Q3 2025 Stellar Bancorp Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #2: Good morning. My name is Audra, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Stellar Bank.
Audra: Good morning. My name is Audra, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Stellar Bancorp third quarter earnings call. Today's conference is being recorded. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press the star key, followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, press star one again. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Courtney Theriot, Chief Accounting Officer. Please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Third quarter earnings call . Today's conference is being recorded . All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise . After the speakers remarks , there will be a question and answer session .
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Speaker #2: If you would like to withdraw your question , press star one again . At this time , I would like to turn the conference over to Courtney Terrio , Chief Accounting Officer .
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Speaker #3: Thank you . Operator and thank you to all who have joined our call today . Good morning . Our team would like to welcome you to our earnings call for the third quarter of 2025 .
Courtney Theriot: Thank you, operator, and thank you to all who have joined our call today. Good morning. Our team would like to welcome you to our earnings call for the third quarter of 2025. This morning's earnings call will be led by our CEO, Bob Franklin, and CFO, Paul Egge. Also in attendance today are Steve Rutkoff, Executive Chairman of the company, Ray Bottuli, President of the Company and CEO of the bank, and Joe West, Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Credit Officer of the bank. Before we begin, I need to remind everyone that some of the remarks made today constitute forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 as amended. We intend all such statements to be covered by the safe harbor provisions for forward-looking statements contained in the act.
Speaker #3: This morning's earnings call will be led by our CEO , Bob Franklin . And CFO Paul Hickey . Also in attendance today are Steve Retzlaff , executive chairman of the company .
Speaker #3: Ray Vitulli , president of the company and CEO of the bank . And Joe West , senior executive vice president and chief credit officer of the bank .
Speaker #3: Before we begin, I need to remind everyone that some of the remarks made today constitute forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, as amended.
Speaker #3: We intend all such statements to be covered by the safe harbor provisions for forward-looking statements contained in the Act. Also, note that if we give guidance about future results, that guidance is only a reflection of management's beliefs.
Courtney Theriot: Also note that if we give guidance about future results, that guidance is only a reflection of management's beliefs at the time the statement is made, and such beliefs are subject to change. We disclaim any obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statement except as may be required by law. Please see the last page of the text in this morning's earnings release, which is available on our website at ir.stellar.bank, for additional information about the risk factors associated with forward-looking statements. At the conclusion of our remarks, we will open the line and allow time for questions. I will now turn the call over to our CEO, Bob Franklin.
Speaker #3: At the time . The statement is made . And such beliefs are subject to change . We disclaim any obligation to publicly update any forward looking statement , except as may be required by law .
Speaker #3: Please see the last page of the text in this morning's earnings release , which is available on our website at . For additional information about the risk factors associated with for looking statements .
Speaker #3: At the conclusion of our remarks , we'll open the line and allow time for questions . I will now turn the call over to our CEO , Bob Franklin .
Speaker #4: Thank you . Courtney . Good morning and welcome to the Stellar Bancorp, Inc. third quarter earnings call . I'm pleased to report that we delivered solid results , including increasing our net interest income and our net interest margin .
Bob Franklin: Thank you, Courtney. Good morning and welcome to the Stellar Bancorp third quarter earnings call. I'm pleased to report that we delivered solid results, including increasing our net interest income and our net interest margin. Our balance sheet expansion was driven primarily by deposit growth, reflecting our bankers' emphasis on getting the full client relationship. Credit quality has found its way back into the headlines. While we experienced some charge-offs in the quarter, they were spread over several small credits, most of which were already identified and appropriately reserved. We feel comfortable at our present level of reserve based on our portfolio and the markets that we serve. We have little exposure to non-originated credits and only have three shared national credits, all with longstanding and additional business ties to the bank. Overall, credit trends remain favorable and our market's stable.
Speaker #4: Our balance sheet expansion was driven primarily by deposit growth , reflecting our bankers emphasis on getting the full client relationship , credit quality has found its way back into the headlines .
Speaker #4: While we experienced some charge offs in the quarter , they were spread over several small credits , most of which were already identified in appropriately reserved .
Speaker #4: We feel comfortable at our present level of reserves based on our portfolio and the markets that we serve. We have little exposure to non-originating credits and only have three shared national credits, all with long-standing and additional business ties to the bank.
Speaker #4: Overall credit trends remain favorable , and our markets stable . Paul will provide more detail on our expenses during the quarter , including some one time expenses and some increased advertising spend as we continue to strengthen our capital position .
Bob Franklin: Paul will provide more detail on our expenses during the quarter, including some one-time expenses and some increased advertising spend. As we continue to strengthen our capital position, we have repurchased shares and we have paid down $30 million of our subordinated debt just after quarter end. Our well-capitalized position gives us valuable flexibility, and we remain committed to deploying capital in ways to enhance our shareholder value. We are focused on growing our company. We believe that if we continue to be disciplined in building quality assets, protecting margins, and focusing on full balance relationships, we will drive long-term value for our shareholders. Now I'll turn the call over to Paul Egge, our CFO, for more content.
Speaker #4: We have repurchased shares and we have paid down $30 million of our subordinated debt just after quarter end . Our well-capitalized position gives us valuable flexibility and we remain committed to deploying capital in ways to enhance our shareholder value .
Speaker #4: We are focused on growing our company . We believe that if we continue to beat disciplined in building quality assets , protecting margins and focusing on full balance relationships , we will drive long term value for our shareholders .
Speaker #4: Now I'll turn the call over to Paul , our CFO , for for more content . Thanks , Bob , and good morning , everybody .
Paul Egge: Thanks, Bob, and good morning, everybody. We are pleased to report third quarter 2025 net income of $25.7 million or $0.50 per diluted share, as compared to net income of $26.4 million or $0.51 per share in the second quarter. These Q3 results represent an annualized ROAA of 0.97% and an annualized ROATCE of 11.45%. Key highlights of our third quarter performance were improvements in our net interest income and margin on incrementally larger interest-earning assets. Our balance sheet growth was driven by strong deposit growth, and we feel great about our liquidity, capital, and overall balance sheet positioning. During the third quarter, net interest income was $100.6 million, representing an increase from the $98.3 million booked in the second quarter, largely due to higher earning assets and net interest margin for the quarter.
Speaker #4: We are pleased to report third quarter 2025 net income of $25.7 million , or $0.50 per diluted share , as compared to net income of $26.4 million , or $0.51 per share , in the second quarter .
Speaker #4: These two three results represent an annualized ROA of 0.97% and an annualized ROA of 11.45% . Key highlights of our third quarter performance were improvements in our net interest income and margin on incrementally larger interest earning assets .
Speaker #4: Our balance sheet growth was driven by strong deposit growth, and we feel great about our liquidity, capital, and overall balance sheet positioning.
Speaker #4: So during the third quarter , net interest income was $100.6 million , representing an increase from the $98.3 million booked in the second quarter , largely due to higher earning assets and net interest margin for the quarter .
Speaker #4: This translated into the net interest margin of 4.2% , relative to 4.18% posted in the second quarter . Purchase accounting accretion in third quarter was $4.8 million , down from $5.3 million in the second quarter .
Paul Egge: This translated into the net interest margin of 4.2% relative to 4.18% posted in the second quarter. Purchase accounting accretion in the third quarter was $4.8 million, down from $5.3 million in the second quarter. If you were to exclude purchase accounting accretion, tax equivalent net interest income increased by slightly more to $95.9 million from $93.1 million in the prior quarter, and that change in net interest margin, excluding purchase accounting accretion, was also greater, going from 3.95% in the prior quarter to 4% in the third quarter. We're really proud to get NIM, excluding purchase accounting accretion, back to a 4% level, and we continue to feel good about our ability to defend and perhaps incrementally improve on our top-tier margin profile by focusing on staying true to our core relationship banking model.
Speaker #4: So if you were to exclude purchase accounting , accretion tax , equivalent , net interest income increased by slightly more to $95.9 million from $93.1 million in the prior quarter .
Speaker #4: And that change in net interest margin, excluding purchase accounting accretion, was also greater, going from 3.95% in the prior quarter to 3.45% in the third quarter.
Speaker #4: We're really proud to get Nim excluding purchased county and accretion , back to a 4% level , and we continue to feel good about our ability to defend and perhaps incrementally improve on our top tier margin profile by focusing on staying true to our core relationship banking model .
Speaker #4: Walking further down the income statement, we booked a provision for loan losses of $305,000 in the third quarter, which was driven primarily by an increase in our allowance for unfunded commitments and growth in that category.
Paul Egge: Walking further down the income statement, we booked a provision for loan losses of $305,000 in the third quarter, which was driven primarily by an increase in our allowance for unfunded commitments and growth in that category. While we did experience $3.3 million in net charge-offs in the third quarter relating to over 10 relationships, most of these were previously identified and already specifically reserved for, therefore not impacting our quarterly provisions. For a year-to-date perspective, our net charge-offs totaled $3.7 million, or approximately 7 basis points annualized. Our allowance for credit losses on loans ended the quarter at $78.9 million, or 1.1% of loans, which is down slightly from $83.2 million, or 1.14% of loans at the end of the second quarter. Moving on to non-interest income, we earned $5 million in the third quarter versus $5.8 million in the second quarter of 2025.
Speaker #4: While we did experience $3.3 million in net charge-offs in the third quarter relating to over ten relationships, most of these were previously identified and already specifically reserved for.
Speaker #4: Therefore not impacting our quarterly provisions for year to date perspective , our net charge offs totaled $3.7 million , or approximately seven basis points annualized .
Speaker #4: Our allowance for credit losses on loans ended the quarter at $78.9 million , or 1.1% of loans , which is down slightly from $83.2 million , or 1.14% of loans , at the end of the second quarter .
Speaker #4: Moving on to non-interest income, we earned $5 million in the third quarter versus $5.8 million in the second quarter of 2025. This third quarter decrease was mostly due to approximately $445,000 of write-downs.
Paul Egge: This third quarter decrease was mostly due to approximately $445,000 of write-downs on foreclosed assets and other lower other non-interest income during the quarter. Onto non-interest expense, our expense increased to $73.1 million from $70 million in the second quarter, primarily due to an increase in salaries and benefits, and to a lesser extent, increases in professional fees and advertising. Salary and benefits expense included severance expenses recorded relating to two upcoming branch closures in the fourth quarter, which totaled about a half million dollars, as well as elevated medical insurance expenses relative to prior quarters. We view our third quarter expenses as an outlier, and we expect fourth quarter expenses to be closer to our run rate for the first half of the year.
Speaker #4: On foreclosed assets and other lower non-interest income during the quarter. On to non-interest expense. Our expense increased to $73.1 million from $70 million in the second quarter.
Speaker #4: Primarily due to an increase in salaries and benefits, and to a lesser extent, increases in professional fees and advertising. Salary and benefits.
Speaker #4: Expense included severance expenses recorded relating to two upcoming branch closings , closures in the fourth quarter , which totaled about a half million dollars .
Speaker #4: As well as elevated medical insurance expenses relative to prior quarters. We view our third quarter expenses as an outlier, and we expect fourth quarter expenses to be closer to our run rate for the first half of the year.
Speaker #4: So all of this drove solid bottom line results of $25.7 million in net net income , which continues to fuel our track record of internal capital generation and our very strong capital position .
Paul Egge: All of this drove solid bottom line results of $25.7 million in net income, which continues to fuel our track record of internal capital generation and our very strong capital position. Total risk-based capital was 16.33% at the end of the third quarter, relative to 15.98% at the end of the second quarter. Year-over-year tangible book value per share increased 9.3% from $19.28 to $21.08 per share, and that is after the effect of dividends and meaningful share repurchases. I should note that our share repurchases in the third quarter were lighter than prior quarters, totaling just under $5 million, relative to a total of approximately $64 million in share repurchases year to date.
Speaker #4: Total risk based capital was 16.33% at the end of the third quarter , relative to 15.98% at the end of the second quarter .
Speaker #4: Year over year , tangible book value per share increased 9.3% from $19.28 to $21.08 per share , and that is after the effect of dividends and meaningful share repurchases .
Speaker #4: I should note that our share repurchases in the third quarter were lighter than in prior quarters, totaling just under $5 million, relative to a total of approximately $64 million in share repurchases.
Speaker #4: Year to date . In closing , we really like where we sit both financially and strategically , even more so since recent M&A disruption in Texas accentuates our key differentiation among the as among the only truly focused franchises with scale in a competitive landscape comprised of increasingly larger out-of-state competitors .
Paul Egge: In closing, we really like where we sit, both financially and strategically, even more so since recent M&A disruption in Texas accentuates our key differentiation as among the only truly focused franchises with scale in a competitive landscape comprised of increasingly larger out-of-state competitors. We have built a strong balance sheet that can support quality growth, and with growth, we are positioned to deliver positive operating leverage through adding scale to the Stellar Bank platform while maintaining the financial flexibility to be opportunistic. Thank you, and I will now turn the call back over to Bob.
Speaker #4: We've built a strong balance sheet that can support quality growth. With this growth, we're positioned to deliver positive operating leverage by adding scale to the Stellar Bank platform.
Speaker #4: While maintaining the financial flexibility to be opportunistic . Thank you . And I will now turn the call back over to Bob . Thank you Paul .
Bob Franklin: Thank you, Paul. Operator, we're ready for questions.
Speaker #4: And operator, we're ready for questions.
Speaker #2: Thank you . We will now begin the question and answer session . If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question , please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue .
Audra: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. If you have dialed in and would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue. We'll take our first question from David Feaster at Raymond James.
Speaker #2: We'll take our first question from David Feaster at Raymond James .
Speaker #5: Hey, good morning, everybody.
[Analyst 1]: Hey, good morning, everybody.
Speaker #6: Good morning .
Ray Bottuli: Morning.
Speaker #5: I just wanted to start on let's start on the growth side . You know , I know somewhat of the decline is strategic .
[Analyst 1]: I just wanted to start on the growth side. I know somewhat of the decline is strategic, and we've talked about that, given your focus on a balanced approach, but I just wanted to get a sense on, first off, what's driving the payoffs and paydowns? How much of that is competition versus just asset sales and those kinds of things? How do you think about the growth outlook as we look forward? Texas is a very competitive market on one hand, and that maybe could be a headwind, but at the same time, you talk about the disruption, and that creates a ton of opportunities just given the strength of your franchise and your relationships. Just wanted to kind of take in that all together. How do you think about growth and any insights you can provide on that?
Speaker #5: And we've talked about that given given your focus on a balanced approach . But I just wanted to get a sense on first off , you know , what's what's driving the payoffs in Paydowns .
Speaker #5: You know how much of that is is competition versus just , you know , asset sales and those kinds of things . And then just how do you think about the growth outlook as we look forward ?
Speaker #5: I mean , you know , Texas is a very competitive market . On one hand . And , you know , that's maybe that could be a headwind .
Speaker #5: But at the same time , you talk about the disruption and that creates a ton of opportunities just given the strength of your franchise and your relationships .
Speaker #5: Just wanted to kind of taking that all together . Like , how do you think about growth and just any insights you can provide on that ?
Speaker #6: Hey , sure , David . Yeah . So start maybe a little bit with what what what's what's impacting the growth . When we talk about the payoffs , like like you asked the color around that .
Ray Bottuli: Hey, sure, David. Yeah, I'll start maybe a little bit with what's impacting the growth as when we talk about the payoffs, like you asked, the color around that. Payoffs this last quarter were about $50 million more than the previous quarter. We've talked about a run rate of around $300 million of payoffs. They were $330 million in the last quarter. Year to date, about 44% of our payoffs are related to sale of collateral, sale of business. About 25% is kind of in that competitive area of refinance elsewhere. Those are the things that we take a look at around, one, and as Bob already mentioned, us remaining disciplined around full relationships. Some of that will go away. On that refinance elsewhere, we put our best foot forward to try to keep some of that, but that's some of what we're faced with.
Speaker #6: So , you know , payoffs this this last quarter were about 50 million more than the previous quarter . So , you know , we we've talked about a run rate of around 300 million of payoffs .
Speaker #6: There were 330 in the last quarter and year-to-date. About 44% of our payoffs are related to the sale of collateral and the sale of business.
Speaker #6: But 25% is kind of in that competitive area of of of refinance elsewhere . So those are the things that we're that we take a look at around , you know , one .
Speaker #6: And as , as Bob already mentioned , us remaining disciplined around full relationships . So some of that it will go away . But on that refinance elsewhere , if , you know , we put our best foot forward to try to keep some of that .
Speaker #6: But that's some of that's some of what we're what we're faced with . On the other component of that in the waterfall is , is , you know , we call it we've talked about it before , but what we call our carried , which is our advances versus our paydowns and schedule payments .
Ray Bottuli: On the other component of that in the waterfall, we've talked about it before, but what we call our carry, which is our advances versus our paydowns and scheduled payments. As Paul mentioned, we have a reserve related to unfunded that continues to grow, but we're still not seeing the lift from that. Compared to the previous quarter, that was almost another $50 million of increase in payments and paydowns exceeding the advances. That's an area where we think we will get a lift as we continue to originate loans. We're really pleased with the originations. Last third quarter, we originated almost $500 million of loans compared to $640 million the previous quarter.
Speaker #6: And as Paul mentioned, you know, we had a reserve related to unfunded that continues to grow. But we're still not seeing the lift from that.
Speaker #6: So compared to the previous quarter , that was almost another 50 million of increase in payments . And paydowns exceeding the advances . So that's an area where we think we will get a lift as we continue to to originate loans .
Speaker #6: We're really pleased with the originations. Last quarter, in Q3 2025, we originated almost $500 million of loans compared to $640 million the previous quarter.
Speaker #6: But the real the real thing that I think we want to make sure we communicate is just overall year to date our compared to last year , first three quarters , we're up 62% of loan originations .
Ray Bottuli: The real thing that I think we want to make sure we communicate is just overall year to date, compared to last year, first three quarters, we're up 62% of loan originations and in the mix that we like with a little bit more commercial and industrial loans in that mix. Things are headed in the right direction. We just have to continue to convert on our pipeline, and pipeline remains healthy. I think a little bit of the originations that were down compared to the previous quarter were really due to, in some cases, it's competitive, obviously, but also just some things that are going to get pushed into the fourth quarter. The pipeline remains healthy, and we're really pleased with where we stand there.
Speaker #6: And in the mix that we that we like with a little bit more CNI in that mix . So things are headed in the right direction .
Speaker #6: We just have to continue to , to convert our pipeline and pipeline remains healthy . I think the little bit of the originations that were down compared to the previous quarter were really due to , in some cases , it's competitive , obviously , but but also just some things that are going to get pushed into the fourth quarter .
Speaker #6: But the pipeline remains healthy, and we're really pleased with where we stand.
Speaker #5: That's great . Maybe , maybe touching on on the credit side a little bit , you know , concerns . Are you know , they have gotten heightened in the industry right now .
[Analyst 1]: That's great. Maybe touching on the credit side a little bit, concerns are, they've gotten heightened in the industry right now. I guess first, I was hoping you could maybe touch on what are you seeing on the credit front? Is there anything that you're seeing broadly that's causing you any concern? Secondarily, I was just hoping you could maybe touch a bit on your approach to credit, collateral management, stress testing, and ongoing monitoring. It seems like some of those are what investors are concerned about in the industry. I was hoping you could elaborate maybe a little bit on your process and your approach to managing credit.
Speaker #5: I guess, first, I was hoping you could maybe touch on what you are seeing on the credit front. Is there anything that you’re seeing broadly that’s causing you any concern?
Speaker #5: And then secondarily , I was just hoping you could maybe touch a bit on your approach to credit . You know , collateral management , stress testing , ongoing monitoring .
Speaker #5: It seems like some of those are , are what's maybe investors are concerned about , you know , in the industry . So just was hoping you could elaborate maybe a little bit on your process .
Speaker #5: And your approach to managing credit .
Speaker #7: Yeah , I think the best way to manage credit is when they come in through the front door . David , I mean , so that's that's how we manage credit in most of the time .
Bob Franklin: Yeah, I think the best way to manage credit is when they come in through the front door, David. I mean, that's how we manage credit most of the time. However, we do stress testing. We do all the things that folks do to monitor portfolios. We're moving our portfolio from what was two smaller community banks into a larger community bank, and it has a different look. I think you've seen it on our balance sheet as we've gone from where we used to run our banks at, say, 90 to 100% loan to deposits. We're now down about in the low 80% and feel comfortable there. We're able to make money there. We're changing the mix a bit to try to have a little more emphasis on stickier commercial and industrial loans.
Speaker #7: However , we do stress testing . We do all the things that folks do to monitor portfolios . And , you know , we're we're moving our portfolio from from what was two real , two smaller community banks into , into a larger community bank .
Speaker #7: And it has a different look , I think you've seen it on our balance sheet as we've we've gone from where we used to run our banks and say 90 to 100% loan to deposits .
Speaker #7: We're now down to about in the low 80s and , and feel comfortable there . We're able to make money there . We're changing the mix a bit , the to try to have a little more emphasis on stickier CNI credits .
Speaker #7: Now we we we do . We are very careful about how we approach CNI and how that's getting monitored and what we do to to make sure that we have solid results .
Bob Franklin: We are very careful about how we approach commercial and industrial loans and how that's getting monitored and what we do to make sure that we have solid results around commercial and industrial loans. We also continue to do real estate loans, and those things have been good to us over the years. We're in a market that continues to grow, and real estate continues to be a good active place for us to put money. I think we would be more concerned if we were in a less dynamic market. We're in a very dynamic market. All the things that are affecting the world, for that matter, with tariffs and the various things that are happening today, I think are being absorbed pretty well in Houston and Dallas and the markets that we're in.
Speaker #7: Around results regarding CNI. However, we also continue to do real estate loans, and those things have been good to us over the years.
Speaker #7: We're in a market that continues to grow and and so real estate continues to be a good , active place for us to to put money .
Speaker #7: So we're I think we would be more concerned if we were in a , a less dynamic market . But we're in a very dynamic market .
Speaker #7: All the things that are that are affecting the world , for that matter , with tariffs and the various things that are happening today .
Speaker #7: I think we are being absorbed pretty well in Houston and Dallas and the markets that we're in, Beaumont. So we feel supported by our markets.
Bob Franklin: We feel supported by our markets, and I think it's about decision-making within, and that's kind of how we approach it.
Speaker #7: And , you know , I think it's about decision making with them . And that's kind of how we approach it .
Speaker #6: Okay .
[Analyst 1]: Okay. That's helpful. I just wanted to maybe switch gears to the deposit side. I mean, your growth was really strong this quarter. Your cost declined. I just wanted to get a sense of some of the drivers behind that. How much of that is new clients versus increasing liquidity or relationships with existing clients? With the liquidity build, even after paying down borrowings and buying a little bit of securities, I'm just kind of curious what your plans are for some of that excess liquidity going forward.
Speaker #5: That's helpful. And then I just wanted to maybe switch gears to the deposit side. I mean, your growth was really strong this quarter.
Speaker #5: You know , cost decline . Just wanted to get a sense of some of the drivers behind that . You know , how much of that is , you know , new clients versus , you know , increasing liquidity or relationships with existing clients .
Speaker #5: You know , and then just , you know , again , with the liquidity build , I mean , even after paying down borrowings and buying a little bit of securities , just kind of curious what your plans are for some of that excess liquidity going forward .
Speaker #6: I'll touch on . Well , let me tell real quick on that . On the on the deposits , on the deposit growth piece .
Ray Bottuli: Yeah, David, I'll touch up. Let me touch real quick on the deposits, on the deposit growth piece. Really pleased there, as we've already mentioned. Of our new deposits that were onboarded in the quarter, 51% were to new customers that had not been here before. We've seen that kind of hover in that 40 to 50% all year, which we really like. We think that's really a reflection of continued brand awareness of Stellar, our bankers, that are really having good success with market share gains. We've had improvement in our net promoter score, really getting into like a best-in-class area there, and customer satisfaction is all heading in the right direction. I think that just points to the fact that we continue to bring new customers to the bank, as well as this expansion of our existing customer base, which represents that other 50%.
Speaker #6: So really pleased there as , as we've already mentioned . So you know , of our , of our new deposits that we're onboarded in the quarter , 51% were to new customers that had not been here before .
Speaker #6: And we've seen that kind of hover in that 40 to 50% . All year , which we really like . And we think that's really reflection of of continued brand awareness of stellar .
Speaker #6: Our bankers that are really having good success with market share gains . You know , we've had improvement in our Net Promoter Score , really getting into like a best in class area there and customer satisfaction is all heading in the right direction .
Speaker #6: I think that just points to the fact that we continue to to bring new customers to the bank , as well as this expansion of our existing customer base , which represents that other 50% .
Speaker #6: But but really , the growth is really around those new accounts and deposits associated in that that are well exceeding in dollar amount .
Ray Bottuli: Really, the growth is really around those new accounts and the deposits associated in that that are well exceeding in dollar amount the closed accounts and our carry was nice and gave us a little lift.
Speaker #6: The closed accounts and our carried was , was nice and gave us a little lift .
Speaker #7: Yeah , David , we just feel that very strongly that that low cost deposits is is is something that everyone's going to be fighting over .
Bob Franklin: Yeah, David, we just feel very strongly that low-cost deposits is something that everyone's going to be fighting over, and it's something we put a big emphasis on in any relationship that we have. We are going to continue to do that. I think we've seen some success as we did this quarter, and hopefully, we'll continue to see that as we keep to push on that going forward. We are building some liquidity, and I think deploying that both in loans and securities is something that we intend to do in the future. We want to grow the loan portfolio. We want to, that's where we grow customers, and that's how we continue to grow the bank. It's important to us to continue on that line. A lot of turmoil in our markets, a lot of M&A going on, so it's given us opportunity for customers.
Speaker #7: It's something we put a big emphasis on in any relationship that we have, and so we're going to continue to do that.
Speaker #7: I think we've seen some success as we did this quarter , and hopefully we'll continue to see that as we keep the push push on that going forward .
Speaker #7: We are building some liquidity, and I think deploying that both in loans and securities is something that we intend to do in the future.
Speaker #7: But we want to grow the loan portfolio . We want to . That's where we grow customers and that's how we continue to grow the bank .
Speaker #7: And it's important to us to continue on that line . A lot of turmoil in our markets , a lot of M&A going on , a lot of so it's given us opportunity for customers .
Speaker #7: It's given us opportunity for for new employees and people to join our company , which is which is great . I think it's and but it's also has some negatives to it .
Bob Franklin: It's given us opportunity for new employees and people to join our company, which is great. I think it's also had some negatives to it in that you have new players in that want to buy the market, and you're seeing some interesting things around not only pricing, but covenant packages and sort of credit light. We're not going to join that party. That one doesn't fit us. If we have to retreat a little bit, we'll do it. We've been operating in a competitive market for a long time. We feel like we know how to do that. We'll get our share. If we continue to do the right things, which I think we are from a customer acquisition standpoint, we will grow the bank. That's kind of how we're approaching it.
Speaker #7: And that you have new players in that , that want to buy the market and you're seeing some interesting things around , not only pricing but but covenant packages and sort of credit light and we're not going to join that party that one doesn't doesn't fit us .
Speaker #7: And if we have to retreat a little bit , we'll do it . But we've we've been operating in a competitive market for a long time .
Speaker #7: We feel like we know how to do that . We'll get our share . And if we continue to do the right things , which I think we are from a customer acquisition standpoint , we'll continue to we will grow the bank .
Speaker #7: So that's kind of how we're approaching it.
Speaker #5: That's helpful. Thanks, everybody.
[Analyst 1]: That's helpful. Thanks, everybody.
Speaker #7: Thanks , Dave .
Ray Bottuli: Thank you.
Audra: We'll move next to Steven Scoutin at Piper Sandler.
Speaker #2: We'll move next to Stephen Scouten at Piper Sandler .
Speaker #8: Hey good morning everyone . Just following up on the deposits quickly . You tended to have some seasonal strength in the fourth quarter .
Ray Bottuli: Hey, good morning, everyone. Just following up on the deposits quickly, you've tended to have some seasonal strength in the fourth quarter. Is that something you would expect here this coming quarter as well?
Speaker #8: Is that something you would expect here ? This this coming quarter as well ?
Speaker #4: Can we talk about that all the time? Because we do have seasonal strength with some of our government banking deposits. In fact, this last year we had about $200 million of deposits that came in on the last day of Q4 2024.
Paul Egge: We talk about that all the time because we do have a seasonal strength with some of our government banking deposits. In fact, this last year, we had about a $200 million deposit that came in on the last day of 2024. It's kind of hard to predict as it relates to that. We'll keep you guys abreast if there's anything that majorly kind of creates a meaningful deviation from norm, as we did, I think, last year in telling y'all just how much represents what we would call seasonal excess. We'll note that when we report the third quarter, fourth quarter, I should say, if and when some of that tax revenue seasonality comes in before year end. A lot of it really hits in January and February, and it's kind of gone by March.
Speaker #4: It's kind of hard to predict as it relates to that . We'll keep you guys abreast if there's any anything that majorly kind of creates a meaningful deviation from norm , as we did , I think , last year in telling you all just how much represents what we would call seasonal excess .
Speaker #4: So we'll note that when we report the third quarter , if fourth quarter , I should say if and when some of that tax revenue seasonality comes in before year end , a lot of it really hits in January and February .
Speaker #4: And it's kind of gone by March . But sometimes in last year was a great example where sometimes it comes in right before the end of the year .
Paul Egge: Sometimes, and last year was a great example, sometimes it comes in right before the end of the year.
Speaker #7: But that's not reflected in this quarter's deposit growth. It doesn't happen until late in the fourth quarter when those government deposits.
Bob Franklin: That is not reflected in this quarter's deposit growth. It does not happen until late in the fourth quarter on those government deposits.
Speaker #4: Precisely .
Paul Egge: Precisely.
Speaker #8: Perfect. Great. That's a great color. When you were talking a little bit about the expense ratio, you mentioned that this looked like a bit of an outlier this quarter and that it could get back to that $70 million level.
[Analyst 1]: Perfect. Great. That's great color. When you were talking a little bit about the expense ratio, saying it looked like you know this was maybe a bit of an outlier this quarter and could get back to that $70 million level. What makes this quarter more of an outlier? I know there was the severance payment in there and salaries, what makes this an outlier? Do you think that kind of $70 million range is a level you can hang around in 2026, or should we see just some kind of general inflation build from here?
Speaker #8: What makes this quarter more of an outlier? I know there was the severance payment in there and salaries. But what makes this an outlier?
Speaker #8: And do you think that kind of 70 million range is a level you can hang around in 26 , or should we see just some kind of general inflation build from here ?
Speaker #4: Great . I'll say to to be more specific , I said that we'll see fourth quarter earnings closer to our first quarter , first half run rate than what we posted in the in the third quarter .
Paul Egge: I'll say to be more specific, I said that we'll see fourth quarter earnings closer to our first quarter or first half run rate than what we posted in the third quarter. It might not be just as great as the $70 million per quarter we were posting in the first half of the year, but definitely closer to that than the $73 million we posted in the third quarter. Separately, we will see some inflation. As you guys know, we've been focused on holding the line where we can and really being focused on just that. We feel great about how we've been able to kind of stop the creep in expenses, particularly as it relates to a lot of what we had to build in crossing over the $10 billion threshold.
Speaker #4: So it might not be just as great as the $70 million per quarter . We were posting in the first half year . But definitely closer to that than the $73 million we posted in the third quarter .
Speaker #4: Separately . We'll see some inflation . I mean , as you guys know , we've been focused on holding the line where we can and really being focused on just that .
Speaker #4: We feel great about how we've been able to kind of stop the creep in expenses, particularly as it relates to a lot of what we had to build in crossing over the $10 billion threshold.
Speaker #4: We're an optimization mode on a go forward , and we've been really pleased at how we've been able to do just that . While remixing kind of with attrition and things along those lines .
Paul Egge: We're in optimization mode on a go-forward, and we've been really pleased at how we've been able to do just that while remixing kind of with attrition and things along those lines in our human capital base. We feel really good about where we sit, and you know the goal is to continue optimizing and holding the line as much as we can going into 2026 and beyond.
Speaker #4: And our human capital base . So we feel really good about where we sit and , you know , the goal is to continue optimizing and holding the line as much as we can , going into 2026 and beyond .
Speaker #2: Next , we'll move to Will Jones at KBW .
Audra: Next, we'll move to Will Jones at KBW.
Speaker #9: Hey, great. Thanks. Good morning, guys.
[Analyst 2]: Hey, great. Thanks. Good morning, guys.
Speaker #6: You're welcome .
Ray Bottuli: You're welcome.
Speaker #9: Hey . So so Paul , maybe just sticking with you and moving to the margin discussion . I mean , if you exclude purchase accounting , we've kind of hit that 4% and design that felt like kind of the overarching , you know , near term target for you guys .
[Analyst 2]: Hey, so Paul, maybe just sticking with you and moving to the margin discussion. If you exclude purchase accounting, we've kind of hit that 4% window. That's felt like kind of the overarching near-term target for you guys. I go back to your comments on the call about feeling good about the ability just to defend that level, if not even improve from here. As we think about this next period of Fed easing, will that ability to defend, will that really be more of just some tailwinds from fixed-year pricing, or do you intend to be relatively aggressive lowering deposit costs from here? You know.
Speaker #9: And I go back to your comments on the call about feeling good about the ability just to defend that level . If not even improve from here .
Speaker #9: But as we think about this next period of fed easing , will that ability to defend , will that really be more of just some tailwinds from fixed repricing , or do you intend to be , you know , relatively aggressive lowering deposit costs from here ?
Speaker #4: Now we're going to focus on lowering deposit costs where we can. That predominantly is going to be on more of your specials and exception-level pricing.
Paul Egge: We're going to be focused on lowering deposit costs where we can. That predominantly is going to be on more of your specials and exception-level pricing. That's where we've got some index pricing for certain deposit products that we're going to get immediate benefit from when rates change. We feel really good about kind of the initial repricing dynamics. Separately, there are some tail trends that are helping us in how our securities and loans reprice. We're still in a pretty good backdrop to defend that margin. As the deck gets reshuffled at every rate cut, there could be some timing distinctions. We feel like the benefits are likely to sufficiently mitigate the drawbacks of how those reprices go on. We're feeling good about defending it. Actually, we're pleasantly surprised to have gotten to the 4% NIM excluding purchase accounting accretion as fast as we did.
Speaker #4: That's where we've got some index pricing for certain deposit products that that we're going to get immediate benefit from when rates change . So we we feel really good about kind of that initial repricing dynamics .
Speaker #4: And then separately there is some tailed trends that are helping us in how our securities and loans reprice . So , we're still in a in a kind of a pretty good backdrop to defend that margin .
Speaker #4: You know , as the deck gets reshuffled at every rate , cut , there could be some timing distinctions . But we feel like we've got the benefits are likely to sufficiently mitigate the drawbacks of how those repricing go on .
Speaker #4: So we're we're feeling good about defending it . Actually I we're pleasantly surprised to have gotten to a 4% Nim excluding purchase accretion as fast as we did .
Speaker #4: We we certainly did not promise that to the market and did not expect it necessarily to to materialize as quick . But we're really pleased that we were able to do that .
Paul Egge: We certainly did not promise that to the market and did not expect it necessarily to materialize as quick, but we're really pleased that we were able to do that, notwithstanding being a little less loaned up than what our budget and forecasts are and our plans to drive loan growth really are.
Speaker #4: Notwithstanding being a little less loaned up than what our budget and forecasts are in our plans to drive loan growth . Really , are .
Speaker #9: Yeah , I mean , I mean , what well done there . And could you just remind us , is there a kind of a terminal interest bearing deposits data that that you guys are trying to manage to through this cycle , maybe just as you look at what you what you were able to accomplish on the on the , the update cycle .
[Analyst 2]: Yeah. I mean, well done there. Could you just remind us, is there a kind of a terminal interest-bearing deposit beta that you guys are trying to manage through this cycle? Maybe just as you look at what you were able to accomplish on the up-rate cycle.
Speaker #4: We don't necessarily think of it in terminal basis. We're trying to gain as much ground as we can where we can.
Paul Egge: We don't necessarily think of it in terminal basis. We're trying to gain as much ground as we can where we can. Just like on the upswing where we weren't as aggressive in necessarily moving a lot of our kind of base sheet rates, we were more focused on, okay, how do we manage this exception population and this index population? How do you really manage your most price-sensitive customers on the deposit side? We're going to continue to do that on the way down. It's a nuanced approach. We feel like we're approaching it with more discipline than we really ever have in having a game plan for every rate cut and being ready to manage all those conversations and really get the highest beta out of our largest absolute value exception customers. That's all a reasonable ask.
Speaker #4: So just like on the upswing where we didn't , we weren't as meaningful , as aggressive as necessarily moving a lot of our kind of base sheet rates .
Speaker #4: And we were more focused on , okay , how do we manage this exception population and what we in this index population , how do you really manage your most price sensitive customers on the deposit side ?
Speaker #4: And we're going to continue to do that on the way down. And it's a nuanced approach. We feel like we're approaching it with more discipline than we really ever have in having a game plan for every rate cut and being ready to manage all those conversations and really get the highest beta out of our most out of our largest absolute value exception.
Speaker #4: Customers . And that's all the reasonable ask . And it's so far has functioned pretty well . And the September rate cut . So we'll follow the same game plan as we go forward .
Paul Egge: It so far has functioned pretty well in the September rate cut. We'll follow the same game plan as we go forward.
Speaker #9: Yeah okay . And then maybe to follow up , as you know , we've talked about deposits and the growth that's happened there and kind of the excess liquidity that you have as a result .
[Analyst 2]: Okay. Maybe to follow up, as you know we've talked about deposits and the growth that's happened there and kind of the excess liquidity that you have as a result. If we do continue to fight the paydown bug a little bit and to the extent loans don't really ramp up in growth meaningfully in here in the near term, could you look to be a little more opportunistic adding to the bond book from here?
Speaker #9: You know , if we do continue to , fight the Paydown bug a little bit and to the extent loans , you know , don't you know , really ramp up in growth meaningfully in the near term , could you look to be a little more opportunistic , adding to the bond book from here ?
Speaker #4: It's definitely an option and it's something that we talk about every day really . What is the right size of the bond book ?
Paul Egge: It's definitely an option. It's something that we talk about every day, really. What is the right size of the bond book? How do we manage our balance sheet best? We feel awesome about the fact that we're building an even more fortress-like balance sheet with strong capital, strong liquidity, and a really nice foundation to grow upon. We think that flexibility is going to allow us to be opportunistic when more meaningful loan growth presents itself or when other strategic opportunities can present themselves. We are very pleased to be having a very healthy and strong balance sheet.
Speaker #4: How do we manage our balance sheet best? We feel awesome about the fact that we're building an even more fortress-like balance sheet with strong capital, strong liquidity, and a really nice foundation to grow upon.
Speaker #4: So, we think that flexibility can allow us to be opportunistic when, you know, more meaningful loan growth presents itself, or when other strategic opportunities can present themselves.
Speaker #4: So we are very pleased to be having a very healthy and strong balance sheet.
Speaker #9: Yeah . Okay . Fair enough . That's it for me guys . Thank you . .
[Analyst 2]: Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. That is it from me, guys. Thank you.
Speaker #2: As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one. We'll go next to Matt Olney at Stephens.
Ray Bottuli: Thanks, buddy.
Audra: As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star one. We'll go next to Matt Olney at Stephens.
Speaker #10: Thanks. Good morning. I wanted to circle back on the loan growth discussion, and you know, we talked about the elevated payoffs a few minutes ago.
[Analyst 3]: Thanks. Good morning. I wanted to circle back on the loan growth discussion. We talked about the elevated payoffs a few minutes ago. I'm just curious, when do you expect this to slow? I mean, we're seeing rates move lower in the fourth quarter and expectation that continues now for a little bit more. I would think that would just create more payoffs, not less. Just curious what your expectations are as when we could see this pressure ease up. Thanks.
Speaker #10: I'm just curious when do you expect this to slow ? I mean , we're seeing rates move lower in the fourth quarter . And expectation that continues now for a little bit more .
Speaker #10: I would think that would just create more payoffs , not less , but just curious what your expectations are is when we could see this pressure .
Speaker #10: Ease up . Thanks .
Speaker #6: Hey , Matt . So one of the things that we will get a lift , we will get a lift from our advances exceeding our our paydowns and payments .
Ray Bottuli: Hey, Matt. One of the things that we will get a lift from is our advances exceeding our paydowns and payments. When you go back and look at our history of when we were getting a lift, it patterns, kind of, this matches up with our loan originations. As we said, loan originations are up 62%. We will get some lift there, whether that's, we may be a couple of quarters away from that helping us and not taking away from loan growth. That's kind of in the good news category. I think we're going to have to manage through the fact that we've got the way the portfolio, the nature of the portfolio of this, you know, $300 to $350 million of payoffs that we have.
Speaker #6: And that's I mean , we when you go back and look at our history of , of of when we were getting a lift , it patterns kind of this it matches up with our loan originations .
Speaker #6: So we as we said , we've loan originations are up 62% . We will get some lift there . Whether that's maybe a couple quarters away from that helping us and not taking away from loan growth .
Speaker #6: So that's that's kind of in the good news category . I think we're going to have to manage through the fact that we've got the way the portfolio , the nature of the portfolio of this 300 to 350 million of payoffs that we have , and we'll do our best to , to , to try to limit that through some of those loans and refinancing elsewhere to put our best foot forward .
Ray Bottuli: We'll do our best to try to limit that through some of those loans that are refinancing elsewhere to put our best foot forward. The real story is going to be on that side. It's going to be the funded portion of the new loans that we originate. Again, our pipeline's healthy. If we're in this, you know, like last quarter, $600 million of origination, that's getting us closer to where that will get the fundings, even with the payoffs, to get us. As you know, last quarter, we had a slight gain and or slight increase in net funded loan balances. It's just a matter of delivering on that pipeline and continuing on the path that we've seen in the last couple of quarters and really year to date. We said before that we thought growth would manifest in the second half of the year.
Speaker #6: But the real story is going to be on that side , is going to be the funded portion of the new loans that we originate .
Speaker #6: So our again , our pipeline is healthy . If we're in this , you know , like last quarter , $600 million of origination that's getting us closer to where that will get the fundings .
Speaker #6: Even with the payoffs to get us , as you know , last quarter , we were we had a slight gain and or slight increase in net funded loan balances .
Speaker #6: So it's just it's a matter of delivering on our on that pipeline and continuing on the , on the path that we've seen the last couple of quarters .
Speaker #6: And really year to date . You know , we said before that we thought growth would manifest in the second half of the year .
Speaker #6: Of course , we still have the fourth quarter , but going into 26 , we feel good that that we will pivot to that .
Ray Bottuli: Of course, we still have the fourth quarter, but going into 2026, we feel good that we will pivot to that.
Speaker #10: Okay. I appreciate that, Ray. I also want to get the updated dots around M&A. We're definitely seeing more M&A deal announcements in your backyard.
[Analyst 2]: Okay. Appreciate that, Ray. Also, want to get the updated thoughts around M&A. We're definitely seeing more M&A deal announcements in your backyard. Just curious about the conversations you're having with strategic partners and expectations for finding a partner for Stellar Bank. Thanks.
Speaker #10: Just curious about the conversations you're having with strategic partners and expectations for finding a partner for Seller Bank. Thanks.
Speaker #7: Yeah . Matt . We continue to have conversations . We talked to a lot of folks . You know , I think you've seen some transactions that that that we've had some interest in , some not .
Bob Franklin: Yeah, Matt, we continue to have conversations. We've talked to a lot of folks. I think it seems some transactions that we'd have some interest in, some not. The thing to remember and the thing that we want everyone to understand is that we're very protective of the balance sheet that we built and the deposit base that we built. As we look at partners out there and how they've structured their funding, it would not behoove us to join somebody that takes away from the funding base that we have just to be larger. I think what we want to do is make sure that we find the right partners that think about the world the same way we do and fund themselves in a similar fashion. We continue to have conversations.
Speaker #7: But it I think the , the the thing to remember and the thing that we want to everyone to understand is that we're , we're very protective of , of the balance sheet that we built and the deposit base that we built and as we look at partners out there and how they've structured their funding , it would be it would not behoove us to to join somebody that that takes away from the funding base that we have just to , just to be larger .
Speaker #7: So I think what we want to do is make sure that we find the right partners , that think about the world the same way we do , and find themselves in a similar fashion .
Speaker #7: So we continue to have conversations . I think there's a possibility that we could be active in this space , but we're going to be careful about how we approach it .
Bob Franklin: I think there's a possibility that we can be active in this space, but we're going to be careful about how we approach it.
Speaker #10: Okay , thanks for the commentary and agree . It's a it's a high class problem to have protecting the balance sheet and just just lastly , for me , I guess over to Paul .
[Analyst 3]: Okay. Thanks for the commentary and agree. It's a high-class problem to have protecting the balance sheet. Lastly for me, I guess over to Paul. Paul, I heard you mention the purchase accounting accretion in prepared remarks. I'm looking for the updated fair value mark on that portfolio.
Speaker #10: Paul , I heard you mentioned the purchase accounting , accretion and prepared remarks looking for the updated fair value mark on that , on that portfolio .
Speaker #4: I believe it's $58.1 million that is left of the loan discount.
Paul Egge: I believe it's $58.1 million is what's left of the loan discount.
Speaker #10: Perfect. Okay, guys, thanks for your help.
[Analyst 3]: Perfect. Okay, guys, thanks for your help.
Speaker #8: Thanks .
Ray Bottuli: Thanks, man.
Speaker #4: Thanks , Matt .
Paul Egge: Thanks, Matt.
Speaker #2: And that concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the conference back over to Bob Franklin for closing remarks.
Audra: That concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the conference back over to Bob Franklin for closing remarks.
Speaker #7: Thank you very much for joining our call today . And with that , we are adjourned .
Bob Franklin: Thank you very much for joining our call today. With that, we are adjourned.
Audra: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.