Speaker #2: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to today's conference call to discuss Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory's financial results for the third quarter, 2026.
Speaker #2: At this time, all participants are on listen-only mode. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Joining us on the call today are the company's Interim Chairman, Jeff Geygan, and CFO, Carrie Cass.
Speaker #2: Please be advised that this conference will contain statements that are considered forward-looking statements. Under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, these forward-looking statements are subject to certain known and unknown risks and uncertainties, as well as assumptions that could cause actual results to differ materially from those reflected in these forward-looking statements.
Speaker #2: These forward-looking statements are also subject to other risks and uncertainties that are described from time to time in the company's filings with the SEC.
These forward-looking statements are also subject to other risks and uncertainties that are described from time to time in the company's filings with the SEC. Do not place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements, which are being made only as of the date of this call. Except as required by law, the company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements. And now I'll turn the call over to the company's Interim CEO, Jeffrey Geygan. Jeff, please go ahead.
Speaker #2: Do not place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements, which are being made only as of the date of this call, except as required by law.
Speaker #2: The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements. And now, I'll turn the call over to the company's interim CEO, Jeffrey Geygan.
Speaker #2: Jeff, please go
Speaker #2: ahead. Good morning, and thank
Jeffrey Geygan: Good morning, and thank you for joining us. During Q3, we continued to execute our margin-first transformation strategy, making deliberate decisions to prioritize profitability and long-term value creation over lower-quality revenue. While these actions resulted in a near-term revenue pressure and a modest net loss for the quarter, they're foundational to restoring long-term sustainable growth and shareholder value creation.
Speaker #3: Thank you for joining us. During the third quarter, we continued to execute our margin-first transformation strategy, making deliberate decisions to prioritize profitability and long-term value creation over lower-quality revenue.
Speaker #3: While these actions resulted in near-term revenue pressure and a modest net loss for the quarter, they're foundational to restoring long-term sustainable growth and shareholder value creation.
Speaker #3: The results from this quarter reflect important progress in our efforts, as we delivered meaningful improvement in gross profit and margin. We continue to believe there's a clear path to maintain and further expand margins as we strengthen the foundation of our business.
The results from this quarter reflect important progress in our efforts as we delivered meaningful improvement in gross profit and margin. We continue to believe there's a clear path to maintain and further expand margins as we strengthen the foundation of our business. Our business transformation is focused on disciplined execution, improving product mix, implementing thoughtful price actions, simplifying our SKU portfolio, and building the operational and technology capabilities required to support long-term growth. While we're still navigating some persistently higher input costs and near-term inefficiencies related to our production transition, the actions we've taken are now showing in our financial results. We are also very encouraged by the momentum we're seeing with our franchise development pipeline. We currently have two new stores under construction and 34 stores under recently negotiated area development agreements, demonstrating interest from well-capitalized, financially sophisticated, new, and existing operators.
Speaker #3: Our business transformation is focused on disciplined execution, improving product mix, implementing thoughtful price actions, simplifying our SKU portfolio, and building the operational and technology capabilities required to support long-term growth.
Speaker #3: While we're still navigating some persistently higher input costs and near-term inefficiencies related to our production transition, the actions we've taken are now showing in our financial results.
Speaker #3: We are also very encouraged by the momentum we're seeing with our franchise development pipeline. We currently have two new stores under construction and 34 stores under recently negotiated area development agreements, demonstrating interest from well-capitalized, financially sophisticated, new and existing operators.
Speaker #3: Our franchise development team is working on building an additional backlog of new franchise opportunities, supported by our clear messaging with a refreshed brand direction and targeted digital marketing efforts to identify the right partners to grow and succeed with our brand.
Our franchise development team is working on building additional backlog of new franchise opportunities, supported by our clear messaging with a refreshed brand direction, and targeted digital marketing efforts to identify the right partners to grow and succeed with our brand. I'll now step through several highlights from the quarter, including our operational progress, franchise development momentum, and continued execution across technology and e-commerce initiatives. During the quarter and past year, we continued to make intentional decisions to exit lower-margin specialty and wholesale revenue streams. While this resulted in a modest year-over-year decline in total revenue, it predictably contributed to a significant improvement in gross profit dollars and margin. We reported a 21.4% gross manufacturing margin for the quarter ended November 30th 2025, compared to 10% for the same quarter of the prior year and a negative 0.6% for the previous quarter ended August 31st 2025.
Speaker #3: I'll now step through several highlights from the quarter, including our operational progress, franchise development momentum, and continued execution across technology and e-commerce initiatives. During the quarter and past year, we continued to make intentional decisions to exit lower-margin specialty and wholesale revenue streams.
Speaker #3: While this resulted in a modest year-over-year decline in total revenue, it predictably contributed to a significant improvement in gross profit dollars and margin. We reported a 21.4% gross manufacturing margin for the quarter ended November 30, 2025, compared to 10% for the same quarter of the prior year and a negative 0.6% for the previous quarter ended August 31.
Speaker #3: We're pleased with this progress, while recognizing there's room for further improvement. We've implemented a series of targeted price adjustments over the past year, and as recently as January 2, all designed to achieve a specific margin objective across our four core franchise categories, including bulk candies, packaged goods, supplies, and ingredients.
We're pleased with this progress while recognizing there's room for further improvement. We've implemented a series of targeted price adjustments over the past year and as recently as January 2nd, all designed to achieve a specific margin objective across our four core franchise categories, including bulk candies, packaged goods, supplies, and ingredients. These adjustments were not uniformly upward. In fact, some prices remained unchanged while others were reduced as we attempt to optimize our sales mix and throughput across our network of over 250 franchised and licensed locations. Collectively, these adjustments are expected to support margin expansion over time in a balanced way that enables strong economic results for our franchise and licensed partners, as well as the company. In addition to price adjustments, we're beginning to realize the benefits from SKU rationalization and production labor efficiencies.
Speaker #3: These adjustments were not uniformly upward. In fact, some prices remained unchanged while others were reduced, as we attempt to optimize our sales mix and throughput across our network of over 250 franchised and licensed locations.
Speaker #3: Collectively, these adjustments are expected to support margin expansion over time in a balanced way that enables strong economic results for our franchised and licensed partners, as well as the company.
Speaker #3: In addition to price adjustments, we're beginning to realize the benefits from SKU rationalization and production labor efficiencies. This includes the elimination of hundreds of low-contributing SKUs, the elimination of temporary labor, and a larger reduction in overtime hours with improved production scheduling.
This includes the elimination of hundreds of low-contributing SKUs, the elimination of temporary labor, and a large reduction in overtime hours, and improved production scheduling. We also added a second production shift at the chocolate factory to provide greater flexibility and efficiencies in scheduling and maintenance. We believe there's an additional $500,000-1 million of savings that can be realized in our current cost structure. This disciplined rationalization highlights the cornerstone of the new company culture: simplify production, reduce operational complexity, and improve manufacturing throughput. Looking ahead, we expect to recognize the benefit from lower input costs, including the recent elimination of an approximate 10% tariff on cocoa. As cocoa prices have come down in recent months, we have executed a thoughtful and timely purchasing strategy that directly impacts our cost of chocolate, and have locked in nearly 20% of our expected annual consumption volume at recent favorable prices.
Speaker #3: We also added a second production shift at the chocolate factory to provide greater flexibility and efficiencies in scheduling and maintenance. We believe there's an additional $500,000 to $1 million of savings that can be realized in our current cost structure.
Speaker #3: This discipline rationalization highlights the cornerstone of the new company culture: simplify production, reduce operational complexity, and improve manufacturing throughput. Looking ahead, we expect to recognize the benefit from lower input costs, including the recent elimination of an approximate 10% tariff on cocoa.
Speaker #3: As cocoa prices have come down in recent months, we have executed a thoughtful and timely purchasing strategy that directly impacts our cost of chocolate.
Speaker #3: And have locked in nearly 20% of our expected annual consumption volume at recent favorable prices. Franchise development remains a key strategic revenue pillar of our long-term business plan, as momentum continued to build during the quarter and beyond.
Franchise development remains a key strategic revenue pillar of our long-term business plan as momentum continued to build during the quarter and beyond. We currently have two new stores under construction and 34 stores under area development agreements, reflecting growing interest from experienced multi-unit operators aligned with our refreshed strategy and brand direction. These agreements generally contemplate a four to five-year build-out period, with the initial store construction required within the first year and sequenced annually thereafter. We'll provide ongoing details as leases are signed and construction is initiated. Our focus remains on quality over quantity as we partner with operators who are well-capitalized, operationally sophisticated, and committed to building long-term value within the Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory network. At the same time, we are rationalizing our current store base by allowing the closing of underperforming locations that contribute minimal revenue and can negatively impact our premium brand image.
Speaker #3: We currently have two new stores under construction and 34 stores under area development agreements, reflecting growing interest from experienced, multi-unit operators aligned with our refreshed strategy and brand direction.
Speaker #3: These agreements generally contemplate a four- to five-year build-out period, with the initial store construction required within the first year and sequenced annually thereafter. We'll provide ongoing details as leases are signed and construction is initiated.
Speaker #3: Our focus remains on quality over quantity as we partner with operators who are well-capitalized, operationally sophisticated, and committed to building long-term value within the Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory network.
Speaker #3: At the same time, we are rationalizing our current store base by allowing the closing of underperforming locations that contribute minimal revenue and can negatively impact our premium brand image.
Speaker #3: While new store openings are conducted at a measured pace, our team is working to reduce overall development costs and shorten the timeline from lease signing to opening, which currently stands at about six months.
While new store openings are conducted in a measured pace, our team is working to reduce overall development costs and shorten the timeline from lease signing to opening, which currently stands at about six months. We believe this disciplined approach positions us well to expand thoughtfully into both existing and new markets over time while improving average unit performance across our network. We hired a new VP of franchise development in August. He attended our September National Franchise Convention and engaged with well over a dozen current franchisees to lay out a vision for future growth and area development agreements. Our franchise development team is working actively through a sizable backlog of new franchise opportunities, supported by improved digital marketing capabilities and a rigorous selection process with prospective partners. We're entering a new era of growth, but not growth for growth's sake.
Speaker #3: We believe this disciplined approach positions us well to expand thoughtfully into both existing and new markets over time, while improving average unit performance across our network.
Speaker #3: We hired a new VP of Franchise Development in August. He attended our September National Franchise Convention and engaged with well over a dozen current franchisees to lay out a vision for future growth and area development agreements.
Speaker #3: Our franchise development team is working actively through a sizable backlog of new franchise opportunities, supported by improved digital marketing capabilities and a rigorous selection process with prospective partners.
Speaker #3: We're entering a new era of growth, but not growth for growth's sake. We will be very intentional with every move we make and every franchisee partner we add.
We will be very intentional with every move we make and every franchisee partner we add. We remain focused on increasing store ownership per franchisee, which improved from 1.34 to 1.39 stores when we first cited this number. We expect our disciplined approach to area development and franchisee recruitment will drive meaningful long-term results for our network performance. Turning to our rebrand, all stores have fully transitioned to our new packaging, with legacy copper packaging phased out on 30 November. For the new store layout and designs, full remodels are scheduled to begin after 1 March, with the goal of completing the majority of remodels by October 2026, ahead of the holiday season, and virtually all stores aligned with our new brand identity within 24 months.
Speaker #3: We remain focused on increasing store ownership per franchisee, which improved from 1.34 to 1.39 stores when we first cited this number. We expect our disciplined approach to area development and franchisee recruitment will drive meaningful long-term results for our network performance.
Speaker #3: Turning to our rebrand, all stores have fully transitioned to our new packaging, with legacy copper packaging phased out on November 30. For the new store layout and designs, full remodels are scheduled to begin after March 1, with the goal of completing the majority of remodels by October 2026, ahead of the holiday season, and virtually all stores aligned with our new brand identity within 24 months.
Speaker #3: Remodels will include new exterior signage, updated interior layouts, and enhanced merchandising design to create a more consistent and engaging customer experience across all stores, whether new or remodeled.
Remodels will include new exterior signage, updated interior layouts, enhanced merchandising designed to create a more consistent and engaging customer experience across all stores, whether new or remodeled. Our newer stores in Chicago, Illinois, and Charleston, South Carolina, continue to meet our expectations. Chicago opened on 11 December and was well received in a community where we have good existing brand awareness due to our multiple locations in the metro area. Daily sales trends are encouraging. Our Charleston location opened on 3 June and has developed nicely despite it being the first Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory store in the state of South Carolina. Sales are continuing to trend higher. Our company-owned store in Corpus Christi, Texas, was remodeled in August and has since experienced consistent growth and on several occasions recognized daily sales results of over $4,000.
Speaker #3: Our newer stores in Chicago, Illinois, and Charleston, South Carolina, continue to meet our expectations. Chicago opened on December 11th and was well-received in the community, where we have good existing brand awareness due to our multiple locations in the metro area.
Speaker #3: Daily sales trends are encouraging. Our Charleston location opened on June 3 and has developed nicely, despite it being the first Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory store in the state of South Carolina.
Speaker #3: Sales are continuing to trend higher. Our company-owned store in Corpus Christi, Texas, was remodeled in August and has since experienced consistent growth and, on several occasions, recognized daily sales results of over $4,000.
Speaker #3: As a reference point, we target $2,800 per day in sales as the benchmark for a $1 million location. We've successfully experimented in both our Durango, Colorado, and Camarillo, California company stores with new merchandising strategies to improve store sell-through.
As a reference point, we target $2,800 per day in sales as the benchmark for a $1 million location. We've successfully experimented in both our Durango, Colorado, and Camarillo, California company stores with new merchandising strategies to improve store sell-through. The early results have been encouraging. As we learn more, the feedback will allow us to create a template for stores across the network as we work to deploy best practices in all locations as well as with each new store opening. Our goals continue to be increasing store sales and improving store-level profitability. We expect our average unit volume to increase again this year. We're also advancing our digital initiatives. DoorDash Storefronts are now live, a white-labeled zero-commission model that enhances unit-level economics for franchisees. Each store now maintains its own branded online presence, supported by improved social media and digital integration.
Speaker #3: The early results have been encouraging. As we learn more, the feedback will allow us to create a template for stores across the network. We are working to deploy best practices in all locations, as well as with each new store opening.
Speaker #3: Our goals continue to be increasing store sales and improving store-level profitability. We expect our average unit volume to increase again this year. We're also advancing our digital initiatives.
Speaker #3: DoorDash storefronts are now live—a white-labeled, zero-commission model that enhances unit-level economics for franchisees. Each store now maintains its own branded online presence, supported by improved social media and digital integration.
Speaker #3: We recently created a unique store website for 100% of our domestic locations. Those can be easily accessed from RMCF.com's store locator or directly through a web search.
We recently created a unique store website for 100% of our domestic locations. Those can be easily accessed from rmcf.com's store locator or directly through a web search. This development allows customers to buy online for local pickup or delivery while routing the customer to the store's own white-labeled DoorDash site. We plan to add additional customer functionality to stores' websites as we continue to develop this important revenue channel. In addition, our loyalty program remains under active development with vendor engagement underway and an expected rollout in the first half of this calendar year. Additional technology initiatives are designed to modernize the way we use technology as an enabler of our transformation. Over 120 stores are now live on our new POS system, providing significantly richer data flows than we've historically had access to, including customer transaction activity, average ticket size, basket composition, and cross-selling activity.
Speaker #3: This development allows customers to buy online for local pickup or delivery, while routing the customer to the store's own white-labeled DoorDash site. We plan to add additional customer functionality to stores' websites as we continue to develop this important revenue channel.
Speaker #3: In addition, our loyalty program remains under active development, with vendor engagement underway and an expected rollout in the first half of this calendar year.
Speaker #3: Additional technology initiatives are designed to modernize the way we use technology as enablers of our transformation. Over 120 stores are now live on our new POS system, providing significantly richer data flows than we've historically had access to, including customer transaction activity, average ticket size, basket composition, and cross-selling activity.
Speaker #3: As POS penetration increases, we expect to have increased visibility into, and a near real-time awareness of, customer behavior and store-level performance. This creates an opportunity to benefit from more informed, data-driven decisions that enhance franchisee performance over time.
As POS penetration increases, we expect to have increased visibility into and a near real-time awareness of customer behavior and store-level performance, creating opportunity to benefit from more informed, data-driven decisions that enhance franchisee performance over time. Our ERP system implementation continues to evolve as we're realizing more efficient operational execution. There's more process improvement under development that we believe will reduce production costs. While we have seen some benefit to date, we continue to refine and customize the platform to better align with our operating model and internal reporting needs. These multiple technological initiatives are strengthening how customers experience our brand and how efficient we are at the chocolate factory. They represent the next stage of our development: a consistent, elevated engagement that supports the long-term franchisee success and a memorable customer experience.
Speaker #3: Our ERP system implementation continues to evolve as we're realizing more efficient operational execution. There's more process improvement under development that we believe will reduce production costs.
Speaker #3: While we have seen some benefit to date, we continue to refine and customize the platform to better align with our operating model and internal reporting needs.
Speaker #3: These multiple technological initiatives are strengthening how customers experience our brand and how efficient we are at the chocolate factory. They represent the next stage of our development—a consistent, elevated engagement that supports long-term franchisee success and a memorable customer experience.
Speaker #3: Subsequent to quarter end, we completed a $2.7 million equity capital raise, allowing us to pay down $1.2 million of debt and retain $1.5 million in additional working capital.
Subsequent to quarter end, we completed a $2.7 million equity capital raise, allowing us to pay down $1.2 million of debt and retain $1.5 million in additional working capital. While this is not reflected in our financial statements as of 30 November, it's important to note that our strength and balance sheet provides greater flexibility for us to invest in our operations, franchise development, and technology initiatives moving forward. As we step back and look at the big picture, this quarter represents an important inflection point in our transformation. The decisions we've made over the past 18 months, including exiting low-margin revenue sources, simplifying our business strategy, focusing on growing our franchise network, resetting our cost structure, and strengthening our balance sheet, are beginning to materialize with improved gross profit and margin and a more resilient operating model.
Speaker #3: While this is not reflected in our financial statements as of November 30th, it's important to note that our strength and balance sheet provides greater flexibility for us to invest in our operations, franchise development, and technology initiatives moving forward.
Speaker #3: As we step back and look at the big picture, this quarter represents an important inflection point in our transformation. The decisions we've made over the past 18 months, including exiting low-margin revenue sources, simplifying our business strategy, focusing on growing our franchise network, resetting our cost structure, and strengthening our balance sheet, are beginning to materialize with improved gross profit and margin, and a more resilient operating model.
Speaker #3: There's still work ahead. However, we believe these actions have materially improved our positioning for sustainable long-term growth and a return to profitability. We believe we have a stronger balance sheet in place to better manage our working capital and return to positive cash flow generation over the coming quarters.
There's still work ahead. However, we believe these actions have materially improved our positioning for sustainable long-term growth and a return to profitability. We believe we have a stronger balance sheet in place to better manage our working capital and return to positive cash flow generation over the coming quarters. We continue to invest in our people as we add strategically important resources to both our team in and away from our Durango headquarters. People are our greatest asset and responsible for the ultimate realization of our long-term results. We are developing a culture of continuous improvement, which is foundational to our success. In addition to ongoing executive team professional development, we're also committed to professional development and career advancement for a larger group, our leadership team, who provide essential strategic support and execution alongside our executive team.
Speaker #3: We continue to invest in our people as we add strategically important resources to both our team in and away from our Durango headquarters. People are our greatest asset and responsible for the ultimate realization of our long-term results.
Speaker #3: We are developing a culture of continuous improvement, which is foundational to our success. In addition to ongoing executive team professional development, we're also committed to professional development and career advancement for a larger group.
Speaker #3: Our leadership team, who provide essential strategic support and execution alongside our executive team, remains focused on returning to profitability through disciplined execution supporting franchisees and scaling our network thoughtfully with the right partners as we continue to innovate and expand our premium confectionery franchise business model.
Our focus remains on returning to profitability through disciplined execution, supporting franchisees, and scaling our network thoughtfully with the right partners as we continue to innovate and expand our premium confectionery franchise business model. Thank you for your attention. I'll now turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Carrie Cass, to walk you through our fiscal Q3 financial results. Carrie?
Speaker #3: Thank you for your attention. I'll now turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Carrie Cass, to walk you through our fiscal third-quarter financial results.
Speaker #3: Carrie.
Speaker #2: Thank you, Jeff.
Carrie Cass: Thank you, Jeff. Please note that unless otherwise stated, all comparisons are on a year-over-year basis. For fiscal Q3 2026, total revenue was $7.5 million compared to $7.9 million in the prior year. Decline reflects our intentional exit from low or negative margin revenue streams as part of our margin-first strategy. Total product and retail gross profit increased to $1.4 million in Q3 fiscal 2026 compared to $0.7 million in the same quarter last year, driven by pricing actions, improved product mix, and labor efficiencies. While these gains were partially offset by short-term operational inefficiencies related to higher material costs and freight costs, we're continuing to optimize our manufacturing and cost structure and expect to maintain these margins moving forward.
Speaker #2: Please note that, unless otherwise stated, all comparisons are on a year-over-year basis. For the fiscal third quarter of '26, total revenue was $7.5 million compared to $7.9 million in the prior year.
Speaker #2: Discipline reflects our intentional exit from low or negative-margin revenue streams as part of our margin-first strategy. Total product and retail gross profit increased to $1.4 million in the third quarter of fiscal '26, compared to $0.7 million in the same quarter last year.
Speaker #2: Driven by pricing actions, improved product mix, and labor efficiencies. While these gains were partially offset by short-term operational inefficiencies related to higher material costs and freight costs, we're continuing to optimize our manufacturing and cost structure and expect to maintain these margins moving forward.
Speaker #2: Total costs and expenses improved to $7.5 million, down from $8.6 million in the same quarter last year, with savings realized across nearly all areas of operations.
Total costs and expenses improved to $7.5 million, down from $8.6 million in the same quarter last year, with savings realized across nearly all areas of operations. Net loss for the quarter was $0.2 million, or a negative $0.02 per share, compared to the net loss of $0.8 million, or a negative $0.11 per share in the prior year. EBITDA was $0.4 million in Q3 of fiscal 2026 compared to a negative $0.4 million in the same quarter last year, with improvement driven by aforementioned increases in gross profit, lower costs, and expenses. This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, back to you.
Speaker #2: Net loss for the quarter was $0.2 million, or a negative $0.02 per share, compared to a net loss of $0.8 million, or a negative $0.11 per share in the prior year.
Speaker #2: EBITDA A was $0.4 million in the third quarter of fiscal '26, compared to negative $0.4 million in the same quarter last year, with improvement driven by the aforementioned increases in gross profit, and lower costs and expenses.
Speaker #2: This concludes our prepared remarks. Operator, back to you.
Speaker #3: Ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or a comment at this time, please press star 11 on your telephone. If your question has been answered or you wish to move yourself from the queue, please press star 11 again.
Operator: Ladies and gentlemen, if you have a question or a comment at this time, please press star 11 on your telephone. If your question has been answered or you wish to move yourself from the queue, please press star 11 again. We'll pause for a moment while we compile our Q&A roster. One moment for our first question. Our first question comes from Doug Garber with Westport Capital. Your line is open.
Speaker #3: We'll pause for a moment while we compile our Q&A roster. One moment for our first question. Our first question comes from Doug Garber with Westport Alpha.
Speaker #3: Your line is open.
Speaker #4: Hi. Good morning, and congrats on the good quarter. Jeff, can you talk a little bit about the 34 new stores, the agreement there, and the pace of deployment? And what else do you have in the pipeline for other areas, and what are you targeting for store growth in the future?
Doug Garber: Hi. Good morning and congrats on the good quarter. Jeff, can you talk a little bit about the 34 new stores, the agreement there, and the pace of deployment, and what else you have in the pipeline for other areas, and what you're targeting for store growth in the future?
Speaker #5: Yeah. Good morning, and thank you, Doug. The 34 current area development agreements are across four unique franchisees; three of whom are existing franchisees, one of whom is new to the system.
Jeffrey Geygan: Yeah. Good morning and thank you, Doug. The 34 current area development agreements are across four unique franchisees, three of whom are existing franchisees, one of whom is new to the system. Our FranDev department has other prospective area development agreements in queue. We expect to add to the total over time. The rollout of these will be on a measured basis, but accelerating into the later years. All of the agreements are designed to either have stores started within three or four years and the totals completed within four or five years.
Speaker #5: Our FranDev department has other prospective area development agreements, and two we expect to add to the total over time. The rollout of these will be on a measured basis, but accelerating into the later years.
Speaker #5: All of the agreements are designed to either have stores started within three or four years, and the totals completed within four or five.
Speaker #5: years. How have you lined up the
Doug Garber: How have you lined up the financing for these stores? Do the existing owners have liquidity or debt facilities or equity lined up to execute this plan?
Speaker #4: Financing for these stores—do the existing owners have liquidity, or debt facilities, or equity lined up to execute this?
Speaker #4: plan? They do, and as
Jeffrey Geygan: They do. And as you have noted in our recent comments, we're focused on partnering with well-capitalized and financially sophisticated individuals, necessarily meaning that their need to put significant debt on to build a store is minimal.
Speaker #5: As noted in our recent comments, we're focused on partnering with well-capitalized and financially sophisticated individuals. That doesn't necessarily mean they need to put significant debt on to build a store—the need for that is minimal.
Speaker #4: Great. And on the profitability, it looks like your initiatives over the last year are starting to show in the P&L. I'm trying to understand the cocoa price impact.
Doug Garber: Great. And on the profitability, it looks like your initiatives over the last year are starting to show in the P&L. I'm trying to understand the cocoa price impact as that has come down and how much more of a margin tailwind that will be as the prices normalize from what's happened in the current market into your P&L over the next couple of quarters. How much more margin expansion do you expect?
Speaker #4: Has that come down? And how much more of a margin tailwind will that be as the prices normalize from what's happened in the current market into your P&L over the next couple of quarters?
Speaker #4: How much more margin expansion do you expect?
Speaker #5: Well, as we speak, the cocoa futures are trading at just over $5,100. Keep in mind that for many years, cocoa traded between $1,500 and $3,000 per metric ton.
Jeffrey Geygan: Well, as we speak, the cocoa futures are trading at just over $5,100. Keep in mind that for many years, cocoa traded between $1,500 to $3,000 a metric ton. In a relatively short period of time, they spiked to close to $12,000. And then for the subsequent probably 18 to 24 months, they hovered between $8,000 to $12,000. When we began initiating a strategy to lock in future pricing, we really used $8,000 as a ceiling, and we've been successful with that. Recently, we were able to lock in at closer to $5,000 for roughly 20% of our expected production this year. Bear in mind, we consume chocolate, not cocoa, but directionally, our chocolate price moves with the cocoa price.
Speaker #5: In a relatively short period of time, they spiked to close to $12,000, and then for the subsequent, probably, 18 to 24 months, they hovered between $8,000 and $12,000.
Speaker #5: When we began initiating a strategy to lock in future pricing, we really used $8,000 as a ceiling, and we've been successful with that. Recently, we were able to lock it in at closer to $5,000 for roughly 20% of our expected production this year.
Speaker #5: Bear in mind, we consume chocolate, not cocoa, but directionally, our chocolate price moves with the cocoa price. I don't think we've rendered a view publicly in terms of the potential impact, other than to say, as cocoa prices come down, they represent—chocolate represents—a substantial part of our raw material cost.
I don't think we've rendered a view publicly in terms of the potential impact other than to say, as cocoa prices come down, chocolate represents a substantial part of our raw material cost. So I think you can expect we'll have a margin tailwind here.
Speaker #5: So, I think you can expect we will have a margin tailwind here.
Speaker #4: And have you disclosed, maybe Carrie, what percent of your raw materials are chocolate or cocoa, if you're able to break it down to the actual raw...
Doug Garber: Have you disclosed, maybe, Carrie, what percent of your raw materials are chocolate or cocoa if you're able to break it down to the actual raw ingredient?
Speaker #4: ingredient? That's something we
Carrie Cass: That's something we have not disclosed.
Speaker #2: have not
Speaker #2: disclosed. Okay.
Doug Garber: Okay. Last one, Jeff. On the balance sheet, you've added equity now twice. Where are we in that journey of, call it, recapping the balance sheet since you've been the interim CEO? And where are you trying to take that in the future?
Speaker #4: Last one, Jeff, on the balance sheet—you've added equity now twice. Where are we in that journey of, call it, recapping the balance sheet since you've been the interim CEO?
Speaker #4: And where are you trying to take that in the future?
Speaker #5: Yes. Of course, all these decisions are board decisions, but we think the next leg of our capital allocation plan will be reducing debt and investing in the company.
Jeffrey Geygan: Yes. Of course, all these decisions are board decisions, but we think the next leg of our capital allocation plan will be reducing debt, investing in the company, all of which we presume will be coming from free cash flow as opposed to additional equity issuance.
Speaker #5: All of which we presume will be coming from free cash flow, as opposed to additional equity issuance.
Speaker #4: Great. Well, it's good to see all your hard work in the P&L now, so congratulations to both of you. I know you've been working very hard.
Doug Garber: Great. Well, it's good to see all your hard work in the P&L now. So congratulations to both of you. I know you've been working very hard. I'll turn it back.
Speaker #4: I'll turn it
Speaker #4: back. Yep.
Jeffrey Geygan: Yep. Thank you very much. There's more work to be done for sure, but we think directionally, this indicates that we're making progress.
Speaker #5: Thank you very much. And there's more work to be done for sure, but we think directionally this indicates that we're making progress.
Speaker #5: Progress. One moment for our next
Operator: One moment for our next question. Our next question comes from Peter Sidoti with Sidoti & Company, LLC. Your line is open.
Speaker #3: Our next question comes from Peter Sadotti with Sadotti & Company, LLC. Your line is open.
Speaker #6: Hi, good morning. Could you just talk about when you expect the accelerated franchise effort to begin affecting the top?
Peter Sidoti: Hi. Good morning. Could you just talk about when do you expect the accelerated franchise effort to begin affecting the top line?
Speaker #6: line? And I'm sorry, Peter,
Jeffrey Geygan: I'm sorry, Peter, you broke up a little bit. Would you repeat that, please?
Speaker #5: You broke up a little bit. Would you repeat that, please?
Speaker #6: When do you expect the accelerated franchising effort to begin showing up on the top line?
Peter Sidoti: When do you expect the accelerated franchising effort to begin showing up on the top line?
Speaker #5: Yeah, it's a great question. From opening to maturity, we assume a store will take roughly three years. From lease signing to store opening, that takes roughly six months.
Jeffrey Geygan: Yeah. It's a great question. From opening to maturity, we assume a store will take roughly three years. From lease signing to store opening, that takes roughly six months. The lease process takes anywhere from two to four months. So there's somewhat of a lag in terms of a store being announced to it actually being fully productive. At this point, I think we've been fairly public. We would have very little interest in supporting the opening of a store that we don't think can generate at least $1 million in annual sales at retail over three years in a three-year period. So I think you can back into any type of modeling you're doing based upon the flow of stores, knowing that it's critical for us to have new stores, not just to improve the quality of our network, but to drive long-term profitability.
Speaker #5: The lease process takes anywhere from two to four months, so there's somewhat of a lag in terms of a store being announced to it actually being fully productive.
Speaker #5: At this point—and I think we've been fairly public—we would have very little interest in supporting the opening of a store that we don't think can generate at least $1 million in annual sales at retail.
Speaker #5: Over three years, in a three-year period. So I think you can back into any type of modeling you're doing based upon the flow of stores.
Speaker #5: Knowing that it's critical for us to have new stores, not just to improve the quality of our network, but to drive long-term growth.
Speaker #5: profitability. Right.
Peter Sidoti: Right. So is it fair to say you don't expect any dramatic revenue growth in 2026 at this point and really expect the efforts to start showing up next year?
Speaker #6: So is it fair to say you don't expect any dramatic revenue growth in 2026 at this point, and really expect the efforts to start showing up next—
Speaker #6: year?
Speaker #5: If you're talking exclusively
Jeffrey Geygan: If you're talking exclusively about additional revenue growth from new stores, I would say yes. But we have a network of 140 stores where there is substantial opportunity for us to have more chocolate factory product being represented and sold through those stores. So we're hyper-focused on local store mix and increasing same-store sales. In addition, we do have an e-commerce channel, and we also have specialty markets, and intend to try to penetrate that further, with the caveat being only where we make an appropriate margin.
Speaker #5: About additional revenue growth from new stores, I would say yes. But we have a network of 140 stores where there is substantial opportunity for us to have more Chocolate Factory product being represented and sold through those stores.
Speaker #5: So we're hyper-focused on local or store mix and increasing same-store sales. In addition, we do have an e-commerce channel, and we also have specialty markets and intend to try to penetrate that further, with the caveat being only where we make an appropriate—
Speaker #5: margin. Okay.
Peter Sidoti: Okay. You've been there for a while and really have done an excellent job. What's the biggest obstacles you now feel that you're facing when looking at growing the business? Is it financial? Is it market? Is it just people?
Speaker #6: And you've been there for a while, and really have done an excellent job. What's the biggest obstacle you now feel that you're facing when looking at growing the business?
Speaker #6: Is it financial? Is it market? Is it just—
Speaker #6: people? Execution.
Jeffrey Geygan: Execution. We need to do a better job at executing profitably. As I cited in our call here, we think there's still more cost to come out, but this isn't a cost-saving story. This is a top-line story. So we have to be able to execute efficiently, but we need to grow our top line, and that's going to come primarily through our franchise system, principally from our existing franchise base, supplementally from the new stores.
Speaker #5: We need to do a better job at executing profitably. As I cited in our call here, we think there's still more cost to come out, but this isn't a cost-saving story.
Speaker #5: This is a top-line story. So we have to be able to execute efficiently. But we need to grow our top line, and that's going to come primarily through our franchise system—principally from our existing franchise base, supplementally from the new.
Speaker #5: stores. Okay.
Peter Sidoti: Okay. Thank you very much. Congratulations on the financing. It was spectacular in terms of what you accomplished. Thank you.
Speaker #6: Thank you very much. And congratulations on the financing. It was spectacular in terms of what you accomplished. So, thank you.
Speaker #5: Thanks, Peter. I appreciate that.
Jeffrey Geygan: Thanks, Peter. I appreciate that.
Speaker #3: And I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Jeff and Carrie to see if you have any closing remarks.
Operator: I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to Jeff and Carrie to see if you have any closing remarks.
Speaker #5: Thank you, operator. That’s all we have for you today. Appreciate your dialing in. Look forward to updating you in the next three.
Jeffrey Geygan: Thank you, Operator. That's all we have for you today. Appreciate your dialing in. Look forward to updating you in the next three months.
Speaker #5: months. Thank you, ladies and
Operator: Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This does conclude today's presentation. You may now disconnect and have a wonderful day.
