Q3 2025 Par Technology Corp Earnings Call

Speaker #1: Good day and thank you for standing by . Welcome to the PA Technology 2025 Third Quarter Financial Results conference call . At this time , all participants are in a listen only mode .

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Speaker #1: Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded . I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today , Chris Burns , Senior Vice President of IR and business Development .

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Speaker #2: Thank you , Elliot , and good afternoon , everyone . I'd like to thank you for joining us today for PAR TECHNOLOGY CORP 2025 third quarter financial results call .

Speaker #2: Earlier today , we released our financial results . The earnings release is available on the Investor Relations page of our website at PAR TECHNOLOGY CORP , where you can also find the Q3 financials presentation , as well as in our related form 8-K furnished to the SEC during our call today , we will reference non-GAAP Financial Measures , which we believe to be useful to investors .

Speaker #2: And exclude the impact of certain items . A description and timing of these items , along with a reconciliation of non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures , can be found in our earnings release .

Speaker #2: I'd also like to remind participants that this conference call may include forward looking statements that reflect management's expectations based on currently available data .

Speaker #2: However , actual results are subject to future events and uncertainties . The information on this conference call related to projections or other forward looking statements , may be relied upon and subject to the safe harbor statement included in our earnings release .

Speaker #2: This afternoon and in our annual and quarterly filings with the SEC . Finally , I'd like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded and it will be made available for replay via a link available on the Investor Relations section of our website .

Speaker #2: Joining me on the call today is CEO and president , Savneet Singh and Bryan Menar , Chief Financial Officer . I'd now like to turn the call over to Savneet Singh for the formal remarks portion of the call , which will be followed by general Q&A .

Speaker #2: Stephanie .

Speaker #3: Good afternoon , everyone , and thanks for joining us . Q3 was another strong quarter for PA , one that shows the progress we're making on all fronts .

Speaker #3: Growth , profitability and cash generation . We delivered 119 million in revenue , up 23% year over year , driven by software , subscription and hardware revenue growth .

Speaker #3: Our adjusted EBITDA came in at $5.8 million . This number includes $800,000 of accounting adjustments for non period costs , which when further backed out , brings our adjusted EBITDA to $6.6 million .

Speaker #3: Continuing a nice march upward in EBITDA and cash flow . Our commitment to a flat cost base also played out non-GAAP opex was 44% of revenue , down from 60% just 18 months ago .

Speaker #3: This result was driven by our to improving our operating leverage and our ability to begin to realize the operational savings being driven by AI utilization internally , our IRR hit 298.4 million at the end of Q3 , up 15% organically , reflecting steady execution across both sides of our platform .

Speaker #3: All told , AR grew 12 million sequentially in Q3 , and we expect that number to increase in Q4 to take us to our goals for the year .

Speaker #3: Now , to dig into our business performance in the third quarter , Q3 was another solid , with another quarter of solid execution for operator cloud , AR increased 31% year over year , including 14% organic growth in Q3 .

Speaker #3: We proved we can scale large enterprise deployments , innovate with AI , and keep customer satisfaction high , all while maintaining a disciplined focus on expense management and pursuing additional multiple large tier one opportunities .

Speaker #3: Our POS business continues to perform exceptionally well . Our Burger King implementation cadence during the quarter accelerated dramatically , with high efficiency , and we're pacing to meet Burger King's target for 2025 , which then creates great visibility for 2026 .

Speaker #3: Our ops platform had a steady quarter as we ramp into Burger King and another large tier one enterprise . The real story though , in Par Ops is the momentum in new launches , innovation .

Speaker #3: We brought AI to market and AI driven assistant that allows operators to prompt operational questions in natural language and get immediate answers from their data .

Speaker #3: This innovation comes from combining delegate and data center product suites , and we see cross-sell and upsell possibilities across our wider base . We also launched AI chatbot support , helping users self-service faster and reduce support ticket volume , a meaningful productivity win .

Speaker #3: We expanded our international functionality and onboarded a Burger King franchisee in Canada across all sites , including French language functionality . In Quebec , showcasing our ability to deliver for global customers .

Speaker #3: The par Ops operational groundwork and product expansion we've put in place will pay off nicely in 2026 as we enter the year with record backlog in customer commitments .

Speaker #3: Turning to task . As we mentioned last quarter , we pushed out rollouts to next year in preparation for large RFP work as we now move from RFP to actual development .

Speaker #3: Our goal will be to maintain our launch schedule for next year with new customers while we begin to our aggressive build schedule for this tier one opportunity .

Speaker #3: That's a major validation of both product and team capability , and hopefully we will have more to share publicly in time . What is crucial is that 2025 is proving to be the strongest bookings year in the history of the operator cloud segment , paving the way for years of sustained growth on last quarter's call , I mentioned that we had $20 million in POS contract value that had not yet been rolled out .

Speaker #3: Our late stage and waited pipeline and POS more than doubled this number again , ensuring a robust growth foundation for years to come .

Speaker #3: Now, turning to the Engagement Cloud, which also had a strong Q3. Engagement Cloud AR grew 16% from Q3 last year, including 15% organic growth.

Speaker #3: We continue to see real momentum in investment in digital engagement in the markets we serve . As brands look to connect more deeply with their guests .

Speaker #3: What's exciting is that similar to last quarter , 70 plus percent of New Deal signed in the quarter were multi-product , including loyalty ordering and pay , showing that customers increasingly see the value in the full engagement ecosystem , not just one solution , but the whole connected platform .

Speaker #3: A single cockpit to manage your entire digital business . We also saw renewals and upsells for punch with three major tier one brands proving that our long term partnerships continue to grow stronger over time .

Speaker #3: On the innovation innovation front , we launched new capabilities for the engagement , engagement and catering in games , both of which enhance the competitiveness of our solution and add real differentiation to our overall engagement platform .

Speaker #3: Moving to ordering , I'm encouraged to report that this was our biggest win quarter for par ordering to date , highlighted by six new customer wins , all upsells and multiproduct deals , including a 400 plus location enterprise chain , a clear signal that our products are winning at scale in the quarter , we were also able to sign two new customers that were previously using the largest online ordering provider in our space .

Speaker #3: We hope this creates a template to accelerate our growth in 2026 . As part ordering is not only a best in class platform .

Speaker #3: Now , but also an incredibly easy proof point of our better Together thesis . Customers apart ordering and punch and POS can now update menus in one place .

Speaker #3: Push changes to third party delivery channels and manage every aspect of their digital business from just one system . It's one of those few times in the enterprise software world where the demo just speaks for itself .

Speaker #3: solution for fuel and convenience stores part retail had a standout quarter demonstrating what execution and innovation looked like working together in Q3 . We had key milestones and launched new features that are driving record engagement and customer success .

Speaker #3: We also added four new enterprise wins , including a successful punch to par retail migration in the quarter . It's important to note , as we finalize the transitions from punch to part retail , there's an opportunity for us to expand gross margins by taking out punch convenience store costs and taking up the price for moving customers to the more robust Our retail platform .

Speaker #3: From a product perspective , we made command Center smarter and more dynamic , and it introduced messaging center and audience experts , making it easier for retailers to launch campaigns and analyze audience data in real time .

Speaker #3: And all of this hard work and achievement is working nearly every customer hit all time highs in active program membership this quarter . So great overall quarter for par retail and which continues to lead in digital trade and engagement with strong results and clear momentum heading into 2026 .

Speaker #3: A few summary thoughts here before turning over to Brian for a deep dive on our numbers , I briefly mentioned this earlier , but this quarter marks a major milestone in his journey to redefine restaurant technology with the launch of PA AI , our new intelligence layer , built natively across the PA platform .

Speaker #3: The first product in this suite , is now live in . Already transforming how operators manage their business . PA AI is different .

Speaker #3: It's built in , not bolted on . We've embedded AI intelligence directly into the operational workflow across POS back office loyalty drive through and payments .

Speaker #3: This approach turns customer product into an active decision engine , creating a connected , intelligent restaurant ecosystem . All pulling data from a clean pane of glass .

Speaker #3: AI is our first step . It's an operational intelligence assistant that enables restaurant leaders to ask natural language questions and instantly surface . Live insights from POS labor and inventory data .

Speaker #3: No spreadsheets , no extra apps , no manual reporting . Importantly , it dramatically lowers the know how required to be an operational expert , allowing more employees to engage with the product and most importantly , saving brands hours of time early .

Speaker #3: Customers like Charter Foods have already eliminated the need for traditional BI tools and are realizing meaningful time savings and better decision making . What's next ?

Speaker #3: Later this year , we'll introduce a marketing intelligence assistant with the PA engagement platform , enabling marketers to instantly analyze campaign performance , loyalty data , and customer engagement metrics in real time .

Speaker #3: Imagine being able to build segment , launch , and execute a promotional campaign all within a prompt like interface . This is more than a product launch .

Speaker #3: It's a strategic shift to an AI native future . As I've said before , it's not about building tools . It's about owning the workflows so that AI is in the places where we as users are actually living .

Speaker #3: This new foundation will fuel capabilities like ROI ranked operational recommendations , voice enabled ordering , and real time audience targeting . All designed to designed to make restaurant operations faster , smarter and more adaptive .

Speaker #3: As AI becomes embedded in the fabric of enterprise software , we believe the platform strategy is quickly emerging as the key to long term value .

Speaker #3: It's not just about building tools anymore , it's about building AI . Native workflows . Companies that act as platforms , not point solutions , are in the best position to win .

Speaker #3: Why ? Because they're integrated where work actually happens . That means deeper engagement , better data , and a natural fit for generative AI features that drive real , measurable impact .

Speaker #3: Moreover , by leveraging tooling and a toolset that you already understand , you lower the bar for training and adoption . A massive issue in today's early AI products .

Speaker #3: This is exactly where PA shines . We don't just automate tasks , we connect entire workflows across departments while point solutions stay stuck in silos .

Speaker #3: PA brings teams together , streamlining operations and enables the collaboration at scale for restaurants . This isn't a nice to have , it's the foundation for running a smarter , faster and more agile business .

Speaker #3: We feel deeply passionate that AI makes PA stronger because it brings the value of better together to life faster , and proves the ROI of doing more with PA , we believe it helps dig a deeper moat and also pulls more of the ecosystem our way .

Speaker #3: Brian will now walk through our numbers . Brian . .

Speaker #4: Thank you Stephanie , and good afternoon everyone . In Q3 , we continue to execute to our plan of driving organic growth across our products and verticals .

Speaker #4: We serve , while also driving profit and cash flow improvement , while also ensuring the company has the right resources to execute with excellence on our large tier one opportunities .

Speaker #4: Subscription services continue to fuel our organic growth and represented 63% of total Q3 revenue growth from higher margin revenue streams resulted in a consolidated non-GAAP gross margin of 57.5 million , an increase of 7.4 million , or 15% , compared to Q3 prior year .

Speaker #4: We managed the growth while continuing to drive efficient leverage of our operating expenses . Now to the financial details . Total revenues were 119 million for Q3 2025 , an increase of 23% compared to the same period in 2020 .

Speaker #4: For driven by subscription service revenue growth of 25% , inclusive of 16% , organic growth , net loss from continuing operations for the third quarter of 2025 was 18 million , or 45 cent loss per share , compared to a net loss from continuing operations of 21 million , or $0.58 loss per share reported for the same period in 2024 .

Speaker #4: non-GAAP net income for the third quarter of 2025 was 2.5 million , or $0.06 . Earnings per share , an improvement of 5.6 million compared to a non-GAAP net loss of 3.1 million , or $0.09 loss per share , for the prior year .

Speaker #4: Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter of 2025 was 5.8 million , an improvement of 3.4 million compared to the same period in 2020 .

Speaker #4: For Q3 , adjusted EBITDA of 5.8 million . Included 0.8 million of accounting charges for non period costs . Removing these non-GAAP charges , adjusted EBITDA would have been 6.6 million and more indicative of our current normalized operating profit .

Speaker #4: Now for more details on revenue . Subscription service revenue was reported at 75 million , an increase of 15 million , or 25% , from the 60 million reported in the prior year and represents 63% of total revenue .

Speaker #4: Organic subscription service revenue grew 16% compared to prior year when excluding revenue from our trailing 12 month acquisitions . RR exiting the quarter was two 98.4 million , an increase of 22% from last year's Q3 , with Engagement Cloud up 16% and Operator Cloud up 31% .

Speaker #4: Total organic RR was up 15% year over year . As stated in our Q2 earnings call , we expected incremental IRR growth to accelerate from the first half of the year to the second half .

Speaker #4: During Q3 , incremental IRR increased 12 million versus 5 million in Q2 , when excluding the go skip asset signaling , the return to stronger growth momentum , which we expect to continue in Q4 .

Speaker #4: Our growth is being driven by both growth and increased ARPU , reflecting successful execution of a better Together thesis , which is driving both Multiproduct deals and cross-selling into our existing customer base .

Speaker #4: However , revenue for the quarter was 30 million , an increase of 7 million , or 32% from the 23 million reported in the prior year .

Speaker #4: The increase was driven by continued penetration of hardware attachment into our expanding software customer base and increased sales volume from customer demand that was pulled forward in advance of anticipated tariff impacts.

Speaker #4: Professional service revenue was reported at 14.5 million , relatively unchanged from the 14.2 million reported in the prior year . Now , turning to margins , gross margin was 49 million , an increase of 6 million , or 14% , from the 43 million reported in the prior year .

Speaker #4: The increase was driven by subscription services , with gross margin of 41 million , an increase of 8 million , or 25% , from the 33 million reported in the prior year .

Speaker #4: Gaps in service margin for the quarter was 55.3% , and in line with the 55.3% reported in Q3 of the prior year . Excluding the amortization of intangible assets , stock based compensation and severance .

Speaker #4: non-GAAP gross margin for Q3 was 66.2% , compared to 66.8% in Q3 2020 . For the modest year over year , decline was driven by the impact of a fixed profit contract that we acquired from one of our 2024 acquisitions .

Speaker #4: Excluding this contract , which is not reflective of core operational performance . non-GAAP gross margin was over 70% for the quarter , an improvement of 150 basis points versus prior year .

Speaker #4: This contract is up for renegotiation in 2027 , and we expect that renewal process will provide an opportunity to improve the underlying economics hardware margin for the quarter was 17.8% versus 25.5% in the prior year .

Speaker #4: The decrease in margin year over year was substantially driven by increased supply chain costs resulting from recently implemented US tariff policies . The company began implementing pricing adjustments during the quarter to mitigate the impact of tariffs and future periods .

Speaker #4: We expect hardware margins to return to the mid 20 range moving forward . Professional service margin for the quarter was 17.6% , compared to 29.2% reported in the prior year .

Speaker #4: The decrease in margin year over year was primarily driven by the reclassification of non-period costs from R&D and incentives offered on SaaS implementations to facilitate the adoption of recurring revenue streams. We expect professional service margins to return to the mid-20% range going forward.

Speaker #4: In regard to operating expenses , GAAP sales and marketing was 12.5 million , an increase of 2 million from the 10.5 million reported for the prior year .

Speaker #4: The increase was primarily driven by inorganic increases related to our acquisitions . While organic sales and marketing expenses increased . A modest 0.7 million year over year .

Speaker #4: GAAP was 31.7 million , an increase of 4 million from the 27.4 million reported in the prior year . Increase was substantially driven by certain non-cash or non-recurring expenses , of which 3.5 million are non-GAAP adjustments , while organic G&A , excluding non-GAAP adjustments , remained flat year over year , GAAP R&D was 19 million , an increase of 1 million from the 18 million recorded in the prior year .

Speaker #4: The increase was entirely driven by inorganic expenses , while organic R&D expenses actually decreased 0.2 million year over year . Operating expenses , excluding non-GAAP adjustments , was 52 million , an increase of 4 million , or 8% , versus Q3 2020 .

Speaker #4: For . But when excluding inorganic growth , operating expenses were flat year over year , exiting Q3 , non-GAAP opex as a percent of total revenue was 43.4% , a 590 basis point improvement from the 49.3% in Q3 of the prior year , demonstrating our ability to scale efficiently and drive operating leverage .

Speaker #4: Now to provide information on the company's cash flow and balance sheet position . As of September 30th , 2025 , we had cash and cash equivalents of 92 million and short term investments of 0.5 million for the nine months ended September 30th .

Speaker #4: Cash used in operating activities from continuing operations was $15 million , versus 24 million for the prior year . Operating cash flow has steadily improved throughout the year as we continue to drive incremental profitability and reduce our net working capital needs , Q3 operating cash flow was positive , with the cash provided by operating activities of 8 million for the quarter .

Speaker #4: Cash used in investing activities was 11 million for the nine months ended September 30th , versus 178 million for the prior year . Investing activities included 4 million of net cash consideration and connection with the tuck in asset acquisition of gossip , capital expenditures of 3 million for fixed assets and capital expenditures of 4 million for developed technologies associated with our software platforms .

Speaker #4: Cash provided by financing activities was 12 million for the nine months ended September 30th , versus 279 million for the prior year . Financing activities primarily consisted of the net proceeds from the 2030 notes of 111 million , of which 94 million was utilized to repay the credit facility in full .

Speaker #4: To recap , following a slower first half , Q3 marked a pivot to meaningful growth and continued incremental profitability for the second half of 2025 .

Speaker #4: This momentum is evident across key financial metrics 12 million or 17% annualized sequential IRR growth . non-GAAP subscription service gross margin percent improved 150 basis points from Q3 2024 when excluding the non-operational impact of the aforementioned acquired fixed profit contract .

Speaker #4: non-GAAP opex . As a percent of total revenue improved 590 basis points from Q3 2024 , adjusted EBITDA improved 3.4 million from Q3 2024 , and operating cash flows were a positive 8 million for the quarter .

Speaker #4: I will now turn the call back over to Subnet for closing remarks prior to moving to Q&A.

Speaker #3: Thanks , Brian . In short , Q3 was a strong execution quarter and we possessed a scale product , subscriber base and financial strength to lead the enterprise food service technology category .

Speaker #3: What's in front of us are significant business opportunities with major tier one deals and aggressive acquisition strategy to deliver sustained additional inorganic growth and appointed AI product approach .

Speaker #3: Moreover , our growth into new large Tam industries continues to validate our power advantage in the investments we're making should bear fruit in years to come .

Speaker #3: In 2025 , we're on track to deliver nearly 450 million in revenue , approximately two thirds of which is recurring SaaS . We're also driving gross margin expansion , building a solid cross-selling , upsell motion and seeing results across our global installed base of over 100,000 restaurants and retail stores .

Speaker #3: The long term plan is for long term plan is for par to be the clear enterprise winner . First of restaurants , later with C stores , and over time in the .

Speaker #3: Next vertical being the anointed winner in this niche market creates a unique market dynamic that will warrant evaluation commensurate with others who've done this , done similar work in different verticals .

Speaker #3: We are convinced this foundation we have built has set PA up to compete for and win the largest of tier one restaurant technology deals in history .

Speaker #3: In the short run , our priorities remain clear . First , continue to grow AR in the mid-teens organically or higher . Second , to execute on a unified , Better Together product roadmap while building and commercializing new AI driven functionality .

Speaker #3: Third drive operating leverage and expand EBITDA and fourth close and announce large strategic tier one deals to provide further visibility for long term revenue growth .

Speaker #3: A critical aspect of our story now is revenue growth and visibility, while especially operator cloud products rollouts can take time given the in-store nature of the deployments. PA has accrued a very sizable backlog coupled with a late-stage tier-one pipeline.

Speaker #3: We have a very strong foundation to build off of . In other words , the short run priorities I just mentioned are just our baseline .

Speaker #3: This is the minimum expectation I have of our team . Our mandate continues to be to leverage our existing business to pursue more aggressive , accretive and creative M&A opportunities .

Speaker #3: This is a buyer's market in part , is a proven value creator multiples across our sectors have compressed dramatically , allowing for the potential for creative asset acquisitions .

Speaker #3: More importantly , though , we have the expertise and grit to actually pull it off our current flywheel of Multiproduct deals expansion is great proof of this .

Speaker #3: our time here , we have evolved from an unfocused , hardware driven and money losing business with a singular software product to a profitable platform SaaS company bidding for and executing the biggest deals in the industry .

Speaker #3: absolutely happen again and again . We intend to further consolidate our existing markets while building out the PA flywheel in new verticals . Our ambition is to be larger and faster , predicated on an ever expanding better platform During is deeply This will rooted by every single member of our team .

Speaker #3: Thanks again for your time and your continued confidence in PA . We're happy to take your questions . Operator .

Speaker #1: Thank you . At this time , we will conduct the question and answer session . As a reminder to ask a question , you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced .

Speaker #1: To withdraw your question , please press star one one again . Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster . Our first question comes from the line of Samad Samana of Jefferies .

Speaker #1: Your line is now open .

Speaker #5: Hi . Good evening and thanks for taking my questions . And it's good to see the progress both on the top line and on the on the expense side .

Speaker #5: So congrats on that . Maybe first Savneet Singh just in thinking about the , you know , the word record in terms of like the pipeline .

Speaker #5: I think it was described as a tipping point in some ways by Brian for the business , it's a you guys . The tone is very , very positive .

Speaker #5: Can you maybe help me understand a little bit more precision in terms of what changed between 2 to 3 ? Q that's giving you , I think , what seems like incremental confidence , particularly as you ended the call with that at least mid-teens growth outlook .

Speaker #5: And then I have a couple follow ups .

Speaker #3: I think we had similar confidence in Q2 . It's just further visibility as we've signed more deals that have given us a lot more visibility for Q4 and the rest of next year .

Speaker #3: And then further progress these larger tier one deals , where now we see real visibility and hopefully a couple of them . It's just giving us more confidence .

Speaker #3: I think we had similar confidence , but it's rising as we get more and more deals signed . I think the other part is , you know , we rolled out , you know , a record amount of revenue this quarter and our backlog filled back up .

Speaker #3: And so our , you know , our backlog didn't come down , which means that , you know , we're signing , you know , a a faster rate than we're actually rolling out , which , you know , I think gives us more confidence .

Speaker #3: Again , on the visibility in the out years .

Speaker #5: Great . And then you you mentioned valuations coming down in the space . You mentioned M&A . And I know the company has made a lot of progress in digesting some of the M&A from years past .

Speaker #5: So just should we take that as a signal that now that you're far enough along in the digestion of tasks and , and some of the other assets that you would maybe think about firing that M&A muscle back up again , or is that more of a opportunistic view ?

Speaker #5: Just help us think through that , that that last comment .

Speaker #3: It's opportunistic . You know , what I meant by that is we're seeing , you know , obviously our multiples compressed . But what we're noticing is a lot of the assets we wanted to buy have compressed far more .

Speaker #3: And there's also unique opportunities to carve out assets and businesses that we like as well . And so , you know , we're going to be opportunistic .

Speaker #3: We're going to be super careful about using our shares . But you know , we're seeing , you know , enough accretive deals where , you know , I wouldn't be surprised if we found something .

Speaker #3: There's nothing imminent or anything like that . But we feel pretty good about where we stand relative to the multiples . We're seeing some of the assets we've been tracking for many years .

Speaker #5: Great . Last question for me , and I'll turn it over . But just there's been , you know , I'd say some mixed performances out of certain pockets of maybe groups that , that , that aren't necessarily PA customers , but that are representative of what's going on more broadly with consumers .

Speaker #5: And so I'm just curious if you have seen that . Have any impact on on customer decision making , whether that makes it more imperative than ever to have the right technology in place and or if that's slowing down deal cycles , or if you're seeing both and it's netting out .

Speaker #5: Just how is some of the recent news or headlines on what's happening in restaurants translating into deal closures for you guys ?

Speaker #3: Yeah . Great question . So in the first half of the year was painful for I think our category across the board , we saw , you meaningful slowdown in traffic and sales for for many of them we saw it pick back up .

Speaker #3: You know towards the second half of this quarter . And you know , but I'd say categorically we haven't seen a slowdown in RFP activity .

Speaker #3: In fact , you know we have more RFP activity at scale than we had before where it impacted us in . Q two .

Speaker #3: Was that at the franchisee level , rollouts were slower because franchisees were waiting for business to stabilize ? I think that's now reversing .

Speaker #3: And what we're seeing really good momentum . But , you know , the macro question is , is a good one because I think what we continue to see is that as as sales volatility exists in our category , the investments in technology seem to be increasing , not decreasing .

Speaker #3: So we're seeing more excitement around a lot of the AI tooling . We have . And I think maybe most exciting for PA , we absolutely see more interest in consolidating vendors .

Speaker #3: And you know , we are one of the few players that have , you know , I'd argue , close to a full suite of products .

Speaker #3: And so I think that's giving us a little wind in our sails .

Speaker #5: Great . Thank you so much .

Speaker #1: Thank you . Our next question comes from George Sutton of Craig-hallum . Your line is now open .

Speaker #6: Thank you . A nice message , guys . So specifically to task . You had mentioned that last quarter . You had put off some implementations because you were focused on the RFPs .

Speaker #6: I just want to make sure I understand what the updated message is relative to that .

Speaker #3: Yeah . You know , I think we continue to to to same plan . We've got a lot of test business needs to get rolled out .

Speaker #3: It'll get rolled out in 26 . And you know we're moving from RFP to actual development on on you know , a larger opportunity .

Speaker #3: And so , you know , it's critical for us to get that get to to hold our commitment to our customers to get those deals out in 26 , while also building for this large opportunity .

Speaker #6: Now , with respect to 2026 , you made multiple points through your prepared comments that there were different things setting you up very well for 2026 .

Speaker #6: AI , the BK rollout , the template for products , etc. . Can you just give us a broader sense of what this ultimately means for 26 ?

Speaker #3: Not yet . We're going to give guidance in the next call , but I think what you know , I think maybe the biggest takeaway is we have a lot more visibility now than we've had in the past because of the backlog that we've signed .

Speaker #3: And , you know , as a result , I think we can get more precision as we as we as we get to the end of the year .

Speaker #3: And then I think the , the other part about it is , you know , the market to , to , you know , the last question , part of we're also learning is that the market likes our strategy .

Speaker #3: Every single part ordering deal . You know was was a multi-product deal including payments and loyalty . You know we're starting to see that the thesis that we put out there and now the product execution is caught up .

Speaker #3: And so , you know , that should give us the opportunity to take a lot more share next year . And that's kind of my wish is I hope it's a template for success , because we've been really impressed with happened in Q2 and so far what's happening in Q3 and what's happening in Q4 .

Speaker #6: Super . Thanks , guys .

Speaker #1: Thank you . Our next question comes from Mayank Tandon of Needham . Your line is now open .

Speaker #7: Thank you . Good evening . I'll just nitpick a little bit . You've been saying that you could grow IRR 20% organically for quite some time .

Speaker #7: I think you said that your target is mid-teens plus . Is there a change in the market , or do you think this is just a function of the type of deals you're pursuing , which may take longer to land ?

Speaker #7: Maybe that's a good thing long term , but maybe it slows down the revenue ramp . I'm just curious as to why the shift from 20% organic to mid-teens organic .

Speaker #7: If I heard your comments correctly .

Speaker #3: Yeah . So , you know , last quarter we we we said , you know , we're going to target mid-teens . And so , you know , I'm continuing that message here .

Speaker #3: You know , when I was through the priorities , it was , you know , our short term priorities , which is , you know , continuing to hit , you know , at least that and hopefully more going forward .

Speaker #3: The major delta we're talking about is 2025 , where our first half was slower than we wanted . And so I think it will take us , you know , take be hard for us to get to that 20 for this year .

Speaker #3: And so , you know , I think there's opportunity for us to do that , you know , to accelerate in 26 and 27 .

Speaker #3: As , as the last caller was talking about . But right now , you know , I think we feel really comfortable mid-teens opportunities to go higher .

Speaker #3: And , you know , given all the momentum we have in AI and some of these larger deals , you know , we'll see where that shakes out .

Speaker #3: You know , on our next call . But , you know , like I said , I think we feel really good where we are .

Speaker #3: And more than anything else , I think there's more opportunity for us to get back to where we were this call than there was last call .

Speaker #3: .

Speaker #7: Got it . And then if I could just ask more on the competition , just listening to toast and other players in the market , it seems like there's obviously the share shift going on from legacy to the more modern solutions like yours .

Speaker #7: And toast and other players in the market . I'm just curious , are you starting to see each other now because they're moving up market ?

Speaker #7: I know not in the QSR space necessarily , but making some progress in your core enterprise space . I think you've had some opportunities down market .

Speaker #7: So I'm just wondering if you're starting to maybe see each other more often and what that means for the market overall .

Speaker #3: You know , not not as much as you think . I mean , I think we have incredible respect for the team , the business , what they've built , you know , and we've been competing in enterprise deals for , for years and years .

Speaker #3: You know , I think at the large qsrs where , you know , we , you know , kind of our bread and butter , you know , traditionally it's still the same , you know , few folks , it's the incumbency ourselves .

Speaker #3: And usually one of the other legacy providers . I think that and so today , I think if we surveyed our sales team , it would sort of say , you know , same old , you know , we definitely see each other more in the smaller mid-market part of the world where , you know , we're pushing aggressively , you know , they are pushing aggressively .

Speaker #3: And so we do see each other there . But , you know , the large tier ones , it's , you know , unique dynamics when we see them and , you know , obviously , I think we think very highly of them , but we feel like we continue to expand our moat , particularly this multi-product dynamic , I think is really going to help us going forward .

Speaker #7: Got it . Appreciate you taking my questions . Thank you .

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Speaker #8: Hey guys , thanks for taking my question . I wanted to clarify your comments around moving from RFP to development . Specifically . I haven't seen any big announcements , but are you alluding to one of the super tier ones that you had been targeting and talking about over the past couple of quarters ?

Speaker #3: You know , we're generally in a market where , you know , the press release comes out , you know , quite a bit after , you know , we've we've we've won a deal .

Speaker #3: You know , unless it's a renewal of an incumbent . So you generally won't see the press release honestly until , until , until well , later .

Speaker #3: If we want something . You know what I was talking about ? You know , all I'm suggesting is that we were in RFP process and a deal , and now we're starting to build .

Speaker #3: And then , you know , as we get details , we'll we'll share them as we're allowed .

Speaker #8: Okay , great . And as a follow up , I feel like I have to ask the obligatory Fiserv question here . I know Clover is down market from you , but and it's still early days , but you know , there's obviously quite a bit of disruption going on in the payment space .

Speaker #8: And you know , negative negative sentiment around some of the fees that they've been charging . So with that said , do you see opportunity to attach payments coming out of some of the disruption , the potential disruption in the payment market ?

Speaker #3: Not really . You know , in our market , you know , payments is a much more transparent business than it is in , you know , the SMB side of the world .

Speaker #3: And so , you know , generally when we when payments deals , it's in one of two ways . Its hyper transparent package with a point of sale where we can help , you know , bring down costs , hardware funding , sort of traditional ways of doing so .

Speaker #3: Companies when , when deals or it's through our online ordering business which is starting to grow where our order and pay module is really valuable to to to bundle in as a package deal .

Speaker #3: So that's when we see it , you know , as far as the disruption that's happening down there , we just don't participate in that SMB space .

Speaker #3: So it hasn't really changed anything in our area .

Speaker #8: Got it . Appreciate the color . Thank you .

Speaker #1: Thank you . Our next call comes from Stephen Sheldon of . William Blair . Your line is now open .

Speaker #9: Hey , thanks for taking my questions . First one here . I just wanted to see could help us unpack the sequential trends in operator cloud IRR .

Speaker #9: Great to hear that . The Bcx rollout accelerated , but just given that , I'm also a little surprised that RR there was up less than 3 million sequentially .

Speaker #9: So any rough sense of how much of the Burger King contract RR when you think about the full deployment would be included in the three two ending RR number ?

Speaker #9: And are there any offsets that you saw this quarter , such as churn in the broader operator base that weighed against sequential trends ?

Speaker #9: Just anything to unpack the sequential IRR growth and operator .

Speaker #3: , no meaningful churn . You know , I think the way to think about it is , you know , back end weighted , you know , last the last month of the quarter was an excellent acceleration for us .

Speaker #3: And that continued into October . October was our best month . So it's more of just the back end weighted . And so that's why I think , you know , you're here .

Speaker #3: On Brian's comments in mind , we feel like Q4 will be potentially be a nice uptick . So just the back end nature of the rollout within the quarter .

Speaker #3: And no , no , no significant churn .

Speaker #9: Okay . Thanks . And then on loyalty , I guess , can you just talk some more about the growth you're seeing there ?

Speaker #9: It seems like loyalty is becoming a much bigger focal point with brands and becoming a bigger factor in consumer decisions . So how much runway is there left for par to grow in loyalty ?

Speaker #9: As you think about location , penetration , pricing increases , etc. , and how different does that opportunity look now between restaurants ? You and convenience stores , broader retail ?

Speaker #3: You know , loyalty is a mandate . You know , it's nice to have it . Now . I think we're witnessing that in times of of , you know , sales slowdowns , traffic slowdowns , you know , you really need a robust loyalty program not just grow traffic and revenues , but also keep your margins high .

Speaker #3: And so it's , you know , continues to impress us how much demand there is for that . You know , we're earlier in that cycle for convenience than we are in restaurants .

Speaker #3: But even in restaurants , I think what it's leading to is it's not just loyalty that you had a few years ago . It's more upsell of new product .

Speaker #3: It's a lot more opportunity to sell the AI initiatives . I talked about . And so , you know , our loyalty product , you know , probably won't double in the next two .

Speaker #3: I think you'll to see us continue to push up ARPU with the addition of new products , because I think early on , it was , you know , you had an all encompassing loyalty product .

Speaker #3: I think in the future , it's going to be a bunch of modules that are built , built into that , that we can upsell and create a lot of customers .

Speaker #9: Great . Thank you .

Speaker #1: Thank you . Our next question comes from the line of Adam Weiden of ADW capital . Your line is now open .

Speaker #10: Hey , first question is around M&A . I know you spoke about it , but obviously your your shares are down almost . I guess two thirds almost from sort of where we were in November .

Speaker #10: I guess my question to you is , you know , would this prospective M&A be accretive to your growth rate . And I mean , how do you think about , you know , doing M&A with your stock down two thirds ?

Speaker #10: I mean , is it I mean , if I look at it on 27 or even 26 , I mean , you're you're trading at basically a multiple I mean , you're trading at , you know , in the teens or the ,

Speaker #10: you know , value for the whatever . It's , you know , 15 , 16 , 18 , 20 times EBITDA . I mean , how do you how do you think about sort of , you know , buying businesses while you're profitability ?

Speaker #10: Profitability is inflecting because the , the 27 is on a revenue multiple basis . You're the cheapest you've ever been and your profitability is inflecting .

Speaker #10: So I'm just curious how you think about . Doing M&A within that paradigm .

Speaker #3: Yeah I think it's twofold . So one we won't do something that's not accretive . I think , you know , we've been very strict about that , you know , and most almost everything we've done .

Speaker #3: And so you know what we're observing is that while our multiples , you know , compressed , we're seeing far more compression in some of the assets that we've been tracking for a very long time .

Speaker #3: And part of that is that , you know , we think there's some carve out opportunities that , you know , we could leverage .

Speaker #3: And so , you know , I don't think you'll see us do anything close to a big deal . I don't think you'll see us .

Speaker #3: You know , dilute you and ourselves in any way . That's irresponsible . I think you'll see us find niche assets that we can leverage .

Speaker #3: You know , use cash on the balance sheet , or if we're going to use our shares , there's a large margin of safety for us to , to , to to make it accretive .

Speaker #3: So I think it's it's just relative to what we're seeing in the market . We think we can create value . It's not going to be anything crazy , but it's enough where we think we can take up the growth rate of the collective PA by taking a product and pushing it through our our distribution system .

Speaker #3: Now .

Speaker #10: So anything that you buy would be accretive to your existing growth rate , meaning ? Meaning you think that it would that it will day one be a higher growth rate than PA ?

Speaker #10: Or you're saying that you think like , how do you think about the growth rate ? I know that's been a challenge over the years .

Speaker #10: The last couple of deals because you slowed down task , you know , for the big tier one . So I'm just curious how you think about sort of , you know , adding things , you know , day one accretive versus .

Speaker #3: Yep . So you know , historically that's always been the goal . Day one creative . And then the opportunity to accelerate beyond that .

Speaker #3: So that's definitely what we want to try to accomplish .

Speaker #10: All right . And then my second question is you made a comment about something that was in development I guess RFP . Now does that mean that you're because I know you've been sort of , you know , dancing around this whole tier one thing and I clearly you lost one today .

Speaker #10: And I , you know , obviously that restaurant chain is doing very poorly . And it's not crazy for them to renew something when their hair is on fire .

Speaker #10: So it doesn't particularly bother me . But , you know , when I think about , you know , sort of the , the other tier ones , I think you mentioned three and it sounds like at least based on our channel checks , there may be four .

Speaker #10: I mean , how do you think about where you are ? I mean , are you basically saying you won one of the super tier ones , basically because you're saying , well , we went from RFP to development .

Speaker #10: I mean , is that sort of what you're saying ? I mean , obviously there's no press release because there's all this stuff about compliance and , you know , everyone doesn't want to get hacked while they're doing .

Speaker #10: But , I mean , is it fair to assume that one of the tier ones is basically signed and is you're now in the process of rolling out , and can you comment about the other I guess , the other two , and sort of where you be in that process ?

Speaker #3: Unfortunate . I can't comment on any of that on this perspective . I think we're we sit today . We've never felt , you know , more excited about the pipeline .

Speaker #3: That's right in front of us right here . And I think , you know , I think my comments kind of touch where we are in some of it .

Speaker #3: So , you know , as we get information , we can share publicly , I promise we will . We're not trying to be occasionally , it's just we're

Speaker #3: limited what I think you could can say . But , you know , today we feel really good about the pipeline that's in front of us right now .

Speaker #10: So what does it mean to go from RFP to development ? I mean , what does that mean exactly ? I mean .

Speaker #3: Generally , I know and generally the way our business works and it's not the same for everybody . We tend to after we in RP , we get to some form of development .

Speaker #3: Now , it's not a guarantee by any means . You still got to do a lot of work from , from , from there , but it's generally a very good sign .

Speaker #1: Thank you . Our next question comes from the line of Maxwell Michaelis of Lake Street Capital Markets . Your line is now open .

Speaker #11: Hey guys , thanks for taking my question . I want to go back to your comments . In the prepared remarks around PA ordering sounds like a pretty good quarter .

Speaker #11: Wondering if you could give some more information around that segment , as well as sounded like you won a customer with 400 locations in .

Speaker #3: Yeah , it's a tiny it's a tiny product for us today , but it's starting to really , you know , move for us .

Speaker #3: You know , what I think is going to be interesting about it is we feel pretty good that not only can we start to continue to , you know , attach it to our loyalty wins .

Speaker #3: We can also upsell it to our existing customers and hopefully pull in payments alongside of it . So it's a really it's a really nice opportunity for us .

Speaker #3: As I mentioned . And you just suggested , you know , we did win a 400 plus store chain . You know , it was a takeaway from a market leader .

Speaker #3: So we felt great about that . And I think , you know , we're hopeful more of that comes . And , you know , more than anything else I think it's just validation that , you know , the product is now at a point where , you know , we can argue with best in class and we can absolutely argue that if you have additional part , you going to get an experience and outcomes you could not get elsewhere .

Speaker #3: And that's kind of what I meant by some of my comments , which is , you know , and you know , if you see a demo of it and you work in our category , you know , it is one of those things .

Speaker #3: That it's a , oh my gosh , I can't believe somebody finally did that .

Speaker #11: All right . Great . Thanks guys .

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Speaker #1: Your line is now open.

Speaker #12: Hi , and thank you for taking my questions . Just curious if you covered this already , but in the hardware , what happened there seems like there was a nice upside surprise there in the quarter .

Speaker #4: Are you referring to . On the revenue of the margin .

Speaker #12: On the revenue ?

Speaker #4: Sure , sure , sure . So and thanks for the question . We happened was we had pull in . We were referring to this back in Q2 , right ?

Speaker #4: We started seeing orders come in in Q2 for hardware . Kind of pulled in before kind of tariffs were getting impacted from the pricing .

Speaker #4: And so that was the execution . A lot of those actual sales and orders that had gotten Q2 executed and had revenue in Q3 .

Speaker #12: Okay . And then you mentioned the the margin was affected by the tariffs , but you're mitigating those . And you expect them to normalize again in the fourth quarter or correct .

Speaker #4: So , right , those orders came in in Q2 , right before we actually implemented it on a tariff price increase . And so then we've actually implemented that during Q3 .

Speaker #4: So as sales orders kind of burn off into Q4 , that'll be offset .

Speaker #12: Okay . And also you are marketing your , your , you're offering a better together . But how how important is the data that you are generating for your customers in your value proposition ?

Speaker #3: It's hugely valuable . I mean , I think that's why the Better Together is working . As I mentioned , you know , 70 plus percent of our engagement deals .

Speaker #3: Now , the last couple of quarters are multi-product , and I think a huge part of it is because , you know , if you pick our loyalty and our online ordering , you've got one cockpit to manage your digital experience so you can update menus in real time .

Speaker #3: You can import the POS menu into online ordering . You can push it to the third party delivery channels . You can have distinct availability pricing menu on those channels .

Speaker #3: And so that's all data that we organize in a way that I think gives us a really unique , competitive advantage . And that's why we've leaned so heavily into the AI side , because I think , you know , the provider that has the platform .

Speaker #3: You know , as I talked a lot about , also has the data . And I think we can make that data actionable .

Speaker #12: Okay . So your customers have real time access to the data and .

Speaker #3: They do . Yeah . Through coach , I you know , they've got access to real time to run reports so on and so forth .

Speaker #3: And again , I think a lot of what I'm observing is that , you know , you're lowering the bar to , to do work , you know , historically , you know , think of your traditional BI tools , your , your download reports , trying to figure out , you know , what was the margin of this campaign .

Speaker #3: We did or , you know , when should we order this product ? You know , today you can prompt and say , hey , which store should I focus my time on today ?

Speaker #3: Hey , what store creates a great template for me to fix this or what labor schedule is working , or what labor module is working ?

Speaker #3: You can you can now really , really engage . And so , you know , in the past , I think , you know , having a lot of data was almost wasteful because it just gave you too much information .

Speaker #3: Now we can help you , you know , beat decision oriented as opposed to just flooded with lots of reports that confuse you .

Speaker #12: Okay . Thank you . That was all for me .

Speaker #1: Thank you . This concludes the question and answer session . I would now like to turn it back to Chris Burns for closing remarks .

Speaker #2: Thank you . Elliot , and thank you to everyone for joining us today . We appreciate your time . We look forward to updating you in the coming weeks .

Speaker #2: Have a nice evening .