Q4 2025 Global Medical REIT Inc Earnings Call
Speaker #3: Good day , and welcome to the Global Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Call . All participants will be in a listen only mode should you need assistance , please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key , followed by zero .
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Speaker #3: Then two . Please note this event is being recorded . I would now like to turn the conference over to Jamie Barber Global Medical REIT , General Counsel .
Speaker #3: Please go ahead .
Speaker #4: Good morning , everyone , and welcome to Global Medical REIT third quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call . My name is Jamie Barber and I'm Global Medical REIT .
Speaker #4: General counsel on the call today are Mark Decker Jr . Chief executive officer Alfonzo Leon chief investment officer Danica Holley . Chief operating officer .
Speaker #4: And Bob Kiernan chief financial officer . Statements or comments made on this conference call may be forward looking statements . Forward looking statements may include , but are not necessarily limited to , financial projections or other statements of the company's plans , objectives , expectations or intentions .
Speaker #4: These matters involve certain risks and uncertainties . The company's actual results may differ significantly from those projected or suggested from any forward looking statements .
Speaker #4: Due to a variety of factors which are discussed in detail in our SEC filings . Additionally , on this call , the company may refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures .
Speaker #4: You can find a tabular reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable GAAP numbers in the company's earnings release and in filings with the SEC.
Speaker #4: Additional information may be found on the Investor Relations page of the company's website at Global Medical REIT . I would now I would now like to turn the call over to Mark .
Speaker #5: Thank you . Jamie . Good morning , everyone , and thank you for joining us today as we share the results of our first full quarter together as a management team .
Speaker #5: As you review our materials , I hope you'll find growing evidence of our focus on driving shareholder value . We're going to achieve this by delivering internal earnings growth , demonstrating disciplined capital allocation and capital markets acumen , and executing on external growth opportunities when they present themselves .
Speaker #5: The team was highly productive on each of these fronts during the third quarter . The portfolio performed well , posting 2.7% same store NOI growth .
Speaker #5: This is our first quarter reporting on this key metric and an improved focus on property performance will help our asset management team deliver stronger and more consistent results on the balance sheet .
Speaker #5: We were able to address our upcoming debt maturities by recasting the revolver to 2029 and extending our loan , a and dividing the term loan into three distinct loans .
Speaker #5: While extending our weighted average debt term by three years . Thanks again to our lending group and great work by our finance team in investments .
Speaker #5: Alfonso and team have built a pipeline of highly desirable opportunities , which we will only act upon with a green light from the market .
Speaker #5: Our current cost of capital dictates that we will remain disciplined , pursuing only our highest conviction , ideas and funding those transactions with proceeds from asset recycling .
Speaker #5: But we hope that will soon change . More broadly , our full team is in the midst of developing a $350 million term strategic plan to deliver outsized shareholder return in the years ahead .
Speaker #5: We're excited to share more when we're able to the whole , it's been an outstanding first four months as a new team . I'm appreciative to everyone for their pedal to the metal efforts .
Speaker #5: The journey is just beginning , but I'm ecstatic with our progress so far . Before passing the call to Bob , I'd like to comment on the large outpatient medical transaction .
Speaker #5: Recently announced by one of our public sector peers . First , the transaction demonstrates the meaningful institutional demand that exists for healthcare infrastructure assets , a huge plus for our existing owners .
Speaker #5: Second , we've been asked by many investors for a read through on the mark to market value of our own real estate , which is a fair question .
Speaker #5: Second , we've been asked by many investors for a read through on the mark to market value of our own real estate , which is a fair question .
Speaker #5: Answering that On question requires agreement on what defines quality . We believe that quality assets are those that deliver cash flows , that are predictable , reliable and growing .
Speaker #5: By that yardstick , we like our portfolio quite a bit . The portfolio is 95% leased , with over five years of remaining .
Speaker #5: Walt . Our leases have an embedded annual escalator of 2.1% , and this quarter's 2.7% . Same store print is repeatable and achieved without any carve outs for redevelopments or assets that we don't wish to count .
Speaker #5: We'll let others speak to what that means in terms of cap rate , but any reasonable assumptions would indicate that we trade at a substantial discount to the fair value of our assets .
Speaker #5: Bob , can you please run through the numbers ? Thank you . Mark . During the quarter we delivered .
Speaker #4: Funds from operations . of $14.5 million . or $1 .
Speaker #6: Per share , in unit adjusted funds from operations , which excludes straight line rent , among other noncash and non-recurring items , with 16.2 million , or $1.12 per share in unit .
Speaker #6: Each of these metrics grew 4% on a per share basis relative to the prior year . Equivalent . Year to date funds available for distribution , which accounts for CapEx , tenant improvements , and leasing commissions , totaled $39.2 million , resulting in a payout ratio of 84% .
Speaker #6: At our current annual dividend rate in October , we amended our credit facility to extend the term of our revolver to October 2029 and to extend the term of our $350 million term loan , a by breaking it up into three tranches with maturities ranging from October 2029 to April 2031 .
Speaker #6: The amendment also removed the ten basis points Sofr credit spread from all of our credit facility borrowings . We are extremely pleased with the execution of the facility amendment and would like to thank our lending group for their support and confidence in connection with the credit facility amendment .
Speaker #6: We entered into forward starting interest rate swaps to hedge the Sofr component of our term loan . A through its new maturity dates .
Speaker #6: Based on the current leverage levels , the weighted average fixed rate on these swaps will result in a weighted average effective interest rate of approximately 4.8% .
Speaker #6: It is important to note that our previously existing swaps on term loan A will remain in effect until the maturity in April of 2026 .
Speaker #6: As discussed last quarter , we are also looking to expand our sources of debt capital to include longer term debt providers such as insurance companies by diversifying our lender and tenor mix .
Speaker #6: We will improve the quality of our earnings and broaden our access to debt capital . This diversification , alongside our extended debt maturities and sound dividend coverage ratio , has fortified our balance sheet and marks an important step on our journey toward earning an investment grade credit rating .
Speaker #6: Danica .
Speaker #7: Thank you Bob . The third quarter was a productive one for our asset management team , headlined by same store NOI . Growth of 2.7% for our portfolio .
Speaker #7: This performance was supported by a positive year to date absorption and the successful releasing of our 85,000 square foot facility in Beaumont , Texas that was previously leased to Steward Health .
Speaker #7: Beyond Beaumont , we're seeing positive leasing outcomes across the portfolio as high construction costs have constrained new supply , enhancing our leverage when negotiating lease renewals .
Speaker #7: We disposed of two assets during the quarter , including 50,000 square foot freestanding health system administrative facility located in Aurora , Illinois . Following this disposition , our portfolio exposure to dedicated health system , administrative space is reduced to less than 2% of total ABR as of quarter end .
Speaker #7: The Gmer portfolio was 95.2% leased , with the remaining term of 5.3 years . We have strong visibility on our near-term leasing pipeline and expect occupancy to trend towards 96% at year end CapEx and leasing costs have totaled $9.7 million on a year to date basis , putting us in position to land within our full year guidance range of between 12 and 14 million .
Speaker #7: I would now like to turn the call over to Alfonso to discuss our investments . Alfonso .
Speaker #4: Thank you Danika . On the investment front .
Speaker #8: We have remained patient on new acquisitions in light of our cost of capital . Still , the team has been busy underwriting deals to keep an active pulse on the market , evaluating $11.5 billion in prospective transactions so far this year .
Speaker #8: This deal flow has provided us with a near-term pipeline of almost $500 million in potential deals at first year cash returns that blend to a 7.5 to 8% range .
Speaker #8: For now . Execution on those deals will be limited to those which we can fund via asset recycling , but our team remains ready to pounce on this attractive market opportunity once we receive a green light from the capital markets .
Speaker #8: Mark .
Speaker #5: Thanks, Alfonso. I've been involved in the outpatient medical sector since 2001, and I don't think the setup for our niche has ever been better.
Speaker #5: We're poised to benefit from increasing demand for outpatient services , rising construction costs that limit new supply and competitors that are either out of the game or have lots going on internally .
Speaker #5: GMA has the right team and skill set to drive FFO and fad earnings growth , especially if pricing power continues to come our way .
Speaker #5: That said , we know that we'll need to keep on executing to earn a currency that enables external growth , and we're ready and excited to do that work .
Speaker #5: Operator let's open it up for Q&A .
Speaker #9: Thank you .
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Speaker #3: Then two . At this time we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster . And your first question today will come from Wes Golladay with Baird .
Speaker #3: Please go ahead .
Speaker #10: Hey , good morning everyone . Have a question on the you talked about the positive leasing momentum . Can you talk about the pipeline of leases that you have signed but will still still need to commence rent over the next few quarters ?
Speaker #10: Would you have like an ABR number for that ?
Speaker #5: Hey , Wes .
Speaker #10: Good morning .
Speaker #5: I don't know that we have an exact number , but do you want to speak to that ?
Speaker #7: Yeah , I think in terms of an exact number . I'm not . I'm not super comfortable nailing that . Exactly down , but I would give you encouragement that the performance of the portfolio will continue to be consistent with what we've reported out this quarter .
Speaker #7: And that there's no surprises or any sort of bogeys in there . So I hope you're able to to sort of go from that .
Speaker #10: Okay . And then when you look at you mentioned about maybe sourcing insurance , debt , would you have a , I guess a framework for thinking about timing of when you may pursue that ?
Speaker #5: Yeah . Wes , I , I mean , honestly , I think it would be to our benefit to have it sooner rather than later .
Speaker #5: It's just another market and another place where we could get financing , and it allows us to go past five years . So , I mean , we have urgency around it , but I mean , the trick is it's sort of binary .
Speaker #5: We're either able to access the market or not , and and it comes down to the view of our credit . It it's our belief and expectation that that the counterparty will price us like kind of a triple B minus credit .
Speaker #5: And and so if and when we can get that , you know , as we work through it , we will . And if we can't we'll have to do a few things here and there to , to get ourselves in position for that , including possibly going to the agencies .
Speaker #5: But . But we feel like it's within reach to , to get that done .
Speaker #10: Okay . Thank you for the time .
Speaker #5: Thanks , Wes .
Speaker #3: And your next question today will come from Juan Sanabria with BMO Capital Markets . Please go ahead .
Speaker #11: Thank you . This is Robin sitting in for Juan . I was curious what drove the occupancy increase during the quarter . And then on top of that , is it the year end occupancy of 96% ?
Speaker #11: That is driving the sequential benefit to FFO in the fourth quarter or something else ?
Speaker #5: Yeah . On the good morning , Robin , on the occupancy , I mean , it was mainly just driven by selling the empty facility at Aurora .
Speaker #5: That's the that's the kind of math of it . And in terms of sequential Q4 , it's probably the benefit of Christmas . But I don't know .
Speaker #5: Bob , do you want to chime in ?
Speaker #12: From .
Speaker #6: From an occupancy perspective ? Q4 will have lease up in it . We've got a number of lease ups that are projected to to to come in during the fourth quarter from , from an earnings perspective , we'll continue .
Speaker #6: I think it is Christmas from from a property NOI perspective . You know , again , continuing that , you know , into the fourth quarter .
Speaker #6: This was our our our first full quarter , you know , with with that in the numbers . And we'll continue on that .
Speaker #12: Path .
Speaker #11: Thank you . And then on acquisition front , how low do you think leverage would have to get for you to look to flip to being a net acquirer .
Speaker #11: And in what scale could you possibly be a net net buyer ? Yeah .
Speaker #5: I think , Robin , for how low do we want the leverage our overall target leverage I'd say in the near term is is sub six times and .
Speaker #5: And ideally we could be in a spot where we could fund with permanent capital . And then , you know , put it on our line , take it off with permanent capital and some longer term debt would be an ideal state .
Speaker #5: We're not there today . I mean , if we had access to capital , I think we could easily put 2 to 500 million of external growth up per year .
Speaker #5: And that that would be mathematically compelling . I think . And as well as just improving the overall quality of the business . But for now , we're going to be kind of we're going to get a little bit a little bit less levered .
Speaker #5: Ideally, there will probably be funding from recycling.
Speaker #11: On the topic of recycling and deleveraging , here . Could you maybe just help us understand the quantum of assets you're considering selling and maybe like any rough expectations on on yields would be helpful .
Speaker #5: Yeah , it really depends on type . But I'd say we have some things that we think would sell in the in the low 60s .
Speaker #5: And others that we would put probably closer to seven . And we would be seeking to redeploy that kind of plus 100 to 200 basis points .
Speaker #5: You know , taking the two ends of those spectrums .
Speaker #11: Thank you .
Speaker #5: Thanks , Robin .
Speaker #3: And your next question today will come from Austin Wurschmidt with KeyBanc Capital Markets . Please go ahead .
Speaker #13: Yeah . Thanks . Good morning everyone . So Mark or Alfonso , you know , you highlighted the pipeline of acquisition opportunities . You know , as much as , you know , 500 million , that sort of meat that criteria in the seven and a half to 8% cap rate range .
Speaker #13: I mean , how big is the disposition pipeline today that you think that you could , you know , sort of execute on that , you know , maybe the the near term opportunity of capital recycling at a positive spread .
Speaker #5: I think near term its probably 50 to 100 and we could probably do you know , more . I mean , it all depends Austin , because we have to , you know , get the the sale .
Speaker #5: We like . And so it's a lot of it's a lot of triple Lindy's that we have to kind of pull off to get the sales and the buys .
Speaker #5: We like . But I mean , everything we have I think is saleable . It's just a question of trying to manage it all together .
Speaker #5: The leverage earnings and so forth . But I'd say we won't get at that 500 in full without some meaningful change . So my guess is my hope would be we'd get 20 to 40% of that done .
Speaker #13: That's helpful .
Speaker #5: I mean , pipelines , as you know , pipelines , as you know , evolve . So , you know , if we have something nailed down now , we can't move on it unless we have a sale .
Speaker #5: Pretty close to lined up .
Speaker #13: Yeah . Fair . Fair enough . Are are there other assets in that disposition pool that are under leased or , you know , the lease yield is meaningfully below or it kind of helps both deleverage as well as , you know , allows you to to reinvest at a positive spread .
Speaker #5: The more likely scenario is I'd say the under leased ones . Probably aren't as attractive as sale candidate . So our best sales will be , you know , well leased sort of sleep at night type items .
Speaker #5: And we actually probably will get I mean , the way our leverage is counted in our facility is actually on a gross book basis .
Speaker #5: So if we bought something for a dollar and we sold it for $1.50 as an example , we'd actually be chipping away a little bit more at our leverage just on the margin .
Speaker #5: So that would work kind of both ways for us . So yeah , I'd say there's a little of that possible , but it's more likely the the fuller assets , not the opportunistic ones .
Speaker #13: Appreciate it . And then maybe the last one you mentioned the teams in the early stages of developing a strategic plan , but I'm since you teased out the idea .
Speaker #13: Anything you can share for just the central tenants of the plan , kind of a high level .
Speaker #5: Yeah . I mean , honestly , the central tenants will be unsurprising to you . It'll be about capital allocation and balance sheet management and just execution .
Speaker #5: But so yeah , I guess I'd rather I guess I'd rather wait , but I , you know , I don't think there'll be a huge reveal .
Speaker #5: We're not going to start getting into the metal stamping business or anything like that , or data centers . We'll be focused in kind of what we would call healthcare infrastructure .
Speaker #13: Fair enough . Thanks for the time .
Speaker #5: Thank you .
Speaker #3: And the next question will come from Rob Stevenson with Janney . Please go ahead .
Speaker #14: Good morning guys . Bob , how much . So the the implied fourth quarter guidance is 113 to 123 . If I'm doing my math right , when you're taking a look at that sort of ten cent range , you know , you talked about lease UPS benefiting fourth quarter earnings , but is that basically the predominant driver or is there some other stuff in there because that's like 700,000 plus sequentially just to get you to the midpoint of that .
Speaker #6: I think it's a combination of things . Rob . But it's it's certainly I mean , it's some elements of , of the , of the lease up activity .
Speaker #6: It's , you know , there's a number of moving pieces to it . So it's really hard to flag any , any in particular .
Speaker #6: But from , you know , from a run rate perspective , you know , we're .
Speaker #12: You know ,
Speaker #6: This , you know , the run rate that we're on from an official perspective . This quarter , the incremental growth , I think the numbers maybe a little bit lower .
Speaker #6: than , than what what you're citing in terms of what we need to get .
Speaker #12: Toward .
Speaker #6: Toward that range . But we have a number of opportunities from both rent growth and also from a cost side to , to to to fall into that , into , into that range .
Speaker #14: Okay . Because I mean , it looks like from the supplemental that you guys are , you know , 337 of nine month AFFO in the guidance is four 5460 .
Speaker #14: So unless the my math is failing me , here , that it just seemed like a big jump sequentially . Even if you got , you know , because you it's not like you're going from 80% occupancy to 95 or some sort of is huge jump because you don't have that much vacancy .
Speaker #6: The one other piece to keep in mind is , is interest also . I mean , with the with the curve , with the with some of the rate reductions that are there that that does have , you know , a pickup for us , the credit facility refinancing , we also pick up , you know , we we no longer are subject to the ten bips .
Speaker #6: So for credit spread adjustment so that that's a piece there as well .
Speaker #14: Okay . And then you know , I don't know who best to answer the question , but you guys talk about , you know , the tenant credit watch list today .
Speaker #14: I mean , even if it's not who's on it . But is that watch list expanding ? Shrinking . You know , how should we be thinking about that at this point in time ?
Speaker #14: You know , given some of the returning given a couple of sales , etc. ? And how are you guys thinking about that internally ?
Speaker #5: I'd say on the whole , Rob , it's it's shrinking our two main issues are we're obviously steward and prospect . And I mean , we're always watching what our tenants are doing , obviously to the extent we can .
Speaker #5: But those that was a pretty good size event for us and for the portfolio . We don't have anything brewing that we're aware of at this time .
Speaker #14: Okay . And then just last one for me , Mark , how are you in the board thinking about Preferreds . Is that to you guys ?
Speaker #14: Is that expensive ? Debt ? Is that quasi equity ? Is that something with the common here that , you know that you could expand either reopening the existing or a new issuance to fund ?
Speaker #14: How do you how are you thinking about that ? You capital stack assuming that the , you know , if the common equity stays here for any prolonged period of time .
Speaker #5: Yeah . Candidly , I'm amazed at where the common is . But but I guess we're in decent company to REIT market as a whole .
Speaker #5: Is pretty challenged . And among them we are some of the most challenged as it relates to earnings multiples . But listen , I like preferred I think it is equity and I will go to my grave arguing that with anyone it's we don't have to pay it back .
Speaker #5: So I can't understand how it would be debt . And in our capital stack , I think , you know , it's possible today that would be attractive equity .
Speaker #5: So I mean , it's say it's definitely something we'd consider .
Speaker #14: Okay .
Speaker #5: And then I would say the people who would argue with us that has don't , don't probably own our stock right now anyway .
Speaker #5: So .
Speaker #14: All right . Thanks guys I appreciate the time this .
Speaker #5: Morning . Well yeah . Thank you Rob . You good .
Speaker #3: And the next question will come from Gaurav Mehta with Alliance Global Partners . Please go ahead .
Speaker #15: Thank you . Good morning . I wanted to ask you on your occupancy comments . I think you mentioned 96% by year end from 95.2% as of this quarter .
Speaker #15: Does that assume any sale of any vacant property?
Speaker #5: No .
Speaker #15: Okay . And so , you know , when you say 96% , does that mean that the the tenants are paying the rent or is it like you're signing 96% and tenants will probably start paying the rents later ?
Speaker #5: Those are all good morning . Thanks for the question . It's really those are kind of leases that are underway . We're trading paper .
Speaker #5: So those are those are situations where we have a line of sight and have belief that it'll get lease , will get signed by the end of the year .
Speaker #5: And by the way , I think we did sell one small building , although it wouldn't meaningfully move occupancy . So I retract my firm .
Speaker #5: No , I think we sold a very small asset actually just yesterday . So .
Speaker #15: Understood . And as a follow up on the for fourth quarter , should we expect that to be in line with where third quarter was ?
Speaker #6: Yeah . Yes . It's from a cash G&A perspective . You know , we're forecasting in that same in that same type of range and similar on on on the cash .
Speaker #15: Okay . Thank you . That's all I had .
Speaker #5: Thanks , Greg .
Speaker #3: And your next question today will come from John Massocca with B Riley . Please go ahead .
Speaker #16: Good morning . Maybe thinking about the buyback and kind of where your stock is trading today . As you look at dispositions and kind of capital recycling , how are you kind of thinking about utilizing the buyback , paying down debt or , you know , actually buying assets ?
Speaker #16: I mean , kind of where are we today ? Maybe within those three options .
Speaker #5: Yeah . Good question . Look , this stock is really attractive right now . I think , you know , we're trading over a nine cap on an implied basis .
Speaker #5: And that we can't find a portfolio that we have so much information on . And for that price . So that's a very attractive option .
Speaker #5: Obviously , that it's permanent capital . It's precious . We have a lot of respect for that and are not trying to shrink it .
Speaker #5: But if but you could say , you know , the universe is telling us to sell assets and buy our stock back . And that's certainly under consideration .
Speaker #5: We'd want to do it . So I think we talked about when we announced the buyback on a leverage neutral basis . And just yeah , so I guess I'd say that .
Speaker #5: So I mean , ideally we could do a little a little from each delever buy some stock back , buy some assets that are creative .
Speaker #5: That would be ideal . That's what I'd say . We're working on . Generally .
Speaker #16: As we think about . And it's maybe even be part of the strategic plan . I mean , is there an opportunity set to sell big chunks of assets within the portfolio , or should we expect kind of disposition activity near term to be kind of granular , like it has been in quarters past ?
Speaker #5: I think it's possible we could do big chunks . I mean , it's just about getting a , you know , a buyer you like .
Speaker #5: And I'd say the bigger it is . You know , just the more , the more complex it is , because it really , you know , it really affects our corporate math .
Speaker #5: So .
Speaker #16: Okay . And then .
Speaker #5: You want to kind of time that well sorry .
Speaker #16: No worries . And then longer term particularly as you're thinking about kind of strategy for Gmri . Is there potential to do investments maybe outside of the traditional aperture , traditional focus of MLB ?
Speaker #16: What are your kind of big , you know , longer term thoughts on on where you want to focus property level investments ?
Speaker #5: Yeah , I mean , I think that's a great question . I think I think the long , long term for us , I mean , we're trying to manufacture the best cash flow stream we can .
Speaker #5: And by that we mean really sad and ideally free cash flow generated back to the company to to start to fund some internal growth which , which we're really able to do for the first time .
Speaker #5: I think in the company's history , this quarter , albeit a modest amount . And so I think we would look at healthcare broadly .
Speaker #5: And , you know , we're not I think in most people's definition , a pure play mob or , you know , we're not pure play medical office already .
Speaker #5: And I think that's an opportunity . And so yeah , we are exploring that . And I say thinking , you know , where else in healthcare we think we could craft an edge where I think our sort of strengths as an investment team is and I think this is real is , you know , we have some very thoughtful folks that know the business well and really go deep on underwriting and , you know , those are skills that our transferable .
Speaker #16: Okay , I appreciate the detail . That's it for me . Thank you very much .
Speaker #5: Thanks a lot .
Speaker #3: This concludes our question and answer session . I would like to turn the conference back over to Mark Decker for any closing remarks .
Speaker #5: I was just falls on us to thank everyone for for spending time with us this morning . And hopefully we'll see you see you this winter .
Speaker #5: Thanks so much .