Q3 2025 Grupo Supervielle SA Earnings Call

Speaker #1: recorded. Good morning and

Ana Bartesaghi: Good morning and welcome to Grupo Supervielle Q4 2025 earnings call. I'm Ana Bartesaghi, treasurer and IRO. Today's conference call is being recorded. For the Q&A session, please ensure your full name appears on Zoom. You can ask questions by voice or through the Q&A box. Speaking today are Patricia Supervielle, our chairman and CEO, and Mariano Biglia, our CFO. We're also pleased to welcome Alejandro Caterberg, president of Foliarquía Consultores, one of Argentina's leading political analysts, who will briefly share his perspectives on the post-election political and reform outlook.

Speaker #2: Welcome to Grupo Supervielle's 3rd quarter 2025 earnings call. I'm Ana Bartesaghi, Treasurer and IRO. Today's conference call is being recorded. For the Q&A session, please ensure your full name appears on Zoom.

Speaker #2: You can ask questions by voice or through the Q&A box. Speaking today are Patricia Supervielle, our Chairman and CEO, and Mariano Biglia, our CFO.

Speaker #2: We're also pleased to welcome Alejandro Caterberg, President of Polyarchia Consultores, one of Argentina's leading political analysts, who will briefly share his perspectives on the post-election political and reform outlook.

Speaker #2: Gustavo Paco Manriquez, Banco Supervielle CEO, and Diego Pizzulli, CEO of Invertir Online, will also be available during the Q&A session. Before we begin, please note this call may include forward-looking statements.

Ana Bartesaghi: Gustavo Manriquez, Banco Supervielle CEO, and Diego Pizzulli, CEO of InvertirOnline, will also be available during the Q&A session. Before we begin, please note this call may include forward-looking statements. Please refer to our earnings release and SEC filings for further details.

Gustavo Manriquez, Banco Supervielle CEO, and Diego Pizzulli, CEO of InvertirOnline, will also be available during the Q&A session. Before we begin, please note this call may include forward-looking statements. Please refer to our earnings release and SEC filings for further details.

Speaker #2: Please refer to our earnings release and SEC filings for further details.

Speaker #3: Ana, good morning everyone and thank you for joining us today. Let me begin with a broader macro perspective, which is quite encouraging. Following the recent midterm elections, Argentina is entering a new era.

Patricio Supervielle: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Let me begin with a broader macro perspective, which is quite encouraging. Following the recent midterm elections, Argentina is entering a new era. The path toward normalization and reform is gradually taking shape, and the financial system is poised to play a critical role in enabling this transition. We see the expansion of credit and a more dynamic banking sector as essential drivers of sustained economic recovery and inclusive growth. In this new environment, we are committed to returning to deliver profitability and sustained, long-term value. We are doing so supported by strategic initiatives that continue to unlock the full value of our franchise. While we are optimistic about the future, the most recent quarter presented some challenges.

Patricio Supervielle: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Let me begin with a broader macro perspective, which is quite encouraging. Following the recent midterm elections, Argentina is entering a new era. The path toward normalization and reform is gradually taking shape, and the financial system is poised to play a critical role in enabling this transition. We see the expansion of credit and a more dynamic banking sector as essential drivers of sustained economic recovery and inclusive growth. In this new environment, we are committed to returning to deliver profitability and sustained, long-term value. We are doing so supported by strategic initiatives that continue to unlock the full value of our franchise. While we are optimistic about the future, the most recent quarter presented some challenges.

Speaker #3: The path toward normalization and reform is gradually taking shape, and the financial system is poised to play a critical role in enabling this transition.

Speaker #3: We see the expansion of credit and a more dynamic banking sector as essential drivers of sustained economic recovery and inclusive growth. In this new environment, we are committed to returning to deliver profitability and sustained long-term value.

Speaker #3: And we are doing so supported by strategic initiatives that continue to unlock the full value of our franchise. While we are optimistic about the future, the most recent quarter presented some challenges.

Speaker #3: Systemic pressures and a very tight monetary policy, characterized by unsustainably high real interest rates and historic reserve requirements ahead of the elections, had a severe impact on economic activity and, particularly, the entire banking sector.

Patricio Supervielle: Systemic pressures and a very tight monetary policy characterized by unsustainably high real interest rates and historic reserve requirements ahead of the elections had a severe impact on economic activity, and particularly the entire banking sector. This dynamic significantly compressed financial margins and constrained lending capacity. As a result, we recorded a net loss of ARS 50.3 billion in Q3 2025. Encouragingly, we are now beginning to see early signs of stabilization. Post-election confidence is improving. Interest rates have declined sharply, with room for additional reduction, and monetary conditions are slowly easing. As we consider what these early improvements may signal for the broader environment, Alejandro Caterberg will briefly discuss the political landscape and what's ahead for the government reform agenda. First, let me quickly walk you through a few highlights from the quarter on the following slide.

Systemic pressures and a very tight monetary policy characterized by unsustainably high real interest rates and historic reserve requirements ahead of the elections had a severe impact on economic activity, and particularly the entire banking sector. This dynamic significantly compressed financial margins and constrained lending capacity. As a result, we recorded a net loss of ARS 50.3 billion in Q3 2025. Encouragingly, we are now beginning to see early signs of stabilization. Post-election confidence is improving. Interest rates have declined sharply, with room for additional reduction, and monetary conditions are slowly easing. As we consider what these early improvements may signal for the broader environment, Alejandro Caterberg will briefly discuss the political landscape and what's ahead for the government reform agenda. First, let me quickly walk you through a few highlights from the quarter on the following slide.

Speaker #3: This dynamic significantly compressed financial margins and constrained lending capacity. As a result, we recorded a net loss of ARS 50.3 billion. In Q3 2025, encouragingly, we are now beginning to see early signs of stabilization.

Speaker #3: Post-election confidence is improving; interest rates have declined sharply, with room for additional reduction, and monetary conditions are slowly easing. As we consider what these early improvements may signal for the broader environment, Alejandro Caterberg will briefly discuss the political landscape and what's ahead for the government reform agenda.

Speaker #3: But first, let me quickly walk you through a few highlights from the quarter on the following slide. Starting with loan growth, which remains solid at up 8% in real terms, slightly ahead of the system.

Patricio Supervielle: Starting with loan growth, which remained solid, up 8% in real terms, slightly ahead of the system. Growth was led by the corporate segment, while retail declined slightly as we further tightened origination standards. Asset quality weakened, as expected, with the NPL ratio rising to 3.9%, mainly driven by the retail side. However, our NPL share of individual loans remains below our retail loan share, highlighting our focus on payroll and pension customers. On the funding side, deposit growth was strong, up 15% quarter on quarter in real terms, and over 40% year on year. Dollar deposits climbed to another record high, up 31% sequentially. Our remunerated account strategy continues to gain traction and helps deepen client relationships. Profitability was most impacted, mainly due to margin compression and a higher cost of risk.

Starting with loan growth, which remained solid, up 8% in real terms, slightly ahead of the system. Growth was led by the corporate segment, while retail declined slightly as we further tightened origination standards. Asset quality weakened, as expected, with the NPL ratio rising to 3.9%, mainly driven by the retail side. However, our NPL share of individual loans remains below our retail loan share, highlighting our focus on payroll and pension customers. On the funding side, deposit growth was strong, up 15% quarter on quarter in real terms, and over 40% year on year. Dollar deposits climbed to another record high, up 31% sequentially. Our remunerated account strategy continues to gain traction and helps deepen client relationships. Profitability was most impacted, mainly due to margin compression and a higher cost of risk.

Speaker #3: Growth was led by the corporate segment, while retail declined slightly as we further tightened origination standards. Asset quality weakened as expected, with the NPL ratio rising to 3.9%, mainly driven by the retail side.

Speaker #3: However, our NPL ratio share of individuals remains below our retail loan share, highlighting our focus on payroll and pension customers. On the funding side, deposit growth was strong, up 15% quarter on quarter in real terms.

Speaker #3: And over 40% year-on-year. Dollar deposits climbed to another record high, up 31% sequentially. Our remunerated account strategy continues to gain traction, helping deepen client relationships, mainly due to these connections.

Speaker #3: Margin compression and a higher cost of risk. Partially, profitability was most mitigating this. We maintain a tight control on cost, which declined 2% quarter on quarter and 12% year to date in real terms.

Patricio Supervielle: Partially mitigating this, we maintain a tight control on cost, which declined 2% quarter on quarter and 12% year to date in real terms. We maintain a sound capital base to support growth as monetary policy continues to ease and loan demand resumes. Our CET1 ratio reached 13.2% at quarter end and rose to 14.5% in October, supported by lower deferred asset tax deductions. We are on track with executing our strategies, scaling our Super App, enhancing customer engagement, and expanding cross-sell opportunities, particularly at IOL, where we saw another strong quarter of volume and fee growth. While the quarter had its challenges, we are focused on controlling what we can control and continue to invest in our business to further advance our competitive position and ensure long-term success. With that, I'll hand it over to Mariano to go deeper into our financial performance and perspectives.

Partially mitigating this, we maintain a tight control on cost, which declined 2% quarter on quarter and 12% year to date in real terms. We maintain a sound capital base to support growth as monetary policy continues to ease and loan demand resumes. Our CET1 ratio reached 13.2% at quarter end and rose to 14.5% in October, supported by lower deferred asset tax deductions. We are on track with executing our strategies, scaling our Super App, enhancing customer engagement, and expanding cross-sell opportunities, particularly at IOL, where we saw another strong quarter of volume and fee growth. While the quarter had its challenges, we are focused on controlling what we can control and continue to invest in our business to further advance our competitive position and ensure long-term success. With that, I'll hand it over to Mariano to go deeper into our financial performance and perspectives.

Speaker #3: We maintain a sound capital base to support growth as monetary policy continues to ease and loan demand resumes. Our CTR1 ratio reached 13.2% at quarter-end and rose to 14.5% in October, supported by lower deferred asset tax deductions.

Speaker #3: We are on track with executing our strategies, scaling our super app, enhancing customer engagement, and expanding cross-sell opportunities, particularly at YOL, where we saw another strong quarter of volume and fee growth.

Speaker #3: While the quarter had its challenges, we are focused on controlling what we can control and continue to invest in our business to further advance our competitive position and ensure long-term success.

Speaker #3: That, I'll hand it over to Mariano to go deeper into our financial performance and perspectives.

Mariano Biglia: Thank you, Patricio, and good day to all. Our Q3 results were heavily impacted by temporary macro and regulatory headwinds, which drove a 43% sequential decline in net financial income. With one-day interest rates increasing to a peak of over 90% and 150% when adjusted by reserve requirements, funding costs increased by ARS 56 billion. Deposit rates adjusted almost immediately, while long repricing lagged due to longer duration, creating a temporary squeeze on spreads. Additionally, local market volatility ahead of the midterm elections impacted bond prices, resulting in weaker investment portfolio yields. In parallel, the central bank raised minimum reserve requirements by over 23 percentage points and moved compliance from a monthly average to a daily basis, further tightening liquidity, which had a negative impact of nearly ARS 21 billion.

Mariano Biglia: Thank you, Patricio, and good day to all. Our Q3 results were heavily impacted by temporary macro and regulatory headwinds, which drove a 43% sequential decline in net financial income. With one-day interest rates increasing to a peak of over 90% and 150% when adjusted by reserve requirements, funding costs increased by ARS 56 billion. Deposit rates adjusted almost immediately, while long repricing lagged due to longer duration, creating a temporary squeeze on spreads. Additionally, local market volatility ahead of the midterm elections impacted bond prices, resulting in weaker investment portfolio yields. In parallel, the central bank raised minimum reserve requirements by over 23 percentage points and moved compliance from a monthly average to a daily basis, further tightening liquidity, which had a negative impact of nearly ARS 21 billion.

Speaker #4: Good day to all. Our Q3 2025 results were heavily impacted by temporary macro and regulatory headwinds, which drove a 43% sequential decline in net financial income. Thank you, Patricio.

Speaker #4: With one-day interest rates increasing to a peak of over 90% and 150% when adjusted by reserve requirements, funding costs increased by $56 billion. Deposit rates adjusted almost immediately, while long repricing lags due to longer duration, creating a temporary squeeze on spreads.

Speaker #4: Additionally, local market volatility ahead of the midterm elections impacted bond prices, resulting in weaker investment portfolio yields. In parallel, the central bank raised minimum reserve requirements by over 23 percentage points and moved compliance from a monthly average to a daily basis, further tightening liquidity, which had an effective negative impact of nearly $21 billion.

Speaker #4: Lastly, the sharp rise in real interest rates generated a negative spread on our UVA mortgage portfolio, which impacted financial margin by close to $18 billion.

Mariano Biglia: Lastly, the sharp rise in real interest rates generated a negative spread on our UVA Mortgage Portfolio, which impacted financial margins by close to ARS 18 billion. As a result, our peso NIM declined to 11.7%, and total NIM fell to 10.8%, down 1,100 basis points and 1,000 basis points, respectively, quarter over quarter. Let's now turn to the next slide to review our 2025. Turning to slide five, we are resetting our expectations for full year 2025. We now anticipate real loan growth of between 35% to 40%, led by corporate lending, with retail gradually resuming growth as disposable income improves. Deposits are forecast to grow 30% to 35%, with further share gains in US dollar-denominated deposit balances. Regarding asset quality, we now expect an NPL ratio between 4.7% to 5.1%, reflecting asset quality trends among consumers, and the result of the more challenging environment in recent months.

Lastly, the sharp rise in real interest rates generated a negative spread on our UVA Mortgage Portfolio, which impacted financial margins by close to ARS 18 billion. As a result, our peso NIM declined to 11.7%, and total NIM fell to 10.8%, down 1,100 basis points and 1,000 basis points, respectively, quarter over quarter. Let's now turn to the next slide to review our 2025. Turning to slide five, we are resetting our expectations for full year 2025. We now anticipate real loan growth of between 35% to 40%, led by corporate lending, with retail gradually resuming growth as disposable income improves. Deposits are forecast to grow 30% to 35%, with further share gains in US dollar-denominated deposit balances. Regarding asset quality, we now expect an NPL ratio between 4.7% to 5.1%, reflecting asset quality trends among consumers, and the result of the more challenging environment in recent months.

Speaker #4: As a result, our peso NIM declined to 11.7%, and total NIM fell to 10.8%, down 1,100 basis points and 1,000 basis points, respectively, quarter over quarter.

Speaker #4: Let's now turn to the next slide to review our 2025. Turning to slide five, we are resetting our expectations for the full year 2025. We now anticipate real loan growth of between 35% to 40%, led by corporate lending, with retail gradually resuming growth as disposable income improves.

Speaker #4: Deposits are forecast to grow 30% to 35%, with further share gains in U.S. dollar-denominated deposit balances. Regarding asset quality, we now expect an NPL ratio between 4.7% and 5.1%, reflecting asset quality trends among consumers and the result of the more challenging environment in recent months.

Speaker #4: Consequently, the net cost of risk is now projected at 6.3%. NIM is 5.8% and is now anticipated to be between 15% to 18% as high interest rates and reserve requirements through late October weigh on Q4 results.

Mariano Biglia: Consequently, net cost of risk is now projected at 5.8% to 6.3%. NIM is now anticipated between 15% to 18% as high interest rates and reserve requirements through late October wait on four-year results. Turning to slide six, we now forecast net fee income growth of 5% in real terms. We are reinforcing our focus on operational efficiencies, including reductions in headcount and non-staff expenses. We now expect operating expenses in real terms to decline 8% to 10%. We now expect full year ROE to range between negative 5% and 0%. Lastly, we anticipate ending the year with a CET1 ratio between 12.5% and 13.5%. Looking ahead, we intend to provide a 2026 preliminary outlook of key variables early next year, once there is greater clarity around reserve requirements, liquidity conditions, economic activity, and the broader macroeconomic framework.

Consequently, net cost of risk is now projected at 5.8% to 6.3%. NIM is now anticipated between 15% to 18% as high interest rates and reserve requirements through late October wait on four-year results. Turning to slide six, we now forecast net fee income growth of 5% in real terms. We are reinforcing our focus on operational efficiencies, including reductions in headcount and non-staff expenses. We now expect operating expenses in real terms to decline 8% to 10%. We now expect full year ROE to range between negative 5% and 0%. Lastly, we anticipate ending the year with a CET1 ratio between 12.5% and 13.5%. Looking ahead, we intend to provide a 2026 preliminary outlook of key variables early next year, once there is greater clarity around reserve requirements, liquidity conditions, economic activity, and the broader macroeconomic framework.

Speaker #4: Turning to slide six, we now forecast net fee income growth of 5% in real terms. We are reinforcing our focus on operational efficiencies, including reductions in headcount and non-staff expenses.

Speaker #4: We now expect operating expenses in real terms to decline by 8% to 10%. We now expect full-year ROE to range between negative 5% and 0%.

Speaker #4: Lastly, we anticipate ending the year with a CET1 ratio between 12.5% and 13.5%. Looking ahead, we intend to provide a 2026 preliminary outlook of key variables early next year.

Speaker #4: Once there is greater clarity around reserve requirements, liquidity conditions, economic activity, and the broader macroeconomic framework, additional details on our quarterly performance and outlook are available in the appendix of our earnings presentation.

Mariano Biglia: Additional details on our quarterly performance and outlook are available in the appendix of our earnings presentation. This concludes our prepared remarks. We are pleased to welcome Alejandro Caterberg for a brief overview of Argentina's political outlook before we move to Q&A.

Additional details on our quarterly performance and outlook are available in the appendix of our earnings presentation. This concludes our prepared remarks. We are pleased to welcome Alejandro Caterberg for a brief overview of Argentina's political outlook before we move to Q&A.

Speaker #4: This concludes our prepared remarks. We are pleased to welcome Alejandro Katterberg, for a brief overview of Argentina's political outlook before we move to

Speaker #5: Thank you, thank you, Patricio, Ana. Thank you for having me here. Thank you, people, for joining. My idea is just to give a brief analysis of what happened or what the election gave us and what are the scenarios that we should start thinking from now on for Argentina.

Alejandro Caterberg: Thank you. Thank you for the invitation, Patricio. Ana, thank you for having me here. Thank you, people, for joining. Now, my idea is just to give a brief analysis of what happened or what the election gave us, and what are the scenarios that we should start thinking from now on for Argentina. I would like to make basically four points, and then I don't know if we have time for Q&As. Happy to answer. Number one is that after a year of huge volatility and uncertainty, a big number of self-inflicted mistakes and damage by the government, it ended up quite positive for the government.

Alejandro Caterberg: Thank you. Thank you for the invitation, Patricio. Ana, thank you for having me here. Thank you, people, for joining. Now, my idea is just to give a brief analysis of what happened or what the election gave us, and what are the scenarios that we should start thinking from now on for Argentina. I would like to make basically four points, and then I don't know if we have time for Q&As. Happy to answer. Number one is that after a year of huge volatility and uncertainty, a big number of self-inflicted mistakes and damage by the government, it ended up quite positive for the government.

Speaker #5: I would like to make basically four points, and then I don't know if we have time for Q&As. I'm happy to answer. Number one is that after a year of huge volatility and uncertainty—along with a big number of self-inflicted mistakes and damage by the government—it ended up quite positive for the government.

Speaker #5: Of course, as we all know, the election ended up being better than expected a few weeks or months before the election. Probably worse than what the government could have gotten if they decided to follow a different strategy and path by the beginning of the year.

Alejandro Caterberg: Now, of course, as we all know, the election ended up being better than expected a few weeks or months before the election, probably worse than what the government could have got if they decided to follow a different strategy and path by the beginning of the year. That is in the past. Basically, with the result of the election, the government had a huge opportunity to begin the second stage of their administration with a lot of control, in political control, and with huge opportunities in front of them. A few numbers of trends had been confirmed by what happened this year, and especially in the elections. Number one, it's something that some of you hear me before saying, is that we have a confirmation that we have a huge change in the political cycle.

Now, of course, as we all know, the election ended up being better than expected a few weeks or months before the election, probably worse than what the government could have got if they decided to follow a different strategy and path by the beginning of the year. That is in the past. Basically, with the result of the election, the government had a huge opportunity to begin the second stage of their administration with a lot of control, in political control, and with huge opportunities in front of them. A few numbers of trends had been confirmed by what happened this year, and especially in the elections. Number one, it's something that some of you hear me before saying, is that we have a confirmation that we have a huge change in the political cycle.

Speaker #5: But that is in the past. But basically, with the result of the election, the government had a huge opportunity to begin the second stage of their administration with a lot of control in political control and with huge opportunities in front of them.

Speaker #5: A few numbers of trends have been confirmed by what happened this year, especially in the elections. Number one, it's something that some of you have heard me say before: we have confirmation that we are experiencing a huge change in the political cycle.

Speaker #5: The political cycle that lasted for 20 years and was dominated by the Kirchner administration and the other side of the same coin, Macri, was over in 2023.

Alejandro Caterberg: The political cycle that lasts for 20 years and that was basically dominated by the Kirchner and the other hand of the same coin, Macri, was over in 2023. This election cycle basically confirmed that. We no longer had Junto por el Cambio. All of the parties that were part from Junto por el Cambio suffered huge defeats, or very bad electoral results. The Radical Party performed or got less than 1% at the national stage. They lost a huge number of seats in the Congress. Coalición Cívica, led by Elisa Carrió, they had extremely bad results. They lost four of the seats they control in the House. The Pro Party in the provinces that they run outside La Libertad Avanza, they performed very badly. Clearly, that idea that we have, and I've been saying that there was a before and after 2023, has been consolidated with this electoral cycle.

The political cycle that lasts for 20 years and that was basically dominated by the Kirchner and the other hand of the same coin, Macri, was over in 2023. This election cycle basically confirmed that. We no longer had Junto por el Cambio. All of the parties that were part from Junto por el Cambio suffered huge defeats, or very bad electoral results. The Radical Party performed or got less than 1% at the national stage. They lost a huge number of seats in the Congress. Coalición Cívica, led by Elisa Carrió, they had extremely bad results. They lost four of the seats they control in the House. The Pro Party in the provinces that they run outside La Libertad Avanza, they performed very badly. Clearly, that idea that we have, and I've been saying that there was a before and after 2023, has been consolidated with this electoral cycle.

Speaker #5: This election cycle basically confirmed that. We no longer had Juntos por el Cambio; all of the parties that were part of Juntos por el Cambio suffered huge defeats or very bad electoral results.

Speaker #5: The Radical Party performed poorly, or got less than 1% at the national stage; they lost a huge number of seats in Congress. The Coalición Cívica, led by Elisa Carrió, had extremely bad results.

Speaker #5: They lost four of the seats they control in the House. The pro-party in the provinces that they run, outside La Libertad Avanza, performed very badly.

Speaker #5: Clearly, that idea that we have, and I've been saying that there was a before and after 2023, has been consolidated with this electoral cycle.

Speaker #5: We are seeing the implosion of the political parties at the national level, or the traditional political parties. We are witnessing the implosion, the disappearance, and the loss of influence of the leaders that have dominated Argentina over the last 20 years.

Alejandro Caterberg: We are seeing the implosion of the political parties at the national level, or the traditional political parties. We are seeing the implosion, the disappearance, and the loss of influence of the leaders that dominate Argentina over the last 20 years. I'm talking about Mauricio Macri and Cristina Kirchner. We are seeing a huge fragmentation and atomization of politics in Argentina. As a consequence of all of that, we are seeing a greater role from the governors and the provinces. The governors and the provinces are becoming the main players besides, of course, La Libertad Avanza and Javier Milei. That is changing Argentina's economy and politics.

We are seeing the implosion of the political parties at the national level, or the traditional political parties. We are seeing the implosion, the disappearance, and the loss of influence of the leaders that dominate Argentina over the last 20 years. I'm talking about Mauricio Macri and Cristina Kirchner. We are seeing a huge fragmentation and atomization of politics in Argentina. As a consequence of all of that, we are seeing a greater role from the governors and the provinces. The governors and the provinces are becoming the main players besides, of course, La Libertad Avanza and Javier Milei. That is changing Argentina's economy and politics.

Speaker #5: I'm talking about Mauricio Macri and Cristina Kirchner. We are seeing a huge fragmentation and atomization of politics in Argentina. As a consequence of all of that, we are seeing a greater role from the governors and the provinces.

Speaker #5: Governors and the provinces are becoming the main players, besides of course La Libertad Avanza and Javier Milei. And that is changing Argentina's economy and politics.

Speaker #5: And we should, and I believe this trend will continue and we are moving forward to a different organization of politics with a much more fragmented distribution of power with the governors and the provinces becoming more out having higher degrees of autonomy, less constrained by the national political leaders.

Alejandro Caterberg: I believe this trend will continue, and we are moving forward to a different organization of politics with a much more fragmented distribution of power, with the governors and the provinces becoming more out, having a higher degree of autonomy, less constrained by the national political leaders. Of course, that has to correlate with some economic threats that we are having here in Argentina, with this or many of these provinces starting to receive investments in the extractive industries for the first time in their history. Finally, as a consequence of all of this, we are seeing a consolidation of Javier Milei and La Libertad Avanza.

I believe this trend will continue, and we are moving forward to a different organization of politics with a much more fragmented distribution of power, with the governors and the provinces becoming more out, having a higher degree of autonomy, less constrained by the national political leaders. Of course, that has to correlate with some economic threats that we are having here in Argentina, with this or many of these provinces starting to receive investments in the extractive industries for the first time in their history. Finally, as a consequence of all of this, we are seeing a consolidation of Javier Milei and La Libertad Avanza.

Speaker #5: And of course, that has a correlate with some economic trends that we are having here in Argentina. With this, or many of these provinces starting to receive investments in the extractive industries for the first time in their history.

Speaker #5: And finally, as a consequence of all of this, we are seeing a consolidation of Javier Milei and La Libertad Avanza. Especially the decisions that the president took after the victory—the changes within the government that the president made after the victory clearly send the signal that he is concentrating most of the power that he had somehow delegated to other advisors like Guillermo Franco and Santiago Caputo. The key post in the government is now being fulfilled by Karina Milei-Pipula and Javier Milei himself.

Alejandro Caterberg: Especially the decisions that the president took after the victory, the changes within the government that the president made after the victory clearly send the signal that he is concentrating most of the power that somehow he had delegated in other advisors like Guillermo Franco, Santiago Caputo, and the key post in the government is being fulfilled by Karina Milei people and Javier Milei himself. That is the broader picture of the things and the trends we have seen after the election. Number three, going to the Congress that we're going to see from 10 December, in a few days from now, and the agenda that is coming.

Especially the decisions that the president took after the victory, the changes within the government that the president made after the victory clearly send the signal that he is concentrating most of the power that somehow he had delegated in other advisors like Guillermo Franco, Santiago Caputo, and the key post in the government is being fulfilled by Karina Milei people and Javier Milei himself. That is the broader picture of the things and the trends we have seen after the election. Number three, going to the Congress that we're going to see from 10 December, in a few days from now, and the agenda that is coming.

Speaker #5: So that is the broader picture of the things and the trends we have seen after the election. Number three, going to the Congress that we're going to see from December 10 in a few days from now and the agenda that is coming. You have probably read this, but there was a huge change and some positive surprises, especially in the Senate, because all of the tight races, or most of the tight races, ended up being in favor of La Libertad Avanza.

Alejandro Caterberg: You have probably read this, but there was a huge change and some positive surprises, especially in the Senate, because all of the tide race, most of the tide race, ended up being in the favor of La Libertad Avanza. La Libertad Avanza ended up getting three extra senators that are better than what we thought. The peronism ended up losing three extra senators out of the expectation. The peronist went from 34 senators to 28. That is a key piece of information, guys, because the Senate has always been the most difficult part of the political system in Argentina to go through reforms. The peronist has always been traditionally dominated by the peronist because the peronist traditionally dominates the provinces and the small provinces.

You have probably read this, but there was a huge change and some positive surprises, especially in the Senate, because all of the tide race, most of the tide race, ended up being in the favor of La Libertad Avanza. La Libertad Avanza ended up getting three extra senators that are better than what we thought. The peronism ended up losing three extra senators out of the expectation. The peronist went from 34 senators to 28. That is a key piece of information, guys, because the Senate has always been the most difficult part of the political system in Argentina to go through reforms. The peronist has always been traditionally dominated by the peronist because the peronist traditionally dominates the provinces and the small provinces.

Speaker #5: So, La Libertad Avanza ended up getting three extra senators, which is better than what we thought, and Peronism ended up losing three extra senators, contrary to expectations.

Speaker #5: So the Peronists went from 34 senators to 28. That is a key piece of information, guys, because the Senate has always been the most difficult part of the political system in Argentina to go through reforms.

Speaker #5: Peronism has always been traditionally dominated by the Peronists because the Peronists traditionally dominate the provinces and the small provinces. Since the Peronists are losing the provinces, as I said before, they are fading away. That translates into the Senate, and the number of seats that the Peronists now control in the Senate is no longer the majority.

Alejandro Caterberg: Since the Peronist are losing the provinces, as I said before, are fading away, that translates into the Senate, and the number of seats that the Peronist now controls in the Senate is no longer the majority. At some point, they may even lose the first minority. It opened the doors for the Senate to approve reforms. La Libertad Avanza, until today, has six senators plus nine from the Pro, 15 in total. They go from six to 21. The Pro go from nine to five. They go from 15 to 26. They need to get 11 senators to get the majority. Basically, those 11 senators are very easy to reach. They need to make agreements with a number of governors that are willing to collaborate with the government and are willing to vote for many of the reforms.

Since the Peronist are losing the provinces, as I said before, are fading away, that translates into the Senate, and the number of seats that the Peronist now controls in the Senate is no longer the majority. At some point, they may even lose the first minority. It opened the doors for the Senate to approve reforms. La Libertad Avanza, until today, has six senators plus nine from the Pro, 15 in total. They go from six to 21. The Pro go from nine to five. They go from 15 to 26. They need to get 11 senators to get the majority. Basically, those 11 senators are very easy to reach. They need to make agreements with a number of governors that are willing to collaborate with the government and are willing to vote for many of the reforms.

Speaker #5: At some point, they may even lose the first minority. This opens the doors for the Senate to approve reforms. La Libertad Avanza, until today, has six senators, plus nine from the PRO, making a total of 15.

Speaker #5: They go from 6 to 21. The pro go from 9 to 5. So they go from 15 to 26. They need to get 11 senators to get the majority, and basically, those 11 senators are very easy to reach.

Speaker #5: They need to make agreements with a number of governors who are willing to collaborate with the government and are willing to vote for many of the reforms.

Speaker #5: They are there is a how you call the chair game in which now the government has more chairs than they are more governors than chairs.

Alejandro Caterberg: There is a, how you call it, the chair game in which now the government has more chairs than there are more governors than chairs. The governor will have the incentives to collaborate. I don't find any difficulty, or I don't expect any difficulty for the government to be able to gather a majority in the Senate during the summer in which they're going to be discussing the reforms. In the House, the picture is quite similar. La Libertad Avanza has from 44 to 91, plus 18 from the Pro. They are only 20 seats away from having the majority in the House. There are 46 seats in the hands of the governors who they could easily reach agreements to get to that number. The reform seasons will start in a few weeks from now.

There is a, how you call it, the chair game in which now the government has more chairs than there are more governors than chairs. The governor will have the incentives to collaborate. I don't find any difficulty, or I don't expect any difficulty for the government to be able to gather a majority in the Senate during the summer in which they're going to be discussing the reforms. In the House, the picture is quite similar. La Libertad Avanza has from 44 to 91, plus 18 from the Pro. They are only 20 seats away from having the majority in the House. There are 46 seats in the hands of the governors who they could easily reach agreements to get to that number. The reform seasons will start in a few weeks from now.

Speaker #5: So the governors will have the incentives to collaborate, and I don't find any difficulty or I don't expect any difficulty for the government to be able to gather a majority in the Senate during the summer in which they're going to be discussing the reforms.

Speaker #5: In the House, the picture is quite similar. La Libertad Avanza has from 44 to 91, plus 18 from the pro. So they are only 20 seats away from having the majority in the House.

Speaker #5: There are 46 seats in the hands of the governors, who could easily reach agreements to get to that number. So, the reform systems will start in a few weeks from now.

Speaker #5: The government will be able to approve, for the first time in the administration, their budget. So, Milei and La Libertad Avanza have run the country for the last two years without a budget.

Alejandro Caterberg: The government will be able to approve for the first time in the administration their budget. Milei and La Libertad Avanza ran the country the last two years without a budget. Next year, we will have a budget being approved by the Congress. A big number of reforms will be discussed, basically some labor reforms, some tax reforms, some other reforms regarding, for example, criminal policies, judicial things, or many other aspects. Many of the things that were left behind in the Bases law last year are going to be put back on the table. Other issues like the Glacier law will probably be discussed. There is a high probability that could be approved that is critical for the mining industry because basically they will send the decisions regarding Glacier policies to the provinces. Each province decided what to do with that.

The government will be able to approve for the first time in the administration their budget. Milei and La Libertad Avanza ran the country the last two years without a budget. Next year, we will have a budget being approved by the Congress. A big number of reforms will be discussed, basically some labor reforms, some tax reforms, some other reforms regarding, for example, criminal policies, judicial things, or many other aspects. Many of the things that were left behind in the Bases law last year are going to be put back on the table. Other issues like the Glacier law will probably be discussed. There is a high probability that could be approved that is critical for the mining industry because basically they will send the decisions regarding Glacier policies to the provinces. Each province decided what to do with that.

Speaker #5: Next year, we will have a budget being approved by Congress. A big number of reforms will be discussed, including some labor reforms, some tax reforms, and other reforms regarding, for example, criminal policies, judicial matters, and many other aspects.

Speaker #5: Many of the things that were left behind in the basic law last year are going to be put back on the table. Other issues, like the glacier law, will probably be discussed, and there is a high probability that it could be approved. This is critical for the mining industry because, basically, they will send the decisions regarding glacier policies to the provinces.

Speaker #5: So, each province decided what to do with that. And on top of that, we have other reforms coming—institutional reforms that will be very important.

Alejandro Caterberg: We have other reforms coming, institutional reforms that will be very important. The most important of all, the government will have a new chance to complete the Supreme Court and to nominate some new judges into the Supreme Court. I do expect that this or most of these reforms will be approved during the summer. I don't know if one of them or the other will be a fully game changer. At some point, I think they're relevant, and they change and increase productivity in the long term in Argentina. Also, what happens with economic policies and the normalization of the economy, interest rates, and all of the stuff are as relevant as the reforms coming from the Congress.

We have other reforms coming, institutional reforms that will be very important. The most important of all, the government will have a new chance to complete the Supreme Court and to nominate some new judges into the Supreme Court. I do expect that this or most of these reforms will be approved during the summer. I don't know if one of them or the other will be a fully game changer. At some point, I think they're relevant, and they change and increase productivity in the long term in Argentina. Also, what happens with economic policies and the normalization of the economy, interest rates, and all of the stuff are as relevant as the reforms coming from the Congress.

Speaker #5: The most important, of all, is that the government will have a new chance to complete the Supreme Court and to nominate some new judges to the Supreme Court.

Speaker #5: So, I do expect that this or most of these reforms will be approved during the summer. I don't know if one of them or the other will be a fully game changer.

Speaker #5: At some point, I think they are relevant and they change and increase productivity in the long term in Argentina. But also, what happens with economic policies and the normalization of the economy, interest rates, and all of that stuff are as relevant as the reforms coming from the Congress.

Speaker #5: Finally, my last comment is that I have received many questions from clients and from investors like you saying, "Well, listen, Ale, I have thought this picture before."

Alejandro Caterberg: Finally, my last comment is that I have received many questions from clients and from investors like you guys saying, Well, listen, Ale, I have seen this picture before. I have seen this movie before. In 2017, Macri won the midterm election with almost the same amount of support and votes that Milei got, and almost exactly in the same provinces that Milei won last month. We all know what happened with Macri a few months after he won the midterm election. I have to say that I find some differences this time with the previous time. Most of the differences, I think, play in favor of Javier Milei or that the chances that this time works out better. On the economic side, clearly by this time, Milei has done the dirty work, and the fiscal adjustment is already done.

Finally, my last comment is that I have received many questions from clients and from investors like you guys saying, Well, listen, Ale, I have seen this picture before. I have seen this movie before. In 2017, Macri won the midterm election with almost the same amount of support and votes that Milei got, and almost exactly in the same provinces that Milei won last month. We all know what happened with Macri a few months after he won the midterm election. I have to say that I find some differences this time with the previous time. Most of the differences, I think, play in favor of Javier Milei or that the chances that this time works out better. On the economic side, clearly by this time, Milei has done the dirty work, and the fiscal adjustment is already done.

Speaker #5: I have thought about this movie before. In 2017, Macri won the midterm election with almost the same amount of support and votes that Milei got, and almost exactly in the same provinces.

Speaker #5: That Milei won last month. So we all know what happened with Macri a few months after he won the midterm election. I find some differences this time with the previous time, and most of the differences I think play in favor of Javier Milei, or that the chances that these times work out better.

Speaker #5: On the economic side, clearly by this time, Milei has done the dirty work and the fiscal adjustment is already done. Mauricio Macri got to the midterm elections without having done the fiscal adjustment, and he was forced to do it after the 2018 crisis.

Alejandro Caterberg: Mauricio Macri got to the midterm elections without having done the fiscal adjustment, and he was forced to do it after the 2019 crisis. The adjustment in relative prices clearly has been probably better under or has moved faster under Milei than what Macri was able to do by 2017. We have a good emerging markets environment right now. Macri, two months after winning the midterm election, faced one of the toughest droughts in the agriculture sector, while Milei is going to face one of the greatest harvests in two or three months from now. Macri, by this time, has used all of the markets or has, how you say, consumed all of the access to the market. Milei has not been able to go back to the market. They will go back to the market probably starting next year.

Mauricio Macri got to the midterm elections without having done the fiscal adjustment, and he was forced to do it after the 2019 crisis. The adjustment in relative prices clearly has been probably better under or has moved faster under Milei than what Macri was able to do by 2017. We have a good emerging markets environment right now. Macri, two months after winning the midterm election, faced one of the toughest droughts in the agriculture sector, while Milei is going to face one of the greatest harvests in two or three months from now. Macri, by this time, has used all of the markets or has, how you say, consumed all of the access to the market. Milei has not been able to go back to the market. They will go back to the market probably starting next year.

Speaker #5: The adjustment in relative prices clearly has been probably better under or has moved faster under Milei than what Macri was able to do by 2017.

Speaker #5: We have a good emerging markets environment right now, two months after winning the midterm. Macri, in the election, faced one of the toughest draws in the agriculture sector, while Milei is going to face one of the greatest harvests in two or three months from now.

Speaker #5: Macri, by this time, has used all of the markets or has consumed all of the access to the market. Milei has not been able to go back to the markets.

Speaker #5: They will go back to the markets probably starting next year. By this time, Macri had an energy deficit of more than $5 billion.

Alejandro Caterberg: By this time, Macri had an energy deficit of more than $5 billion. Argentina now, because of how Vaca Muerta is producing, has a surplus of energy account by more than $7 billion. That is on the economic side. On the political side, clearly, Milei is facing a weaker Peronism and a much weaker Cristina or Kirchnerism than Macri was facing. Milei has a very favorable Senate, much more favorable than what Macri had, even though the House was more easy for Macri than for Milei. On the whole, I think the chances to move forward with the reforms should be easier now for Milei than what it was for Macri after the 2017 election. We have governors who have a more important role and have the incentive to collaborate with the government because basically they do not have another place to go right now.

Alejandro Caterberg: By this time, Macri had an energy deficit of more than $5 billion. Argentina now, because of how Vaca Muerta is producing, has a surplus of energy account by more than $7 billion. That is on the economic side. On the political side, clearly, Milei is facing a weaker Peronism and a much weaker Cristina or Kirchnerism than Macri was facing. Milei has a very favorable Senate, much more favorable than what Macri had, even though the House was more easy for Macri than for Milei. On the whole, I think the chances to move forward with the reforms should be easier now for Milei than what it was for Macri after the 2017 election. We have governors who have a more important role and have the incentive to collaborate with the government because basically they do not have another place to go right now.

Speaker #5: Argentina now, because of how Marta is producing, has a surplus of the energy account by more than $7 billion. That is on the economic side.

Speaker #5: On the political side, clearly, Milei is facing a weaker Peronism and a much weaker Cristina Oxigenarism than Macri was facing. Milei has a very favorable Senate, much more favorable than what Macri had, even though the House was easier for Macri than for Milei.

Speaker #5: But, on the whole, I think the chances to move forward with the reforms should be easier now for Milei than what it was for Macri after the 2017 election.

Speaker #5: We have governors who have a more important role and have been sent to collaborate with the government because, basically, they don't have another place to go right now.

Speaker #5: We have an administration and probably a president that is much more committed to pushing the reforms and going deeper with surplus than what Macri was.

Alejandro Caterberg: We have an administration and probably a president that is much more committed to pushing the reforms and going deeper with surplus than what Macri was. Macri and Milei still had very similar public opinion support by this time. We finished our November survey, and the trust and confidence index that I do for Universidad de Tela increased 16% this month. Milei approval rating went up 6 points this month. Basically, we are going back to the numbers that we have seen around June, July this year before the whole deterioration process started. We have not reached the highest point that Milei was able to achieve by the beginning of 2025. Clearly, after the election, Milei recovered almost all of the deterioration that he suffered during the last three or four months of huge uncertainty.

We have an administration and probably a president that is much more committed to pushing the reforms and going deeper with surplus than what Macri was. Macri and Milei still had very similar public opinion support by this time. We finished our November survey, and the trust and confidence index that I do for Universidad de Tela increased 16% this month. Milei approval rating went up 6 points this month. Basically, we are going back to the numbers that we have seen around June, July this year before the whole deterioration process started. We have not reached the highest point that Milei was able to achieve by the beginning of 2025. Clearly, after the election, Milei recovered almost all of the deterioration that he suffered during the last three or four months of huge uncertainty.

Speaker #5: Macri and Milei still had very similar public opinion support by this time. We finished our November survey, and the Trust and Confidence Index that I do for Universidad de Tela increased 16% this month.

Speaker #5: Milei's approval rating went up 6 points this month. So basically, we are going back to the numbers that we have seen around June and July this year, before the whole deterioration process started.

Speaker #5: We have not reached the highest point that Milei was able to achieve by the beginning of 2025, but clearly, after the election, Milei recovered almost all of the deterioration that he suffered during the last three or four months of huge uncertainty.

Speaker #5: And on top of all of that, besides the economy and the political considerations, we have something that could be a game changer. Or it is a game changer.

Alejandro Caterberg: On top of all of that, besides the economy and the political considerations, we have something that could be a game changer, or it is a game changer, and that is the full support in economical terms and in political terms of the US government and President Trump. All of that context, in my opinion, creates the conditions to make the story or the probabilities of Milei to move forward and have a third year of administration clearly better than what Mauricio Macri had after three years. For me, Argentina and the government has a huge opportunity in front of us. I hope that the government and the president have learned from the mistakes he made in the last few months and some of the mistakes he made in the first year of his administration.

On top of all of that, besides the economy and the political considerations, we have something that could be a game changer, or it is a game changer, and that is the full support in economical terms and in political terms of the US government and President Trump. All of that context, in my opinion, creates the conditions to make the story or the probabilities of Milei to move forward and have a third year of administration clearly better than what Mauricio Macri had after three years. For me, Argentina and the government has a huge opportunity in front of us. I hope that the government and the president have learned from the mistakes he made in the last few months and some of the mistakes he made in the first year of his administration.

Speaker #5: And that is the full support, in economic terms and in political terms, of the U.S. government and President Trump. So all of that context, in my opinion, creates the conditions to make the story or the probabilities of Milei to move forward and have a third year of administration clearly better than what Mauricio Macri had as a third year.

Speaker #5: So for me, Argentina and the government have a huge opportunity in front of us. I hope that the government and the president have learned from the mistakes he made in the last few months and some of the mistakes he made in the first year of his administration.

Speaker #5: He has pushed for good judges to go to the Supreme Court. I hope that this time he's able to deliver on the promises and the agreements that he made with the governors.

Alejandro Caterberg: I hope that this time he pushed for good judges to go to the Supreme Court. I hope that this time he's able to, or he delivered on the promises and the agreement that he made with the governors. I hope that this time he's able to change part of his narrative style, the way he communicates, and his constant aggression against some of the independent media. To put it in simple ways, I think it's up to the government and up to Milei not to lose this opportunity. With that saying, Ana, thank you very much. Thank you, Alejandro. At this time, we are conducting the Q&A session. Remember that to ask a question, you can press your raise your hand button or write it on the Q&A panel. The first question comes from Ernesto Gabilondo with Bank of America. Hello, good morning, Ernesto.

I hope that this time he pushed for good judges to go to the Supreme Court. I hope that this time he's able to, or he delivered on the promises and the agreement that he made with the governors. I hope that this time he's able to change part of his narrative style, the way he communicates, and his constant aggression against some of the independent media. To put it in simple ways, I think it's up to the government and up to Milei not to lose this opportunity. With that saying, Ana, thank you very much.

Speaker #5: I hope that this time he's able to change part of his narrative style and the way he communicates, as well as his constant aggression against some of the independent media.

Speaker #5: But to put it in a simple way, I think it's up to the government and up to Milei not to lose this opportunity. So with that said, Ana, thank you very much.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Alejandro. At this time, we are conducting the Q&A session. Remember that to ask a question, you can press your raise your hand button or write it on the Q&A panel.

Ana Bartesaghi: Thank you, Alejandro. At this time, we are conducting the Q&A session. Remember that to ask a question, you can press your raise your hand button or write it on the Q&A panel. The first question comes from Ernesto Gabilondo with Bank of America. Hello, good morning, Ernesto.

Speaker #2: The first question comes from Ernesto Gabilondo with Bank of America. Hello, good morning, Ernesto. Please go ahead.

Alejandro Caterberg: Please go ahead. Thank you, Ana. Hi, good morning, Patricio, Paco, Mariana, and good morning, Alejandro. Thanks for the opportunity to ask questions. My first question will be on your long-road expectations. You have guided between 35% and 40% this year. I know that you do not have a guidance for next year yet, but can you give us some color on what are your growth expectations per segment? Maybe Alejandro can also add into this question. Can you share the names and amounts of private investments announcements so far so we can detect the potential lending activity in the different regions and sectors? My second question is on your ROE expectations. You have mentioned to expect an ROE between minus 5% to 0% this year. Again, you will provide guidance next year.

Please go ahead.

Ernesto Gabilondo: Thank you, Ana. Hi, good morning, Patricio, Paco, Mariana, and good morning, Alejandro. Thanks for the opportunity to ask questions. My first question will be on your long-road expectations. You have guided between 35% and 40% this year. I know that you do not have a guidance for next year yet, but can you give us some color on what are your growth expectations per segment? Maybe Alejandro can also add into this question. Can you share the names and amounts of private investments announcements so far so we can detect the potential lending activity in the different regions and sectors? My second question is on your ROE expectations. You have mentioned to expect an ROE between minus 5% to 0% this year. Again, you will provide guidance next year.

Speaker #3: Thank you, Ana. And hi, good morning, Patricio, Paco, Mariano, and good morning, Alejandro. And thanks for the opportunity to ask questions. My first question will be on your long-run expectations you have guided between 35% and 40% this year.

Speaker #3: I know that you don't have guidance for next year yet, but can you give us some color on what your growth expectations are per segment? And maybe Alejandro can also add to this question?

Speaker #3: Can you share the names and amounts of private investment announcements so far? So we can detect the potential lending activity in the different regions and sectors.

Speaker #3: And then my second question is on your ROE expectations. You have mentioned to expect an ROE between -5% to 0% this year. And again, you will provide guidance next year.

Speaker #3: But any color on how we should think about the ROE next year? Just the general trends, high single digits or low double digits, I think will be very helpful.

Alejandro Caterberg: Any color on how should we think about the ROE next year? Just the general trends, high single digit or low double digit, I think will be very helpful. Thank you. Good morning, Ernesto. Thank you for your questions. I'll take it first, and then be complemented probably by Mariano. In terms of loans, loan growth this year was constrained by tight monetary conditions. Since the midterm elections, we see the first signs of a turn. Real rates are falling, reserve requirements easing, and credit demand improving. In Q4 2025 and early 2026, we see growth coming mainly from corporates and SMEs, particularly in the oil and gas chain, with retail coming maybe probably later, picking up in the second quarter of 2026 as rates and employment conditions improve.

Any color on how should we think about the ROE next year? Just the general trends, high single digit or low double digit, I think will be very helpful. Thank you.

Speaker #3: Thank

Speaker #3: you. Good

Speaker #4: Good morning, Ernesto. Thank you for your questions. I'll take it first, and then we will complement probably by Mariano. In terms of loans, loan growth this year was constrained by tight monetary conditions, but since the midterm elections, we see the first signs of a turn: real rates are falling, reserve requirements are easing, and credit demand is improving.

Patricio Supervielle: Good morning, Ernesto. Thank you for your questions. I'll take it first, and then be complemented probably by Mariano. In terms of loans, loan growth this year was constrained by tight monetary conditions. Since the midterm elections, we see the first signs of a turn. Real rates are falling, reserve requirements easing, and credit demand improving. In Q4 2025 and early 2026, we see growth coming mainly from corporates and SMEs, particularly in the oil and gas chain, with retail coming maybe probably later, picking up in the second quarter of 2026 as rates and employment conditions improve.

Speaker #4: In Q4 2025 and early 2026, we see growth coming mainly from corporates and SMEs, particularly in the oil and gas chain, with retail coming maybe probably later, picking up in the second quarter of 2026.

Speaker #4: As rates and employment conditions improve, in terms of if, let's say, all what we heard from Alejandro in terms of macro reforms and the deflation continues, we see real loan growth in 2026 reaching in the area of 30 to 40 percent.

Alejandro Caterberg: In terms of, if let's say, all what we heard from Alejandro in terms of macro reforms and the deflation continues, we see real loan growth in 2026 reaching in the area of 30% to 40%. I think, in terms of loan growth, to fund this growth, by the way, let me add that our strategy of remunerated accounts for corporates and payroll plans has been also now extended to the entire yield ecosystem. This will strengthen our funding base. I think it anticipates what fintechs will do when they start to play like Mercado Pago. I think it's the right move. In short, corporate and SME lending will lead to recovery, and retail will resume as of Q2 2026. We think that 2026 will be a strong year. Do you want to complement something on loans? No? I think that's okay.

In terms of, if let's say, all what we heard from Alejandro in terms of macro reforms and the deflation continues, we see real loan growth in 2026 reaching in the area of 30% to 40%. I think, in terms of loan growth, to fund this growth, by the way, let me add that our strategy of remunerated accounts for corporates and payroll plans has been also now extended to the entire yield ecosystem. This will strengthen our funding base. I think it anticipates what fintechs will do when they start to play like Mercado Pago. I think it's the right move. In short, corporate and SME lending will lead to recovery, and retail will resume as of Q2 2026. We think that 2026 will be a strong year. Do you want to complement something on loans?

Speaker #4: And that's, I think, in terms of loan growth to fund this growth. By the way, let me add that our strategy of remunerated accounts for corporates and payroll clients has now been extended to the entire ecosystem.

Speaker #4: That will strengthen our funding base, and I think it anticipates what fintechs will do when they start to play like Mercado Pago.

Speaker #4: So I think it's the right move. In short, corporate and SME lending will lead to recovery, and retail will resume as of Q2 '26.

Speaker #4: And we think that 2026 will be a strong year. Do you want to complement something on loans? No, I think that's great. Okay.

Alejandro Caterberg: No? I think that's okay.

Speaker #4: And then, in terms of ROE, for 2026, we have a long-term view that is constructive, particularly so after the outcome of the midterm elections.

Alejandro Caterberg: In terms of ROE for 2026, we have a long-term view which is constructive, and particularly so after the outcome of the midterm elections. There are several drivers that support a positive trajectory for us in terms of ROE starting in 2026 and extending beyond. The first one is the greater releveraging of banks. This is, of course, connected to the reforms that are implemented by the government to expect improving consumer confidence, disposable income, and also an increase in money demand by other Argentines. I think that we can expect also that with money demand, there will be lower liquidity requirements as of 2026, creating more room to leverage and to expand. Also, we will be looking to international markets if conditions are there to tap debt. We are doubling down on cost controls to lift operating leverage.

Patricio Supervielle: In terms of ROE for 2026, we have a long-term view which is constructive, and particularly so after the outcome of the midterm elections. There are several drivers that support a positive trajectory for us in terms of ROE starting in 2026 and extending beyond. The first one is the greater releveraging of banks. This is, of course, connected to the reforms that are implemented by the government to expect improving consumer confidence, disposable income, and also an increase in money demand by other Argentines. I think that we can expect also that with money demand, there will be lower liquidity requirements as of 2026, creating more room to leverage and to expand. Also, we will be looking to international markets if conditions are there to tap debt. We are doubling down on cost controls to lift operating leverage.

Speaker #4: So, there are several drivers that support a positive trajectory for us in terms of ROE starting in 2026 and extending beyond. The first one is the gradual re-leveraging of banks.

Speaker #4: And this is, of course, connected to the reforms that are implemented by the government to improve consumer confidence, increase disposable income, and also raise the demand for money among Argentines.

Speaker #4: And I think that we can expect also that with money demand, there will be lower liquidity requirements as of 2026, creating more room to leverage and to expand.

Speaker #4: Also, we planned to look into international markets if conditions are favorable to tap debt. We are doubling down on cost controls to lift operating leverage.

Speaker #4: And we are also, as I said, mentioned before, advancing on these strategic initiatives such as the remunerated account, which is now extended to the entire ecosystem.

Alejandro Caterberg: We are also, as I mentioned before, advancing on key strategic initiatives such as the remunerated account, now extended to the entire yield ecosystems. Basically, all of this, with focus on proceed growth, better asset liability management, and prudent underwriting, I think will give us the way to improve ROE. Importantly, we are investing for the long term. We are conscious that certain initiatives have longer paybacks, but they are designed to build durable earnings power for our franchise. While the path to 15% and 20% ROE may be extended, we are building all the necessary blocks to put it in place. We believe that as leverage normalizes and reform takes traction, Supervielle can converge towards ROE levels in line with peers in the region.

We are also, as I mentioned before, advancing on key strategic initiatives such as the remunerated account, now extended to the entire yield ecosystems. Basically, all of this, with focus on proceed growth, better asset liability management, and prudent underwriting, I think will give us the way to improve ROE. Importantly, we are investing for the long term. We are conscious that certain initiatives have longer paybacks, but they are designed to build durable earnings power for our franchise. While the path to 15% and 20% ROE may be extended, we are building all the necessary blocks to put it in place. We believe that as leverage normalizes and reform takes traction, Supervielle can converge towards ROE levels in line with peers in the region.

Speaker #4: So basically, all of this, with a, let's say, focus on pro-seed growth, better asset-liability management, and prudent underwriting, I think will give us the way to improve ROE.

Speaker #4: Importantly, we are investing for the long term, and we are conscious that certain initiatives have longer paybacks. But they are designed to build durability in our franchise.

Speaker #4: So, earnings power for while the path to 15% and 20% ROE may be expanded, we are building all the necessary blocks, basically, to put it in place. We believe that as leverage normalizes and reform takes traction, Supervielle can converge towards ROE levels in line with peers in the region.

Speaker #3: I think I might also ask about some big initiatives that Argentina has for the.

Alejandro Caterberg: I think I might also ask about some big initiatives that Argentina has for the next year. Yes. Or the private investments that have been announced so far in the different regions and sectors, I think it will be very helpful. Ernesto, I do not have the exact details of especially the mining big projects that have been going on. Clearly, when you look at the geography and the political geography of Argentina, what we are seeing is a rapid change in the economic dynamics that is created. I mean, provinces that have basically traditionally lived from public funds that were receiving from federal co-participation now are starting to receive direct investment and direct projects that are becoming a reality.

Alejandro Caterberg: I think I might also ask about some big initiatives that Argentina has for the next year. Yes.

Speaker #3: next year. I I know.

Speaker #5: Yes.

Ernesto Gabilondo: Or the private investments that have been announced so far in the different regions and sectors, I think it will be very helpful.

Speaker #1: Or the investments that the private investments that have been announced so far in the different regions and sectors, I think it will be very helpful.

Alejandro Caterberg: Ernesto, I do not have the exact details of especially the mining big projects that have been going on. Clearly, when you look at the geography and the political geography of Argentina, what we are seeing is a rapid change in the economic dynamics that is created. I mean, provinces that have basically traditionally lived from public funds that were receiving from federal co-participation now are starting to receive direct investment and direct projects that are becoming a reality.

Speaker #3: Ernesto, I don't have the exact details of especially the mining big projects that have been going on. But clearly, when you look at the geography and the political geography of Argentina, what we are seeing is a rapid change in the economic dynamics that are created.

Speaker #3: I mean, provinces that have basically traditionally lived off public funds that were received from federal co-participation now have started to receive direct investment and direct projects that are becoming a reality.

Alejandro Caterberg: For example, provinces in the whole north, you go to Jujuy, you go to Salta, Rioja, San Juan, Catamarca, with all big mining projects from silver to gold to lithium. Mendoza, who has been a province that traditionally has rejected mining because they are more concerned about the impact of mining in tourism, and in the wine industry, whatever, finally, last year, Governor Cornejo has jumped into mining and basically are starting copper projects. As you all know, we have the same Andes as Chile, and nobody has found the reason why the Chilean side of the Andes could have huge reserves of copper and not the Argentinian side. Mendoza has started that. Neuquén and the south provinces of Patagonia with, of course, Vaca Muerta and the oil and gas industry.

For example, provinces in the whole north, you go to Jujuy, you go to Salta, Rioja, San Juan, Catamarca, with all big mining projects from silver to gold to lithium. Mendoza, who has been a province that traditionally has rejected mining because they are more concerned about the impact of mining in tourism, and in the wine industry, whatever, finally, last year, Governor Cornejo has jumped into mining and basically are starting copper projects. As you all know, we have the same Andes as Chile, and nobody has found the reason why the Chilean side of the Andes could have huge reserves of copper and not the Argentinian side. Mendoza has started that. Neuquén and the south provinces of Patagonia with, of course, Vaca Muerta and the oil and gas industry.

Speaker #3: The whole North: you go to Juju, you go to Salta, Rioja. So, for example, provinces in San Juan, Catamarca, with all big mining projects from silver to gold to lithium.

Speaker #3: Who has been a province that traditionally has rejected mining? Mendoza, because they are more concerned about the impact of mining on tourism and the wine industry. However, finally last year, Governor Cornejo jumped into mining and basically started copper projects.

Speaker #3: As you all know, we have the same Andes as Chile, and I don't know—and nobody has found the reason—why the Chilean side of the Los Andes could have huge reserves of copper and not the Argentinian side.

Speaker #3: So, Mendoza has started that. Neuquén and the southern provinces of Patagonia, with, of course, Vaca Muerta and the oil and gas industry. So, in all of that, and on top of that, you have the traditional La Pampa region now with Córdoba, Mendoza, and all of the agricultural production that so far is about to have a good impact next year.

Alejandro Caterberg: In all of that, and on top of that, you have the traditional all of the La Pampa region with Córdoba, Mendoza, and all of the agricultural production that so far is about to have a good impact next year. In general terms, the extractive industries are booming and accelerating. Many regional projects have been approved. I think that will have an impact. The way I like to analyze Argentina, especially on the political and social side, is having an impact on the distribution of political power. I think that trend will continue even though we do not have Milei or we have someone else coming back, etc., etc., etc.

In all of that, and on top of that, you have the traditional all of the La Pampa region with Córdoba, Mendoza, and all of the agricultural production that so far is about to have a good impact next year. In general terms, the extractive industries are booming and accelerating. Many regional projects have been approved. I think that will have an impact. The way I like to analyze Argentina, especially on the political and social side, is having an impact on the distribution of political power. I think that trend will continue even though we do not have Milei or we have someone else coming back, etc., etc., etc.

Speaker #3: So, in general terms, the extractive industries are booming and are accelerating. Many rigid projects have been approved, and I think that will have an impact. The way I like to analyze Argentina, especially on the political and social side, is having an impact on the distribution of political power. I think that trend will continue, even though we don't have Milei or we have someone else coming back, etc., etc., etc.

Alejandro Caterberg: On the long-term view, we are seeing a shift in Argentina that is starting to distribute the power that it had, economic and political power that has been so concentrated in Buenos Aires and in La Pampa, more to the provinces. Excellent. I'm sorry, Ernesto. Sorry. Let me add to Alejandro with all these investments that are being announced by all the debt emissions by the oil and gas industry, they will have, as soon as they start being invested, all the value chains of these industries will start to move. This will ignite growth and loan demand precisely in the value chains that we are focusing on because, by the way, we opened recently a branch in Añelo and another branch where the ecosystem of mining in San Juan is.

On the long-term view, we are seeing a shift in Argentina that is starting to distribute the power that it had, economic and political power that has been so concentrated in Buenos Aires and in La Pampa, more to the provinces.

Speaker #3: long-term view, we are So on the seeing a shift in Argentina that is starting to distribute the power that it has economic and political power that has been so concentrated in Buenos Aires and in La Pampa more to the

Speaker #3: provinces.

Speaker #1: Excellent. Thank

Ernesto Gabilondo: Excellent.

Mariano Biglia: I'm sorry, Ernesto.

Speaker #1: you.

Speaker #5: I'm sorry,

Speaker #5: Ernesto. Sorry.

Patricio Supervielle: Sorry. Let me add to Alejandro with all these investments that are being announced by all the debt emissions by the oil and gas industry, they will have, as soon as they start being invested, all the value chains of these industries will start to move. This will ignite growth and loan demand precisely in the value chains that we are focusing on because, by the way, we opened recently a branch in Añelo and another branch where the ecosystem of mining in San Juan is.

Speaker #3: Let me add to Alejandro what with all these investments that are being announced by the all the debt emissions by the oil and gas industry, they will have as soon as they start being invested, all the value chains of these industries will start to move so this will ignite growth and loan demand precisely in the value chains that we are focusing because we by the way, we just we opened recently a branch in Añelo, and another branch in the where the ecosystem of mining in San Juan is.

Speaker #3: So, even though we were present before, now we have a more direct presence, and because we want to focus on that. But let me add something on the political side.

Alejandro Caterberg: Even though we were present before, now we have a more direct presence because we want to focus on that. Let me add something on the political side. Probably one of the things that will start showing up as a concern, and I tend to believe that will start to happen next year, as long as inflation demands or people worry about inflation end up vanishing away, it has gone from by far being the number one problem to now being shared with another problem. What I tend to believe in the long term in Argentina will happen, and as in many other countries, it's a labor problem. Probably what we will start seeing is demands from some sector of the society that will suffer from losing jobs in the unproductive industries in the suburbs of Buenos Aires and jobs being created on the new provinces.

Even though we were present before, now we have a more direct presence because we want to focus on that.

Alejandro Caterberg: Let me add something on the political side. Probably one of the things that will start showing up as a concern, and I tend to believe that will start to happen next year, as long as inflation demands or people worry about inflation end up vanishing away, it has gone from by far being the number one problem to now being shared with another problem. What I tend to believe in the long term in Argentina will happen, and as in many other countries, it's a labor problem. Probably what we will start seeing is demands from some sector of the society that will suffer from losing jobs in the unproductive industries in the suburbs of Buenos Aires and jobs being created on the new provinces.

Speaker #3: Probably one of the things that will start showing up as concerning is that I tend to believe it will start to happen next year, as long as inflation concerns or worries about inflation end up vanishing away. It has gone from being by far the number one problem to now being shared with another problem.

Speaker #3: What I tend to believe, in the long term, in Argentina will happen, and as in many other countries, is a labor problem. So, probably what we will start seeing is demands from some sectors of society that will suffer from losing jobs in the unproductive industries in the suburbs of Buenos Aires City and jobs being created in the new provinces.

Speaker #3: And I don't know how labor demanded are these industries. So if you want to if you ask me what consequence or what negative implications this changes could have for this government on the next government and also if you add artificial intelligence and the impact that that would have on labor as a general and globally, probably what we will start seeing next year or in the next or in the future years is that the problems and the tensions and the social tensions changes from related to being to inflation toward relating to employment generation.

Alejandro Caterberg: I don't know how labor demanded are these new industries. If you ask me what consequence or what negative implications these changes could have for this government or the next government, and also if you add artificial intelligence and the impact that that will have on labor as a general and globally, probably what we will start seeing next year or in the future years is that the problems and the tensions and the social tensions change from related to inflation toward relating to employment generation. Thank you very much, Alejandro. Just to follow up with Patricio on the ROE expectation. You were mentioning that Supervielle's position for the long term, but the ROE of 15% to 20% may be extended.

I don't know how labor demanded are these new industries. If you ask me what consequence or what negative implications these changes could have for this government or the next government, and also if you add artificial intelligence and the impact that that will have on labor as a general and globally, probably what we will start seeing next year or in the future years is that the problems and the tensions and the social tensions change from related to inflation toward relating to employment generation.

Ernesto Gabilondo: Thank you very much, Alejandro. Just to follow up with Patricio on the ROE expectation. You were mentioning that Supervielle's position for the long term, but the ROE of 15% to 20% may be extended.

Speaker #1: Thank you very much, Alejandro. And just to follow up with Patricio on the ROE expectation, you mentioned that Supervielle's position for the long term, but the ROE of 15% to 20% may be extended.

Speaker #1: So considering what you posted in or what you're guiding for this year, would it be reasonable to see around a single-digit ROE next year and then moving to your medium-term target by 2027?

Alejandro Caterberg: Considering what you posted or what you're guiding for this year, would it be reasonable to see around a single digit ROE next year and then moving to your medium-term target by 2027, 2028? Jano, do you want to answer? Hi, Ernesto. Yes, let me complement on this. I think for next year, although we haven't given guidance because we still want to see how the monetary policy, the regulation evolves after the elections, it's reasonable to think that we will reach our medium-term target ROE for the end of next year. For the full year, we will be on high single digits or low double digits depending on the pace, on how fast the things that we need to happen evolve. That is lower interest rates. We are already seeing that in November, which is an inflection point for interest rates. Also, minimum cash requirements.

Considering what you posted or what you're guiding for this year, would it be reasonable to see around a single digit ROE next year and then moving to your medium-term target by 2027, 2028?

Speaker #1: 2028? Jano, do you want to...

Patricio Supervielle: Jano, do you want to answer?

Alejandro Caterberg: Hi, Ernesto. Yes, let me complement on this. I think for next year, although we haven't given guidance because we still want to see how the monetary policy, the regulation evolves after the elections, it's reasonable to think that we will reach our medium-term target ROE for the end of next year. For the full year, we will be on high single digits or low double digits depending on the pace, on how fast the things that we need to happen evolve. That is lower interest rates. We are already seeing that in November, which is an inflection point for interest rates. Also, minimum cash requirements.

Speaker #2: Ernesto: Yes, let me complement this. I think for next year, although we haven't given guidance because we still want to see how the monetary policy and the regulation evolve after the elections, it's reasonable to think that we will reach our medium-term target ROE by the end of next year.

Speaker #2: So for the full year, we will be in high single digits or low double digits, depending on the pace at which the things that we need to happen evolve.

Speaker #2: That is lower interest rates. We are already seeing that in November, which is an inflection point for interest rates. Also, minimum cash requirements. We are already seeing some flexibilizations.

Alejandro Caterberg: We are already seeing some flexibilization with the last regulations decreasing non-remunerative cash requirements. There's still some way to go looking forward. Cash requirements are still on 50% level for site deposits, which is still extremely high. We need that to continue easing. Also, improvement in NPLs will happen next year that will allow us not only to reduce cost of risk, but to resume real growth on the regional side. That is something that we think can happen when economic activity improves with a more loose monetary policy, with economic conditions improving, not only on an average for the country, but also across industry. We know there are some industries that are still lagging in the recovery of activity, and some of those industries have a lot of employment.

We are already seeing some flexibilization with the last regulations decreasing non-remunerative cash requirements. There's still some way to go looking forward. Cash requirements are still on 50% level for site deposits, which is still extremely high. We need that to continue easing. Also, improvement in NPLs will happen next year that will allow us not only to reduce cost of risk, but to resume real growth on the regional side. That is something that we think can happen when economic activity improves with a more loose monetary policy, with economic conditions improving, not only on an average for the country, but also across industry. We know there are some industries that are still lagging in the recovery of activity, and some of those industries have a lot of employment.

Speaker #2: With the last regulations decreasing non-remunerated cash requirements, there's still some way to go looking forward. Cash requirements are still at a 50% level for side deposits, which is still extremely high.

Speaker #2: So, we need that to continue easing. And then also improvement in MPLs, which will happen next year. That will allow us not only to reduce the cost of risk but to resume real growth on the retail side.

Speaker #2: And that is something that we think can happen when economic activity improves with the more loose monetary policy. With economic conditions improving, not only on average for the country but also across industries, we know there are some industries that are still lagging in the recovery of activity, and some of those industries have a lot of employment.

Speaker #2: So those dynamics should allow us to lower the cost of risk, increase in retail, and again, with the lowering of cash requirements, increase the weight of the loan portfolio in our balance sheet.

Alejandro Caterberg: Those dynamics should allow us to lower cost of risk, increase in retail, and again, with the lower of cash requirements, increase the weight of the loan portfolio in our balance sheet. That is what will lead us to our target for medium-term ROE. Depending on how fast that happens, we will be on lower single double digits, or if it takes more time, on higher single digits. Well, super helpful, Mariano, and happy Thanksgiving and holidays to everyone. Thank you, Ernesto. Our next question comes from Brian Flores with CTIM. Hello, good morning, Brian. Hi, Ana and team. Thank you for the opportunity. I have two questions here. I think the first one is a bit on growth. You mentioned in the presentation that you want to achieve a more balanced loan mix between corporate and retail.

Those dynamics should allow us to lower cost of risk, increase in retail, and again, with the lower of cash requirements, increase the weight of the loan portfolio in our balance sheet. That is what will lead us to our target for medium-term ROE. Depending on how fast that happens, we will be on lower single double digits, or if it takes more time, on higher single digits.

Speaker #2: That is what will lead us to our target for medium-term ROE. Depending on how fast that happens, we will be in lower single digits or, if it takes more time, in higher single digits.

Speaker #2: digits. Oh, super

Ernesto Gabilondo: Well, super helpful, Mariano, and happy Thanksgiving and holidays to everyone.

Speaker #1: Helpful. Mariano, and happy Thanksgiving and holidays to everyone.

Patricio Supervielle: Thank you, Ernesto.

Speaker #2: Thank you, Ernesto.

Ana Bartesaghi: Our next question comes from Brian Flores with CTIM. Hello, good morning, Brian.

Speaker #4: Our next question comes from Brian Flores with C-Team. Hello, good morning, Brian.

Brian Flores: Hi, Ana and team. Thank you for the opportunity. I have two questions here. I think the first one is a bit on growth. You mentioned in the presentation that you want to achieve a more balanced loan mix between corporate and retail.

Speaker #5: Hi, Ana and team. Thank you for the opportunity. I have two questions here. I think the first one is a bit on growth. You mentioned in the presentation that you want to achieve a more balanced loan mix between corporate and retail.

Speaker #5: You're probably prioritizing corporate, as you were mentioning the strong demand and the unlocking of a lot of pent-up demand, perhaps. I just wanted to clarify if this means that corporate loans could reach around 50% of the loan mix in 2026.

Alejandro Caterberg: You're probably prioritizing corporate, as you were mentioning, the strong demand and the unlocking of a lot of pent-up demand, perhaps. Just wanted to clarify if this means that corporate loans could reach around 50% of the loan mix in 2026. Also, naturally, this brings lower yields, so just wondering if we should see a recovery in risk-adjusted NIMs by the second half of 2026, perhaps. I'll ask my second question. Thank you. We believe that the right approach, considering also the competitive landscape of new banks coming into the country, I mean, starting to work in the country, we believe that the right approach is to have a balanced approach in terms of serving enterprises, SMEs, and families or individuals. Having said that, loan demand will resume as of Q2 2026.

You're probably prioritizing corporate, as you were mentioning, the strong demand and the unlocking of a lot of pent-up demand, perhaps. Just wanted to clarify if this means that corporate loans could reach around 50% of the loan mix in 2026. Also, naturally, this brings lower yields, so just wondering if we should see a recovery in risk-adjusted NIMs by the second half of 2026, perhaps. I'll ask my second question. Thank you.

Speaker #5: And also, naturally, this brings lower yields. So, I'm just wondering if we should see a recovery in risk-adjusted NIMs by the second half of 2026, perhaps.

Speaker #5: Thank you for your patience. I'll now address my second question.

Speaker #3: We believe that the right approach considering also the competitive landscape of new banks coming into the country, I mean, starting to work in the country, we believe that the right approach is to have a balanced approach in terms of serving enterprises, SMEs, and families.

We believe that the right approach, considering also the competitive landscape of new banks coming into the country, I mean, starting to work in the country, we believe that the right approach is to have a balanced approach in terms of serving enterprises, SMEs, and families or individuals. Having said that, loan demand will resume as of Q2 2026.

Speaker #3: Our individuals. Having said that, loan demand will resume as of Q2 2026, for we believe it will resume with consumer confidence improving and better, maybe disposable income for individuals. To better answer your question, today I think the balance between enterprises and Mariano will confirm that the focus is still towards enterprises.

Alejandro Caterberg: We believe it will resume with consumer confidence improving and better, maybe disposable income for individuals. To answer your question, today, I think the balance between enterprises and Mariano will confirm that enterprises and individuals is tilted towards enterprises, corporations. It means more than 50%. I believe that this will continue to be the case, in my opinion, maybe the first half of 2026. When we see the conditions for individuals and loan demand raising again, it will probably go back to 50%, 50/50, or maybe higher. Being optimistic at the end of the fourth quarter 2026, being optimistic, maybe more retail demand. In order to have higher NIMs. I don't know if you want to complement the question. I think regarding the weight of corporate and retail, that is very complete.

We believe it will resume with consumer confidence improving and better, maybe disposable income for individuals. To answer your question, today, I think the balance between enterprises and Mariano will confirm that enterprises and individuals is tilted towards enterprises, corporations. It means more than 50%. I believe that this will continue to be the case, in my opinion, maybe the first half of 2026. When we see the conditions for individuals and loan demand raising again, it will probably go back to 50%, 50/50, or maybe higher. Being optimistic at the end of the fourth quarter 2026, being optimistic, maybe more retail demand. In order to have higher NIMs. I don't know if you want to complement the question. I think regarding the weight of corporate and retail, that is very complete.

Speaker #3: Corporations, so it means more than 50%. I believe that this will continue to be the case, in my opinion, maybe in the first half of 2026.

Speaker #3: And then, when we see the conditions for individuals and loan demand rising again, then it will probably go back to 50%, 50/50, or maybe higher. Optimistically, at the end of the fourth quarter 2026, there may be more retail demand, which would help achieve higher NIMs.

Speaker #3: I don't know if you want to complement the...

Speaker #3: question. No, I think it

Speaker #2: I was regarding the weight of corporate and retail. That is very complete. What I can add maybe is that on the corporate side, although we may expect it to be more balanced with retail for the end of next year, we can also start to see maybe in the second half of the year a change in tenors. Because remember that right now, and this is true also across the industry, almost all lending is for working capital.

Alejandro Caterberg: What I can add maybe is that on the corporate side, although maybe we expect it to be more balanced with retail for the end of next year, we can also start to see maybe in the second half of the year a change in tenors because remember that right now, and this is true also across industry, almost all lending is for working capital. It's very short term. What we could see happening next year is that we can see more loan demand for longer-term investments and not only working capital. That will also help to reduce. No, super clear. Then on risk-adjusted NIMs, should we think about, let's say, a U-shaped recovery by late 2026? As you mentioned, cost of risk coming down, perhaps. Is this maybe a correct observation, Mariano? Yes, I think it could be earlier than that.

What I can add maybe is that on the corporate side, although maybe we expect it to be more balanced with retail for the end of next year, we can also start to see maybe in the second half of the year a change in tenors because remember that right now, and this is true also across industry, almost all lending is for working capital. It's very short term. What we could see happening next year is that we can see more loan demand for longer-term investments and not only working capital. That will also help to reduce.

Speaker #2: It's very short-term. So what we could see happening next year is that we can see more loan demand for longer-term investments and not only working capital.

Speaker #2: So that will also help to reduce.

Brian Flores: No, super clear. Then on risk-adjusted NIMs, should we think about, let's say, a U-shaped recovery by late 2026? As you mentioned, cost of risk coming down, perhaps. Is this maybe a correct observation, Mariano?

Speaker #5: No, super clear. And then on risk-adjusted NIMs, should we think about, let's say, a U-shaped recovery by late 2026? As you mentioned, the cost of risk coming down, perhaps.

Speaker #5: Is this maybe a correct observation, Mariano?

Mariano Biglia: Yes, I think it could be earlier than that.

Speaker #2: It could be earlier than "Yes, I think that." As you know, with the expected loss model that is pro-cyclical, we are already provisioning for all the deterioration, including the early deterioration that we see, particularly in the retail portfolio.

Alejandro Caterberg: As you know, with the expected loss model that is pro-cycle, we are already provisioning all the deterioration, even the early deterioration that we see, particularly in the retail portfolio. When we see conditions improving, cost of risk should decrease very fast, and not only having to see an important recovery in real terms in the growth of the retail portfolio. In that case, we should be able to see a recovery in risk-adjusted NIMs for the retail portfolio, and that will also translate into the whole portfolio maybe early in the year, not having to wait for a second. No, super clear. Thank you. My second question is on risk management because obviously we're all excited about the Argentina story. I think Alejandro started saying that one of the key concerns that we receive, I think, is we have been here before.

As you know, with the expected loss model that is pro-cycle, we are already provisioning all the deterioration, even the early deterioration that we see, particularly in the retail portfolio. When we see conditions improving, cost of risk should decrease very fast, and not only having to see an important recovery in real terms in the growth of the retail portfolio. In that case, we should be able to see a recovery in risk-adjusted NIMs for the retail portfolio, and that will also translate into the whole portfolio maybe early in the year, not having to wait for a second.

Speaker #2: So, when we see conditions improving, the cost of risk should decrease very fast, and we should not only expect to see an important recovery in real terms in the growth of the retail portfolio.

Speaker #2: So, in that case, we should be able to see a recovery in risk-adjusted NIMs for the retail portfolio, and that will also translate into the whole portfolio maybe earlier in the year and not having to wait for the second half.

Brian Flores: No, super clear. Thank you. My second question is on risk management because obviously we're all excited about the Argentina story. I think Alejandro started saying that one of the key concerns that we receive, I think, is we have been here before.

Speaker #5: No, super clear. Thank you. And my second question is on risk management because obviously we’re all excited about the Argentine story. I think Alejandro started saying that one of the key concerns that we receive, I think, is we have been here before.

Speaker #5: And Patricio, you mentioned a lot of optimism, right? Not only the political but also, I would say, the economic landscape. But I just wanted to hear your thoughts on what if, right? What could happen if things do not go well, if the reserve requirements remain high?

Alejandro Caterberg: Patricio, you mentioned a lot of optimism, right, in not only the political, but also I would say the economic landscape. I just wanted to hear your thoughts on what if, right, what could happen if things do not go well, if the reserve requirements remain high? Are there any considerations by you or the board regarding any alternatives? Could be partnerships, asset sales, M&A? If the base case scenario does not pan out and we have, let's say, a less bullish scenario? Well, yeah, I mean, I think that the risk scenario that a lot of people are talking about is the policy the government is having about reserves, foreign reserves. I think there is a certain risk that, for instance, you have a lot of people traveling abroad, spending money abroad because you have the sensation that it's relatively cheap.

Patricio, you mentioned a lot of optimism, right, in not only the political, but also I would say the economic landscape. I just wanted to hear your thoughts on what if, right, what could happen if things do not go well, if the reserve requirements remain high? Are there any considerations by you or the board regarding any alternatives? Could be partnerships, asset sales, M&A? If the base case scenario does not pan out and we have, let's say, a less bullish scenario?

Speaker #5: Are there any considerations by you or the board regarding any alternatives? These could involve partnerships, asset sales, or M&A. If the base case scenario does not pan out and we have, let's say, a less bullish scenario?

Patricio Supervielle: Well, yeah, I mean, I think that the risk scenario that a lot of people are talking about is the policy the government is having about reserves, foreign reserves. I think there is a certain risk that, for instance, you have a lot of people traveling abroad, spending money abroad because you have the sensation that it's relatively cheap.

Speaker #3: Well, yeah, I mean, I think that the risk scenario that a lot of people are talking about is the policy the government is having regarding reserves, foreign reserves.

Speaker #3: And they are I think it's I think there is a certain risk that, for instance, you have people, a lot of people traveling abroad, spending money abroad because you have the sensation that it's relatively cheap.

Speaker #3: And at the same time, the central bank is not building reserves. So, well, we can understand the reason because they have the support of the USA and so on.

Alejandro Caterberg: At the same time, the central bank is not building reserves. Well, I can understand the reason because they have the support of the USA and so on. Eventually, things are volatile in the world, and that could potentially be a problem. I think, of course, they want to focus on inflation and make sure that rapidly inflation comes down. This is why I think they are keeping a tight control on FX. Regarding our franchise, I think what we're doing, we are working always to improve our resiliency in terms of the way we originate, the way of our origination standards for individuals. We anticipated earlier than other banks that this deterioration takes this year. I think we are good in this.

At the same time, the central bank is not building reserves. Well, I can understand the reason because they have the support of the USA and so on. Eventually, things are volatile in the world, and that could potentially be a problem. I think, of course, they want to focus on inflation and make sure that rapidly inflation comes down. This is why I think they are keeping a tight control on FX. Regarding our franchise, I think what we're doing, we are working always to improve our resiliency in terms of the way we originate, the way of our origination standards for individuals. We anticipated earlier than other banks that this deterioration takes this year. I think we are good in this.

Speaker #3: But eventually, things are volatile in the world, and that could potentially be a problem. I think, of course, they want to focus on inflation and make sure that rapidly inflation comes down.

Speaker #3: And this is why I think they are keeping a tight control on effects. Regarding our franchise, I think what we're doing is always working to improve our resiliency.

Speaker #3: In terms of the way we originate the way of our origination standard for individuals, we anticipated earlier than other banks that this deterioration that took place this year. So we are, I think, we are good in this.

Speaker #3: And at the same time, since Paco arrived at the company, at the bank, he implemented a complete reshuffle of the culture of the bank in order to become much more customer-centric and have people more accountable.

Alejandro Caterberg: At the same time, since Paco arrived to the company, to the bank, he's implemented a complete reshuffle of the culture of the bank in order basically to become much more customer-centric and have people more accountable. We have people now that are completely engaged, aligned, and committed to going the extra mile. We are working in the ecosystem, in our ecosystem. We have a very strong company in our own ecosystem, which is InvertirOnline, which is at the verge of the next stage of InvertirOnline, because they already achieved something which is quite remarkable. They are the most and by far the biggest digital broker in the country for retail investors. This is fantastic what they did in the last four years. Now they will maintain this. They are very efficient, and they have the scale and the technology.

At the same time, since Paco arrived to the company, to the bank, he's implemented a complete reshuffle of the culture of the bank in order basically to become much more customer-centric and have people more accountable. We have people now that are completely engaged, aligned, and committed to going the extra mile. We are working in the ecosystem, in our ecosystem. We have a very strong company in our own ecosystem, which is InvertirOnline, which is at the verge of the next stage of InvertirOnline, because they already achieved something which is quite remarkable. They are the most and by far the biggest digital broker in the country for retail investors. This is fantastic what they did in the last four years. Now they will maintain this. They are very efficient, and they have the scale and the technology.

Speaker #3: So we have people now that are completely engaged, aligned, and committed to going the extra mile. We are working in the ecosystem in our ecosystem, we have a very strong company in our own ecosystem, which is Inverter Online, which is in the verge of in the next state, the next stage of Inverter Online, because they already achieved something which is quite remarkable, is they are the most and by far the biggest digital broker in the country for retail investors.

Speaker #3: This is fantastic what they did in the last four years. But now they will maintain this. They are very efficient, and they have the scale and the technology.

Speaker #3: But now they will go to the second stage, which is to concentrate on wealthy and affluent people in enterprises and IFAs. They have the teams to do that, the engineers, and they will invest more in that to make sure that we get fast to this stage.

Alejandro Caterberg: They will go to the second stage, which is to concentrate on wealthy people, wealthier and affluent people in enterprises, in IFAs. They have the teams to do that, the engineers, and they will invest more on that to make sure that we get fast to this stage. This engine gives us the opportunity to do a fantastic cross-sell in order to acquire bank clients. I think we are prepared to competition. We are prepared for what is coming, and we've lived for different previous crises and so on. No, also, Patricio, we are always open to make some strategic alliances. We are open in order to define the new future for Argentina in our industry. Yes, we are open. We are analyzing a lot of them.

They will go to the second stage, which is to concentrate on wealthy people, wealthier and affluent people in enterprises, in IFAs. They have the teams to do that, the engineers, and they will invest more on that to make sure that we get fast to this stage. This engine gives us the opportunity to do a fantastic cross-sell in order to acquire bank clients. I think we are prepared to competition. We are prepared for what is coming, and we've lived for different previous crises and so on.

Speaker #3: And this engine gives us the opportunity to do a fantastic cross-sell in order to acquire bank clients. So I think we are prepared for competition.

Speaker #3: We are prepared for what is coming, and we have lived through different previous crises.

Speaker #3: on. Oh, also, Patricio, we

Alejandro Caterberg: No, also, Patricio, we are always open to make some strategic alliances. We are open in order to define the new future for Argentina in our industry. Yes, we are open. We are analyzing a lot of them.

Speaker #1: We are always open to making some strategic alliances. So we are open in order to define the new future for Argentina in our industry. So yes, we are open.

Speaker #1: We are analyzing a lot of them. But basically, we also have a conversation with huge retailers in order to make some strategic alliances.

Alejandro Caterberg: Basically, we have a conversation with huge retailers in order to make some strategic alliances. Yes, we are open. We understand the change, the transformation in the world about this industry. Yes, we are open, and we want to make a new bank, a very attractive bank. Yes, we are open for new businesses. Super clear. Thank you, team. Thank you, Brian. Thank you, Brian. Maybe our next question comes from Camila Severo from UBS. The only thing, maybe we need you to ask just one question because we are running out of time. We still have two more questions to answer. Hello. Good morning, Camila. Good morning, everyone. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking my question. I'll keep it brief. I want to comment. I want you to address more on asset quality topics.

Basically, we have a conversation with huge retailers in order to make some strategic alliances. Yes, we are open. We understand the change, the transformation in the world about this industry. Yes, we are open, and we want to make a new bank, a very attractive bank. Yes, we are open for new businesses.

Speaker #1: So yes, we are open. We understand the change, the transformation in the world about these industries. So yes, we are open. And we want to make a new bank, a new, very attractive bank.

Speaker #1: So yes, we are open for new.

Speaker #1: businesses. No, super

Brian Flores: Super clear. Thank you, team.

Speaker #5: Thank you, team.

Ana Bartesaghi: Thank you, Brian.

Speaker #6: Thank clear.

Patricio Supervielle: Thank you, Brian.

Speaker #1: Thank you, Brian. you, Brian.

Ana Bartesaghi: Maybe our next question comes from Camila Severo from UBS. The only thing, maybe we need you to ask just one question because we are running out of time. We still have two more questions to answer. Hello. Good morning, Camila.

Speaker #6: Maybe our next question comes from Camila Severo from UBS. The only thing maybe we need you to ask just one question because we are running out of time.

Speaker #6: So we still have two more questions to answer. But hello, good morning.

Speaker #6: Camila. Okay.

[Analyst] (UBS): Good morning, everyone. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking my question. I'll keep it brief. I want to comment. I want you to address more on asset quality topics.

Speaker #7: Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking my question. I'll keep it brief. I want to comment and I would like you to address more on asset quality topics.

Speaker #7: So, could you please give more color about the NPL dynamics during the quarter? Do you think that the numbers seen in the quarter were the peak?

Alejandro Caterberg: Could you please give more color about the NPL dynamics during the quarter? Do you think that the numbers seen in the quarter was the peak, or are you seeing any signs of peak? When should we expect it to happen in both segments? Which would be the comfortable coverage ratio level that you imagine given this context? Well, first of all, asset quality deterioration this quarter mirrors system-wide trends as the credit cycle adjusts to the macroeconomic environment. After a very unusually benign period of NPLs, low NPLs, there rose across existing and new customers driven by pressure on disposable income and tariff adjustments, and also the shift to a disinflationary environment where debt no longer erodes in real terms. This was most visible in retail.

Could you please give more color about the NPL dynamics during the quarter? Do you think that the numbers seen in the quarter was the peak, or are you seeing any signs of peak? When should we expect it to happen in both segments? Which would be the comfortable coverage ratio level that you imagine given this context?

Speaker #7: Or are you seeing any signs of a peak? When should we expect it to happen in both segments? And which would be the comfortable coverage ratio level that you imagine given this?

Speaker #7: context? Well, first of all,

Patricio Supervielle: Well, first of all, asset quality deterioration this quarter mirrors system-wide trends as the credit cycle adjusts to the macroeconomic environment. After a very unusually benign period of NPLs, low NPLs, there rose across existing and new customers driven by pressure on disposable income and tariff adjustments, and also the shift to a disinflationary environment where debt no longer erodes in real terms. This was most visible in retail.

Speaker #3: Asset quality deterioration this quarter mirrors system-wide trends as the credit cycle adjusts to the macroeconomic environment. After a very unusually benign period of non-performing loans (NPLs), low NPLs rose across existing and new customers, driven by pressure on disposable income, tariff adjustments, and also the shift to a disinflationary environment where debt no longer erodes in real terms.

Speaker #3: This was most visible in retail. We had anticipated this deterioration and a tightening origination criteria in personal auto and car loans since the beginning of the year.

Alejandro Caterberg: We had anticipated this deterioration and tightening origination criteria in personal auto and car loans since the beginning of the year, reinforcing collection and also client support. Unfortunately, the sharp pre-election rate hikes added further stress through our individual NPL shares. Our individual NPL share in the market remains below our retail loan share, showing relative resilience. We believe that these NPLs are going forward. I think we believe that this trend is manageable, and we expect gradual improvement as macro conditions and consumer confidence normalizes. I don't know if you want to add or Mariano complement. Yes, I can just complement on the NPL expectations. Maybe we can see a peak in the fourth quarter as you know of rollover of early deterioration comes NPL maybe at the end or during the fourth quarter.

We had anticipated this deterioration and tightening origination criteria in personal auto and car loans since the beginning of the year, reinforcing collection and also client support. Unfortunately, the sharp pre-election rate hikes added further stress through our individual NPL shares. Our individual NPL share in the market remains below our retail loan share, showing relative resilience. We believe that these NPLs are going forward. I think we believe that this trend is manageable, and we expect gradual improvement as macro conditions and consumer confidence normalizes. I don't know if you want to add or Mariano complement.

Speaker #3: And reinforcing collection and also client support. Unfortunately, the sharp pre-election rate hikes added further stress to our individual NPL shares, but our individual NPL share in the market remains below our retail loan share.

Speaker #3: So this is showing relative resilience. We believe that these NPLs are going forward, I think we believe that this trend is manageable. And we expect rather improvement as macro conditions and consumer confidence normalizes.

Speaker #3: I don't know if you want to add, or Mariano. Compliment.

Mariano Biglia: Yes, I can just complement on the NPL expectations. Maybe we can see a peak in the fourth quarter as you know of rollover of early deterioration comes NPL maybe at the end or during the fourth quarter.

Speaker #2: Yes, I can just comment on the NPL expectations. Maybe we can see a peak in the fourth quarter as the rollover of early deterioration comes NPL, maybe at the end or during the fourth quarter.

Speaker #2: And also, when conditions improve, not only will we see NPLs decreasing, but we will also see long growth increasing. This will dilute NPLs, and we will see that number improving.

Alejandro Caterberg: When conditions improve, not only will we see NPLs decreasing, but also loan growth increasing. That will also dilute NPLs, and we will see that number improving. For the impact of high interest rates on economic activity in the third quarter, we still can see the NPL rate increasing in the fourth quarter. I think that will be the peak. Okay. Super clear. Thank you. Yeah, the coverage ratio, please. Regarding the coverage ratio, as I mentioned before, we follow the expected loss models. When NPLs are very low, coverage tends to go very high. In fact, in the past, we were about 200%. Now those provisions are being used. That is why we see the coverage decreasing, but it should always remain about 100% compared to NPLs. We should see it in the range of 110% to 120%. Thank you, Camila.

When conditions improve, not only will we see NPLs decreasing, but also loan growth increasing. That will also dilute NPLs, and we will see that number improving. For the impact of high interest rates on economic activity in the third quarter, we still can see the NPL rate increasing in the fourth quarter. I think that will be the peak.

Speaker #2: But for the impact of high interest rates on economic activity in the third quarter, we still can see NPLs; the NPL rate is increasing in the fourth quarter.

Speaker #2: And I think that will be the peak.

[Analyst] (UBS): Okay. Super clear. Thank you. Yeah, the coverage ratio, please.

Speaker #6: And super clear. Thank you. Yeah, the coverage ratio, please.

Patricio Supervielle: Regarding the coverage ratio, as I mentioned before, we follow the expected loss models. When NPLs are very low, coverage tends to go very high. In fact, in the past, we were about 200%. Now those provisions are being used. That is why we see the coverage decreasing, but it should always remain about 100% compared to NPLs. We should see it in the range of 110% to 120%.

Speaker #2: And regarding the coverage ratio, as I mentioned before, we follow the expected loss models. So when NPLs are very low, coverage tends to go very high.

Speaker #2: In fact, in the past, we were about 200%. Now that those provisions are being used, we see the coverage decreasing.

Speaker #2: But it should always remain above 100% compared to NPLs. So we should see it in the range of 110% to 120%.

Speaker #6: Thank you, Camila. The next question comes from Ricardo Cabana with Itaú. Hello, good morning, Ricardo. Please go ahead.

Ana Bartesaghi: Thank you, Camila.

Alejandro Caterberg: The next questions come from Ricardo Cabanac with Itaú. Hello, good morning, Ricardo. Please go ahead. Yes, good morning, Ana and all. As I look into 2026, for me, it's not just another year. It has a big déjà vu of Argentina of the '90s, with positive expectations for credit, and credit to GDP was double where it stands. My question would be, which are the new actions that you believe you still need to take, and which are the new risks that you think you still need to face in order to generate new results in a new and different environment? Perhaps the first question is if you agree with this possibility or with this positive outlook as well. Thank you. I think that we need to make sure that we increase the leverage of the bank.

The next questions come from Ricardo Cabanac with Itaú. Hello, good morning, Ricardo. Please go ahead.

[Analyst] (Itau): Yes, good morning, Ana and all. As I look into 2026, for me, it's not just another year. It has a big déjà vu of Argentina of the '90s, with positive expectations for credit, and credit to GDP was double where it stands. My question would be, which are the new actions that you believe you still need to take, and which are the new risks that you think you still need to face in order to generate new results in a new and different environment? Perhaps the first question is if you agree with this possibility or with this positive outlook as well. Thank you.

Speaker #8: Yes, good morning, Ana and all. As I look into 2026, for me, it's not just another year. It has a big déjà vu of Argentina of the '90s, with a positive expectation for credit, and credit to GDP was double where it stands.

Speaker #8: So my question would be, which are the new actions that you believe you still need to take? And which are the new risks that you think you still need to face in order to generate new results in a new and different environment?

Speaker #8: Perhaps the first question is, if you agree with this possibility or with this positive outlook as well. Thank you.

Speaker #3: I think that we need to make sure that there is we need to make sure that we increase the leverage of the bank. This is a challenge of all banks, but in our case, it's our challenge.

Patricio Supervielle: I think that we need to make sure that we increase the leverage of the bank.

Alejandro Caterberg: This is a challenge of all banks, but in our case, it's our challenge. I think that we will, it's clear that savings in Argentina is still a pending issue for Argentina. The share of savings of GDP is still very low. We need to build a bridge in order to make sure that the bank gets leveraged. This bridge, I believe, will come in international markets. We will be looking in order, we will tap international debt markets if conditions arise. The flavor of this is what we already did with the multilaterals, where 45 days ago, we got up to $270 million in terms of facilities for years for multilaterals because we have a focus in SMEs. Another thing that I think for me, it's very interesting. I don't know whether it will happen or not.

This is a challenge of all banks, but in our case, it's our challenge. I think that we will, it's clear that savings in Argentina is still a pending issue for Argentina. The share of savings of GDP is still very low. We need to build a bridge in order to make sure that the bank gets leveraged. This bridge, I believe, will come in international markets. We will be looking in order, we will tap international debt markets if conditions arise. The flavor of this is what we already did with the multilaterals, where 45 days ago, we got up to $270 million in terms of facilities for years for multilaterals because we have a focus in SMEs. Another thing that I think for me, it's very interesting. I don't know whether it will happen or not.

Speaker #3: And I think that we will. It's clear that savings in Argentina is still a pending issue for Argentina, with the share of savings of GDP still very low.

Speaker #3: So, in order, we need to build a bridge to ensure that the bank gets leverage. I believe this bridge will come in international markets.

Speaker #3: So, we will be looking in order to tap international debt markets if conditions arise. The flavor of this is what we already did with the multilaterals, where 45 days ago we secured up to $270 million in terms of facilities for four years from multilaterals.

Speaker #3: Because we have a focus in SMEs. So and another thing that I think for me it's very interesting, I don't know whether it will happen or not, is first in to try to repeat what we did in 2017 where we also tapped in peso linked debt.

Alejandro Caterberg: First, to try to repeat what we did in 2017, where we also tapped in PesoLink debt. This is not yet the case because there is not yet a market for PesoLink debt. We did this in 2017. Also, something that maybe for this stage is maybe a dream, but this is my dream at least. I think that if confidence is built in Argentina, then there will be a possibility of rotating assets. I mean, let's say originating loans and maybe sell those loans to the local capital market or maybe international markets if there is a fit. This is something that could happen. We are always looking to this opportunity because this will be a fantastic way of growing without consuming capital. Okay. Thank you very much. Very interesting. Thank you, Ricardo.

First, to try to repeat what we did in 2017, where we also tapped in PesoLink debt. This is not yet the case because there is not yet a market for PesoLink debt. We did this in 2017. Also, something that maybe for this stage is maybe a dream, but this is my dream at least. I think that if confidence is built in Argentina, then there will be a possibility of rotating assets. I mean, let's say originating loans and maybe sell those loans to the local capital market or maybe international markets if there is a fit. This is something that could happen. We are always looking to this opportunity because this will be a fantastic way of growing without consuming capital.

Speaker #3: This is not yet the case because there is not yet a market for peso-linked debt. But we did this in 2017.

Speaker #3: And also something that maybe for this stage is a dream, but this is my dream at least. I think that if confidence is built in Argentina, then there will be a possibility of rotating assets.

Speaker #3: I mean, let's say we're originating loans and maybe selling those loans to the local capital market or maybe international markets if this is something that could happen.

Speaker #3: And so we are always looking to this opportunity because this will be a fantastic way of growing without consuming capital.

[Analyst] (Itau): Okay. Thank you very much. Very interesting.

Speaker #8: Okay, thank you very much.

Speaker #8: interesting. Thank you, Ricardo.

Ana Bartesaghi: Thank you, Ricardo.

Speaker #6: I think we covered the last questions that came from Pedro of Engenden, from Latin Securities. Hello, good morning, Pedro. How are you?

Alejandro Caterberg: I think we have the last questions come from Pedro Enghendeng from Latin Securities. Hello, good morning, Pedro. How are you? Hello. Hi, Ana. Hi, team. Thank you for the call. I had one question on how do you assess liquidity conditions in the system going forward, in the system and in the bank going forward, and if you see liquidity as a potential constraint for great growth in 2026? As the monetary base remains very small, even in historical terms, we are already seeing a rebound in money demand after the elections. This is key, the increasing money demand. This should support system-wide deposit growth, and confidence consolidates. We could expect that gradual lengthening of deposit duration. That is, more people investing in time deposits.

I think we have the last questions come from Pedro Offenhenden from Latin Securities. Hello, good morning, Pedro. How are you?

Speaker #6: you? Hello.

Pedro Offenhenden: Hello. Hi, Ana. Hi, team. Thank you for the call. I had one question on how do you assess liquidity conditions in the system going forward, in the system and in the bank going forward, and if you see liquidity as a potential constraint for great growth in 2026?

Speaker #9: Hi, Ana. Hi, team. Thank you for the call. I had one question: how do you assess liquidity conditions in the system going forward, in the system and in the bank?

Speaker #9: And if you see liquidity as a potential constraint for great growth into.

Speaker #9: 2026? As the

Patricio Supervielle: As the monetary base remains very small, even in historical terms, we are already seeing a rebound in money demand after the elections. This is key, the increasing money demand. This should support system-wide deposit growth, and confidence consolidates. We could expect that gradual lengthening of deposit duration. That is, more people investing in time deposits.

Speaker #3: The monetary base remains very small, even in historical terms. We already see a rebound in money demand after the elections; this is key—the increase in money demand.

Speaker #3: This should support system-wide deposit growth. As confidence consolidates, we could expect a gradual lengthening of deposit duration; that is, more people investing in time deposits.

Speaker #3: Another thing, another issue which is central also is the central bank favoring financial intermediation because, as of today, around 30% to 35% of deposits of the system come from money markets.

Alejandro Caterberg: Another issue, which is central also, is the central bank favoring financial intermediation because as of today, around 30% to 35% of deposits of the system come from money markets. This is not normal. If the central bank wants to, let's say, favor credit to the private sector, then they need to eventually regulate differentiated reserve requirements to make deposits more attractive than money market funds. For us to also tackle the liquidity constraints, I think we have the right strategy because the rollout of the Cuenta Remunerada and cash management solutions for corporate payroll accounts and the entire ecosystem, I think, positions us well to capture more stable and high-quality deposits. As I said before, finally, we will try to tap the international markets if conditions arise. Thank you, Pedro.

Another issue, which is central also, is the central bank favoring financial intermediation because as of today, around 30% to 35% of deposits of the system come from money markets. This is not normal. If the central bank wants to, let's say, favor credit to the private sector, then they need to eventually regulate differentiated reserve requirements to make deposits more attractive than money market funds. For us to also tackle the liquidity constraints, I think we have the right strategy because the rollout of the Cuenta Remunerada and cash management solutions for corporate payroll accounts and the entire ecosystem, I think, positions us well to capture more stable and high-quality deposits. As I said before, finally, we will try to tap the international markets if conditions arise.

Speaker #3: And this is not normal. And if you want, if the central bank wants to, let's say, to favor credit to the private sector, then they need to go to eventually regulate differentiated reserve requirements for to make deposits more attractive than money market funds.

Speaker #3: And for us to also to tackle the liquidity constraints, I think we have the right strategy because the rollout of the quinta remunerada and cash management solutions for corporate payroll accounts and all the entire ecosystem I think positions us well to capture more stable and higher quality deposits.

Speaker #3: And, as I said before, finally, we will try to tap the international markets if conditions permit.

Speaker #3: arise. Thank you,

Ana Bartesaghi: Thank you, Pedro.

Speaker #6: Pedro, I think we have some questions in the Q&A, but I believe all of them were addressed. Ignacio from Invertir en Bolsa, I think all of them were mainly addressed.

Alejandro Caterberg: I think we had some in the Q&A, but I think all of them were addressed. Ignacio Chalski from Invertir en Bolsa, I think all of them mainly were addressed. The rest of the KPIs in terms of guidance, we are going to provide them maybe at the beginning of the year formally, when we have more, as Mariano mentioned, clarity in terms of what happens with reserve requirements and rate as well. From a Cap Securities, Cecilia, I think we already discussed about NPLs. In terms of shares canceled, they are automatically being canceled after three years of being in the treasury, held by the treasury. I think by the end of the year, being this next year, 3% of the capital has been canceled, but not more than that.

Alejandro Caterberg: I think we had some in the Q&A, but I think all of them were addressed. Ignacio Chalski from Invertir en Bolsa, I think all of them mainly were addressed. The rest of the KPIs in terms of guidance, we are going to provide them maybe at the beginning of the year formally, when we have more, as Mariano mentioned, clarity in terms of what happens with reserve requirements and rate as well. From a Cap Securities, Cecilia, I think we already discussed about NPLs. In terms of shares canceled, they are automatically being canceled after three years of being in the treasury, held by the treasury. I think by the end of the year, being this next year, 3% of the capital has been canceled, but not more than that.

Speaker #6: The rest of the QPAs, in terms of guidance, we are going to provide them maybe at the beginning of the year. Formally, so when we have more, as Mariano mentioned, clarity in terms of what happens with reserve requirements and rates as well.

Speaker #6: Then from a cap securities, I think we already discussed about MPLs. And then in terms of shares can sell there, they are automatically being canceled after three years of being in the treasury, held by the treasury.

Speaker #6: So I think by the end of the year, being this next year, 3% of the capital has been canceled. And that's not more than that.

Speaker #6: So, I think with no more questions, we have arrived at the end of the Q&A session. Thank you all for joining us. A lot of people today.

Alejandro Caterberg: I think with no more questions, we arrived at the end of the Q&A session. Thank you all for joining us. A lot of people today. We're sorry we delayed a bit, and we know there is another call from another bank at the same time. Thank you all for joining. I do appreciate your question. It was a difficult quarter, but I'm optimistic for 2026. We do have the two, I think the two best CEOs of Argentina for Tutaco, for the bank, and with Paco and Diego for InvertirOnline. I think I'm very optimistic about the future. Thank you very much. Thank you. Goodbye.

Alejandro Caterberg: I think with no more questions, we arrived at the end of the Q&A session. Thank you all for joining us. A lot of people today. We're sorry we delayed a bit, and we know there is another call from another bank at the same time. Thank you all for joining. I do appreciate your question. It was a difficult quarter, but I'm optimistic for 2026. We do have the two, I think the two best CEOs of Argentina for Tutaco, for the bank, and with Paco and Diego for InvertirOnline. I think I'm very optimistic about the future. Thank you very much. Thank you. Goodbye.

Speaker #6: We're sorry we delayed a bit, and we know there is another call from another bank at the same time. So, thank you all for joining.

Speaker #3: I do appreciate your question. It was a difficult part, but it was I'm optimistic for 2026. And we do have the two that I think the two best CEOs of Argentina for to tackle for the bank and with Paco and Diego for Invertir Online.

Speaker #3: So, I think I'm very optimistic about it very much.

Speaker #1: Goodbye.