Q3 2025 Betterware de Mexico SAPI de CV Earnings Call

Speaker #3: Good afternoon . Thank you for joining us . And welcome to s third Quarter 2020 earnings Conference call . Before we begin , the company would like to remind participants that this call may contain forward looking statements which are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations .

[Company Representative]: Good afternoon. Thank you for joining us and welcome to BEFRA's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Before we begin, the company would like to remind participants that this call may contain forward-looking statements, which are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations. Please consider these statements alongside the cautionary language and safe harbor statement in today's earnings release, as well as the risk factors outlined in BEFRA's SEC filings. BEFRA undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. A reconciliation of and the other information regarding non-GAAP financial measures discussed on the call can also be found in the earnings release, as well as the investor section of the company's website. Present on today's call are BEFRA's President and Chief Executive Officer, Andres Campos Chevallier, and Chief Financial Officer, Rodrigo Musalem.

Speaker #3: Please consider these statements alongside the cautionary language and safe harbor statement in today's earnings release, as well as the risk factors outlined in Belfry's SEC filings.

Speaker #3: Belfry undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. A reconciliation of and the other information regarding non-GAAP financial measures discussed on the call can also be found in the earnings release.

Speaker #3: As well as the investor section of the company's website. Present on today's call are Betterware's President and Chief Executive Officer, Andres Campos, and Chief Financial Officer, Rodrigo Munoz.

Speaker #3: I would now like to turn the call over to President and CEO Andrés Campos.

[Company Representative]: I will now like to turn the call over to BEFRA's President and CEO, Andres Campos Chevallier.

Speaker #4: Thank you . Operator , and good afternoon , everyone . I am pleased to share our results for the third quarter of 2025 .

Andres Campos Chevallier: Thank you, Operator, and good afternoon, everyone. I am pleased to share our results for the third quarter of 2025, a quarter that once again demonstrates the strength, resilience, and agility of our business model. Before we begin our review, I would like to note that we are conducting today's webcast with a slide presentation to help better convey the relevant information that we want to share with you in our quarterly results conferences. Turning to slide four, let me begin by sharing some overall highlights for the quarter. Despite a softer consumer environment in Mexico and the U.S., we delivered another quarter of growth, solid profitability, and strong cash generation. Our operations continue to be executed with discipline, focus, and passion, while driving efficiency and reinforcing the foundations of our long-term strategy.

Speaker #4: A quarter that once again demonstrates the strength, resilience, and agility of our business model. Before we begin our review, I would like to note that we are conducting today's webcast with a slide presentation to help better convey the relevant information that we want to share with you in our quarterly results conferences.

Speaker #4: Turning to slide four, let me begin by sharing some overall highlights for the quarter. Despite the softer consumer environment in Mexico and the U.S., we delivered another quarter of growth.

Speaker #4: Solid profitability and strong cash generation. Our operations continue to be executed with disciplined focus and passion while driving efficiency and reinforcing the foundations of our long-term strategy.

Speaker #4: During the quarter , revenue grew 1.4% year over year , and EBITDA grew 22% , with the margin expanding 362 basis points to 21.4% .

Andres Campos Chevallier: During the quarter, revenue grew 1.4% year over year, and EBITDA grew 22%, with the margin expanding 362 basis points to 21.4% EBITDA. Our free cash flow conversion remains strong at 77% of EBITDA, reflecting our continued financial discipline and healthy balance sheet. These results were driven by strong execution across the group. Betterware Mexico maintained solid profitability, Jafra Mexico continued to lead growth, Jafra US delivered sequential improvement, and our startup operations in Ecuador and Guatemala exceeded expectations. It is important to highlight that we have continued to decrease inventories, freeing up space for future innovation, and our net leverage ratio decreased sequentially from 1.97 to 1.8 times. All of this confirms that our strategy is on the right track. We have built a strong and diverse business group, one that is not only positioned to capture long-term opportunities but also resilient in the face of short-term challenges.

Speaker #4: EBITDA. Our free cash flow conversion remains strong at 77% of EBITDA, reflecting our continued financial discipline and healthy balance sheet. These results were driven by strong execution across the group.

Speaker #4: Better, where Mexico maintained solid profitability. Diaphragm Mexico continued to lead growth. Jafra US delivered sequential improvement, and our startup operations in Ecuador and Guatemala exceeded expectations.

Speaker #4: It is important to highlight that we have continued to decrease inventories, freeing up space for future innovation. Additionally, our net leverage ratio decreased sequentially from 1.97 to 1.80 times.

Speaker #4: All of these confirms that our strategy is on the right track . We have built a strong and diverse business group , one that is not only positioned to capture long term opportunities , but also resilient in the face of short term challenges .

Speaker #4: To talk about our results and progress on slide five, I am very excited to share with you what we have defined as our five strategic pillars, which will guide our growth and transformation over the next few years.

Andres Campos Chevallier: To talk about our results and progress on slide five, I am very excited to share with you what we have defined as BEFRA's five strategic pillars, which will guide our growth and transformation over the next years. As you know, in the past four years, we have transformed the BEFRA Group from being one single company in one country to becoming a diverse group of companies with multiple brands and categories and a diverse geographic footprint. Accordingly, these five pillars represent the next stage of BEFRA's evolution, through which we will capitalize on opportunities that lay ahead of us. For today's call and future ones, we will discuss our results in this context to explain the progress that we are making across these pillars. On slide six, the first pillar is strengthening our leadership in the Mexican market.

Speaker #4: As you know, in the past four years, we have transformed the group from being one single company in one country to becoming a diverse group of companies with multiple brands and categories.

Speaker #4: And that diverse geographic footprint. Accordingly, these five pillars represent the next stage of evolution through which we will capitalize on opportunities that lie ahead of us.

Speaker #4: For today's call and future ones, we will discuss our results in this context to explain the progress that we are making across these pillars.

Speaker #4: On slide six, the first pillar is strengthening our leadership in the Mexican market. It is important to remember that both Betterware and Jafra hold around 4% market share in each of the home solutions and beauty markets, which means there is still substantial room for growth.

Andres Campos Chevallier: It is important to remember that both Betterware and Jafra hold around 4% market share in each of the Home Solutions and beauty markets, which means there is still substantial room for growth. Turning to slide seven, third quarter 2025 sales at Betterware decreased 5.3% year over year, as Mexico's softer demand has had a more significant impact on discretionary items in particular. That said, we remain focused on fine-tuning our internal strategies to mitigate these effects and to get Betterware back on track to consistent growth. Our focus this quarter was on optimizing pricing, reducing inventories, which fell 17% versus last year's quarter, and refreshing our catalog's merchandising techniques. These actions are strengthening the commercial fundamentals and set the stage for future volume recovery. On slide eight, we've showcased some of Betterware's most relevant innovations during the third quarter 2025.

Speaker #4: Turning to slide seven, third quarter 2025 sales at Betterware decreased 5.3% year-over-year, as Mexico's softer demand has had a more significant impact on discretionary items in particular.

Speaker #4: That said , we remain focused on fine tuning our internal strategies to mitigate these effects and to get better where back on track to consistent growth .

Speaker #4: Our focus this quarter was on optimizing pricing, reducing inventories, which fell 17% versus last year's quarter, and refreshing our catalogs and merchandising techniques.

Speaker #4: These actions are strengthening the commercial fundamentals and set the stage for future volume recovery. On slide eight, we showcased some of the better words.

Speaker #4: Most relevant innovations during the third quarter of 2025. Innovation remains an important driver for our success, and this slide provides just a few examples.

Andres Campos Chevallier: Innovation remains an important driver for our success, and this slide provides just a few examples. This quarter, we continue to advance product innovation across all of our major categories, ensuring our portfolio remains at the forefront of evolving customer needs, including stellar new innovations such as the limited edition Barbie Katrina we launched during the quarter with Mattel, which sold out in just two weeks. On slide nine, behind Betterware's revenue and profitability strength, we'd also like to point out three actions implemented during the quarter that showcase our continuous advancements. First, we reconfigured our catalog, decreasing our total SKU count to 370, including decreasing the products in our promotional portfolio. These moves seek to make our SKUs more productive and our products more visible, with direct improvements in revenue, margins, and inventory management.

Speaker #4: This quarter, we continue to advance product innovation across all of our major categories, ensuring our portfolio remains at the forefront of evolving customer needs, including stellar new innovations such as the limited edition barbecue Trina.

Speaker #4: We launched during the quarter with Mattel , which sold out in just two weeks . On slide nine , behind Better revenue and profitability , strength with also like to point out three actions implemented during the quarter that showcased our continuous advancements .

Speaker #4: First, we reconfigured our catalog, decreasing our total SKU count to 370, including a reduction in the products in our promotional portfolio. This move seeks to make our SKUs more productive and our products more visible, with direct improvements in revenue, margins, and inventory management.

Speaker #4: Second , better Work has launched a new VIP program for its associates which segments them , according to their performance level . The new program , Better motivates associates by rewarding top sellers with more benefits .

Andres Campos Chevallier: Second, Betterware has launched a new VIP program for its associates, which segments them according to their performance level. The new program better motivates associates by rewarding top sellers with more benefits. Finally, we launched an idea section in our proprietary Betterware Plus app, which all associates and distributors can now use to send us product ideas or reviews. We expect this new feature to have a significant impact on ongoing innovation at Betterware de México. Turning to slide 10, the Jafra Mexico business continues to be one of our key growth engines. Revenue increased 8% year over year, and EBITDA grew 31%, reaching a margin of 24%. Although we expect a run rate margin of 20% to 21%, this reflects our ability to strengthen profitability while driving growth. Our consultant base expanded 2% quarter over quarter, while the average order increased by roughly 10%.

Speaker #4: Finally, we launched an idea section in our proprietary Betterware Plus app, which all associates and distributors can now use to send us product ideas or reviews.

Speaker #4: We expect these new features to have a significant impact on ongoing innovation at Betterware. Turning to slide ten, the Jafra Mexico business continues to be one of our key growth engines.

Speaker #4: Revenue increased 8% year over year , and EBITDA grew 31% , reaching a margin of 24% . Although we expect the run rate margin of 20 to 21% , this reflects our ability to strengthen profitability while driving growth .

Speaker #4: Our consultant base expanded 2% quarter over quarter, while the average order increased by roughly 10%. We continued to show how our business model proves highly effective when applied to new brands and product categories.

Andres Campos Chevallier: We continue to show how our business model proves highly effective when applied to new brands and product categories. Almost four years since its acquisition, Jafra is set to close the year with almost 50% higher revenues than the year before we had acquired it, which is particularly relevant when compared to its almost 15 previous years without growth. Turning to slide 11, we highlight several of Jafra's most relevant product innovations for the third quarter. We launched our first collaboration with Disney, the Evil Queen’s Flash Collection, which delivered outstanding consumer engagement and strong sales performance. We also continue to expand our successful new Biolab dermocosmetic brand with the introduction of our first dark spot removing product line, which performed exceptionally well from the outset.

Speaker #4: Almost four years since its acquisition, Jafra is set to close the year with almost 50% higher revenues than the year before. We had acquired it, which is particularly relevant when compared to its almost 15 previous years without growth.

Speaker #4: Turning to slide 11 , we highlight several of Jafra most relevant product innovations for the third quarter , we launched our first collaboration with Disney , The Evil Queen splash Collection , which delivered outstanding consumer engagement and strong sales performance .

Speaker #4: We also continued to expand our successful new bio lab, dermocosmetic brand with the introduction of our first dark spot removing product line, which performed exceptionally well from the outset.

Speaker #4: In addition, we completed the revamp of our Royal Body line, featuring updated packaging and a refreshing brand image, resulting in more than a 50% increase in volume compared to prior versions.

Andres Campos Chevallier: In addition, we completed the revamp of our Royal Body line, featuring updated packaging and a refreshing brand image, resulting in a more than 50% increase in volume compared to prior versions. Importantly, by year-end, we expect to have revamped approximately 80% of Jafra's portfolio under the new brand image, with full completion anticipated by the first half of 2026. Finally, on slide 12, we would like to highlight two relevant operational advancements for Jafra, mainly the success of the new printed purple guide for Mexico, which explains Jafra's incentive program in a much simpler way than it used to. Jafra also adopted Betterware de México's outbound messaging system to associates, which we use to remind them of specific actions they can take to win more customers and orders according to their individual context. We continue to make other advancements to Jafra's model to make it more modern and effective.

Speaker #4: Importantly, by year-end, we expect to have revamped approximately 80% of the Jafra portfolio under the new brand image, with full completion anticipated by the first half of 2026.

Speaker #4: Finally , on slide 12 , we would like to highlight two relevant operational advancements for Jafra . Mainly , the success of the new printed Purple Guide for Mexico , which explains Jeffries incentive program in a much simpler way than it used to .

Speaker #4: Jafra also adopted a better, worse, outbound messaging system to associates, which we used to remind them of specific actions they can take to win more customers and orders.

Speaker #4: According to their individual context, we continue to make other advancements to the Jafra model to make it more modern and effective. Please see slide 13.

Andres Campos Chevallier: Please see slide 13. Our second pillar is regional expansion, which we are executing by having Betterware de México's successful business model replicated across the U.S. and Latin American markets. On the following slide, starting with the U.S., Jafra US achieved a quarter of stability versus last year. After a couple of quarters of decline, we see the trajectory of Jafra US continues to improve each quarter. While the third quarter usually has a seasonal decline in revenue versus the second quarter, this year it remains stable, demonstrating the strength of the trajectory. It is important to highlight that in September, the business recorded its strongest month in the last three years, including 30% year-over-year growth in revenue. With regard to profitability, Jafra US's losses reflect extraordinary legal expenses related to cases and issues that had begun before we acquired the company.

Speaker #4: Our second pillar is regional expansion, which we are executing by having a successful business model replicated across the U.S. and Latin American markets.

Speaker #4: On the following slide , starting with the US . Jafra achieved a quarter of stability versus last year . After a couple of quarters of decline , we see the trajectory of jafra us continues to improve each quarter , while the third quarter usually has a seasonal decline in revenue versus second quarter .

Speaker #4: This year , it remained stable , demonstrating the strength of the trajectory . It is important to highlight that in September , the business recorded its strongest month in the last three years , including 30% year over year growth in revenue .

Speaker #4: With regard to profitability, Jafra U.S.'s losses reflect extraordinary legal expenses related to cases and issues that had begun before we acquired the company.

Speaker #4: Without those expenses , the company operates at a break even point and is getting close to generating profits . On slide 15 . As we've mentioned before , we have implemented three main measures to .

Andres Campos Chevallier: Without those expenses, the company operates at a break-even point and is getting close to generating profits. On slide 15, as we've mentioned before, we have implemented three main measures to achieve Jafra US's positive trajectory. First, the adoption of Shopify Plus platform, which is now complete and an important source of growth for all associates and distributors. In addition, we implemented a profound change in Jafra US's incentive program, now called the Purple Guide, which we launched in May and which has started to kick in with good results. Finally, on slide 16, we redesigned the product catalog to make it more attractive and yield higher sales conversion rates. On the next slide, you will note that since its launch in May, Betterware Ecuador has exceeded expectations, reaching almost 6,000 active associates, 380 distributors, and revenue growing around 20% month over month.

Speaker #4: Achieve Jafra US's positive trajectory. First, the adoption of the Shopify Plus platform, which is now complete, is an important source of growth for all associates and distributors.

Speaker #4: In addition, we implemented a profound change in Jafra US incentive program, now called the Purple Guide, which we launched in May and which has started to kick in with good results.

Speaker #4: Finally , on slide 16 , we redesigned the product catalog to make it more attractive and yield higher sales . Conversion rates . On the next slide , you will note that since its launch in May , better were Ecuador has exceeded expectations , reaching almost 6000 active associates , 380 distributors and revenue growing around 20% month over month in better Guatemala , sales grew 32% year over year following the appointment of a new management team that has been in place since September of last year .

Andres Campos Chevallier: In Betterware Guatemala, sales grew 32% year over year following the appointment of a new management team that has been in place since September of last year. Encouraged by the promising results in both countries, we are moving forward with plans to launch Betterware in Colombia in the beginning of 2026, with the aim of strengthening our presence across Latin America. We thought it'd be important to clarify the opportunity that Latin America represents for Betterware de México, S.A.P.I. de C.V. On slide 18, you'll note that the Andean and Central American direct selling markets are an estimated $4.5 billion in total size, which is almost as big as Mexico's market. We are confident that our scalable business model and proven playbook will enable us to replicate our success in these markets, representing another significant level of growth for the group in the years to come.

Speaker #4: Encouraged by the promising results in both countries, we are moving forward with plans to launch Better in Colombia at the beginning of 2026, with the aim of strengthening our presence across Latin America.

Speaker #4: We thought it would be important to clarify the opportunity that Latin America represents for Bafra. On slide 18, you'll note that the Andean and Central American direct selling markets are an estimated $4.5 billion in total size, which is almost as big as Mexico's market.

Speaker #4: We are confident that our scalable business model and proven playbook will enable us to replicate our success in these markets, representing another significant level of growth for the group in the years to come.

Speaker #4: Now I'd like to jump into our third pillar: new brands and categories. While we will not showcase any specific progress in this quarter, I would like to mention that this pillar will be a major avenue for growth going forward.

Andres Campos Chevallier: Now, I'd like to jump into our third pillar, new brands and categories. While we will not showcase any specific progress in this quarter, I would like to mention that this pillar will be a major avenue for growth going forward. We are actively looking for potential acquisitions of new brands that can strengthen BEFRA's position in our markets and enable us to expand into new product categories. With the huge success of Jafra's acquisition, which has demonstrated our ability to positively impact acquired brands, we are ready for possible new ones in the future. Within this same pillar, we are also assessing new categories that could fall under the Betterware and Jafra brand umbrellas. This includes analyzing opportunities that would strategically broaden our brand portfolio in the coming quarters.

Speaker #4: We are actively looking for potential acquisitions of new brands that can strengthen our position in our markets and enable us to expand into new product categories. With the huge success of Jaffa's acquisition, which has demonstrated our ability to positively impact acquired brands, we are ready for possible new ones in the future.

Speaker #4: Within this same pillar, we are also assessing new categories that could fall under the veteran Jafra brand: umbrellas. This includes analyzing opportunities that would strategically broaden our brand portfolio in the coming quarters.

Speaker #4: Moving to slide 20 , our fourth pillar , activating digital person to person selling . I am very pleased to announce that last month we formed a new digital transformation team , which will help us adapt more quickly to emerging consumer trends and digital capabilities .

Andres Campos Chevallier: Moving to slide 20, our fourth pillar, activating digital person-to-person selling, I am very pleased to announce that last month we formed a new digital transformation team, which will help us adapt more quickly to emerging consumer trends and digital capabilities. Led by LATAM Digital Commerce Expert, Maria Fernanda Gil, who reports directly to me, the digital transformation team will be crucial in adopting new technologies such as generative AI and agentic AI to further boost our successful person-to-person model. More to come on this front in the quarters ahead. Lastly, on the following slide, our fifth and final pillar, which is one that underpins everything we do: financial strength, discipline, and control. This has been a hallmark of our company throughout the years. It enables us to grow without compromising company health and has also made us resilient in challenging times.

Speaker #4: LED by Latam Digital commerce expert Maria Fernanda Gil , who reports directly to me . The digital transformation team will be crucial in adopting new technologies such as generative AI and AI to further boost our successful person to person model .

Speaker #4: More to come on this front in the quarters ahead . Lastly , on the following slide , our fifth and final pillar , which is one that underpins everything we do .

Speaker #4: Financial strength , discipline and control . This has been a hallmark of our company throughout the years . It enables us to grow without compromising company health , and has also made us resilient in challenging times .

Speaker #4: We continue to operate with tight cost management, efficient working capital, and healthy leverage ratios. Financial discipline isn't just part of our strategy; it's part of our DNA.

Andres Campos Chevallier: We continue to operate with tight cost management, efficient working capital, and healthy leverage ratios. Financial discipline isn't just part of our strategy; it's part of our DNA. With that strategic overview, I'll now turn the call over to Rodrigo, our CFO, who will walk you through the consolidated financial results for the quarter.

Speaker #4: With that strategic overview, I'll now turn the call over to Rodrigo, our CFO, who will walk you through the consolidated financial results for the quarter.

Speaker #5: Thank you . Andres , and good afternoon , everyone . For starters , all figures shall be referring to our in Mexican pesos and all comparisons are year over year unless otherwise stated .

Rodrigo Musalem: Thank you, Andres, and good afternoon, everyone. For starters, all figures I'll be referring to are in Mexican pesos, and all comparisons are year over year unless otherwise stated. Additional details are available in our earnings release published earlier in our investor relation website. Starting on slide 22, in terms of net revenue, we saw growth of 1.4% year over year, which means that despite softer consumer trends, our business model and strategies remain strong and efficient. For EBITDA, we had a great Q3, which saw an increase of over 22% versus last year's Q3. While year-to-date EBITDA is still below last year's level due to a difficult first quarter in 2025, we are recovering strongly and expect to achieve 1% to 5% growth over the year.

Speaker #5: Additional details are available in our earnings release published earlier in our Investor Relations website . Starting on slide 22 , in terms of net revenue , we saw growth of 1.4% year over year , which means that despite softer consumer trends , our business model and strategies remain strong and efficient .

Speaker #5: For EBITDA . We had a great Q3 , which saw an increase of over 22% versus last year's Q3 . While year to date evidence is still below last year's level due to a difficult first quarter in 25 .

Speaker #5: We are recovering strongly and expect to achieve 1% to 5% growth over the year. On the next slide, it is also important to highlight that while maintaining a strong focus on profitability and continuous improvement across both Betterware and Jafra, we have continued to invest in our international expansion strategy thanks to the solid performance and financial strength of our home market.

Rodrigo Musalem: On the next slide, it is also important to highlight that while maintaining a strong focus on profitability and continuous improvement across both Betterware and Jafra, we have continued to invest in our international expansion strategy. Thanks to the solid performance and financial strength of our home market in Mexico, we are in a good position to fund these investments. As Andres mentioned earlier, our international strategy represents a significant growth opportunity for the future and a key pillar in Betterware de México, S.A.P.I. de C.V.'s long-term vision. Turning to slide 24, our adjusted net income increased 71% versus third quarter 2024. This was mainly due to higher operating profits, but there was also a positive impact from lower net interest expenses resulting from lower interest rates in Mexico, as well as lower provisional income tax for the quarter.

Speaker #5: In Mexico, we are in a good position to fund these investments. As Andres mentioned earlier, our international strategy represents a significant growth opportunity for the future and is a key pillar in our long-term vision.

Speaker #5: Turning to slide 24, our adjusted net income increased 71% versus the third quarter of 2020. This was mainly due to higher operating profit, but there was also a positive impact from lower net interest expenses resulting from lower interest rates in Mexico, as well as lower provisional income tax for the quarter.

Speaker #5: Our income was negatively impacted by foreign exchange effects due to the fact that foreign exchange this year is recognized in our gross margin under new hedge accounting guidelines.

Rodrigo Musalem: Our income was negatively impacted by FX effects due to the fact that FX this year is recognized in our gross margin under new hedge accounting guidelines. While last year we had positive financial effects from our hedge positions, which used to be recognized under the EBITDA. On slide 25, you'll note that our free cash flow increased 32.6% year over year and is expected to reach an annual rate of 60% free cash flow to EBITDA by the end of the year. We also remain consistent in our commitment to generating value for our shareholders through dividends, and the board proposed a $200 million peso dividend that was approved at our general stockholders' meeting held on October 21, 2024. This represents our 23rd consecutive quarter of paying dividends since we became public in 2020.

Speaker #5: While last year we had positive financial effects from our hedge positions , which used to be recognized under the EBITDA . On slide 25 , you'll note that our free cash flow increased 32.6% year over year and is expected to reach an annual rate of 60% .

Speaker #5: Free cash flow to EBITDA by the end of the year. We also remain consistent in our commitment to generating value for our shareholders through dividends, and the board proposed a $200 million dividend that was approved at our general stockholders' meeting held on October 21st.

Speaker #5: This represents our 23rd consecutive quarter of paying dividends since we became public in 2020. I'd like to highlight that the 2021 and 2022 dividends were positively impacted by the pandemic.

Rodrigo Musalem: I'd like to highlight that the 2021 and 2022 dividends were positively impacted by the pandemic demand surge in relation to Betterware, and 2023 was negatively impacted following the post-pandemic decline as well as the 2022 Jafra acquisition. As you can see, in the last two years, the 2024 and 2025 dividends have resumed representing between 30% to 40% of EBITDA. On the following slide, you'll see our total debt and our net debt to EBITDA ratio demonstrate our ability to manage debt for growth initiatives. It is important to highlight that Betterware de México, S.A.P.I. de C.V. (BEFRA) normally operates without debt, as was the case before we invested in the new campus and in the Jafra acquisition. Since our debt peaked in the beginning of 2022, we had reduced total debt from $6,700 million pesos to $5,200 million pesos at the end of third quarter 2025.

Speaker #5: Demand surge in relation to weather, and 2023 was negatively impacted following the post-pandemic decline, as well as the 2022 Jafra acquisition.

Speaker #5: As you can see in the last two years, the 2024 and 2025 dividends have resumed, representing between 30% to 40% of EBITDA.

Speaker #5: On the following slide, you will see our total debt, and our net debt to EBITDA ratio demonstrates our ability to manage debt for growth initiatives.

Speaker #5: It is important to highlight that we normally operate without debt, as was the case before we invested in the new campus and in the Jafra acquisition.

Speaker #5: Since our debt peaked at the beginning of 2022, we have reduced total debt from $6.7 billion to $5.2 billion at the end of the third quarter of 2025.

Speaker #5: During the same period, the net debt to EBITDA ratio fell from 3.1 times to 1.8 times. We expect to continue to drive down debt as quarters progress, including an estimate to close the year at around 1.6 times.

Rodrigo Musalem: During the same period, the net debt to EBITDA ratio fell from 3.1 times to 1.8 times. We expect to continue to drive down debt as quarters progress, including an estimate to close the year at around 1.6 times. I will now pass the word back to Andres for final comments. Thank you, Rodrigo. Before we open the line for questions, let me conclude with a few remarks on slide 27. While the external environment, particularly in Mexico and the U.S., remains challenging, our results this quarter confirm the resilience and viability of BEFRA's business model. We are growing profitably, generating cash, expanding our footprint in the U.S. and Latin America, and strengthening our brands. We are executing our strategy with discipline and focus, and the momentum we're building gives us great confidence as we prepare to close 2025 and enter 2026.

Speaker #5: I will now pass the word back to Andrés for final comments.

Speaker #4: Thank you Rodrigo . Before we open the line for questions , let me conclude with a few remarks on slide 27 . While the external environment , particularly in Mexico and the US , remains challenging , our results this quarter confirmed the resilience and viability of business model .

Speaker #4: We are growing profitably , generating cash , funding our footprint in the US and Latin America , and strengthening our brands . We are executing our strategy with discipline and focus .

Speaker #4: And the momentum we're building gives us great confidence as we prepare to close 2025 and enter 2026 . Today stands as a stronger , more diverse and well positioned group with great brands , committed teams and a clear roadmap for long term growth .

Rodrigo Musalem: BEFRA today stands as a stronger, more diverse, and well-positioned group with great brands, committed teams, and a clear roadmap for long-term growth. I will now pass the call to our operator regarding any questions you may have. Thank you.

Speaker #4: I will now pass the call to our operator regarding any questions you may have. Thank you.

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Speaker #3: One moment while we poll for questions. Our first question is from Eric. Better with research. Please proceed.

Speaker #6: Good evening . We'll talk about a few different things . How are you ? I'm good . How are you ?

Eric Beter: Good evening. I want to talk about a few differences.

Andres Campos Chevallier: I'm good. How are you?

Eric Beter: I'm good. How are you?

Speaker #4: Good . Thank you .

Andres Campos Chevallier: Good, thank you.

Speaker #6: Cool. I want to talk about inventory. So, you reduced the inventory by almost, I believe, about 8% year over year.

Eric Beter: I want to talk about inventory. You've reduced the inventory by almost, I believe, about 8% year over year, and the revenue went up, which is a great combination, even despite the fact that tariffs probably raised some of the cost of goods sold there. How should we be thinking about the potential inventory targets going forward, and will that provide extra free cash flow here to help drive expansion and pay down more debt?

Speaker #6: Just. And the revenue went up, which is a great combination. Even despite the fact that tariffs probably raised some of the cost of goods sold there.

Speaker #6: How should we be thinking about the potential inventory targets going forward? And will that provide extra free cash flow here to help drive?

Speaker #6: Expansion and pay down more debt? Yeah.

Speaker #4: Thank you Eric . So I will I will pass that question to Rodrigo . So that he can give you our projection for year end on inventory , how it looks like .

Andres Campos Chevallier: Thank you, Eric. I will pass that question to Rodrigo so that he can give you our projection for year-end on inventory, how it looks like.

Speaker #5: Hello . Nice to nice to hear from you . Remember that in Q3 last last year we were up in inventories in in betterware .

Rodrigo Musalem: Hello, Eric. Nice to hear from you. Remember that in Q3 last year, we were upping inventories in Betterware Mexico, and we are aiming through the year to get it down. We do believe that expectation to close 2025 will be around $2.1 million to $2.2 million pesos in inventory from the $2.5 million pesos that we initiated the year. That would be the aim and the future for inventories in the company.

Speaker #5: And we are aiming through the year to get it down. We do believe that the expectation to close 2025 will be around $2 million and $200 to $2,000,200 in inventory, from the $2,000,500 that we initiated the year.

Speaker #5: So that would be the aim and the future for inventories in the company.

Speaker #4: And just to clarify the exact number, it's $2.1 billion, where we aim to finish.

Andres Campos Chevallier: To clarify the exact number, it's $2,100 million where we aim to finish.

Speaker #6: Okay . Well that's that's that would be impressive . When you look at the Betterware catalogue , I guess there's two things here .

Eric Beter: Okay. That's impressive. When you look at the Betterware catalog, I guess there's two things here. One is, how are you taking advantage of the stronger peso in terms of ordering to be able to maximize margins? Obviously, you've already done part of that. What should we be thinking about as a more, are what we see now, kind of the focus on returns, lower inventories, kind of what we're going to see going forward? How should we be thinking about the ability to drive, potentially, top-line growth from the Betterware catalog?

Speaker #6: One is, how are you taking advantage of the stronger peso in terms of ordering and being able to maximize margins? Obviously, you've already done part of that.

Speaker #6: And you know what you would be thinking about is a more, or what we see now, kind of the focus on returns, lower inventories, kind of what we're going to see going forward.

Speaker #6: How should we be thinking about the ability to drive potentially top-line growth from the Betterware catalogue?

Speaker #4: Thank you Eric . That is a very good question . You know , as you say , we are benefiting now from a strong peso at around 1850 to $19 per dollar .

Andres Campos Chevallier: Thank you, Eric. That is a very good question. You know, as you say, we are benefiting now from a strong peso at around $18.50 to $19.00 pesos per dollar. At the same time, also, the freight costs have come down again, near the lowest levels that we have seen. This is coming together to benefit Betterware Mexico. We are obviously, our first line of attack is to pass these benefits on to the consumer to drive more demand, obviously, all while protecting the profitability that we aim for, but it obviously allows us to be a bit more aggressive with consumer prices. At these moments where consumption is sluggish in Mexico, to have this benefit is very good so we can be more aggressive in prices.

Speaker #4: And then at the same time also the freight costs have come down again near the the lowest levels that we have seen . So this is , you know , coming together .

Speaker #4: To benefit better where Mexico and we are, obviously our first line of attack is to pass these benefits on to the consumer, to drive more demand.

Speaker #4: Obviously , all while protecting the profitability that we aim for . But it obviously allows us to be a bit more aggressive with with consumer prices at this moment where consumption is sluggish in Mexico , to have this benefit is very good .

Speaker #4: So we can be more, more aggressive in prices.

Speaker #6: And you mentioned , I guess , I want to throw one more one more question about Japhra . So , you know , you've talked about moving the business into new areas where the consumers continually buying them skincare .

Eric Beter: You mentioned, I guess this is one, I will throw one more question about Jafra. You know, you've talked about moving the business into new areas where the consumer is continually buying them, skincare. You mentioned dark spot remover, you know, and that takes time. It also has taken you, you know, some of the changes you've done there. Where kind of are we in that kind of movement there in terms of that? In terms of expansion, is it preference to do it as direct ownership, joint venture? How should we be thinking about the new expansion like Colombia and the other potential countries in South America as how you want to structure that? Thank you.

Speaker #6: You mentioned our dark spot remover . You know , and that takes time . And it also has taken , you know , some of the changes you've done there where kind of are we in that kind of movement ?

Speaker #6: There, in terms of that? And in terms of expansion? Or is the preference to do it as direct ownership or a joint venture?

Speaker #6: How should we be thinking about, you know, the new expansion like Colombia and the other potential countries in South America? As to how you want to structure that?

Speaker #6: Thank you .

Speaker #4: Yeah . Thank you Eric . So in your first question from the Japhra side , still fragrances for Japhra Mexico fragrances is still the main category .

Andres Campos Chevallier: Yeah. Thank you, Eric. Your first question, from the Jafra side, still, fragrances for Jafra Mexico, fragrances is still the main category. In the last year and the years to come, we expect the other categories to start growing at a faster pace than fragrances and start building on that mix of the revenue. Now, on the second question, about expansion, we are doing the expansion directly ourselves, 100% owned by us. We are hiring professional management on-site that has experience in the country or the region, that lives in the region. We're bringing them on board to manage the expansion to those regions. By the moment and for the foreseeable future, 100% owned by us.

Speaker #4: But in the last year and the years to come , the other categories will we we expect the other categories to start growing at a faster , faster pace than fragrances and start building on that , on that mix of the of the revenue , a now , on the second question about expansion , we are doing the expansion directly ourselves , 100% owned by us , and we are hiring management professional management , on site that has experience in the country or the region that lives in the region .

Speaker #4: And we're bringing them on board to manage the expansion to those regions. But for the moment, and for the foreseeable future, it is 100% owned by us.

Speaker #6: Great. Thank you. Good luck for the holidays.

Eric Beter: Great. Thank you. Good luck for the holidays.

Speaker #4: Thank you . Eric .

Andres Campos Chevallier: Thank you, Eric.

Speaker #3: As a reminder, this is Star One on your telephone keypad. If you would like to ask a question, our next question is from Cristina Fernandez with Telsey Advisory Group.

Operator: As a reminder, just star one on your telephone keypad if you would like to ask a question. Our next question is from Cristina Fernandez with Chelsea Advisory Group. Please proceed.

Speaker #3: Please proceed .

Speaker #7: Hi. Good afternoon. A couple of questions. I wanted to see if you can talk more about what you're seeing with the Mexican consumer in your categories.

Cristina Fernandez: Hi. Good afternoon. A couple of questions. I wanted to see if you can talk more about what you're seeing with the Mexican consumer and your categories. It's been a pretty volatile year with a soft first quarter, but then the second quarter, it seemed like the consumer was spending more, and now it backtracked. I guess, what do you think is driving that, and how much are outperformance and you're seeing in your businesses versus the overall market?

Speaker #7: It's been a pretty volatile year with a soft first quarter. Then, in the second quarter, it seemed like the consumer was spending more, and now we've seen a backtrack.

Speaker #7: So, I guess what do you think is driving that? And how much outperformance are you seeing in your businesses versus the overall market?

Speaker #4: Yeah . Thank you . Cristina Andres here . So yeah , I mean , the Mexican consumer has been a pretty sluggish , I would say we we we are seeing consumption growth lessen and we're seeing consumption trends to come down .

Andres Campos Chevallier: Yeah. Thank you, Cristina. Andres here. I mean, the Mexican consumer has been pretty sluggish, I would say. We're seeing consumption growth lessen, and we're seeing consumption trends come down. As you said exactly now, we saw a pretty rough first quarter, then it picked up again in the second. By the end of August, beginning of September, it came down again. Very volatile, no? What we're seeing with the Mexican consumer, and it's obviously not easy to operate in these conditions. We believe that this may be temporary, no? As the Mexican economy as a whole, we think stands strong. Obviously, these are very uncertain moments, and we try to operate in these moments with, I would say, two things in mind. One is maintain strong profitability and cash flow.

Speaker #4: As you said . Exactly . Now we saw a pretty rough first quarter . Then it picked up again in the second . And then by the end of August , beginning of September , it came down again .

Speaker #4: So very volatile . What we're seeing with the Mexican consumer . And it's obviously not easy to operate in these conditions . And we we believe that this may be temporary .

Speaker #4: No . As the Mexican economy as a whole , we think stands strong , but obviously these are very uncertain moments . And and we try to operate in these moments with , I would say two things in mind .

Speaker #4: One is maintained strong profitability and cash flow . You know , when we attack difficult times , we , we , we , we try to make sure that our cash flow and profitability is very well positioned and that we remain as a healthy company .

Andres Campos Chevallier: You know, when we attack difficult times, we try to make sure that our cash flow and profitability is very well positioned and that we remain as a healthy company. The second one, obviously, is keep attacking growth and keep trying to gain market share even in these tough times. This will be how we will maintain our mindsets in the coming months and quarters.

Speaker #4: And the second one , obviously is keep attacking growth and keep trying to gain market share , even in these tough times . So so this this will be how we will maintain our mindset in the in the coming months .

Speaker #4: And quarters .

Speaker #7: And then another question I had was on the the profitability , the , the , you pretty strong EBITDA margin . We saw this quarter .

Cristina Fernandez: Another question I had was on the profitability, the pretty strong EBITDA margin we saw this quarter. You mentioned a couple of factors like FX and lower transportation costs that might be sustainable and continue to see those benefits going forward. I guess, how should we think about this level? Is this a level you want to stay or do you want to reinvest back in the business to drive growth? Were there any one-time benefits that skew this quarter higher?

Speaker #7: You mentioned a couple of factors like FX and lower transportation costs that you know might be sustainable and could continue to see those benefits going forward.

Speaker #7: But I guess, how should we think about this level? Is, I mean, is this a level you want to stay at, or do you want to reinvest back in the business to drive growth?

Speaker #7: And were there any one-time benefits that this quarter were higher?

Speaker #4: Yeah . So no there's no relevant like one time benefits . Nevertheless we obviously saw a pretty strong gross margin , especially in Jafra Mexico .

Andres Campos Chevallier: Yeah, so no, there's no relevant, like, one-time benefits. Nevertheless, we obviously saw a pretty strong gross margin, especially in Jafra Mexico. We saw a pretty, like, a 76+% gross margin in Jafra Mexico, which is not the normal margin we have in Jafra Mexico. The normal gross margin we shoot for is like 74.5% to 75%. We did have a little bit of a high margin in Jafra Mexico, which we do not expect to sustain, but reinvest that to continue driving Jafra's growth. More or less, that's where I would say our mindset would be at.

Speaker #4: We saw a pretty high gross margin of 76% in Mexico, which is not the normal margin we have in Mexico. The normal gross margin we shoot for is around 74.5% to 75%.

Speaker #4: We did have a little bit of a high margin in Mexico, which we do not expect to sustain. But we will reinvest that to continue driving.

Speaker #4: Growth. So, more or less, that's where I would say our mindset would be at.

Speaker #7: And then the the last question I had was on the on the technology transfer transfer transformation that you call out , if you look across the businesses , where do you see the most opportunity to , you know , embed greater technology or make it more efficient ?

Cristina Fernandez: The last question I had was on the technology transformation that you call out. If you look across the businesses, where do you see the most opportunity to embed greater technology or make it more efficient as you look out over the next couple of years?

Speaker #7: As you look out over the next couple of years?

Speaker #4: Yeah , it's a very good question . As you know , we have been investing in in technology and technology advancement for quite a while .

Andres Campos Chevallier: Yeah. It's a very good question. As you know, we have been investing in technology and in technology advancement for quite a while. It's one of our pillars of growth. Today, we are at a, I would say, a pretty good spot with our own proprietary app and the new Shopify Plus platform that we launched in all of our businesses. Technology continues going. We see going forward, with the whole surge of generative AI, agentic AI, there will be a lot of transformation that we can use, no? We want to be at the forefront of these technological advancements. This department, one of the things that's going to be working at is our evolution within AI.

Speaker #4: It's one of our pillars of growth . And today we're we are at a , I would say , a pretty good spot with our own proprietary app .

Speaker #4: And the new Shopify Plus platform that we launched in all of our businesses. And all of that. But technology continues going.

Speaker #4: So , you know , we see going forward , you know , with the whole surge of generative AI , agentic AI , there will be a lot of transformation that we can use , and we want to be , you know , at the forefront of this technology .

Speaker #4: Technological advancements . So , you know , this department , one of the things that's going to be working at is our evolution within AI .

Speaker #4: We're also looking at the fact that person-to-person selling is evolving towards an increasingly digital landscape, where you see platforms such as social selling starting to explode and live shopping also beginning to gain significant traction.

Andres Campos Chevallier: We're also looking at the fact that person-to-person selling is also evolving towards a more and more digital landscape where you see platforms such as social selling starting to explode, live shopping starting to explode in the U.S., with TikTok Shop or with others. All these spaces, we need to move very fast and be at the forefront of all these technological advancements. Those are some of the ones I would mention. It's become so relevant and so important that that's why we decided to make a specific department of this and bring a specialist to help us drive everything we do with the commercial technologies in order to evolve our channel.

Speaker #4: In the US with TikTok shop or with other . So you know , all these spaces we need to move very fast and be at the forefront of all these technological advancements .

Speaker #4: So those are some of the ones I would mention . And it's become so relevant and so important that that's why we decided to , you know , make specific department of this and bring a specialist to help us , you know , drive everything we do with the commercial technologies in order to evolve our , our channel .

Speaker #7: Thank you .

Cristina Fernandez: Thank you.

Speaker #4: Thank you . Christina .

Andres Campos Chevallier: Thank you, Cristina.

Speaker #3: With no further questions, I would like to turn the conference back over to Andrés for closing remarks.

Operator: With no further questions, I would like to turn the conference back over to Andres for closing remarks.

Speaker #4: Thank you . Operator . And thank you , everyone . Once again for your trust and continued support . We look forward to .

Rodrigo Musalem: Thank you, Operator, and thank you, everyone, once again for your trust and continued support. We look forward to updating you on the next quarter. Thank you.

Speaker #4: Updating you on the next quarter. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Thank you. This does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. And thank you for your participation.

Operator: Thank you. This does conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time, and thank you for your participation.

Cristina Fernandez: Thank you, Cristina.

Q3 2025 Betterware de Mexico SAPI de CV Earnings Call

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Q3 2025 Betterware de Mexico SAPI de CV Earnings Call

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Thursday, October 23rd, 2025 at 9:30 PM

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