Q3 2025 Four Corners Property Trust Inc Conference Call
Speaker #1: Welcome everyone . The FCP third quarter 2020 Financial Results conference call will begin shortly . In the meantime , if you would like to pre-register to ask a question , please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad .
Operator: Welcome, everyone. The FCPT third quarter 2025 financial results conference call will begin shortly. In the meantime, if you would like to pre-register to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your telephone keypad now. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining the FCPT third quarter 2025 financial results conference call. My name is Claire, and I will be coordinating your call today. During the presentation, you can register a question by pressing star followed by one on your telephone keypad. If you change your mind, please press star followed by two on your telephone keypad. I will now hand over to Patrick Wernig from Four Corners Property Trust Inc to begin. Please go ahead.
Speaker #1: Now . Hello everyone , and thank you for joining the FCP . Third quarter 2020 Financial Results conference call . My name is Claire and I will be coordinating your call today during the presentation , you can register a question by pressing star , followed by one on your telephone keypad .
Speaker #1: If you change your mind , please press star , followed by two on your telephone keypad . I will now hand over to Patrick Wernig from Four Corners Property Trust Inc .
Speaker #1: To begin , please go ahead .
Speaker #2: Thank you . Claire . During the course of this call , we will make forward looking statements which are based on our beliefs and assumptions .
Josh Zhang: Thank you, Claire. During the course of this call, we will make forward-looking statements, which are based on our beliefs and assumptions. Actual results will be affected by known and unknown factors that are beyond our control or ability to predict. Our assumptions are not a guarantee of future performance, and some will prove to be incorrect. For a more detailed description of some potential risks, please refer to our SEC filings, which can be found at fcpt.com. All the information presented on this call is current as of today, October 29, 2025. In addition, reconciliation to non-GAAP financial measures presented on this call, such as FFO and AFFO, can be found in the company supplemental report. With that, I will turn the call over to Bill.
Speaker #2: Actual results will be affected by known and unknown factors that are beyond our control or ability to predict. Our assumptions are not a guarantee of future performance, and some will prove to be incorrect.
Speaker #2: For a more detailed description of some potential risks , please refer to our SEC filings , which can be found at ft.com . All the information presented on this call is current as of today , October 29th , 2025 .
Speaker #2: In addition , reconciliation to non-GAAP Financial measures presented on this call , such as FFO and FFO , can be found in the company's supplemental report .
Speaker #2: With that , I will turn the call over to Bill .
Speaker #3: Good morning . November 9th marks our ten year anniversary as a public company . We are truly grateful to our shareholders , advisors , counterparties , board and team members , past and present , for their support , guidance and contributions over the past decade .
Bill Lenehan: Good morning. November 9 marks our 10-year anniversary as a public company. We are truly grateful to our shareholders, advisors, counterparties, board, and team members, past and present, for their support, guidance, and contributions over the past decade. We are proud of the portfolio we've built and look forward to continuing our mission of creating shareholder value. Reflecting on our 10-year history, the highlights have been starting with thoughtful structuring at the spin-off, including our asset selection, modest, well-covered rents, low leverage, and low corporate overhead. Executing an acquisition strategy with clear underwriting standards has led to $2.2 billion of acquisitions and annual cash rent nearly tripling from $94 million at spin to $256 million at our current run rate. Expanding the investment aperture into new sectors and tenants while conservatively sticking to healthy sectors with mission-critical real estate.
Speaker #3: We are proud of the portfolio we built and look forward to continuing our mission of creating shareholder value . Reflecting on our ten year history , the highlights have been starting with thoughtful structuring of the spinoff , including our asset selection , modest , well covered rents , low leverage , and low corporate corporate overhead executing and acquisition strategy with clear underwriting standards that has led to $2.2 billion of acquisitions and annual cash rent .
Speaker #3: Nearly tripling from $94 million at Spin to $256 million at our current run rate . Expanding the investment aperture into new sectors and tenants while conservatively sticking to healthy sectors with mission critical real estate .
Speaker #3: Taking a shareholder friendly posture with significant , significant insider ownership . Best in class disclosure , thoughtful capital allocation and straight and ten straight years of top decile governance scores .
Bill Lenehan: Taking a shareholder-friendly posture with significant insider ownership, best-in-class disclosure, thoughtful capital allocation, and 10 straight years of top desktop governance scores. Building a very capable organization, we began with just four employees and a single tenant across 418 properties. Today, we have 44 team members and 170 brands across nearly 1,300 leases. We've had very high retention along the way, and heading into 2026, we are fortunate to have a bright, young, and motivated team. We have more capacity than ever across the organization. Now, shifting back to the current quarter's results. Following my initial remarks, Josh will comment on our investment activity, and Patrick will discuss financial results and capital position. We acquired $82 million of net lease properties in Q3 at a 6.8% blended cap rate. Over the trailing 12 months, we acquired $355 million, which is amongst our highest volume across four consecutive quarters.
Speaker #3: Building a very capable organization. We began with just four employees and a single tenant across 418 properties. Today, we have 44 team members and 170 brands across nearly 1,300 leases.
Speaker #3: We've had very high retention along the way and heading into 2026 , we are fortunate to have a bright , young and motivated team .
Speaker #3: We have more capacity than ever across the organization now. Shifting back to the current quarter's results, following my initial remarks, Josh will comment on our investment activity, and Patrick will discuss financial results and capital position.
Speaker #3: We acquired 82 million of net leased properties in Q3 at a 6.8 blended cap rate over the trailing 12 months , we acquired 355 million , which is amongst our highest volume across four consecutive quarters .
Speaker #3: These acquisitions were funded with equity raised on the ATM via forward issuance earlier in the year , at an average price above $28 a share .
Bill Lenehan: These acquisitions were funded with equity we raised on the ATM via forward issuance earlier in the year at an average price above $28 a share. We accomplished this year's acquisitions while maintaining what's become core to the FCPT brand, a focus on real estate and creditworthy tenants while avoiding sacrificing quality for volume or spread. At the heart of FCPT is also a commitment to modulating our acquisition pace when cost of capital becomes weaker, as we saw last year, and then ramping back up when things improve. Said another way, we believe how you raise capital and the cost of the capital is as important as what you purchase with it. Our ability to modulate acquisitions to protect accretive spreads without weakening our portfolio quality is, in our view, a strong competitive advantage of FCPT.
Speaker #3: We accomplished this year's acquisitions while maintaining what's become core to the brand: a focus on real estate and creditworthy tenants, while avoiding sacrificing quality for volume or spread.
Speaker #3: At the heart of FPT is also commitment to modulating our acquisition pace . When cost of capital becomes weaker , as we saw last year , and then ramping back up when things improve , said another way we believe how you raise capital and the cost of capital is as important as what you purchase with it .
Speaker #3: Our ability to modulate acquisitions to protect accretive spreads without weakening our portfolio quality is, in our view, a strong competitive advantage of FPT.
Speaker #3: Our in-place portfolio remains very strong , with zero exposure to the problem . Retailers or sectors such as theaters , pharmacy , high rent car washes and experiential retail .
Bill Lenehan: Our in-place portfolio remains very strong with zero exposure to the problem retailers or sectors such as theaters, pharmacy, high-rent car washes, and experiential retail. To that end, we have sidestepped tenant credit issues, including zero bad debt expense this year. Our rent coverage in Q3 was 5.1 times for the majority of our portfolio that reports this figure. This remains among the strongest coverage within the net lease industry. Olive Garden, LongHorn, and Chili's continue to be industry leaders in casual dining, as recently seen outperformance versus quick service and fast casual. Most recently, Brinker reported Chili's same-store sales growth of 21% for the quarter ended September 2025, which follows a full fiscal year of over 25% same-store sales. Similarly, Olive Garden and LongHorn reported same-store sales growth of near 6% for the quarter ended August 2025.
Speaker #3: To that end , we have sidestepped tenant credit issues , including zero bad debt expense this year , our rent coverage in Q3 was 5.1 times for the majority of our portfolio .
Speaker #3: That reports this figure . This remains amongst the strongest coverage within the net lease industry . Olive garden , Longhorn and Chili's continued to be industry leaders and casual dining has recently seen outperformance versus quick service and fast casual .
Speaker #3: Most recently , Brinker reported same store sales growth of 21% for the quarter ended September 2025 , which follows a full fiscal year of over 25% .
Speaker #3: Same store sales . Similarly , Olive garden and Longhorn reported same store sales growth of near 6% for the quarter ended August 2025 .
Speaker #3: Truly stellar results from our largest tenants and highlights the benefit of being aligned with best in class operators . We continue to make meaningful progress on our stated goal of diversification .
Bill Lenehan: Truly stellar results from our largest tenants and highlights the benefit of being aligned with best-in-class operators. We continue to make meaningful progress on our stated goal of diversification. Olive Garden and LongHorn are now 32% and 9% of our rent today versus a combined 94% at spin-off, while 35% of our rents come from outside of casual dining. This includes automotive service at 13%, quick service restaurants at 11%, and medical retail at 10%. All of our chosen sectors are focused on essential retail and services, creating a prudently defensive portfolio that is also tariff resistant. The question we regularly examine is how can we best enact our strategy in the current environment? Fortunately, we have underwritten forward equity, an encouraging set of opportunities in the pipeline, and below-target leverage. While we don't give formal guidance, we want to provide some context on where we stand today.
Speaker #3: Olive Garden and Longhorn are now 32% and 9% of our rent today , versus a combined 94% at Spin-Off , while 35% of our rent comes from outside of casual dining .
Speaker #3: This includes automotive service at 13% , quick service restaurants at 11% , and medical retail at 10% . All of our chosen sectors are focused on essential retail and services , creating a prudently defensive portfolio that is also tariff resistant .
Speaker #3: The question we regularly examine is how we can best snack our strategy in the current environment. Fortunately, we have undrawn forward equity and an encouraging set of opportunities in the pipeline, as well as below-target leverage.
Speaker #3: While we don't give formal guidance , we want to provide some context on where we stand today . We believe FPT is well positioned and we are encouraged by our pipeline and the opportunities we are seeing on the acquisition side .
Bill Lenehan: We believe FCPT is well-positioned, and we are encouraged by our pipeline and the opportunities we are seeing on the acquisition side. The debt market has improved substantially in recent months, both with greater lender capacity and falling interest rates. We have circa $270 million in combined dry powder that is a combination of equity, debt, and retained cash flow to fuel growth before reaching a mid-five times leverage target. That's still below our leverage cap. Because of our granular acquisition strategy, we can react quickly and efficiently to adjust our strategy for any major macro events or positive shifts in the rate environment. Finally, over the past few quarters, the deal-making environment has been characterized by some stops and starts. There's been less of that as of late. Looking at recent successes, we believe that we remain well-positioned heading into year end. Over to you, Josh.
Speaker #3: The debt market has improved substantially in recent months , both with greater lender capacity and falling interest rates . We have circa $270 million in combined dry powder .
Speaker #3: That is a combination of equity debt and retained cash flow to fuel growth before reaching a mid five times leverage target . That's still below our leverage cap because of our granular acquisition strategy .
Speaker #3: We can react quickly and efficiently to adjust our strategy for any major macro events or positive shifts in the rate environment. Finally, over the past few quarters, the deal-making environment has been characterized by some stops and starts.
Speaker #3: There's been less of that as of late , and looking at recent successes , we believe that we remain well positioned heading into year end .
Speaker #3: Over to you , Josh . Thanks , Bill . I'll start .
Josh Zhang: Thanks, Bill. I'll start with a review of this quarter's activity. We acquired 28 properties in Q3 for $82 million at a blended 6.8% cap rate with a weighted average lease term of 12 years. Over the first 10 months of 2025, we have now acquired 77 properties for $229 million, also at a blended 6.8% cap rate with a weighted average lease term of 13 years. Despite construction costs and overall real estate inflation, we maintain a low basis of less than $3 million per property in both Q3 and 2025 year-to-date acquisitions. Our selective approach of buying granular properties with fungible retail use, often well below estimated replacement costs, has been a key factor to our company's success over the past 10 years. During the quarter, we had a roughly even spread of investment volume across our primary sectors of restaurants, automotive, and medical retail.
Speaker #4: With a review of this quarter's activity . We acquired 28 properties in Q3 for $82 million at a blended 6.8% cap rate , with a weighted average lease term of 12 years .
Speaker #4: Over the first ten months of 2025, we have now acquired 77 properties for $229 million, also at a blended 6.8% cap rate, with a weighted average lease term of 13 years.
Speaker #4: Despite construction costs and overall real estate inflation, we've maintained a low basis of less than $3 million per property in both Q3 and 2025.
Speaker #4: Year to date acquisitions . Our selective approach of buying granular properties with fungible retail use often well below estimated replacement costs , have been a key factor to our company's success over the past ten years .
Speaker #4: During the quarter, we had a roughly even spread of investment volume across our primary sectors of restaurants, automotive, and medical retail.
Speaker #4: Our acquisitions included some of our existing national brands , such as Longhorn Steakhouse , VCA and Mavis . We also welcome new brands such as Doctor's Care , as we acquired six of their urgent care properties .
Josh Zhang: Our acquisitions included some of our existing national brands, such as LongHorn Steakhouse, VCA, and Mavis. We also welcomed new brands such as Doctors Care, as we acquired six of their urgent care properties. As mentioned in our transaction press release, these leases are guaranteed by Novant Health, a hospital network with over 900 locations and a AA- credit rating. Lastly, while we did not complete any dispositions in Q3, our team continues to field frequent reverse inquiries and offers on our properties. Now, reflecting on our strategy, over half of our year-to-date investment volume came directly from within our existing tenant base. In particular, we had two repeat sale leasebacks of note in Q3. One with Christian Brothers Automotive and another with Ampler, one of the largest Burger King franchisees with nearly 500 restaurants across the brand.
Speaker #4: As mentioned in our transaction press release, these leases are guaranteed by Novant Health, a hospital network with over 900 locations and a Double-A credit rating.
Speaker #4: Lastly, while we did not complete any dispositions in Q3, our team continues to field frequent reverse inquiries and offers on our properties.
Speaker #4: Now , reflecting on our strategy , over half of our year to date investment volume came directly from within our existing base . In particular , we had two repeat series of note in Q3 , one with Christian Brothers Automotive and another with antler , one of the largest Burger King franchisees with nearly 500 restaurants across the brain .
Speaker #4: Both of these transactions reiterate the strength of our existing tenant relationships and our reputation as buyers . Per usual , we'll continue to balance sourcing investments via SPACs with opportunistic acquisitions from institutional and independent sellers .
Josh Zhang: Both of these transactions reiterate the strength of our existing tenant relationships and our reputation as buyers. Per usual, we'll continue to balance sourcing investments via sale leasebacks with opportunistic acquisitions from institutional and independent sellers. The goal is to buy the best risk-adjusted return opportunities rather than focus on how it was sourced. We have also received questions about increased competition in our sector. As the first three quarters of 2025 demonstrate, we are finding ample opportunities. Our platform now has a 10-year history of sourcing and executing granular investments at scale, providing a service to both sellers and our existing tenants. We do not plan to deviate from this strategy. As a reminder, our competition is just as often individual 1031 buyers as it is other institutional buyers. Our platform's focus on execution, reputation, and track record allows us to continue to win deals.
Speaker #4: The goal is to buy the best risk adjusted return opportunities rather than focus on how it was sourced . We have also received questions about increased competition in our sector , as the first three quarters of 2025 demonstrates .
Speaker #4: We are finding ample opportunities. Our platform now has a ten-year history of sourcing and executing granular investments at scale, providing a service to both sellers and our existing tenants.
Speaker #4: We do not plan to deviate from the strategy as a reminder , our competition is just as often individual . 1031 buyers as it is other institutional buyers .
Speaker #4: Our platforms focus on execution , reputation and track record allows us to continue to win deals . Finally , while we do not provide acquisitions , guidance , Q4 is generally a busy time for our company .
Josh Zhang: Finally, while we do not provide acquisitions guidance, Q4 is generally a busy time for our company. As Bill noted, we have a positive outlook on recent deal sourcing. We utilize our press release regime to give the investor community real-time updates, so please be sure to watch the tape over the next few months. Patrick, back to you.
Speaker #4: And as Bill noted , we have a positive outlook on recent deal sourcing . We utilize we utilize our press release regime to give the investor community a time updates .
Speaker #4: So please be sure to watch the tape over the next few months . Patrick , back to you .
Speaker #2: Thanks , Josh . I'll start by talking about capital sourcing and the state of our balance sheet . As of yesterday , we have $100 million of unsettled equity forward at a price of $28.33 .
Patrick Wernig: Thanks, Josh. I'll start by talking about capital sourcing and the state of our balance sheet. As of yesterday, we have $100 million of unsettled equity forward at a price of $28.33. We note that maintaining a forward equity balance at higher SOFR rates largely offsets our carrying costs. We have near full capacity under our $350 million revolver and believe we have the dry powder to continue executing our business plan in Q4 and into 2026 without further accessing the capital markets. With respect to leverage, at the end of Q3, our net debt to adjusted EBITDA was just 4.7 times inclusive of our outstanding net equity forwards. Excluding those equity forwards, our leverage is 5.3 times. This is our fifth consecutive quarter of leverage below 5.5 times and remains near a seven-year low for us.
Speaker #2: We note that maintaining a forward equity balance at higher rates largely offsets our carrying costs . We have near full capacity under our $350 million revolver , and believe we have the dry powder to continue executing our business plan in Q4 and into 2026 .
Speaker #2: Without further accessing the capital markets . With respect to leverage , at the end of Q3 , our net debt to adjusted EBITDA was just 4.7 times inclusive of our outstanding net equity awards , excluding those equity forwards , our leveraged 5.3 times .
Speaker #2: This is our fifth consecutive quarter of leverage , below 5.5 times and remains near seven year low for us . Historically , we've always guided to a stated leverage range of 5.5 to 6 times .
Patrick Wernig: Historically, we've always guided to a stated leverage range of 5.5 to 6 times. We decided to lower that bottom realm of leverage target to 5 to 6 times to reflect our greater use of optionality, switching between debt and equity forward funding sources. As Bill mentioned, we have $270 million in dry powder before reaching just the middle of that leverage range, the combined use of equity forwards, debt capacity, and free cash flow. We aim to be opportunistic to achieve the best cost of capital based on market conditions. We layered in three additional hedges in Q3, lowering our floating interest rate exposure. We now have 95% of our floating rate debt fixed through November 2027 at 3% versus spot rates today above 4%. Overall, 97% of our debt stack is fully fixed, and our blended cash interest rate is 3.9%.
Speaker #2: We decided to lower that bottom rung of leverage target to 5 to 6 times to reflect our greater use of optionality . Switching between debt and equity funding sources .
Speaker #2: As Bill mentioned, we have $270 million in dry powder before reaching just the middle of that leverage range. This is the combined use of equity, forward's debt capacity, and free cash flow.
Speaker #2: We we aim to be opportunistic to achieve the best cost of capital based on market conditions . We learned in three additional hedges in Q3 lowering our floating interest rate exposure .
Speaker #2: We now have 95% of our floating rate debt fixed through November 2027 at 3% versus spot rates today above 4% . Overall , 97% of our debt stack is fully fixed , and our blended cash interest rate is 3.9% .
Speaker #2: I'd also like to provide an update on our credit facility . This past quarter , we removed the live audio for adjustment of an additional ten basis points on our revolver and term loan interest rate .
Patrick Wernig: I'd also like to provide an update on our credit facility. This past quarter, we removed the live or SOFR adjustment of an additional 10 basis points on our revolver and term loan interest rate. Our new borrowing rate on term loans is SOFR plus 95 basis points, and on the revolver, it's SOFR plus 85 basis points. This will improve FFO by approximately $600,000 per year. Including extension options, we have no debt maturities until the end of 2026, and our staggered maturity schedule will ensure we do not face a significant maturity wall at any point thereafter. Additionally, our fixed charge coverage ratio remains a very healthy 4.7 times. Now turning to some of our financial highlights for Q3. We reported Q3 FFO of $0.45 per share, which increased 3% from Q3 last year.
Speaker #2: Our new borrowing rate on term loans is silver plus 95 basis points . And on the revolver , it's Sofr plus 85 basis points .
Speaker #2: This will improve Aflw by approximately $600,000 per year , including extension options . We have no debt maturities until the end of 2026 , and our staggered maturity schedule will ensure we do not face a significant maturity level at any point thereafter .
Speaker #2: Additionally, our fixed charge coverage ratio remains a very healthy 4.7 times. Now, turning to some of our financial highlights for Q3.
Speaker #2: We reported Q3 AFO of $0.45 per share, which increased 3% from Q3 last year. Q3 cash rental income was $66.1 million, representing growth of 12.6% for the quarter compared to last year.
Patrick Wernig: Q3 cash rental income was $66.1 million, representing growth of 12.6% for the quarter compared to last year. Annualized cash-based rent for leases in place as of quarter end is $255.6 million, and our weighted average five-year annual cash rent escalator remains 1.4%. Cash G&A expense, excluding stock-based compensation, was $4.3 million, representing 6.5% of cash rental income for the quarter, compared to 6.9% for the quarter last year. This improved operating leverage illustrates our continued efforts at efficient growth and the benefits of our improving scale. We're still expecting cash G&A will be in our guidance range of $18 to $18.5 million for 2025. At this point, we're expecting to be towards the bottom end of that range.
Speaker #2: Annualized cash based rent for leases in place as of quarter end is $255.6 million , and our weighted average five year annual cash rent escalator remains 1.4% .
Speaker #2: Cash G&A expense, excluding stock-based compensation, was $4.3 million, representing 6.5% of cash rental income for the quarter, compared to 6.9% for the same quarter last year.
Speaker #2: This improved operating leverage illustrates our continued efforts at efficient growth and the benefits of our improving scale. We're still expecting cash DNA will be in our guidance range of $18 million to $18.5 million for 2025, but at this point, we're expecting to be towards the bottom end of that range as we're managing our lease maturity profile.
Patrick Wernig: As we're managing our lease maturity profile, we began with 41 leases expiring in 2025, and our team has made significant progress with 90% of those tenants extending their lease or indicating intent to do so, and even better, 95% occupied after including two properties that are already released to new tenants. Additionally, we've started to make progress on our 42 leases expiring in 2026, which now represent just 1.8% of AVR, down from 2.6% at the start of 2025. There were no material changes to our collectability or credit reserves, nor any balance sheet impairments. Our portfolio occupancy today remains strong as we've released several sites, improving to 99.5%, and we collected 99.9% of base rent for Q3. Last, we are also excited to share a meaningful new disclosure.
Speaker #2: We began with 41 leases expiring in 2025, and our team has made significant progress, with 90% of those tenants extending their lease or indicating intent to do so.
Speaker #2: And even better, we are 95% occupied after including two properties that have already been released to new tenants. Additionally, we have started to make progress on our 42 leases expiring in 2026.
Speaker #2: Now represent just 1.8% of ABR, down from 2.6% at the start of 2025. There were no material changes to our collectibility or credit reserves, nor any balance sheet impairments.
Speaker #2: Our portfolio occupancy today remains strong as we have released several sites improving to 99.5% , and we collected 99.9% of base rent for Q3 last .
Speaker #2: We are also excited to share a meaningful new disclosure . We've always focused on transparency , and in that vein , we've posted onto our website under the portfolio section , full list of all of our properties with accompanying data on brand , location , purchase price , square footage , and acreage .
Patrick Wernig: We've always focused on transparency, and in that vein, we've posted into our website under the portfolio section a full list of all of our properties with accompanying data on brand, location, purchase price, square footage, and acreage. We believe this level of transparency will help our investor community to better understand the quality of our portfolio and our exposure to all retail brands. Now, we'll turn it back over to Claire for questions.
Speaker #2: We believe this level of transparency will help our investor community to better understand the quality of our portfolio and our exposure to all retail brands. We'll turn it back over to Claire for questions.
Speaker #1: Thank you . To ask a question , please press star , followed by one on your telephone keypad . Now , if you change your mind , please press star , followed by two .
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Speaker #5: Hi . Good morning out there . Bill , first one for you here . Just on underwriting standards . You know , you have pretty strict underwriting standards .
[Analyst 1]: Hi, good morning out there. Bill, first one for you here, just on underwriting standards. You have pretty strict underwriting standards, and we've walked through the process before. I'm sure it's a somewhat iterative process as you develop that. I'm curious, as you're curating your portfolio today, are there any standards or sort of guidelines that you're working with that you may see you'd be willing to adjust that might open up your investment aperture and allow you to increase acquisitions from here?
Speaker #5: And we've walked through the process before and I'm sure it's a somewhat iterative process . As you you develop that . But I'm curious as you're curating your portfolio today , are there any standards or sort of guidelines that you're working with that you may , you know , see , you'd be willing to adjust that might open up your your investment aperture and allow you to increase acquisitions from here .
Speaker #3: It's a great question . I don't really foresee us lowering the scores that we pursue . There's always things at the individual brand level that we're following that informs , you know , the veracity of the scores , such as Starbucks , closing stores , things like that .
Bill Lenehan: It's a great question. I don't really foresee us lowering the scores that we pursue. There are always things at the individual brand level that we're following that inform, you know, the veracity of the scores, such as Starbucks closing stores, things like that. I think we're sticking with having a high-quality portfolio. Really, from our perspective, it's the cost of capital that, you know, informs the purchase price, which drives the volume of acquisitions primarily. As Pat mentioned, because we were active on our forward at a stock price north of $28, we were in a great position there.
Speaker #3: But I think we're sticking with having a high quality portfolio and really , from our perspective , it's the cost of capital that , you know , informs the purchase price , which drives the volume of acquisitions primarily .
Speaker #3: And as Pat mentioned, because we were active on our forward at a stock price north of $28, we were in a great position there.
Speaker #5: Okay . Very helpful . And then , Pat , you talked about this earlier . There's about a 100 million left on the forward .
[Analyst 1]: Okay, very helpful. Pat, you talked about this earlier. There's about $100 million left on the forward. Given where your cost of equity is today and where cap rates are today, let's say those were to hold somewhat constant into 2026, how would you think about funding your pipeline?
Speaker #5: You know , given where your cost of equity is today and where cap rates are today , let's say those were to hold somewhat constant into 26 .
Speaker #5: How would you think about funding your pipeline?
Speaker #3: Yeah, I'll take that question. I think the 100 should be added to that. We use the number 270 twice in our remarks.
Bill Lenehan: Yeah, I'll take that question. I think the 100, you should add to that. We use the number 270 twice in our remarks. I would add to the 100, 170 of debt capacity and retained free cash flow. That gives us, you know, a substantial amount of acquisition capacity. I think we'll probably be good at that for the comment.
Speaker #3: I would add to the 100 , 170 debt capacity and retain free cash flow so that gives us , you know , a substantial amount of acquisition capacity .
Speaker #3: And I think we'll probably leave it at that for the comment .
Speaker #5: Very helpful . Thank you .
[Analyst 1]: Very helpful. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you . Our next question comes from Michael Goldsmith from UBS . Michael , your line is now open . Please go ahead .
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Michael Goldsmith from UBS. Michael, your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Good morning . Thanks a lot for taking my question . Bill , you said in the prepared remarks , or at least you called out the pipeline .
[Analyst 2]: Good morning. Thanks a lot for taking my question. Bill, you said in the prepared remarks that you or at least you called out the pipeline, you called out acquisition opportunities and improved debt market dry powder. Can you assess the environment overall? It seems like it's very cooperative and favorable. What would be your willingness to kind of accelerate activity just given the backdrop that you described?
Speaker #6: You called out acquisition opportunities and improved debt market dry powder . You know , I guess like , can you assess the environment overall ?
Speaker #6: It seems like it's very cooperative and favorable . And you know , what would be your willingness to kind of accelerate activity ? Just given given the backdrop that you described ?
Speaker #3: Yeah , I think you've got it right . We have super capable team , our acquisition team is , you know , bigger and and more trained up and experienced than we've ever had .
Bill Lenehan: Yeah, I think you've got it right. We have a super capable team. Our acquisition team is bigger and more trained up and experienced than we've ever had. They've been very successful sourcing acquisitions. We want to make sure what we buy is accretive. We've modulated our acquisition volume based upon our cost of capital in the past. As I mentioned, we have a long runway before we need to consider that. It's been very fortunate that we raised a ton of equity when our stock price was attractive to do so, and we didn't originate debt at higher rates.
Speaker #3: They've been very successful sourcing acquisitions, but we want to make sure what we buy is accretive. So, we've modulated our acquisition volume based upon our cost of capital.
Speaker #3: In the past, as I mentioned, we have a long runway before we need to consider that. And it's been very fortunate that we raised a ton of equity when our stock price was attractive to do so.
Speaker #3: And we didn't originate debt at higher rates . So now we're in a great position where we can use our forward again North of $28 a share , our forward equity and we can raise debt in a much more favorable market at a cost of funds that's , you know , probably 150 basis points or more below where it could have been had we , you know , relied on debt in the past .
Bill Lenehan: Now we're in a great position where we can use our forward, again, north of $28 a share, our forward equity, and we can raise debt in a much more favorable market at a cost of funds that's probably 150 basis points or more below where it could have been had we relied on debt in the past. In essence, I'd look at our balance sheet as being slightly overequitized right now, which we can get back into balance and have very accretive acquisitions because of that.
Speaker #3: So, in essence, I look at our balance sheet as being slightly over equities right now, which we can get back into balance and have very creative acquisitions because of that.
Speaker #6: Thanks for that , bill . And then my second question relates to Darden . You you're calling out the you know , the first year of Darden spin off lease maturities is in 2027 .
[Analyst 2]: Thanks for that, Bill. My second question relates to Darden. You're calling out the first year of Darden spin-off lease maturities is in 2027. At the same time, you did identify that the same-store sales at some of these Darden brands have remained really strong. Does that give you increased confidence in their interest in renewing leases? I'm sure you have conversations with them regularly, but just trying to get a sense of how the temperature of that has evolved through the year as you start to have those conversations next year in anticipation of these maturities.
Speaker #6: And at the same time, you did identify that the same-store sales at some of these Darden brands have remained really strong. So, does that give you increased confidence in their interest in renewing leases?
Speaker #6: I'm sure you have conversations with them regularly , but just trying to get a sense of , you know , how the temperature of that has evolved through the year .
Speaker #6: And , you know , as you start to have those conversations next year in anticipation of these maturities , thanks .
Speaker #3: Sure . Yeah . Our expectations as you mentioned , are for very high renewal rates . They're very well covered leases . These are , you know , dramatically higher revenue sites than the average casual dining restaurant .
Bill Lenehan: Sure. Yeah, our expectations, as you mentioned, are for very high renewal rates. They're very well-covered leases. These are dramatically higher revenue sites than the average casual dining restaurant. Darden has done an exceptional job navigating increased food prices, and there's a ton of value in Darden's menu right now. I would argue there's a ton of value in Brinker's menu, and they're taking share not just from casual dining, but they're taking the fast casual and QSR customer because their pricing is now right above where, certainly fast casual, but even QSR pricing would be. There's just a lot of value in their menu. These sites have been curated at spin to be the sites that they're very committed to. Rents are set very low.
Speaker #3: Darden has done an exceptional job navigating increased food prices, and so there's a ton of value in Darden's menu right now. I would argue there's a ton of value in Brinker's menu.
Speaker #3: And they're they're taking share , not just from casual dining , but they're taking the fast casual and QSR customer because they're pricing is now right above where certainly fast casual , but even QSR pricing would be .
Speaker #3: So there's just a lot of value in their menu . So , you know , these sites have been , you know , curated at spin to be the sites that they're very committed to .
Speaker #3: Rents are set very low coverage on the Darden assets is , you know , twice what you would expect . And so and in many of these , you know , buildings have been in operation since the late 80s , early 90s .
Bill Lenehan: Coverage on the Darden assets is twice what you would expect, and many of these buildings have been in operation since the late 1980s, early 1990s. They are core locations, irreplaceable locations with low rents. We would expect very high renewal.
Speaker #3: So they are , you know , core locations , irreplaceable locations with low rents . So we would expect , you know , very high rental .
Speaker #6: Thank you very much. Good luck in the fourth quarter.
[Analyst 2]: Thank you very much. Good luck in the fourth quarter.
Speaker #3: Thank you .
Bill Lenehan: Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Anthony Paolone from JP Morgan. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Anthony Paolone from JPMorgan. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #7: Hi . Thanks . Your six eight cap rates have been pretty consistent all year . And you talked about not having any real desire to change your scoring .
[Analyst 2]: Thanks. Your 6-8% cap rates have been pretty consistent all year, and you talked about not having any real desire to change your scoring, but just wondering, you know, if you wanted to go to, say, 7.25%, what would those deals start to look like versus everything you've been doing all year?
Speaker #7: But just wondering if you wanted to go to , say , seven and a quarter . What would those deals start to look like versus everything you've been doing all year ?
Speaker #3: I think the distinction between six , eight and 700 quarters , probably too fine . So if you give me permission , I'll I'll answer the question .
Bill Lenehan: I think the distinction between 6-8 and 7 and a quarter is probably too fine. If you give me permission, I'll answer the question, you know, in the 7, 7.5 range. I think you'd start seeing assets outside of traditional net lease. Things that are either experiential, like pickleball facilities or Topgolf. I think you'd start seeing things like obviously challenged brands like Ponderosa or other things like that, you know, brands that haven't been opening new units for a long time. I think you'd see things like manufacturing facilities. You'd see medical, more office versus the medical retail that we focus on, or you'd see things like it's the tenant that you might see us buy, but it's not a retail use. Maybe it's a storage facility or a corporate office, that sort of thing.
Speaker #3: You know , in the seven , seven , five range , I think you'd start seeing I think you'd start seeing assets outside of traditional net lease .
Speaker #3: So, things that are either experiential, like pickleball facilities or Topgolf, I think you'd start seeing things like, obviously, challenged brands like Ponderosa or other things like that.
Speaker #3: You know , brands that haven't been opening new units for a long time . I think you'd see things like manufacturing facilities . You'd see medical more office versus the medical retail that we focus on , or you'd see things like it's the tenant that you might see us buy , but it's not a retail use .
Speaker #3: So maybe it's a storage facility or an office . Corporate office , that sort of thing . So we see tons of things at higher cap rates .
Bill Lenehan: We see tons of things at higher cap rates and obviously lots of things at cap rates where we're not competitive. Our scoring system really allows us to be dispassionate and analytical in how we approach it. We definitely don't, sort of, calculate our WAC at a spread and say, "Josh, go out and find things at that cap rate, and we'll hold our nose and buy them." By being disciplined, that's why for a decade, our occupancy and collections have been so strong.
Speaker #3: And obviously, there are lots of things that cap rates where we're not competitive, and our scoring system really allows us to be dispassionate and analytical in how we approach it.
Speaker #3: And we we definitely don't sort of calculate our WACC at a spread and say , Josh , go out and find things that that cap rate and we'll hold our nose and buy them by being disciplined .
Speaker #3: That's why, for a decade, our occupancy and collections have been so strong.
Speaker #7: Okay . And then I think in your comments , Bill , you maybe alluded to just looking at lots of different things and does that suggest that that you're considering some stuff outside of auto restaurant or medical or just broadening out kind of within those categories ?
[Analyst 2]: Okay. I think in your comments, Bill, you may have alluded to just looking at lots of different things. Does that suggest that you're considering some stuff outside of auto, restaurant, or medical, or just broadening out kind of within those categories?
Speaker #3: Yeah , we're always looking for other categories to explore . As you look over the last ten years , our willingness to expand beyond restaurants has allowed us to safely grow faster .
Bill Lenehan: Yeah, we're always looking for other categories to explore. As you know, over the last 10 years, our willingness to expand beyond restaurants has allowed us to safely grow faster. We're always looking for new ideas. The world evolves. You have to be willing to consider new things. Nothing to announce on this call, but it's something that we're continually looking at.
Speaker #3: We're always looking for new ideas . You know , the world evolves . You have to be willing to consider new things . Nothing to announce on this call , but it's something that we're continually looking at .
Speaker #7: Okay . Thank you .
[Analyst 2]: Okay, thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Mitch Germain from Citizens. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Mitch Germain from Citizens. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #8: Thanks , Bill . Congrats on ten years and I think my question is , looking back , I mean , obviously you you've diversified revenues gone into new sectors , but as your core underwriting principles remain somewhat consistent .
[Analyst 2]: Thanks. Bill, congrats on 10 years. I think my question is looking back. Obviously, you've diversified revenues, gone into new sectors, but have your core underwriting principles remained somewhat consistent, or have you been kind of tweaking that as the environment changes?
Speaker #8: Or have you been kind of tweaking that as the environment changes ?
Speaker #3: Well , thanks for the question , Mitch . I think you were the first research analyst to cover us ten years ago . It's been a great ten years .
Bill Lenehan: Thanks for the question, Mitch. I think you were the first research analyst to cover us 10 years ago. It's been a great 10 years. I think the answer is our basic premise is very similar from the beginning. We are not, you know, volume-driven. We are not trying to scale at all costs. We try to be conservative. We try to be analytical. I would say that over 10 years, the amount of institutional knowledge that we have has grown substantially. We tend to bring people in the acquisition group now as interns. When they're in undergrad, they come to our firm after graduation. We've instituted a very formal training program. I frankly think it's an exceptional training program. We're bringing people to the firm, training them, giving them exposure to lots of acquisitions, small dollars, but lots of swings at the bat.
Speaker #3: I think the answer is our basic premise is very similar from the beginning. We are not, you know, volume driven.
Speaker #3: We are not trying to scale at all costs . We try to be conservative . We try to be analytical . But I would say that over ten years , the amount of institutional knowledge that we have has grown substantially and we tend to bring people in the acquisition group now , as interns , when they're in undergrad , they come to our firm , you know , after graduation , and we've instituted a very formal training program .
Speaker #3: I frankly think it's an exceptional training program . We're we're , you know , we're bringing people to the firm , training them , giving them exposure to lots of acquisitions , small dollars .
Speaker #3: But we've had lots of swings at the bat, and I've been very impressed by the quality of people we've been able to attract over the last ten years.
Bill Lenehan: I've been very impressed by the quality of people we've been able to attract over the last 10 years. There's no question that I would have no chance of getting an internship at Four Corners Property Trust Inc. today.
Speaker #3: There's no question that I would have no chance of getting an internship at Four Corners today.
Speaker #8: Appreciate that context . Just curious about Starbucks . I mean , in in prior , prior , you know , issues that some of your tenants have had , you guys seem to be coming out of many of these situations with little disruption .
[Analyst 2]: Appreciate that context. Just curious about Starbucks. In prior issues that some of your tenants have had, you guys seem to be coming out of many of these situations with little disruption. Obviously, that's a tenant of yours, not that big in terms of size, but clearly, they're going through some sort of reorg plan. Is any of that expected to hit your portfolio?
Speaker #8: Obviously, that's a tenant of yours. Not that big in terms of size, but clearly they're going through some sort of reorg plan.
Speaker #8: Is any of that expected to hit your portfolio?
Speaker #3: We don't think so. A lot of the things that are closing are Starbucks that don't have drive-thrus and Starbucks that are in urban areas.
Bill Lenehan: We don't think so. A lot of the things that are closing are Starbucks that don't have drive-throughs and Starbucks that are in urban areas. As Pat mentioned, we put on our website a list, it's, I think, 31 pages long, of every single tenant. You can follow along at an extremely granular level. Starbucks is a great example of the idea that you need to think for yourself when investing. I think a lot of people bought Starbucks with very low cap rates. Starbucks often have a kickout in year five of their lease, and while they're marketed as having long lease term, the tenant has the ability to leave. That's why they're able to do so many of these closures, Mitch. We have been cautious on Starbucks. We've been cautious on Starbucks that don't have drive-throughs, especially.
Speaker #3: But as Pat mentioned, we put on our website a list, I think 31 pages long, of every single tenant. So you can follow along at an extremely granular level.
Speaker #3: But Starbucks is a great example of the idea that you need to think for yourself when investing. I think a lot of people bought Starbucks with very low cap rates.
Speaker #3: Starbucks often have a kick out in year five of their lease , and so while they're marketed as having long lease term , the tenant has the ability to leave .
Speaker #3: That's why they're able to do so many of these closures . Mitch . So we have been cautious on Starbucks . We've been cautious on Starbucks that don't have drive thrus , especially .
Speaker #8: Great. Thanks for that, and I look forward to the next ten years.
[Analyst 2]: Great. Thanks for that. I look forward to the next 10 years.
Speaker #3: Absolutely .
Bill Lenehan: Absolutely.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Rich Hightower from Barclays. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Rich Hightower from Barclays. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #6: Hey , guys . Good morning out there . And I apologize . I joined the call a little bit late from another call , but I guess just to follow up , maybe on the Darden , you know , upcoming , I guess the dual option , you know , where do you sort of peg market rents for those properties and how do you how do you sort of set the balance in that negotiation coming up between , you know , obviously very high coverage , which we're all very comfortable with , and maybe getting a little more rent from a higher performing space .
[Analyst 2]: Hey, guys. Good morning out there. I apologize, I joined the call a little bit late from another call. I guess just to follow up maybe on the Darden upcoming renewal option, you know, where do you sort of peg market rents for those properties? How do you sort of set the balance in that negotiation coming up between, you know, obviously very high coverage, which we're all very comfortable with, and maybe getting a little more rent from a higher-performing space?
Speaker #3: Yeah . So just to be clear , the those leases Darden has and the lease is public , it's in our spin disclosure .
Bill Lenehan: Yeah. Just to be clear, those leases Darden has, and the lease is public. It's in our spin disclosure. It's 10 years ago, but our lease is public. The way it works is Darden has an option to renew for five years at the 1.5% annual rent growth that the entire portfolio has. They have to tell us a year in advance. If they don't tell us, we have plenty of time to release the building. Their rental rate is accreted by 1.5% from the then-in-place rental rate. The negotiation is actually not nearly as involved as a site-by-site, you know, what's the rent sort of argument.
Speaker #3: So, it's ten years. But the lease is public. The way it works is Darden has an option to renew for five years at the 1.5% annual rent growth that the entire portfolio has. They have to tell us a year in advance.
Speaker #3: So if they don't tell us , we have plenty of time to release the building . But their rental rate is accreted by 1.5% for the from the then in place rental rate .
Speaker #3: So the negotiation is actually not nearly as involved as a site by site . You know , what's the rent sort of argument .
Speaker #6: Okay . That's all I appreciate that . I mean , do you I guess in a , in a different world or a different structure , would you assume that market rents are significantly higher ?
[Analyst 2]: Okay. That's all. I appreciate that. I mean, do you, I guess, in a different world or a different structure, would you assume that market rents are significantly higher, I guess, given some of the underlying revenue growth at those properties? Or am I barking up the wrong tree on that?
Speaker #6: I guess , given the given some of the the underlying revenue growth that those properties are barking up the wrong tree on that ?
Speaker #3: No , I think you're right . You know , the rents were set quite reasonably . The locations are extraordinarily strong . And in the last ten years , replacement cost has gone up very , very substantially .
Bill Lenehan: No, I think you're right. The rents were set quite reasonably. The locations are extraordinarily strong. In the last 10 years, replacement cost has gone up very, very substantially. The tenant has four or five-year extension rates at that 1.5%. I would just view it as being a very high likelihood that they're going to renew.
Speaker #3: But the tenant has , you know , 4 or 5 , five year extension rates at that 1.5% . So , you know , I would just view it as being a very high likelihood that they're going to renew .
Speaker #6: Okay . Got it . That's great . And then I guess more , more broadly , I think a lot of your peers are probably getting the same question this quarter .
[Analyst 2]: Okay. Got it. That's great. I guess more broadly, you know, I think a lot of your peers are probably getting the same question this quarter, just maybe some broader commentary on the level of competition, the breadth, and the depths of, you know, given some of these new private capital pools that have been raised, targeting net lease specifically, you know, who are you running into on deals and what's your take there?
Speaker #6: But just maybe some broader commentary on the level of competition , the breadth and the depth of given some of these new private capital pools that have been raised targeting net leased specifically , you know , who are you running into on deals and what's your take there ?
Speaker #3: Yeah . So our you know , we've always looked at larger transactions in the last ten years . We've done a handful of them .
Bill Lenehan: Yeah. Our, you know, we've always looked at larger transactions in the last 10 years. We've done a handful of them. Our business model is not predicated on waiting for a call that there's a $150 million portfolio or a $400 million portfolio out there. We're always working on something, but that's not our business model. We do do those, as I mentioned, but we, as you can tell from our press release regime, we're doing $3 million one-off acquisitions as well. I'm happy that we don't rely on those larger transactions. As you inferred in your question, I think it's right. There's more competition from private equity folks who are pretty aggressive and, you know, want to scale and have sort of mandates to scale, which is typically not a very wise thing in investing, but that's where they stand.
Speaker #3: But our business model is not predicated on waiting for a call that there's $150 million portfolio or a $400 million portfolio out there .
Speaker #3: We're always working on something , but that's not our our business model . We do do those . As I mentioned , but we , as you can tell from our press release regime , we're doing $3 million , one off acquisitions as well .
Speaker #3: And so I'm happy that we don't rely on those larger transactions, as you inferred in your question. I think that's right.
Speaker #3: There's more competition from private equity folks who are pretty aggressive and, you know, want to scale and have sort of mandates to scale, which is typically not a very wise thing in investing.
Speaker #3: But but that's where they they stand . So we we feel very comfortable that we can execute our business plan have been executing our business plan in our , you know , very wide aperture of how we source deals , everything from big portfolios down to , you know , million dollar one offs .
Bill Lenehan: We feel very comfortable that we can execute our business plan, have been executing our business plan in our, you know, very wide aperture of how we source deals, everything from big portfolios down to, you know, million-dollar one-offs. If we were solely looking at portfolios, I think that would be of concern. That's not where we stand today.
Speaker #3: But if we were solely looking at portfolios, I think that would be a concern. But that's not where we stand today.
Speaker #6: All right. Great. Very helpful. Thank you.
[Analyst 2]: All right. Great. Very helpful. Thank you.
Speaker #1: Thank you. Our next question comes from Wes Golladay from Bard. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Operator: Thank you. Our next question comes from Wes Golladay from Baird. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.
Speaker #9: Hey good morning guys . With the cost of equity where it is today , I know you have the free cash flow and the debt capacity , but as we look a little further out , would you have any appetite to increase dispositions ?
[Analyst 2]: Hey, good morning, guys. With the cost of equity where it is today, I know you have the free cash from the debt capacity, but as we look a little further out, would you have any appetite to increase dispositions?
Speaker #3: You know, we've done very little in terms of dispositions. It's something we can think about. You know, our portfolio is in really good shape.
Bill Lenehan: We've done very little dispositions. It's something we can think about. Our portfolio is in really good shape, so you'd largely be selling things that are very high quality. We fortunately don't have the dynamic that you've seen with a lot of REITs that do dispositions where they're trying to sell assets that are likely to underperform going forward in order to upgrade their portfolio. Our portfolio is almost all very, very strong. We'd consider it. We know how to do it. We've done it in the past, in very particular circumstances. I don't think that that's top of mind for us today.
Speaker #3: So you're largely be selling things that are very high quality . So we fortunately don't have the dynamic that you've seen with a lot of rates that do dispositions where they're trying to sell assets that are , you know , likely to underperform going forward in order to upgrade their portfolio .
Speaker #3: Our portfolio is all is almost all very , very strong . We'd consider it . We know how to do it . We've done it in the past .
Speaker #3: It was very particular circumstances, but I don't think that that's top of mind for us today.
Speaker #9: Okay. And I think you pretty much essentially asked my next one. I was going to see if there's been any change to the watch list of tenants that you're looking at, but does it sound like there's much there of a watch list?
[Analyst 2]: Okay. I think you pretty much essentially asked my next one. I was going to see if there's been any change to the watchlist of tenants that you're looking at, but it doesn't sound like there's much there of a watchlist.
Speaker #3: There isn't . We're we're in great shape , and if you if , you know , we've actually increased occupancy and we have very few , you know , unleashed buildings .
Bill Lenehan: There isn't. We're in great shape. We've actually increased occupancy, and we have very few unleased buildings. Justin and the asset management team have done a great job leasing up some of the few ones that aren't tenanted. We're in great shape. Actually, because of replacement costs going up so much, tenants are coming to us proactively on opportunities to either re-tenant one of our few vacant properties, even coming to us and saying, "If you could get this lesser tenant out of the space, we'd love to take it," which is a reflection of where, as I mentioned, replacement cost has gone.
Speaker #3: But Justin and the asset management team have done a great job leasing up the some of the few ones that are tenanted . So yeah , we're in great shape and actually because of replacement costs going up so much , tenants are coming to us proactively on opportunities to either retenant at one of our few vacant properties .
Speaker #3: But even coming to us and saying, "If you could get this lesser tenant out of the space, we'd love to take it."
Speaker #3: Which is a reflection of where, as I mentioned, replacement cost has gone.
Speaker #9: Are you seeing anything with your existing tenants that have renewals? I know you don't have that many, but maybe looking to pull.
[Analyst 2]: Are you seeing anything with your existing tenants that have renewals? I know you don't have that many, but maybe look at the pool.
Speaker #3: You dropped off there at the end. Can you restate the question?
Bill Lenehan: You dropped off there at the end. Can you restate the question?
Speaker #9: Oh , I was saying like , are you seeing anything where your existing tenants I know you don't have a lot of tenant renewals coming due , but with the tenant may want to pull forward a renewal just to get , you know , prices locked in .
[Analyst 2]: Are you seeing anything where your existing tenants, I know you don't have a lot of tenant renewals coming due, but where the tenant may want to pull forward a renewal just to get prices locked in?
Speaker #3: You know , most of the time that their renewal options are contractual . So , you know , they have a cadence where they know when they need to renew by and you typically get it , you know , right before their renewal .
Bill Lenehan: Most of the time, their renewal options are contractual. They have a cadence where they know when they need to renew by, and you typically get it right before their renewal. They can sort of make that decision internally, but they don't have to notify us typically until a year or six months before the lease is up.
Speaker #3: So they can sort of make that decision internally, but they don't have to notify us, typically until a year or six months before the lease is up.
Speaker #9: Okay . Thank you .
[Analyst 2]: Okay, thank you.
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Speaker #10: Thank you . You know , Bill speaking to your long tenure in many of these assets and your experience in these three main silos , you know , competition is always coming and going .
[Analyst 2]: Thank you. You know, Bill, speaking to your long tenure with many of these assets and your experience in these three main silos, competition is always coming and going, but I think this new property disclosure you provide is very interesting. Is there an opportunity for you to densify a number of your locations? I mean, it looks like they have pretty solid acreage relative to the improved size, improved building square footage. Is that not really viable? I'm just curious.
Speaker #10: But, you know, I think this new property disclosure provides very interesting opportunities. Is there an opportunity for you to densify a number of your locations?
Speaker #10: I mean , it looks like they have pretty solid acreage relative to the improved size , improved buildings , square footage . Is that not really viable ?
Speaker #10: Just curious .
Speaker #3: Yeah, its acreage is one of the components of our scorecard. And while obviously the building envelope is important, typically acreage ties to parking, and having highly parked locations greatly increases leasing opportunities.
Bill Lenehan: Yeah. Acreage is one of the components of our scorecard, and while obviously building envelope is important, typically acreage ties to parking. Yep. Having highly parked locations greatly increases releasing opportunity. What can often happen if you're not careful is you buy a building that is poorly parked or has ambiguous parking, relies on, let's say, a neighbor not enforcing their parking situation. Those become difficult to release. We do focus on it. It's part of our scorecard, both parking and acreage. That said, I think the opportunity to go to our tenants and say, "We'd like to negotiate with you for an additional use," is limited. The advantage comes in protecting the downside probably more than upside potential, to be honest about it. That's exactly the kind of thing that you can do with this additional disclosure. You know, hopefully we'll answer questions before they come up.
Speaker #3: What can often happen if you're not careful is you buy a building that is poorly parked or has ambiguous parking, and relies on.
Speaker #3: Let's say , a neighbor , not enforcing their their parking situation and those become difficult to release . So we we do focus on it as part of our scorecard .
Speaker #3: Both parking and acreage. That said, I think the opportunity to go to our tenants and say we'd like to negotiate with you for an additional use is limited.
Speaker #3: The advantage comes in protecting the downside, probably more than the upside potential, to be honest about it. But that's exactly the kind of thing that you can do with this additional disclosure.
Speaker #3: You know , hopefully we'll answer questions before they come up and I think the shareholders that , you know , we've we've talked through it , appreciate the level of transparency .
Bill Lenehan: I think the shareholders that you know we've talked through it appreciate the level of transparency.
Speaker #10: I appreciate it. Thank you. Bill.
[Analyst 2]: Yep. Appreciate it. Thank you, Bill.
Speaker #6: Yep .
Speaker #1: Thank you. We currently have no further questions, so we'll hand back to Bill for closing remarks.
Bill Lenehan: Yep.
Operator: Thank you. We currently have no further questions, so I'll hand back to Bill for closing remarks.
Speaker #3: Thank you . Claire . In summary , the portfolio remains resilient and unique . Small and fungible buildings leased to sophisticated national operators with scale , which have proven resilient in uncertain times .
Bill Lenehan: Thank you, Claire. In summary, the portfolio remains resilient and unique. Small and fungible buildings lease to sophisticated national operators with scale, which have proven resilient in uncertain times. We have evidence that strong track records through extremely low bad debt expense, strong occupancy, and collection rates. FCPT has shown to be sensitive to our cost of capital by modulating capital raising and investment when necessary. We believe that FCPT is in a very strong position to continue to execute our strategy no matter the near-term market conditions. Having over $270 million of dry powder, it has been a productive decade, and we are exceptionally well positioned to continue to execute for our shareholders. Thank you.
Speaker #3: We have evidence that a strong track record through extremely low bad debt expense, strong occupancy, and collection rates has shown to be sensitive to our cost of capital by modulating capital raising and investment.
Speaker #3: When necessary, we believe that Four Corners Property Trust is in a very strong position to continue to execute our strategy, no matter the near-term market conditions.
Speaker #3: Having over $270 million of dry powder, it has been a productive decade, and we are exceptionally well positioned to continue to execute for our shareholders.
Speaker #3: Thank you .
Operator: This concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.