Q3 2025 ADTRAN Holdings Inc Earnings Call

Speaker #2: Good morning . My name is Carly , and I will be your conference operator today . At this time , I would like to welcome everyone to the ADTRAN Holdings, Inc. third quarter 2020 Financial results conference call .

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Speaker #2: If you would like to withdraw your question , press star one again . Thank you . I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Peter Schuman , Vice President , Investor Relations .

Speaker #2: Please go ahead .

Speaker #3: Thank you . Carly , welcome and thank you for joining us today . And welcome to all those joining by webcast during the conference call , Adtran representatives will make forward looking statements that reflect management's best judgment based on factors currently known .

Speaker #3: However , these statements involve risks and uncertainties , including those detailed in our earnings release , our annual Report on Form 10-K , as amended , and other filings with the SEC .

Speaker #3: These risks and uncertainties cause could cause actual results to differ materially from those in our forward looking statements , which may be made during the call .

Speaker #3: We undertake no obligation to update any statements to reflect events that occur after this call . During today's call , we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures .

Speaker #3: Reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures and certain additional information are included in our investor presentation and our earnings release . We have not provided reconciliations of our fourth quarter 2025 outlook with regard to non-GAAP operating margin , because we cannot predict and quantify without unreasonable effort all of the adjustments that may occur during the period .

Speaker #3: The Investor relations investor presentation has been updated and is available for download on the Investor Relations website . Turning to the agenda . Thomas Stanton ADTRAN Holdings, Inc. , CEO and chairman of the board , will provide key highlights of the third quarter of 2025 .

Speaker #3: Timothy Santo . Our Senior Vice President and CFO , will review the quarterly financial performance in detail and provide our fourth quarter 2025 outlook .

Speaker #3: And then we will take any questions you may have . I'd like to now turn the call over to Thomas Stanton .

Speaker #4: Thank you Peter . Good morning everyone . AirTran delivered solid third quarter results with revenue near the upper end of our guidance and higher operating margins .

Speaker #4: All three business categories achieved double digit year over year growth , reflecting disciplined execution , new customer wins , and healthy demand for fiber networking solutions .

Speaker #4: Operating profit exceeded the midpoint of our outlook , underscoring the solid execution and our focus on leveraging financial performance . As a driver of longer term value creation .

Speaker #4: The quarter was led by strong results in optical networking and subscriber solutions , while access and aggregation reflected anticipated buying patterns of two large European customers .

Speaker #4: We expect those customers to come back online either early or early , late in the fourth quarter , or early next year . We remain confident on the overall market for the remainder of this year .

Speaker #4: However . During the quarter , we closed on a 201 million financing transaction that lowered our borrowing costs and increased financial flexibility . Important steps that strengthen our capital structure and position us to execute confidently on longer term strategic objectives .

Speaker #4: Turning to the quarterly results . Adtran reported 279.4 million , reflecting strong year over year growth across all three revenue categories . This marks the fifth consecutive quarter of sequential growth in fourth consecutive quarter of year over year improvement .

Speaker #4: Proof points that our portfolio strategy and market positioning are driving sustainable momentum . This consistency underscores the health of our business . Continuing improvement in market conditions and market conditions , and the progress we are making .

Speaker #4: We are making in strengthening our foundation for the longer term growth from our customers perspective . Engagement across our portfolio continues to strengthen as we broaden our technology reach .

Speaker #4: We're making it easier to choose adtran not just because of what we build , but because of how seamlessly our solutions work together .

Speaker #4: Our integrated portfolio means fewer handoffs , faster time to value , and one accountable across optical access . Subscriber and software . Our technology is the enabler , but the outcome is what matters .

Speaker #4: Simpler operations , greater efficiency and a trusted relationship that continues to open new opportunities for collaboration . Our optical networking solutions grew 47% year over year , and 15% sequentially , driven by strong momentum in Europe , including deployments with a new large service provider .

Speaker #4: We added 15 new optical customers in the quarter , reflecting continued share gains and the expanding reach of our portfolio . The man remains robust and geographically diverse , supporting a wide range array of applications .

Speaker #4: These include national networks throughout Europe , secure connectivity for major enterprises and government clients worldwide with high capacity interconnects for large scale content providers , access and aggregation revenue grew 12% year over year , supported by ongoing fiber access investments among regional operators in the US and Europe .

Speaker #4: While revenues from our small and medium service providers in the U.S. were substantially up, this increase was offset by the seasonal buying pattern of two major European customers.

Speaker #4: We added 14 new customers for our fiber access and Ethernet aggregation platforms , demonstrating continued traction across both new and existing markets in subscriber solutions .

Speaker #4: Revenue grew 12% year over year and 21% sequentially , driven by demand for both residential and wholesale applications . We added 18 new customers during the quarter as service providers continued expanding fiber reach and Wi-Fi capabilities .

Speaker #4: This quarter , we introduced Mosaic one clarity , a new application built on our carrier grade Agentic AI platform that enables predictive maintenance guided issue resolution and proactive network optimization .

Speaker #4: Early results from customer pilots are promising , demonstrating a reduction of up to 75% in network related trouble . Tickets . This is a strong validation of our AI driven approach to network intelligence , and a clear example of how innovation within mosaic one is helping operators improve performance and efficiency .

Speaker #4: Structural shifts across our industry , from core to edge computing and the advent of intelligent networks , are reshaping connectivity worldwide . AI isnt just transforming data centers , it's redefining the entire network .

Speaker #4: The rise of distributed computing and edge processing is driving new requirements for bandwidth , latency and reliability , fueling demand for high capacity optical solutions .

Speaker #4: Next generation access platforms and intelligent and intelligent software to automate operations . Adtran is uniquely positioned at the intersection with our upgrading differentiated portfolio and our mosaic one operating platform .

Speaker #4: As investment accelerates in AI and cloud computing , upgrades will follow . Across the network through Metro transport access and aggregation and ultimately the subscriber edge .

Speaker #4: Our optical networking access and aggregation subscriber solutions and Mosaic one software are built for that cascade , delivering higher throughput , lower latency and smarter , more efficient operations at scale .

Speaker #4: In summary, Q3 was another quarter of solid execution and strategic progress, marking a clear step forward in both performance and positioning.

Speaker #4: We delivered top line momentum and profitability improvements while enhancing our ability to invest and operate with greater financial flexibility . All of which reflects the disciplined way our teams are executing across the business .

Speaker #4: More importantly , we are setting the foundation for sustained value creation . The actions we've taken to enhance efficiency , strengthen our balance sheet and sharpen our focus are enabling us to operate from a position of greater agility and confidence .

Speaker #4: As Tim will discuss in more detail during the Financial Review . Our scale efficiencies are creating meaningful operating leverage across the business . With disciplined cost control and strengthened balance sheet .

Speaker #4: We see line of sight to continued margin expansion and earnings growth as we move through 2026 , all while maintaining the same financial discipline that has guided our progress .

Speaker #4: With that , I will turn the call over to Tim to review the financial results in more detail . Tim . Thank you .

Speaker #4: Tom , and thank you all for joining us this morning . We delivered solid results in the third quarter , reflecting strong discipline , consistent execution across the business .

Speaker #4: As Tom shared , we achieved broad based revenue growth , higher . margins and improved operational efficiency as benefits from increased scale began to take hold .

Speaker #4: Demand was strong .

Speaker #5: In optical networking and subscriber solutions , supported by healthy customer activity and continued broadband investment globally . Over the past quarter , we've reinforced the operational fundamentals of the business and enhanced our financial controls and processes to support growth .

Speaker #5: These actions strengthen reliability and transparency of our published results and position us to deploy capital effectively aligning operational execution with long term value creation .

Speaker #5: As Tom shared , the third quarter also marked a significant step in strengthening our capital structure . The $201 million transaction that we completed has lowered borrowing costs , improved liquidity and substantially reduced risk .

Speaker #5: While it also unlocks significant availability under our revolving credit facility . It does not change the strategic priorities we've outlined to monetize our non-core assets .

Speaker #5: As many of you know , we recently engaged new partners to represent the sale of our Huntsville campus . Together , we have relaunched a targeted marketing process and are actively speaking with interested parties .

Speaker #5: We will remain disciplined on terms and timing and will provide updates as appropriate . Simply put , we are moving forward . The process with focus and intent , maintaining a healthy balance sheet remains a top priority .

Speaker #5: We've made tangible progress this year and our balance sheet today is more resilient , flexible , and better aligned to support long term growth .

Speaker #5: Turning to the financial results for the third quarter of 2025 , revenue was $279.4 million , up 23% year over year and 5% sequentially .

Speaker #5: Finishing at the high end of our guidance , growth was broad based , led by optical networking , which increased 47% year over year .

Speaker #5: Geographically , non-U.S. revenue accounted for 57% of total revenue , while the US represented 43% . One customer contributed more than 10% of total revenue during the third quarter .

Speaker #5: non-GAAP gross margin improved to 42.1% , up both sequentially and year over year , driven by scale efficiencies , product mix and component cost reductions .

Speaker #5: We remain focused on sustaining gross margin in the 42 to 43% range over the long term . non-GAAP operating profit rose to $15.1 million , or 5.4% of revenue , exceeding the midpoint of our outlook on a sequential basis , operating profit increased by 7.1 million , or 89% , compared to 14.6 million from approximately zero in the prior year .

Speaker #5: Operating income during this same period has increased to 5.4% in Q2 2025 , Q3 from 3% in Q2 2025 and 0.2% in Q3 2024 .

Speaker #5: 2025 non-GAAP tax expense in Q3 2025 was $3.5 million , or an effective rate of 38.3% . non-GAAP EPs was $0.05 compared to break even in Q2 2025 , and compared to a loss of $0.07 one year ago .

Speaker #5: Currency had a minimal impact on our earnings this quarter , while volatility persists across both revenue and expenses . Our natural hedging framework continues to mitigate risk .

Speaker #5: Building on the stronger forecasting , reporting and treasury processes established this year , we are now expanding our FX strategies to further protect our balance sheet and working capital .

Speaker #5: We continued to strengthen our financial position with working capital , improving by $13.2 million . Accounts receivable increased by $13.9 million , resulting from increased sales with DSO remaining relatively flat at 59 days .

Speaker #5: Inventory declined by $16.3 million sequentially , reducing days inventory outstanding by 11 days to 124 . Accounts payable totaled $188.9 million , with days payable outstanding remaining flat at 70 days .

Speaker #5: We remain focused on maintaining a healthy balance sheet with our objective of achieving a net positive cash position . Operating cash flow was $12.2 million , and year to date we've generated $38 million in free cash flow .

Speaker #5: We ended Q3 2025 with $101.2 million in cash . Cash equivalents and restricted cash . And importantly , a stronger liquidity position . In summary , Q3 reflects disciplined execution , profitability improvement and continued financial progress .

Speaker #5: We entered the fourth quarter with confidence despite typical seasonal factors , fewer shipping days , holiday related customer acceptances and budget timing . While those dynamics remain , we expect solid demand and our execution to offset the usual headwinds we expect revenue between 275 and 285 million and anticipate a non-GAAP operating margin of 3.5 to 7.5% .

Speaker #5: We expect opex to remain relatively flat compared to Q3 . We look forward to a strong finish to the year and remain focused on driving sustainable growth and maximizing long term stockholder value .

Speaker #5: I now turn the call back to Tom for some concluding remarks.

Speaker #4: Thanks , Tim . I think we'll open up to some questions first . Carly , at this point , we've opened open Up the question queue for any questions people may have .

Speaker #2: Thank you . We will now begin the Q&A session . At this time , if you would like to ask a question , please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad .

Speaker #2: We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster . Your first question comes from Michael Genovese with Rosenblatt Securities .

Speaker #6: Great. Thanks very much. I guess my first question is looking at the access and aggregation and the comments on the European customers there, as well as the information put out by.

Speaker #6: You know , AD Tran networks in Europe talking about , I think , a little bit of a timing change . So my question is , is there was there like , a push out of some things ?

Speaker #6: I mean , I know , I know the first half of the year tends to be seasonally stronger than the second half . And that access and aggregation European business .

Speaker #6: But versus prior expectations was was there some kind of push out in the timing of some of those shipments ?

Speaker #4: There has been there's been , let's say I don't push out alludes to the fact that there may be some risk in that .

Speaker #4: I don't think there's any risk , but there has been some changing in some of the timing . We have two big customers that tend to be front end loaded .

Speaker #4: And in fact , you know , two of our biggest customers in the year . And then the one of the customers has a calendar that is offset from , you know , typical , you know , their financial calendar is different .

Speaker #4: So that means budget cycles are different . But . Yeah , there's always some puts and takes . So the answer is yes .

Speaker #6: Okay . And you know I'm sorry I just in terms of what you said , I think you gave us an update on the real estate .

Speaker #6: But I was a little bit just couldn't follow exactly what you said about . So could you could you talk about that again ?

Speaker #4: Sure . Basically what Tim mentioned was we have re we have put the facility both buildings back onto the market . We are actually receiving .

Speaker #4: We've got multiple offers coming in . Right . Tim , let me let you cover that . Go ahead .

Speaker #5: We've been in this past quarter; you know where we left off. We were under an exclusivity agreement, and we pulled the buildings down while we were working through that.

Speaker #5: As we disclosed last quarter , they're back on the market . And very actively being marketed . You know , both the parts of the campus we have interest from multiple parties and are having regular conversations .

Speaker #6: Okay . And then finally , I'm just going to , you know , kind of a bigger picture question , you know , which is , you know , traditionally telecom has not been a , you know , a super fast growth market , right ?

Speaker #6: It's like telecom in general is a single digit growth market . So , you know , if Adtran is going to grow higher than that , you know , on the top line and be more of like a high single or digit growth company , is it because there's fundamental acceleration in what you're in , what you're doing in fiber and access , or you're gaining share ?

Speaker #6: Or is it is there some repositioning to higher growth markets like , you know , more data center exposure , like what what like just how do we think about 2026 and sort of what the drivers of the business are from a high level ?

Speaker #4: Yeah . So I kind of I kind of agree with everything you're saying . I mean , you typically see the telecom market in the single digits kind of mid to high single digits in the kind of varies year to year .

Speaker #4: Now, data center speeds and data center capacity are starting to affect the overall market. Although I don't think that's really reflected in the numbers today.

Speaker #4: But the premise is there's a significant market share disruption that's happening in Europe right now , and we are the number one winner in that in that market share grab that's going on in Europe .

Speaker #4: I mean , the largest player in Europe is being displaced .

Speaker #6: Oh , you know , last follow up on that . Is there anything incrementally in Germany happening where I believe that Germany had already decided to kind of cap Huawei , but I'm not sure if they ripped and replaced yet .

Speaker #6: Could , could , could that become a something incremental actual rip and replacing of Huawei ?

Speaker #4: Yes it could . I think over time it would rip and replace is going to have to happen everywhere . Just because you have to maintain the network and you can't be getting new drops of code all the time .

Speaker #4: There are . You know , there's been a lot of talk over the last few weeks about trying to accelerate that process . In Germany .

Speaker #4: I don't think there's been any material rip and replace at this point in time . I think what they've been trying to do is effectively cap utilization on an ongoing basis .

Speaker #6: Okay . Thanks . I appreciate it .

Speaker #4: Okay .

Speaker #2: Your next question comes from Brian Coombs with Needham and Company .

Speaker #7: Great . Thank you . I want to ask about optical . It looks like the best quarter you've had there in a couple of years .

Speaker #7: Tom . Any color you can give us in terms of trends , in terms of product mix , geo mix within the optical domain , would be helpful because , optical is obviously gaining a lot of momentum with regard to cloud and AI spent really starting to ramp up .

Speaker #7: Thank you .

Speaker #4: Yeah , I would agree with you on on what the outcome of the quarter was . And I will tell you that the momentum there is is strong .

Speaker #4: It's both in the US and in , in Europe . The quarter was definitely helped , though , by us picking up a larger tier one in Europe .

Speaker #4: And we started initial shipments into that carrier . But we've kind of seen a deathor a kind of market . Most notably in Europe though .

Speaker #4: So we're expecting a good year next year as well .

Speaker #7: Great . And you know , as Mike mentioned about the Huawei displacement opportunities , I mean , how would you how would you broadly characterize those today with regards to deals you've won as well as prospective deals you hope to like win in the next 12 months .

Speaker #8: Relative to .

Speaker #7: Relative to revenue opportunity . Thank you .

Speaker #4: Yeah . So it is a it has been a significant positive influence even going through the across the downturn with what we've won .

Speaker #4: But if you look at the number of carriers that have actually converted , like , you know , there's some discussion here on Germany , they've been slow and you're that momentum continues to build quarter over quarter .

Speaker #4: It definitely is impacting our numbers now . And that impact will grow over the next 2 to 3 years . So it's it's definitely a positive mover .

Speaker #4: And you know let me add a little bit I think there are different dynamics in the excess versus optical space . I think there's a good chance that optical will probably will see an increase in momentum earlier on in the optical space .

Speaker #4: Access has been a constant just move , but there's millions of customers that are involved versus and because of that widespread infrastructure versus kind of optical moves on a project by project basis .

Speaker #7: Got it . Great . And maybe one on on margins . If I can sneak it in around , you know , you guys happy with where you're at here at at 42 non-GAAP and you think this is where you're , you got it pegged or is there further upside .

Speaker #7: We can we can .

Speaker #4: No longer term goal is 43 . And I think we're within line of sight to that . I think I think we'll be bumping up against that next year .

Speaker #7: Yeah . Great . Thank you very much .

Speaker #4: Okay .

Speaker #2: Your next question comes from Christian Schwab with Craig-hallum .

Speaker #9: Great . Some other players in the space have started mentioning that they've got their first bead orders . Would you anticipate in improved bead spending environment , positively impact you in calendar 26 ?

Speaker #4: Yes . Yeah . That's a yes . That's a that's an easy bar . But yes I mean it's starting to you know it's been dead now for a while .

Speaker #4: But it's definitely , you know there's a whole lot more activity going on there . So the answer is yes .

Speaker #9: OU, is that something that you guys would, you know, anticipate seeing orders in the first half of calendar 2026? Or is that yet to be determined?

Speaker #4: I think we'll see orders in the first half of 26 .

Speaker #9: Great . And then you guys talked about operating margin expansion in , in in 2026 . I know you've outlined the goal of getting to double digits eventually , but you know , what should we think about you know , the potential for operating margin expansion in calendar 26 .

Speaker #4: We expect to have expansion in 26 . I mean , I think the key , the key to us . So gross margins have been fairly consistent .

Speaker #4: And have been , I would say over time , upwardly moving the whole key to us is the operating expense line that that , of course , is impacted by FX .

Speaker #4: But the operating expense line on a kind of constant currency basis , where if you look at year over year , we're at high 90s , you know , which equates to kind of where we are right now .

Speaker #4: So we've been holding it firm . I think the real question is how long can you hold it firm ? Our belief at this point in time that is that we have enough R&D firepower and the right product set to not have to substantially increase the R&D spend .

Speaker #4: We will be we'll continue to , you know , we have sales expense that is variable depending on the revenue to some extent .

Speaker #4: But structurally wise we don't see big movements right now required to get us to that kind of 300 ish north to 300 level , which kind of gets us to our target .

Speaker #4: So I would expect expansion through next year . But Tim , let me let you answer any other comments on that .

Speaker #5: I think as we continue the expansion , you'll see 300 in the second half of next year , late or early 2027 . And I think on a constant currency basis , you get to the double digits once you get somewhere around 315 in revenue .

Speaker #9: Great. No other questions. Thank you.

Speaker #2: Your next question comes from George Notter with Wolfe Research .

Speaker #10: Hey , thanks very much , guys . I guess I'm just curious about , you know , the minority interest in the business with with the old Adva shareholders .

Speaker #10: Any new perspectives there ? Would you did you redeem any shares in the quarter ? Any new thoughts in terms of how you deal with that obligation going forward would be great .

Speaker #10: Thanks .

Speaker #4: Well , we're happy if they redeem at this point , you know , so we would like to see some . I think there was one redemption in the quarter .

Speaker #5: It's in the subsequent events . It happened early , early this quarter . But yeah , we continue to see nominal activity . And you know , expect there to be some level of run rate .

Speaker #4: Yeah . But yeah , nothing earth shattering . And like I said , it's well that stock is trading up right now . If you take a look at over the last six months .

Speaker #4: But redemptions are a good thing at this point .

Speaker #10: Got it . Would you would you look to do anything proactive ? I mean , obviously you did the financing this quarter . Would you look to get more proactive with those shareholders .

Speaker #10: Is that something that's in the cards at this point , or does it hinge on selling the buildings in Huntsville ? Like how do you how do you think about that ?

Speaker #4: Well , without a doubt , selling that building does give us , you know , substantially more headroom . My my sense is we'd be getting more actively on that base , you know , towards the tail end of next year .

Speaker #4: We're probably still a few quarters away from that . Having said that , redemptions are a good thing .

Speaker #11: Great .

Speaker #10: Okay .

Speaker #11: Thanks .

Speaker #4: Okay .

Speaker #2: Your next question comes from Tim . Tim Salvaggio with Northland Capital Markets .

Speaker #12: Hey pardon me . Good morning . Non-core asset question to start with . And that centers on the old ABA kind of sink and timing business I assume you capture that in optical though .

Speaker #12: I really don't know . That's one question . And I wonder if you can give us a sense of the dynamics around the business kind of overall size , growth rate , profitability , any anything you can share along those lines ?

Speaker #12: I have a follow up . Thanks .

Speaker #4: Yeah , it is in the axis and AG business . We really don't break that out separately . But it's in the axis and business access and ag access and AG category .

Speaker #4: It There has there has been some that's been over some period of time , but nothing that's I would say the gross margin in that business , we've been able to keep .

Speaker #4: is growing . As you know , we're doing a kind of a relook at that business and segmenting that business to be able to that is a different business .

Speaker #4: It is a different selling rhythm , different cell type of , I'll say , people , but it's really different contexts within the different customer bases .

Speaker #4: So we are in the midst right now of readjusting how that business operates.

Speaker #12: Okay . Thanks . And can you hear me ?

Speaker #4: Yeah , yeah . Go ahead .

Speaker #12: Okay . Sorry . The second question was going to be on any impact from memory prices , especially on the subscriber side of the business and what you're seeing there .

Speaker #4: Let me think about the let me think about the proper answer that the gross margin in that business , we've been able to keep at a fairly constant level over the last few quarters .

Speaker #4: And think we'll be able to do that on a going forward basis . That a lot of that is just churn on different , you know , that that business churns .

Speaker #4: We have new generations of subscriber product . We have more new generation subscriber product than any other product in our portfolio .

Speaker #12: Got it . Maybe , maybe one more for me . You mentioned starting to ramp with one of the tier one European wins .

Speaker #12: I guess on the optical side . And I think that went included access as well . So do you expect that to start ramping soon and .

Speaker #12: Anything else to call call out in terms of upcoming tier one ramps here in the next quarter or two ?

Speaker #4: Yeah , I think that one will it will take longer . The optical thing was incredibly quick . And , you know , there was a lot of work that went in front of that in order to make that happen so quick .

Speaker #4: I think the access portion will take longer , but I would expect to see movement of that next year . And in general , everything is is moving forward , not at the same at the pace that we would like , but everything in Europe is moving forward .

Speaker #4: We haven't lost any pieces . The other ones that we've talked about in the past with very specific , there is some rip and replace going on in different parts of Europe .

Speaker #4: That is moving forward . So I think all of that will just be kind of a positive , you tailwind next year .

Speaker #12: Thanks .

Speaker #4: Okay .

Speaker #2: There are no further questions at this time . I'll now turn the call back over to Thomas Stanton for closing remarks .

Speaker #4: Okay . Thanks very much for joining us . On our conference call . And I really would like to extend my appreciation to our teams around the world .

Speaker #4: Thank you for everything that you do . I also want to thank our stockholders and our customers and partners for the confidence and the collaboration that you've shown us over the last year .

Speaker #4: So thanks very much , everybody .

Speaker #2: Ladies and gentlemen , that concludes today's call . Thank you all for joining . You may now disconnect .