Q3 2025 ESAB Corp Earnings Call
Operator: Thank you for standing by and welcome to the ESAB third quarter 2025 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press STAR followed by the number one on your telephone. If you would like to withdraw your question, again press STAR one. Thank you. I'd now like to turn the call over to Mark Barbalato, Vice President of Investor Relations. You may begin.
Speaker #3: Thank you for standing by and welcome to the ESAB Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise.
Speaker #3: After the speakers remarks , there will be a question and answer session . If you would like to ask a question during this time , simply press star , followed by the number one on your telephone keypad .
Speaker #3: If you would like to withdraw your question again , press star one . Thank you . I'd now like to turn the call over to Mark Barbalato Vice President of Investor Relations .
Speaker #3: You may begin .
Speaker #4: Thanks . Operator . Welcome to ESAB third quarter 2020 Earnings call . This morning , I'm joined by our president and CEO , Shyam Kambeyanda and CFO , Kevin Johnson .
Mark Barbalato: Thanks, operator. Welcome to ESAB's third quarter 2025 earnings call. This morning I'm joined by our President and CEO Shyam Kambeyanda and CFO Kevin Johnson. Please keep in mind that some of the statements we are making are forward looking and are subject to risks, including those set forth in today's SEC filings and today's earnings release. Actual results may differ and we do not assume any obligation or intend to update these forward looking statements except as required by law. With respect to any non-GAAP financial measures mentioned during the call today, the accompanying reconciliation information related to those measures can be found in our earnings press release and today's slide presentation. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our President and CEO Shyam Kambeyanda.
Speaker #4: Please keep in mind that some of the statements we are making are forward looking and are subject to risks . Including those set forth in today's SEC filings and today's earnings release .
Speaker #4: Actual results may differ , and we do not assume any obligation or intend to update these forward looking statements except as required by law .
Speaker #4: With respect to any non-GAAP financial measures mentioned during the call today . The accompanying reconciliation information related to those measures can be found in our earnings press release and today's slide presentation .
Speaker #4: With that , I'd like to turn the call over to our president and CEO , Shyam Kambeyanda .
Speaker #5: Thank you , Mark , and good morning , everyone . Esab delivered another solid quarter and returned to positive organic growth . We executed EBR with discipline in a dynamic environment , closed the acquisition of IWM earlier than anticipated , advancing our shift into equipment and furthering our compounder journey as a result , we're raising our full year guidance .
Shyam Kambeyanda: Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. ESAB delivered another solid quarter and returned to positive organic growth. We executed EBX with discipline in a dynamic environment. Closed the acquisition of EWM earlier than anticipated, advancing our shift into equipment and furthering our compounder journey. As a result, we are raising our full year guidance. Let me take a moment to thank all of our associates, as all of this would not have been accomplished without their passion and commitment to achieving our shared vision for ESAB. During the third quarter, sales rose 8% to $687 million. More importantly, organic sales increased 2% year over year, reflecting solid sequential improvement in the Americas and continued strength in EMEA and APAC driven by our high growth markets.
Speaker #5: Let me take a moment to thank all of our associates , as all of this would not have been accomplished without their passion and commitment to achieving our shared vision for Esop .
Speaker #5: During the third quarter , sales rose 8% to 687 million . More importantly , organic sales increased 2% year over year , reflecting solid sequential improvement in the Americas and continued strength in EMEA and APAC , driven by our high growth markets .
Speaker #5: Adjusted EBITDA increased 7% to 133 million , reflecting strong execution on margin . Some additional tariff impact in the Americas , as well as continued investment in sales and AI initiatives , all accelerating our mix into equipment and gas control .
Shyam Kambeyanda: Adjusted EBITDA increased 7% to $133 million, reflecting strong execution on margin, some additional tariff impact in the Americas, as well as continued investment in sales and AI initiatives, all accelerating our mix into equipment and gas control. The recently closed EWM acquisition brings high level talent, unmatched technology, and highly accretive gross margins to ESAB. Our transition team are using our proven EBX integration process and we're collaborating on growth, cross-selling opportunities, as well as margin expansion initiatives. That said, there's more work to be done on our compounder journey, but I'm pleased to say that our pipeline is rich and I'm confident in our ability to execute on our strategy and deliver long term shareholder value. Turning to slide 4, let me give you a few examples of our team living our purpose and values of shaping the world we imagine.
Speaker #5: The recently closed acquisition brings high level talent , unmatched technology and highly accretive gross margins to Esab . Our transition team are using our proven IB integration process , and we're collaborating on growth , cross-selling opportunities , as well as margin expansion initiatives .
Speaker #5: That said , there's more work to be done on our compounded journey , but I'm pleased to say that our pipeline is rich , and I'm confident in our ability to execute on our strategy and deliver long term shareholder value .
Speaker #5: Turning to slide four, let me give you a few examples of our team living our purpose and values of shaping the world.
Speaker #5: We imagine . First , let me talk about our remake . This town initiative that just launched in Chicago with doorways to Destiny , a city wide installation of 16 steel doors .
Shyam Kambeyanda: First, let me talk about our Remake this Town initiative that just launched in Chicago with Doorways to Destiny, a citywide installation of 16 steel doors. Each stands over 10 ft tall and weighs roughly 3,000 pounds and doubles as a job connector through the My Chicago and My Future apps, linking youth to apprenticeships, internships, and jobs in real time in partnership with Build Chicago and Chicago YMCA. The doors appeared at YMCAs, schools, galleries, and community centers. Welder Underground led installations and local artists transformed the doors into public art. Youth engage through welding demos, hands-on stations, collaborative art making, and resource pop ups. The mobile welding studio bus turned the streets into open air classrooms and local welders joined following an online call to action. This tour directly addresses welder shortage.
Speaker #5: Each stands over ten feet tall and weighs roughly £3,000 and doubles as a job connector through the My Chicago and My Future Apps linking youth to apprenticeships to internships and jobs in real time .
Speaker #5: In partnership with Chicago and Chicago YMCA , the doors appeared at YMCAs , schools , galleries and community centers , while the underground led installations and local artists transformed the doors into public art .
Speaker #5: Youth engaged through welding demos , hands on stations , collaborative art making and resource pop ups . The mobile welding studio bus turned the streets into open air classrooms and local welders joined following an online call to action .
Speaker #5: This tour directly addresses welder shortage . We convert curiosity into careers through paid internship pathways , industry certifications , mentorship from experienced craftsmen and craftswomen , young people meet employers , start with summer opportunities , and progress into long , well-paid careers in skilled trades .
Shyam Kambeyanda: We convert curiosity into careers through paid internship pathways, industry certifications, mentorship from experienced craftsmen and craftswomen. Young people meet employers, start with summer opportunities, and progress into long, well-paid careers in skilled trades. We're expanding the pipeline globally with partners such as Valenius Tech, Riga Tech, and Burnley College, where students learn on ESAB equipment and earn credentials that travel. ESAB is committed to building strong skills, strong wages, and strong communities. This is a fantastic initiative. I'm really proud of our teams, their creativity, and engagement. Transitioning back to our numbers and turning to Slide 5, in the Americas, total sales increased and organic growth was positive year over year with a clear sequential improvement from Q2. As expected, the U.S. delivered mid single digit growth, and equipment and automation grew mid single digits across the region.
Speaker #5: We're expanding the pipeline globally with partners such as Vilnius TEC , Riga Tech and Burnley College , where students learn on ESAB equipment and earn credentials that travel Esab is committed to building strong skills , strong wages and strong communities .
Speaker #5: This is a fantastic initiative. I'm really proud of our teams, their creativity and engagement. Transitioning back to our numbers and turning to slide five.
Speaker #5: In the Americas , total sales increased and organic growth was positive year over year with a clear sequential improvement from Q2 as expected , the US delivered mid-single digit growth and equipment and automation grew mid-single digits across the region .
Speaker #5: This momentum is notable given that Q3 is typically our seasonal trough due to summer shutdowns . Mexico remained stable and South America performed in line with expectations .
Shyam Kambeyanda: This momentum is notable given that Q3 is typically our seasonal trough due to summer shutdowns. Mexico remained stable, and South America performed in line with expectations. Moving to Slide 6 to discuss EMEA and APAC, our unparalleled global footprint continues to show its strength. EMEA and APAC delivered volume growth of 4% supported by strong execution in high growth markets and high single digit growth in equipment and automation. We're seeing renewed investment and activity in Europe, and we expect developing market GDP over the next five years to outpace developed markets by roughly 2x. ESAB is well positioned to capture that differential. Turning to Slide 7, as mentioned before, we completed the acquisition of EWM, a premier provider of advanced arc welding and robotic solutions.
Speaker #5: Moving to slide six , to discuss EMEA and APAC , our unparalleled global footprint continues to show its strength . EMEA and APAC delivered volume growth of 4% , supported by strong execution in high growth markets and high single digit growth in equipment and automation .
Speaker #5: We're seeing renewed investment and activity in Europe , and we expect developing market GDP over the next five years to outpace developed markets by roughly two x .
Speaker #5: ESAB is well positioned to capture that differential . Turning to slide seven . As mentioned before , we completed the acquisition of a premier provider of advanced arc welding and robotic solutions .
Speaker #5: IWM adds react technology that I've mentioned before , an innovation that can deliver 100% faster weld speeds and two times the deposition rates and roughly 35% lower heat input versus traditional short arc processes .
Shyam Kambeyanda: EWM adds REACT technology that I've mentioned before, an innovation that can deliver 100% faster weld speeds and 2x the deposition rate and roughly 35% lower heat input versus traditional short arc processes. Customers see higher productivity, lower fume, and improved quality. The impact is visible on the shop floor. EWM REACT is changing workflows. Combined with ESAB consumable torches and our indosuite digital overlay, we deliver an end-to-end ecosystem that is hard to match. The teams are executing our EBX playbook for integration and advancing EBX-driven margin initiatives that we expect to see positive impact from in 2026. On that positive note, let me hand it to Kevin, who'll take you through the financial details.
Speaker #5: Customers see higher productivity , lower fume , and improved quality . The impact is visible on the shop floor . IWM react is changing workflows combined with Aesop consumables , torches and our Endo suite digital overlay .
Speaker #5: We deliver an end to end ecosystem that is hard to match . The teams are executing our ebb playbook for integration and advancing EB driven margin initiatives that we expect to see positive impact from in 2026 .
Speaker #5: On that positive note, let me hand it to Kevin, who will take you through the financial details.
Speaker #6: Thanks , Charmaine . Good morning . Let's turn to slide number eight to discuss our financial performance . We are pleased to have completed the IWM acquisition ahead of schedule , which contributed approximately two points of growth and roughly $1 million in adjusted EBITDA within our Q3 results .
Mark Barbalato: Thanks Shyam and good morning. Let's turn to slide number eight to discuss our financial performance. We are pleased to have completed the EWM acquisition ahead of schedule, which contributed approximately 2 points of growth and roughly $1 million in adjusted EBITDA within our Q3 results. Our ESAB and EWM teams have begun the integration process as part of our commitment to strengthening our collective equipment and automation portfolios, enabling us to provide our customers with an unparalleled solution. Turning to our results, we experienced a return to organic growth as expected with a 2% increase in organic sales. We continue to benefit from robust market demand in our high growth markets within EMEA and APAC and delivered mid single digit growth in our U.S. business while our other regions performed as expected.
Speaker #6: Our ESAB and AUM teams have begun the integration process as part of our commitment to strengthening our collective equipment and automation portfolios , enabling us to provide our customers with an unparalleled solution .
Speaker #6: Turning to our results , we experienced a return to organic growth as expected , with a 2% increase in organic sales . We continue to benefit from robust market demand in our high growth markets within EMEA and APAC , and delivered mid-single digit growth in our US business .
Speaker #6: While our other regions performed as expected . Total sales increased by 800 basis points year over year . Supported by organic growth contributions from acquisitions including IWM and favorable currency movements .
Mark Barbalato: Total sales increased by 800 basis points year over year, supported by organic growth, contributions from acquisitions including EWM, and favorable currency movements. The adjusted EBITDA margin was reduced by about 20 basis points due to the impact of EWM, while our base business delivered expected profitability supported by EBX and our strong global execution. Turning to slide number nine to discuss our Americas segment. Organic sales in the Americas rose mainly from strong U.S. equipment and automation growth as well as price discipline. Acquisitions added 300 basis points, offsetting FX. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 19.6%, which included ongoing investment for long term growth and a drag driven by price cost dynamics related to tariffs. We have launched several EBX cost and restructuring initiatives in Q4 and expect strong margin improvement in 2026 as volumes improve.
Speaker #6: The adjusted EBITDA margin was reduced by about 20 basis points due to the impact of DWM . While our best delivered expected profitability supported by EB and our strong global execution .
Speaker #6: Turning to slide number nine to discuss our Americas segment , organic sales in the Americas rose mainly from strong US equipment and automation growth , as well as price discipline acquisitions , added 300 basis points , offsetting FX adjusted EBITDA margin was 19.6% , which included ongoing investment for long term growth and a drag driven by price cost dynamics related to tariffs .
Speaker #6: We have launched several EB cost and restructuring initiatives in Q4 and expect strong margin improvement in 2026 as volumes improve . Moving to slide number ten to discuss our performance in EMEA and APAC , sales grew 14% year over year to $395 million , driven by growth in Asia , India and the Middle East , as well as our recent acquisitions , including IWM .
Mark Barbalato: Moving to slide number ten to discuss our performance in EMEA and APAC, sales grew 14% year over year to $395 million driven by growth in Asia, India, and the Middle East as well as our recent acquisitions including EWM. Organic sales were up 3% with volume increasing 4%. Adjusted EBITDA margin expanded to 19.3%, rising 40 basis points year over year. Excluding EWM, it would have been 19.7%, an 80 basis point gain. Our global teams continued to execute strongly with optimism for further strong growth in 2026. Moving to slide number eleven to discuss our cash flow. Free cash flow conversion exceeded 100% this quarter driven by a strong team performance. We successfully expanded and extended our credit facilities early in Q4, increasing ESAB's long term financial flexibility.
Speaker #6: Organic sales were up 3% with volume increasing 4% . Adjusted EBITDA margin expanded to 19.3% , rising 40 basis points year over year .
Speaker #6: Excluding IWM , it would have been 19.7% and 80 basis point gain . Our global teams continued to execute strongly with optimism for further strong growth in 2026 , moving to slide number 11 to discuss our cash flow free cash flow conversion exceeded 100% this quarter , driven by a strong team performance .
Speaker #6: We successfully expanded and extended our credit facilities early in Q4 , increasing ESAB long term financial flexibility . We aim to use our seasonally strong Q4 cash flow to reduce net leverage to 1 to 2 times , and position esab for accelerated M&A activity in 2026 .
Mark Barbalato: We aim to use our seasonally strong Q4 cash flow to reduce net leverage to 1 to 2 times and position ESAB for accelerated M&A activity in 2026. Turning to slide number 12 to discuss our 2025 guidance. Based on our year to date performance and the successful completion of the EWM acquisition, we have raised our full year guidance. We expect total sales of $2.71 to $2.73 billion reflecting around 1% of organic growth, a modest FX improvement, and the EWM acquisition. Adjusted EBITDA is now $535 to $540 million including approximately $3 million from EWM. We will be investing in EWM over the next year to drive synergies per our white paper, and we expect a better than 10% ROIC within three years. Adjusted EPS has been tightened to between $5.20 and $5.30 reflecting improved profit offset by increased interest expense due to EWM.
Speaker #6: Turning to slide number 12 to discuss our 2025 guidance . Based on our year to date performance on the successful completion of the W.M.
Speaker #6: acquisition , we have raised our full year . We expect total sales guidance 2.71 to $2.73 billion , reflecting around one point of organic growth .
Speaker #6: A modest FX improvement and the AUM acquisition . Adjusted EBITDA is now 535 to $540 million , including approximately $3 million from AUM .
Speaker #6: We will be investing in IWM over the next year to drive synergies for our paper , and we expect a better than 10% ROIC within three years .
Speaker #6: Adjusted EPS has been tightened to between $5.20 and $5.30, reflecting improved profit, offset by increased interest expense due to IWM. Additionally, free cash flow has been changed to around 95% because of W.M.
Mark Barbalato: Additionally, free cash flow has been changed to around 95% because of EWM. ESAB continues to accelerate investments to drive both organic growth and M&A as we focus on delivering long term shareholder value. With that, let me hand back to Shyam on slide 13 to wrap up.
Speaker #6: , Esop continues to accelerate investments to drive both organic growth and M&A . As we focus on delivering long term shareholder value . With that , let me hand back to Shyam on slide 13 to wrap up .
Speaker #5: Thank you . Kevin .
Shyam Kambeyanda: Thank you, Kevin. Our path is consistent and proven. Our global footprint is an advantage. About 80% of our manufacturing is in-region for region, which reduces tariff impact, shortens lead times, and supports share gains. EBX discipline continues to drive pricing, supply chain performance, and productivity. We continue to have a robust list of productivity and transformational projects, and this year we're integrating AI into EBX to raise the bar. We're shifting our mix towards equipment and gas control, building a higher margin, less cyclical enterprise aimed at 22% plus EBITDA margins by 2028 or sooner. We've closed four acquisitions this year: Bavaria SchweißTechnik GmbH, Delta P, Aktiv, and EWM, expanding proprietary consumables, medical gas, and welding equipment. The funnel remains healthy and disciplined. Our third quarter performance shows resilience and strength of our enterprise.
Speaker #5: Our of path is consistent and proven . Our global footprint is an advantage . About 80% of our manufacturing is in region four region , which reduces tariff impact , shorten lead times and supports share gains .
Speaker #5: EPs discipline continues to drive pricing , supply chain performance and productivity . We continue to have a robust list of productivity and transformational projects , and this year we're integrating AI into EB to raise the bar .
Speaker #5: We're shifting our mix towards equipment and gas control, building a higher margin, less cyclical enterprise aimed at 22% plus EBITDA margins by 2028 or sooner.
Speaker #5: We've closed four acquisitions this year . Bavaria , Delta P active and IWM expanding proprietary consumables , medical , gas and welding equipment .
Speaker #5: The funnel remains healthy and disciplined . Our third quarter performance shows resilience and strength of our enterprise . We returned to organic growth close W.M.
Shyam Kambeyanda: We returned to organic growth, closed EWM early, raised our guidance, and have had a solid start to Q4. We're accelerating EBX, integrating EWM, and using strong cash flow and a flexible balance sheet to advance our compounder journey. ESAB is built to perform, adapt, and win. With that, operator, please open the line for questions.
Speaker #5: early raised our guidance and have had a solid start to Q4 . We're accelerating EB integrating AUM and using strong cash flow and a flexible balance sheet to advance our compound journey .
Speaker #5: Esab is built to perform , adapt , and win . With that operator , please open the line for questions .
Speaker #3: Thank you . We will now begin the question and answer session . If you would like to ask a question , please press star one on your telephone keypad to raise your hand and join the queue .
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Speaker #3: Your first question comes from the line of Brian Blair from Oppenheimer . Your line is open .
Speaker #7: Thank you . Good morning guys .
Bryan Blair: Thank you. Morning, guest.
Speaker #6: Hi , Bryan .
Shyam Kambeyanda: Hi Brian.
Speaker #7: Sequential improvement in the Americas. This is obviously good to see. There's some consternation from last quarter regarding deferred automation shipments and selling to Mexico.
Bryan Blair: Sequential improvement in Americas. This is obviously good to see. There was obviously some consternation last quarter regarding deferred automation shipments and then selling to Mexico. To what extent did your team catch up on that? $15 million or so in combined revenue during Q3. Are there any lingering risks or concerns on either front?
Speaker #7: To what extent did your team catch up on that 15 million or so in combined revenue during Q3 , and are there any lingering risks or concerns on either front ?
Speaker #5: You know , the way to think about it is there was a bit of catch up , but not much really . It was good execution from our teams , a lot more focus on some commercial excellence within the teams .
Shyam Kambeyanda: You know, Bryan, the way to think about it is there was a bit of catch up, but not much really. It was good execution from our teams, a lot more focus on some commercial excellence within the teams. Mexico stabilized. We continue to sort of drive some of our sales initiatives, and we talked about equipment and automation doing well. We did catch up to a little bit of that automation push out, but not all of it. We think that sort of kind of feeds in into Q4 and a little bit into Q1. All in all, we felt really good about the print that we had in the Americas overall. As you know, South America performed as expected. Mexico performed as expected. We obviously had some momentum in the U.S. market and are feeling really good about the team, our execution plans, and our start to Q4.
Speaker #5: Mexico stabilized . We continue to sort of drive some of our sales initiatives , and we talked about equipment and automation doing well .
Speaker #5: We did catch up to a little bit of that automation push out , but not all of it . We think that sort of kind of feeds in into Q4 and a little bit into Q1 .
Speaker #5: So , so all in all , we felt really good about the print that we had in the Americas overall . As you know .
Speaker #5: South America performed as expected . Mexico performed as expected . We obviously had some momentum in the US market . And so feeling really good about the team , our execution plans and our start to Q4 .
Speaker #7: Yeah , appreciate the the strategic fit of IWM seems quite powerful . It's nice that your team can begin integration a little earlier than anticipated , that in mind , how should we think about the year one deal model ?
Bryan Blair: Yeah, appreciate the color. The strategic fit of EWM seems quite powerful. It's nice that your team can begin integration a little earlier than anticipated. That in mind, how should we think about the year one deal model? I suspect cross-selling will be a solid lever, at least over time. We know gross profit is very strong, but it does seem like there's some relatively heavy-handed work to be done on SG&A structure. Just curious how we should think about those moving parts through the first year, perhaps the first couple of years.
Speaker #7: I suspect cross-selling will be a solid lever at least over time . We know gross profit is very strong , but it does seem like there's some relatively heavy handed work to be done on SG&A structure .
Speaker #7: Just curious how we should think about those moving parts through the first year . Or perhaps the first couple of years ?
Speaker #5: Yeah , I'll let Kevin talk about the modeling piece , but let me just talk about AWS as a business . Really strong , gross margins , better than 45% .
Shyam Kambeyanda: Yeah. I'll let Kevin talk about the modeling piece. Let me just talk about EWM as a business. Really strong gross margins, better than 45%. Really thrilled about the gross margin % within the business. Really excited about the reception we received at Essen, plus some customers globally in almost every geographic region. Our sales teams are now pulling on the product line, which is excellent to see. The third thing that I would say to you is a lesson that we have learned over time is that we have to invest in the front end early to drive some of the growth pieces. That's what we're doing. You heard in our commentary we're talking about growth initiatives and growth incentives that we're going to put in place to drive equipment sales and accelerate that mix. I'll let Kevin talk about the modeling piece.
Speaker #5: So really thrilled about the gross margin percentage within the business . Really excited about the reception . We received at Essen . Plus some customers globally in almost every geographic region .
Speaker #5: Our sales teams are now pulling on on the product line , which is which is excellent to see . The third thing that I would say to you is in a lesson that we have learned over time is that we have to invest in the front end early to drive some of the growth pieces , and that's what we're doing .
Speaker #5: And you heard in our commentary , we're talking about growth initiatives and growth incentives that we're going to put in place to drive equipment sales and accelerate that mix .
Speaker #5: I'll let Kevin talk about the modeling piece.
Speaker #6: Yeah , Brian , as I mentioned on the call , our expectation this year for is around $3 million of profit . And obviously , again , as I mentioned , we are making some investments in that business and we'll continue to make those investments over the next 12 months as we drive the business to its 10% ROI .
Kevin Johnson: Yeah. Bryan, as I mentioned on the call, our expectation this year for EWM is around $3 million of profit. Obviously, again, as I mentioned, we are making some investments in that business and we'll continue to make those investments over the next 12 months as we drive the business to its 10% ROIC target by year three. What I can say, you know, we've been on delivery now for about a month and we're actually seeing some tremendous opportunities both on the top line and also synergies right across the business, both not only in SG&A but also within gross profit. I think when we come to give our guidance in the first quarter, I think we'll be in a better position to build all of those into our model and provide those to you in Q1 next year.
Speaker #6: ROIC target by year three . But what I can say , you know , we've been under the hood now for about a month , and we're actually seeing some tremendous opportunities both on the top line and also synergies right across the business , both not only in SG&A , but also within gross profit .
Speaker #6: So I think when we come to give our guidance in the first quarter , I think we'll be in a better position to build all of those in to our model and provide those to you in Q1 next year .
Speaker #5: But but a really exciting addition to us , Brian , I think , you know , an appropriate time as well . I think a good inflection point in Europe .
Shyam Kambeyanda: A really exciting addition to us, Bryan. I think, you know, appropriate time as well. I think a good inflection point in Europe. Really excited about what that business brings to us, not just in Europe, but globally.
Speaker #5: So, I'm really excited about what that business brings to us, not just in Europe, but globally.
Bryan Blair: Understood. Very encouraging. Thanks again.
Speaker #7: For encouraging . Thanks again .
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Tami Zaccaria from JP Morgan . Your line is open .
Operator: Your next question comes from a line of Tami Zakaria from JP Morgan. Your line is open.
Speaker #8: Hi . Good morning . Great . Results . Question on the Americas segment EBITDA margin moved down about 100 basis points . Was this according to your expectation ?
Tami Zakaria: Hi, good morning. Great results. Question on the Americas segment, EBITDA margin moved down about 100 basis points. Was this according to your expectation? If so, what's driving it, and is there any tariff headwind to call out there?
Speaker #8: If so, what's driving it, and is there any tariff headwind to call out there?
Speaker #5: Yeah , the short answer is we did expect some of it . The the couple of contributors were the first thing that we mentioned in the earlier piece is that we are investing in some sales and growth initiatives in the region that we believe will benefit us as we go into 2026 .
Shyam Kambeyanda: Yeah, the short answer is we did expect some of it. The couple of contributors were, the first thing that we mentioned in the earlier piece is that we are investing in some sales and growth initiatives in the region that we believe will benefit us as we go into 2026. The second part of it is that we did see some tariff-based impact come at us late in the quarter that we will offset by making sure that we appropriately move the manufacturing to the regions, which happens in late Q1 or possibly early Q1 for us. Very confident about setting up the business in the Americas for margin expansion into 2026 and feeling good about the restructuring initiatives also that we've started that will accelerate that margin journey for us in the Americas.
Speaker #5: And then the second part of it is that we did see some tariff-based impact come at us late in the quarter, that we will offset by making sure that we appropriately move the manufacturing to the regions, which happens in late Q1 or possibly early Q2.
Speaker #5: For us . So very confident about setting up the business in the Americas for margin expansion into 2026 . And feeling good about the restructuring initiatives .
Speaker #5: Also that we've started that will accelerate that margin journey for us in the Americas .
Speaker #8: Understood . That's very helpful . And one question on M&A , I think you did Bavaria and then IWM both seem to be based .
Tami Zakaria: Understood, that's very helpful. One question on M&A, I think you did Bavaria SchweißTechnik GmbH and then EWM. Both seem to be Europe based. Are you consciously expanding footprint, particularly in Europe, because you see more growth in the region, or you remain agnostic and you don't mind expanding in the Americas or Asia?
Speaker #8: Are you consciously expanding footprint , particularly in Europe , because you see more growth in the region or you know you remain agnostic and you don't mind expanding in the Americas or Asia ?
Speaker #5: Yeah we're agnostic I think what we're looking for are the best assets at the best financial . You know , principles that we have for the business .
Shyam Kambeyanda: Yeah, we're agnostic. I think what we're looking for are the best assets at the best financial principles that we have for the business. Both these businesses actually give us extensions into other geographic regions. Bavaria SchweißTechnik GmbH has the ability to supply into the North American market, the Middle East, and Asia. EWM actually had made some nice inroads into North America. We're finding some additional opportunities in the Middle East and Asia for the EWM product line. These two businesses obviously strengthen our footprint in Europe, but create opportunities and avenues for growth in North America in particular and also in the other geographic regions.
Speaker #5: Both these businesses actually give us extensions into other geographic regions. Bavaria has the ability to supply into the North American market. The Middle East and Asia are areas where U-M has actually made some inroads into North America.
Speaker #5: We're finding some additional opportunities in the Middle East and Asia for the AUM product line . And so these two businesses obviously strengthen our footprint in Europe .
Speaker #5: But create opportunities and avenues for growth in North America, in particular, and also in the other geographic regions.
Speaker #8: Understood . Thank you .
Tami Zakaria: Understood, thank you.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of MiG Dobre from Baird . Your line is open .
Operator: Your next question comes from a line of Mig Dobre from Baird. Your line is open.
Speaker #5: Thank you for taking .
Mig Dobre: Thank you for taking questions and good morning. Good morning. If we can go back to the margin discussion in Americas. I think I heard Kevin, or maybe it was you, Shyam, saying that 2026, we should be seeing much, much stronger margins in this segment. I realize you're not providing 2026 detailed guidance, but it would be helpful for us to understand why margins get better in 2026, what's sort of within your control and maybe some of the restructuring that you're doing as opposed to just kind of a broader call on end market reacceleration?
Speaker #9: My questions and good morning. Good morning. If we can go back to the margin discussion in the Americas, I think I heard Kevin, or maybe it was you, saying that by 2026 we should be seeing much, much stronger margins in this segment.
Speaker #9: I realize you're not providing 26 detailed 26 guidance , but it would be helpful for us to understand why margins get better in 26 .
Speaker #9: What's sort of within your control, and maybe some of the restructuring that you're doing, as opposed to just kind of a broader call on end market?
Speaker #9: We .
Speaker #5: Yeah , I think there were sort of two fold . We're not calling out the specific restructuring activities . MiG as you can imagine , but we are some of the projects are already underway and we expect that to complete sometime in early first quarter .
Shyam Kambeyanda: Yeah, I think there were sort of twofold. We are not calling out the specific restructuring activities, Meg, as you can imagine, but we are. Some of the projects are already underway, and we expect that to complete sometime in early first quarter. The second aspect obviously is that we get to better comparables as we move into 2026. The third aspect for us is as we sort of shift some of the supply chains to where they need to be appropriately, we feel we get another boost.
Speaker #5: The second aspect , obviously , is that we get to better comparables as we as we move into 2026 . And the third aspect for us is as we sort of shift some of the supply chains to where they need to be appropriately , we feel we get another boost .
Speaker #5: So sort of three things happening . Pricing that will occur as we start the year . The tariff base movements that we're making to sort of ensure our manufacturing is in the right spot .
Shyam Kambeyanda: It is sort of three things happening: pricing that will occur as we start the year, the tariff-based movements that we're making to sort of ensure our manufacturing is in the right spot, and then the restructuring that we're doing, all of which we feel will sort of come to fruition somewhere in that early first quarter, giving us really solid momentum for margin expansion in 2026. We've always said this, we're very comfortable getting to that 22%+ EBITDA number by 2028. You've seen in our historical pieces, we sort of have a couple of years where we're settling in and sort of creating momentum, and then the following year we sort of accelerate and build out. This would be no different than that.
Speaker #5: And then the restructuring that we're doing that all of it , which we feel will sort of come to fruition somewhere in that early first quarter , giving us really solid momentum for margin expansion in 2026 .
Speaker #5: And we've always said this , MiG , we're very comfortable getting to that 22% plus EBITDA number by 2028 . You know , and you've seen in our historical pieces , we sort of have a couple of years where we're settling in and sort of creating momentum .
Speaker #5: And then the following year we sort of accelerate and build out . This would be no different than that .
Speaker #9: Okay . Understood . Maybe in your EMEA and APAC segment , you know , as others pointed out , you are increasing your exposure to Europe , maybe with some of the the deals that you have done .
Mig Dobre: Okay, understood. Maybe in your EMEA and APAC segment, you know, as others pointed out, you are increasing your exposure to Europe, maybe with some of the deals that you have done. As we're looking at 2025.
Speaker #9: But as we're looking at 2025 , right , it does seem that there's quite a bit of bifurcation between what you've experienced in Middle East and India versus what's been going on in Europe .
Shyam Kambeyanda: It.
Mig Dobre: does seem that there's quite a bit of bifurcation between what you've experienced in the Middle East and India versus what's been going on in Europe. I guess it would be helpful maybe delineating the European region versus some of the other ones in this segment. As a general framework for 2026, how do you think about Europe relative to these other regions? I mean, can we count on actual volume acceleration in 2026 if Europe picks up, or are there some other factors that we need to keep in mind here? Thank you.
Speaker #9: So I guess it would be helpful . Maybe delineating the European region versus some of the other ones in the segment . And as a general framework for for 2026 , how do you think about Europe relative to these other regions ?
Speaker #9: I mean , can we count on actual volume acceleration in 26 if Europe picks up ? Or are there some other factors that we need to keep in mind here ?
Speaker #9: Thank you .
Speaker #5: Yeah , really detailed question that . So let me sort of address all of it . So so the first piece is we continue to see strong orders and strength in our high growth markets .
Shyam Kambeyanda: Yeah, really detailed question. Let me sort of address all of it. The first piece is we continue to see strong orders and strength in our high growth markets. In fact, the entire team was here last week and we got to interact with two of the regional presidents, especially from the Middle East and Asia, and really strong momentum and we expect that momentum to stay. The second piece of your question, around Europe, we've actually done really well in Europe and we get some data that's based off the European Welding Association. I can tell you our numbers are significantly better than what we think is happening in that industry, which sort of points towards significant share gain in the European market by our teams. It's on the back of equipment and automation.
Speaker #5: In fact , the entire team was here last week . And we we got to interact with two of the regional presidents , especially from the Middle East and Asia .
Speaker #5: And really strong momentum . And we expect that momentum to stay the second piece of your question around Europe , we've actually done really well in Europe .
Speaker #5: You know , and we get some data that's based off the European welding Association . And I can tell you our numbers are significantly better than what we think is happening in that industry , which sort of points towards significant share gain in the European market by our teams .
Speaker #5: And it's on the back of equipment and automation . We talked about , you know , high single digit growth in equipment . And that's really where something that I've spoken to you about in the past , where we're winning over customers in Europe and the rest of the world with our equipment , product line , which we believe eventually makes its way to the markets that we're most focused on , which is in the Americas .
Shyam Kambeyanda: We talked about high single digit growth in equipment and that's really where something that I've spoken to you about in the past where we're winning over customers in Europe and the rest of the world with our equipment product line, which we believe eventually makes its way to the markets that we're most focused on, which is in the Americas. We continue to have that particular momentum. The third part of your question, we are seeing orders and momentum increase in Europe based on defense, based on some infrastructure movements and energy investments in Europe. We expect that to accelerate as we go into 2026.
Speaker #5: So we continue to have that particular momentum. The third part of your question: we are seeing orders and momentum increase in Europe based on defense, based on some infrastructure movements, and energy investments in Europe.
Speaker #5: We expect that to accelerate as we go into 2026 . So the overall picture for us in 2026 is we still feel very good about this flywheel where Asia , middle East continues its momentum forward and Europe gives an additional buoy to that already strong marketplace that we have , giving us possibly some really good tailwind .
Shyam Kambeyanda: The overall picture for us in 2026 is we still feel very good about this flywheel where Asia Middle East continues its momentum forward and Europe gives an additional buoy to that already strong marketplace that we have, giving us possibly some really good tailwind. We'll finish out the quarter and give you guidance as we get into 2026. As we sit here, we feel that we're very well positioned to sort of capitalize and win on that acceleration.
Speaker #5: Now we'll finish out the quarter and give you guidance as we get into 2026 . But as we sit here , we feel that we're very well positioned to to sort of take capitalize and win on that acceleration .
Speaker #9: No , that's that's super helpful . And if I may squeeze one , one last one when we're talking about IWM , can you talk a little bit about about their legacy distribution and how that compares to , to your footprint .
Mig Dobre: That's super helpful. If I may squeeze one last one, when we're talking about EWM, can you talk a little bit about their legacy distribution and how that compares to your footprint, and how easy or maybe not easy is it to take that product and be able to just kind of put it through your global distribution network? Thank you.
Speaker #9: And you know how easy, or maybe not easy, it is to take that product and be able to, you know, just kind of put it through your global distribution network.
Speaker #9: Thank you .
Speaker #5: Yeah . So I'll start with the conversation in Europe , very rarely do I get , you know , an applause when I'm in a town hall very early in my commentary .
Shyam Kambeyanda: Yeah. I'll start with the conversation in Europe. Very rarely do I get an applause when I'm in a town hall very early in my commentary. When we announced the EWM acquisition with our team in Europe, I can't tell you the excitement that existed in the team. The second part of it on distribution is very complementary. As a result, we are actually seeing opportunities for us to move our products, especially consumables and torches, into their distribution channel and sort of pick up sales for ESAB on that particular front. In terms of reception of their product lines, when we looked at the acquisition, the product lines were very complementary as well. We had a really strong light industrial line. They complemented the gaps that we had on the heavy industrial line. As a result, when you look at our lineup today, Mig, it's incredible.
Speaker #5: And , you know , when we announced the IWM acquisition with our team in Europe , I can't tell you the excitement that that existed in the team .
Speaker #5: The second part of it on distribution , it actually is very complementary . And as a result , we are actually seeing opportunities for us to move our products , especially consumables and torches , into their distribution channel .
Speaker #5: And sort of pick up sales for Esab on that particular front . And in terms of reception of their product lines , when we looked at the acquisition , the product lines were very complimentary as well .
Speaker #5: We had a really strong light industrial line . They complemented the gaps that we had on the heavy industrial line . And as a result , when you look at our lineup today , MiG , it's it's incredible .
Speaker #5: And I'll also tell you , there is a us customer that's been after us since fabtech to kind of figure out how we can get that line into North America .
Shyam Kambeyanda: I also tell you there is a U.S. customer that's been after us since Fabtech to kind of figure out how we can get that line into North America. Really excited about the avenues it's opened up and the opportunities that we have in front of us. It's going to come down to execution like anything else, Mig. That challenge we'll take on as a team.
Speaker #5: And so really excited about the avenues it's opened up and the opportunities that we have in front of us . It's going to come down to execution like anything else .
Speaker #5: MiG , but that challenge will take on as a team . .
Speaker #9: All right . Good luck . Thank you .
Mig Dobre: All right, good luck. Thank you.
Speaker #5: Thanks .
Bryan Blair: Thanks.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Nathan Jones from Stiefel. Your line is open.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Nathan Jones from Stifel. Your line is open.
Speaker #10: Good morning everyone . Hey Nathan , I'll start with asking for a bit more color on your comment that you're off to a pretty good start in for Q if you could , you know , just expand on that and talk about what you're seeing today in the fourth quarter .
Bryan Blair: Good morning, everyone.
Shyam Kambeyanda: Hey, morning, Nathan.
Bryan Blair: I'll start with asking for a bit more color on your comment that you're off to a pretty good start in Q4. If you could just expand on that and talk about what you're seeing today in the fourth quarter.
Speaker #10: Thanks .
Operator: Thanks.
Speaker #5: Yeah , I think , Nathan , the way we we look at our fourth quarter is , you know , we finished at about a 2% core growth rate in in the third quarter .
Shyam Kambeyanda: Yeah, I think, Nathan, the way we look at our fourth quarter is we finished at about a 2% core growth rate in the third quarter. We're expecting that to be a little better in Q4, and October started off on that run rate. That's really what I'm talking about, is that our core growth improves from where we were in Q3, and we feel good about that as we sit here today. All in all, I think as you look at ESAB and you sort of project out, comparables get better. Our teams are focused on execution. I talked about the investments that we're making. One of the things that I do want to stress with the entire community that's on the call, we've always said to all of you that we are an and business.
Speaker #5: We're expecting that to be a little better in Q4 and October started off on that run rate . And that's really what I'm what I'm talking about is that our core growth improves from where we were in Q3 , and we feel good about that as we sit here today .
Speaker #5: All in all , you know , I think as you look at Esab and you sort of project out comparables , get better , our teams are focused on execution .
Speaker #5: I talked about the investments that we're making . You know , one of the things that I do want to stress with the entire community that's on the call , we've always said to all of you that we are an and business .
Speaker #5: You know , we want to go out and do the productivity things for esab , but we also want to go ahead and invest in our business in terms of growth and our initiatives .
Shyam Kambeyanda: We want to go out and do the productivity things for ESAB, but we also want to go ahead and invest in our business in terms of growth and our initiatives. We're doing both of that, and we feel that that returns the best. That's the best return for our shareholders over the long term, and we're committed to that. We're taking the opportunity here as we finish out 2025 to invest in the business and take some productivity and cost out. We feel that that sets us up well for 2026.
Speaker #5: And we're doing both of that . And we feel that that returns the best . That's the best return for our shareholders over the long term .
Speaker #5: And we're committed to that . And we're taking the opportunity here as we finish out 2025 to invest in the business and take some productivity and cost out .
Speaker #5: And we feel that that sets us up well for 26 .
Speaker #10: Thanks for that . I guess I'll follow up on price . Cost in America is obviously seen as that's where the tariff impact is .
Bryan Blair: Thanks for that. I guess I'll follow up on price cost in Americas, obviously, seeing as that's where the tariff impact is. You talked about getting some costs later in the quarter. Did you get to price cost neutral on a dollar basis in the third quarter? Is there any color you can give us on what the drag was to margins in the third quarter, and then your expectations for the fourth quarter on price cost? I'll leave it there, thanks.
Speaker #10: You talked about getting some some costs later in the quarter . Did you get to price cost neutral on a dollar basis in the third quarter ?
Speaker #10: Is there any color you can give us on what the drag was to margins in the third then your expectations for for the fourth quarter on price cost , and I'll leave it there .
Speaker #10: Thanks .
Speaker #5: Yeah , it was a slight drag in the quarter on on price cost really . It came about towards the end when copper tariffs came in and there was some products that that we sort of build in the US and ship out to other regions where we actually have manufacturing capacity .
Shyam Kambeyanda: Yeah, it was a slight drag in the quarter on price cost, really. It came about towards the end when copper tariffs came in, and there were some products that we sort of build in the U.S. and ship out to other regions where we actually have manufacturing capacity, Nathan. What we are going to be doing is moving that manufacturing capacity to the region that the products are sold in and take away that drag that we saw in the third quarter. In addition to that, we talked about doing some additional restructuring, which is actually already underway that we expect to finish out in the early part of Q1, creating that really nice tailwind on margin expansion for 2026.
Speaker #5: Nathan . So what we are going to be doing is , is moving that manufacturing capacity to the region that that the products are sold in and take away that drag that we saw in the third quarter .
Speaker #5: In addition to that , we talked about doing some additional restructuring , which is actually already underway . That we expect to finish out in the early part of of Q1 , creating that really nice tailwind on margin expansion for 26 .
Speaker #5: .
Speaker #10: And just to clarify, drag on margins or drag on dollars?
Bryan Blair: To clarify, drag on margins or drag on dollars?
Speaker #5: It was a bit on dollars . So that's that's really causing the drag as well . So price cost slightly . You know , off of neutral .
Shyam Kambeyanda: It was a bit on dollars, that's really causing the drag as well. Price costs slightly, you know, off of neutral.
Speaker #10: Thanks for taking the questions .
Bryan Blair: Thanks for taking the questions.
Speaker #3: Your next question comes from the line of Neil Berk from UBS. Your line is open.
Operator: Your next question comes from the line of Neal Burk from UBS. Your line is open.
Speaker #11: Thanks . Good morning .
Bryan Blair: Thanks. Good morning.
Speaker #5: Hi , Neil .
Shyam Kambeyanda: Hi Neil.
Speaker #11: Hey . Good morning . Good to see solid growth in equipment and automation . Can you just talk about what you're seeing in consumables ?
Bryan Blair: Hey, good morning. Good to see solid growth in equipment and automation. Can you just talk about what you're seeing in consumables?
Speaker #5: Yeah . You know , the way to think about our consumable business , we continue to do well . It's just that we sort of saw our new products , our new product introductions .
Shyam Kambeyanda: Yeah, you know the way to think about our consumable business, we continue to do well. It's just that we sort of saw our new products, our new product introductions. We've introduced actually an engine driven welder. You know, our edge product line continues to do really well. We've introduced a fabricator line and some new lips in other geographies that have sort of really caught the attention in the marketplace. We've been focused for a while to get our channel to pick up and customers to pick up our equipment. We're seeing success. In fact, I would submit that in some of the regions we're really out there taking some significant share from the competition. On the consumable side, we're steady and we feel that we're still doing better than market on the consumable side, but slightly lower sort of growth performance on that particular front.
Speaker #5: We've introduced actually an engine driven welder . You know , our edge product line continues to do really well . We've introduced a fabricator line and some new lips in other geographies that have sort of really caught the attention in the marketplace .
Speaker #5: And we've been focused for a while to get our channel to pick up and customers to pick up our equipment , and we're seeing success .
Speaker #5: In fact, I would submit that in some of the regions, we're really out there taking some significant share from the competition on the consumable side; we're steady.
Speaker #5: You know , and we feel that we're still doing better than market on on the consumable side , but slightly lower , you know , sort of growth performance on that particular front .
Speaker #5: But we're excited about what's what's coming at us for 2026 and how Q4 has started . So nothing there that causes us any sense of alarm or concern .
Shyam Kambeyanda: We're excited about what's coming at us for 2026 and how Q4 has started. Nothing there that causes us any sense of alarm or concern, but really excited about the entire portfolio now coming to work. I mentioned that briefly, we're really working on workflow solutions. I won't mention the customer in particular, but we actually went into a large U.S. customer and provided a full workflow solution that had our equipment, torches, filamental, and our digital solution set. For the first time we're certified for that customer globally. We're picking up a few orders on that particular front and really driving the full workflow solution set, which I think is going to benefit both our consumable business and our equipment business going forward.
Speaker #5: But really excited about the entire portfolio . Now coming to work . And I and I mentioned that briefly , we're really working on workflow solutions .
Speaker #5: And I won't mention this . I won't mention the customer in particular , but we actually went into a large US customer and provided a full workflow solution that had our equipment , torches , filler , metal and our digital solution set .
Speaker #5: And for the first time , we're certified for that customer globally . And so we're picking up a few orders on that particular front .
Speaker #5: And so really driving the full workflow solution set , which I think is going to benefit both our consumable business and our equipment business going forward .
Speaker #11: Thank you . And just a follow up , if my math is right on last quarter on this Mexico and automation headwind , I thought the the headwind implied about a 20% decline in revenues in those businesses in the Americas .
Bryan Blair: Thank you. Just a follow up, if my math is right, on last quarter on this Mexico and automation headwind, I thought the headwind implied about a 20% decline in revenues in those businesses in the Americas, and this quarter it seems like it's more like maybe a mid single digit decline, I guess. Is that math roughly correct? Going forward, it looks like you're going to exit this year growing at around 3 to 4% in aggregate. Absent anything dramatically changing, kind of the absence of the negative in those two businesses in Mexico and automation, is that a good starting point for next year? Any kind of major puts and takes on the growth rate exiting the year and entering 2026?
Speaker #11: And this quarter , it seems like it's it's more like maybe a mid , mid single digit decline , I guess . Is that math ?
Speaker #11: Like roughly correct ? And I guess , like going forward , I mean , it like you're going to exit this year growing at around 3 to 4% in aggregate .
Speaker #11: So I mean absent anything dramatically changing kind of the absence of the negative in those two businesses in Mexico and automation , is that like a good a good starting point for next year , like any , any kind of like major puts and takes on the growth rate exiting the year and entering 2026 .
Speaker #6: I'd mean Mexico , as Sean mentioned , you know , pretty stable on what we saw in the second quarter . But yes , we are .
Kevin Johnson: I mean, Mexico, as Shyam mentioned, pretty stable on what we saw in the second quarter. Yes, we are dying in terms of volumes, and that's really the countermeasure to the fact that the U.S. grew in that mid single digit territory, which was a nice bounce back to what we saw in the second quarter. I think what you'll see as we step into 2026 is that our comps against Mexico will get significantly easier, if that's what you're getting at. We would expect that there would be some tailwinds on volumes as we step into 2026, particularly from Q2 onwards when the tariffs impacted us.
Speaker #6: You know , dying , you know , in terms of volumes . And that's really the countermeasure to the fact that the US , you know , grew in that mid-single digit territory , which was a nice , nice bounce back to what we saw in in the second quarter .
Speaker #6: I think what you'll see as we step into 2026 is that , you know , our comps against Mexico will get , you know , significantly easier if that's what you're getting at .
Speaker #6: So , you know , we would expect that there would be some tailwind on volumes as we step into 2026 , particularly from from Q2 onwards when the when the tariffs impacted us .
Speaker #5: But we can we can sort of talk offline . Neil , on some of the numbers . It does look a little off .
Shyam Kambeyanda: We can sort of talk offline, Neal, on some of the numbers. It does look a little bit off, but we can discuss those numbers on our separate call.
Speaker #5: But we can we can discuss those numbers . You know , on our separate call .
Speaker #11: Great . Yeah . Thank you .
Bryan Blair: Great. Thank you.
Speaker #3: And that concludes our question and answer session . I will now turn the call back over to Mark Barbalato for closing remarks .
Operator: That concludes our question and answer session. I will now turn the call back over to Mark Barbalato for closing remarks.
Speaker #4: Thank you for joining us today. We look forward to speaking with you next quarter.
Mark Barbalato: Thank you for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking to you next quarter.
Operator: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.