Q3 2025 Vir Biotechnology Inc Earnings Call

Speaker #1: Hello and welcome to Vir Biotechnology, Inc. Third quarter 2020 financial results and corporate Update call . As a reminder , this conference call is being recorded .

Speaker #1: At this time , all participants are in a listen only mode . After the speakers remarks , there will be a question and answer session .

Speaker #1: I will now turn the call over to Jason OByrne Chief Financial Officer . Please go ahead .

Speaker #2: Thank you Before we begin , I would like to remind everyone that some of the statements we are making today are forward looking statements under the securities laws .

Speaker #2: These forward looking statements involve substantial risks and uncertainties that could cause our clinical development programs future results , performance or achievements to differ significantly from those expressed or implied by such forward looking statements .

Speaker #2: These risks and uncertainties and risks associated with our business are described in the company's reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission , including forms 10-K , 10-q and 8-K .

Speaker #2: I will now turn the call over to our CEO , Marianne Debacker . Please go ahead .

Speaker #3: Good afternoon , everyone , and thank you for joining us for Vir Biotechnology, Inc. third quarter 2020 Earnings call . Today's call will highlight the significant progress we've made and our clear path forward as an organization .

Speaker #3: We'll provide guidance on our 5500 program timeline , discuss the upcoming solstice data presentation , and highlight how our clinical execution this quarter positions us for the significant value creating opportunities ahead .

Speaker #3: The third quarter has been marked by important achievements across both our hepatitis Delta and T cell engager programs . That demonstrate our ability to execute on critical milestones .

Speaker #3: Our team remains committed to powering the immune system to transform patients lives , and today we'll outline how our recent accomplishments set the stage for what we believe will be a pivotal period for Vibrio .

Speaker #3: I will now highlight the key accomplishments from this quarter that demonstrate this accelerating momentum . First , we completed enrollment in eclipse one .

Speaker #3: Our first Registrational phase three study for hepatitis Delta . Second , we're excited to provide guidance that we plan to share a comprehensive data update for the 5500 R Pro extend masked PSM targeted T cell engager in the first quarter of 2026 .

Speaker #3: And third , we dosed the first patient in our first line metastatic castration resistant prostate cancer combination study with androgen receptor pathway inhibitors .

Speaker #3: Collectively , these achievements represent an acceleration in our development trajectory and provide clear line of sight to multiple value creating catalysts ahead . We're executing with precision while advancing towards multiple important data readouts and regulatory milestones .

Speaker #3: I will now provide more detail on our hepatitis Delta program , where we've made exceptional progress this quarter . The completion of eclipse one enrollment represents a pivotal step towards bringing our differentiated combination regimen to patients with hepatitis Delta in the United States and beyond .

Speaker #3: This achievement accomplished ahead of our internal projections , reflects both strong investigator confidence and the substantial unmet medical need in this devastating disease .

Speaker #3: With eclipse one enrollment complete , we now expect primary completion in the fourth quarter of 2026 with topline data for all three eclipse studies expected by the first quarter of 2027 .

Speaker #3: This accelerated timeline positions us well for regulatory submissions and demonstrates our operational excellence in executing Registrational studies . Eclipse two continues to enroll well across European sites and remains on track .

Speaker #3: Together , eclipse one and eclipse two are designed to form the backbone of our regulatory filing package . Eclipse three are phase two B head to head comparison against the liver is progressing ahead of schedule with strong enrollment momentum and will provide valuable comparative data to support access and reimbursement discussions , particularly in European markets .

Speaker #3: The hepatitis delta market represents a compelling commercial opportunity with approximately 61,000 RNA positive patients in the United States and 113,000 in EU markets .

Speaker #3: The patient populations geographic concentration , particularly in major US urban centers , supports an efficient commercial approach with the targeted specialty sales organization focused on hepatologists and infectious disease specialists .

Speaker #3: Looking ahead to this month , we are preparing to present the complete 48 week solstice data set at aasld on November 9th . This presentation will provide important insights into the safety and efficacy profile of our combination regimen , and is expected to provide supportive data that reinforces confidence in our Registrational program .

Speaker #3: Turning to our oncology portfolio , we are excited to provide guidance that we plan to share a data update for 5500 . Our Psma targeted T cell engager in the first quarter of 2026 .

Speaker #3: We've made substantial progress in our dose escalation across both weekly and every three week schedules , and this data set is expected to provide important insights into the programs potential .

Speaker #3: We are enthusiastic about this program and the differentiated pro Xtend dual masking approach . As I mentioned , we recently dosed the first patient in our first line metastatic castration resistant prostate cancer combination study with Aapis .

Speaker #3: A first step towards addressing a significant unmet need for patients in early treatment lines . For veer , 5818 . Our pro extend masked Her2 targeted T cell engager .

Speaker #3: We are continuing dose escalation in combination with pembrolizumab, which is actively enrolling for VEER 5525. Our Pro Extend masked EGFR-targeted T-cell engager program continues to advance, with enrollment in our Phase 1 study progressing as expected.

Speaker #3: We are leveraging the extensive learnings from both veer 5818 and veer 5500 to enable efficient development and accelerate decision making . The clinical experience we are gaining across three distinct targets Psma , Her2 and EGFR is building evidence for the versatility of the Proact stand .

Speaker #3: Universal masking platform this emerging clinical validation gives us confidence as we advance our preclinical pipeline of additional T cell engager candidates , targeting various tumor associated antigens through internal development or strategic partnerships that leverage our platform technology .

Speaker #3: Finally , we ended the third quarter with approximately $810.7 million in cash . Cash equivalents , and investments . Based on our current operating plan , we continue to project our cash runway extending into mid 2027 .

Speaker #3: This strong financial foundation enables us to advance our Registrational hepatitis Delta program and our oncology pipeline with confidence . With that , I'll now turn the call over to Mark to provide a more detailed update on our clinical development programs .

Speaker #4: Thank you . Marianne . I'm pleased to provide detailed updates on our clinical development programs , starting with our hepatitis Delta program . Eclipse one enrollment was successfully completed with approximately 120 participants randomized , 2 to 1 to our combination therapy versus deferred treatment .

Speaker #4: This achievement was accomplished approximately two months ahead of our aggressive internal enrollment assumptions , demonstrating exceptional execution by our study teams and reflecting the significant unmet medical need in this patient population .

Speaker #4: The strength of our enrollment reflects multiple factors . First , the robust Solstice Phase two study results . Second , strong engagement with our clinical investigator community .

Speaker #4: Third , the absence of FDA approved treatment for hepatitis Delta in the United States and limited options globally . And fourth , the urgent need for more effective and convenient therapies for this devastating disease .

Speaker #4: Study team engagement throughout start led to accelerated country and site activation , allowing us to complete study enrollment faster than originally projected . This was further reinforced by consistent enrollment momentum across regions with investigators actively identifying and referring patients .

Speaker #4: Eclipse two continues with enrollment progressing well across multiple European sites , demonstrating .

Speaker #3: We'll outline how our recent accomplishments set the stage for what we believe will be a pivot.

Speaker #4: In treatment . Naive patients , and based on the strength of enrollment , we're seeing is tracking toward a similar completion timeline as eclipse one and two .

Speaker #4: Eclipse three enrollment has progressed ahead of our projections in this study will provide critical comparative data for access and reimbursement discussions with top line data expected in the first quarter of 2027 .

Speaker #4: Alongside the other eclipse studies regarding our upcoming Aasld presentation . The complete Solstice 48 week data set for the combination regimen of Bart and Olafsson represents an important clinical milestone .

Speaker #4: This additional follow-up provides important safety and efficacy insights and builds on our previously reported compelling Phase 3 results that demonstrated 64% of patients achieving HDV RNA target not detected at week 36.

Speaker #4: With our monthly combination regimen . Turning to our oncology programs , we continue to advance our pro extend mass T-cell engager portfolio across multiple targets for Vir , 5500 , our masked Psma targeted T Engager dose escalation is advancing in both weekly and every three week schedules .

Speaker #4: We have not reached a maximum tolerated dose and escalation continues as planned . The half life of 8 to 10 days potentially supports our every three week dosing evaluation with a potential for even longer dosing intervals .

Speaker #4: As Marianne mentioned , we achieved an important milestone in quarter with the first patient dosed in our first line metastatic castration resistant prostate cancer combination study with androgen receptor pathway inhibitors .

Speaker #4: This earlier line expansion offers the potential to address significant unmet need for patients earlier in their treatment journey . We're planning for a comprehensive data update in the first quarter of 2026 , with a meaningful data set across dose levels in late line patients , we expect this will include safety assessments and efficacy measures , including PSA responses and kinetics imaging and resist evaluations .

Speaker #4: The program is designed to leverage the potential advantages of the Pro extend platform , including a favorable safety profile and extended half life .

Speaker #4: Our approach seeks to maximize the therapeutic index of solid tumor T cell engagers through selective tumor activation , while minimizing systemic activity for Vera 58 , 18 our Her2 targeted T cell engager combination dose escalation with pembrolizumab is actively enrolling and progressing , according to plan for Vir 5525 .

Speaker #4: Our EGFR targeted T cell engager phase one study enrollment is also progressing as expected , the study design incorporates learnings from Vera , 5818 and Vera 5500 to enable efficient dose escalation .

Speaker #4: We are evaluating both monotherapy and combination with pembrolizumab across multiple EGFR expressing tumor types . As we've discussed on our second quarter call , we believe this program has the potential to address significant unmet need for patients across multiple solid tumor types , where current EGFR targeted approaches have important limitations .

Speaker #4: We also continue to advance multiple preclinical T cell engager candidates targeting various tumor associated antigens . The clinical experience from our current programs is informing the development of these preclinical candidates , and we're taking a strategic approach that combines internal advancement with potential partnership opportunities to accelerate development and advance a broader pipeline that addresses unmet need across multiple cancer types .

Speaker #4: We've made exceptional progress across our entire clinical portfolio during the third quarter eclipse . One enrollment completion provides a clear path to pivotal data in early 2027 for all three eclipse studies .

Speaker #4: Our upcoming veer 5500 data update will provide important insights into our oncology pipelines potential and our platform leaves us well positioned to efficiently advance multiple future candidates .

Speaker #4: With that , I'll now hand the call over to Jason for our financial update .

Speaker #2: Thank you . Mark . I am pleased to share our third quarter financial performance and overall financial position . R&D expense for the third quarter of 2025 was $151.5 million , which included $5.5 million of non-cash stock based compensation and a $75 million milestone payment triggered by First-in-human dosing of Vir , 5525 .

Speaker #2: This compares to $195.2 million for the same period in 2020 . For which included $8.9 million of stock based compensation and a $102.8 million upfront payment made to Sanofi at the closing of our exclusive worldwide license agreement .

Speaker #2: The year over year decrease was primarily driven by lower license expense and cost savings from previously announced restructuring initiatives , partially offset by increased clinical development expenses associated with our hepatitis , delta and oncology programs .

Speaker #2: SG&A expense for the third quarter of 2025 was $22.2 million , which included $5.8 million of stock based compensation expense , compared to $25.7 million for the same period in 2020 .

Speaker #2: For which included $7.8 million of stock-based compensation expense. The decrease was largely due to efficiencies and cost savings from previously announced restructuring initiatives.

Speaker #2: Our third quarter 2025 operating expenses totaled $173.7 million , representing a $46.2 million decrease from the same period in 2020 . For net loss for the third quarter of 2025 was $163.1 million , compared to a net loss of $213.7 million for the same period last year .

Speaker #2: Turning to cash , our net change in cash and investments in the third quarter was approximately $81.4 million . During the third quarter , we also made certain cash payments from restricted cash , including a $75 million payment to former Immunex shareholders .

Speaker #2: As described earlier , this payment was triggered by dosing the first patient in our veer 5525 study and was fully anticipated , having been held in escrow as restricted cash since we signed the Sanofi agreement last year .

Speaker #2: As a reminder , restricted cash is excluded from our reported balances of cash . Cash equivalents and investments . As such , disbursements from restricted cash accounts do not affect our projected cash runway .

Speaker #2: We ended the third quarter with approximately $810.7 million in cash . Cash equivalents and investments . Based on our current operating plan , we continue to project our cash runway extending into mid 2027 .

Speaker #2: Our capital deployment strategy remains focused on our most promising programs . We are advancing our hepatitis Delta eclipse Registrational program while also advancing our T cell Engager programs , including veer 5500 , veer 5818 and veer 5525 .

Speaker #2: We continue to deploy capital strategically , prioritizing investments in programs with the greatest potential for both meaningful patient impact and value creation . While also advancing business development opportunities that can further optimize our resource allocation .

Speaker #2: This concludes our prepared remarks . We will now initiate the Q and A session . Please limit questions to two per person so that we can get to all of our covering analysts .

Speaker #2: I'll turn it over to you . Operator .

Speaker #1: We will now begin the question and answer session in order to ask a question , simply press star . Then the number one on your telephone keypad .

Speaker #1: Our first question will come from the line of Gina Wang with Barclays . Please go ahead .

Speaker #5: Hello ? Can you hear me ? Thank you for taking our questions . This is Kung Wang . On behalf of Gina Wang from Barclays .

Speaker #5: We have two questions . First , one for the SMA , the genesis actually setting higher bar for the PSA 50 . However , the durability doesnt seem good .

Speaker #5: So how do you think the the SMA could show actually differentiation of your asset ? And we know the shells we spoke to actually focus on durability of the PSA control and more importantly , durability of the durable tumor response .

Speaker #5: The second question actually , for the HDV , for the phase three readout , what's your clinical bar as the key differentiation ? Thank you .

Speaker #3: Yeah . Thank you for those questions . So maybe on SMA I will just start by saying that we really excited to provide the guidance and share comprehensive data , update for our lead asset for 50 and 500 .

Speaker #3: In the first quarter of 2026 . And of course , at that point , we will have a really meaningful data set across multiple dose levels .

Speaker #3: Obviously , in the late patient setting , we will have data on both weekly and every three week dosing , and there will be certainly sufficient patient numbers to provide robust insights .

Speaker #3: Maybe I'll ask Mark to to add anything .

Speaker #4: Sure . Thanks , Marianne . Well , we do think we have a differentiated approach with the perks and platform . And in particular for Vera 5500 SMA , I'll comment on the fact that we use a steric hindrance mechanism for masking both the CD3 and the SMA side of the molecule .

Speaker #4: We have a dual masking approach which which is unique in the mask SMA space . It's a clinically validated approach . There's a product on the market called L2 that uses the Pro extend mask .

Speaker #4: So we know it's safe in that setting . And we think we can get to a really exceptional therapeutic index , which would include both depth and durability of PSA response .

Speaker #4: But stay tuned for our Q1 update your other question is about HDV and the eclipse program and what we think the bar is , particularly for eclipse one , just to remind people , we showed in the solstice trial , 64% of viral suppression at target not detected at week 36 .

Speaker #4: That was a week 36 that we presented back at before . And we are going to be presenting the complete 48 week solstice phase two data at Aasld .

Speaker #4: Very shortly . In terms of the bar , we think the combination of our to have exceptional ability to suppress HDV , viral RNA and achieve target , not detected , we can hit HB surface antigen down by three logs .

Speaker #4: So I'm not going to give you a specific number today , but we are we are expecting to have a very exceptional efficacy in terms of the virological outcomes that I mentioned .

Speaker #1: Our next question will come from the line of Michael's with Morgan Stanley . Please go ahead .

Speaker #6: Hi , this is Rohit on for Mike . Thanks for taking our questions . In terms of the veer 5500 data , will that be presented at a conference in early January , or do you think later in the quarter and then secondly , is there anything you can point to that we should focus on on the upcoming presentations that aasld .

Speaker #6: Thank you .

Speaker #4: So , sure . So the first question is about the update and exactly the timing in quarter one . And the the setting for for quarter one .

Speaker #4: We haven't provided that guidance exactly what month or what it will be . The setting . It could be a company event . It could be an academic conference .

Speaker #4: You know , that's to be announced at a subsequent time . In terms of the focus for Aasld and the solstice , we will be showing the complete 48 week data for typical Orion and monotherapy arms .

Speaker #4: So this will provide a complete update for target , not detected for HB surface antigen safety . So you'll get a complete picture there , which I think will be a meaningful update from what we've shown before .

Speaker #6: Thank you .

Speaker #1: Our next question will come from the line of Paul Choi with Goldman Sachs . Please go ahead .

Speaker #7: Hi . Good afternoon , and thank you for taking our questions . My first is on 5500 as well . Can you please clarify if your planned update in the first quarter of next year will be just the monotherapy patients , or will you have any data with regard to the combination group that are being tested with Aapis ?

Speaker #7: And my second question is on hep D , Gilead announced that they're filing , but at a ten milligram dose versus the two milligram dose that is currently approved in Europe , you know , can you comment on how you think that might change the landscape here in the as you progress with your program ?

Speaker #7: And also any potential regulatory implications , if any , if you think there are any there . Thank you very much .

Speaker #3: Thank you . Yeah . Thank you Paul . Maybe just on your first question , as you know , we only recently started the first line .

Speaker #3: And CrPC combination study with Aapis . So that data will not be part of the first quarter 2026 update . And then on the mark , you want to take .

Speaker #4: Yeah . So your question is about the

Speaker #4: announcement that they expect approval in H2 2026 . And your US specifically about the ten milligram dose ? I mean , we actually think it's a very net positive for Verbio that Gilead will launch ahead of us .

Speaker #4: We think that they will help to drive disease awareness . We think that they will help to , you know , focus on testing , HDV testing , which would make prepare the landscape for our launch .

Speaker #4: We don't see the 10 milligram or 2 milligram . We see those similarly . I mean , we still think our regimen of an electron can achieve really , really strong virological suppression compared to with with either dose in terms of regulatory implications .

Speaker #4: You know , we feel very confident that our program is designed to secure regulatory approval with eclipse one . And eclipse two as being the core of the regulatory package .

Speaker #4: And eclipse three is providing really strong head to head information , which will bolster the value proposition for patients . And in particular for payers in the EU .

Speaker #1: Our next question will come from the line of Corey Kasimov with Evercore ISI . Please go ahead .

Speaker #8: Hi . Thank you for taking our question . This is Josh on for Corey . Based off your PK and PD modeling data , are you surprised that you have not reached the maximum tolerated dose for 5500 ?

Speaker #8: And can you share on whether you have seen any grade three CRS events ? Thank you .

Speaker #4: So are we surprised that we have not reached the maximum tolerated dose I . Well , we've been going through dose escalation systematically and that's been going very well .

Speaker #4: I'm not really prepared to share any further details about dose escalation or results today . So stay tuned for our event in quarter one next year .

Speaker #4: And regarding more updated information on safety , again , we will be discussing that in quarter one next year at our at our data release .

Speaker #1: Our next question will come from the line of Alex Stranahan with Bank of America . Please go ahead .

Speaker #9: Hey guys . This is Matthew on for Alex . I appreciate you taking our questions in terms of the 48 week HTV data , can you maybe speak to how meaningful this data is for physician education ahead of a potential launch ?

Speaker #9: And any reason to think that there would be a significant change from week 36 to 48 ?

Speaker #4: So great question . I do think that the data will be meaningful for educating physicians , clinicians and others who are interested in HTV about what our regimen can deliver .

Speaker #4: At week 48 , in terms of what we expect to show you . I mean , I would just say it's not going to be a long time .

Speaker #4: So stay tuned for our presentation . But , you know , we've been seeing a deepening of responses over time to date . So we're excited to have the presentation and look forward to sharing it with you .

Speaker #1: Our next question will come from the line of Ellen Horst with TD Cowen . Please go ahead .

Speaker #10: Hi , guys . Thanks for taking my question . Just to drill down a little bit more on the TCE update . Can you talk a little bit more about how you're prioritizing the three TCE programs ?

Speaker #10: Is there a world where you take all three of them forward , or are you imagining that this will be a no go , go decision ?

Speaker #10: You know , for all three such that you only move forward with with the best data and maybe talk about the endpoints that you think are most important for that .

Speaker #10: No go . Go decision , whether it's response rate or durability , safety , etc. . Thank you .

Speaker #3: Yeah . Thank you Alan I'll start by saying , you know , our capital allocation priorities , as we have said , are really based on progressing our Registrational study for hepatitis Delta .

Speaker #3: And then certainly accelerating as much as we can . Our fear 5500 prostate cancer program . Our other T cell Engager programs . I mean , obviously are based on data , as you know , is typical .

Speaker #3: And as we have also shared before , we have a number of pre-clinical programs that have garnered a lot of external interest . So we also looking at potential business development opportunities across our pipeline .

Speaker #1: Our next question will come from the line of Sean McCutcheon with Raymond James . Please go ahead .

Speaker #11: Hi , guys . Thanks for the question . How are you thinking about the optimal setting for the TCE program and prostate cancer ?

Speaker #11: We got the results from PSM edition , albeit a bit tepid reaction at best , but a lot more patients going to be asthma radioligand exposures in the coming years .

Speaker #11: No , you started the pre taxane cohort . That's up and running , but should we expect some proof of concept results post PSM Radioligand from your next update with more US patients enrolled ?

Speaker #11: Thanks .

Speaker #4: Sure . So in terms of what exactly expect in terms of the patient population for our update , just as a reminder , we you know , we are currently doing dose escalation in both mono in both chic and Q3 week in the third line .

Speaker #4: Plus Mcrpc setting that would , you know , include post RLT patients as a population . We also started , as Marianne said , the front taxane naive .

Speaker #4: Although we won't have that data for the update in terms of where we're ultimately going to position this asset in terms of the patient population.

Speaker #4: I mean , we are interrogating the full gamut and intent to the patient populations from late line to earlier line to hormone sensitive .

Speaker #4: So we will this will ultimately be a data driven decision about how we ultimately position the molecule . But , you know , just just to get back to the update in Q1 , that will be the later line patients that were the part one or part one of the phase one program .

Speaker #1: Our next question will come from the line of Joseph Stringer with Needham and Company . Please go ahead .

Speaker #12: Hi . Thanks for taking our question . You shown that your HDB combo therapy can reduce the hep B surface antigen level over time .

Speaker #12: I guess . How well does this data resonate with Cllrs and physicians ? Is this something that you believe could be beneficial and potentially differentiator given the long term chronic treatment paradigm for HDV or is it not nearly as important as , say , Alt and Virological response ?

Speaker #4: Well , thanks for the question . I mean , firstly , I would state that the most important objective of our program with is to suppress the virus to target not detected .

Speaker #4: And , you know , a large proportion of patients , because we know that suppressing delta virus to tend will translate into better outcomes for patients in terms of progression of the underlying liver disease .

Speaker #4: But I do think that the fact that we can reduce hepatitis B surface antigen levels by about three logs is important and does resonate with coals , because , as you recall , the surface antigen is critically important for for the viral life cycle of delta .

Speaker #4: It needs the surface antigen to form its own viral coat . So the fact that we are starving the delta virus of the surface antigen is another mechanism by which we suppress the virus with our combination regimen .

Speaker #4: So we do think that is important . And differentiating .

Speaker #1: Our next question will come from the line of Patrick Trujillo with H.C. Wainwright . Please go ahead .

Speaker #13: Thanks . Just a follow up question . On on HCV . First , just in terms of the addressable patients in the US that you believe the combination of art and a string could be relevant for at the time of launch .

Speaker #13: I'm wondering if that would include the 61,000 patients estimate in the US who are viremic with HCV ? Or is there a subgroup of patients who would be best for treatment at the time of launch , and separately , just sort of what efforts are ongoing to identify these patients ?

Speaker #13: I mean , I appreciate that eclipse one enrolled two months ahead of schedule . So just just curious if , you know , particularly as you Boulevard , maybe gets approved if if there's just going to be more awareness and how you'll actually go about discovering those patients and ultimately how many patients you think you can reach at the time of launch .

Speaker #4: Yeah . So excellent question . So in terms of the HCV addressable population and launch , I mean , we're estimating approximately 60,000 patients in the US who are viremic with HCV .

Speaker #4: We really think we can , you know , our regimen , the patients will be eligible for our regimen broadly because we can treat patients effectively with high viral loads or lower viral loads , or can treat patients with compensated cirrhosis or non-cirrhotic .

Speaker #4: So we expect to be able to treat a very broad population of patients who are viremic with HCV . So we don't we don't feel that that will be constrained to any kind of subgroup at all .

Speaker #4: We feel like it'll be a broad population in terms of the , you know , how are we approaching the launch ? Well , first of all , I would note that , you know , agree with you that the the brisk enrollment of eclipse one really speaks to the high unmet medical need for a regimen that , like Bart and that can meaningfully address the Delta virus patient , the patients with HCV and the viremia and the liver disease that follows .

Speaker #4: We also think that Gilead launching Bulevirtide ahead of us . Like I said before , would be a real advantage because it'll drive disease awareness , drive testing , and those things .

Speaker #4: We are an active discussions with , you know , kols with advocacy groups , diagnostic companies , etc. about the best way forward to to driving awareness ourselves .

Speaker #4: And , you know , back to an earlier question . You know , in terms of what will be the impact of our sources presentation Aasld this year .

Speaker #4: I mean , I think it's going to be very significant because this is the first time we'll present the 48 week complete data for the combination , which are really undergirds our eclipse program .

Speaker #4: And provides further confidence . I think , in what we're trying to achieve with eclipse , which is really high rates of target , not detected , HBV surface antigen to suppression , and really hopefully driving good outcomes for patients .

Speaker #14: And as you know , I mean , both from an efficacy perspective and also from a patient convenience perspective . Our regimen being .

Speaker #3: Monthly dosing , you know , that that is a very big differentiator .

Speaker #1: And this concludes the Q&A session of the call . Thank you for participating . I'll now turn the call back over to Marianne .

Speaker #3: Thank you . Operator . And thank you all for joining us today . We look forward to updating you on our progress in the coming months .

Speaker #3: Operator . You may end the call . .