Q3 2025 Organogenesis Holdings Inc Earnings Call

Speaker #3: Please stand by . Welcome , ladies gentlemen , to the third quarter , 2020 Earnings Conference call of Organogenesis Holdings , Incorporated . At this time , all participants have been placed in listen only mode .

Speaker #3: Please note that this conference call is being recorded and that the recording will be available on the company's website for replay shortly . Before we begin , I would like to remind everyone that our remarks today may contain forward looking statements that are based on the current expectations of management and involve inherent risks and uncertainties that could cause and actual results to differ materially from those indicated , including the risks and uncertainties described in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission , including item one , a risk factors of the company's most recent annual report and its filed quarterly reports .

Speaker #3: You are cautioned not to place undue reliance upon any forward looking statements which speak only date made . Although it may voluntarily do so from time to time , the company undertakes no commitment to update or revise the forward looking statements , whether as a result of new information , future events or otherwise .

Speaker #3: Except as required by applicable securities laws . This call will also include references to certain financial subsequently that are not calculated in accordance with the generally accepted accounting principles or GAAP .

Speaker #3: We generally refer to these as non-GAAP financial measures . We of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most comparable measures calculated and presented in accordance with GAAP are available in the earnings press release on the Investor Relations portion of our website .

Speaker #3: I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Gary Gillheeney , senior Organogenesis Holdings Inc. president , Chief Executive Officer and Chair of the board .

Speaker #3: Please go ahead , sir .

Speaker #4: Thank you . Operator and welcome everyone to Organogenesis third quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call . I'm joined on the call today by Dave , our chief Financial officer .

Speaker #4: Let me start with a brief agenda of what we'll cover during our prepared remarks . I'll begin with an overview of our third quarter revenue results and provide an update on key operating and strategic strategic developments in recent months .

Speaker #4: Dave will then provide you with an in-depth review of our third quarter financial results . Our balance sheet and financial condition at quarter end , as well as our financial guidance for 2025 , which we updated in our press release this afternoon .

Speaker #4: Then we'll open up the call for questions . Let me begin with a review of our revenue results for Q3 . We delivered sales results which exceeded the high end of our guidance range outlined in our second quarter call driven primarily by better than expected growth in sales of our advanced wound care products , which increased 31% year over year .

Speaker #4: Sales of our surgical and sports medicine products also performed well , increasing 25% year over year . In the third quarter . The record revenue performance we delivered in the third quarter reflects our team's strong execution and commitment to our strategy to build upon our deep customer relationships and promoting access to existing and recently launched products .

Speaker #4: Despite continued aggressive pricing strategies from our competitors , on October 31st , CMS announced the final Medicare physician fee schedule for the calendar year 2026 .

Speaker #4: As mentioned in our last quarter's earnings call , this is a watershed moment for the industry in the most impactful development in more than a decade , and we congratulate CMS on taking this significant step in payment reform and are pleased CMS finalized skin substitute classifications based on FDA regulatory status and a per square centimeter payment methodology .

Speaker #4: In both the physician office and hospital outpatient settings . We are pleased that CMS has recognized the clinical differentiation of PMA products and has taken steps toward higher payment and expanded access for PMA products .

Speaker #4: We remain committed to working with CMS in other stakeholders to further expand access to these life saving technologies , as well as incentivize investment in innovation in the space and achieve long term market stability .

Speaker #4: We believe this new policy will address abuse under the current system and the resulting rapid escalation in Medicare spending , while ensuring a much needed , consistent payment approach across sites of care .

Speaker #4: With more than 40 years in regenerative medicine and a diverse evidence based portfolio with technologies in each FDA category , we believe we have best positioned in the skin substitute market for 2026 and beyond , and will continue to be a leader in the space with highly innovative , highly efficacious products that deliver on our mission of advancing healing and recovery beyond our customers expectations .

Speaker #4: Before turning the call over to David , I wanted to provide some updates on key clinical and regulatory developments in recent months , beginning with an update on our renew program .

Speaker #4: On September 25th , we announced that the second phase three trial of Renew did not achieve statistical significance for its primary endpoint . Despite demonstrating a numerical improvement in baseline pain reduction that exceeded the results of the first phase three trial , baseline pain reduction at six months for renew was negative 6.9 for the second phase three study , compared to negative 6.0 in the first phase three study .

Speaker #4: Additionally , renew results from the second phase three study continued to demonstrate a favorable safety profile . Given the first phase three trial achieved statistically significant reduction in pain compared to saline , and the second phase three trial demonstrated a numerical improvement in baseline pain reduction that exceeded the results of the first phase three trial .

Speaker #4: We believe these combined results support the potential approval of renew for pain symptoms associated with knee osteoarthritis , included in those patients classified as the most severe renew has been studied in three large RCTs of more than 1300 patients combined .

Speaker #4: Organogenesis believes the totality of this data is compelling evidence for the FDA to review in a Biologic license application . Additionally , FDA granted renew Regenerative Medicine Advanced Therapy , or designation based on renewed , demonstrating the potential to treat an unmet need in symptomatic knee osteoarthritis .

Speaker #4: A serious condition affecting more than 30 million Americans . We have a meeting scheduled for December 12th with the FDA to discuss our submission , including using the combined efficacy analysis from both phase three studies to support a Bla approval .

Speaker #4: We believe gathering robust and comprehensive clinical and real world evidence is an essential component of developing a competitive product portfolio and driving further penetration in the markets where we compete .

Speaker #4: While we did not meet the November 1st submission deadline for new data for LCD coverage consideration in 2026 for pure PLI , Am for DFU in affinity for Vlu .

Speaker #4: These studies and analyses continue and we intend to submit for coverage once they are published . We remain confident in our strong competitive position in the skin substitute market heading into next year .

Speaker #4: We have substantial advantages , including strong brand equity , deep customer relationships and importantly , three highly innovative , highly efficacious commercialized products on the covered list .

Speaker #4: If the LCDs take effect as scheduled on January 1st , 2026 , specifically , our Apligraf product for DFU and Vlu and our Affinity and new shield products for DFU , we have strongly advocated for CMS to implement an integrated coverage and payment policy for the skin Substitute market .

Speaker #4: We believe they have taken the right steps to address rapidly escalating Medicare costs , while ensuring patient access to the most appropriate , clinically effective technologies .

Speaker #4: We believe these changes present an enormous opportunity for organogenesis to serve more patients in will be positive for the long term health of the wound care market beyond 2026 , we expect to advance our competitive position as we leverage our development , engine , fueling new innovation capacity to launch and reintroduce products , including our Dermagraft product , which is already covered for DFU and Vlu under the LCDs strategic investments in expanding the body of clinical evidence supporting our technologies and to transformational opportunity with Renew .

Speaker #4: With that , I'd like to turn the call over to Dave . Thanks , Gary . I'll begin with a review of our third quarter financial results .

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Speaker #5: And unless otherwise specified , all growth rates referenced during my prepared remarks are on a year over year basis . Net product revenue for the third quarter was 150.5 million , up 31% year over year and up 49% sequentially .

Speaker #5: As Gary mentioned , these results came in above the high end of our expectations . We provided on our Q2 call , which called for total revenue in the range of 130 million to 145 million .

Speaker #5: Our Advanced Wound Care net product revenue for the third quarter was $141.5 million, up 31%. As Gary mentioned, the commercial team executed well in the period, building on the momentum that we experienced towards the end of Q2, which we discussed on our last earnings call.

Speaker #5: Net product revenue from surgical and sports medicine products for the third quarter was 9 million , up 25% , primarily due to an increase across the family of products .

Speaker #5: Our total revenue results for the third quarter included 0.4 million of grant income related to the grant issued from the Rhode Island Life Sciences Hub , offsetting our employee related costs in our building Smithfield facility .

Speaker #5: This compares to no impact in the prior year period , and we continue to expect grant income to be immaterial in 2025 . Gross profit for the third quarter was 114.2 million , or 76% of net product revenue , compared to 77% last year .

Speaker #5: The change in gross profit was due primarily to a shift in product mix . Operating expenses for the third quarter were 130.1 million , compared to 108.9 million last year , an increase of 21.2 million , or 19% , excluding cost of goods sold of 36.3 million for the third quarter and 26.8 million last year , our non-GAAP operating expenses for quarter were 93.9 million , compared to 82.1 million last year , an increase of 11.7 million , or 14% .

Speaker #5: The year over year change in operating expenses , excluding cost of goods sold , was driven by a 7.9 million , or 11% increase in G&A expenses .

Speaker #5: A 2.9 million or 28% increase in research and development expenses , the third a $0.9 million write of certain non-recurring expenses . Operating income for the third quarter was 20.7 million , compared to an operating income of 6.2 million last year , an increase of 14.5 million .

Speaker #5: Excluding noncash amortization and certain non-recurring costs in both periods . Our non-GAAP operating income was 23 million , compared to 7.1 million income last year .

Speaker #5: GAAP net income for the third quarter was 21.6 million , compared to a net income of 12.3 million last year , an increase of 9.2 million .

Speaker #5: Net income to common for the third quarter was 14.5 million , compared to a net income of 12.3 million last year . As a reminder , net income to common includes the impacts of the cumulative dividend , the non-cash accretion to redemption value on our convertible preferred stock , and undistributed earnings allocated to participating redeemable convertible preferred stock .

Speaker #5: Adjusted EBITDA for the third quarter was 30.1 million , compared to adjusted EBITDA of 13.4 million last year . Now , turning to the balance sheet .

Speaker #5: As of September 30th , 2025 , the company had 64.4 million in cash . Cash equivalents and restricted cash with no outstanding debt obligations , compared to 136.2 million in cash .

Speaker #5: Cash equivalents and restricted cash with no outstanding debt obligations . As of December 31st , 2024 . On October 31st , 2025 , we amended our credit agreement to better align with the underlying fundamentals of our business .

Speaker #5: The amended credit agreement now provides access to up to 75 million of future borrowings . We believe we are well capitalized with our cash on hand and other components of working capital .

Speaker #5: As of September 30th , 2025 and available under our revolving credit facility and net cash flows from product sales and turning to a review of our 2025 revenue guidance , which we updated in this afternoon's press release .

Speaker #5: For the 12 months ended December 31st , 2025 , the company now expects net revenue of between 500 million and 525 million , representing a year over year increase in the range of 4% to 9% .

Speaker #5: The 2025 net revenue guidance range now assumes net revenue from advanced wound care products of between 470 million and 490 million , representing a year over year increase in the range of 4 to 8% .

Speaker #5: Net revenue from surgical and sports medicine products , between 30 million and 35 million , representing a year over year increase in the range of 6% to 23% , with respect to our profitability and EBITDA guidance , the company now expects GAAP net income in the range of 8.6 million to net income of 25.4 million , compared to a net loss of 6.4 million to net income of 16.4 million previously , EBITDA in the range of 19.1 million to 41.9 million , compared to 6.2 million to 37 million previously .

Speaker #5: non-GAAP adjusted net income in the range of 21.5 million to 38.4 million , compared to 5.5 million to 28.3 million previously . And adjusted EBITDA in the range of 45.5 million to 68.3 million , compared to 31.1 million to 61.9 million previously .

Speaker #5: In addition to our formal financial guidance for 2025 , we are providing some considerations for our modeling purposes . Our profitability guidance for 2025 now assumes gross margins in the range of approximately to 76% .

Speaker #5: GAAP operating expenses , excluding cost of goods sold up 1% to 2% year over year , and excluding non-cash intangible amortization of approximately 3.4 million .

Speaker #5: The non-recurring FDA payment related to our renew Bla filing of 4.6 million , and the 9.8 million write down of assets and restructuring activities in the first nine months of 2025 .

Speaker #5: Our total non-GAAP operating expenses will increase in the range of 3% to 5% year over year . With that , I'll turn the call over to the operator to open up the call for your questions 74% .

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Speaker #3: Thank you . We will take our first question from Ross Osborne from Canada . Fitzgerald , please go ahead .

Speaker #6: Hey , guys . Congrats on the strong quarter and thanks for taking our questions tonight . So starting off would be curious to hear how your conversations are going with the clinical community in terms of when you're expecting physician behavior to change following the PFS , is that , no .

Speaker #6: December this year earlier . Any thoughts ? There ?

Speaker #4: Yeah . So this is Gary Ross . We're starting to see some of that behavior change now . We're clinicians are moving to products that are on the approved LCD list .

Speaker #4: We're seeing some contracts you know , starting to , you know , get processed to get those products on . And apparently get the other products off .

Speaker #4: So we're starting to see some of the administrative behaviors starting now . I'm not you know , I don't think we've seen any sales behavior at this point in time , but we're certainly seeing the pieces being put in place where there'll be a change in utilization going forward based on the physician fee schedule .

Speaker #6: Okay . Got it . And then looking to next year , what can you do from a company standpoint to help generate awareness regarding your products as incremental volume opens up , as many players that were selling higher ASP products won't be able to operate in the market ?

Speaker #4: Well , fortunately , we have strong brand equity for our products and we focus on the clinical efficacy of what our portfolio contains .

Speaker #4: We will continue to message that . I think that plays extremely well in in today's world or into next year's world . We think , you know , with wiser as well .

Speaker #4: You know , getting products that are , you know , are appropriate for use . And we'll get reimbursed . I think Kyrie will carry a lot of weight .

Speaker #4: The clinical evidence of those products will support utilizing those products and will carry a lot of weight . And those are the messages that , you know , we'll continue to to to beat and to make sure the market is aware of of what we have .

Speaker #4: The clinical evidence , the likelihood of reimbursement as a result of being on the LCD and being , you know , appropriate with appropriate data .

Speaker #4: If challenged .

Speaker #6: Thanks for taking our questions . Congrats again .

Speaker #4: Thank you .

Speaker #3: Thank you again . If you'd like to ask a question , please signal by pressing Star one on your telephone keypad . If you're using a speakerphone , please make sure that your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach your equipment .

Speaker #3: Our next question comes from the line of Ryan Zimmerman from Btig . Please go ahead .

Speaker #7: Hi , everyone . This is Izzy on for Ryan . Thank you for taking the questions . So I wanted to start or continue , I guess , on the physician fee schedule for 2026 .

Speaker #7: I was curious how you think the new rates might impact margins as we start to think about our models for next year ?

Speaker #5: Yeah , sure . So I mean , obviously it's a little bit early to be talking about 2026 , but we'll maybe connect on a couple of things around the revenue profile and the margin one as well .

Speaker #5: Again , we're not providing financial guidance today , but I'm glad you asked the question because I think there are several key changes in the marketplace for 2026 that I think people should be , you know , cognizant of .

Speaker #5: First off, you know, with the LCD going into place, there are well over 200 products that will no longer be covered for DFUs and VLUs.

Speaker #5: Under that LCD . That's scheduled right now to go and be enacted on one 126 . As Gary mentioned , his prepared remarks , we have three commercialized products that are covered by the LCD with an additional one in Dermagraft coming back on in the back half of 2027 .

Speaker #5: And those products are New shield , which is a dehydrated amnion that's covered for Dfus affinity , which is a living amnion , which is covered for dfus .

Speaker #5: And then our Apligraf product , which is bioengineered cellular product . And it's the only PMA approved product for both Dfus and Vlu .

Speaker #5: So we're excited about having those on on the covered list . In addition to that , the financial incentives will be dramatically reduced in the marketplace , leveling the playing field , which is what we've been advocating for for quite some time .

Speaker #5: And overall , as Gary mentioned too , we have the brand equity efficacy and service which puts us in a very nice position , which is the attributes that will be competing against in 2026 .

Speaker #5: Once the field is leveled . As I mentioned , and then , of course , we've got a broad portfolio across many different , you know , the different FDA classifications that are addressing multiple indications .

Speaker #5: And then the last piece , I'd say is that the commercial team has done a nice job of pivoting in a dynamic market environment .

Speaker #5: And I think that's indicated over the last couple of years , and certainly in this last quarter . So all those things coming together , I think , you know , there's obviously no implication to the surgical business next year .

Speaker #5: So that's that's one element that you think about . And I think the other components around wound care would be is that our dominant position in the hospital outpatient setting can drive incremental growth , given that the reimbursement there has been unbundled , in addition to that , I think , you know , obviously there's been several new entrants into the market over the last couple of years , and we expect that share that's been lost over the last couple of years to be regained .

Speaker #5: And so we expect to , you know , participate in that . The offset to that is , of course the market has expanded to some extent .

Speaker #5: And we expect that to contract based on over use . And then the last piece , I'd say is overall on the market standpoint , you know , ASPs across the entire market will decline .

Speaker #5: So from that perspective , ours will as well . But there's a couple of other components there . You know , obviously with Apligraf on the market .

Speaker #5: And again, the only PMA-approved product for both DFUs and VLU is a very, very strong product, particularly in HOPD, which will now be reimbursed at a much higher rate than it has been in years past.

Speaker #5: So from our perspective , we see a lot of growth drivers next year . And we also see , you know , improvements in margin and cash flow as well .

Speaker #7: That's very helpful . Thank you . And to your point about ASPs coming down , I was curious if you were surprised at all by the final rate ending up in that 127 range , or is that kind of where you were expecting ?

Speaker #4: Yeah , we I think we were public and thought that it was going to come out finalized at the rate that it it was proposed in the proposed rule .

Speaker #4: We we didn't think that at this point in time , you know , CMS was going to change that rate , though they have indicated that they recognize Pmas have a clinical differentiation and resource costs associated with them .

Speaker #4: And value and expect that that , you know , that reimbursement will will be higher over time and than the 510 case and the 360 ones .

Speaker #4: So I think over time we're going to see a change . And I think one of those will be the Pmas will be separated and perhaps once you know , the market absorbs this change , CMS will take a look and see if that you that rate of 127 for the 360 ones and 510 KS is appropriate or not .

Speaker #4: Or has it really in some way controlled care in any way , shape or form ? But I think they want to see if that's what's going to happen .

Speaker #4: So that's why we think they they left everything out , you know , at what's 127 now the proposed rule is 125 . That's why we felt it would come out at the 125 or something close to it .

Speaker #7: Got it . That's helpful . And then just shifting focus over to renew . I know you're meeting with FDA in December , but I was curious if the initial approval timelines that you had called out before .

Speaker #7: I believe it was late 2026 or early 2027 are still on the table . Given the recent data readout . Thanks for taking the questions .

Speaker #4: Sure. So, we still think there is an opportunity to file, and we'll be filing in a modular form in December.

Speaker #4: If we have a successful meeting with the FDA . But I would I would guide to a two month delay . Is probably safe .

Speaker #4: It's possible we could stay on our current timeline , but two months I think is reasonable based on where we are today and in preparing for that December 12th meeting .

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Speaker #3: That does conclude our conference for today . Thank you for your participation . You may now disconnect .