker #4: It it really is a larger question on that is what efficiency gains taken into account . What efficiency gains , what these other costs are the cost of pipe and I really commend Chris and his team for reducing that .

Speaker #4: Where your profit cost is less now than it was. You know, considerably less in my mind, where you can save $60 million has to be taken into account on the decision.

Speaker #4: Do you go ahead with this capital spending now thinking that anticipating that with the efficiencies and the like , you're you're going to still come out ahead and and they're going to use their best equipment and best hands and they they all know that reducing cost is a is there a major objective .

Joseph Wm. Foran: They all know that reducing cost is their major objective. Ours is working for the long term. We're not spending just to be spending, but we're spending fully intending to make money. You can see that by the number of shares and participation by our employees in buying stock in the open period. I feel real comfortable that everybody's taking things into account and pointing out the positive of drilling these wells or doing other capital events at the same time and coordinating it. It's a balance between what the choices you have to drill or to acquire properties or use them to keep building out your midstream, which has worked out to be a real good deal. We have a lot of opportunities, a lot of choices, and there's a lot of thought and effort put into it.

Speaker #4: And ours is working for the long term. And we're not spending just to be spending, but we're spending fully intending to make money.

Speaker #4: And you can see that by the number of shares and participation by our employees . And buying buying stock in the open period .

Speaker #4: So I feel really comfortable that everybody's taking things into account and pointing out the positives of drilling these wells or doing other capital events at the same time.

Speaker #4: In coordinating it . So it's a balance . Between what the choices you have to drill or to acquire properties or use them to keep building out your midstream , which has worked out to be a real good deal .

Speaker #4: So we have a lot of opportunities, a lot of choices, and there's a lot of thought and effort put into it.

[Analyst]: Yeah, Joe, this is Brian J. Willey, the Executive Vice President, Midstream. I think you're exactly right. You mentioned the midstream business. Just a couple of items on that. That business is performing extremely well. We had a new processing record last quarter. 533 million cubic feet per day of natural gas was processed. We continue to have that success as we get into the fourth quarter. It's been a great start to the fourth quarter. Not only is the business performing well, but we've talked a lot about the different options with that part, with that business because we don't believe that the value of the midstream is fully reflected in Matador's share price. We continue to explore the options. We can be patient there. We don't necessarily have to have that money at Matador.

Speaker #4: Yeah , Joe , this is Brian , vice president midstream . I think you're exactly right . You mentioned the midstream business and just a couple items on that , that business is performing extremely well .

Speaker #4: We had a new processing record last quarter, processing 533,000,000 cubic feet per day of natural gas. We continue to have that success as we get into the next quarter.

Speaker #3: The fourth quarter .

Speaker #4: It's been a great start to the fourth quarter, and not only is the business performing well, but we've talked a lot about the different options with that part.

Speaker #4: With that business , because we don't believe that the value of the midstream is fully reflected in Matador share price . And so we continue to explore the options .

Speaker #4: And and we can be patient there . We don't necessarily have to have that money at Matador . So we can be patient and make sure it's the right opportunity and the right transaction format .

[Analyst]: We can be patient and make sure it's the right opportunity and the right transaction for Matador's shareholders to provide the most value. Maybe the last point I'd make is just Matador also has some wholly owned assets that they retain and they continue to operate. Those are assets that we acquired in the Advanced Acquisition and the AmeriDev Acquisition. It's about 250 miles of pipeline altogether. Great assets. Those assets are about $30 to $40 million this year in EBITDA is what we expect. We also, next year, expect it to be between $40 and $50 million in EBITDA for those assets. Those are great assets that we could drop down eventually down to San Mateo with the right situation. It's a great business at San Mateo in the midstream business because it's a fee-based business.

Speaker #4: Our shareholders and provide the most value. And maybe the last point I'd make is just Matador. Also has some wholly owned assets that they retain, and they continue to operate.

Speaker #4: And those are assets that we acquired in the Advanced Acquisition and the Imperative Acquisition. It's about 250 miles of pipeline altogether. Great assets.

Speaker #4: And those assets are about 30 to $40 million this year in EBITDA is what we expect . And we also next year expected to be between 40 and $50 million in EBITDA for those assets .

Speaker #4: So those are great assets that we could we could drop down eventually down to San Mateo with the right situation . And it's a great business at San Mateo .

Speaker #4: And the mystery business because it's a fee based business . It's something that , you know , despite the ups and downs of commodity prices , we continue to get the the fees from our customers , including Matador , but also including third parties .

[Analyst]: It's something that, despite the ups and downs of commodity prices, we continue to get the fees from our customers, including Matador, but also including third parties. It's been a great year for a third party. We've had a new customer on the oil side, and we continue to expand the relationships with our existing customers and repeat customers as we move forward. The midstream business continues to perform very well. That relationship and partnership with Matador, the team there, and team here at San Mateo, this really is a benefit that I think is hard to replicate and very unique for Matador and its shareholders.

Speaker #4: It's been a great year for third party . We've had a new customer on the oil side , and we continue to expand the relationships with our existing customers and repeat customers as we move forward .

Speaker #4: And so the midstream business continues to perform very well , and that relationship and partnership with Matador , the team there and team here at San Mateo , this really is a benefit that I think is hard to replicate and very unique for Matador .

Speaker #4: And its shareholders .

Christopher P. Calvert: Yeah. This is Greg Krug, Assistant Vice President of Marketing and Midstream Strategy. I just wanted to pile on a little bit as far as the midstream business is concerned. As Brian mentioned, it is a fee-based business and not commodity. These lower commodity prices do not have an effect on the fees that we get on San Mateo. I wanted to point out that, you know, as far as flow assurances, we've harped on that every time we have an opportunity to do so just because it is so important to Matador and to our third-party customers. We feel like we're a step above some of the other third-party midstream companies just for the simple reason, I mean, we're tied to those with some of our midstream or our wells at Matador. Those other companies, they're just not as reliable as we are.

Speaker #5: This is Greg Craig, EVP.

Speaker #4: Of marketing .

Speaker #5: And midstream strategy. I just wanted to.

Speaker #4: Pile on a little .

Speaker #5: Bit .

Speaker #4: As far as the midstream business is concerned.

Speaker #3: As as .

Speaker #4: Brian mentioned .

Speaker #5: As far as it is a . fee based .

Speaker #4: Business , not commodity . So these lower commodity prices do not have an effect on , on the on the fees that we get on San Mateo .

Speaker #5: Also .

Speaker #4: I wanted .

Speaker #5: To point out that.

Speaker #4: As far as flow assurance is , we parked on that every time we have .

Speaker #5: An opportunity to do .

Speaker #4: So .

Speaker #5: Just .

Speaker #4: Because it is so important to to .

Speaker #5: Matador and to .

Speaker #4: Our third party customers .

Speaker #5: , and we feel like we're .

Speaker #4: A step above some of .

Speaker #5: The other third party .

Speaker #4: Midstream companies , just for the .

Speaker #5: Simple reason .

Speaker #4: I mean , we're .

Speaker #5: Tied .

Speaker #4: To those .

Speaker #5: With some of our . midstream or our wells at Matador .

Speaker #4: Those other companies .

Speaker #5: And .

Speaker #4: Their they're .

Speaker #5: Just not as reliable as as we are . We feel .

Christopher P. Calvert: We feel more comfortable with going to the San Mateo and Matador-owned systems. I think that's a huge factor for us as well.

Speaker #4: More .

Speaker #5: Comfortable with .

Speaker #4: Going to the San Mateo .

Speaker #5: And Matador owned systems . So .

Speaker #4: I think that's a huge a huge . factor for .

Speaker #5: Us as well .

[Analyst]: Yeah. This is Brian J. Willey. One other thing to add, slide 12 actually shows an outline of our assets. You can see the 650 miles of pipeline, the 720 million cubic feet per day of processing. I think just generally, if you just look at the slides, if somebody took a minute to look at the slides, you'd be able to see what a great job Matador Resources Company is doing altogether and what a fantastic job they're doing. I think if you haven't taken the time to look at the slides, it's a great opportunity to be able to look at those and get a great summary of the progress that we are making at Matador Resources Company. Slide 12 has those Matador wholly owned assets; you can see those in blue on the map.

Speaker #4: Yeah . And this is Brian Willie . One other thing to add . Slide 12 actually shows an outline of our assets . You can see the 650 miles of pipeline , the 720,000,000 cubic feet per day of processing .

Speaker #4: And I think just generally if you just look at the slides , generally , if somebody took a minute to look at the slides , you'd be able to see what a great job Matador and is doing altogether .

Speaker #4: And what a fantastic job that we're doing . And so , you know , I think if you haven't taken time to look at the slides , I think it's a great opportunity to be able to look at those and get a great summary of the progress that we are making at Matador .

Speaker #4: And so slide 12 has those Matador wholly owned assets. You can see those in blue on the map, but even all the different slides, they just really summarize the great progress that we're making, right?

[Analyst]: Even all the different slides just really summarize the great progress that we're making.

Joseph Wm. Foran: Right. I hope that answers your question. Another thing to look at is that, look on slide number four, and you can see the progress we've made over these 12 years since we went public in this Matador, and you know, where we sit and why having that midstream to service our area. The other midstream companies have been very cooperative. We've all tried to cooperate with each other on offloads. Having the midstream gives you, puts you in that club where everybody helps each other if some is down for maintenance, and want to thank everybody for the way they do that and get gas out of the market. Greg, you want to add to that?

Speaker #4: I hope that answers your question . But another thing to look at is that look on slide number four . And you can see the progress we've made over these 12 years since we went public in in this matador .

Speaker #4: And you know where we sit and why having that midstream to service our area . And the other midstream companies have been very cooperative .

Speaker #4: We've all tried to cooperate with each other on offloads . So there's good have in midstream gives you puts you in that club where everybody helps each other .

Speaker #4: If some are down for maintenance, I want to thank everybody for the way they do that and get gas out of the market.

Speaker #4: Greg , do you want to add to that ?

Christopher P. Calvert: Yes, I do want to say, had a shout out to some of our third-party offloads that we have, one of which is, I want to congratulate MPLX for their acquisition of Northwind. We're going to have a long relationship with MPLX, and we're looking forward to working with them further on the Northwind asset and the fact that's going to be a solution for us for our sour, our gas, and CO2. I might add, as far as Enterprise is concerned as well, with their acquisition opinion.

Speaker #5: Yes , I do want to say I have a shout out to our some of our third party offloads that we have , one of which is I want to congratulate MPL for their acquisition of of Northwind .

Speaker #5: We're going to have a long relationship with and we're looking forward to working with them further on our north , the Northwind asset and the fact that's going to be a solution for us , for our , our , our , our sour gas and CO2 and I might add , as far as enterprise is concerned , as well , you know , with their acquisition opinion , we'll have we've got quite a bit of gas dedicated to them as well .

Joseph Wm. Foran: Yeah, that'll work.

Christopher P. Calvert: We've got quite a bit of gas dedicated to them as well, and we look forward to that. We're also doing quite a bit of business with Target, so we're looking forward to doing additional business with them. We've got a great relationship with all those folks.

Speaker #5: And we look forward to that . We're also doing quite a bit of business with target . And so we're we're looking forward to doing additional business with them and we've got a great relationship with all those folks .

Speaker #5: So .

Joseph Wm. Foran: Hope that answered your question. If you need more, we again invite everybody on the call to come see us. We'll devote more time to you and to see our operation because there's aspects of our operation, such as our Maxcom room, which is monitoring all of our drilling activity, that has added to the efficiency gains that's led us to lower prices, which has opened up the door to more capital decisions and adds to the long-term nature of what we're trying to establish in New Mexico.

Speaker #4: Hope that answered your question . But if you need more , we again invite everybody on the call to come see us . We'll devote more time to you and to see our operation , because there's aspects of our operation , such as our maximum room , which is monitoring all of our drain activity .

Speaker #4: That has added to the efficiency gains that led us to lower prices , which is open up the door to more capital decisions and and adds to the long term nature of what we're trying to establish in New Mexico .

Mac Schmitz: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Noah B. Hungness from BofA Securities. Your question, please.

Speaker #2: Thank you . And our next question comes from the line of Noah Huggins from B of A . Your question , please .

[Analyst]: Morning, everyone. For my question here, I was hoping to kind of ask on the water handling. We've seen a lot of activity in the water handling sector this year. Obviously, San Mateo has a large water handling business. As you guys continue to leverage trim-frac and simul-frac operations, it seems to be playing an increasingly important role there. Could you maybe talk about just general growth aspects for that company or growth outlook and how you're thinking about that business today?

Speaker #9: Morning , everyone . For my question here , I was hoping to kind of ask on the on water handling . We've seen a lot of activity in the water handling sector this year .

Speaker #9: Obviously, San Mateo has a large water handling business. As you guys continue to leverage Trimal Frac and frac operations, it seems to be playing an increasingly important role there.

Speaker #9: But I guess, could you maybe talk about just general growth? Growth aspects for that company or growth outlook and how you're thinking about that business today?

Brian J. Willey: Yeah. Hey, Noah, I'll start from the Matador side of things, and then Brian can also talk about it from the San Mateo side. Next year, there is going to be, we're looking at roughly $40 or $50 million investment in Matador's wholly owned midstream business. A lot of that has to do with the build-out of our water gathering system, both in the AmeriDev area and in our Hat Mesa kind of ranger area. That investment really speaks to the integrated nature of the upstream business with the midstream business and being able to provide an increased percentage of produced water for these intense hydraulic fracturing operations. Chris talked about some of the efficiency gains that we've seen in that realm. I think it is a great example of us working together to increase the amount of produced water.

Speaker #10: Yeah . Hey , no , I'll start from the Matador side of things . And then and then Brian can also talk about it from the San Mateo side .

Speaker #10: But you know , next year there is going to be , you know , we're looking at roughly 40 to $50 million investment in in matador's , wholly owned midstream business .

Speaker #10: And a lot of that has to do with the build-out of our water gathering system, both in the area and in our Hap Mesa kind of ranger area.

Speaker #10: And so , you know , because that investment is really talked to speaks to the integrated nature of , of of the upstream business with the midstream business .

Speaker #10: And to be able to provide an increased percentage of produced water for these intense hydraulic fracturing operations. Chris talked about some of the efficiency gains that we've seen in that realm.

Speaker #10: And and I think it is a great example of us working together to increase the amount of produced water . It lowers used for hydraulic fracturing operations , which reduces our lease operating expenses .

Brian J. Willey: It lowers use for hydraulic fracturing operations, which reduces our lease operating expenses, and it reduces the capital spend for the on the fract side. There is an investment there to increase our water handling capabilities.

Speaker #10: And it reduces the capital spend for for the on the frac side . And so yeah , there is an investment there to to increase our watering water handling capabilities .

Mac Schmitz: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Abbott from Wolf Research. Your question, please.

Speaker #2: Thank you . And our next question comes from the line of John Abbott from Wolfe Research . Your question please .

[Analyst]: Thank you very much for taking our question. Our question is going to be on natural gas pricing. I mean, we did see some negative Waha, negative during the first part of October. As you sort of look out in the Permian, there's going to be additional takeaway capacity. Do you think that gets filled? I just really sort of like, how do you think about gas pricing in Q4? How do you think of gas pricing longer term? Do these pipes get filled? How do you think as you sort of report on a two-stream basis? How do you think about the gas price in your realizations?

Speaker #11: Thank you very much for taking our question . Our question is going to be on natural gas pricing . I mean , we did see some negative Waha negative during , you know , the first part of October and then and then as you sort of look out in the Permian , there's going to be additional takeaway capacity .

Speaker #11: Do you think that gets filled? So, I just really sort of like, how do you think about gas prices for Q3? And then how do you think of gas pricing longer term?

Speaker #11: Do these pipes get filled ? How do you think , as you sort of report on a two stream basis , how are you thinking about the gas price and your realizations ?

Brian J. Willey: Hey, John. I'll start. If Greg and Anton want to pile in here, that's great. In Q4, as we highlighted in the release, we did elect to curtail some wells for a few weeks during this long-haul pipeline maintenance period. In doing so, we avoided paying those kind of deep negative Waha pricing. I do think it speaks to Matador and our ability to be nimble and make sure that we have that lever as an option to pull in this sort of environment. We saved a lot of money in doing so and really just deferred that production to where Waha prices are positive as they are today.

Speaker #10: Hey John , I'll start if Greg and Anton want to pile in here , that's great . But yeah , so in Q4 , we as we highlighted in the release , we did elect to curtail some wells for a few weeks during this long haul maintenance , long haul pipeline maintenance period .

Speaker #10: And in doing so , we avoided paying those those kind of deep negative Waha pricing . I do think it speaks to Matador and our ability to be nimble and and make sure that , you know , we have that lever as an as an option to pull in this in this sort of environment .

Speaker #10: And , you know , we saved a lot of money in doing so . And really just , just deferred that production to a , you know , where waha prices are positive as they are today .

Brian J. Willey: On your question about these long-haul pipes that have been already decided to be funded for building, you've got Hugh Brinson that's coming on later this year, and Blackcomb and GCF expansion, all of which will add roughly 4 BCF towards the latter part of this year. We do think that the longer-term view of, and really, I mean, just 2026, that the capacity issues, if you call them, in the basin for Waha, will be relieved by those pipelines.

Speaker #10: And then on your question about these long haul pipes that have been already decided to be funded for for building , you've got , you've got Hugh Brinson that's coming on later this year and Blackcomb and GCC expansion , all of which will add roughly four BCF towards the latter part of this year .

Speaker #10: And so we do think that the longer term view and really , I mean , just 2026 , that the capacity issues , if you call them in the basin for Waha , will be be relieved by those by those pipelines .

Joseph Wm. Foran: Yeah. The other thing, Glenn, is to mention weather still plays a role in the gas pipeline business. You hit October each year or end of September, you're faced with this risk. You want to be sure you have the balance sheet that you can work through those periods. The second thing is that solutions are coming, that the midstream industry is very responsive to this and finding ways out. I'm pleased to report today, Anton, you have a better handle, but the price of gas or the selling price is above $50 now.

Speaker #4: Yeah . The other thing , Lynn is to mention , weather still plays a role in the gas pipeline business . And so you hit October each year or end of September .

Speaker #4: You're faced with this risk . So you want to be sure you have the , you know , the balance sheet that you can work through .

Speaker #4: Those , those periods and the and the second thing is that , that solutions are coming , that the industry midstream industry is , is very responsive to this .

Speaker #4: And finding ways out . And I'm pleased to report today , Anton , you have a better handle . But gas are the selling price is a buck 50 .

[Analyst]: Yeah. This is Greg Krug, Assistant Vice President, Marketing and Midstream Strategy. Joe, with Correct Cash, has gotten a little bit stronger out there as well at Waha. We anticipated some of this, and we went out and put in hedges for 2026, where we have a big hedge position to protect downside risk on Waha. As we know, all these pipelines are coming online in 2026. We'll have CCX expansion mid-2026 for 0.5 BCF. Blackcomb will come on for 2.5 BCF, and Hugh Brinson will come on at 1.5 BCF. That is all going to happen in 2026, which should alleviate some of this downward pressure on Waha prices going forward when you start looking at the end of 2026.

Speaker #4: Now . Yeah . This is an Langland executive vice . president of marketing Joe is correct . Cash has gotten a .

Speaker #5: A little bit stronger out there at.

Speaker #4: Waha ,

Speaker #5: And we . anticipated some of this . And so we went out and .

Speaker #4: Put in hedges .

Speaker #5: For 2026 .

Speaker #3: Where we .

Speaker #5: Have a big .

Speaker #4: Hedge position to protect downside risk.

Speaker #5: On Waha. As we know, all these pipelines are coming online in 2026. We'll have.

Speaker #4: TC .

Speaker #5: Expansion .

Speaker #4: Mid 26 for half .

Speaker #5: A BCF .

Speaker #4: Blackcomb will come on for . 2.5 BCF .

Speaker #5: And Hugh Brinson will .

Speaker #4: Come on . at 1.5 BCF .

Speaker #5: And that's all going to happen in 2026 ,

Speaker #4: Which should .

Speaker #5: Alleviate some .

Speaker #4: Of this .

Speaker #5: Pressure. There is downward pressure on prices going forward. When you start looking at the end of 2026 and 2027, it should be a great time for Waha production and our gas. This will give us a lot more opportunities to produce more of our gas wells that we have in inventory that we haven't drilled yet.

[Analyst]: The 2027 should be a great time for Waha production in our gas and give us a lot more opportunities to produce more of our gas fuel wells that we have in inventory that we haven't drilled yet because of these lower gas prices. In 2027 and 2028, we'll have a lot of opportunities to drill a lot of gas fuel expansions out there.

Speaker #5: Because of these lower gas prices . But in 2728 , we'll have a lot of opportunity to drill a lot of gas here , benches out there .

Mac Schmitz: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Zach Prim from JPMorgan Chase & Co. Your question, please.

Speaker #2: Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Zach Parham from JP Morgan. Your question, please.

[Analyst]: Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask on well productivity. Just looking at the publicly available state data, your well productivity on a per lateral foot basis is down a little bit year over year in 2025, though relatively in line with where you were in 2022 and 2023 as 2024 was a really strong year. I know there'll always be some variability in productivity data just given the geographical mix of wells and various lateral lengths. Could you talk a little bit about your expectations for well productivity going forward and how you see that trending into 2026?

Speaker #12: Yes . Thanks for taking my question . I wanted to ask on well , productivity . Just looking at the publicly available state data .

Speaker #12: You're well productivity on a per lateral foot basis is down a little bit year over year in 2025, though relatively in line with where you were in 2022 and 2023. 2024 was a really strong year.

Speaker #12: I know there'll always be some variability in productivity data , just given the geographical mix of wells and various lateral links , but could you talk a little bit about your expectations for , well , productivity going forward and how you see that trending into 2026 ?

Mac Schmitz: Hey, Zach. This is Tom Ellison, our EVP for Reservoir Engineering. You're going into 2026. We have a very strong program. We expect the same or better BO per foot in 2026 as we have seen in 2025. Coupled with all the commentary about these longer laterals, we expect to see lateral lengths increase approximately 10% going into 2026. That should be really positive for the total EURs, really positive for the capital efficiencies, lowering the well costs. These are very strong projects, as we've talked about, with rate of returns over 50%. These are $1.1, $1.2 million BOE wells. These are very strong wells that are very durable at a wide variety of lower oil and gas prices. I think that the team should be commended for all the hard work and cooperation they've put together. I think it's quite the opportunity to bring these wells forward.

Speaker #13: Hey Zach , this is Tom Olson , our EVP for Reservoir Engineering . You're going into 2026 . We have a very strong program .

Speaker #13: We expect the same or better per foot in 2026 . As we have seen in 2025 , coupled with the all the commentary about these longer laterals , we expect to see lateral length increase approximately 10% going into 2026 .

Speaker #13: So that should be really positive for the for the total year , really positive for the capital efficiencies , lowering well costs . These are very strong projects .

Speaker #13: As we've talked about with greater returns over 50% . And these are 1.1 1.2 million BOE wells . These very strong wells that are very durable at a wide variety of lower oil and gas prices .

Speaker #13: I think that the team should be commended for all the hard work and cooperation that they've put together. I think it's quite the opportunity to bring these wells forward.

Mac Schmitz: As Chris mentioned, things have gone better than expected operationally. The teams coordinating with midstream to have all the permits, the pipelines, all the drilling and execution, all the completions, all the wells turned online, on time and under budget, I think has really been something that we're proud of, and we expect to see that going forward. I think it'll continue on beyond 2026. I think that a lot of these really high-quality Wolfcamp and Bonespring wells have been pushed further north. One example of that has been our Avalon well that we've highlighted in the release at Gavilon. That's a well that has produced over 280,000 barrels of oil in the first 12 months of life, and it's already paid out and will continue to pay out many more times into the future.

Speaker #13: As Chris mentioned , things have gone better than expected . Operationally , the team's coordinating with with midstream to have all the permits , the pipelines , all the drilling and execution , all the completions , all the wells turned online on time and under budget .

Speaker #13: I think has has really been been something that really been something that we're proud of and we expect to see that going forward .

Speaker #13: I think it will continue on beyond 2026. I think that a lot of these really high-quality Wolfcamp and Bone Spring wells have been pushed further north, and as one example of that, has been our Avalon.

Speaker #13: Well , that we've highlighted in the release at Avalon , that's a well that has produced over 280,000 barrels of oil in the first 12 months of life , and it's already paid out , and we'll continue to pay out many more times into the future .

Mac Schmitz: I think our inventory is very strong, and we're very, very excited for the wells we're putting up on the board for this year.

Speaker #13: So I think our our inventory is very strong and we're very , very excited for the wells we're putting up on the on the board for this year .

Mac Schmitz: Thank you. Our final question for today comes from the line of Kevin Moreland MacCurdy from Pickering. Your question, please.

Speaker #2: Thank you. And our final question for today comes from the line of Kevin McCurdy from Pickering Energy Partners. Your question, please.

[Analyst]: Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just continuing to touch on the midstream angle, what is the impact of the increased activity on the San Mateo volumes and EBITDA outlook? Thanks.

Speaker #14: Hey , good morning . Thanks for taking my question . Just continuing to touch on the midstream angle . What is the impact of the increased activity on the San Mateo volumes and EBITDA outlook ?

Speaker #14: Thanks .

Brian J. Willey: Yeah. This is Brian J. Willey, Executive Vice President, Midstream. You know, that partnership we have with Matador is critical to us. It's about 70% to 80% of our revenues come from Matador. As Matador grows, oftentimes that leads to growth in San Mateo as well, just depending on where the growth is. I think we'll have more to talk specifically about that next year when we lay out our plan. That's a great partnership that we have with Matador. It's something that, as you look at the capital expenditures for next year, Glenn mentioned earlier the Matador-owned capital expenditures. I think we had mentioned in the release the 8% to 12% capital expenditure increase. Approximately $90 million to $100 million of that is midstream, whether that's San Mateo and our share of the 51% or whether that's Matador-owned.

Speaker #4: Yeah . This is Brian Williams , vice president , midstream . You know that partnership we have with with Matador is critical to us .

Speaker #4: It's about 70 to 80% of our revenues come from Adidas . And so as Matador grows , oftentimes that leads to growth at San Mateo as well , just depending on where the growth is .

Speaker #4: So I think we'll have more to talk specifically about that . Of course , next year when we lay out our plan . But that's a great partnership that we have with with Matador .

Speaker #4: And it's something that, as you look at the capital expenditures for next year, Glenn mentioned earlier the Matador-owned capital expenditures. I think we had mentioned in the release the 8% to 12% capital expenditure increase, and approximately $90 million to $100 million of that is midstream.

Speaker #4: Whether that's San Mateo and our share of the 51%, or whether that's Matador-owned. And so, we have some really great projects on tap for next year to continue to grow.

Brian J. Willey: We have some really great projects on tap for next year to continue to grow the company and continue to expand the business as we support Matador.

Speaker #4: The company will continue to expand the business as we support Matador.

Mac Schmitz: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this ends the Q&A portion of this morning's call. I'd like to hand the call back to management for any closing remarks.

Speaker #2: Thank you , ladies and gentlemen . This ends the Q&A portion of this morning's call . I'd like to hand the call back to management for any closing remarks .

Joseph Wm. Foran: Thank you very much. Thank everybody for spending the time in here with us. Again, I repeat, if you want more information or have more questions, you'll find us successful. Rob will be happy to take your questions and get answers for you. We try to pride. I didn't come up through private equity, but came up through friends and relatives. With friends and relatives, they have a higher standard for communication and being accessible. We want to maintain that. You know, a lot of people, as I said, I think one of the issues just confronting it directly is, quote, "capital spending. Are we outspending our cash flow?" I think the answer is clearly not. If you don't believe the accounting that we've grown from a deficit to over $3 billion, having made good decisions, then look at it this way.

Speaker #4: Thank you very much . And thanks , everybody , for spending the time in here with us . And again , I repeat , if you want more information or have more questions , you'll find us successful .

Speaker #4: Rob will be happy to take your questions and get answers for you . And we try to pry . I didn't come up through private equity , but came up through friends and relatives and with friends and relatives .

Speaker #4: They have a higher standard for communication and being accessible , and we want to maintain that . You know , a lot of people , as I said , I think one of the issues just confronted directly is , quote , capital spending .

Speaker #4: Are we outspending our cash flow ? And I think the answer is clearly not . If you don't believe the accounting that we've grown from a deficit to over 3 billion , having made good decisions , then look at it .

Speaker #4: This way. I've never sold a share of stock in Matador, and we have a whole group of executives that haven't either.

Joseph Wm. Foran: I've never sold a share of stock in Matador. We have a whole group of executives that haven't either. As far as the employees go, we have an employee share purchase plan with over 95% participation. The people that know the company best, we're buyers, basically, not sellers. We can see the future coming up. We don't look upon it. We look more upon the quality of the rock and the quality of the operations as opposed to what the oil price per barrel is because you can have a very high oil price and the capital decisions, they don't have good operations, or something else can affect it. They're spending too much on their bank debt and are in a bad position. Over 40 years, remember, we started with just at $270,000. Over 40 years, we've grown to this point. It's from having a good decision-making process.

Speaker #4: And the as far as the employees go , we have a employee share purchase plan with over 95% participation . So the people that know the company best , we're we're buyers , basically , not sellers .

Speaker #4: And we can see the future coming up . And we don't look upon it . We look upon the more upon the quality of the rock and quality of the operations , as opposed to what the oil price per barrel is because you can have a a very high oil price and the capital decisions , they don't have good operations or someone else can affect it , that they're spending too much on their bank debt and are in a bad position .

Speaker #4: But over 40 years , remember , we started with just that 270,000 . So over 40 years we've grown to this point . And it's from having a good decision making process .

Joseph Wm. Foran: Not that we've never made a bad decision, but not many of them. Made a whole lot more in times of oil price being shaken for one reason or another. I've pointed out some of those instances. If you keep going and be that much more selective in your decisions, you can build an organization and there are more good people to become available. It's worked to our advantage. Not that I welcome $50 oil for a sustained period, but it's not fatal either if you've maintained your balance sheet all through time and your bank relationships. You just have to be a little more careful. The midstream has helped because it's fee-based and it gives us further balance. As we say around here, we like our chances.

Speaker #4: Not that we've never made a bad decision, but not many of them. And we've made a whole lot more in times of oil prices being shaken for one reason or another.

Speaker #4: And I have pointed out some of those instances. But if you keep going and be that much more selective in your decisions, you can build an organization, and there are more good people to become available.

Speaker #4: And it's worked to our advantage , not that I welcome $50 oil for a sustained period , but it's not fatal either . If you've maintained your balance sheet all through time and your bank relationships , you just have to be a little more careful .

Speaker #4: The midstream has helped because it's a fee based and gives us further balance . So , as we say around here , we like our chances .

Joseph Wm. Foran: I think if you come to visit and meet the staff, you'll say, "These are people I could trust with my," I won't say it's your life savings, but you could trust your investment, because we've come a long, a long way. You got a 40-year history to look at. We're pretty optimistic. We see the opportunities growing for us rather than being reduced. I think this period going into the fourth quarter, frankly, we've never looked so good with more options than we had before and more targets of opportunity for 2026. We're excited. I do think that as helpful as these questions are on these kind of calls, it's even better to come see us, have breakfast or lunch with us, or even dinner and meet the people behind these capital decisions and see that, "Hey, they're reasonable people.

Speaker #4: And I think if you come to visit and meet the staff , you'll say , these are people I could trust with my I won't say it's your life savings , but you could trust your investment because we've come along a long way .

Speaker #4: You got a 40 year history to look at and we're pretty optimistic . And we see the opportunities growing for us rather than being reduced and and I think this , this period going into the fourth quarter , frankly , we've never looked so good with more options than we had before .

Speaker #4: And and and more targets of opportunity for 2026 . So we're we're excited . But I do think that as helpful as these questions are on these kind of calls , it's even better to come see us have breakfast or lunch with us or even dinner and meet the people behind these capital decisions and see that , hey there , they're reasonable people .

Joseph Wm. Foran: They're professional." They wouldn't be spending the money on this well or that well if they didn't have a high degree of trust and confidence in it. I think that's what you get for investing in Matador Resources Company. We do have a sheet that says, "Why Matador?" It's at the back of your earnings release. I really encourage everybody to look through those exhibits. I think they tell the story in 5 to 10 minutes of why Matador. An original investor in first Matador was in at $0.85. We, you know, sold for $18.95. An original shareholder in this Matador is in for $3.56. It's come a long way. We like our chances, better today than ever. I think we thank the board for working with us. We think they're distinguished. It's a good process. We rank up there.

Speaker #4: They're professional, and they wouldn't be spending the money on this well or that well if they did have a high degree of trust and confidence in it.

Speaker #4: And I think that's what you get for investing in Matador . We do have a sheet that says , Why Matador ? It's at the back of your the earnings release .

Speaker #4: And really encourage everybody to look through those exhibits . And I think they tell the story in 5 to 10 minutes of why Matador and an original investor in Matador was in it .

Speaker #4: $0.85 . And we , you know , sold for 18.95 . And an original shareholder in Matador is in for $3.56 . So it's come a long way .

Speaker #4: And we like our chances . And better today than , than ever . And I think we thank the board for working with us .

Speaker #4: We think they're distinguished . And it's a good process . We rank up there , can tell you more where we rank in New Mexico , but it's a top five , top ten , type of company company .

Joseph Wm. Foran: Van can tell you more where we rank in New Mexico, but it's a top 5, top 10 type of company. Start out with, you have on page four how little we started with back in the early 1990s to where we are today. Please give it serious consideration. If you want more information, we're here. If you want a personal, in-person discussion to, if that would give you greater comfort, just give Mac a call and he'll schedule it. We'll enjoy meeting you. We would like to wish we could meet every one of our shareholders, so they would have that personal relationship. Thank you very much for your attention today. Come see us. We like our chances. We feel very comfortable that next year is going to be a good year for us one way or the other. Thank you.

Speaker #4: So, start out with "you have on page four" how little we started with back in the early '90s to where we are today.

Speaker #4: So please give it serious consideration . And if you're want more information , we're here . And if you want to personal in-person discussion to if that would give you greater comfort , just give Mac a call and he'll schedule it and we'll enjoy meeting you .

Speaker #4: We would like to wish we could meet every one of our shareholders so they would have that personal relationship . So thank you very much for your attention today .

Speaker #4: And come see us. We like our chances, and we feel very comfortable that next year is going to be a good year for us, one way or the other.

Speaker #4: Thank you .

Mac Schmitz: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.

Speaker #2: Thank you , ladies and gentlemen , for your participation in today's conference . This does conclude the program . You may now disconnect .