Q3 2025 EverCommerce Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #1: Thank you for standing by and welcome to EverCommerce Inc. third Quarter 2020 Earnings Call . My name is Jonathan and I will be your operator for today .
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Speaker #1: As a reminder , this conference is being recorded today , Thursday , November 6th , 2025 . And now I'd like to turn the conference over to Bradley Korch Senior Vice President and Head of Investor Relations at EverCommerce Inc. .
Speaker #1: Please go ahead , sir .
Speaker #2: Good afternoon , and thank you for joining . Today's call will be led by Eric Remer EverCommerce Inc. , Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Josh Mcartor , ever prose Chief Executive officer .
Speaker #2: And Ryan Siurek EverCommerce Inc. , chief Financial officer . Joining them for the Q&A portion of the call are EverCommerce Inc. President Matt Firestein and Everett Health's chief executive officer Evan Berlin .
Speaker #2: This call is being webcast with a slide presentation that reviews the key financial and operating results for the three months ended September 30th , 2025 .
Speaker #2: For a link to the live or replay webcast , please visit the Investor Relations section of the EverCommerce Inc. website . WW EverCommerce Inc. .
Speaker #2: Com the slide presentation and earnings release are also available on the site . Please turn to page two of our earnings call presentation while I review our Safe Harbor statement .
Speaker #2: Statements made on this call and contained in the Earnings materials available on our website that are not historical in nature , may constitute forward looking statements .
Speaker #2: Such statements are based on the current expectations and beliefs of management . Actual results may differ materially from these forward looking statements due to risks and uncertainties that are described in more detail in our filings with the SEC .
Speaker #2: We undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise these forward looking statements , except as required by law . We will also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures in our comments today .
Speaker #2: A reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP historical measures is provided in our earnings or press release , and our earnings call presentation . As a quick reminder , following our announcement in March that we are seeking strategic alternatives for the marketing technology solutions we had classified marketing technology as discontinued operations .
Speaker #2: Last week , we announced the sale of this business to ignite Visibility , our commentary today will center on the continuing operations of our business , focused on our ever Health ever pro and everwell verticals .
Speaker #2: All financial and operating metric results are presented relating to continuing operations only , unless otherwise specified . I will now turn it over to our CEO , Eric Remer .
Speaker #2: Please continue .
Speaker #3: Thank you . Brad . On today's call , I will highlight both third quarter results and our recent acquisition of an AI platform that we believe will accelerate our AI development .
Speaker #3: Before turning the call over to Ryan to discuss our financial performance in more detail during the third quarter , EverCommerce Inc. generated revenue of $147.5 million within the previously provided guidance range .
Speaker #3: This represents a 5.3% year over year growth , both on a reported and pro forma basis . As we fully lapped the sale of the fitness solutions and the acquisition of Zyrtec at material impact on the quarter .
Speaker #3: Adjusted EBITDA of $46.5 million beat the top of our guidance range, representing a margin of 31.5%. Adjusted EBITDA margin expanded 150 basis points year over year.
Speaker #3: Payments revenue grew 6% year over year as we continue to invest in product and go to market motions to grow our total payments volume .
Speaker #3: The most exciting in the quarter was the strategic acquisition of Zyrtec , a best in class AI platform company , highly focused on the field service management industry , which will serve as the center of our AI acceleration efforts .
Speaker #3: Finally , on October 31st , we closed the sale of our marketing technology solutions to ignite visibility as we continue to execute EverCommerce Inc. transformation Optimization program .
Speaker #3: We believe narrowing our focus to provide best in class AI powered vertical software is the most effective path to maximize long term growth margin accretion and ultimately , shareholder value .
Speaker #3: The completion of this transaction allows us to focus our energy and resources on our core SaaS and payments business . EverCommerce Inc. provides SaaS solutions for the service SMB economy .
Speaker #3: We offer tremendous value to our customers by providing system of actions necessary to run their business with tailored , unique workflows . We provide end to end solutions to more than 725,000 customers across our three major verticals ever Pro for home field services .
Speaker #3: Ever Health for Physician Practices , and Ever for Wellness service Providers . With a two former verticals representing approximately 95% of consolidated revenue , our large base of customers represents an immense imbedded opportunity to provide value added features and services like payments and customer rebates for purchasing programs in a pro forma basis .
Speaker #3: For the last 12 months , we generated $585.1 million in revenue , representing 7.6% year over year growth . generated 31% of adjusted EBITDA margin on an LTM basis .
Speaker #3: Finally , our annualized total payments volume , or TPV , expanded to approximately $13 billion as I've highlighted in the past . Accelerating payments , adoption and utilization continues to be one of our highest priorities in 2025 .
Speaker #3: We have continued to make specific investments in our product capabilities and go to market motions to prioritize payments enablement , activation , and utilization .
Speaker #3: Our results of third quarter show continued progress against this goal , with strong growth in both both payment enablement and utilization We also .
Speaker #3: At the end of the third quarter , 276,000 customers were enabled for more than one solution , reflecting 33% year over year growth .
Speaker #3: At the end of the third quarter , approximately 116,000 customers were actively utilizing more than one solution , reflecting a 32% year over year growth .
Speaker #3: Enabling customers for more than one solution is a first step in the funnel that leads to increased revenue retention and ultimately , profitability .
Speaker #3: These customers . We continue to focus majority of our efforts on the front book attach or the enablement of payments at the point of initial sale , but we also focus on our back book cross-sell motions .
Speaker #3: We are expanding our customer success capabilities to boost activation , retention , and wallet share , and we streamlined and improved our onboarding workflows in the third quarter .
Speaker #3: Our front book attach rates in our two flagship system of actions with an ever pro and ever health verticals for both greater than 60% , which represents significant year over year improvements .
Speaker #3: Looking back over the trailing 12 months , our annualized net revenue retention , or Gnrh-r , was 97% . Customers that purchased and utilized more than one solution are naturally some of our most profitable and stickiest customers .
Speaker #3: With gnrh-r of greater than 100% year over year , our payments revenue grew 6% and accounted for approximately 21% of overall revenue . As a reminder , we report our payments revenue on a net basis and therefore it incrementally contributes approximately 95% gross margin .
Speaker #3: As such , payments revenue growth is meaningful contributor to our overall adjusted EBITDA margin expansion . As I mentioned in my introductory comments , third quarter estimated estimated annualized total payment volume , or TPV , was approximately $13 billion , representing a nearly 5.2% year over year growth .
Speaker #3: Within this , we continue to see higher TPV growth in our top solutions , offset by lower growth in legacy payment products and third party partners .
Speaker #3: This can be a positive mix shift over time as our top solution often have higher take rates in mid-September , we announced the acquisition of Zyrtec , an AI powered customer engagement solution that combines virtual assistant capabilities with an Agentic automation platform .
Speaker #3: The acquisition helps to establish EverCommerce Inc. position as an AI driven innovator , beginning with the intended near-term application in our home and field service vertical .
Speaker #3: Ever Pro , we plan to extend into broader opportunities across the company . I will now turn the call over to Josh Carter , CEO of Avapro , to discuss our talk in more detail .
Speaker #3: Josh , thanks .
Speaker #2: Eric .
Speaker #4: Zyrtec transforms how businesses operate by replacing outdated processes with intelligent , end to end AI workflows . The platform is an AI powered customer engagement solution that combines virtual assistant capabilities with agentic automation , primarily serving the home services industry and capabilities for serving our other verticals .
Speaker #4: Its AI receptionists ensure that no call lead or customer interaction is ever missed. Meanwhile, the Agentic AI capabilities integrate deeply with FSM platforms to automate the core of daily operations.
Speaker #4: To date , the platform has processed over 2 million chats and 2,000,000 minutes of voice interactions through its integrations with major Fsm's . The fully autonomous AI agents and a lightweight Agentic FSM system are designed for seamless integration across ever pros platforms .
Speaker #4: The acquisition brings AI at scale to EverCommerce Inc. , with many in features that are both being sold to third party customers today and being fast tracked for multiple ever pro native integrations over the coming months .
Speaker #4: Some of the key features available today are the AI receptionist , AI scheduler , and AI dispatch . The AI receptionist answers inbound inquiries instantly , books jobs , answers questions and routes calls 24 over seven .
Speaker #4: Just like a front desk that never goes offline . AI scheduler allows customers to book , reschedule , or cancel appointments anytime by phone or online .
Speaker #4: The AI dispatcher automatically assigns the right technician to the right job based on skill , location , and availability . Keeping field teams efficient without human oversight .
Speaker #4: These in the additional features shown on the slide . Automate the full workflow from first contact to final payment , improving response time , reducing labor , and helping to drive revenue .
Speaker #4: Beyond this foundation , we are to add more features and offerings to support our customers . Beginning in our home and field services solutions .
Speaker #4: In addition to the full integration into many ever pro systems of action , we are actively developing new Agentic capabilities that should roll out over the next 12 months .
Speaker #4: These include an AI project manager that keeps every job on track from first call to final review , updating customers and text automatically .
Speaker #4: We're working on an AI training and QA agent that listens to calls and gives working coaching to technicians , like a built in quality manager .
Speaker #4: We plan to utilize the underpinnings of our service nation platform to deliver an AI business coach . And of course , we are planning to use the capabilities to better onboard customers to our payments and rebates platforms .
Speaker #4: Together , these upgrades significantly improve the customer experience by bringing AI capabilities with full end to end automation , boosting efficiency and revenue without adding headcount .
Speaker #3: Thanks , Josh . Talk is a strategic AI investment that will help drive our long term growth while delivering greater value to our customers .
Speaker #3: The acquisition brings us a production ready AI platform , a highly skilled technical team , and a proven technology that's purpose built for the service based industries .
Speaker #3: Our customers buy definition are subscale operators , plumbers with a trucker , three small physician practices and solo salon operators to them , AI is a force multiplier , harnessing the power of AI provides them a 24 hour receptionist , a billing department , and a not so distant future .
Speaker #3: A personal coach . We plan to leverage the AI and capabilities acquired to increase the value proposition across all aspects of our solution set .
Speaker #3: Now I'll pass it over to Ryan , who will review our financial results in more detail , as well as provide fourth quarter and full year 2020 guidance .
Speaker #3: Thanks , Eric .
Speaker #4: Total reported revenue in the third quarter was 147.5 million , up 5.3% from the prior year period . Subscription and transaction revenue are primarily recurring revenue base was 142.2 million for Q3 2025 year over year .
Speaker #4: Pro forma subscription and transaction revenue growth was 4.4% , within subscription and transaction revenue . Our core SaaS revenue grew over 8% in the quarter , partially offset by macro and tariff related impacts in our more usage based revenue streams such as rebates , which is our share of rebates through group purchasing programs within Pro adjusted gross profit .
Speaker #4: In the quarter was 114 million , representing an adjusted gross profit margin of 77.3% versus 78.1% in Q3 2020 . For third quarter , adjusted EBITDA was 46.5 million , which is a 10.3% growth year over year .
Speaker #4: Adjusted EBITDA margins of 31.5% compares to 30.1% in Q3 2020 . For representing margin expansion of 140 basis points on a year over year basis , margins improved due to continued cost optimization initiatives .
Speaker #4: Mix shift to higher-margin products and overall scale economies. Now turning to adjusted operating expenses, which are reconciled in the appendix to this presentation.
Speaker #4: Overall , adjusted operating expenses improved as a percentage of revenue , both for the quarter from 48.1% to 45.8% on a year over year basis and on an LTM basis from 48.6% to 46.7% .
Speaker #4: While the timing of investments and expenses was a factor , the long term trend of continued operating expense moderation is delivered and attributable to both growth of the business and specific actions taken as part of our transformation and optimization programs .
Speaker #4: We maintain our focus on improvement in customer satisfaction and acquisition , while also remaining highly focused on cost , discipline and functional support areas .
Speaker #4: Next , I'll turn to some key liquidity measures , which include cash flow from continuing and discontinued operations . We continue to generate significant free cash flow as we invest to grow our business .
Speaker #4: Cash flow from operations for the quarter was 32.5 million . Improving from the 27.5 million generated in Q3 2020 . Four . Leverage free cash flow was 23.3 million in the quarter , and for the trailing 12 month period , we generated more than 111 million in levered free cash flow , adjusted unlevered free cash flow was 32.3 million in the quarter , and 140.6 million for the last 12 months .
Speaker #4: As we continue to invest to accelerate growth . A portion of this investment is in our solutions . This is evident in our free cash flow metrics , which are largely flat year over year .
Speaker #4: Despite product investments , which increased our capitalized product development expenses . We ended the quarter with 107 million in cash and cash equivalents , and $155 million of undrawn capacity on our revolver , which will step down to 125 million in July 2026 .
Speaker #4: Cash declined on a sequential quarterly basis , primarily as a result of our strategic acquisition of Zyrtec during the quarter . As of September 30th , we have 528 million of debt outstanding .
Speaker #4: Our total net leverage , as calculated for our credit facility was approximately 2.1 times . And continues to demonstrate our deleveraging from strong operational performance and free cash generation .
Speaker #4: We have 425 million of notional swaps at a weighted average rate of 3.91% . That effectively hedged the floating rate component of our interest costs through October 2027 .
Speaker #4: In the third quarter , we repurchased approximately 2.6 million shares for $29.1 million at an average price of $11.10 per share . Based on the shares repurchased through September 30th , 2025 .
Speaker #4: We have approximately $22.3 million remaining in our total repurchase authorization . In addition , our board recently authorized an increase in our share program to 300 million , an increase of 50 million through the end of 2026 .
Speaker #4: I would now like to finish by discussing our outlook for the fourth quarter and the full year of 2025 . As a reminder , our guidance for revenue and adjusted EBITDA for 2025 is based on our continued operations , which excludes marketing , technology , solutions .
Speaker #4: Our guidance also includes Zyrtec , but the expected contribution in the fourth quarter is immaterial . For the fourth quarter of 2025 , we expect total revenue of 148 to 152 million and adjusted EBITDA of 39.5 to 41.5 million .
Speaker #4: For the full year 2025 , we are narrowing both our revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance ranges with an increase to the top end of the adjusted EBITDA range .
Speaker #4: We expect total revenue of 584 to 592 million and adjusted EBITDA of 174.5 to 179.5 million . Operator , we are now ready to take the first question .
Speaker #1: Certainly , and our first question comes from the line of Bhavin Shah from Deutsche Bank . Your question , please .
Speaker #5: Great . Thanks for taking my questions . Eric , maybe just start off with you . I just want to dig into the Zyrtec acquisition , which kind of seems compelling to us .
Speaker #5: Can you just maybe talk a little bit more about the business model ? Is it subscription consumption based ? And over time , what percentage of your customer base do you think this will be suitable for ?
Speaker #5: As you think about the key solutions that you might attach to .
Speaker #3: Who appreciate the question on a at a high level , you know , we're not kind of breaking out the , you know , the basis of kind of subscription versus , you know , integrate into the rest of the system at this point , as we look at the actual acquisition , there's really two main things that we're really excited about .
Speaker #3: Number one , this particular product has been built fully like fully focused on the home service sector . So all of the data , all the minutes , all the calling that they have done over the last really 3 to 4 years has been fully focused basically to our customer base .
Speaker #3: So it's a turnkey product that we're allowed to integrate almost real time . And we'll talk about the integration in a second . Secondly , a lot of the development that they have done within the ecosystem for the Agentic AI , within that , within their core product is going to be utilized across our core system .
Speaker #3: So as we see the kind of the future of how those products come together . I think you'll start seeing in late 26 and 27 how that kind of integrates together versus a breakout of , you know , zero revenue , you separately on the right .
Speaker #4: I think with everything that Eric said , we plan to fully integrate , there's a book of business that comes with Zyrtec that wasn't our primary thesis , though , for the acquisition , the primary thesis was the integration that Eric just described in terms of the capabilities that it's going to bring to the SMB space , particularly in the home and field services .
Speaker #4: But I would say that over time , we plan to expand to other verticals that we have as well . And you should expect to see this kind of as bolt ons or upsell cross sell motions as we continue to build out that strategy .
Speaker #5: Got it . That's helpful . There , Ryan . Just kind of follow up for you . Just can you just maybe elaborate what played out with the rebate program ?
Speaker #5: Can you just think about the overall size of that program and kind of what's factored into guidance for that program ? As you think about forecast ?
Speaker #4: Yeah , I would say that that was probably the one space that we had any particular headwinds in , in the business in Q3 .
Speaker #4: The core business , as we described , is very resilient and strong , particularly in the SMB market , rebates as a percentage of our overall revenue base is quite small , actually .
Speaker #4: But from the quarter over quarter perspective , there was about 1.6 million of softness . And the rebates was really this group purchasing programs that we have as part of our service program .
Speaker #4: Overall , it's a good business for us , but it does actually have a little more susceptibility to the macroeconomic factors and tariffs in particular , were probably one of the areas where we saw some impact .
Speaker #4: If you saw the HVAC manufacturers that released earnings earlier , there was a number of sightings with regard to kind of softness in that space , not only for Q3 , but some projection into Q4 with expected recovery in in 2026 , that is kind of where we saw some of the softness in that space as well .
Speaker #4: But overall , I would say that and , you know , it's not a significant impact to to the business . We did factor that into our overall guidance and don't expect a significant continuation .
Speaker #5: Great . Thanks for taking my questions .
Speaker #1: Thank you . And our next question comes from the line of Kirk Materne from Evercore ISI . Your question please .
Speaker #6: Hi . This is Bill on for Kirk and thanks for taking my question . I was wondering if maybe you could walk us through , I guess , some of the changes to the guidance for the remainder of the fiscal year and kind of any trends you're seeing in the macro environment that have caused you to change your guidance .
Speaker #4: Good . I just gave a certain information on that . Kirk , thanks for the question . I'm trying to make sure I understood and heard your question from a guidance perspective .
Speaker #4: No macro economic impacts other than when we described on , you know , the group purchasing programs , which really is a small portion of our overall revenue base from SMB perspective .
Speaker #4: Overall , we're continuing to see strength in the marketplace , in our core SaaS . You know , continues to have strong growth opportunities .
Speaker #4: We've seen 8% growth , really from a SaaS perspective . And then I would say that , you know , we continue to have really strong , you know , efforts in the transformation optimization side of what we're doing , which is why we felt very comfortable to to increase our adjusted EBITDA guidance for for the full year .
Speaker #4: But we did tighten the range both on on revenue and on adjusted EBITDA . And taking into account some of those macroeconomic impacts that we talked about earlier .
Speaker #6: Okay , great . Thanks for taking my question .
Speaker #4: Thank you .
Speaker #1: Thank you . And our next question comes from the line of Matt Hedberg from RBC . Your question please .
Speaker #7: Thanks for my questions , guys . Eric , you know , I wanted to go back to the talk acquisition . I just maybe I wasn't it wasn't clear to me , but but how is the pricing for that today .
Speaker #7: And do you see it evolving once it's fully integrated to to the platform .
Speaker #3: Yeah . So just on a core basis , the product that they're in market with today sells both out of subscription and usage basis .
Speaker #3: So subscription by utilizing the product and usage , every time , every minute that it's been utilized on an AI reception as . The reason the larger answer was really focused on , you know , that was a , you know , part of the thesis .
Speaker #3: But really kind of a smaller part of the overall thesis for the acquisition . So as as Ryan talked about that , we definitely brought over customer base and a book of business .
Speaker #3: And the real focus of us is the customer base that is utilizing the product today is actually just making our systems smarter and smarter .
Speaker #3: So as we integrate it into the core EverCommerce Inc. solutions , which we've already done , and Josh can talk about that in a second , our ability to integrate that , the assistance to start off on the other Agentic , you know , pieces of that software is going to make all of our software's specifically FSM area just more effective .
Speaker #3: And on going basis . So why not do that ? Josh .
Speaker #4: Yeah , I think on from a pricing standpoint , we definitely view this as a SaaS model . So for the AI receptionist , we'll be selling that as a SaaS model .
Speaker #4: And then as Eric mentioned , we will be integrating various AI agents throughout our FSM systems . And that will just be reflected over time as as increases in SaaS pricing .
Speaker #7: Got it . Okay . That's helpful . Maybe just even just more philosophically speaking . You know , one of the questions about software has been , you know , what is the future of seat based models in the future ?
Speaker #7: And I'm just sort of curious , you know , you've got a blend today . And obviously payments is is a big part of that seat based model .
Speaker #7: But do you see the future of EverCommerce Inc. pricing changing to look even more like consumption or usage ? And pivoting away from seats , or do you always expect to have some sort of a blend there ?
Speaker #4: I think we would . I mean , we're going to continue with the existing pricing mechanisms that we have . We'll continue to evaluate , you know , the market space in general .
Speaker #4: I think our our space from an SMB perspective is quite unique . If we see the opportunity to do more in the variable type pricing , as we think about the 2026 budget and beyond , we will we will definitely consider that .
Speaker #4: But it's not a strategic shift or focus from a change perspective in terms of how we run and operate our business .
Speaker #7: Got it . Thanks , guys .
Speaker #1: Thank you . And as a reminder , ladies and gentlemen , if you do have a question at this time , please press star one one on your telephone .
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from the line of Alex Sklar from Raymond James . Your question please .
Speaker #8: Hi , this is Jessica on for Alex . Thanks for taking my question . Just got one . So on your spending optimization efforts , how have things been progressing their margins are continuing to track nicely in the right direction .
Speaker #8: But on the reduction of third party costs , you've called out in the past how much more leverage do you see over the medium term ?
Speaker #8: Thank you .
Speaker #4: Yeah , we continue to find , you know , good success in our transformation optimization program . I would say that we've been able to reduce operating costs pretty substantially over $10 million in 2025 .
Speaker #4: We continue to have a really solid tracking mechanism against those efforts . I think you're going to see us to continue the transformation optimization program that we have in place is not a one and done .
Speaker #4: It is something that we are kind continuing to embed in the operating model that we have . Overall , we're at over 30% adjusted EBITDA margins at this point in time .
Speaker #4: That's grown since the days of our IPO in the the low 20% adjusted EBITDA margin . So over 1,000% . And we continue to see opportunity for us to expand on the overall margin expansion through the programs that we have , both for transformation and for optimization .
Speaker #4: The the management teams are stood up at this point in time , both for ever Pro and ever health . And we feel like that is putting us in a solid position to continue to to to exit 2025 and grow in 26 .
Speaker #4: But not just from a revenue perspective . And we'll continue to look for margin expansion as we move into the future . I would say that the only thing that I would moderate on that is that as we continue to look at investment opportunities , we'll we'll continue to focus to make sure that the products that we're offering , you know , to our customers , have the right features and functionality .
Speaker #4: So we're going to continue to to grow and invest in those . And you can see that from a cash flow perspective in terms of the investment that we made in capitalized software year over year , I think we invested on an LTN basis about 25 million , compared to about 18 million in the prior year , which just continues to demonstrate our continued focus on developing products for our customers .
Speaker #8: Got it . Thank you .
Speaker #1: Thank you . And this does conclude the question and answer session of today's program . I'd like to hand the program back to Eric Remer CEO for any further remarks .
Speaker #3: Thanks . Well , thank you again for joining the call today . We have incredible momentum in our core and payment solutions combined with meaningful margin expansion as we continue to optimize our cost base .
Speaker #3: On top of this , there is tremendous excitement surrounding our AI roadmap that we believe will differentiate our solutions in the marketplace . I'd like to thank our investors for their continued support and all of our conference employees for their hard work .
Speaker #3: Operator this concludes our call .
Speaker #1: Thank you . And thank you , ladies and gentlemen , for your participation in today's conference . This does conclude the program . You may now disconnect .
Speaker #1: Thank you for standing by . And welcome to EverCommerce Inc. Third Quarter 2020 earnings call . My name is Jonathan and I will be your operator for today .
Speaker #1: At this time , all participants are a listen only mode . After the speaker's presentation , there will be a question and answer session to ask a question .
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Speaker #1: As a reminder , this conference is being recorded today , Thursday , November 6th , 2025 . And now I'd like to turn the conference over to Bradley Korch Senior Vice President and Head of Investor Relations at EverCommerce Inc. .
Speaker #1: Please go ahead , sir .
Speaker #2: Good afternoon , and thank you for joining . Today's call will be led by Eric Remer EverCommerce Inc. , Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Josh Mcartor .
Speaker #2: Ever prose chief Executive officer . And Ryan Siurek EverCommerce Inc. , chief Financial officer . Joining them for the Q&A portion of the call are EverCommerce Inc. President Matt Firestein and Everett Health chief Executive Officer Evan Berlin .
Speaker #2: This call is being webcast with the slide presentation that reviews the key financial and operating results for the three months ended September 30th , 2025 .
Speaker #2: For a link to the live or replay webcast , please visit the Investor Relations section of the EverCommerce Inc. website . WWE EverCommerce Inc. .
Speaker #2: The slide presentation and earnings release are also available on the site. Please turn to page two of our earnings call presentation while I review our Safe Harbor statement.
Speaker #2: Statements made on this call and contained in the Earnings materials available on our website that are not historical in nature , may constitute forward looking statements .
Speaker #2: Such statements are based on the current expectations and beliefs of management . Actual results may differ materially from these forward looking statements due to risks and uncertainties that are described in more detail in our filings with the SEC .
Speaker #2: We undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise these forward-looking statements, except as required by law. We will also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures in our comments today.
Speaker #2: A reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP historical measures is provided in both our earnings press release and our earnings call presentation . As a quick reminder , following our announcement in March that we are seeking strategic alternatives for the marketing technology solutions we had classified marketing technology as discontinued operations .
Speaker #2: Last week , we announced the sale of this business to ignite visibility . Our commentary today will center on the continuing operations of our business , focused on our ever health , ever pro and ever well verticals .
Speaker #2: All financial and operating metric results are presented relating to continuing operations only , unless otherwise specified . I will now turn it over to our CEO Eric Remer .
Speaker #2: Please continue .
Speaker #3: Thank you . Brad . On today's call , I will highlight both third quarter results and our recent acquisition of an AI platform that we believe will accelerate our AI development .
Speaker #3: Before turning the call over to Ryan to discuss our financial performance in more detail during the third quarter . EverCommerce Inc. generated revenue of $147.5 million within the previous provided guidance range .
Speaker #3: This represents a 5.3% year over year growth , both on a reported and pro forma basis . As we fully lapped the sale of the fitness solutions and the acquisition of Zyrtec at an immaterial impact on the quarter .
Speaker #3: Adjusted EBITDA of $46.5 million was at the top of our guidance range, representing a margin of 31.5%. Adjusted EBITDA margin expanded 140 basis points year over year.
Speaker #3: Payments revenue grew 6% year over year as we continue to invest in product and go-to-market motions to grow our total payments volume.
Speaker #3: The most exciting development of the quarter was the strategic acquisition of Zyrtec , a best in class AI platform company , highly focused on the field service management industry , which will serve as the center of our AI acceleration efforts .
Speaker #3: Finally , on October 31st , we closed the sale of our marketing technology solutions to ignite visibility as we continue to execute Ever transformation optimization program .
Speaker #3: We believe narrowing our focus to provide best in class A powered vertical software is the most effective path to maximize long term growth margin accretion and ultimately , shareholder value .
Speaker #3: The completion of this transaction allows us to focus our energy and resources on our core SaaS and payments business . EverCommerce Inc. provides SaaS solutions for the service SMB economy .
Speaker #3: We offer tremendous value to our customers by providing system of actions necessary to run their business with tailored , unique workflows . We provide end to end solutions to more than 725,000 customers across our three major verticals ever Pro for home field services , Ever Health for Physician Practices , and Ever Well for wellness service providers .
Speaker #3: With the two former verticals representing approximately 95% of consolidated revenue, our large base of customers represents an immense embedded opportunity to provide value-added features and services, like payments and customer rebates, to purchasing programs.
Speaker #3: Our pro forma basis for the last 12 months we generated $585.1 million in revenue , representing 7.6% year over year growth . We also generated 31% of adjusted EBITDA margin on an LTM basis .
Speaker #3: Finally , our annualized total payments volume , or TPV , expanded to approximately $13 billion . As I've highlighted in the past . Accelerating payments , adoption and utilization continues to be one of our highest priorities in 2025 .
Speaker #3: We have continued to make specific investments in our product capabilities and go to market motions to prioritize payments enablement , activation , and utilization .
Speaker #3: Our results of third quarter show continued progress against this goal , with strong growth in both both payment enablement and utilization . At the end of the third quarter , 276,000 customers were enabled for more than one solution , reflecting a 33% year over year growth .
Speaker #3: At the end of the third quarter , approximately 116,000 customers were actively utilizing more than one solution , reflecting a 32% year over year growth .
Speaker #3: Enabling customers for more than one is a first step in the funnel that leads to increased revenue retention and ultimately , profitability . This customers we continue to focus majority of our efforts on the front foot attach or the enablement of payments at the point of initial sale .
Speaker #3: We also focus on our back book cross-sell motions. We are expanding our customer success capabilities to boost activation, retention, and wallet share, and we streamlined and improved our onboarding workflows.
Speaker #3: In the third quarter , our front book attachments and our two flagship system solution of actions with Ever Pro and ever health verticals for both greater than 60% , which represents significant year over year improvements .
Speaker #3: Looking back over the trailing 12 months , our annualized net revenue retention , or Gnrh-r , was 97% . Customers that purchased and utilized more than one solution are naturally some of our most profitable and stickiest customers .
Speaker #3: With an RR of greater than 100% year over year , our payments revenue grew 6% and accounted for approximately 21% of overall revenue .
Speaker #3: As a reminder , we report our payments revenue on a net basis and therefore it incrementally contributes approximately 95% gross margin . As such , payments revenue growth is meaningful contributor to our overall adjusted EBITDA margin expansion .
Speaker #3: As I mentioned in my introductory comments , third quarter estimated estimated annualized total payments volume , or TPV , was approximately $13 billion , representing a nearly 5.2% year over year growth .
Speaker #3: Within this , we continue to see higher TPV growth in our top solutions , offset by lower growth in legacy payment products . And third party partners .
Speaker #3: This can be a positive mix shift over time as our top solution often have higher take rates . In September , we announced the acquisition of Zyrtec , an AI powered customer engagement solution that combines virtual assistant capabilities with an Agentic automation platform .
Speaker #3: The acquisition helps establish EverCommerce Inc. position as an AI driven innovator , beginning with the intended near-term application in our home and field service vertical .
Speaker #3: Ever Pro , we plan to extend into broader opportunities across the company . I will now turn the call over to Josh Carter , CEO of Avapro , to discuss our talk in more detail .
Speaker #3: Josh .
Speaker #4: Thanks , Eric . Zyrtec transforms how businesses operate by replacing outdated processes with intelligent , end to end AI workflows . The platform is an AI powered customer engagement solution that combines virtual assistant capabilities with agentic automation , primarily serving the home services industry and capabilities for serving our other verticals .
Speaker #4: Its AI receptionists ensures that no call lead or customer interaction is ever missed . While the Agentic AI capabilities integrate deeply with FSM platforms to automate the core of daily operations .
Speaker #4: To date, the platform has processed over 2 million chats and 2 million minutes of voice interactions through its integrations with major FSMs. The fully autonomous AI agents and a lightweight Agentic FSM system are designed for seamless integration across every pros platform.
Speaker #4: The acquisition brings AI at scale to ever commerce , with many introduction features that are both being sold to third party customers today and being fast tracked for multiple ever pro native integrations over the coming months .
Speaker #4: Some of the key features available today are the AI receptionist , AI scheduler , and AI dispatch . The AI receptionist answers inbound inquiries instantly , books jobs , answers questions and routes calls 24 over seven .
Speaker #4: Just like a front desk that never goes offline , AI scheduler allows customers to book , reschedule , or cancel appointments anytime by phone or online .
Speaker #4: The AI dispatcher automatically assigns the right technician to the right job based on skill , location , and availability . Keeping field teams efficient without human oversight .
Speaker #4: These in the additional features shown on the slide . Automate the full workflow from first contact to final payment . Improving response time .
Speaker #4: Reducing labor , and helping to drive revenue . Beyond this foundation , we are working to add more features and offerings to support our customers .
Speaker #4: Beginning in our home and field services solutions. In addition to the full integration into many EverPro systems of action, we are actively developing new Agentic capabilities that should roll out over the next 12 months.
Speaker #4: These include an AI project manager that keeps every job on track from first call to final review , updating customers in text automatically .
Speaker #4: We're working on an AI training and QA agent that listens to calls and gives real time coaching to technicians , like a built in quality manager .
Speaker #4: We plan to utilize the underpinnings of our service platform to deliver an AI business coach . And of course , we are planning to use the capabilities to better onboard customers to our payments and rebates platforms .
Speaker #4: Together , these upgrades significantly improve the customer experience by bringing AI capabilities with full end to end automation , boosting efficiency and revenue without adding headcount .
Speaker #3: Thanks , Josh . Sarah . Talk is a strategic AI investment that will help drive our long term growth while delivering greater value to our customers .
Speaker #3: The acquisition brings us a production ready AI platform , a highly skilled technical team , and a proven technology that's purpose built for the service .
Speaker #3: Based industries . Our customers , by definition , are subscale operators , plumbers with a trucker , three small physician practices and solo salon operators .
Speaker #3: To them , AI is a force multiplier , harnessing the power of AI provides them a 24 hour receptionist , a billing department , and a not so distant future .
Speaker #3: A personal coach . We plan to leverage the AI and the capabilities acquired to increase the value proposition across all aspects of our solution set .
Speaker #3: Now I'll pass it over to Ryan , who will review our financial results in more detail , as well as provide fourth quarter and updated full year 2025 guidance .
Speaker #4: Thanks , Eric . Total reported revenue in the third quarter was 147.5 million , up 5.3% from the prior year period . Subscription and transaction revenue .
Speaker #4: Our primary recurring revenue base was 142.2 million for Q3 2025 year over year . Pro forma subscription and transaction revenue growth was 4.4% .
Speaker #4: Within subscription and transaction revenue , our core SaaS revenue grew over 8% in the quarter , partially offset by macro and tariff related impacts in our more usage based revenue streams , such as rebates , which is our share of rebates through group purchasing programs within Pro adjusted gross profit in the quarter was 114 million , representing an adjusted gross profit margin of 77.3% versus 78.1% in Q3 2020 .
Speaker #4: For the third quarter, adjusted EBITDA was $46.5 million, which is a 10.3% growth year over year. Adjusted EBITDA margins of 31.5% compare to 30.1% in Q3 2020.
Speaker #4: For representing margin expansion of 140 basis points on a year over year basis , margins improved due to continued cost optimization initiatives . Mix shift to higher margin products , and overall scale economies .
Speaker #4: Now turning to adjusted operating expenses , which are reconciled in the appendix to this presentation . Overall , adjusted operating expenses improved as a percentage of revenue , both for the quarter from 48.1% to 45.8% on a year over year basis and on an LTM basis from 48.6% to 46.7% .
Speaker #4: While the timing of investments and expenses was a factor , the long term trend of continued operating expense moderation is deliberate and attributable to both growth of the business and specific actions taken as part of our transformation and optimization programs .
Speaker #4: We maintain our focus on improvement in customer satisfaction and acquisition , while also remaining highly focused on cost , discipline and functional support areas .
Speaker #4: Next, I'll turn to some key liquidity measures, which include cash flow from continuing and discontinued operations. We continue to generate significant free cash flow as we invest to grow our business.
Speaker #4: Cash flow from operations for the quarter was 32.5 million . Improving from the 27.5 million generated in Q3 2020 . For . Leverage free cash flow was 23.3 million in the quarter , and for the trailing 12 month period , we generated more than 111 million in levered free cash flow , adjusted Unlevered free cash flow was 32.3 million in the quarter , and 140.6 million for the last 12 months .
Speaker #4: As we continue to invest to accelerate growth , a portion of this investment is in our solutions . This is evident in our free cash flow metrics , which are largely flat year over year .
Speaker #4: Despite product investments , which increased our capitalized product development expenses . We ended the quarter with 107 million in cash and cash equivalents , and 155 million of undrawn capacity on our revolver , which will step down to 125 million in July 2026 .
Speaker #4: Cash declined on a sequential quarterly basis, primarily as a result of our strategic acquisition of Zyrtec during the quarter. As of September 30th, we have $528 million in debt outstanding.
Speaker #4: Our total net leverage as calculated for our credit facility was approximately 2.1 times . And continues to demonstrate our deleveraging from strong operational performance and free cash generation .
Speaker #4: We have 425 million of notional swaps at a weighted average rate of 3.91% . That effectively hedged the floating rate component of our interest costs through October 2027 .
Speaker #4: In the third quarter , we repurchased approximately 2.6 million shares for $29.1 million at an average price of $11.10 per share . Based on the shares repurchased through September 30th , 2025 , we have approximately $22.3 million remaining in our total repurchase authorization .
Speaker #4: In addition , our board recently authorized an increase in our share program to 300 million , an increase of 50 million through the end of 2026 .
Speaker #4: I would now like to finish by discussing our outlook for the fourth quarter and the full year of 2025 . As a reminder , our guidance for revenue and adjusted EBITDA for 2025 is based on our continued operations , which excludes marketing , technology , solutions .
Speaker #4: Our guidance also includes Zyrtec, but the expected contribution in the fourth quarter is immaterial. For the fourth quarter of 2025, we expect total revenue of $148 million to $152 million and adjusted EBITDA of $39.5 million to $41.5 million for the full year 2025.
Speaker #4: We are narrowing both our revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance ranges with an increase to the top end of the adjusted EBITDA range . We expect total revenue of 584 to 592 million and adjusted EBITDA of 174.5 to 179.5 million .
Speaker #4: Operator , we are now ready to take the first question .
Speaker #1: Certainly, and our first question comes from the line of Shaw from Deutsche Bank. Your question, please.
Speaker #5: Great . Thanks for taking my questions . Eric , maybe just start off with you . I just want to dig into the Zyrtec acquisition , which of seems compelling to us .
Speaker #5: Can you just maybe talk a little bit more about the business model ? Is it subscription consumption based ? And over time , what percentage of your customer base do you think this will be suitable for ?
Speaker #5: As you think about the key solutions that you might attach to.
Speaker #3: Who appreciate the question on a at a high level , you know , we're not kind of breaking out the you know , the basis of kind of subscription versus , you know , integrate into the rest of the system at this point , as we look at the actual acquisition , there's really two main things that we're really excited about .
Speaker #3: Number one , this particular product has been built fully , fully focused on the home service sector . So all of the data , all the minutes , all the calling that they have done over the last really , you know , 3 to 4 years has been fully focused basically to our customer base .
Speaker #3: So it's a turnkey product that we're allowed to integrate . Almost real time . And we'll talk about the integration in a second .
Speaker #3: Secondly , a lot of the development that they have done within the ecosystem for the Agentic AI , within that , within their core product is going to be utilized across our core system .
Speaker #3: So as we see the kind of the future of how those products come together , I think you'll start seeing in late 26 and 27 how that kind of integrates together versus a breakout of , you know , zero revenue , you know , separately on the right .
Speaker #4: I think with everything that Eric said , we plan to fully integrate , there's a book of business that comes with Zyrtec that wasn't our primary thesis , though , for the acquisition , the primary thesis was the integration that Eric just described in terms of the capabilities that it's going to bring to the SMB space , particularly in the home and field services .
Speaker #4: But I would say that over time , we plan to expand to other verticals that we have as well . And you should expect to see this kind of as bolt ons or upsell cross sell motions as we continue to build out that strategy .
Speaker #5: Got it . That's helpful . There , Ryan . Just kind of follow up for you . Just can you elaborate what played out with the rebate program ?
Speaker #5: Can you just think about the overall size of that program and kind of what's factored into guidance for that program ? As you think about for Q ?
Speaker #4: Yeah , I would say that that was probably the one space that we had any particular headwinds in , in the business in Q3 , the course business , as we described is very resilient and strong , particularly in the SMB market .
Speaker #4: Rebates as a percentage of our overall revenue base is quite small , actually . But from the quarter over quarter perspective , there was about 1.6 million of softness .
Speaker #4: And the rebates was really this group purchasing programs that we have as part of our service Nation program . Overall , it's a good business for us , but it does actually have a little more susceptibility to the macroeconomic factors and tariffs in particular , were probably one of the areas where we saw some impacts .
Speaker #4: If you saw the HVAC manufacturers that released earnings earlier , there was a number of sightings with regard to kind of softness in that space , not only for Q3 but some projection into Q4 with expected recovery in in 2026 , that is kind of where we saw some of the softness in that space as well .
Speaker #4: But overall , I would say that and , you know , it's not a significant impact to the business . We did factor that into our overall guidance and don't expect a significant continuation .
Speaker #5: Great . Thanks for taking my questions .
Speaker #1: Thank you . And our next question comes from the line of Kirk Materne from Evercore ISI . Your question please .
Speaker #6: Hi . This is Dylan for Kirk , and thanks for taking my question . I was wondering if maybe you could walk us through , I guess , some of the changes to the guidance for the remainder of the fiscal year and kind of any trends you're seeing in the macro environment that have caused you to change your guidance .
Speaker #4: Good . Yeah . I just gave a information on that . Kirk , thanks for the question . I'm trying to make sure I understood and your question from a guidance perspective .
Speaker #4: No macroeconomic impacts other than what we described on, you know, the group purchasing programs, which really is a small portion of our overall revenue base from the SMB perspective.
Speaker #4: Overall , we're continuing to see strength in the marketplace , in our core SaaS . You know , continues to have strong growth opportunities .
Speaker #4: We've seen 8% growth , really from a core SaaS perspective . And then I would say that , you know , we continue to have really strong , you know , efforts in the transformation optimization side of what we're doing , which is why we felt very comfortable to to increase our adjusted EBITDA guidance for for the full year .
Speaker #4: But we did tighten the range, both on revenue and on adjusted EBITDA. And taking into account some of those macroeconomic impacts that we talked about earlier.
Speaker #6: Okay , great . Thanks for taking my question .
Speaker #4: Thank you .
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matt Hedberg from RBC. Your question, please.
Speaker #7: Thanks for my questions , guys . Eric , I wanted to go back to the talk acquisition . I just maybe I wasn't it wasn't clear to me , but but how is the pricing for that today .
Speaker #7: And do you see it evolving once it's fully integrated to to the platform .
Speaker #3: Yeah . So just on a core basis , the product that they're in market with today sells both on a subscription and usage basis .
Speaker #3: So subscription by utilizing the product and usage every time , every minute that has been utilized on an AI receptionist , the reason the larger answer was really focused on , you know , that was a , you know , part of the thesis .
Speaker #3: But really, this is kind of a smaller part of the overall thesis for the acquisition. As Ryan talked about, we definitely brought over a customer base and a book of business.
Speaker #3: And the real focus of us is the customer base that has utilized that product today is actually just making our systems smarter and smarter .
Speaker #3: So as we integrate into the core EverCommerce Inc. solutions , which we've already done , and Josh can talk about that in a second , our ability to integrate that , the assistance to start off on the other Agentic , you know , pieces of that software is going to make all of our software's specifically FSM area just more effective and ongoing basis .
Speaker #3: So why not do that? Josh.
Speaker #4: Yeah , I think on from a pricing standpoint , we definitely view this as a SaaS model . So for the AI receptionist , we'll be selling that as a SaaS model .
Speaker #4: And then as Eric mentioned , we will be integrating various AI agents throughout our FSM systems . And that will just be reflected over time as as increases in SaaS pricing .
Speaker #4: .
Speaker #7: Got it . Okay . That's helpful . And maybe just even just more philosophically speaking , you know , one of the questions about software has been , you know , what is the future of seat based models in the future ?
Speaker #7: And I just sort of curious , you know , you've got a blend today . And obviously payments is is a big part of that base model .
Speaker #7: But do you see the future of EverCommerce Inc. pricing changing to look even more like consumption or usage? And pivoting away from seats?
Speaker #7: Or do you always expect to have some sort of a blend there?
Speaker #4: I think we would . I mean , we're going to continue with the existing pricing mechanisms that we have . We'll continue to evaluate , you know , the market space in general .
Speaker #4: I think our our space from an SMB perspective is quite unique . If we see the opportunity to do more in the variable pricing , as we think about the 2026 budget and beyond , we will we will definitely consider that .
Speaker #4: But it's not a strategic shift or focus from a change perspective in terms of how we run and operate our business .
Speaker #7: Got it . Thanks , guys .
Speaker #1: Thank you . And as a reminder , ladies and gentlemen , if you do have a question at this time , please press star one one on your telephone .
Speaker #1: Our next question comes from the line of Alex Sklar from Raymond James . Your question please .
Speaker #8: Hi . This is Jessica on for Alex . Thanks for taking my question . Just got one . So on your spending optimization efforts , how have things been progressing ?
Speaker #8: Their margins are continuing to track nicely in the right direction. But on the reduction of third-party costs, you've called out in the past how much more leverage do you see over the medium term?
Speaker #8: Thank you .
Speaker #4: Yeah , we continue to find , you know , good success in our transformation optimization program . I would say that we've been able to reduce operating costs pretty substantially over $10 million in 2025 .
Speaker #4: We continue to have a really solid tracking mechanism against those efforts . I think you're going to see us to continue the transformation optimization program that we have in place is not a one and done .
Speaker #4: It is something that we are kind of continuing to embed in the operating model that we have. Overall, we're at over 30% adjusted EBITDA margins at this point in time.
Speaker #4: That's grown since the days of our IPO in the the low 20% adjusted EBITDA margin . So over 1,000% . And we continue to see opportunity for us to expand on the overall margin expansion through the programs that we have , both for transformation and for optimization .
Speaker #4: The management teams are stood up at this point in time , both for ever Pro and Ever health , and we feel like that is putting us in a solid position to continue to to to exit 2025 and grow in 26 , but not just from a revenue perspective .
Speaker #4: And we'll continue to look for margin expansion as we move into the future . I would say that the only thing that I would moderate on that is that as we continue to look at investment opportunities , we'll we'll continue to focus to make sure that the products that we're offering , to our customers have the right features and functionality .
Speaker #4: So we're going to continue to grow and invest in those . And you can see that from a cash flow perspective in terms of the investment that we made in capitalized software year over year , I think we invested on an LTM basis about 25 million , compared to about 18 million in the prior year , which just continues to demonstrate our continued focus on developing products for our customers .
Speaker #8: Got it. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you . And this does conclude the question and answer session of today's program . I'd like to hand the program back to Eric Remer CEO for any further remarks .
Speaker #3: Thanks . Well , thank you again for joining the call today . We have incredible momentum in our core SaaS and payment solutions , combined with meaningful margin expansion as we continue to optimize our cost base .
Speaker #3: On top of this , there is tremendous excitement surrounding our AI roadmap that we believe will differentiate our solutions in the marketplace . I'd like to thank our investors for their continued support and all of our Commerce employees for their hard work .
Speaker #3: Operator: This concludes our call.
Speaker #1: Thank you . And thank you , ladies and gentlemen , for your participation in today's conference . This does conclude the program . You may now disconnect .