Q3 2025 Mobile Infrastructure Corp Earnings Call
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Speaker #2: Thank you, Operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review Mobile's Q3, 2025 performance. With us today from Mobile are Stephanie Hogue, CEO; Paul Gohr, CFO; and Manuel Chavez, Executive Chairman.
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Speaker #2: moment, we will hear management statements about the company's results of operations, as of the Q3 of 2025. Before we begin, we would like to remind everyone that today's discussion includes forward-looking statements, including projections and estimates of future events, business or industry trends, or business or financial results.
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Speaker #2: I will now turn the call over to Mobile's CEO, Stephanie Hogue, to discuss Q3, 2025 performance. Stephanie.
Speaker #3: Thank you, Casey. Our Q3 results were comparable to the second quarter, representing resilient performance against the challenging backdrop. Portfolio-level utilization in the quarter was comparable to last year's levels, although revenue and NOI were lighter than expected, as ongoing construction and longer redevelopment timelines continue to have a short-term impact on key assets.
Speaker #3: Our focus continues to be on controlling what we can control, capturing as many monthly consumers as possible, and ensuring the portfolio is in a position to capture the growth and activity around our assets from central business district redevelopment efforts in many of our markets.
Speaker #3: In the third quarter, contract parking volumes continued to trend higher, increasing 1.4% sequentially and growing 8% year to date. While pricing remained competitive, higher utilization typically leads to long-term pricing power, and we expect to see the benefits of these volume gains as business conditions strengthen.
Speaker #3: Transient volumes, while up sequentially, were down approximately 5% year over year, largely driven by softness in hotel and event traffic. Several of our core downtown markets continue to experience temporary defined headwinds, including long construction cycles, event cancellations, and lower hotel occupancy, all of which pressured near-term results.
Speaker #3: While construction is affecting assets, and a handful of our most important micro-markets in the short term, we remain optimistic about the opportunities for long-term value creation at these locations as these projects reach completion and traffic increases.
Speaker #3: Our internal data indicates that hotels in several of our markets saw a decline in occupancy this quarter, including Houston, Denver, Cincinnati, and Nashville, among others.
Speaker #3: In addition, event activity was lighter across our portfolio, influenced by both consumer uncertainty and construction in Fort Worth, Nashville, Cincinnati, and Detroit—four markets that together represent approximately one-third of our stalls and a slightly higher share of the portfolio's transient demand base.
Speaker #3: During the quarter, transient rates expanded modestly. Though not enough to offset the decline in transient traffic, monthly parking remained a buyer's market, with rates modestly down year over year, but they are encouraging signs of continued demand as residential activity strengthens around our assets.
Speaker #3: In today's fluid work environment, Mobile has benefited from a strategic emphasis on residential parking. Capitalizing on multiple demand drivers continues to be one of the strongest indicators of the portfolio's long-term health, and we believe that there is a long runway to continue driving residential mix within garages that were historically reliant on monthly employee parking.
Speaker #3: While the leasing pace at recently converted downtown rental properties is ramping slowly, we are capturing an increased share of current demand and the unit economics on these parkers is desirable.
Speaker #3: Our residential monthly contracts have increased approximately 75% year over year, and are up nearly 60% since year-end. Residential and commercial monthly parking now represent approximately 35% of trailing 12 months' management agreement revenue, providing a stable base of recurring income and giving us greater optionality to experiment with the pricing lever over time.
Speaker #3: As we noted in today's earnings release, we are pleased with the improved performance of several of our assets. We've seen particularly positive trends in Cleveland.
Speaker #3: Transient growth of 8% in the quarter over 2024's Q3 has been complementary with strong growth in residential and commercial monthly contracts, up over 50% year over year.
Speaker #3: Importantly, because assets in Cleveland are approaching stabilized utilization, we've seen an average of 5% rate expansion in monthly contract users, allowing us to hold transient rates stable in a somewhat uncertain environment.
Speaker #3: Downtown Oklahoma City continues to thrive as well. The city's successful metropolitan area projects have committed over $1 billion to 16 projects through 2028. These projects include new sporting arenas, a new entertainment district, and a dense mixed-use urban environment.
Speaker #3: As the 20th largest market in the United States, its ability to host marquee events has driven hotel, event, and transient traffic, and staying ahead of market events has allowed us to drive volumes to stabilize levels of performance.
Speaker #3: The team has continued to focus on creating the best possible customer experience at this garage by engaging with our parking operators on ways to offer a secure and seamless in-and-out experience.
Speaker #3: These examples continue to reinforce our broader point. Transient traffic will ebb and flow, but our focus of recurring contract-based parking creates the foundation for durable performance.
Speaker #3: In Cincinnati, a market in which we have three core assets: transient traffic continues to be significantly impacted by the temporary closure of the Convention Center.
Speaker #3: Despite the disruptions, our assets have performed remarkably well. Contract volume is up 15% year over year, supported by residential demand, and we anticipate a step change in performance beginning in the first quarter of 2026 when the convention center is scheduled to reopen.
Speaker #3: Of course, while we expect a material step change in that district's activities, we note that construction projects near many of our assets simply have taken longer than original schedules dictated.
Speaker #3: In Detroit, as we've previously discussed, monthly parkers have been leaving faster than expected ahead of the Renaissance Center's multi-year redevelopment, which is scheduled to begin in early 2026.
Speaker #3: During the construction period, we expect this asset to operate as a transient heavy garage, serving both visitors and the construction workforce. Over the longer term, we remain confident that this asset will benefit significantly once the redevelopment is complete.
Speaker #3: To this point, a recent appraisal on this asset supports our belief that the value of Renson Garage could increase by more than 50% when the project is completed.
Speaker #3: Earlier this year, we shared mobile strategy to unlock substantial value by segmenting the portfolio into core and non-core assets. From a balance sheet perspective, this strategy had a nuanced hurdle because several of the non-core assets in our legacy portfolio were captured in CMBS debt, which restricted our ability to rotate assets out and add more creative assets to the portfolio.
Speaker #3: We announced last week that we completed an ABS transaction, which Paul will discuss more fully. This transaction provides the needed flexibility for our plan to optimize our portfolio.
Speaker #3: Consistent with the asset rotation strategy, we closed on the sale of a small non-core lot last week. And I am pleased to report that we expect to have sold or be in contract to sell approximately $30 million in non-core assets by the end of the year, consistent with the capital plan we announced earlier this year.
Speaker #3: With a robust acquisition pipeline, we will strategically balance acquiring new assets with optimizing the balance sheet through debt paydowns where appropriate. And finally, as we think about diversification of revenue streams, we are seeing a growing recognition that EV charging is no longer simply an amenity to be offered to tenants.
Speaker #3: Historically, this appealed to consumers, but generated no return on investment for owners, as parkers would simply park and stay rather than move their vehicles.
Speaker #3: A dynamic that limits profitability in EV charging because it relies upon vehicle turnover. Our best EV partners are helping us manage the retraining of the consumer in this space.
Speaker #3: We continue to make measured investments in this area, focusing on locations where utilization and pricing support longer-term profitability. This will continue to evolve as the industry shifts from viewing EV charging as a cost center to viewing it as a contributor to net operating income.
Speaker #3: With that, I'll turn it over to Paul Gohr for a financial review.
Speaker #2: Good afternoon, everyone. I am pleased to discuss the financial details of our third quarter 2025 results. Revenue was $9.1 million in the third quarter.
Speaker #2: Compared with $9.8 million in the third quarter of 2024. The lower year-over-year revenue was primarily due to lower transient volumes reflecting lower nearby hotel occupancy, the reduced number of special events, and lower associated attendance, as well as continued construction-related impacts at several of our locations, as we have discussed in the past.
Speaker #2: The decline in transient volume was partially offset by increased transient rate. Rate speaks to the value of our locations and will be helpful as demand increases.
Speaker #2: Revenue per available stall, or Revpass, a key metric we use to manage our portfolio, was $212 in the third quarter of 2025, consistent with our second quarter, but down 7.1% from $228 in the third quarter of 2024.
Speaker #2: Resulting from the factors I just mentioned. Adjusting for our Detroit location, which is one of the largest assets in the mobile portfolio, Revpass increased modestly sequentially, but was down 4.8% year to year.
Speaker #2: As we've discussed before, at our Detroit location, redevelopment is actively underway, so while it has some near-term challenges, longer-term, the asset is extremely well-positioned.
Speaker #2: We see Revpass as a valuable tool to track our assets, particularly as we convert more assets to management contracts. Any larger portion of our portfolio is included in the calculation.
Speaker #2: Property taxes remained consistent with the prior year at 1.8 million. Property operating expenses were also flat at 1.8 million for the third quarter of 2025, benefiting from our disciplined cost management.
Speaker #2: Net operating income, or NOI, was $5.5 million, up modestly sequentially but down from the $6.1 million in last year's third quarter. The decrease was a function of the lower transient volumes year over year.
Speaker #2: General and administrative expenses of 1.3 million were in line with the prior year third quarter. This excluded non-cash compensation of 0.8 million in the current year quarter.
Speaker #2: Compared with 1.3 million non-cash compensation in the prior year quarter. We continue to be well-positioned to enjoy operating leverage as we scale the business.
Speaker #2: Adjusted EBITDA was 3.9 million. Up modestly sequentially, but down about 10% from the 4.4 million in the prior year. An adjusted EBITDA margin was 42.6%.
Speaker #2: Turning to our balance sheet, at the end of the quarter, we had 12.1 million of cash in restricted cash on hand. We ended the quarter with total debt outstanding of $213 million, stable with both the second quarter and the end of 2024.
Speaker #2: Importantly, as Stephanie mentioned, at the end of the third quarter, we successfully completed a $100 million refinancing via an asset-backed securitization of 19 of our facilities.
Speaker #2: The notes received an investment grade rating of BBB and a private letter from a Big Three rating agency. With the proceeds, we refinanced $84.4 million of near-term debt.
Drew 30000, plus people on foot and Nashville, The second Street closure will open in December So we should start to see some of that ease in Q4.
But towards the end of Q4 and really we're looking into 2026, where we start to see some real year over year pickup and how those markets perform.
Okay.
I guess, maybe as we think about the $30 million of potential sales that you talked about on the call.
Where do you think the use of proceeds from that go.
Buying back the stock as the capital recycling as it may be paying down the line of credit just kind of curious.
Where how much.
Net you think you'll get out of those deals and where the proceeds go.
Yes, great question.
They were always evaluating the best possible place to place capital. So looking at that capital allocation I think right now we have a long acquisition pipeline, but I think in the near term, we'll focus on repaying the line of credit.
But certainly considering as the acquisition pipeline pipeline shifts.
That's more accretive to shareholders, we're evaluating with them.
Our broader board every months, but near term, we will focus on line of credit.
Okay and then.
Then.
Maybe Kevin detailed front, what was the impairment in the quarter.
The impairment.
$2 5 million was just related to our normal testing that we do every quarter.
And evaluating.
Fair value of the properties and it does just coincided with our.
Sure.
Asset rotation strategy and the evaluation that went along with that.
Okay. So its coming primarily out of the bucket of properties, you're looking to sell here by year end.
Yes.
Okay.
And then last one from me on the ABS front.
What kind of made that transaction.
Corrective is that more about.
Pricing or as you look like a flexibility you get with that deal on the distribution side that was there with some of your kind of a needle.
The debt the debt financing that was in place on those assets prior to the ABS transaction.
Yes, it's a great question.
So really we talked about it in the script the ability to sell assets the non core assets as we've lined those up so many of them start in the <unk>, which is why we were able to execute on one within a week of closing on the ABS.
This is starting to set the balance sheet up for what we've talked about and using it as a tool for continued accretion to shareholders with more accretive properties.
Okay.
I'll hop back in the queue. Thank you so much for all the answers.
Sean.
Thank you.
And our next question comes from the line of Kevin Steinke with Barrington Research.
Great. Thank you.
Wanted to.
Dig into the outlook, a little bit more it sounds like.
Hedge wins in transient.
Or kind of the main contributor there.
I think you talked about maybe a couple of markets I hadn't heard before with some disruption like.
Worse in Houston.
Is there anything incremental.
You have seen with disruption are softer.
Transient trends relative to what.
What you were seeing on your your last call.
Yeah, a lot of the transient and those two in particular is around construction either construction that is new in the quarter or just taking longer Fort worth for example, the convention center is having some upgrades. So we anticipate like with most things the construction over the longer term will be positive for the portfolio.
It just sort of hits in the short term and either prevent access or just decreased demand around transient specifically.
Okay. Thanks.
You talked about.
Some of the improved performance.
A couple of your assets.
Cleveland, Oklahoma City, and then you also mentioned the actions are underway to improve retention and utilization at other assets that you expect will begin driving improved performance in 2026, So can you.
Just maybe dig a little bit into the actions youre, taking and what how.
How do you think thats going to drive the improved performance next year.
Yeah.
The biggest item that we focus on is utilization and so as we've talked about on prior earnings calls, it's really arming and partnering with our operators on monthly contracts, making sure that we're driving both residential and to the extent Theres returned to office in a market commercial which gives us a really stable base. So we will.
To focus on that that was a heavy focus and fourth quarter of last year in Cleveland, which is where we're starting to see that pick up.
That will continue to be a focus and we talked about that in Cincinnati as well.
That's really the.
The focus area and then beyond that once you get to a stabilized level of utilization than you. Then you really start to have the lever around pricing.
Whether that is specific to event or just across the board, but utilization has to be the first step.
Okay got it.
And so it sounds like some some good trends in the.
Residential.
Monthly contract growth.
Did anything meaningfully changed there with.
Contract additions kind of either positive or negative relative.
What you were seeing several months ago.
I think the only thing that's really changed store.
Not been as expected, it's just taking longer for the lease ups of the apartments themselves.
Once once they're leased we're in pretty good position, we're well priced we have.
Sort of nested areas for parkers that are near elevators, so theres premium pricing and premium product.
Its really down to leasing and the time, it's taking for our assets to lease which is slower than we thought.
Okay got it and then.
With.
The new.
ABS.
Refinancing.
Does that now kind of pre up all the.
Non core assets that you were hoping to sell or that were that had the <unk> that are there.
Others that you still need to address.
No that was that was it.
So that was really why it was such a critical piece of the balance sheet for this quarter.
Okay got it.
And so I guess lastly, it sounds like.
The Cincinnati Convention Center is on track.
With where you expected it before in terms of reopening.
Just wanted to confirm that you haven't seen any delays there.
Yes.
Might impact your performance.
Different than what you expected previously.
No we're really really excited about it its lease.
Event schedule is filling out well so we have seven confirmed events for the first quarter, which as you know is typically our slowest quarter.
That will positively impact all three garages as early as mid January So we're really excited about it were positive.
A positive trend for this particular micro market in Cincinnati and no changes that we're aware of at this point.
Okay. Thanks appreciate you taking the questions.
Yes. Thank you.
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And our next question comes from the line of Marc Riddick with Sidoti.
Hey, good evening.
Hey, Mark.
So I wanted to touch a little bit on some of the drivers.
Mentioned.
In your prepared remarks, I was thinking about around the hotel and the band activity you touched on some of the conference activity.
You see picking up in the next quarter or so maybe you could talk a little bit about maybe sort of a it seemed as though if I remember correctly, it's kind of a difficult comparison and then some of the consumer driven.
Events, and maybe hotel drivers, maybe you could touch a little bit on what youre seeing there and if thats just sort of a general macro situations.
Sure.
It's more micro it's more market specific than a generalization across each market has its own kind of impacts Detroit for example.
That that has turned into a transient garage is much more quickly than we expected because of the Renaissance center redevelopment, but we think thats really positive.
We're Chicago just had hotel down so it's really specific to market.
Across the board.
Okay, and then you made mentioned on utilization.
Couple of remarks, I think the commentary was that on a portfolio level. It was it was basically.
Basically flat sequentially was there much of a difference between the.
I guess, maybe the core and noncore.
Assets as far as utilization levels and how much room do do we have.
Runaway bandwidth I guess that we have to sort of get too.
Not necessarily peak, but the utilization levels you'd like to see.
Yeah, I mean, I think first and foremost I think the fact that they are the utilization for the portfolio was flat is really an achievement given the transient is softer this year than we expected.
That really speaks to our focus on monthly contracts, both on residential and commercial and capturing the market. That's there so as the as the more transient side of the business picks up we will see that incremental change in utilization just naturally happen.
Four noncore that we look at them comparably certainly our focus is driving NOI. So we're focused on the same statements across various markets driving.
Utilization driving monthly contracts and driving rate once we have a stabilized utilization so there's not a ton of.
Not a lot of difference between between the two.
And it seems as though some of the things that you.
Mentioned four.
Improving conditions going into next year would sort of be a natural beneficiary to wrap us.
Is it a reasonable is there sort of a reasonable growth level that we might be looking at potentially for for going into next year or is it too early for that.
It's probably a little too early for that I think we're anticipating will be are anticipating giving guidance with our year end results in March So we'll dive and specifically then.
Okay, Great and then I guess, maybe last one for me.
Is there much in the way of room for.
Expense management.
I'm sure you've already been doing that but I'm sort of curious as to maybe what youre seeing there and some of the efforts there as far as amount.
Managing the expenses in.
In the markets that were sort of impacted by things that are sort of beyond your control.
We absolutely always focus on expense management, and it's really wide transitioning the business to management agreements was so critical because we get we now have that insight.
To the extent, we have that opportunity to pull back on expenses, whether it's payroll or technology fees. We are always looking at ways to optimize.
We've talked about in the past this is a largely fixed cost business. So once you get to that stabilized basis, it's pretty fixed.
Great. Thank you very much.
Yeah. Thanks Mark.
Thank you.
We have a follow up from John <unk> with B Riley Securities.
Just a quick one for me what are you expecting roughly the NOI impact to be from the $30 million of sales either kind of a cap rate on.
The weighted average cap rate on those transactions or just kind of what the what the drag on NOI it could be from selling those assets.
Yes, it's fairly nominal it's under a $1 million from an NOI perspective, and subsidiary cap four cap rate.
I appreciate the detail that's great. Thanks.
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