Q3 2025 American Tower Corp Earnings Call

Speaker #2: Ladies and gentlemen , thank you for standing by . Welcome to the American Tower . Third quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call . As a reminder , today's conference call is being recorded .

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Speaker #2: One again . I would now like to turn the call over to your host , Spencer Kern , Senior Vice President of Investor Relations .

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Speaker #3: Thank you , and good morning . Welcome to our third quarter earnings call . I'm Spencer Kern , head of investor relations for American Tower .

Speaker #3: Joining me on the call today are Steven Vondran , our president and chief executive officer . And Rod Smith , our executive vice president , chief Financial Officer and treasurer .

Speaker #3: Following our prepared remarks , we will open the call for your questions . Before we begin , I need to call your attention to our safe harbor statement .

Speaker #3: It says that some of our comments today may be forward looking . As such , they are subject to risks and uncertainties described in American Tower SEC filings and results may differ materially .

Speaker #3: Additional information , as well as our earnings , materials , are available on our Investor Relations website . With that , I'll turn the call over to Steve .

Speaker #3: Steve .

Speaker #4: Thanks , Spencer . Good morning , everyone , and thanks for joining the call . As you can see from our published results , we completed a great quarter that delivered double digit growth in attributable AFFO per share as adjusted leasing activity remained robust across our tower and data center businesses .

Speaker #4: It was complimented by near record services revenue . These top line trends , combined with focused execution of our strategic initiatives , have enabled us to increase our guidance for the year across all of our key consolidated metrics .

Speaker #4: As the midpoint of our revised guidance . We now expect to deliver attributable AFFO per share as adjusted growth of approximately 7% , net of FX headwinds and financing costs .

Speaker #4: Our outlook implies attributable AFFO per share as adjusted growth of approximately 9% , which reflects the fundamental strength of our core operating model .

Speaker #4: Before turning the call over to Rod to review our detailed financial results and updated outlook, I'd like to spend a few minutes discussing the industry backdrop and what it means for American Tower.

Speaker #4: The past few months have been an interesting and active time in our industry , with spectra moving between key players and signals of a more consolidated US carrier market .

Speaker #4: During my 25 years at American Tower , I've navigated many instances of care consolidation and spectrum deals , and our experienced team has a strong track record of delivering market leading solutions that meet the needs of our customers .

Speaker #4: While enhancing our strategic positioning . Although each transaction has been unique , there has been one consistent trend . The tower industry benefits when its customers become healthier , financially strong customers tend to invest more heavily in their networks to keep pace with demand for mobile data consumption , which in turn drives greater demand for our best in class tower portfolio .

Speaker #4: Demand for mobile data , the backbone of our business model , continues to rise in a torrent pace in the US , the most recent CTI survey showed that mobile data consumption in 2024 increased approximately 35% year over year for the third straight year , driven by growth in mobile customers .

Speaker #4: 5G enabled devices , usage per device and fixed wireless access . To put this into perspective , at this pace , mobile data consumption would continue to double every 2 to 3 years .

Speaker #4: Experts believe that the rapid growth in mobile data consumption will require a doubling in overall network capacity over the next five years , which in turn will require a significant increase in cell sites that benefit our tower business .

Speaker #4: We therefore remain quite optimistic about the opportunities that this industry landscape presents , even before considering likely tailwinds from AI driven mobile data demand .

Speaker #4: We're also paying close attention to developments within satellite based networks . We have a firsthand view through our board representation at AST , Space Mobile and regularly evaluate satellite capabilities with engineers and technology consultants .

Speaker #4: Our assessments are deeply rooted in data and firmly endorse the view that satellite-based networks will remain complementary to terrestrial towers due to the capacity and economic constraints inherent to the satellite model.

Speaker #4: And these challenges are only magnified with considering the evolving nature of wireless communication technology , as growth in mobile data consumption compounds in the US .

Speaker #4: This demand continues to drive robust levels of leasing activity . Application volumes in the third quarter remained elevated and heavily weighted towards amendments , though with a growing share of co-locations on average , approximately 75% of our towers have been upgraded with 5G equipment , so there's still considerable runway for growth as carriers complete their 5G coverage .

Speaker #4: Rollouts and shift their attention to network quality . With densification activity . We also see positive trends across our other tower portfolios or data consumption has grown at a CAGR of roughly 20 to 25% since 2020 .

Speaker #4: 5G mid-band coverage is still progressing and stands at an average of roughly 50% . In Europe , 20% in Latin America , and 10% in Africa , with emerging markets lagging developed markets in cell sites per capita .

Speaker #4: Our international customers , especially in our emerging markets , continue to invest in 4G and newer 5G networks , and we're well positioned to capture future upside as our less mature markets lease up over time .

Speaker #4: Strong industry tailwinds also continue to propel our data center business . This quarter . Coresite signed Record Retail New leasing revenue and experienced healthy growth in our larger deployments as well , driven by strong demand for hybrid cloud and multi-cloud deployments and positive pricing actions amidst tight supply dynamics .

Speaker #4: We're also seeing significant new demand from early-stage AI-related workloads like inferencing, machine learning models, and GPU as a service from Neo Clouds.

Speaker #4: It's becoming increasingly important for AI workloads to be co-located with hybrid installations . Our Coresite facilities are perfectly suited for this , as they have a rich ecosystem of network and cloud interconnection , coupled with purpose built capacity designed to support AI and other high density deployments with features like liquid cooling .

Speaker #4: All of these positive trends in demand and pricing reinforce our expectation for Coresite to achieve mid-teens or higher stabilized yields , and to achieve these targets faster and with better visibility .

Speaker #4: As pre-leasing and sales pipelines accumulate . I'm confident that American Tower is well positioned to benefit from these demand . Drivers across our tower and data center businesses .

Speaker #4: Our portfolio of assets is unmatched in quality , scale and operational excellence , and we focused our company around four strategic priorities to optimize long term value creation , maximize organic growth , expand margins , allocate capital with discipline , and position our balance sheet as an asset .

Speaker #4: We maximize organic growth as the best operator of towers and distributed real estate in the world . Our contractual and asset management expertise continues to deliver industry leading organic growth while passing along superior service , operational benefits and efficiencies to our customers .

Speaker #4: We expand margins by leveraging our global scale and world class teams to drive cost efficiency . We've generated approximately 300 basis points of adjusted EBITDA margin , expansion since 2020 , and we see room for continued expansion as we streamline operations .

Speaker #4: We look forward to communicating more details on future efficiency initiatives as part of our 2026 outlook presentation . During our fourth quarter call .

Speaker #4: Our capital allocation philosophy optimizes long term shareholder value creation . After funding our dividend , we evaluate internal uses of CapEx in organic opportunities , debt repayments , and share buybacks against each other to drive the highest possible risk adjusted returns for our business .

Speaker #4: This approach is recently prioritized . Develop tower markets and Coresite to improve the quality of our earnings and durability of growth . And as you saw in our results this morning , it informed our decision to repurchase $28 million of shares since quarter end .

Speaker #4: And our balance sheet with an investment grade credit rating and leverage now below five times , which is the lowest among our tower fears , provides the cost of capital advantage and superior financial flexibility to pursue our growth objectives .

Speaker #4: Taken together , our strategic priorities are designed to deliver our goal of industry leading AFFO per share growth . Since assuming the CEO role last year , I'm increasingly impressed by my team's ability to execute these priorities and deliver value for all of our stakeholders .

Speaker #4: I'd like to thank our incredible employees for delivering yet another impressive quarter . I'm confident that our team will continue to expertly manage our best in class assets and provide unmatched service for our customers in the future .

Speaker #4: With that , I'll hand the call over to rod to discuss our third quarter financial results and updated 2025 outlook . Rod .

Speaker #5: Thanks , Steve , and thank you all for joining the call . As you saw in this morning's press release , we delivered another strong quarter and raised our full year outlook .

Speaker #5: Before diving into our third quarter results and our revised full year outlook , I'll share a few highlights . First , total revenue grew nearly 8% year over year , driven by steady consolidated organic growth in the mid-single digits .

Speaker #5: Another strong quarter of US services contribution and double digit growth from Coresite . Second , adjusted EBITDA also grew nearly 8% year over year as strong revenue growth was complemented by 20 basis points of cash margin expansion .

Speaker #5: Third attributable AFFO per share , as adjusted , grew approximately 10% year over year . As strong adjusted EBITDA growth was enhanced by disciplined management of below the line costs .

Speaker #5: Finally , we are raising our full year outlook across property revenue , adjusted EBITDA attributable AFFO and AFFO per share . The outlook raise is supported primarily by FX tailwinds , US services outperformance and net interest benefits as compared to prior outlook .

Speaker #5: Our expectations for organic growth and Coresite revenue growth remain in line with our prior outlook . Now , let's dive into our results .

Speaker #5: Turning to third quarter property revenue and organic tenant billings growth on slide five . Consolidated property revenue grew nearly 6% year over year .

Speaker #5: US and Canada property revenue was flat year over year and grew approximately 5% when excluding non-cash straight line revenue and sprint churn . International property revenue grew approximately 12% year over year , and nearly 8% when excluding non-cash straight line revenue and FX impacts .

Speaker #5: Finally , data center property revenue grew over 14% , driven by a record quarter of retail new leasing and consistent pricing growth . Moving to the right side of the slide , we delivered consolidated organic tenant billings growth of 5% in line with expectations driven by solid demand across our global portfolio .

Speaker #5: Our US and Canada segment grew approximately 4% organically and greater than 5% when excluding sprint churn . As a reminder , this was our final quarter of Sprint churn organic growth in our international segment was nearly 7% , reflecting double digit growth in Africa and APAC .

Speaker #5: Steady mid-single digit growth in Europe and low single digit growth in Latin America . As expected . Turning to slide six . Adjusted EBITDA grew nearly 8% year over year as strong revenue growth was enhanced by disciplined cost management .

Speaker #5: Moving to the right side of the slide , attributable AFFO per share as adjusted , grew approximately 10% year over year , supported by robust EBITDA growth and prudent management of below the line costs .

Speaker #5: Now let's turn to our revised full year outlook . As I mentioned , we are raising guidance across all of our key consolidated financial metrics , starting with property revenue .

Speaker #5: Outlook on slide seven . We are raising our outlook by $40 million at the midpoint , which implies approximately 3% year over year growth or approximately 5% when excluding non-cash straight line revenue and FX impacts .

Speaker #5: We are reiterating organic growth assumptions across all regions and continue to expect organic tenant billings growth of approximately 5% and data center growth of approximately 13% year over year .

Speaker #5: The increase in outlook was driven by $50 million of FX tailwinds , a $5 million increase to pass through revenue , and $5 million of incremental non run rate revenue in the US .

Speaker #5: This was partially offset by $20 million of revenue reserves in Latin America, primarily related to our previously disclosed legal dispute with AT&T Mexico over the calculation of tower rent.

Speaker #5: As we disclosed in September , we reached a positive interim agreement with AT&T Mexico whereby AT&T Mexico has paid American Tower the majority of withheld payments and will resume monthly payments of the majority of tower rents owed going forward .

Speaker #5: The remainder of the rent's not paid to American Tower . Are to be deposited into an irrevocable escrow account administered by an independent trustee .

Speaker #5: The funds in escrow will be released in accordance with the final ruling of the arbitration, or by mutual consent of the company and AT&T Mexico.

Speaker #5: We remain confident in the terms of our master lease agreement with AT&T Mexico and expect to prevail in the arbitration , per our Conservative reserve policies , our 2025 outlook assumes approximately $30 million of revenue reserves for the full year , of which $19 million are already reflected in our results through the third quarter .

Speaker #5: We expect future reserves of approximately 8 to $10 million per quarter until the arbitration is settled . The arbitration is scheduled for a hearing in August of 2026 , and the final ruling may come at a later date .

Speaker #5: Moving to adjusted EBITDA on slide eight . We are raising our adjusted EBITDA outlook by $45 million at the midpoint , which implies approximately 4% growth year over year or approximately 7% growth year over year , excluding non-cash net straight line and FX impacts .

Speaker #5: The increase to outlook was driven by $30 million of FX tailwinds and $15 million of upside from consolidated operating profit , primarily driven by US services .

Speaker #5: Outperformance . And finally moving to our outlook for AFFO on slide nine , we are raising our attributable AFFO outlook by $50 million , which now implies growth at the midpoint of approximately 7% year over year on an as adjusted basis or approximately 9% excluding financing costs and FX impacts .

Speaker #5: The increase to outlook was driven by $20 million of FX tailwinds, $15 million of cash adjusted EBITDA, and $15 million of upside from other items, consisting of $15 million of upside from net interest expense and $5 million of upside from cash taxes and minority interest, partly offset by $5 million of higher capital improvement.

Speaker #5: CapEx . Turning to slide ten . Our 2025 capital plan remains consistent with our prior outlook . We continue to expect to distribute approximately $3.2 billion to our shareholders as a common dividend in 2025 , subject to board approval , and expect $1.7 billion in capital expenditures , $1.5 billion of our capital expenditures are related to discretionary projects of building approximately 2150 new towers at the midpoint , and $600 million of data center spend .

Speaker #5: Importantly , we expect 80% of our discretionary projects this year to be in developed markets consistent with our capital allocation philosophy that Steve reiterated earlier .

Speaker #5: Moving to the right side of the slide , our balance sheet remains strong with our net leverage now at 4.9 times $10.7 billion in liquidity and low floating rate debt exposure .

Speaker #5: We have significant financial flexibility will remain disciplined in how we utilize our balance sheet and allocate capital to optimize long term shareholder value creation .

Speaker #5: Subsequent to quarter end , we have executed $28 million of share repurchases , and we will continue to be opportunistic in utilizing the remaining $2 billion that the board has authorized for share repurchases .

Speaker #5: Turning to slide 11 . And in summary , we are pleased with our results year to date , which demonstrate the fundamental durability of our business model .

Speaker #5: Robust mobile data consumption , growth and demand for our interconnection rich data centers underpin a long runway of growth opportunities for American Tower with our best in class portfolio of towers and data centers and strong balance sheet .

Speaker #5: We are well positioned to capture these growth opportunities and deliver on our goal of industry leading AFFO per share growth . And with that , operator , we can open the line for questions .

Speaker #2: Thank you . As a reminder to ask a question , you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced .

Speaker #2: To withdraw your question , please press star one . One again . We will take our first question . Your first question comes from the line of Michael Funk from Bank of America .

Speaker #2: Please go ahead . Your line is open .

Speaker #6: Good morning and thank you for the question . So , Steve , quick one for you . So services revenue continues to come in above expectations .

Speaker #6: You know are in the street typically that was a leading indicator for domestic deployments . So I love to hear your thoughts on how the factors into deployments in 2026 .

Speaker #6: And then maybe to feather in another one. Any thoughts? You can also offer on how the AT&T EchoStar spectrum acquisition might impact deployments, maybe T&E, and your expectations with that company?

Speaker #6: Sure .

Speaker #7: Thanks for the question . So I'll start with the on the services piece . We've had a healthy pipeline of activity this year in services , and it has a near record year .

Speaker #7: You have to go back to when we actually owned construction management firms back in the early 2000s to find a better service of the year for us.

Speaker #7: So we're very excited about the activity levels that we've seen . We also have a larger construction management component this year than we've had in prior years .

Speaker #7: So that's a little bit of what's kind of feathering into that . But that's indicative of the the carrier activity that we're seeing .

Speaker #7: And as we've said from the beginning of the year , we're seeing robust activity across the board . And that's continued build out of the 5G mid-band spectrum throughout the networks .

Speaker #7: And also some early phase intensification that we're seeing as well . So so we're excited about the activity levels that we're seeing there .

Speaker #7: We'll refrain from guiding to 2026 until February on that . But we do see a healthy pipeline building , and we do think that our services business will be a good , robust contributor in 2026 as well .

Speaker #7: So we're feeling very good about what we're seeing and hearing in terms of how that pipeline is building next year . In terms of the spectrum sale , you know , again , we'll we'll learn more about that and share more about that .

Speaker #7: In February . In terms of 2026 . What we've typically seen with the carriers is that when they buy spectrum , they want to deploy it and there is certainly a lot of opportunity to continue to to deploy mid-band 5G on our sites .

Speaker #7: And so we're looking forward to working with AT&T and helping them and what they decide to do next year . But until they've announced their build plans , it's probably not appropriate for me to comment in terms of what we think they're going to do on that .

Speaker #6: Great . Thank you for the question .

Speaker #2: Thank you . We will take our next question and your next question comes from the line of Nick Daddio from MoffettNathanson . Please go ahead .

Speaker #2: Your line is open .

Speaker #8: Hi . Good morning . Thanks for taking my questions . You know , first on the spectrum front , the FCC now has marching orders to auction a lot of spectrum over the coming years , some of it at potentially much higher frequencies than the mainstream spectrum that we've seen deployed to date .

Speaker #8: You know , I think potentially as high up as ten gigahertz . Obviously , it's going to depend on what bands are ultimately selected .

Speaker #8: But , broadly speaking , how are you thinking about the relevance of your tower portfolio for potentially supporting some of these much higher frequency bands , given their propagation attributes ?

Speaker #7: Yeah , thanks for the question . Look , I'm excited to hear that those bands are coming to market because towers are going to be the primary way those bands are deployed , even up into that seven , eight , nine , ten gigahertz .

Speaker #7: And that really underpins the beauty of the tower model and the long term growth that we're going to see on the portfolio . And so when I see what's kind of been identified by the government , some of that there's a little bit more mid-band to support 5G .

Speaker #7: But a lot of those spectrum bands that you just referenced are the bands that need to be freed up . And allocated for the US to be competitive in the market .

Speaker #7: So, we're excited to see that that's been identified, that they're working on making that available, and we're looking forward to seeing how that plays out.

Speaker #7: You know , as we've seen in the past , the higher the frequency , the lower the wavelength , which means you will need some densification of sites .

Speaker #7: So as we look out across the landscape of the remaining tranche of 5G and also six G , you know , we think that that bodes very well for long term growth for us because carriers are going to their networks .

Speaker #7: It will give them more bandwidth . You'll see new use cases coming out . And there's some really exciting things coming out in kind of the early discussions about six G and what it supports .

Speaker #7: So so we're very supportive of those bands coming to market being auctioned . And we're looking forward to working with our customers to get those deployed as soon as they can .

Speaker #8: Okay , great . Can I ask one on Coresite as well ? You know , I saw your Pre-lease share is down , was down to 6% this quarter .

Speaker #8: I think historically that's been driven by , you know , sort of larger customers taking big slugs of space . I guess . Should we think about the 6% ?

Speaker #8: Is , again , just the product of the ebb and flow of larger deals , or are you kind of purposefully saving the space that you're developing for for more of a retail SKU ?

Speaker #7: I no , there's no slowdown in the deal flow . We are still seeing incredibly robust demand . What you're seeing in that dip on Pre-leasing is us putting some stuff that was in construction into service .

Speaker #7: So you're really just seeing that move from Pre-leasing to actual leasing , and then that Pre-leasing . You know , new projects to build new sites .

Speaker #7: So that's just a function of the flow of the construction , not of deal flow at all .

Speaker #8: Okay , okay . So no , no underlying changes there . Good to hear . All right . Thank you Steve .

Speaker #7: Yeah . We're still still seeing huge demand drivers in Coresite .

Speaker #8: Yeah . Yes . You know demand across the space is strong . I was wondering if it was a , you know more of a purposeful shift on your part to , you know , hold space for , for retail where you don't see as much pre-leasing , but it doesn't sound like that .

Speaker #8: That's the case .

Speaker #7: Nope . Nope . Still still sticking to our knitting in terms of how we do business .

Speaker #8: Okay , terrific . Thank you . Steve .

Speaker #2: Thank you. We will take our next question. The next question comes from the line of Jim Schneider from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Speaker #2: Your line is open .

Speaker #9: Good morning . Thanks for taking my question . I was wondering if you could maybe , you know , understanding that the cost optimization program , you can give us more details when you report Q4 results , but can you maybe give us a sense of how you would frame the opportunity in terms of rough order of magnitude , directionally , how that when you do announce it should flow through the model , would that be sort of a one time thing or something that would layer in over the course of several quarters and then maybe directionally , what are the considerations you're thinking about in terms of the sizing that opportunity ?

Speaker #9: Are you trying to sort of get a sense about what is happening with the current activity on your potential customers , or is there any other considerations that are kind of top of mind as you scope that out ?

Speaker #9: Thank you .

Speaker #5: Hey , Jim , good morning . Thanks for the question . So I'll start out by highlighting the fact that cost efficiencies is one of our strategic priorities .

Speaker #5: You've heard Steve and .

Speaker #10: I talk about that over the the quarters and in the years as well . So it's something we've been focused on for a while here .

Speaker #10: I would point to a couple of things that have resulted from the work that we've done over the years. If you go back to 2020, since that time period, we've been able to expand our EBITDA margins by about 300 basis points.

Speaker #10: That comes from solid , steady , organic growth . It includes absorbing the sprint churn , but it's complemented in a material way by the cost efficiencies that we've driven into the business over that time period .

Speaker #10: You've seen a couple of years where G&A actually stepped down multiple years in a row . This year , it's about flat . So we're holding things very steady after reducing G&A quite a bit over time .

Speaker #10: So we've we've got a very efficient business globally as it stands today with with strong margins . And as I pointed out , expanding margins .

Speaker #10: So we do see the future opportunities as incremental improvements to an already efficient business , not necessarily a step function change . With that , said , Steve has talked about and we did hire create a new role of chief operating officer .

Speaker #10: That is a global role . But Noel fills that role and it's focused on simplifying our operations across all areas and areas like supply chain , technology , service delivery , network operations and the goal there really is to improve service quality across the board by making things simpler and bending the cost curve down over time , particularly in the direct cost area .

Speaker #10: That should help us continue to maintain strong margins out into the future in a way to compliment steady , organic tenant billings growth .

Speaker #10: With that said , we do look forward to our next earnings call when we finish up 2025 . Talk about the fourth quarter results and get into the 26 outlook .

Speaker #10: At that point , we will have a little bit more detail around cost efficiencies and improvements that may come from the CEO position .

Speaker #9: That's helpful . Thank you . And then maybe as a follow up , your data center business , I think you're guiding effectively to the midpoint of your prior guidance .

Speaker #9: In a lot of your peers have sort of taken up their guidance . And obviously , the data points , as you pointed out , in terms of new business , are very , very positive across the whole ecosystem .

Speaker #9: So, can you maybe give us a sense about whether there's anything happening under the hood that would sort of, you know, mute the upside you're seeing, at least in the current business for the next couple of months into the end of the year?

Speaker #9: Thank you .

Speaker #7: Yeah , I'll take that one . No , there's there's nothing that would mute our expectations for the business . We continue to believe that sustained double digit growth is possible as long as we can keep building the capacity to absorb the demand that we're seeing out there .

Speaker #7: And we continue to see increased demand for the the space and coresite , you know , from our core customer , which is the the enterprises that need to be co-located in that facility for hybrid cloud deployments .

Speaker #7: And what's exciting about the way that customers are evolving is they're actually also expanding their installations to put inferencing there . So a lot of those key enterprise customers are expanding their installations to have their inference co-located with their hybrid cloud deployments .

Speaker #7: And so there's a very long tail of that activity . So I think all the trends that we're seeing in this space reinforce the fact that there's a huge growth path there for us .

Speaker #7: So there's nothing meeting that . I think we were just pretty close on our expectations for the year . And , you know , we pride ourselves on being pretty accurate on that .

Speaker #7: So, nothing to be concerned about there. In fact, we're excited about the future of Coresite.

Speaker #10: Hey Jim , I would also just compliment Steve's answer here with a couple of pieces we are seeing strong double digit growth . You see that in our in our numbers .

Speaker #10: And of course , Steve outlined that that was in line with our expectations . Certainly I'll highlight the fact that that is well above the underwriting assumptions that we made when we originally purchased Coresite .

Speaker #10: So the the business is performing exceptionally well . Driving upper , upper teens in terms of stabilized yields on assets . That's why you're seeing a little bit more CapEx going into that business .

Speaker #10: We're up to a little over $600 million of CapEx, and not only are we seeing a robust pipeline, but we're also able to be selective in terms of who we bring into these facilities. Additionally, we're seeing strong pricing ability on our end, which is driving a cash mark to market.

Speaker #10: Well, up at the end. The top end of the range that we had outlined. A couple of other things that I'll highlight here.

Speaker #10: The business is well positioned going forward. You know, we have about 296 MW of power available and held for future development. That's a nice runway.

Speaker #10: As we look out into the future, we aim to provide conditioned space to meet the demand that we foresee. Currently, we also have about 42 MW under construction.

Speaker #10: That's the highest we've seen in Coresite in quite a while here. So, we're building a lot of facilities to meet the demand that we've already taken in those couple of record years of sales and new business that we've seen over the years.

Speaker #10: We're now delivering on that . That's that's another reason why you're seeing a little bit of a touch down in terms of pre-leasing , because we're just building so much into this , into this curve .

Speaker #10: So these coresite assets , interconnection rich , network dense , they're really , well positioned for the future , not just from a demand perspective , but from a pricing perspective as well as a making sure we're in a good position to meet the demand going forward .

Speaker #9: Thank you .

Speaker #2: Thank you . We will take our next question . Your next question comes from the line of Rick Prentiss from Raymond James . And Associates .

Speaker #2: Please go ahead . Your line is open .

Speaker #11: Great . Thanks . Good morning everybody .

Speaker #10: Hey , Rick .

Speaker #11: Hey , Steve . Appreciate your comments in the beginning . Obviously , you've 25 years , you've seen a lot of spectrum deals and M&A .

Speaker #11: I wanted to just touch on one US cellular , T-Mobile deal is closed . Can you remind us again your exposure to US cellular and then also interestingly T-Mobile on their earnings call talked about a charge where they're going to be reducing some cell sites that were not US cellular .

Speaker #11: That's one of the first times I've seen kind of carriers without a deal , kind of saying we're reducing things . Do you have any extra color on what T-Mobile was talking about ?

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Speaker #7: On the second question , I don't have any color on that . Rick . In terms of the US cellular portfolio , it's pretty modest .

Speaker #7: They represent a little bit less than 1% of our US revenue , a little bit less than half a percent of our global revenue .

Speaker #7: And there is a chunk of that that that's up for renewal next year , which we've talked about previously . We haven't given a specific percentage , but there's a good chunk of that up for renewal next year .

Speaker #7: And so we'll, you know, we'll give more guidance on what we expect on that in February in terms of churn coming from that.

Speaker #7: But just given the overall exposure , we'll still be in that 1 to 2% historical range for churn . You know , we believe .

Speaker #11: , right ? Okay . And then on the dish . EchoStar AT&T deal , are you guys open to doing a negotiation with dish to kind of get an MPV value .

Speaker #11: Because we're watching that . Just trying to see how long Charlie Ergen wants to to keep making tower payments . But he has good contract .

Speaker #11: You have good contracts . It seems . So just trying to get a sense of openness to trying to say , can we resolve this sooner rather than over 11 years ?

Speaker #7: Yeah . Well , yeah , we've got a long track record of of maximizing the value to our shareholders through our contract structures and any negotiations that we do .

Speaker #7: And so you assume that we're going to retain the discipline we've always had on that. I think it'd be premature to speculate on what something might look like on that.

Speaker #7: Now , what you will see in our 10-q when we file it is you'll see that we did receive a letter from dish saying that they believe they're excused from making payments under the MLA based on the spectrum sale .

Speaker #7: We disagree with that . And in fact , we filed suit . We filed a declaratory judgment action to ask the court to confirm that we're owed the remainder of the of the rent .

Speaker #7: Under that agreement . And just to remind folks that agreement goes through 2036 and this represents about 2% of our total property revenue , about 4% of our U.S.

Speaker #7: and Canada property revenue . And so we're focused on defending our contract and making sure that everyone acknowledges that it's a valid and enforceable contract through 20 two through 2036 .

Speaker #7: And then we will have whatever discussions make sense that are going to maximize long term growth . But again , we feel good about our contract .

Speaker #7: We feel good about the collectability on it . And we will continue to do the right thing for our shareholders for the long term .

Speaker #7: On that .

Speaker #11: Makes sense . One last one for me , obviously . Nice to see stock buybacks come in kind , an endorsement of where you feel your stock price is at .

Speaker #11: Also , finally , your leverage is below 5.0000 . How should we think about the M&A environment out there for external growth ? Stock buyback and where are we at as far as private versus public multiples , which is kind of the capital allocation question between stock buyback and M&A .

Speaker #10: Yeah . Hey Rick , thanks for the question . So you hit all the relevant topics of course . And let me start out by just highlighting our capital allocation philosophy here .

Speaker #10: As you've seen years , that you've followed us . over the It's very consistent . And the disciplined approach to capital allocation , everything we do in capital allocation is really centered around optimizing long term shareholder value .

Speaker #10: With that said , the first priority in capital in capital allocation is dividends out 100% of our REIT taxable income , which this year will represent about $3.2 billion .

Speaker #10: Of course , that's subject to our board approval . Next is the internal CapEx programs . We invest roughly one and a half to $2 billion a year .

Speaker #10: Historically , in internally generated capital programs . And we focus those on the highest risk adjusted returns we can . We can put that money into at the time .

Speaker #10: And in today's environment , that is mean . We're more heavily focused and prioritizing developed markets . Us , Europe on the tower side , as well as Coresite .

Speaker #10: Of course , then it comes to evaluating M&A up against share buybacks and also just continuing to to pay down debt . All three of those are options for us today .

Speaker #10: We don't see anything compelling . That's material on the M&A side . We have been slightly over our leverage target recently for the last couple of years .

Speaker #10: As you know , Rick , we've been working diligently to strengthen the balance sheet , improve the credit quality of the business . We're now triple B plus .

Speaker #10: And in this quarter , we're below five times that . It has helped a little bit by the services contribution to EBITDA , which you can see in our numbers .

Speaker #10: The full year implies a step down in EBITDA for Q4 . That'll put a little pressure on our leverage numbers . Certainly . And depending on how the euro and the US dollar react , that could move around our US denominated total value of our European debt .

Speaker #10: With that said , it is possible that we could go back up to five times later in the year , but we are around five times or below five times in what we believe is a sustainable way .

Speaker #10: So that gives us more flexibility in share buybacks are certainly an option . You saw us buyback about 28 million shares . We put that up against M&A opportunities around the globe .

Speaker #10: We're still seeing in developed markets specifically private multiples on the M&A side for towers are still elevated relative to the multiples of public power companies .

Speaker #10: But there's more than that . That goes into our decision making . We just think we have a really compelling set of assets .

Speaker #10: We think buying back shares in this environment makes a lot of sense for us , given given our ability and confidence in this business , generating upper single digit AFFO per share growth over time before you account for the impacts of FX and interest rates .

Speaker #10: So we've got a really solid portfolio . We're improving the quality of earnings . So it's getting better along the way . So that's how we that's how we think about it .

Speaker #10: The share buybacks are completely opportunistic as we continue to deliver . We will have even more and more financial flexibility to allocate capital in that in in a way towards either M&A or share buybacks .

Speaker #10: And you kind of know what we favor at the moment .

Hey, Eric. I would just add on the, on the application volume. That's Steve mentioned. We see our overall applications up about 20% year-over-year, um, that's supporting the good news that we've had in in services, but it also reflects kind of the activity level that we're seeing in the marketplace. We're seeing a higher growth rate in the applications for colos, that's up more like 40% or so. So we are seeing the beginning of this, uh, shift or an increase in collocations, which could be the beginning of of densification. Now, with that said, our co-location application, still represent a modest percentage of our overall apps. But we are experiencing an increase in a, in a faster growth rate than the overall applications, which we think is a, is good news.

Yeah, no I appreciate that and I guess just to follow up on 1 more question. Um, I know you had 1 customer that came off their MLA earlier this year. They're on like an Alle cart type of leasing Arrangement any update on them. It sounds like things are progressing as planned. I think there was some Revenue contribution that got shifted into 2026 and is there any, um, kind of active Des?

discussions on maybe putting them back on a holistic MLA or you kind of happy with the current Arrangement, you have with them,

Um, we've always been agnostic as to, whether we're under a comprehensive MLA or not because the the underlying business that they need to do with us. Uh, doesn't change whether they're on a comprehensive agreement or not and we've proven over a couple of decades now that we're successfully able to monetize those. Deployments whether they're whether in a holistic structure or in an alloc card structure, um, you can assume that we're always talking to every customer all the time, I mean, the ink doesn't even dry on a contract before you're talking about the next iteration of it. So those are always ongoing discussions but there's really nothing to report on that. You know we're we're there to support their role out and um you know the only real difference for us is it makes a little bit of a timing difference sometimes under the conference of agreements. It's it's

It's kind of more fixed and more predictable, and it's a little bit more variable on an a la carte basis. But if you're thinking about the mediums in the long term, we're going to get that revenue either way.

It may come in a little bit more fits and starts versus that, kind of cadence that we can lay out in the contract.

Great. Thank you.

Thank you.

We will take our next question. Your next question comes from the line of David Marden from New Street research. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Hey guys, thank you so much for taking the question. It's great to be back. Um,

um, good to see you guys. Um, so I guess 2, if I could. So the first 1 for you Rod would be just to follow up on Rick's question, which is to just make sure that dish is current and under what circumstances would you guys contemplate beginning to take a reserve,

I don't know how to phrase this question, but you know what are the tower implications potentially for a space-based player?

That now, owns terrestrial Spectrum to see some new deployments that we weren't contemplating in our multi-year, model in the past. Thank you.

Um, I'll actually take those just because I'm uh, we're already talking about dish. Uh, so at this point, this is current and so we, we wouldn't take any reserves because they're current today and, uh, we expect them to pay. And that's, that's the reason we kind of preemptively filed. The lawsuit is to make sure that there's no interruption in that. So it's pretty much at this point to even talk about or think about reserves on that. Uh, when you think about the, uh, space-based player,

Um, it really depends on how it depends on how.

They're if they're just complimentary to the other carriers and they're they're reselling to the other Wireless carriers that they probably won't deploy a lot on the ground themselves. Now there may be some teleports or there's a few things that are ground based and support those networks, but that wouldn't be of any scale to be material in terms of the opportunity. If they decide to offer a direct service, then they might well decide to complement their, their sound like networking terrestrial sites. Because the satellites don't penetrate buildings, well, they don't work in dense Urban

Narratives. So, that certainly could be an upside, that none of us have even contemplated. But at this point, we're not forecasting, any of that. We're not putting that in any of our of our guidance going forward. Uh so you know our, our long-term algorithm that we've laid out for you guys. Uh does not contemplate that extra carrier in there, that would be all upside for what we've laid out.

And I appreciate that.

I'll just welcome you back. It's great to have you back on the call.

Thanks Rob.

Oh, well, thank you for that. And if I, I'll use that as an opening to ask 1, follow-up, uh, appreciate it guys. Um so you know, just as we think about um, SpaceX deployments the growth of 6 for us access with growing Spectrum. Availability, the bead funding, kind of pushing fiber out, you know, the Wisp uh, marketplaces is under threat. Um, I know that they can in real markets. Be a customer. Is there any reason to believe that kind of the the threat to the Wisp Market? Um is is a is a is a threat to churn because we look forward in the in the business model

Uh, look, we we have a lot of great customers that are wisps and that's been a component of our, our vertical markets segments for a long time. So they do comprise a very small percentage of our overall Revenue, uh, some of those Whispers have struggled for a long time. So we do see churn every year in that and that's kind of taking care of in our normal term that

That 1 to 2% that we see as normal churn. Uh, so, you know, it wouldn't surprise me for some of those guys to have some trouble. Again, consistent with what we've seen in the past. But I don't see anything in there that would make me think we're going to fall outside that normal range of churn 1 to 2%.

Perfect. I, that's what I thought. Thank you guys. Appreciate the comments.

Thank you. We will take our next question, and the question comes from the line of Michael Rollins from City. Please go ahead; your line is open.

Okay, thanks and good morning. Um, yeah, just giving the comments and Echo. Charges had a couple of other follow-ups. Um, you know, the first 1 is you mentioned, it's about 4% of domestic Revenue currently, um, how much is Echo, star anticipated to contribute to growth over the next couple of years, based on the contractual minimums that you've established

And then secondly um and you referenced um, I think the long-term guidance um just a few moments ago. Um do you still believe American Tower is on track for its long term. Domestic leasing growth guidance. And if you pull out Echo star from that, can you share what the organic growth looks like X Echo star. Thanks.

Um, so in, in terms of uh, the the contributions for the, the future years, we haven't been specific about that. And and that's not something I want to get into the, the specifics of again, we'll issue guidance for for next year, in February on it. Uh, when you think about our long-term us organic growth guide that we put back back in 2021, uh, you know, we, uh, we're seeing a robust pipeline of activity from the 3 major carriers and we're feeling very good about that activity levels that we're seeing there.

Uh US Cellular and we didn't expect uh, dish to Salt spectrum and kind of exit the the network market. And we'll be factoring those in to our guidance that we uh that we think about next year. Uh, but in terms of how that affects 26 and 27, I don't want to get specific about that until we actually issue, guidance in February on that.

But again, the long-term growth perspectives, the medium to long-term view of our business. Our us business, contributing mid single digits that doesn't change uh with the changes in Dish. Uh and we'll get more specific about those last 2 years of that multi-year guide in February.

And if I just follow up to that with 1 other. So, you know, when I think about when you gave that multi-year guide, several years ago, um, there's significant change going on in the industry. And so you, you know, you kind of gave us this, um, you know, Northstar, if you would have where you think growth is going over an extended period of time, do you think that conditions and, you know, have, you know, changed enough and and the, the timing is there where maybe not just getting a view for the next couple years, but maybe giving new multi-year guidance, when you come out, uh, you know, with the fourth quarter results. So kind of giving us some more extended View and updated view of where that's going.

Um, look, we'll we'll figure out what we're going to say in February on that. My

What I would say is we've given you guys a long-term growth algorithm that we think is, is kind of directionally what you should be thinking about for the longer term with our business and you know, nothing in the recent events, really changes. At long-term growth algorithm, what drives growth of the tower rent, and the equipment on the towers is a growth of mobile data consumption. So as long as we continue to see mobile data growth in the US and abroad at the types of clips that we're seeing, then we believe that the the need to augment networks is going to continue to roll out. Just the way we've foreseen it that supports that algorithm

Now it's possible that you're going to see even more data growth than that, because all the assumptions that are out there and the historical growth, we've seen doesn't include much AI. So as AI becomes a larger component of, you know, our daily lives and that makes its way onto the mobile devices, it's possible that growth is going to be even higher. But in terms of our kind of long-term growth algorithm, you know, we believe that somewhere in the mid single digits is where you should see the organic growth in the developed markets, a little bit higher in the emerging markets and that's probably a specific as we're going to get from a long term guide on that, and again, we'll we'll give you guys more color on the next next year in February,

Thank you.

Oh, that opportunity. If if we found the right chance to do that.

Great. Thank you.

Thank you.

We will take our final question.

And the final question comes from the line of Benjamin swinburne from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

Thanks, good morning. Um, maybe just 1, 1 more on, uh, on echostar. I know that mood there will be more info in the queue, um, Steve. But but there anything we should be thinking about in terms of what's next. It sounds like you expect them to continue to pay you. Um, but is there any, I don't know, court, date, or any other process info, you want to share with us at this point as we think about, um, the situation moving forward.

Point 2 on that. Again, we think this is very straightforward. We believe that we have a valid, enforceable contract; we don’t think that anything has changed in the marketplace that would hamper the enforceability of that through the remainder of the term. And, like I said, we just preemptively filed that because.

Uh, we just think it's the right thing to do to protect our shareholders, interest on that.

okay, thank you and then just 1 more, you know um

You guys obviously went in and bought back some stock. The stock's been under pressure. I think the multiple we're seeing Towers trade at, including AMT, is at the lower end of where it's been in a long time.

And actually, the spread between Data Center,

Stocks and Towers is widened out significantly as well. I guess it's a long uh wind up to to how you think about core sites and the value of this asset is there, do you do you look at that, you know, sort of the value of of data center Assets in the public and private markets relative to what's embedded in your stock? Seems like you're not getting credit for today. Um, is that a relevant Factor? Do you think about the right? Um, the right ownership structure for this business and uh, and are you are you seeing you know, more synergies between the 2 businesses that you've talked about that over the years and whether that's starting to come together in your, in your mind more?

Uh, yeah. I

Of course I is.

A great fit with American Tower and we still believe the long term synergies of having towers and a highly interconnected ecosystem will ultimately play out with opportunities at the edge for us. So we we believe in that future and in the meantime we have an asset that's performing phenomenally well and uh, you know, as to, you know, the components of the stock price and things like that, you know, we're in this business for the long term and we're thinking about the long-term value creation.

For the shareholders, we're not looking at a kind of a, you know, a snapshot of where that valuation Falls. And so you know, we're our focus is maximizing, the value of that asset, and continuing to work with the industry Partners to prove out the edge over time.

So when we're thinking about a stock buyback, that's really us being opportunistic and we're just looking at the value of the stock and, uh, our other available uses of our capital. And we think that's a good use of our capital and so we made the decision to buy some. And so, it really has nothing to do with coarse side or or that business. It's really all about what we think the value of the Enterprise is. And uh and of course I you know we're we're committed to Growing that thing as fast as it can grow. As long as we're sticking to our business model and our return profile. And uh, then we'll

we'll look forward to proving out the edge over time.

Hey Benjamin. I don't think I mentioned this earlier, but I would just highlight that we do have a board authorization for a buyback program up to 2 billion dollars. So we're just beginning to tap into that. Uh, so we do have capacity there already approved by the board, uh, in terms of BuyBacks

Gotcha. Thank you, both appreciate it.

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