Q3 2025 DPM Metals Inc Earnings Call
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Speaker #2: Thank you, and good morning. I'm Jennifer Cameron, Director of Investor Relations, and I'd like to welcome you to the DPM third quarter conference call.
Speaker #2: Joining us today are members of our senior management team, including David Rae, President and CEO, and Navindra Dyal, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind you that all four looking information provided during this call is subject to the four looking qualification, which is detailed in our news release and incorporated in full for the purposes of today's call.
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Speaker #2: Please refer to the non-GAAP financial measures section of our most recent MD&A for reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures. Please note that unless otherwise stated, operational and financial information communicated during this call relates to continuing operations and has generally been rounded.
Speaker #2: References to 2024 pertain to the comparable periods in 2024, and references to averages are based on midpoints and were outlook or guidance. I'll now turn the call over to David Rae.
Speaker #3: Good morning, and thank you all for joining us. I'm proud to report that DPM delivered record financial results during the quarter. Including record revenue, earnings, and free cash flows.
Speaker #3: Results that reflect reliable high-margin production from our portfolio and the strength of the current gold price environment. Highlights from the third quarter include solid production of 64,000 gold ounces and 7.8 million pounds of copper, continued strong margins with an all-in sustaining cost of 1,168 dollars per ounce of gold sold, compared to an average realized gold price of 3,635 dollars an ounce.
Speaker #3: Record free cash flow generation of 148 million dollars, which further strengthens our financial capacity to fund growth. During the quarter, we achieved a major milestone with a closing of the Adriatic acquisition.
Speaker #3: Successfully bringing the high-grade varish operation into our portfolio and transforming our long-term production profile. I'm pleased to report that integration activities are progressing very well.
Speaker #3: From day one, we've focused on embedding DPM's health and safety practices at Varish, including the well-being of our people, and this remains our top priority.
Speaker #3: We've also begun to transform training programs for local personnel and engaging with stakeholders. Important steps as we build a strong foundation for long-term success.
Speaker #3: Looking ahead, we're advancing our priorities at Varish, including driving the decline to the bottom of the ore body and advancing construction at the pace of the backfill plant.
Speaker #3: We're on target to achieve a ramp-up to an 850,000 ton per annum rate by the end of next year. I'm also pleased to note that we are now expecting higher production at Varish in 2026 than previously anticipated, as a result of higher gold and silver grades compared to the Varish PFS.
Speaker #3: We will provide a detailed update on our expectations for 2026, along with our three-year outlook in February. Turning now to review our operations in more detail, and starting with Cellopatch.
Speaker #3: We produced 44,000 ounces of Cellopatch gold and 7.8 million pounds of copper. With an all-in sustaining cost of $671 per ounce of gold sold, cash costs of $63 per ton of ore processed were on target for the quarter, reflecting Cellopatch's track record of solid, efficient operations. The miners are on track to meet targets for 2025, subject to market dynamics.
Speaker #3: We continue to prioritize in-mine and brownfields exploration work to further to meet its 2025 guidance extend mine life at Cellopatch, targeting a 10-year plus reserve underground drilling was primarily focused on the wedge zone deep target.
Speaker #3: Which is located on the northern flank of the Cellopatch mine concession, approximately 300 meters below existing mineral reserves. This newly discovered zone of high sulfidation mineralization is presented as a zone of continuous high-grade mineralization life.
Speaker #3: 150 meters downhole and has been outlined in two close-based drill holes to date. Further drilling is in progress from multiple locations to better understand the extent of the mineralization.
Speaker #3: Production of Adatepe increased in the third quarter as anticipated, producing approximately 19,400 ounces. During the quarter, sustaining costs were $1,030 per ounce of gold sold.
Speaker #3: Adatepe is on track to achieve its guidance for the ounces of gold with an all-in year. Turning now to the Loma Larga project in Ecuador, I want to provide an update on recent developments in our path forward.
Speaker #3: At the end of September, we released the results of an updated feasibility study, which highlighted the potential for the project to deliver attractive returns.
Speaker #3: During the second quarter, we achieved a significant milestone with the issuance of the environmental license. This was the result of a rigorous process to ensure high Ecuadorian standards were applied to the development of the project.
Speaker #3: We're confident that our environmental management plan and robust environmental protection measures not only complied with those standards, but also reflect DPM's proven track record of responsible development and our commitment to international best practices.
Speaker #3: However, in October, we received notification from the Ministry of Environment license for Loma Larga was revoked. We are evaluating all available options to preserve value and optionality for our shareholders, and Energy that the environmental including assessing legal avenues.
Speaker #3: In line with our capital discipline, we're planning to minimize further spending on the project until this issue is resolved and have reverted back to our original guidance for 2025.
Speaker #3: We continue to focus on developing quality growth assets such as choka rakita. The feasibility study is advancing on schedule and on track for completion by year-end.
Speaker #3: We successfully completed all surface and underground geotechnical and hydrogeological drilling, and we're now moving the design level. Planning for project forward to the basic engineering execution and operational readiness is proceeding as planned.
Speaker #3: Ensuring that we are well positioned for the next phase of development. As we noted in our news release last night, most of the baseline studies required for the environmental and social impact assessment have been completed.
Speaker #3: The certificate of resources and reserves has been approved by the technical committee, and we look forward to initiating the special purpose spatial plan once approved to do so.
Speaker #3: Based on an updated permitting timeline, we now expect mine construction to commence in early 2027, with first production of concentrate targeted for the first half of 2029.
Speaker #3: We are maintaining close and proactive engagement with the relevant authorities to support this permitting process, and we remain confident in the overall progress at choka rakita.
Speaker #3: Key technical work streams are advancing as planned, and our proactive stakeholder engagement continues to support our path forward. Sorry, our path toward receiving the necessary approvals and advancing development activities on schedule.
Speaker #3: We're closely monitoring permitting timelines and implementing mitigation measures to ensure that we're ready to move forward with construction as soon as approvals are in place.
Speaker #3: In terms of our exploration activities at the rakita camp, we continue to be excited by the impressive drill results which are clearly demonstrating the existence of large copper gold system analogous to other large porphyry scan systems globally.
Speaker #3: Results from Demetra Potock are continuing to confirm the presence of a large high-grade gold silver scan system, copper gold silver scan system, with mineralization concentrated along both the eastern and western sides of an intrusion.
Speaker #3: In September, we released results from one of the most significant incepts at Demetra Potock to date, with 102,32 meters grading over 3.9% copper. Down the same hole, there was a 20-meter gap and then another 76 meters at 2.47% copper equivalent.
Speaker #3: On the western side of the intrusion, we extended the widest extent of mineralization by approximately 200 meters to the south, and drilling to date has outlined about 600 meters of strike length of high-grade scan contact mineralization.
Speaker #3: We also continued to see strong results in the Rakita North, Phrasin, and Biocica prospects, all located within one to two kilometers from Choka Rakita.
Speaker #3: Located adjacent to planned Choka Rakita infrastructure, Demetra Potock has the potential to unlock additional value and growth potential for an already high-margin, high-return organic project.
Speaker #3: We are targeting resource estimates for the Demetra Potock rakita north and phrasin targets by year-end, and have increased our exploration budget as we continue to target high potential areas within the six-kilometer trend that we have identified to date.
Speaker #3: Based on drilling to date, mineralization has been detected over a one-kilometer strike length up to 300 meters vertically and up to 500 meters away from the intrusion.
Speaker #3: I want to pause for a moment to acknowledge the significant contribution of Paul Iwashkunu, our Vice President of Exploration, who tragically and unexpectedly passed away in October.
Speaker #3: Paul was more than a leader at DPM. His passion, mentorship, which developed an impressive exploration team, and his unwavering commitment to our values has left a deep impression on all of those who worked with him.
Speaker #3: Under his leadership, our exploration team's efforts have significantly transformed the future of DPM, driving the discovery of choka rakita, Demetra Potock, and identifying many other opportunities.
Speaker #3: On behalf of all of us at DPM, I extend our deepest sympathies to his family and friends, who we are keeping in our thoughts.
Speaker #3: I'll now turn the call over to Navindra for a review of the financial results.
Speaker #2: Thanks, Dave. I would also like to acknowledge Paul's contribution and our condolences to his family and his friends. Returning to our quarter results, I'll be touching briefly on the financial highlights for the quarter, provide an update on our guidance for the year, and conclude with some commentary on our balance sheet.
Speaker #2: All of my remarks will focus on results from continuing operations, unless otherwise noted. Looking at our financial results, third quarter highlights include revenue of 267 million, adjusted net earnings of 129 million, or 73 cents per share, cash flow provided from operating activities of 185 million, and free cash flow of 148 million.
Speaker #2: Overall, we saw record financial results during the quarter, which reflected our strong operating performance, the low-cost nature of our operation, a favorable commodity price environment, and the initial contributions from Varish following the closing of the acquisition of Adriatic on September 3rd of this year.
Speaker #2: Looking at our earnings and cash flow in more detail, revenue was 267 million in the third quarter, an increase of 120 million compared to 2024 due to higher realized metal prices and higher volumes of gold sold.
Speaker #2: As well as the inclusion of $42 million of post-acquisition revenue from Varish. Adjusted net earnings in the third quarter of $129 million, or $0.73 per share, increased by $83 million compared to the prior year, due primarily to higher revenue, partially offset by higher mark-to-market adjustments to share-based compensation expenses, higher depreciation expense, and a stronger euro relative to the US dollar.
Speaker #2: Adjusting items for the quarter, not reflective of the underlying operations of the company, include a $25 million non-cash fair value adjustment on inventories at Varish, recognized in cost of sales.
Speaker #2: And Adriatic acquisition-related costs incurred by DPM totaling $10 million. Cash flow provided from operating activities of $185 million for the quarter was higher than the prior year, due mainly to higher earnings generated during the period and the timing of sales and payments to suppliers.
Speaker #2: Free cash flow, which is calculated before changes in working capital, was $148 million for the quarter, an increase of $77 million compared to 2024, due primarily to higher adjusted net earnings generated in the quarter.
Speaker #2: Taking a look at our cost metrics, all in sustaining costs per ounce of gold sold for the first nine months of 2025 of 1136, or 32% higher than 2024, due primarily to higher market-to-market adjustments to share-based compensation expenses, lower volumes of gold sold, and a stronger euro relative to the US dollar.
Speaker #2: Partially offset by lower freight charges. Market-to-market adjustments to share-based compensation expenses resulted in an increase of 193 dollars per ounce of gold sold compared to an increase of 43 dollars per ounce of gold sold in 2024.
Speaker #2: We continue to expect our 2025 all-in sustaining costs to be between $780 and $900 per ounce of gold sold, keeping in mind that our all-in sustaining cost guidance remains subject to external factors, such as the mark-to-market impact of DPM's share price, as well as metal prices and foreign exchange movements relative to our guidance assumptions.
Speaker #2: In terms of our capital spending, sustaining capital expenditures of 9 million for the quarter were lower than 2024 due primarily to lower expenditures on mobile equipment at Shellfetch, as expected, and lower deferred stripping costs as a result of lower stripping ratios at Adatepe in line with the mine plan.
Speaker #2: Gross capital expenditures of $10 million for the quarter, excluding $2 million of capital spending at Varish, were higher than in 2024 as a result of costs related to the Choka Rakita project being capitalized from the beginning of this year.
Speaker #2: Last night, we provided updated guidance for 2025, reflecting our success year to date with our exploration activities in Serbia. Based on positive results, exploration expenses are now expected to be between 49 million and 54 million, up 5 million.
Speaker #2: In July, we had increased our gross capital expenditures related to Loma Larga. However, following the revocation of the environmental license, we now expect 2025 gross capital expenditures for the project to remain at the original guidance range of $12 million to $14 million in 2025.
Speaker #2: And we plan to minimize spending at the Loma Larga project until the issue with the environmental license is resolved. Our three-year outlook does not reflect the operating and financial results of Varish.
Speaker #2: As we expect minimal production for the balance of 2025, consistent with the Varish technical report that we filed in June of this year. As the Varish mine ramps up to achieving commercial production by the end of 2026, the mine's 2026 production is now expected to be better than previously anticipated, with higher ore process and higher gold and silver grades when compared to the Varish technical report.
Speaker #2: We will provide an updated three-year outlook for Varish along with our corporate guidance in February 2026. We continue to maintain a strong balance sheet and cash position.
Speaker #2: At the end of the quarter, after spending 400 million in cash for the Adriatic transaction, 136 million to retire Adriatic's debt, and a total of 137 million returned to shareholders through dividends and share buybacks under the company's normal course issuer bid or NCIB, our consolidated cash position was 414 million.
Speaker #2: With our strong free cash flow generation, a balance sheet with no debt, and a $150 million undrawn revolving credit facility, we are in a unique position with the financial strength to fund our peer-leading growth pipeline, invest in compelling exploration prospects, while continuing to return a portion of our free cash flow to our shareholders.
Speaker #2: In closing, we continue to deliver strong performance from our mining operations and continue our track record of generating significant free cash flow. We remain in a strong cash position, and our focus on our growth.
Speaker #2: I will now turn the call back to Dave for his concluding remarks. Thanks, Nevin. This is an exciting time for DPM and our shareholders as we look to our future as a growing precious metals producer.
Speaker #2: Offering a peer-leading development pipeline, a strong balance sheet, and capital returns, all of which are underpinned by our exceptional operational track record. Our portfolio is generating solid consistent results, and we are very well positioned as one of the lowest cost, highest growth producers.
Speaker #2: We are generating strong free cash flow and delivering peer-leading returns to shareholders. We're focused on executing a safe, efficient, ramp-up at Varish. We're nearing completion on the choka rakita feasibility study, we have substantial financial strength to fund growth opportunities and exploration, and we are focused on executing our strategy to deliver above-average returns for our shareholders as a mid-tier precious metals company.
Speaker #2: At DPM, as a clear path forward, and we're very excited about our future. I'd now like to open the call for
Speaker #2: any questions. Thank
Speaker #3: you. As a reminder to ask a question, please press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again.
Speaker #3: Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. And our first question comes from Fahad Tariq of Jefferies; your line is open.
Speaker #4: Hi, thanks for taking my question. First on Varish, you mentioned that you expect 2026 production to be higher than previously anticipated. I appreciate we'll get the guidance in the first quarter, but maybe just talk about where the higher tonnage is coming from.
Speaker #4: The higher gold grades and silver grades, I believe, are probably a function of re-sequencing and maybe ore sorting. But where is the higher tonnage coming from?
Speaker #4: What process improvement is leading to
Speaker #4: that? Thanks. Yeah, there's
Speaker #2: nothing on ore sorting. Just to be clear, in terms of our outlook, what it's coming from is we've brought in our teams to work with the Varish team that we've acquired, and we worked on what we can do during the course of next year.
Speaker #2: That primarily focused on development initially, and then, as we open up the different ore bodies, what that then means in terms of our access to those ore bodies, translating to tonnages, grades, but also including things like mine recovery, dilution, and so on.
Speaker #2: As we've done that, we've recognized an ability to do more. Then was in the original plan in terms of copper and gold grades, silver grades, and also tonnages.
Speaker #2: And a lot of that will come down to the efficiencies. So this is based on progress that was made ahead of acquisition and in month one after acquisition, as well as our assessment with the capital investments that we've been making that can increase the reliability throughput rates and sort of online times that we can anticipate.
Speaker #2: So basically, it's relatively early still, but based on what we've seen so far, we are optimistic that the PFS has been conservative in terms of its output.
Speaker #2: Just the last comment, it doesn't mean that on day one in January that we start off out of the gate at the tonnage that we've described and you just divide by 365.
Speaker #2: Of course, I know you realize that, but we'll give some indication of what that ramp is going to be during 2026, but you'll notice we've been quite deliberate about meeting the 850,000 tons rate in the last quarter of next year.
Speaker #4: then maybe switching gears to culture rakita and the permitting, can you just provide any additional color on the level of dialogue with the government, maybe what led to the, it's a slight delay, but what led to the slight delay in the timeline and yeah, just anything else you're keeping an eye
Speaker #4: So as you'll understand, we're ...
Speaker #2: actually busy completing the next phase of reporting with the technical report. So there's obviously a revision that comes in as part of that. So we've looked at the overall situation ongoing discussions with the government are very fruitful.
Speaker #2: We're very happy with that. Our ongoing discussions with our stakeholders are the same. We've just taken the view of where we are at this point and what we anticipate, recognizing that we needed to revise that guidance.
Speaker #2: So what we've done is added four to six months to that guidance. At the moment, if we look specifically at what's going on, there was an activity in mid-year where a number of the different ministries were involved with some technical experts, what we call the technical committee. They looked at the certificate of resources and reserves, where we've provided some fulsome disclosure and information, which allowed that technical group to be able to come to a conclusion.
Speaker #2: They supported the project and that the decision then triggers looking towards a spatial planner where we're just waiting for a confirmation that we could actually start to proceed with that.
Speaker #2: So in the meantime, none of these things happened as a start-stop sequence. We were due preparation while we were waiting for these triggers to occur so that we're ready to engage fully in terms of, you know, we're not waiting for these things to happen before we get ready with all the information.
Speaker #2: So, it is one of these situations where we continue to work with the authorities. We continue to provide the information, provide answers to any questions that come up, but I would say that I'm very happy with the relationships that we have ongoing.
Speaker #2: And we're confident that we'll be receiving the SPSP within the near future, which will allow us to move this project forward. There's a number of different activities that have got to happen, but really we're focusing on the ESIA baseline studies and the release of the EIA and the exploitation permit, which would then trigger the construction for choker rakita.
Speaker #2: So where we previously said that timeline would be mid-2026, we're now saying early 2027.
Speaker #4: Got it. And then maybe just a quick one for Navind. I think in the MD&A and in the comments, there was discussion about the strengthening of the euro.
Speaker #4: Is there an FX strategy, a hedging strategy at the
Speaker #4: company? We do have
Speaker #3: the ability to put on hedges. We've actually utilized, if you recall, we used to hedge maybe a dollar when we had the smelter we look at that periodically in terms of whether or not we should be hedging.
Speaker #3: Typically, what we've done is, though, is that when we have significant capital expenditures that, for example, in the upcoming capital spend for choker rakita, we might look to otherwise hedge the FX exposure related to that.
Speaker #3: But for ongoing business, especially when it comes to euro, you're looking at historically, I've tended to look at view gold and euro kind of moving in the same direction.
Speaker #3: As the strengthening of the euro happens, you typically see the gold market kind of improving as well. So it acts as a bit of a natural hedge.
Speaker #3: So we kind of just kind of watch that. And then if there's any change to that assumption, then we might take some positions there.
Speaker #3: But typically not in the past when it comes to
Speaker #4: Okay, thank
Speaker #4: much.
Speaker #1: Thank euro.
Speaker #1: You, and our next question comes from Wayne Lamb of TD Securities. Your line is open.
Speaker #5: Yeah, thanks. Morning, guys. Maybe just a follow-up at the Choker Rakita. Just wondering if there's any read-throughs or knock-on impacts from Rio Tinto's mine being deferred in terms of permitting implications, or do you guys see the two projects as fairly mutually exclusive?
Speaker #5: exclusive? Yeah, we see them as
Speaker #2: mutually
Speaker #2: exclusive. Okay, great.
Speaker #5: Thanks. And then maybe at a Tepe can you give us an update on the expected timing in terms of the wind-down operations? Is that still slated for mid-year next year or is there any ability to extend out the operations incrementally given the higher gold price?
Speaker #2: Yeah, thanks, Wayne. So we're still planning that we'll wind down mining and process operations in Q2 next year. No change to that. Sorry, so changing in gold price environment, does that mean that that opens up the opportunity for other material to be brought
Speaker #2: Yeah, thanks, Wayne. So we're still planning that we'll wind down mining and process operations in Q2 next year. No change to that. Sorry, so changing in gold price environment, does that mean that that opens up the opportunity for other material to be brought in?
Speaker #2: No.
Speaker #5: Yeah,
Speaker #2: In exactly. In terms of infrastructure, sorry. Thank you for your question, though. We still plan to obviously disassemble the main infrastructure, which is primarily around the process plants.
Speaker #2: So crushers, mills, other pumping, piping, buildings, this type of thing. The plan will be that we'll start to disassemble that at the end of that period where we close the mine operations, close the process operations.
Speaker #2: And then we'll disassemble that and we'll refurbish it a good part of that still at a Tepe and some part of that in Chalapeach.
Speaker #2: And then it'll be stored ready for movement to Choker Rakita. Basically, as we get the infrastructure in place and we have the civils ready to receive the equipment, it'll be moved to time with that.
Speaker #5: Okay, but with the higher gold price, so there's no potential for further extension even with the higher gold price?
Speaker #2: No.
Speaker #2: No. Okay.
Speaker #5: And then maybe just last one at Chalapeach. Can you talk a bit about the cost pressures you're seeing there on the labor side? And if we think about the levy that was paid in Bulgaria in Q1, should we be thinking about something similar as we think about the year-end here, particularly with the stronger metals price environment, or was that a one-off
Speaker #5: event? Hi, Wayne.
Speaker #3: Yes, let’s consider that by starting with the last question first. That levy we’re considering is a one-off event. We’ve got no indications that would suggest that this would be repeated for next year.
Speaker #3: When it comes to pressures on labor, we have every two years we have renegotiated agreements with our workforce. And we just completed one this year and hence why we're seeing that kind of translated to this year's cost.
Speaker #3: We planned for this as well. And we take an appropriate amount in our consideration to our budget. I think that's just something that we're seeing not just in Bulgaria, but elsewhere globally.
Speaker #3: I mean, I think labor is sticky when it comes to increases. And whereas we're seeing benefits elsewhere, such as our freight costs, which have been reduced significantly over the past year, labor certainly is one that we continue to see increases there.
Speaker #3: But again, our workforce is extremely skilled as you would appreciate in Bulgaria. And we consider that in the negotiations as well.
Speaker #5: Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions.
Speaker #3: Thanks.
Speaker #1: you. And as a reminder, if you have a question, please press star 11. And our next question comes from Raj Ray of BMO. Your line is
Speaker #1: open. Thank you all for it.
Speaker #3: And good morning, David and team. First of all, I’m deeply saddened to hear about the news on Paul. My sincere condolences to the entire DPM team.
Speaker #3: I've got a couple of questions. First up on Choker Rakita. With the feasibility study expected, Dave, is there any change of scope or anything you can highlight that we should be looking forward to?
Speaker #3: And also in terms of the resource update, what is expected to be included in that? And secondly, on capital returns, it's probably for Navind.
Speaker #3: Is there potential for a boost in capital returns? I see in Q3 there weren't any buybacks. So, is it going to Q4? Is there potential for boosting of capital?
Speaker #2: Okay, yeah, thanks, Raj. In terms of changes of scope, we've got the feasibility study coming out in the fairly near future. So I would suggest let's wait for that to come out.
Speaker #2: It gives you an awful lot more detail. But what I would say is we're very happy with the way that's progressing at no sort of nasty surprises with that.
Speaker #2: So, in looking forward to really getting on with that construction, I think the one thing that we've seen sort of touched on, but perhaps maybe some still missed, I'll make this comment for everybody here. We alluded to the fact that having Varesh put us in a very good position in terms of our operational readiness.
Speaker #2: So one of the things to keep in mind is we're testing things that we've developed at Chalapeach at Varesh at the moment, which feeds into what is going on for 2026 in order to bring us to the production numbers that we have and the efficient numbers that we have, which will put out in February next year.
Speaker #2: That then translates into readiness for Choker Rakita. So, there's also that dynamic. Earlier, Wayne asked about what's happening with the equipment and whether we are still going to move it?
Speaker #2: There's that dynamic coming in as well, which was not the when we did the pre-feasibility study. So our confidence is obviously increasing as we do more engineering and you'll see that reflected in the pre-feas.
Speaker #2: Keep in mind any significant changes we typically do ahead of pre-feas, and really all we're doing is working through the sort of dynamics of the costing and increasing confidence between the pre-feas and the feasibility study.
Speaker #2: So at this point, no scope changes.
Speaker #3: And Raj, I'll just address the intersecting question on capital returns. So in the third quarter, as you can appreciate, we were pretty busy wrapping up the acquisition of Adriatic.
Speaker #3: For much of the quarter, we also ran into some upcoming disclosures that occurred at the end of the quarter as it related to Loma Larga's technical report.
Speaker #3: And as you can appreciate, also in the fourth quarter, we have a significant amount of news flow upcoming with the Choker Rakita technical report.
Speaker #3: The initial resources for the three deposits that will carry us through. So I would say that from a fourth quarter expectation around buybacks, and the like, I think it would continue to be minimal.
Speaker #3: However, it remains considerable implementing our toolbox here and we definitely consider a healthy return of capital to shareholders important. And so while you may not see a significant amount for the remainder of this year, I think you can expect to see that we revisit that next year.
Speaker #5: Okay, that's great. Thank you very much, Patrick, from me.
Speaker #3: Thanks, Raj.
Speaker #2: Thank
Speaker #1: Thank you. You. And our next question comes from Jeremy Hoy of Canaccord. Your line is now open.
Speaker #1: open. Hi, thanks for taking
Speaker #6: My questions. Just a quick one for me. It's on Loma Larga. A lot of momentum building in Eastern Europe there, and clearly Loma Larga becomes, I think, less critical overall to the story.
Speaker #6: But has there been any dialogue since the revocation of the environmental permit with the government or stakeholders, or are you essentially at an impasse there?
Speaker #2: We've what we've said is that we are engaging with stakeholders and there'll be a necessity to engage with the government. You'll understand that at the time there was a number of things that were going on and the revocation came about at a time which was most disappointing given what happened with the EIA issue.
Speaker #2: And the clear demonstration from the environmental ministry that our standards were robust and in line with what was required for this project. And would stand the test globally in any place that we operate.
Speaker #2: So, somewhat disappointing that that happened, and there were a lot of things that were going on at the time. It will be necessary for us to consider what our options are.
Speaker #2: But basically, we're assessing all of our available options to preserve the value and maintain optionality for our shareholders. That includes evaluating legal avenues.
Speaker #2: And I think more than that at this point, I'm not really able to discuss.
Speaker #6: Yeah, that's fair. Thank you very much. I appreciate you taking the
Speaker #6: question. Thank
Speaker #3: you, Jeremy. Thank
Speaker #1: You. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn it back to Jennifer Cameron for closing.
Speaker #1: Well, thanks everyone for joining us.
Speaker #7: And we look forward to speaking over the coming months and sharing some of our upcoming news flow with you all. If you have any further questions, please feel free to reach out.
Speaker #7: And thank you.